30 Mistakes Made By Designers And Architects Who Didn’t Think Of The Person Who’d Be Using Their Designs
When it comes to designing things for city living, whether it’s the infrastructure or even little details—like park benches or public washrooms, you expect they will be made with people in mind. But it turns out that’s often far from the case.
Recently, Sahra Sulaiman, the communities editor for Streetsblog L.A., shared an illuminating thread about soap dispensers in LAX bathrooms. “The worker struggling to refill soaps in the LAX bathroom said she just wished architects and designers consulted with the workers that had to maintain the spaces about whether their form would actually be functional,” she wrote in a tweet amassing 126k likes.
Soon it became clear that Sahra is not the only one frustrated by how nonfunctionally public spaces are sometimes designed. More people joined the thread to share their own observations and experiences, so dear designers and architects, please take notes!
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Oh yeah the neverending ponytail and bun struggle is real... my SO always tells me I look like the Bendneck Lady when I drive lol
Urban design is concerned with the arrangement, appearance and function of our suburbs, towns and cities. It is both a process and an outcome of creating localities in which people live, engage with each other, and engage with the physical place around them in the modern world.
According to the United Nations (U.N.), 68% of the world’s population will live in urban areas by 2050, compared with 2% at the beginning of the 19th century, 30% in 1950 and 55% in 2018. The current urbanization is represented in hard-to-believe figures. The world’s largest city, Tokyo, which had a population of roughly 37 million in 2020, is expected to be overtaken in 2028 by New Delhi, the capital of India.
Also, in Japan, bathrooms have a sort of ledge where you can place your stuff while using the urinals. There are also hooks to hang your umbrella or bags.
Because that would be using common sense! Apparently this too is a waning commodity!
But you don’t have to look at metropolises to realize how much and how fast our environment is changing. Pick just about any city, the one that you live in right now, and it will seem both familiar and new at the same time. So today designers and urban planners face incredible challenges—to make sure the public spaces, infrastructure, and resources cater to the people who live there.
There are many ways to approach urban development that promote healthy living and longevity through a variety of design practices. Areas called “Blue Zones” are one of them. Dan Buettner, the author of the concept who wrote about for National Geographic, found that these communities had lower incidents of cancer and heart disease, fewer cases of dementia and Alzheimer’s disease, a higher percentage of the population in their 90s and 100s, and were generally happier.
In general things are designed with the worst way for handicap people. Urban architects and engineers should live a month in a wheelchair or with a stroller before they do things. For example the metro at my parents city is """adapted""" for us, they put a beautiful sticker and cheered of how amazing they are. The metros are taller than the platforms and it leaves a small step. Small enough that a walking person wont notice but bit enough that my disabilities scotter cannot get there...
BP taught me that those gaps in the stalls i an American thing. Sooo happy we dont have those
According to Joe Pobiner, Planning and Urban Design expert and advisor, urban design that follows the concept of Blue Zones includes: walkable environments to reduce the need for cars; increased vertical density and mixed-use diversity to encourage walking; a mix of housing options to encourage a multi-generational population; a mix of development types beyond residential and office spaces; local gathering places, parks, and plazas; locally owned farm-to-table restaurants; community gardens and rooftop gardens, and so on.
Yeah, we got a new delivery ramp years back, so we do not need to use the public entrance anymore. Turns out we use the public entrance since them anyways, because the ramp is highly unsafe and horrible to work with. The architect is still mad at us, he think, it was a great idea.
Pobiner argues that today, walkability and access to green spaces are top selling points. “Buyers want neighborhoods that offer new architecture, land uses, and technology—areas that create 'intelligent' density conducive to walking and biking, and that are less costly and more sustainable,” he explains.
my bf who is a chef also hates sinks that are to small for a very large pot and/or too far away from the stove so that you have to carry the big, full and therefor heavy pot to the stove. it's something he hates in his professional kitchen and in our ymall privat one LOL
That's when you need one of those "pot filler" taps above the stove! I think those are the best idea since ever.
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Arrgh, open storage shelves so we can "see the pretty dishes". Yeah so dust and crap can collect on the things I cook with, or even better, so light and heat can shorten the storage life of all the food I'm storing.
I just don't get why people think the open shelves are desirable! If I want to see the "pretty dishes", I'd put glass doors on the cabinets!
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I would like to reserve a special place in hell for the designers that put low backs on tall drawers in the kitchen, so things are constantly falling off the back.
I think the purpouse is so they are easy to install but yea screw tht
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My pet peeve is when designers ruin islands by placing stoves or sinks in the middle. That could be fine with a massive island, but the common 2m long island is wasted this way. You had a nice, big bench space and now it's ruined. Also, pantry cabinets that are just deep boxes. You just lose stuff in there. If you only have space for a counter-depth pantry, you need to get clever with pullouts and door storage. Otherwise, stuff is going to languish at the back and you're going to struggle to find things. Also, lower cabinets should just have pullouts. In some cases, a big drawer would be way better, like for cookware storage.
We had a pantry cabinet in our old house that was a dream - it had slide out trays that were wonderful for finding stuff in the back! I wish I could have moved it to our new house!
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I detest the built-in cabinet where our refrigerator goes - it limits the size of the refrigerator we can have, plus the cabinets on top are useless for anyone under 6' tall.
This. Even with a stepstool, it's a long reach over the depth of the fridge.
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My pet peeve with kitchens are the upper cabinets. Why are they always designed that you have to be over 1,80 to reach the top shelf? I'm 1,65 and I need a step in my kitchen to rech items in the back of the second shelf. I watched a lot of house tours on YT over last few months and when I see 3m high ceilings with uppers up to the ceiling and 5 shelves, I always ask myself where they store the library ladder to reach anything in those.
Thats when you only put seasonal items there that only need to be taken out once a year and then returned so you can bring in and out the big step ladder only when prepping for the holiday.
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Also, why aren’t decent-sized garbage can storage/space and a dedicated space for dish towels/paper towels not standard inclusions?
Actually if you look in older homes alot of them gave paper towel holders near the sink or in the kitchen somewhere attached under a cabinet or on the wall
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“Food should never be washed in the same sink as dishes.” Gtfo actually you might be a moron.
In a lot of places this is a code regulation for any commercial use. The church I attend has had to turn down several people who wanted to rent the kitchen for their small businesses because we can't afford to bring it up to code, and one of the major issues is that there's only a dishwashing sink and a handwashing sink - we'd have to install a third for food prep to meet requirements.
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Trendy Wood counter tops around sinks. There is a reason stainless steel has been standard for years. Open shelves are unsanitary if one lives where there are fruit flies and dust....
Daughter of a chef here, hobby cook and cook book author. I designed my own kitchen last year, had to take some restrictions into consideration: Placement of water, plumbing, electrical outlets could not be changed (I rent), and there is a low "shelf" running along the wall that has all those outlets, 6 inches high and 3 1/2 deep - it hides the heater pipes which run along the wall. So now my fridge/freezer combo sits against the opposite wall, and the kitchen has extra high legs, which makes the counter top a bit higher than normal. The oven is at chest height for easier access. I have as much counter space as 14 ft of total kitchen length (bookended on one side by the cupboard that holds the oven, on the other by a somewhat narrower one for cleaning supplies) can give me, around 10 1/2 ft. That is only interrupted by the stove - induction, so its flat - and the 1 1/2 sink. I made certain I have plenty of drawers and pullouts for everything!
I wish the people who had designed my kitchen took into consideration of pregnant women. My sink has about 6 inches of counter before the sink, and then the sink is set way back. They also did not put a dishwasher in the home, so I have this dinky sink. I have to do the dishes by hand still and being pregnant and doing them actually can get painful having to contort my body/ stance just to be able to reach appropriately.
Me and my T-Rex arms would be noping right out of that living hell. Congrats on the little one.
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Um... You can still do this without a third sink. Just go from wash sink to sanitizer sink to dish drain and then use your spray hose to rinse the dishes that are in the drain... Or go from wash sink to sanitiser sink and then when all the dishes are in the sanitizing sink, drain the wash sink and then use it to rinse your dishes. You don't have to have three sinks, you just need a little sense and some problem solving abilities.
I think one sink is fine as long as you clean between tasks lol plus dont alot of ppl now have dishwashers lol
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I read the kitchen design scheme is changing to accommodate home office, pets, and more of a cooking/eating area ...everything the result of people working from home.
I think putting an office in the kitchen is a major mistake. It's a kitchen. Besides always being in a bit of a mess, except maybe those few moments after a scrubdown, it's a working space full of sharp objects and substances at high temperatures.
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Stove should be in the middle of any kitchen worktops. On one side clean prep area, on other sink.
Also, stored items should be close to the things they're used for (coffee supplies near the coffee pot, cooking utensils near the stove, glasses/cups near the refrigerator) whenever possible.
DRAWERS! Every cupboard on the lower half of the kitchen should consist of DRAWERS. Deep ones for pots, pans, small appliances, etc.; shallow ones for flatware, utensils (except the potato masher, of course); medium-depth for flour, some other food items, and everything else. NO ONE wants to stand on their head and try to reach for something in the back of a lower cupboard -- especially if they have to move everything in front of it, take out what they need, then put everything back again before they can close the cupboard and start working. DRAWERS!
OMG, you are so right. I've had them in a kitchen I helped design and they make so much sense. Pull the drawer out and see everything.
