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LGBTQ history dates back to the first recorded instances of same-sex love and sexuality in ancient civilizations. Ancient Egyptian royal servants Khnumhotep and Niankhkhnum, who lived c. 2400 BCE, are believed to be the first recorded same-sex couple in history, so you get the perspective.

But many oblivious people refuse to believe that being homosexual, bisexual, queer, and transgender are as old as history itself. In fact, some delusional people would go as far as to think they've spotted actual mistakes in movies, books, and media that speak of LGBTQ existence in the past.

And thanks to the wonderfully colorful corner of reddit “Sappho And Her Friend,” “a sub dedicated to historical and other LGBTQ erasure from academia and other spaces,” we have the cringiest collection of such delusional examples.

The subreddit that, according to its description, is “Mostly humorous but open to serious discussion as well,” was created a year ago and has since gained a 266k-solid fanbase who waste no time to cut the crap.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah, as a Pole I can assure you that you can tell the difference even in XIXth century letters.

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On Thursday, February 25, The House of Representatives voted to pass the Equality Act, a bill that would ban discrimination against people based on sexual orientation and gender identity. It would also substantially expand the areas to which those discrimination protections apply. The Equality Act would enable protections within education, particularly on how teachers implement LGBTQ-inclusive curriculum.

But when it comes to education from an early age, LGBTQ curriculum is still widely underrepresented in classrooms. Only five states announced in 2019 that LGBTQ history must be taught in public schools, with California being the first. Here, it’s been required from schools to teach kids LGBTQ History since 2011, and the first K-8 textbooks should be approved to meet new state standards in six years.

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ƒιѕн
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Quite the greeting. I believe this is when Kelley came out as lesbian.

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On the other hand, enforcement, funding, and teacher preparation are often ambiguous. This has partly to do with the fact that even though the history of LGBTQ people is as old as history itself, the history of its curriculum is relatively short. From the creation of LGBT History Month in 1994 to the National Park Service’s first report on LGBTQ historic sites in 2016, the last decades showed a promising increase in mainstream teaching of LGBTQ history.

According to historian Eliza Byard, Executive Director of the Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education Network (GLSEN), “A lot of us grew up with history taught to reinforce the idea that only certain ways of being are natural. It is hugely important that every child understand the complexity of human history in all different dimensions in order to have a full understanding of the past, present and possible futures, and that’s what this is ultimately about.”

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sunnie is an idiot. Congrats to the beautiful couple.

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With LGBTQ-inclusive curriculum, there’s hope of a higher level of education from people about same-sex love and gender inclusivity. It’s a much-needed mark of progress which, if anything, came a little too late. Moreover, teaching LGBTQ history in schools will have a tremendously positive impact on the members of the LGBTQ community who will feel less unsafe for their sexual orientation.

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GLSEN’s National School Climate Survey backs it up. It showed that LGBTQ students in schools with an LGBTQ-inclusive curriculum—compared to their counterparts in schools without that curriculum—were “less likely to feel unsafe because of their sexual orientation (41.8% vs. 63.3%) and gender expression (34.6% vs. 47%).”

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Just A Friendly Reminder, The History Books Accidentaly Forgot A Few Pages From Anne's Diary

Just A Friendly Reminder, The History Books Accidentaly Forgot A Few Pages From Anne's Diary

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No way man!!! The ancient greeks were bisexuals. No shame, until the Christianity said it was a capital fault.

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Two Very Good Friends

Two Very Good Friends

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Lily Mae Kitty
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

ok, this is not actually gay! This is an advertisement for wives. Things were very different in the past. Not everything that looks gay to our modern sensibilities actually is. This was a very common thing to have a pic taken with friends and post to the newspaper in rural areas. It was expensive for one man to do, so he might pose with a brother or friends.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Two bros chilling in a storage room, six feet - wait.

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We Must Be Careful Not To Jump To Conclusions

We Must Be Careful Not To Jump To Conclusions

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Greece Wasn't Gay

Greece Wasn't Gay

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Commander Rex
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It was actually the second gayest, Rome takes first place, gay intercource was actively encouraged. I’m not sure about Greece encouraging it, but I know they didn’t care

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Two Silly Pups
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

BWAHAHAH! Yeah, the word 'lesbian' has cleary NO corellation to Lesbos island 🤣

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RoseTheMad
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

and the word "Sapphic" CLEARLY can't come from "Sappho", the writer of homoerotic poetry who lived on Lesbos.

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Allan Breum
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

and then there was Zeus who just screwed anything with a pulse... and probably some things who didn't.

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AlmightyOne
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This person is not only oblivious to the LGBTQ+ community, they also know nothing about history or greek mythology!

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François Carré
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah, ancient Greeks were so smart and ahead of their time that they were homophobic Christian bigots before Jesus was even born.

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TrashPandaru
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The Bible denounces homosexuality all of... ZERO TIMES. NOT ONCE. NADA. That passage actually states men must not shag little boys, which is completely reasonable.

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noralin
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Don't lie to yourself and others. Homosexuality is strictly forbidden both in the.old and new testament. Stop deceiving people.

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Dodo
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's set in the 5th century BC. *Of course* it follows Christianity, named after Jesus Christ who was born in... oh, wait.

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Viviane
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"Whooooaaah, Hera, the Eighth Commandment does not apply to swans, bulls, and showers of gold!"

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Seabeast
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ancient Greece followed Christianity before Christ was even born? Sure dude.

