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More and more often do we hear about childfree people who opt for life without kids for various different reasons. And while the societal pressure to have babies is still going strong, women have been more vocal about their life choices.

What we don’t hear that often is the other side of motherhood that challenges the accepted maternal response. But this is changing too, with more women than ever willing to open up about not being satisfied with motherhood in a way society expects them to. This doesn't mean it’s easy—far from that. Women who dare to challenge this explosive taboo and express their regrets are often called “selfish,” “whining,” and even “bad moms.”

“Mothers who regret having children, what made you realize it? And how are you coping?” someone recently asked a daring question on the Ask Women subreddit. It clearly hit a nerve for many women, who saw it as an opportunity to share their complex, yet very valid feelings about being a mom. The thread gives a much-needed perspective from women who question this decision that’s too often taken for granted in our society.

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Mothers Explain Why They Regret Having Kids In 30 Honest Posts I love my daughter (7). She is the most precious thing in my life.

But in recent years I have started to regret having a child. Not because of her. She is the most easy going sweet little girl you could ever meet.

Actually I regret having children because of what’s going on in the world. I feel a SEVERE feeling of doom and anxiety when I think about her future. She will probably never be able to afford a house, will struggle with debt, climate change, scarce resources, growing inequality. I am truly terrified and I feel sooo sooo guilty.
If I was childless today I would 100% for sure not have any child now. Despite loving being a mother, the growing despair I see everyday and knowledge things will only get worse on the next 30 years make me regret having children. I love her with all my heart, and I am sad this is the future she will have. I am sad I placed her in this situation. I know many many of my friends with children feel the same.

In terms of coping I try and do my bit, to make society better for her generation, but I know it won’t be. I try and prepare her, support her by saving as much as I can for her (less than 30 GBP per month but ok, it’s all I can afford) to help her in future. To teach her about fairness and self reliance. But it’s a major stress in the back of my mind.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I agree 100%. Life is very difficult for most people and our future does not look bright at all. Bringing a child to this world (and also contributing to overpopulation) is not an ethical thing to do. Instead people should adopt and foster, those children are already born and still need a loving family.

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Mothers Explain Why They Regret Having Kids In 30 Honest Posts I’m not a good mother. I care about them but I don’t know how to raise them. They are raising themselves with me trying beside them. Generational trauma, insane pedofile bio dad/ex husband. I was too young and groomed.
I traumatized my kids by my ignorance and I can keep trying to learn and grow. And help them. But damage is done. And I wish I could go back and fix me so I could help them but I cant. I will alway support them and when they want to yell at me in 10 years for everything and shut me out. I will get it. Because yeah. F**k man. I’ll keep trying and I’ve had them in therapy. And I’m in therapy and I’m learning. But yeah. I was to young and didn’t know enough. I chose their sperm contributions badly.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You were a victim, and it is not your fault that things turned out this way. I am proud of you for actively trying to make your children's lives better, so they don't suffer like you did! Hang on!

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Mothers Explain Why They Regret Having Kids In 30 Honest Posts I have two kids, well, now, they're legally adults but mentally they are still 2 years old. They are autistic, developmentally delayed, and have mental disorders to boot. I have gotten zero help from the state, trying to navigate this world is a nightmare. It doesn't help that the whole world is severely under prepared for an aging population, much less an aging disabled population.
I regretted having them the second I found out that they wouldn't be able to care for themselves. I'm so scared for the day that I will have to put them in a home of some sort, because the likelihood of being sexually abused goes up 7x. They won't understand why they can't be at home much less what is happening to them. If I could go back in time I would've never had kids.
None of us have any sort of life or friends. We just stay home everyday, each of us absorbed in the internet until we pass out and the next day starts again. It's horrible.

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Bored Panda reached out to Corinne Maier, a French psychoanalyst, award-winning writer and the best-selling author of multiple books including her two famous ones that encouraged readers not to have children (“No Kids: 40 Good Reasons Not to Have Children”) and to unobtrusively slack off at their corporate job (“Hello Laziness“).

“I think many women regret having children. Not all the time but at least from time to time,” Maier told us. “It used to be my case. Now my children are grown-ups, what a relief!” The author added that “for years I had been looking forward to the moment they would leave the family house and be independent.”

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Mothers Explain Why They Regret Having Kids In 30 Honest Posts What made me regret it? Finding out that everything our society tells women about pregnancy, childbirth and the challenges of raising kids is either an outright lie or totally glossed over so as not to discourage women from having children.

I was shocked to find out how many people were also knowingly complicit: doctors, nurses, older women around me, obviously religious people and men. "Sshh, don't tell them, they might change their mind." Every step of the way has been/is difficult or had/has some heavy challenge associated with it. There are no full disclosures to potential parents, even though the same parents experience of it (and ability to adapt and cope) will directly affect the child.

When I reached out to others for advice, the typical response was "Welcome to my world." What?! Really? You say you love me, but didn't actually warn me how much damage my body and life would take? "Oh, that's normal." Really? I've never seen that discussed honestly and in-depth in any documentary, informational video, or any woman's magazine. At most there is one tiny story, surrounded by lots of messages about how great it will be. This pisses me off to no end.