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i have a trolley that i wheel from fridge or pantry to where i sit and prep/cook as i am disabled. it makes so much difference to my ability to do anything in my kitchen.
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I hate the double sinks typically found in American kitchens. How on Earth do you wash a baking sheet when you can't fit it in the sink? Also, storage should be designed so you can store the cookware near the range, the glasses near the fridge, etc. Not just random cabinets that fit the space.
A fridge should never have a solid wall next to either side of it. I can't tell you how many times I've seen this and heard of it and then all the complaints about it. You CANNOT open a side x side door all the way if there is a wall next to it.
Oohh heres one that most people dont think off. Comductive heat. When u cook often times your stove produces a lot of excess heat. So your cabinets need to have ventilation in them so that the heat can escape. Otherwise the heat could potentially destroy certain things in your kitchen like spices, salt... Etc...
Omg mabey thts what the gaps in the backs of drawrs are for indtead of being black holes for stuff
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I'd just like to add, who the f@ck invented the stove that turns itself off when it reaches a certain temperature?! Just moved into a place that has one of these. To that dipsh$t: NO ONE WHO IS COOKING WANTS THE STOVE TO STOP WORKING AT RANDOM INTERVALS. You frickin moron.
Sounds like your stoves thermostat is goofed hard or something
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Prep sink and prep counter missing is a huge design flaw, as far as I'm concerned. Its difficult washing/prepping food in the same sink thats full of dishes because the counter on one side is tiny and already full of dishes used that same day while the other is basically the 'butlers pantry' with all the kitchen utensils (blender, crockpot, heavy kitchenaid, etc., etc.)
For me and my mom (probably many others) it's the frigging hight of the counter, sink, stove... At 5'3" it's really hard t work
My oven has the switches and timer right above the opening of the door, where the hot air vents. So when you need to take something out and do something to it then put it back in or take one thing out and replace with another the buttons are too hot to comfortably use.
My microwave is right above the stove but the handle will get really hot if we are boiling food
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I've designed and built kitchen cabinets for 30 years and the problem is the contractors and home owners. I make almost zero decisions in the design they place where the pipes are for the sink and electric/gas for the stove and tell me how high the uppers go, if they want rollouts in the base or selves. Just finished a set with the sink in the island it was homeowners decision.
Cupboards that you have to sit on the floor to go through, no place to put a garbage can
My Mom and Dad redid their kitchen in their ranch-style house in Napa, California. Totally non-carpenter type people, just old enough to know what was needed for a kitchen. Dad made a spot for the microwave with dedicated cabinets above and below to hold the microwave containers. Mom decided since she canned and gardened and loved to cook that she wanted 3 kitchen sinks. A big stainless steel double sink in the main prep area and across the room a long deep single sink. I have wished hundreds of times that I had a 3rd sink in my home!
Yes! And make the pantry big enough! Also, slide out bottom cabinet shelves. Keep top cabinets so a woman can reach up and not fall or drop something. And personally, I use a lot of dry spices, so I would like a big built in spice cabinet that I can see all my spices, yet can close the doors when not in use.
Another kitchen design flaw. A friend's house had open design with a bar-type spot. The only problem was that less than 6 inches away were the burners of a GAS stove. You had to be careful of napkins, hands, and such so as NOT to get burned.
Putting enough prep space by the stove as opposed to the other side of the sink would be great, too. I end up with a little tiny space in which to actually prepare food because I'm not moving everything from the far side of the counter to the stove when I need to quickly or steadily add things to a pan or pot or the oven.
Kitchen should be more of a hallway than a room. With counter on 1 side and appliances and sink on the other. With only enough space between for a step or 2 between the counter and stove top. Should be plenty of storage. Also give me a counter that doesn't easily stain and floor that isn't slippery.
I have 1 single basin large apron front sink with a grate on the bottom. I do all dishes in a plastic basin within the sink, basin goes under the sink when not in use.Works quite well.
Also, make sure the HVAC vent in the kitchen doesn't direct air straight to the top of the range, or at least can be adjusted not to. This goes triple if it's a gas range! (Our current rental house has this problem. To cook something at a constant temp for an extended time, like a low boil or simmer, I have to either adjust the burner every time the heat/air goes on or off, or just shut off the system completely.)
Thts a serious fire hazard i would be making some complaints lol
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I have a micro-kitchen in my apartment and it sucks. A 'panty' so deep I can't reach back. Cabinets over the stove with all sorts of pipes and venting so they can't be used. I won't complain about the higher cabinets because I'm so short, but the usable cabinets are higher than they need to be. And the sink is sooo tiny. I'll stop here rather than going into more detail.
My peeve is cupboards over the stove & fridge that l cannot reach & therefore can't use. No, l don't want to get a stepstool or chair 4 or 5 times everytime l cook. Also short cupboards that won't handle syrup or olive oil bottes
When we bought our current home I hated the kitchen and told my husband start saving honey because we will be getting a new kitchen before updating anything else. It's a huge empty space. There is a small row of cabinets on either side with plenty of room for an island but no island and the shallowest sink I have ever seen. Turn on the tap even the slightest to wash your hands and there is water all over the cabinets and onto the floor. The entire kitchen is the perfect example of the opposite of functionality. When I'm cooking big meals I'm running lapse from one side of the kitchen to get water,put something on the stove and zero counter space or storage.
My pet peeve is a cook top or stove with no exhaust. It's more common than one would think.
Bleach should never be used in a kitchen it can taint the food, steam is the best steriliser
One last thing, make the distance from countertops to bottom of cabinet, high enough so you can slide your blender beneath it, still having it on the counter.
is this for a place like a restaurant or a person's house? Because I'm sure most people's kitchens at home are not that fancy.
Twice I have lived in apartments that had zero drawers in the kitchen. Horrible!
A home kitchen with two separate sinks is a rarety and only for the large houses of the wealthy. The rest of us can cleanse a sink between different uses.
i completely disagree with the fourth image. dishes don't need to be "sanitized", just washed, and there's zero reason why food can't be done in the same place. hot water and soap does the job just fine, there's no need to use bleach on everything.
Something I've rarely seen in Ireland or Spain is a kitchen with a view, especially from the sink - my mum used to complain bitterly that kitchens are always at the back of the house so you never see what's going on! Also, in Spain, you're lucky if you get more than about 50cm of working space, no matter what size your kitchen is, and the sockets are always in the wrong place.
my rented house has two lights in the kitchen one that takes these weird £35 u shaped light bulbs that you can only buy from the people i rent from , no s**t 35 for a LIGHT BULB so needless to say i only have one working light and its at the opposite end of the kitchen to my cooker , not great in the winter , ohh and this was a new build house
I went and bought those storage cube things for the one side of the kitchen counter (where you could put stools) for all the small appliances (mixer, blender, rice cooker, crock pot, food saver, food processor...)
Storage 100%. I just don't own appliances because the most important thing to me is to have a clear counter top. I don't have a lot of counter space and I refuse to own a toaster or microwave because I just can't sacrifice that much room and I can reheat food and toast bread with my stove/oven. If I had more storage I might consider having some more kitchen items but I am bare bones. If it only has one use, it does not come in my kitchen.
Bruh.. just get a little shelf for a microwave to sit on...
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Triple bay sinks are great but in order to accommodate roasting pans, stock pots, sheet trays, they are going to be huge. Most homes don’t have the room for something like this. Soap doesn’t kill bacteria but it does remove a lot of it reducing the risk of getting sick. Using sanitizing solution bath is ideal though I don’t do it personally. Bleach solution seems to be the most recommended method for the home. We used to use iodine solution to sanitize pots and pan in the restaurants and the culinary school I went to.
This. Pretty sure the kitchen in the house I rented for a temp job was designed by a six-foot-tall man who did not cook or clean. Storage was all near the ceiling or in awkward spots, tiny food pantry, sink was in exactly the right spot to leave not enough useable counter on either side, over-range microwave was too high to reach inside for cleaning, giant useless expanse of white linoleum over most of the kitchen that served no purpose except collecting mud that had to be mopped up. A small island with a countertop and a bit of storage would have improved the function of the space immensely.
How about NOT putting the switch for the garbage disposal so far back into the corner that I need a step stool and a long-handled wooden spoon to turn it on? Who made this? Someone who used to work for the NBA? I'm 5'2" tall!
Bought newly constructed home in 2017. My dinner plates do not fit in my cabinets, apparently these are meant for smaller spaces. Problem is, plates are plates, regardless of space. They just aren’t deep enough. Granite countertops and island, but kitchen sink is the kind of stainless steel that permanently stained after putting one glass in the sink wet. . My “pantry” cabinet has doors installed so that I have to leave kitchen to open them. That is just the kitchen…
The most functional kitchen I've found is in Finland. Google "kuivauskaappi keittiö" and you'll likely wonder why it's not universal yet
I plan to make my own kitchen. I added details like sink under the desk and small railing around the desk, so I can properly scrub the whole desk and then flush it with water and just brush the grime into the sink and have it all clean again. Also I want a big sink, so if I need to wash a big pot I can. And I want a holder for a cookbook. And I want the desk heat resistant, so I can put anything there. You know, take something from oven and just put it on the desk. Or pan right from stove. And the desk will have measurements imprinted, so when I need specific size of dough, I can just cut it on the desk. For this I was inspired by cutting mat used for fabric.