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Ivana
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Cool story dudes, so the bible was written in koine greek, where homosexuality was so common that they didn't have a word for it. Homosexual was added to the bible in the 40s. The word that they mistranslated really means male prostitute. No one was against homosexuality. Sparta encouraged women to live with female lovers because their husbands lived communally in the barracks. If you guys ever read Plato's Republic, there is this whole part of Plato talking to two other dudes about boy love. The Sacred Band was one of the most renowned military groups in history because they paired you with your lover so they would fight harder to protect their lover and they wouldn't run away from the fight either. My husband is Greek, his favorite Greek joke "How do you separate the boys from the men in Greece? With a crowbar."

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Ummm... Men and children is not gay that is wrong. I truely hope your joke is not ment this way.

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notlingling
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

bruh... why do you think they made the myth about Ganymede? Apollo? Hyacinth? Zephyrus?

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Anyone who thinks ancient Greece wasn't gay clearly has never heard of Patroclus and Achilles

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Virgil Blue
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I just read "Otherworld" were the protagagonists are stuck in a VR sim and end up in a Troy sim where that little fact is used by Patrolocus being inhabited by a girl who likes to play as a boy and Achilles by a boy she loves. Not enough females on the Greek side so the sim picked the next best thing it could find. (I wonder if Sword on line was inspired by the books)

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Max Thompson
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ancient greece followed christianity. Yeah, sure, whatever you say.

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I_am_ace
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

People is ancient greece were also trans. They believed that Dionysus got drunk and put them in the wrong body.

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Marco Conti
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's like these people read the Iliad and though Achilles and Patroclus were just really good buddies.

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Richard Portman
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We weren't gay, we were people that you call Greeks. We didn't follow Christianity, we helped invent it. And now we are truly sorry. So far, it appears to be a big mistake. Look at the facts.

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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Good old djharris10 who doesn't know Christianity(named for the followers of Jesus Christ who was a Jew...*GASP!* and started off the who A.D. thing) started hundreds of years after this game's story is played out... > "Assassin's Creed Odyssey... Set in the years 431–422 BC, the plot tells a mythological history of the Peloponnesian War between Athens and Sparta." (Thanks Wikipedia).

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Virgil Blue
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Looking at the tales Zeus thought sex in any form was one of the best things ever.

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Hannu Ala-Olla
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Christianity didn't go angry on gays until middle ages. Until that they realized that those passages in Old Testament where population politics.

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Lynn Morello
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And Pre-Christian Greek soldiers were encouraged to form relationships with their fellow soldiers, this would help them put more effort into fighting for the life of a lover than of a fellow soldier.

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M Kate McCulloch
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ancient Greece was a thing before Jesus was born - who is this ignoramus? Greeks were very open to all kinds of sexual exploration with zero guilt or judgement - probably why they were so damned happy...

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Holly Allen
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sure they followed Christianity...while they worshipped Zeus 🤔

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Chimmels
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ancient greece had all male orgys and just about every senator had a boyfriend

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Eliška Hůlková
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah, ancient Greece definitely followed Christianity, they were so pious they couldn't be stopped even by the fact that there was no Christianity yet.

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Bobby
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wonder what this guy would think of the Sacred Band of Thebes...

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Tigressa101
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I want to know where djharris went to school for his history lessons...or what poor professor failed him so hard

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Ivana Bogdan
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Lol I'm Christian and this is funny :D My favourite literature is Ancient Greek literature :D

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Damo Lee Park
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

yeah, somebody needs to read their bible. Specifically "thou shalt not partake of greek sex"

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El muerto
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

in the Iliad, Achiles lost his cousin, who most historians accept was also his lover. he cried and laments to Athena and promise revenge...look att the movie "Troy" with Brad Pitt...well they got the relationship wrong...histories most manly man warrior was homosexual

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

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Lacey Heward
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Greeks believed in Christianity, and they aren't gay. Bahahaha

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Sweetie Dahling
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Oh yes you better believe my Kassandra 'spent the night' with anybody who wanted her :D (although my favourite was always Alcibiades)

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

n-no ancient greece didn't follow christianity just saying for any karens on BP

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The Bible record does not mention that any prophets of Dog were active during the era of Greek supremacy, nor were any inspired Bible books written then.

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The problem here, djharris10, is that while ancient Greece may have followed Christianity, modern America does not.

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Zeus is slang for Jesus. Both spent time with prostitutes and rode donkeys, although only one of them used a saddle

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Such A Wholesome Friendship. But Where Are Their Wives?

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There is too much in that picture for a conservative brain to proceed correctly. Two colored women of two different cultural styles cannot also be lesbians.

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Lol They’re Married

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Couldn’t Possibly Speculate What They’re Up To

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Guys, people back then shared beds all the time. There was barely any privacy and servants would often sleep in the same room as their employers and their employers children. A mistress and servant sleeping in the same bed doesn't automatically mean they were a couple. The fact that they embrace is the real clue imo.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Is it just me or is it difficult to know how to react in these situations? If you assume someone is gay you could be called out on it and if you don't assume that then you end up on here. I am genuinely confused as to how to act, somebody please help!

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

All we can say is that they were close enough that their loved ones thought they’d like to be laid to rest together. I think that’s lovely

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This Piece Is Called "Brotherhood Of The Nations" Lmao

This Piece Is Called "Brotherhood Of The Nations" Lmao

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