So, if I could go back, I would not do it. And this is coming from a mom of wonderful child. A child whom I ***have*** warned: "Having a child might ruin your lfe. Don't do it!"

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I felt like a fatten calf going to the slaughter house.

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Mothers Explain Why They Regret Having Kids In 30 Honest Posts My mental health, all my coping energy is spent on kids so my mh takes a back burner. I'm in therapy but I had them before I found out my struggles are asd/adhd related and will be lifelong. I still work every day to try to make life easier, but 1 one my boys is nonverbal autistic and one I'm sure has asd but on a similar level to me so it's harder than I ever pictured motherhood

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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

oh, that’s gotta be really hard. me and some of my other siblings are autistic, and some assortments of mental problems, but it doesn’t seem to affect my mother very badly. i hope OP will be able to get through this.

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Mothers Explain Why They Regret Having Kids In 30 Honest Posts I thought my kids would save my life. You hear those stories where your kids “give you a reason to love.” I love them whole heartedly and they are incredible. But I still wake up every morning wishing I didn’t wake up. No amount of therapy or medicine has ever changed my desire to no longer exist

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No other person should/can long lasting do this. Only you can change. Only you can fill this hole. You should love yourself. I don’t know how, and I am still on this journey myself. But if you give away control of yourself (like making love of others a key part of your self esteem) you will never know whats coming, and in the end it might not go well. I believe as a stepping stone, mutually agreed (not parent-child, but friendship or partners) it can help you crawl out of the hole, but it should never be indefinitely, as it will either destroy you or the other person involved.

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Maier recounted: “I had to push out of them who did not want to go away and I know all the tricks to get rid of big kids, I have written a book about that.” The author also said that “women pay a big price for raising children as far as money, career or freedom are concerned. Let’s not forget that they still do 70% of the housework.”

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I was a mother of three. The things that are often mentioned about lack of sleep, autonomy, money etc. are all valid. And they last much, much longer than you expect and they can drive you to near suicide at times. Especially when the second comes along and you're still not getting nearly enough sleep but now you have two on completely different schedules. But they do end, eventually.

But, and this is a big but, my biggest regret is my youngest, because she died at age 6. She had a brain tumour which made her blind and adversely affected her behaviour and she consumed my time and energy completely. Her loss nearly destroyed our family. I would not know the pain that I still feel if she had not been born, and I would not experience the guilt of feeling that things, on a practical level anyway, are now easier without her.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am so sorry for the profound loss of your daughter. I can't begin to imagine your pain. ❤️

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Mothers Explain Why They Regret Having Kids In 30 Honest Posts As much as I don’t like admitting this, I regret having my second child (she’s currently 9 months). I love her little face and she can be the cutest, but I was free (my oldest is 15). I got to the point where I didn’t have to do much. My teen is independent and we were slowly transitioning to a friends(ish) type of relationship. Now, I’m starting back at the beginning and I’m all alone again, because my partner works so much. There’s not a day that goes by where I don’t say “I hate my life” at least once. The really sucky part is I’m about to go back to work, so on top of being the primary caregiver/homemaker, I’m going to work 40 hours a week. I’m 42 so I’ll be in my 50s before this one is truly independent. I’m trapped and there’s nothing I can do but grin and bear it, and hope I don’t have a nervous breakdown.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If you work 40h you cannot be a homemaker. He needs to step up now

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Mothers Explain Why They Regret Having Kids In 30 Honest Posts I really do sometimes enjoy my son.

But, having him has tied me to an abuser for the next 14.5 years. He still gets to abuse me.

And sometimes I just need quiet time that I can’t get.

I can’t move. I have a relationship that’s long distance and I want to move in with him. I want to leave my state regardless.

But since I have this kid - I can’t.

Coping? I’m ignoring the problem and hoping I don’t come to resent my son.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This one is hard. At least in my country children have a right to their parents (not the other way around though) so even if you leave your abusive partner you have to co-parent with them as long as they have custody or visitation. Many, especially women, struggle with these type of situations and many stay in an abusive relationship because at least they will be able to protect their children etc.

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Moreover, Maier argues that society is very severe towards women who say they regret having children. “It is not something that is accepted. So nobody dares to say it. A lot of women even reject the thought - it is a shame not to be soooo happy all the time with your child.”

“Women are supposed to be delighted to give birth and take care of a small child, even if it is very boring, especially for educated and emancipated women who are used to doing interesting things in their lives (friends, culture, meaningful work...),” the psychoanalyst explained.

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Mothers Explain Why They Regret Having Kids In 30 Honest Posts I love my son, who is 4 next month. I love him so very much.

But I regret having him because I like sleep too much, and days like today where he wakes up at 4am and then doesn't sleep again until 8pm because he doesn't nap anymore... Days when all he does is scream and cry at me. He gets his impatience from me, his anger from me, his sensitivity from me, his attitude from me... He's a perfect reflection of myself and I HATE it. I had a confusing childhood when I was growing up, and it's mentally scarred me so badly that the only way I "remember' my childhood is from my mum telling me her memories of it.