What? My kitchen is flawless! Large space, lot's of storage (like I have partially empty cabinets that's how much), and then also the sink for washibg dishes is big enough for my wok to fit in almost with the handle. Idk why you need a 3rd sink but I have 1 and its more than enough. Btw I'm a chef
...and enough counter space. My appartment has a "kitchenette", you can brew a cup of tea and heat a pizza, but that is about it. There is just enough counterspace to roll out a pizza, but not even enough to also fit a choppingboard for to prepare the toppings to put on it. I made a seperate table in order to have at least a little more room needed for more advanced cooking. and there is not room to have both a stack of dirty and a stack of clean dishes, so doing the dishes is tricky. The stove is placed right next to the refridgerator, which means that the light switch on the exhaust hood can just be reached by two figers by putting them in a narrow gap, making it really hard to turn (thank God I have long and narrow fingers).
Home kitchens should have a separate hand washing sink which can double as a pet food bowl washing sink. What removing shoes is to feet handwashing is to hands. You want to get the outside world's germs off your busy parts.
I feel terrible for my husband; he's 5'4", and in most home kitchens he can't reach any of the top storage. He's a professional chef, too; he constantly has to ask his underlings or other chefs to hand him stuff stored above in storage. It bothers me so much; I hate seeing him struggle doing something he loves!
The house I live in at the moment is long and skinny. From front to back is, main bedroom with a massive picture window designed to display your bedroom activities, the ensuite with no door between the shower and the WIR, a 2nd bedroom, a tiny hallway to main bathroom (no tub - just a coffin sized triangle shower cubicle), with laundry in a cupboard (good idea), a 3rd bedroom, then the kitchen/ dining/ lounge in one room. Complete with the linen cupboard IN the kitchen area. All kitchen power points are either 15-20cm away from water or the stove top. This is all linked with a hallway so skinny that I need to walk sideways to bring in the groceries. It's also an excellent echo chamber for those zoom calls. At least I have awesome insulation.
Thats great and all but most people don't have enough money to fix it.
How about the cabinets that won't open unless another door is open or closed, oven doors and dishwasher doors that are a hazard to anyone standing nearby, The top space above cabinets being closed off for 'looks' when the space could easily be used for those bits of cookware that you only use once or twice a year.
A good kitchen needs to have everything in a logical order either clockwise or anti clockwise. Fridge > food prep surface > hob > surface for the dirty pots etc waiting for washing > the sink > drainer> cups and plates storage.
Are you talking about industrial kitchens? Because in mine there is not space for a second sink, so the third would have to go on the neighbours living room...😉
Worked in a kitchen where the idiots who laid the new floors thought it was a good idea to cover all but the sink drains in the cooking area.. and when they put in the self-cleaning oven they set the drain above floor level and put the grate cover in backwards..
Storage, yes please! Me and my bf live in a two-year old house and we literally had to design the storage room ourselves, with shelves up to the ceiling. There just was nothing there. The kitchen originally only had a small shelve where, as the architect/kitchen store thought, you could put a nice little plant and one bowl. We chose the option of an actual closet ont wall with 4 shelves and still don’t have enough storage room.
The new kitchen in my council flat had 2 drawers and corner cupboards that couldn't be used once the cooker and washing machine were in the spaces provided for them. The kitchen in the last flat had a space left for the cooker to slide in, but the worktop went over it. The space for anothe appliance meant that the door to a big storage cupboard was permanently open or permanently closed (I removed the door). I had to reach across the exposed heating pipes to reach the light switch.
Omg rich people. Just clean the inside of your sink before you put your fruits and veg in.
And the silly faucet on the wall behind the stove to fill the pot. When the pot is full of hot water you have to carry it over to the sink to empty it. Why not a deep sink close for emptying.
My pet peeves: The right side of my stove is against a wall. This makes it hard to use the right burners. The pans end up against the tiles on the wall and makes for disgusting clean up. Also, I have a storage closet that is over a set of steps. It's always a treat to get anything out of it and pray nothing topples down the steps. A special place in hell should be observed for whoever designed this kitchen. And where the hell is the place to store the trash and dirty tags.
And a pot-filler! A faucet over the stove that folds away so that you can fill your pot with water right on the stove - absolute genius idea I recently saw. And those open drawers that pull out, that have electrical outlets built in. For appliances that you often use, but don’t have space for on the counter.
A person's perfectly designed remodeled kitchen : Should start with a lengthy conversation. How many cooks ? What type of storage is important. Do you use large pots, small appliance area neefed? How many drawers do you have now? Spice storage? Recycle and trash pullout bins ,concealed or not? The pros & cons of different styles and sizes of sinks , plus appliances types. Take into consideration the cook's -baker's height. Special display area needed ? Make sure they know the up keep of different countertop materials. People will see and want things they don't have. But when they find out the maintenance they may decide thats not for them. Some designers may suggest a pet food etc area, if the area is large enough too devote to that.
Kitchen Priestess, by your definition of a great kitchen, it seems like you're obsessive compulsive about cleaning and organizing, more than someone who cooks. I see nothing in your explanation which would lead me to believe your a better cook them someone who at least knows to set up a triangle. Im sure I would trust that your food is prepared clean, maybe even Kosher, but plenty of awesome cooks would never bother with your perfectly organized paper towels etc.
Not everybody is a chef and not everybody needs a chefs kitchen. Not to mention that not everybody has a budget or space for chefs kitchen. A lot of people have different preferences when it comes to cooking. One person loves ans extra sink while they other would rather have extra counter space. One person will praise sink in an island and the other will despise it. It's not designers negligence it's your idea that everybody should share your preferences.
HVAC heater floor vent under the cabinet that holds the pull out trash and recycle bins. Hot air carries the smell of the rubbish. just a few feet over the vent could have kept my toes warm while I was in front of the sink doing dishes.
I actually like my small kitchen because I have counter space next to the stove, and am very close to the sink, in case I need it. But my fridge is in the dining room, and the cabinets were attached TO THE ROOF, so I can only reach the bottom shelf without a stepping stool, there's no room to store a stepping stool, there's no pantry, so we had to put a shelf in the dining room for all food. I have to pace back and forth to make anything. Kitchen only holds plates, pots and spices.
What about a double stainless steel sink - one to wash and one to sanitize and rinse!
In my opinion the problem with those double sinks, is that they are almost always too small. I cant fit a big cookie sheet, or roasting pan IN my sink to wash it. Instead I end up balancing it ON the little ledge between the two sides while I try to scrub, and usually end up with water all over me and the floor.
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You can't hang it on the hook at the top of the door if it has one - it can be reached by a determined thief. And who wants to put it on the floor
I had to get a glob of soap on my hands and let a little girl swipe it off because the soap dispensers were impossible for her to reach. This was at a ski resort, with ski schools and everything. Main lodge at the bottom of the mountain
Yeah, place where I used to work had floor to ceiling glass walls on conference rooms. Then they had to add curtains because you know, sometimes you might be sharing something you can't announce to the whole company. Also it is a distraction when you are in a meeting in a glass cube and you see people outside the cube passing by.
And how about designing parking lots in northern climates that snow plows can actually maneuver around
I have repeatedly seen paper towel dispensers that you grab the towel to pull some out, but the damn thing is set so tight all you get is a very small handful of paper. Bloody useless.
At a school I taught in they put the drains in the center but sloped the floors UPWARDS towards the drains. So nothing would run in the drain unless the entire room was flooded with 1.5 inches of liquid. Our poor janitor was always fighting with the bathrooms and especially the ones for the little kids with bad aim. He'd have to hose the floor down and then sweep the pissy water towards the drains for a half hour to attempt to clean things.
The art department at my college was connected to the architecture building, and they were the ugliest buildings on campus. The bathrooms were small and dark, the lighting was horrible throughout, the elevator would frequently stop a few inches above the floor and was slow as hell, which meant that more often than not, you were hauling projects and art supplies up a narrow flight of stairs. 😑
Also dishwashers! It's bad enough having to bend down to load one (really, can't the top be higher than the bench without causing armageddon?) but when you have to twist as well to reach the place where dirty dishes are stored before going in then that's just beyond irritating. Also, if I can't walk past it when the door is open I am not happy.
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I'll add to this - architects who design hospitals. It's all lovely having double/triple-height ceilings to create the feel of light and space, but try cleaning up there! Skylight windows also get full of cobwebs our cleaning teams struggle to reach without injuring themselves. Architectural features with little dust-collecting ledges are also a pain. We wish they would think about how their designs might make cleaning difficult and therefore not help us control infection so well.
100% agree with that, have seen some really great hospital designs (for example one where the linoleum in corridors curved up and ended up flush with the wall surface, so there were no skirting ledges to gather dust or corners that couldn't be mopped). Then when they built a new local hospital near me, standard hallways and rooms, then a central atrium which everything looked over with glass lifts and windowsills at every window. Result was it was impossible to keep clean, soon every room has a view of a sill with dust and detritus on it, and the top of the lifts are filthy and can be seen from inside, as well as all the windows above.