Of course, he makes me laugh too! Children are the funniest people on the planet. He gives nice cuddles, he's sweet when he's not screaming, he's kind, he shares well, he kisses me on the cheek, comforts me when I'm sad...

But I regret having him because I am not going to be the mother he deserves, ever. I'm on anti-depressants but no amount of therapy can actually help me. I feel lost.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Therapy isn't there to "fix" you. It's there to help you navigate your complex self so you can "fix" yourSelf. And you can do it. The first step is to start believing that you can. Every time you have a negative thought that says "I can't,"... you override that with a thought that says, "I can". It takes perseverance... but, like anything, with practice...I think you'll find it get easier. And the negative thoughts become diminished.

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Mothers Explain Why They Regret Having Kids In 30 Honest Posts When my daughter turned 17 and stopped speaking to me I regretted putting her first her entire life. I think if I was wealthy she’d pretend to care about me now (she’s early 20s). But I’m not, so I’m worthless to her. I derailed my entire life for her. Her dad wanted to abort her and I made her entire life possible. And I thought I made it as good as I could. But whatever it was she needed was not something I could give, which isn’t her fault but her behavior now is. I don’t feel like I even got a chance with her.

I cope by thinking about her in the past tense, making peace with her being gone. Whoever she is now is a stranger to me. I haven’t seen her in years.

It’s not a good feeling. I have a step kid who still visits and my son loves me so I guess that’s a lot more than most people get and I value them so much. I try to focus on them.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Genuine question, but I have trouble believing wealth is the only reason your daughter stopped talking to you. Not to be hurtful but what is her side of the story? What is her reason for cutting ties?

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I read it that she is saying her daughter would be around if she was wealthy as she'd hope to benefit from it. This one is hard to be sure about - the son loves her, her step child appears to care so how bad can she be? Though she could have got it wrong with the daughter. Sometimes parents have children who aren't great people and sometimes parents do a bad job. Most of the time it's a mix and this might well be six of one and half a dozen of another.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This sounds too much to "I birthed you, you are alive because of me so you own me your love". There are plenty of valid reasons to not speak to a mother

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As someone that has had to cut a toxic parent out of her life, it was not something I did lightly. I did it so that I could survive and be happy in my life without her manipulation and trauma. I am in therapy to deal with the childhood trauma. We don’t do it lightly so although I am biased - I can’t help reading the victim perspective of my mother in this post and wondering what the daughter went through

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That's the thing isn't it? We all read these with our own experiences running through our heads and colouring our reactions. Why would a child cut off a parent? I'd be like you and probably wonder what the parent has done. Yet a friend I've known all my life doesn't see one of their children anymore, ties cut by them. The child went off the rails quite badly. Drugs, alcohol, a debauched life tbh. They stole from their parents, dwindling friends and it was a mess. Yet the parents tried to help/be supportive. May or may not have done some of it awkwardly (I wasn't there for all of it) but their child has blamed them for everything. The other four children don't and feel it's very much their sibling at fault. It's a shame we can't hear the other side really so that we could understand it better.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

this is mostly about the mother being the reason the child is alive. The kid is an entity of itself. I don't think the mother can see the daughter as an independent human. It's all about her and her sacrifices.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wow. I read some of the responses and.....just wow! Not all were so judgmental, but a lot were. Sometimes it's hard to put a real, painful, difficult story out there. I would have expected more compassion. Yes there are crappy mothers out there, but just that she was willing to post this and tell others says a lot toward this not being the case. That's just my opinion.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The difference between this post and others is that the parent is blaming the child for her regret, other parents are blaming themselves. This lady is selfish and entitled 'I gave you life. I raised you and put you before me, now you need to repay me". I have no sympathy for her.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

“ I regretted putting her first her entire life.” - “I derailed my entire life for her.” - aren’t you SUPPOSED to put your kids first? (Within reason, one should take care of one’s physical and mental health). But… you chose to keep your daughter, lady. That’s what you signed up for.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As you say 'within reason'. One day they leave home and parents need to be able to lead a life with often very little input from their sons and daughters later on. Not because they don't care but people are often very busy with their own lives (and sometimes they don't care!). That aside says she regretted once she got cut off. So that implies she didn't have regrets with the child until this point. Why was she cut off? C**p mother? Possibly. Maybe she only thinks she put her daughter first and didn't. There is also the possibility that the daughter is bloody awful - someone has to give birth to the crappy people and it is not always the fault of their upbringing. My sister and I had the same childhood (if anything she was the favourite) and yet she is, um.. really not a great human. Let's word it like that!! It does happen. I'm playing devil's advocate though. Chances are the mother is less innocent of why it went wrong than she believes.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I agree with the other 3 comments before me. There is a reason as to why a child turns away from their parent. My mother has a narcissistic disorder, has been gaslighting me all my live and said very terrible things to me. She denies it all. When I finally started getting better a few years ago (was severely depressed all my life) she told me "you were such a nice girl before" - because she could not manipulate me as easily anymore. So after years of trying I stopped all contact 2 years ago - I finally get to feel happy and start to learn who I am without anyone telling me other (terrible) things. My mum tells others that I have a mental disorder and delusions, she "prays for me to finally get the therapy I need" - "she did everything for me but I'm just so ungrateful" etc. So... yeah, I think there must be more to Ops story.

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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have experience surviving and confronting.Sometimes young people who have been physically or emotionally abused in childhood need time away from the situation to realize what they grew up in. Then comes the anger and what seems like permanent separation between the parent and the child. How the parent reacts to this can help heal or further fracture that relationship. Denial won't help. Listening and validating, if possible, can help. Even when a parent cannot see the damage they caused, a child may be willing to forgive in time. There is still hope.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I cut my toxic af mother out of my life two years ago and I know that she says this sort of thing about me all the time. The reality is, no amount of money or "love" is worth my sanity or mental health. If your child has cut you out of their life and you do not do at least some bit of self reflection then it seems obvious that you are (at least in part) the problem.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There are always two sides(or more) to every story. However, if neither side is really to blame or both sides are equally to blame, there's still hope. When the daughter gets older and wiser, she may reach out then to try to mend things. Hopefully, the parent will be wise enough not to make it toxic.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Most kids peel away from their parents in their early 20's. It's a healthy sign of independence and self assuredness. If there's genuine love between you, you'll see her come around again in a few years.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Strange reading the juxtaposition of step child and son loving their mother and a daughter who stopped even talking to her. Have the other two children or at least the son not "derailed" OP's life? Did the mother only put their daughter first for 2 decades? What about other 2 children? Were they not loved as much in the meanwhile? While it's true there are "bad children", OP doesn't write one positive thing about their daughter, painting her the evil thankless child. Perhaps both are better off without the other

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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It sounds like narcissist playing a victim, if I am being honest. (speaking about mother)

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10 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why is it that I have the distinct image of this woman brutally reminding her daughter that her dad didn't even want her and she's lucky to be alive. Because of the OP

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm with you. My older daughter seems to have made something awful up about me and her siblings side with her. When asked if they still want to be in the will, guess what? Yeah! We can't help what they bring to this planet with them. Good luck!

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is common teen behavior. Hurtful, yes, but there is plenty of evidence that, unless actual abuse is involved, her attitude toward mom may soften as she matures through her twenties. Perhaps some counseling would help mom come to terms with the fact that the only person we can control is ourselves, and that sometimes our kids will not turn out the way we hoped.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This sound like a soapy story my mother is talking about me, ohh how good she was, ohh how much she sacrificed - all manipulating lies for people to feel sad for her. She somehow always forgets to mention how she;d beaten me, abouse me, scrape every bit of my privacy... but yeah, she was the good guy in her eyes. In my country also a good parent, because not an alcoholic. I cut ties, never looked back, 20 years this year.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

2 I've tried apologizing for whatever it is I am supposed to have done to no avail. She disconnected her cell phone & I am not allowed to have her new number. She blocked me on Facebook. We moved to Oregon recently, so I sent her her "baby box" and some family photos. I included a card and asked her if she would like the emerald engagement ring her father gave me. No response. I sent her my box of (very nice) Easter ornaments & decorations with another card. No response. I just have to accept the fact that she doesn't want a relationship with me - which stuns everyone in my family, who all know how much giving I had done for her and the girls. Was I perfect? Of course not. But did I make sure she knew how much I loved and valued her? Absolutely.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

1/2 I can totally relate to this one. My daughter is now 32 and stopped speaking to me about 5 years ago, after years of being incredibly close. She hung out at my house all the time. I babysat my granddaughter (her oldest, she has 3 girls now) almost every weekend from the time she was about 6 weeks until she was over 4. I constantly gave her money, food and home goods (toilet paper, etc). I was the one she called at 3am when her boyfriend was being abusive. My (then bf, now husband) got a job offer in San Diego, so we moved. Daughter & I Skyped all the time. I'm still not really sure what happened, but apparently every bad decision she's ever made is somehow my fault. Pregnant at 15 - all me. Lousy choices in men - all me. Never enough money - all me. The bottom line is she felt abandoned when we moved and told my husband (via email) what a monster I was when she was growing up. He knows this isn't true because he was around us for several years before we moved.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I know how it hurts. I have one son who is wonderful, and another who has nothing to do with me and I don't know why. He moved with my DIL and two grandkids without telling me where they went, he wiped his socials so I can't contact him that way and will not take my phone calls or messages. I really want to know why, when we had parted on good terms the last time I saw them.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am going to give this lady the benefit of the doubt because I have seen this thing first hand. Girl I went to high school with did this. We were neighbors, I was at her house all the time. Her parents were normal, albeit very goofy, parents. We were all struggling and lived in a trailer park in the south. Probably not what you are picturing. Nice little yards, clean places, a playground. But no one there was running the world. If I remember correctly, her mom was a "care assistant" at a home for older folks, and her dad worked various unskilled construction labor. They were nice people who made dinner for my grandparents, (I stayed with them), when they got the flu. When we headed off in different directions I lost track of her till about 10ish years after HS. Asked about her parents and her whole face crinkled. Turns out she didn't want anyone in her world, (she was a paralegal dating a lawyer), to know she had once lived in a trailer park.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Kids don't stop talking to their parents for no reason. I do not have any interaction with my mother because she is racist and ignored the fact my sister was raped when she was 12 after getting kicked out of our house by my mother's alcoholic, abusive husband. My mother devoted much of her life to me, and there is not one person on this earth I hate more and think so little of. I feel I am justified because my mother may have loved me but she is a terrible person who only loved me because I was the only one young enough and dumb enough to love her back when I was a kid.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm sorry OP, but your daughter didn't ask you to sacrifice your life for her. She didn't demand that you make her life possible and she doesn't owe you anything for the choices YOU made. I am genuinely sorry that your relationship is broken but perhaps if you feel her values are wrong you should have a genuine look at your role - these things are rarely one sided. This post is why we should stop demanding mothers sacrifice their entire lives for their children... it creates martyrs and guilts children.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Its a red flag for m when adult children cut their parents off. I feel you are blaming her and lacking responsibility