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Like I said in another comment. I hate how badly designed things are if you are handicapped. Urban architects and engineers should live a month in a wheelchair or with a stroller before they do things. For example the metro at my parents city is """adapted""" for us, they put a beautiful disabled sticker and cheered of how amazing they are. The metros are taller than the platforms and it leaves a small step. Small enough that a walking person wont notice but bit enough that my disabilities scotter cannot get there... The apartment where my grandma lives got their entrance renovated a few years ago to add a ramp to the elevator. They spent a fortune making it fancy. But to get to the ramp you need to go up two steps. My gran goes on a wheelchair and cannot get out of her appartment without help...
I absolutely agree. Chair user here. Things might be "ADA compliant" but the designers who decided on minimum standards weren't doing us any favors. I've got more scrapes on my knuckles from rooms what were supposedly wheelchair friendly but were too narrow to move in. Take our town hall - the handicap ramp is located down the block and it's closed off by a chained and locked gate which nobody knows where the key is. However, handicap parking is in front, so you have to roll down the block to come back up (if they have the key). I tried to go to a town meeting to complain and couldn't even get in because of the stairs. Their response - "we put the parking close, that's good enough." WTF?!
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Once a public restroom I was using regularly was vandalized in the most useful way possible: Someone brought a large nail and drove it into the door on the inside. He was heavily fined for it and banned from the presmises, but of course they let the nail in place, as it was the perfect height to hang coats, as none of the original planners had thought of adding a clothing hook. Of course, this was a european style toilet, with an actual door and no gap...
We got a huge grant and built this massive building on campus. They got all fancy with the building design and it is pretty much 100% glass, in Florida, in the sun. Half of the building is always boiling while the other half is freezing because the sun bakes the side with the sun and the AC is on full blast non-stop. They tested the temps and some people will be in their 89 degree office while the other side of the building has people working in 50 degree weather. That and the glass stair case and walk ways that you could see up someone's skirt when standing on the ground floor. Millions of dollars for the worst building on campus to work in.
I do agree with all the complaints. However, I am that much more grateful for the way my work is designed. I work at a bar and grill that is well established. About 6-7 years ago, a man who owns and operates a successful construction company had bought the establishment. He then renovated the kitchen and had us cooks basically design it when expanding it. He is always listening to our ideas and makes changes when he sees that it will increase productivity. Awesome guy and great to work for.
Imo architects in general don't give a flying f*** about the people who will have to use what they built.
Don't design contracts require the architect to personally demonstrate the functionality and useability of their designs? I mean, if I was in the army and got someone to design and build a new gun, I'd want them to demonstrate that it actually works, that it can be used in the field, that it can be maintained and repaired, etc.
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How about the architects who design a home with 20x30 bedrooms expecting people to fill them with 7 a foot tall armoire, and 8 foot long dresser, but make the stairway turn after 5 steps and then end in a wall at the top of the stairs? It's great to have the space upstairs, but you have to think about how the furniture will get there.
As an architect, a lot of the issues here are not the architect's fault. In America, ADA requirements tie our hands so much in public buildings. You go have no idea the headache it can be to ensure your building is in complete compliance. Further, it is very rare that we ever get the freedom to design what we want. In the end, all we do is design what our clients want. We can't just add things as we would like. We can make suggestions, but the client will almost always prefer the bare minimum needed. We have no say in adding hooks, shelves, etc. It is not our money.
As someone in a wheelchair ADA requirements aren't even good enough. They're bare minimum and rarely actually useful for a chair user. I do understand what you mean about bare minimum - worked a construction company first job of of college and whenever we did bathrooms they'd want minimum cost. No hooks and useless smallest size sinks that get cramped once you add the paper towel dispenser and soap dispenser.
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The hospital I worked in had carpet in the hallways for YEARS. MRSA, C- diff, all SORTS of lovely stuff hitching a ride on your shoes back home with you...
Kitchens where the stove is right next to a doorway (person coming around the corner can knock a pan off the stove or spill something), or too close to a window (a curtain in my friend's kitchen caught fire).
At my work they took away our break room to turn it into a large handicapped accessible bathroom complete with an adult changing table. Which, ok, good having that if needed. But the grab bars next to the toilet are only on one side and awkward to use. And the sink faucet and soap dispenser cannot be reached by anyone in a wheelchair. Right next to this is the older bathroom that does have a lower sink (but still unreachable soap dispensers). Also has a super heavy door which won’t stay open enough for a person in a wheelchair or even crutches to easily use, while the new bathroom at least has an push button automatic door. So between the two, there’s perhaps one functional accessible bathroom.
I work in CAD'ing industrial equipment. I'm not that experienced in the field yet, but learned a lot the previous year, and continue to currently, too. But, that aside, I always ask myself if there is some nice detail that could be included that maybe doesn't change much, but makes the people operating the equipment happy ... so that they tell the people who decide to buy equpmen from us that some little detail, now, ain't pesty no more, but has gotten quite enjoyable. But then again - do the deciders listen to the users? I don't know ... that end, I have limited means. Plus, I genuinely think that we, who develop these things in detail, should keep an eye on how comfortable operating a set of machinery is to those doing that 40 hours a week, just as we expect our software, desk, chair and stuff to work flawlessly and user friendly. We're all obligated to make sure that downstream of us no one has a reason to complain, just as we don't want to have one either.
Makes me remember one public toilets. Everything looked well designed, until you washed your hands. Sinks were tiny and so shallow, you couldn't fit you hands comfortably under faucet. You inevitably ended splashing water all over youself, mirror, everywhere.
I went to one recently like that, and the tap was angled half out of the basin too.
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During my travels I often stayed at hostels that had small shower rooms with no hooks to hang your clothing, no shelf to place your toiletries bag, and nothing to sit on while putting on your shoes and socks. You had to try to hang your clothes and towel from the doorknob, from which they inevitably feel into the wet, dirty floor, and had to try and balance your bag on the edge of the sink or atop the soap dispenser or light fixture, from which they also fell. It was painfully obvious that the people who designed those rooms and the hostel's staff had never actually used a public shower room. How hard would it be to add a few hooks, a small shelf near the sink, and a plastic stool or bench?
@david Roberts I'm so grateful to read this because I was just thinking about how I stayed at a super fancy hotel for work, $400 a night -- lookin' at you, W Hotel in Scottsdale! -- AND MY ROOM HAD NO TOWEL HOOKS OR BARS. And, the glass shower door was literally 8 or 9 feet tall so I couldn't even toss my towel over the door. They also had no plugs next to the bed, which was in the middle of the room. 🤔
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Why do people think only of disabled legs when they "design for disability"? I have disabled hands. Round doorknobs, heavy doors you have to pull instead of them being "pushable" both ways, light switches that are small and around corners, all contribute to a person with disabled hands having to constantly beg others for help. And if your legs aren't disabled, people don't even think about offering help to someone whose hands are disabled, because hand disability is far less visible than leg disability.
I’ll never understand the concept behind my grandparents home: five bedrooms..and ONE bathroom
I used to work at a mall that had sensors for turning the taps on in the bathroom, no manual way to activate it. The sinks required both hands in front of the sensor to activate. Never once did they think that some people dont have two hands or one is temporarly unavailable, ej,bandaged or in a cast. Awful ableist design.
Toilets that have NO facilities for dads out and about with their children who need a diaper/nappy change for their child/children. Hospitals that provide hardly any parking for visitors or people attending day clinic. One local to myself has halved the out patients/visitors parking to provide more staff parking...the staff parked in the visitors carpark as they couldn't be bothered to walk the extra 10 meters!
So, the District Manager for the area, of the company I work for, decided our stockroom needed changes. He brought in,a team, which including no one from our store. After they left, it took us months to get things to a somewhat logical layout. There is a loft, with a ladder that doesn't go high enough up the wall, so most people have to "step" into the platform using their knees. They put so much stuff we use on a daily basis up there, and stuff we never use down below. Used 7 shelves to place stuff I had in 4. And threw away SO MUCH stuff I have had to reorder. SO wasteful...more plastic and metal into landfills, and more money spent by the company getting replacements. It still infuriates me to think about it.
I hate it when bathroom doors in restaurants swing inward. I'm not talking about the stall doors, but the door of the bathroom itself. They need to swing outward so that you can shove them open with your elbow after you wash your hands. I've seen so many bathrooms where the staff has had to place an extra trashcan outside the door just for people to put the dry papertowel they'd used to touch the door handle. Or some places will put a toe-grab at the bottom of the door so at least you can try to wrangle it open with your foot. There shouldn't be any need for these things if they just built the door the right way, which I've only seen happen a handful of times, and it's like bliss when you finally find one. The worst is when they don't do anything to compensate for the design flaw, especially if there are no paper towels
They need to swing both ways, otherwise people with disabilities can't pull the door open, whichever way it's mounted. Put a window in it so you don't slam it into someone, and make it push both ways.
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I live in a cold snowy climate and have often wondered why grocery stores don't have drainage under a grid floor in the entrance airlock. Melted snow and slush build up on the floor until someone comes along and squeegees it out the door. Also, why don't restaurants have a place to hang up winter coats near the tables? Not every place has a coat check.
ridiculous bathroom design the company ceo thought was so great. trough sink with several taps. NOWHERE to put anything down but the floor, no where. only one bathroom in the place and all the women complained. If you were trying to stop in quick on your way to a meeting... you have nothing to put your papers, laptop, purse down. Try washing your hands while holding everything
The idiots at all of the Kingsoopers here in Colorado that think it's a good idea to hang products right next to the card readers in self checkouts, better hope your chip works cause if you have to slide your card you will end up with bloody knuckles.