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There has to been more to this story for sure….. no way is your daughter not talking to you because of wealth….

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'd love to hear your daughters side of the story. I've gone NC with my sperm donor over a decade ago. If someone were to ask him, I'm the unappreciative daughter who cant find a happy medium and be kinder to him, in reality; he broke literally EVERY promise hes ever made, lied to me and my mother, ignored my sister and I. He was sexist, and emotionally neglectful. There is always 2 sides to a story.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is a difficult one because people generally don't cut contact with their family without good reason.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I grew up emotionally neglected. My parents weren't bad people and I'm sure they tried their best but apparently similar to your daughter, it was not what I needed and the contact with my parents is now very saddening and hurtful for me, simply because it brings back this feeling of being unloved. My parents also never understood my position and I'm tired of talking against a wall. Thus, I've broken up contact with my father and have only very limited one with my mother. Next to my depression and diabetes I just have no energy to deal with this additional burden though my parents likely feel similar to you. I'm pretty sure she has her reasons for her behaviour.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah there is no way a kid would go no contact with a mother who wasn't abusive or a narcissist or both. The op might need to take a good look in the mirror.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

DBT therapy could really help you unpack your relationship with your daughter and how to go about fixing it.

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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So what was the reason the daughter stopped talking? Because the mom wasn't useful?

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I odd in that I have grandchildren without ever having had children. I married a woman with two grown children (17 & 21) and now I'm a grandfather of 3 granddaughters.

Witnessing what I have as a grandfather has made my decision to have a vasectomy at 27 the single best one of my entire life. I am waaaaay to selfish with my time and money, and it would have totally ruined my marriage to have kids of our own.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

These are the reasons I give people when they rudely ask why I don’t have children. Now, at 44, I’m sitting in the doctor’s office waiting to schedule a hysterectomy. Should have done it at 27….but thankful because certain people shouldn’t breed and I’m one of them.

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I didn't realize that a maternal instinct is not universal. You know how you see parents in the delivery room and they are crying tears of joy? I felt nothing. Honestly, I could have left them at the hospital and it wouldn't have bothered me. I usually have no desire to spend time with them at all. I love them and have a strong sense of duty I just don't enjoy them or want to do any of the things they do. However I spent their whole lives going out of my way to care for them in every way a good mother should. My boys are well cared for and I am always here for them, but it feels very unnatural and fake and unenjoyable. It is a bit like a retail job you don't like where you put on a fake persona and slog through it the best you can. I don't get to leave this job, though. The worst is how I'm demonized for it. I've done eveverything I can for them for 16 years including all the extra curriculars (kids baseball is agonizing to fake enjoy I swear) and it has never been easy. Shouldn't I get more credit than those moms who love nothing more than spending time with their kids? That doesn't sound hard to me. Nope..I fail because I want my own life.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I wonder how that person's life is in other regards. Not feeling joy for your newborn baby could be symptom of a postpartum depression that was never discovered and treated. It happens if you are not very catious... If that person cannot feel much joy about other things that happens in life, but manages to do it anyway, it could be high functioning depression. Things may appear fine on the outside, however if you manage to "look under the hood" you will see a completely different picture, however people are rarely allowed to get that close.

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We also spoke with a mother, u/zuklei, who shared her story in response to this thread. She wrote: “I really do sometimes enjoy my son. But, having him has tied me to an abuser for the next 14.5 years. He still gets to abuse me.” The woman told us that she still has PTSD from domestic violence and wasn’t diagnosed with ADHD until 39.

“Having a child ties me to my abuser until the abuser dies, my son is 18, or I somehow convince the court that 50/50 isn’t best for my son,” she said. “I can’t unwind when I have my son. He’s sweet and lovable but I don’t want to be around him. He demands I play games with him and really, it’s just him ordering me around and treating me like his dad did,” the woman shared.

She added that sadly, she’s beginning to resent him for losing quiet time and for keeping her chained to his father. “I'm going to end up being a bad parent if I’m not already,” she concluded in a heartbreaking statement.