#Agreed. I think they do it as some kind of revenge for shoppers leaving the carts all over the parking lot. That and the gate you have to pass through on the way into the store. #ISeeThroughYourCleverRuse
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I love the old Volkswagen Westfallia camper equipment, so much so that when we got a Sprinter van to convert to a camper that we bought the sink/stove/fridge section from a wrecked Westy and had it installed. It works great but whoever designed the k**b for the water in the sink never tried turning it on or off with soapy fingers or cleaned around it. It’s slippery even with dry hands and it collects water and detritus around the base like that’s its real job. When the k**b quit working (super common issue) my husband wired in a switch to regulate the water instead. Not a perfect fix but at least it actually works!
my prothers room at my house was the porch before it got made into a room
Grocery cart returns that are so far away from disabled parking that I have to leave my cart in front of my parking place.
Black and white license photos. Everyone has grey hair and grey faces so how are police supposedly to correctly identify ANYONE?
They implemented facial recognition software and then null and voided their own software by removing the ability to verify whether someone is white black Hispanic Asian Indian or f*****g polkadotted because everyone has grey skin and contrary to belief that doesn't create racial equality that just makes it blatantly obvious if someone has a very dark complexion and completely morphs anyone with a lighter complexion into an androgynously undistinguishable group OF LIGHT COLORED PEOPLE WHO ARE PROBABLY NOT BLACK. Statistically that makes dark complexion people the minority against all other skin colors and that subconsciously creates segregation to the brain based on visual difference to the majority of grey pale faces.
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Red lights on on ramps to highways.Who thought that that would make merging into traffic more efficient???? It only stops someone from the small windows of opportunity they may have had to merge into traffic.
Tiny houses with absolutely no storage space ,- no dresser - no closet - no shoe rack - no linen closet - no towel closet ,- no upper kitchen cabinets - no coat hooks - it's all minimalist furniture with like 2-3 cabinets underneath the sink. Where am I supposed to put the broom? Mop? Vacuum cleaner? Trash can? Kids toys? High chair? Playpen? Guinea pig cage? Litter box? Pet bed? Extra blankets? Fans/space heaters when not in use? Bathrobe? Crockpot? Where exactly am I supposed to hide my sex toys in a 4ft loft that is 6x8 with nothing but a full-sized mattress and Ikea cubby shelf that's doubling as a privacy wall? Should I put my sex toys in the kitchen drawer with the silverware since that's the only drawer in my tiny home?
My foot doctor's office has only 2 handicap parking spots on the far side of the complex, and he's treating patients who are on walkers and crutches from foot surgeries, so they have to walk the entire length of the building to get to his office. Once there, he has no automatic door opener, so you have to juggle/balance on your crutches or walker to manually open the heavy swing door. Then the waiting room has soft, low deep cushioned sofas, that are impossible to get up from when one of your feet is disabled. I always have to ask the front office staff to go find me a hard chair from the back for me to sit on while waiting to be seen by the doctor. Frustrating all the way around. I did bring all these issues to the doctor's attention, and told him he needs to choose his office location from the PATIENT'S viewpoint.
To add to bad sink designs - those 'modern' faucets that have buttons you push and run water for a certain amount of time. It just wastes water when I still have a little soap on my hands and need to start an entirely new cycle.
I'm trying to figure out the logic of the handicapped spaces in the parking lot of our local market. It all sounds good on paper - you've got the parking spaces, then there's a small grassy island at the head of them, with a marked (blue painted lines) handicap path between the cars & the island leading to the entrance to the store. The trouble is, they've also got blue-painted concrete car stops planted smack-dab in the middle of the pathway. If you're in a wheelchair, there's no room to go around or over them, and they're a tripping hazard if you're on crutches. EDIT - I just remembered my old office building. Eight floors including the lobby that were accessible to the general public (there was a ninth floor for the Lord High Mucky Mucks of the company, which required a special key fob to enter), of which three had restrooms with a handicapped-accessible stall. Our floor was one of them, and I noticed that while there was an under-the-sink cutout to allow a wheelchair user to get close to the sink, they didn't reroute the drainpipes so anyone attempting to do so would slam their knees into the P-trap.
Just ONCE I would like to work in an Emergency Department that was designed by the Nurses, Providers, Lab, Rad & ER techs who actually spend their time trying to safely and efficiently care for patients and save lives -- not someone who thought the plans and elevations looked cool on paper (or a monitor). Try running a code in most rooms, let alone move a stretcher (gurney, bed, litter...whatever it's called in your location) and patient to wherever they need to go...
I worked at a medical clinic. First, the walls were all white, no color. The check in station was nowhere near the front and was also all white so everything blended together and it couldn't be seen. Visitors walked right post. Second, there were not enough parking spots for employees let alone patients and families. Employees had to park in neighboring lots we had to lease. Third, desk drawers only pulled out halfway. Desks where we had to store supplies, documentation, etc only provided half the necessary space.
My college dorm was a 3 story walk up that was on the historical building roll so was excused from ADA compliance…but when they redid the 3rd floor bathroom the *new* bathroom had to be ADA compliance. So the only handicap-friendly bathroom in the whole structure was on the 3rd floor. Everyone used to mock that handicapped stall, how ridiculously absurd it was to have on a 3 story walk up!
My high school probably had literally every design flaw you could think of; the school joke was “you can get heat stroke and frost bite on the same day; the library amplifies sound and the auditorium muffles it” also the heat/ac was not controlled physically from the school building so they had to put in a request for the heat/ac to be turned on, joke was “the AC turns on in September and the heat finally gets on about March”. (No one was really sure or could explain *why* the heat was on during the spring months but may or may not be on all winter while the vents all blew cold air all fall but not in the spring/early summer).
Maybe I've always just been in the right parts of town and the right cities, but what is the deal with all the "anti-theft" screws and hardware on public toilet stalls? Is this really a problem anywhere, with people stealing the bathroom stalls and taking them home?
All these "open plan" offices are just awful. Cubicle farms, fluorescent lighting everywhere. If your cubicle is large enough to have your back to the wall, passersby can see up your skirt. If you're not that lucky, your back is to a traffic pattern, causing your lizard-brain to be always in fight or flight mode. How does that up productivity? Having to hear others' music, personal phone calls (yes, you shouldn't be making personal calls at work, but sometimes you have to make a doctor's appointment, and your coworkers REALLY don't need to hear your private medical concerns), smell their lunch or scented products, etc. And the latest incarnation is the the "musical chairs" office, with a dozen plus desks all in an open space, some of which are obviously in more desirable positions, so it becomes a race to see who can start their shift how many hours earlier to race to the "good" desk. ALL workspaces should have proper walls and NO headache-causing fluorescent lighting!!!
I worked in a beautiful restored historic building that had very similar floor plans on the both floors of the building. The one glaring difference was the first floor had the men’s room on left and women’s on the right. Second floor was the opposite with women’s on the left and men’s on the right. Visitors were not the only ones that would occasionally find themselves misplaced. But it did produce some spontaneous conversations among the occupants.
I once heard an architecture critic say, “The problem is that engineers never talk to architects, architects never talk to city planners, and city planners never talk to anyone.”
My apartment has cupboards in the kitchen that are so high I can't even reach the second shelf. I'm 5'4" the average height of the American woman! So I have 7 shelves that are completely useless unless I have a stepladder in my kitchen constantly. They also designed the place so the bathrooms are next to the living rooms....this means that when the upstairs neighbors flush, you can hear it in your living room wall and it drowns out all other sound.
My house was built the same way... in 2020! I'm 5'1" and have to use a step stool to access my above stove microwave, upper cabinets and the shelves above the washer and dryer in my laundry room.
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When our new school opened, the man who designed the library came in, very proud of himself. He asked me what I thought. His face fell and he went silent when I answered. "The checkout counter is in this corner instead of in the middle. The counter is too wide to reach the person on the other side. You physically cannot get a chair under either seating area under the pull out keyboard tray." There was a lot more....
Try being a welder.... I swear engineers never think how we're supposed to get to some spots in order to do it the right way. Only way to get some areas done is to do them out of order and this incorrectly. Who knows what structal issues may happen years down the line and will never be able to be repaired. No good in my business of building gigantic cranes and mining equipment
A large majority of these issues are not the fault of or even touched on by the architect. Architecs do not spend time considering where to place every electrical outlet or soap dispenser. The contractors building it often pick what they think works best with the budget and time they have.
What about prams? They need to height adjustable. Face the pusher. Most importantly an automatic brake to stop when you let go of the handle. Not had to use a pram for about 5 years but they are so unsafe with such precious cargo. Handled which hold bags. I realise this is not bathroom related but they are a faulty design. Do any women have any input.