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I can pretty much echo everyone else's responses. It's even harder when you're a strong introvert. It's driven me into on again/off again depression. I've been on medication since our first one was born. The 2nd one was a stupid mistake (plan B also didn't work). I've since got a vasectomy, although I should've gotten one after the 1st was born. Stuck with an infant and a toddler now. I'm also a father who stays at home, so that comes with its own societal bullshit. I've been shopping at Target with my kid by myself and gotten comments like "It's just weird seeing a dad doing the shopping." Go f**k yourself.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

See fathers out with their children all the time - in shops, playgrounds, at the sea, taking them to school and back. Seems weird that people think anything of it these days. I'm often chatting to parents because their little ones want to pet my dogs. These days I swear I see near enough equal numbers of mums to dads outside of working hours (more mums during Monday to Friday still but I do know a few SATDs). Never occurred to me that this was considered unusual anymore.

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Mothers Explain Why They Regret Having Kids In 30 Honest Posts Gave up my autonomy for the child, who grew up autistic and now has purged me from her life at age 25

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This one desperately needs more context. No adult child would suddenly cut ties with their family for no reason. There is always a reason, and being frugal with words while trying to get sympathy is absolutely a red flag.

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Mothers Explain Why They Regret Having Kids In 30 Honest Posts I regret being part of generational trauma where the hurts hang ups and hangups of one generation damage the next generation. I was damaged by my parents. I was not able to talk it out with my parents and feel forgiveness for them and move on. My hurts hang ups and habits caused me to pick a troubled husband with infertility issues. We had children after many trials and much expense and divorced when they were of age. . One grown child has several mental health issues, does not work, and is hard to talk to. I love that child deeply. The other grown child has detached from me and the other family members.i love that child so much. As a divorced woman I realized my regrets especially on holidays. My ex and I worked so hard and sacrificed so much so the kids could have love and braces and education, activities, health care and trips and all of it, but now I spend holidays alone. The kids don't seem happy. They don't want to get together with me. No one says I love you to me. No hugs or feelings like it was all worth it.

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Because kids aren't the life completer we believe they are. Actually they take away from your quality of life daily. My kids are 13 and 11 and they STILL mess up my daily life. Worst of all is I love them so much I couldn't do without them even though they disturb my peace all the time. I do not reccomend having children. Maybe one but not necessary. We perpetuate the species needlessly.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wow. This is an eye opener. It shows how personal some things are to people...and all advice may not be the right advice for every person. If I did not have kids and took this advice...my life would be SO different. I am 100% the total and complete opposite of this commenter. My kid has INCREASED the quality of my life so much, that no matter what they "messed up" in regards to life quality, it pales in comparison. I have learned so much from her and because of her and enjoyed it immensely. I would have experienced NONE of that if I had taken the advice of folks like this poster. She is not wrong, and her opinion is just as valid as any other mothers'...but it opened my eyes to how the same act can be so different and mean completely different things to various people.

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Mothers Explain Why They Regret Having Kids In 30 Honest Posts All you need is a special needs kid to think something along the lines of "I wouldn't want him to die or anything, but if I could go back to before he was conceived I'd do things differently."

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I’ve never understood why some people are against in utero genetic testing. Wouldn’t you want to know if you were likely going to have a special needs child so you can prepare or decide to abort?

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Mothers Explain Why They Regret Having Kids In 30 Honest Posts I have a preschooler.

Things I don’t like: can’t go anywhere alone. Can’t have quiet time to myself unless they’re sleeping. Always being touched. Always being asked to do things that they can’t do on their own. Having to do daily care tasks for them like bathing & making meals. Always worried they’re going to do something bad when I’m not looking & get hurt. Not being able to move because I don’t have family or friends to help. I only have their dad & his family.

Things I do like: their laugh. Cuddles at bed time. Experiencing their imagination. Sharing funny things together. Hearing about their day. Hugs. Teaching them how to be a good person. Imagining how they’ll be as they get older.

I regret having a kid and I realized it once I became single and had to do these things on my own. I couldn’t leave them with the dad anymore. I’m just waiting it out and hoping it gets better once they’re able to be home alone for a couple hours.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"Always being touched" is a big one not many people mention. I'm sure it's incredibly exhausting and overstimulating when you're already tired, already stretched too thin, and the touches and attention this little person requires just keeps sending you into sensory overload. That's yet another one on my list of reasons why I won't have kids.

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Mothers Explain Why They Regret Having Kids In 30 Honest Posts I regret having my son more than I don’t. I love him. I want to not regret having him. However, I have anxiety, depression and ADHD. I cannot multitask, I don’t deal well with loud noises or lots of different noises at once, I’ve always struggled if I get less than 8 hours sleep, and I constantly second guess my decisions as a parent. I’m an exclusively single mother, so no back-up/second parent. I’m exhausted most days.

So how I cope- I’m in therapy weekly, I try to raise my son to be independent (instead of always reliant on me), I tell my son when I need quiet time and I try to take it maybe an hour a day on weekends. I have a babysitter come once a week so i have a night to myself. (I’m an introvert so I don’t need to always go out with others, but need time to myself.) My therapist mentioned focusing on little positive things. I struggle to understand the phrase “children are a blessing” so my therapist works with me on finding little moments that are positive and celebrating those instead of focusing on the overarching big negative things. I also try not to worry about the future (mine, my sons, how he will do in life) because focusing on this isn’t helpful. It isn’t perfect and every day is still hard, but I think I’m moving towards a happier place.

ETA: it’s probably also relevant that my work profession has one of the highest suicide rates and is also very mentally draining. I love what I do and feel that I am good at it, but it is grueling.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I’m sorry for what this poster is dealing with but so impressed with the coping skills and mitigations. This parent is absolutely killing it and should be so proud of how hard they are working to look after themselves and their child. Im sorry they’re struggling but this post is a great example of a self aware and caring parent.

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Mothers Explain Why They Regret Having Kids In 30 Honest Posts Honestly, I'm not a good mother. I'm not as abusive as my own, but I still didn't have the tools and knowledge needed to be a good parent. I was 16, and though I tried, I simply fell very short and became an alcoholic. My kids have dealt with a lot from me the past 3-4 years so I'm just trying to give them thier space and live their lives, while I continue to struggle with mine. I love them, they are incredible human beings, but if I'd been older maybe I'd have done better. I can't remove the trauma I've inflicted on them, but hopefully I can stop making it. I fear so much them having their own (all cis daughter's, as far as I know.) Will I also be a disappointment as a grandmother? Will they let me in my grandchildren's lives? Do I want to be? As well as the anxiety I have as a millennial? Is it even wise for them to have children? Wait do they thank that and then wont? Will there even be a future for them? My girls have all made it to "adulthood" without becoming pregnant, and I'm morbidly proud of that. First generation non teen moms. Sorry this question triggered me a bit, I miss them on this holiday, and I've been drinking. But that's the truth, I regret so much, but not their existence.

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Mothers Explain Why They Regret Having Kids In 30 Honest Posts I wasn't ready to stop being selfish. I'm only two years in so it's still the intense stage, but parenting so far has just been relentlessly exhausting. I feel like having a kid closed off a lot of possibilities for me, definitely killed any semblance of spontaneity in my life.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Mines nearly 7 and it gets so much better. I’m obsessed with him and miss him when he’s at school. On the flip side. So much talking.

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Mothers Explain Why They Regret Having Kids In 30 Honest Posts Two friends of mine had a kid together. This is exactly what they told me. Nothing spontanious happens anymore, everything has to be planned and as a result of that, they are never invited to anything anymore, because they cant come anyway. Now that I type this I realise I am having a BBQ with my (other) friends tonight and didnt even bother to invite them (out of politness) because I know they cant make it anyway

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't think that it's polite to exclude them on the presumption that they can't make it.

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Mothers Explain Why They Regret Having Kids In 30 Honest Posts I had a miscarriage after an accidental pregnancy at 16 and was so depressed for a year, me and my boyfriend (at the time, now husband) decided to try for another one. I am still thinking wtf was I thinking!? I love love love my son (now 5) and my daughter who’s turning 2 in the summer but oh my god I should have waited. I missed out on a lot and my teenage brain thought it would be easy or something. In the back of my mind I knew it would be hard but I thought it couldn’t be that hard. I also struggle with many mental health issues which do not help; anxiety, depression, ptsd, add, autism and so it is a struggle!! Especially with very active kids I would love to just sleep all day again like the summer when I was 15, it was probably the last time I was mostly mentally ok and felt free. I still dream about it a lot, I think it may be an escape from the stress and guilt of having my babies before I was ready to be a mama. I still try my hardest to give them a better childhood than I had though. Also I was 115 pounds when I got pregnant with my first after my second I am now 201 and it’s so uncomfortable and makes me not want to leave my house. I’ve always been able to lose weight quick but something about my second pregnancy made my body stop losing weight. I still do everything I did before she was born and it feels impossible. There should be better sex Ed in America.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There was better sex ed in America and there can be again. Don't wait for politicians (from school boards to legislatures) to make this possible. Give yourself a purpose for the future - educating other adolescent, young and dreamy women about reality. In the USofA, women must once again rise up and, not only demand better education and care, but provide it!

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Mothers Explain Why They Regret Having Kids In 30 Honest Posts Destroyed marriage via:

Forget passionate love make (it becomes a chore) when kids start walking

The things you did together, you can no longer do, together, or very rarely

The things you enjoyed individually, can not be replicated either

Forget unwind time, personal space, etc...

Over years people change, and nothing accelerates change as having another depend being (or three).

That's for the marriage bit.

Then there's work/life balance which goes out the f**king door. The stress at work, and the increasing stress of job market, you do not have the luxury of coming come to dissipate. What happens is that you come home after a nasty, stressful day, and the stress is COMPOUNDED with home/kids problems. Have that for years...

I love my kids, I'd STILL have them, but there are sacrifices people are not prepared for. I've seen marriages destroyed, homes destroyed, I've seen mental breakdowns, drugs usage, etc...