I love love love my house. We bought it, newly renovated, from another with lots of kids and, supposedly, purpose-designed everything to suit their family. BUUUUUT….I am convinced they never did any laundry. Ever. The laundry room is tucked far away from everything, only accessible by a skinny door (near-impossible to navigate carrying a washing basket), plenty of cupboard space but only accommodates a single, small, combined washer-dryer (which means I end up doing 2-3 loads a day and can’t ever use the dryer), and is on the other side of the house to the washing line which I can only access by the skinny door or a skinny passageway or one of the kids’ bedrooms. I don’t know WHAT the arrangement was for laundry for the other family but I suspect they weren’t doing it themselves.
ridiculous bathroom in a building my former company had designed. Trough sink with several taps. Nowhere to put anything down, no where. On your way to a meeting across the building, no where to put your papers, laptop, purse down, no where. every woman in the building complained. Only place was the floor... gross
Used a toilet labeled wheelchair friendly at auckland museum. Opened entry door to find disabled lady trapped inside, patiently waiting for someone to open the door ... it opened inwards towards her and she couldn't reach handle let alone pull door towards her. I don't know how long she'd been there. Could have been days for all the designers care.
my school is an architecture mess, the cafeteria doesnt fit everyone and the lines fill all the 1st floor's corridors, the corridors are too small and you cant walk without bumping on people, there is a big VERY BIG reception with a giant space with nothing and literally no one stays there, there are 2 holes in the middle of the school for 2 gardens that have no plants and no use at all, the common room which should be in the middle of the school because it's where everyone should meet is a hidden room where almost no one stays, there is a big ass empty space in the outside with no benches at all and a balcony (the school is in a very high area) but you cant be there (?????), the lab doesn't have enough storage and doesnt have a fridge (I complain because me and my friend were the ones to organize and clean it), it doesnt have a center so it's just a labyrinth with a lot of corridors and stairs, things are far from each other and the dance and acrobacy room stays in the common room
My high school was fairly well designed when I was there, except for the wheelchair ramps being so much longer you were likely to be late to every class. There was basically three parallel buildings with corridors connecting each. Each building had two year level's lockers and the corresponding coordinator's office in it. Then they got a grant to upgrade it. They made 'pod' type buildings, quite far from each other with open plan classrooms in them that often couldn't be closed off when needed. Then they put the whole school's lockers in the one small section of one building, so no one could get to them easily because there were just so many people. They demolished the library and only kept a few of the books and put them in the common room but you couldn't take them home. On top of all that they still didn't include air cons in any building except the administration one! Apparently they didn't even have the portable fans from the previous classrooms in most places, which is great for
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My father built our house with my uncle. Before you start building something, I'm pretty sure you have to check the designs, the floor plans and everything. Yet still, I grew up in a house where if you wanted to go to the second floor, the only way to get to the stairs was, to walk right through the center of the living room between the couch and the TV...
Wow! My grandad built his house, which became our house when he retired. He planned meticulously. Every counter, light fitting and door way was lowered because we are a short family. the in floor heating was fed through to every room including a radiator below the towel rack so the towels dried quicker. Secret hidey-holes in my mum and grandma's dressing table to store valuables. built in tv cupboards in the living room which backed onto the laundry so he put extra cupboards in the remaining space on the laundry side. So much more but I can't remember...and now it has been sold and demolished lol.
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Whoever designed the new building at my old high school forgot that is actually does rain in Australia, as you can't walk around the outside of the building without walking under a few solid sheets of water falling off it. There's also the new hospital in my city, where the hook for IV bags were put at "head height" without thinking about how a) women are generally shorter and b) IV bags can be very heavy. They had to find the shortest member of staff, work out her reach, then move all the hooks down.
Haha, I'm Australian too and my old school had covered walkways between most buildings until they got an upgrade. Now the buildings are further apart and there is no cover at all. I can imagine how hard it would be to hang IV bags in that instance as I am so short. I work in Kindergartens and had to get the taller staff members to do things like refilling paper towel in the staff bathroom as I couldn't reach, especially as the key for it usually hung above the top of the dispenser.
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How about the blue jeans for men that are so short in the straddle that you can't pull them up to decent level without castrating yourself? There was a time when the wasteband came just above the pelvis bone on the sides, and you still had room for your equipment! Obviously, the designers are women, these days. And they like to see men running around with their pants barely hanging onto their hips and looking like your local drug dealer.
I'll add to this - architects who design hospitals. It's all lovely having double/triple-height ceilings to create the feel of light and space, but try cleaning up there! Skylight windows also get full of cobwebs our cleaning teams struggle to reach without injuring themselves. Architectural features with little dust-collecting ledges are also a pain. We wish they would think about how their designs might make cleaning difficult and therefore not help us control infection so well.
100% agree with that, have seen some really great hospital designs (for example one where the linoleum in corridors curved up and ended up flush with the wall surface, so there were no skirting ledges to gather dust or corners that couldn't be mopped). Then when they built a new local hospital near me, standard hallways and rooms, then a central atrium which everything looked over with glass lifts and windowsills at every window. Result was it was impossible to keep clean, soon every room has a view of a sill with dust and detritus on it, and the top of the lifts are filthy and can be seen from inside, as well as all the windows above.
Load More Replies... Like I said in another comment. I hate how badly designed things are if you are handicapped. Urban architects and engineers should live a month in a wheelchair or with a stroller before they do things. For example the metro at my parents city is """adapted""" for us, they put a beautiful disabled sticker and cheered of how amazing they are. The metros are taller than the platforms and it leaves a small step. Small enough that a walking person wont notice but bit enough that my disabilities scotter cannot get there... The apartment where my grandma lives got their entrance renovated a few years ago to add a ramp to the elevator. They spent a fortune making it fancy. But to get to the ramp you need to go up two steps. My gran goes on a wheelchair and cannot get out of her appartment without help...
I absolutely agree. Chair user here. Things might be "ADA compliant" but the designers who decided on minimum standards weren't doing us any favors. I've got more scrapes on my knuckles from rooms what were supposedly wheelchair friendly but were too narrow to move in. Take our town hall - the handicap ramp is located down the block and it's closed off by a chained and locked gate which nobody knows where the key is. However, handicap parking is in front, so you have to roll down the block to come back up (if they have the key). I tried to go to a town meeting to complain and couldn't even get in because of the stairs. Their response - "we put the parking close, that's good enough." WTF?!
Load More Replies... Once a public restroom I was using regularly was vandalized in the most useful way possible: Someone brought a large nail and drove it into the door on the inside. He was heavily fined for it and banned from the presmises, but of course they let the nail in place, as it was the perfect height to hang coats, as none of the original planners had thought of adding a clothing hook. Of course, this was a european style toilet, with an actual door and no gap...
We got a huge grant and built this massive building on campus. They got all fancy with the building design and it is pretty much 100% glass, in Florida, in the sun. Half of the building is always boiling while the other half is freezing because the sun bakes the side with the sun and the AC is on full blast non-stop. They tested the temps and some people will be in their 89 degree office while the other side of the building has people working in 50 degree weather. That and the glass stair case and walk ways that you could see up someone's skirt when standing on the ground floor. Millions of dollars for the worst building on campus to work in.
I do agree with all the complaints. However, I am that much more grateful for the way my work is designed. I work at a bar and grill that is well established. About 6-7 years ago, a man who owns and operates a successful construction company had bought the establishment. He then renovated the kitchen and had us cooks basically design it when expanding it. He is always listening to our ideas and makes changes when he sees that it will increase productivity. Awesome guy and great to work for.
Imo architects in general don't give a flying f*** about the people who will have to use what they built.
Don't design contracts require the architect to personally demonstrate the functionality and useability of their designs? I mean, if I was in the army and got someone to design and build a new gun, I'd want them to demonstrate that it actually works, that it can be used in the field, that it can be maintained and repaired, etc.
Load More Replies... How about the architects who design a home with 20x30 bedrooms expecting people to fill them with 7 a foot tall armoire, and 8 foot long dresser, but make the stairway turn after 5 steps and then end in a wall at the top of the stairs? It's great to have the space upstairs, but you have to think about how the furniture will get there.
As an architect, a lot of the issues here are not the architect's fault. In America, ADA requirements tie our hands so much in public buildings. You go have no idea the headache it can be to ensure your building is in complete compliance. Further, it is very rare that we ever get the freedom to design what we want. In the end, all we do is design what our clients want. We can't just add things as we would like. We can make suggestions, but the client will almost always prefer the bare minimum needed. We have no say in adding hooks, shelves, etc. It is not our money.
As someone in a wheelchair ADA requirements aren't even good enough. They're bare minimum and rarely actually useful for a chair user. I do understand what you mean about bare minimum - worked a construction company first job of of college and whenever we did bathrooms they'd want minimum cost. No hooks and useless smallest size sinks that get cramped once you add the paper towel dispenser and soap dispenser.
Load More Replies... The hospital I worked in had carpet in the hallways for YEARS. MRSA, C- diff, all SORTS of lovely stuff hitching a ride on your shoes back home with you...
Kitchens where the stove is right next to a doorway (person coming around the corner can knock a pan off the stove or spill something), or too close to a window (a curtain in my friend's kitchen caught fire).
At my work they took away our break room to turn it into a large handicapped accessible bathroom complete with an adult changing table. Which, ok, good having that if needed. But the grab bars next to the toilet are only on one side and awkward to use. And the sink faucet and soap dispenser cannot be reached by anyone in a wheelchair. Right next to this is the older bathroom that does have a lower sink (but still unreachable soap dispensers). Also has a super heavy door which won’t stay open enough for a person in a wheelchair or even crutches to easily use, while the new bathroom at least has an push button automatic door. So between the two, there’s perhaps one functional accessible bathroom.
I work in CAD'ing industrial equipment. I'm not that experienced in the field yet, but learned a lot the previous year, and continue to currently, too. But, that aside, I always ask myself if there is some nice detail that could be included that maybe doesn't change much, but makes the people operating the equipment happy ... so that they tell the people who decide to buy equpmen from us that some little detail, now, ain't pesty no more, but has gotten quite enjoyable. But then again - do the deciders listen to the users? I don't know ... that end, I have limited means. Plus, I genuinely think that we, who develop these things in detail, should keep an eye on how comfortable operating a set of machinery is to those doing that 40 hours a week, just as we expect our software, desk, chair and stuff to work flawlessly and user friendly. We're all obligated to make sure that downstream of us no one has a reason to complain, just as we don't want to have one either.
Makes me remember one public toilets. Everything looked well designed, until you washed your hands. Sinks were tiny and so shallow, you couldn't fit you hands comfortably under faucet. You inevitably ended splashing water all over youself, mirror, everywhere.
I went to one recently like that, and the tap was angled half out of the basin too.
Load More Replies... During my travels I often stayed at hostels that had small shower rooms with no hooks to hang your clothing, no shelf to place your toiletries bag, and nothing to sit on while putting on your shoes and socks. You had to try to hang your clothes and towel from the doorknob, from which they inevitably feel into the wet, dirty floor, and had to try and balance your bag on the edge of the sink or atop the soap dispenser or light fixture, from which they also fell. It was painfully obvious that the people who designed those rooms and the hostel's staff had never actually used a public shower room. How hard would it be to add a few hooks, a small shelf near the sink, and a plastic stool or bench?
@david Roberts I'm so grateful to read this because I was just thinking about how I stayed at a super fancy hotel for work, $400 a night -- lookin' at you, W Hotel in Scottsdale! -- AND MY ROOM HAD NO TOWEL HOOKS OR BARS. And, the glass shower door was literally 8 or 9 feet tall so I couldn't even toss my towel over the door. They also had no plugs next to the bed, which was in the middle of the room. 🤔
Load More Replies... Why do people think only of disabled legs when they "design for disability"? I have disabled hands. Round doorknobs, heavy doors you have to pull instead of them being "pushable" both ways, light switches that are small and around corners, all contribute to a person with disabled hands having to constantly beg others for help. And if your legs aren't disabled, people don't even think about offering help to someone whose hands are disabled, because hand disability is far less visible than leg disability.
I’ll never understand the concept behind my grandparents home: five bedrooms..and ONE bathroom
I used to work at a mall that had sensors for turning the taps on in the bathroom, no manual way to activate it. The sinks required both hands in front of the sensor to activate. Never once did they think that some people dont have two hands or one is temporarly unavailable, ej,bandaged or in a cast. Awful ableist design.
Toilets that have NO facilities for dads out and about with their children who need a diaper/nappy change for their child/children. Hospitals that provide hardly any parking for visitors or people attending day clinic. One local to myself has halved the out patients/visitors parking to provide more staff parking...the staff parked in the visitors carpark as they couldn't be bothered to walk the extra 10 meters!
So, the District Manager for the area, of the company I work for, decided our stockroom needed changes. He brought in,a team, which including no one from our store. After they left, it took us months to get things to a somewhat logical layout. There is a loft, with a ladder that doesn't go high enough up the wall, so most people have to "step" into the platform using their knees. They put so much stuff we use on a daily basis up there, and stuff we never use down below. Used 7 shelves to place stuff I had in 4. And threw away SO MUCH stuff I have had to reorder. SO wasteful...more plastic and metal into landfills, and more money spent by the company getting replacements. It still infuriates me to think about it.
I hate it when bathroom doors in restaurants swing inward. I'm not talking about the stall doors, but the door of the bathroom itself. They need to swing outward so that you can shove them open with your elbow after you wash your hands. I've seen so many bathrooms where the staff has had to place an extra trashcan outside the door just for people to put the dry papertowel they'd used to touch the door handle. Or some places will put a toe-grab at the bottom of the door so at least you can try to wrangle it open with your foot. There shouldn't be any need for these things if they just built the door the right way, which I've only seen happen a handful of times, and it's like bliss when you finally find one. The worst is when they don't do anything to compensate for the design flaw, especially if there are no paper towels
They need to swing both ways, otherwise people with disabilities can't pull the door open, whichever way it's mounted. Put a window in it so you don't slam it into someone, and make it push both ways.
Load More Replies... I live in a cold snowy climate and have often wondered why grocery stores don't have drainage under a grid floor in the entrance airlock. Melted snow and slush build up on the floor until someone comes along and squeegees it out the door. Also, why don't restaurants have a place to hang up winter coats near the tables? Not every place has a coat check.
ridiculous bathroom design the company ceo thought was so great. trough sink with several taps. NOWHERE to put anything down but the floor, no where. only one bathroom in the place and all the women complained. If you were trying to stop in quick on your way to a meeting... you have nothing to put your papers, laptop, purse down. Try washing your hands while holding everything
The idiots at all of the Kingsoopers here in Colorado that think it's a good idea to hang products right next to the card readers in self checkouts, better hope your chip works cause if you have to slide your card you will end up with bloody knuckles.
#Agreed. I think they do it as some kind of revenge for shoppers leaving the carts all over the parking lot. That and the gate you have to pass through on the way into the store. #ISeeThroughYourCleverRuse
Load More Replies... I love the old Volkswagen Westfallia camper equipment, so much so that when we got a Sprinter van to convert to a camper that we bought the sink/stove/fridge section from a wrecked Westy and had it installed. It works great but whoever designed the k**b for the water in the sink never tried turning it on or off with soapy fingers or cleaned around it. It’s slippery even with dry hands and it collects water and detritus around the base like that’s its real job. When the k**b quit working (super common issue) my husband wired in a switch to regulate the water instead. Not a perfect fix but at least it actually works!
my prothers room at my house was the porch before it got made into a room
Grocery cart returns that are so far away from disabled parking that I have to leave my cart in front of my parking place.
Black and white license photos. Everyone has grey hair and grey faces so how are police supposedly to correctly identify ANYONE?
They implemented facial recognition software and then null and voided their own software by removing the ability to verify whether someone is white black Hispanic Asian Indian or f*****g polkadotted because everyone has grey skin and contrary to belief that doesn't create racial equality that just makes it blatantly obvious if someone has a very dark complexion and completely morphs anyone with a lighter complexion into an androgynously undistinguishable group OF LIGHT COLORED PEOPLE WHO ARE PROBABLY NOT BLACK. Statistically that makes dark complexion people the minority against all other skin colors and that subconsciously creates segregation to the brain based on visual difference to the majority of grey pale faces.
Load More Replies... Electric gates at the front of apartment complexes when the power goes out and won't open. Or it resets the code box so the code to open the gate stops working and locks you out of accessing your apartment.
Red lights on on ramps to highways.Who thought that that would make merging into traffic more efficient???? It only stops someone from the small windows of opportunity they may have had to merge into traffic.
Tiny houses with absolutely no storage space ,- no dresser - no closet - no shoe rack - no linen closet - no towel closet ,- no upper kitchen cabinets - no coat hooks - it's all minimalist furniture with like 2-3 cabinets underneath the sink. Where am I supposed to put the broom? Mop? Vacuum cleaner? Trash can? Kids toys? High chair? Playpen? Guinea pig cage? Litter box? Pet bed? Extra blankets? Fans/space heaters when not in use? Bathrobe? Crockpot? Where exactly am I supposed to hide my sex toys in a 4ft loft that is 6x8 with nothing but a full-sized mattress and Ikea cubby shelf that's doubling as a privacy wall? Should I put my sex toys in the kitchen drawer with the silverware since that's the only drawer in my tiny home?
My foot doctor's office has only 2 handicap parking spots on the far side of the complex, and he's treating patients who are on walkers and crutches from foot surgeries, so they have to walk the entire length of the building to get to his office. Once there, he has no automatic door opener, so you have to juggle/balance on your crutches or walker to manually open the heavy swing door. Then the waiting room has soft, low deep cushioned sofas, that are impossible to get up from when one of your feet is disabled. I always have to ask the front office staff to go find me a hard chair from the back for me to sit on while waiting to be seen by the doctor. Frustrating all the way around. I did bring all these issues to the doctor's attention, and told him he needs to choose his office location from the PATIENT'S viewpoint.
To add to bad sink designs - those 'modern' faucets that have buttons you push and run water for a certain amount of time. It just wastes water when I still have a little soap on my hands and need to start an entirely new cycle.
I'm trying to figure out the logic of the handicapped spaces in the parking lot of our local market. It all sounds good on paper - you've got the parking spaces, then there's a small grassy island at the head of them, with a marked (blue painted lines) handicap path between the cars & the island leading to the entrance to the store. The trouble is, they've also got blue-painted concrete car stops planted smack-dab in the middle of the pathway. If you're in a wheelchair, there's no room to go around or over them, and they're a tripping hazard if you're on crutches. EDIT - I just remembered my old office building. Eight floors including the lobby that were accessible to the general public (there was a ninth floor for the Lord High Mucky Mucks of the company, which required a special key fob to enter), of which three had restrooms with a handicapped-accessible stall. Our floor was one of them, and I noticed that while there was an under-the-sink cutout to allow a wheelchair user to get close to the sink, they didn't reroute the drainpipes so anyone attempting to do so would slam their knees into the P-trap.