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah, kids don't necessarily make a marriage stronger. The roughest patch that my wife and I had was after our son was born.

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Mothers Explain Why They Regret Having Kids In 30 Honest Posts I love my daughter so much.

But I'm not a good mother. I have so many of my own problems -- fibromyalgia, C-PTSD, can barely work, no degree and certainly no real career -- and she has so many of her own -- ADHD and oppositional defiance disorder, and probably autism too -- that raising her is so very difficult. I'm at my wit's end just trying to do baseline stuff, like work and clean the house and cook, and then add on all of our appointments and the fact that just talking to her can be an ordeal, never mind parenting her.

I have no idea how I can raise her to be a functioning adult, and let alone survive raising her. This week itself has already been a nightmare, an utter, utter nightmare. My depression and anxiety have gotten severe again, so much that my s*icid*l ideation is back (I was discharged from therapy in 2020 because I was coping so well, and now I'm not again).

That's not even counting the fact that it's a terrible time in history to have kids. I don't even know what her world is going to look like when she graduates from high school in ten years.

I love kids and babies, and I wanted a big family. I'm dying on the inside that my brother is having a baby with his wife and I shouldn't/won't/can't have one with my fiance (not my daughter's bio dad, which was an abusive POS). I'm grieving over what life has taken from me in so many ways, and I'm just struggling to survive at this point.

*sighs*

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

mental illness runs in fammilies. So if you have some kind of mental illness that you are suffering from, why would you force the same kind of suffering onto another human being, and having to cope with double the trouble? I think the world would be a better place if more people did some critical evaluation of exactly what it would be that they are creating, before breeding. We do not breed on the worst performing animals, and the same should to some extend also go for humans, where we should not let our own selfish needs should not trumph the wellbeing of another person we can create and form. (said by er person who has chosen to remain childless as he has deemed his own genes unsuitable for propergation)

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Mothers Explain Why They Regret Having Kids In 30 Honest Posts My daughter was born mentally disabled. I alway tell myself it could be worse, that there are kids who just shake back and forth in wheelchairs... thing is she is happy now but has no concept of death and I can only imagine what it will be like when her mother and I are gone. She will be institutialized and abused probably.

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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ideally you should sort out the home she'll need before you both die. Don't let it happen to her after the last one of you dies. Do it early enough and gradually so she gets used to it. Prevents it being so much more of a shock when she loses her parents and gets placed in a home. Also then you can monitor and make sure she is happy. Appoint guardians who will do this after your death if you can.

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Mothers Explain Why They Regret Having Kids In 30 Honest Posts I am struggling with constant anxiety and stress from work spilling over into my few hours at home and making us all miserable. My boys are at the age where they are ruining EVERYTHING in the house I rent. It’s going to cost me thousands to repair it before we move.
We don’t struggle for money, but only because I work constantly. I put way to much responsibility on my oldest daughter despite having a full time nanny. I feel like I’m losing control of everything, and a deep depression is setting in. Constantly fighting thoughts of just giving up.

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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"Boys at an age where they are ruining everything" - sounds more like can't cope with parenting them and putting in the time and effort required to stop it (working full time makes that hard!). Children can be destructive but you can't just let them get on with it unfortunately. Though you have a full time nanny as well? Why aren't they stopping it? Clearly she needs help with the depression and maybe a tougher nanny!! Feel sorry for the oldest daughter as well.

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They spend all your resources. Eat all your food. Loud as f**k all the time. Having a child costs a lot of money. You can't just do what you want anymore, you need permission from who ever is going to watch your child.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sounds like you didn't overthink having a kid AT ALL! Don't blame a kid for having to eat and needing a bit of attention....

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Gave up my everything for the child/ren. Had a horror show up when the youngest was about 7 and there was a judgement against a father for leaving his kids home alone and they were under 12. I remember being a latchkey from 7 on and was left for hours. I was planning on going looking for work when the oldest turned 12. When that came in, I realized that of the two of us, I was the one responsible for being there at home for the kids, not him, because children's services was on a rampage to get parents to comply to their insane demands. I had to stay at home because the eldest was not reliable and I couldn't leave the younger ones alone for 20 minutes.

I regret because I stopped doing art. Crafting, sure. Art was put behind me. The worst part about it is that I know my ex husband threw out my big black sketchbook that I started when I was 17.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This one makes me uncomfortable. "Children's services was on a rampage to get parents to comply with their insane demands" and "I had to stay at home because the eldest was not reliable and I couldn't leave the younger ones alone for 20 minutes." Just because you were on a latchkey from 7 and left for hours doesn't make it okay to do this to your children. Plus, why should the eldest be doing your parenting for you? Why do you think the demands were insane? Sounds more to me like they were reasonable demands she didn't like (eg BE THERE for the children). I know these services sometimes get it wrong but generally speaking they're trying to do right by the children. I could be wrong but most of the mistakes we read about are when social workers have ignored red flags, believed stories by neglectful or abusive parents and not investigated enough. I am happy to be corrected if I have misread and misunderstood (it is a muddled story).

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