Just ONCE I would like to work in an Emergency Department that was designed by the Nurses, Providers, Lab, Rad & ER techs who actually spend their time trying to safely and efficiently care for patients and save lives -- not someone who thought the plans and elevations looked cool on paper (or a monitor). Try running a code in most rooms, let alone move a stretcher (gurney, bed, litter...whatever it's called in your location) and patient to wherever they need to go...
I worked at a medical clinic. First, the walls were all white, no color. The check in station was nowhere near the front and was also all white so everything blended together and it couldn't be seen. Visitors walked right post. Second, there were not enough parking spots for employees let alone patients and families. Employees had to park in neighboring lots we had to lease. Third, desk drawers only pulled out halfway. Desks where we had to store supplies, documentation, etc only provided half the necessary space.
My college dorm was a 3 story walk up that was on the historical building roll so was excused from ADA compliance…but when they redid the 3rd floor bathroom the *new* bathroom had to be ADA compliance. So the only handicap-friendly bathroom in the whole structure was on the 3rd floor. Everyone used to mock that handicapped stall, how ridiculously absurd it was to have on a 3 story walk up!
My high school probably had literally every design flaw you could think of; the school joke was “you can get heat stroke and frost bite on the same day; the library amplifies sound and the auditorium muffles it” also the heat/ac was not controlled physically from the school building so they had to put in a request for the heat/ac to be turned on, joke was “the AC turns on in September and the heat finally gets on about March”. (No one was really sure or could explain *why* the heat was on during the spring months but may or may not be on all winter while the vents all blew cold air all fall but not in the spring/early summer).
Maybe I've always just been in the right parts of town and the right cities, but what is the deal with all the "anti-theft" screws and hardware on public toilet stalls? Is this really a problem anywhere, with people stealing the bathroom stalls and taking them home?
All these "open plan" offices are just awful. Cubicle farms, fluorescent lighting everywhere. If your cubicle is large enough to have your back to the wall, passersby can see up your skirt. If you're not that lucky, your back is to a traffic pattern, causing your lizard-brain to be always in fight or flight mode. How does that up productivity? Having to hear others' music, personal phone calls (yes, you shouldn't be making personal calls at work, but sometimes you have to make a doctor's appointment, and your coworkers REALLY don't need to hear your private medical concerns), smell their lunch or scented products, etc. And the latest incarnation is the the "musical chairs" office, with a dozen plus desks all in an open space, some of which are obviously in more desirable positions, so it becomes a race to see who can start their shift how many hours earlier to race to the "good" desk. ALL workspaces should have proper walls and NO headache-causing fluorescent lighting!!!
I worked in a beautiful restored historic building that had very similar floor plans on the both floors of the building. The one glaring difference was the first floor had the men’s room on left and women’s on the right. Second floor was the opposite with women’s on the left and men’s on the right. Visitors were not the only ones that would occasionally find themselves misplaced. But it did produce some spontaneous conversations among the occupants.
I once heard an architecture critic say, “The problem is that engineers never talk to architects, architects never talk to city planners, and city planners never talk to anyone.”
My apartment has cupboards in the kitchen that are so high I can't even reach the second shelf. I'm 5'4" the average height of the American woman! So I have 7 shelves that are completely useless unless I have a stepladder in my kitchen constantly. They also designed the place so the bathrooms are next to the living rooms....this means that when the upstairs neighbors flush, you can hear it in your living room wall and it drowns out all other sound.
My house was built the same way... in 2020! I'm 5'1" and have to use a step stool to access my above stove microwave, upper cabinets and the shelves above the washer and dryer in my laundry room.
Load More Replies... They built a community civic center and ut won a bunch of archetectual awards. I have no idea why, it is basically a banquet hall that can be turned into three rooms, and a stage with no space backstage, underneath, or in the wings, with a light bar that was omly accessed through a three foot hatch up a narrow two story ladder, and all the gobos and electric boards had to be pulled up on ropes.
When our new school opened, the man who designed the library came in, very proud of himself. He asked me what I thought. His face fell and he went silent when I answered. "The checkout counter is in this corner instead of in the middle. The counter is too wide to reach the person on the other side. You physically cannot get a chair under either seating area under the pull out keyboard tray." There was a lot more....
Try being a welder.... I swear engineers never think how we're supposed to get to some spots in order to do it the right way. Only way to get some areas done is to do them out of order and this incorrectly. Who knows what structal issues may happen years down the line and will never be able to be repaired. No good in my business of building gigantic cranes and mining equipment
A large majority of these issues are not the fault of or even touched on by the architect. Architecs do not spend time considering where to place every electrical outlet or soap dispenser. The contractors building it often pick what they think works best with the budget and time they have.
What about prams? They need to height adjustable. Face the pusher. Most importantly an automatic brake to stop when you let go of the handle. Not had to use a pram for about 5 years but they are so unsafe with such precious cargo. Handled which hold bags. I realise this is not bathroom related but they are a faulty design. Do any women have any input.
I love love love my house. We bought it, newly renovated, from another with lots of kids and, supposedly, purpose-designed everything to suit their family. BUUUUUT….I am convinced they never did any laundry. Ever. The laundry room is tucked far away from everything, only accessible by a skinny door (near-impossible to navigate carrying a washing basket), plenty of cupboard space but only accommodates a single, small, combined washer-dryer (which means I end up doing 2-3 loads a day and can’t ever use the dryer), and is on the other side of the house to the washing line which I can only access by the skinny door or a skinny passageway or one of the kids’ bedrooms. I don’t know WHAT the arrangement was for laundry for the other family but I suspect they weren’t doing it themselves.
ridiculous bathroom in a building my former company had designed. Trough sink with several taps. Nowhere to put anything down, no where. On your way to a meeting across the building, no where to put your papers, laptop, purse down, no where. every woman in the building complained. Only place was the floor... gross
Used a toilet labeled wheelchair friendly at auckland museum. Opened entry door to find disabled lady trapped inside, patiently waiting for someone to open the door ... it opened inwards towards her and she couldn't reach handle let alone pull door towards her. I don't know how long she'd been there. Could have been days for all the designers care.
my school is an architecture mess, the cafeteria doesnt fit everyone and the lines fill all the 1st floor's corridors, the corridors are too small and you cant walk without bumping on people, there is a big VERY BIG reception with a giant space with nothing and literally no one stays there, there are 2 holes in the middle of the school for 2 gardens that have no plants and no use at all, the common room which should be in the middle of the school because it's where everyone should meet is a hidden room where almost no one stays, there is a big ass empty space in the outside with no benches at all and a balcony (the school is in a very high area) but you cant be there (?????), the lab doesn't have enough storage and doesnt have a fridge (I complain because me and my friend were the ones to organize and clean it), it doesnt have a center so it's just a labyrinth with a lot of corridors and stairs, things are far from each other and the dance and acrobacy room stays in the common room
My high school was fairly well designed when I was there, except for the wheelchair ramps being so much longer you were likely to be late to every class. There was basically three parallel buildings with corridors connecting each. Each building had two year level's lockers and the corresponding coordinator's office in it. Then they got a grant to upgrade it. They made 'pod' type buildings, quite far from each other with open plan classrooms in them that often couldn't be closed off when needed. Then they put the whole school's lockers in the one small section of one building, so no one could get to them easily because there were just so many people. They demolished the library and only kept a few of the books and put them in the common room but you couldn't take them home. On top of all that they still didn't include air cons in any building except the administration one! Apparently they didn't even have the portable fans from the previous classrooms in most places, which is great for
Load More Replies... My father built our house with my uncle. Before you start building something, I'm pretty sure you have to check the designs, the floor plans and everything. Yet still, I grew up in a house where if you wanted to go to the second floor, the only way to get to the stairs was, to walk right through the center of the living room between the couch and the TV...
Wow! My grandad built his house, which became our house when he retired. He planned meticulously. Every counter, light fitting and door way was lowered because we are a short family. the in floor heating was fed through to every room including a radiator below the towel rack so the towels dried quicker. Secret hidey-holes in my mum and grandma's dressing table to store valuables. built in tv cupboards in the living room which backed onto the laundry so he put extra cupboards in the remaining space on the laundry side. So much more but I can't remember...and now it has been sold and demolished lol.
Load More Replies... Whoever designed the new building at my old high school forgot that is actually does rain in Australia, as you can't walk around the outside of the building without walking under a few solid sheets of water falling off it. There's also the new hospital in my city, where the hook for IV bags were put at "head height" without thinking about how a) women are generally shorter and b) IV bags can be very heavy. They had to find the shortest member of staff, work out her reach, then move all the hooks down.
Haha, I'm Australian too and my old school had covered walkways between most buildings until they got an upgrade. Now the buildings are further apart and there is no cover at all. I can imagine how hard it would be to hang IV bags in that instance as I am so short. I work in Kindergartens and had to get the taller staff members to do things like refilling paper towel in the staff bathroom as I couldn't reach, especially as the key for it usually hung above the top of the dispenser.
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How about the blue jeans for men that are so short in the straddle that you can't pull them up to decent level without castrating yourself? There was a time when the wasteband came just above the pelvis bone on the sides, and you still had room for your equipment! Obviously, the designers are women, these days. And they like to see men running around with their pants barely hanging onto their hips and looking like your local drug dealer.
