Man Perfectly Explains Women’s Rage Today Using Brutal Analogy So That All Men Can Finally Understand It
Author A.R. Moxon has recently invited all men to participate in an exercise of empathy. He reframed women’s experiences with violence and sexual assault and presented it in a way that most guys should comprehend… getting kicked in the nuts. At first, it sounds silly, but it doesn’t after you read the whole thing.
“Speaking on the societally-macro level, empathy has been largely a one-way street when it comes to gender roles and dynamics,” Moxon told Bored Panda. “In my experience, women are empathetic toward men, while men tend not to be particularly empathetic toward women.”
“Put another way, women have to think about what men are feeling as a matter of survival. Men aren’t in a similar situation, and so, if they don’t want to, they don’t. And, by and large, we don’t want to.”
“When women tell their stories of living with danger and vulnerability in abusive relationships and of survival from assault, our first instinct appears to be to protect ourselves from personal culpability and accountability; we certainly saw that dynamic play out as the Kavanaugh story developed.”
Moxon said that his analogy – like any other – is imperfect, and he has received a lot of feedback since he hit “send.” Positive and negative. “I chose nut-kicking because there isn’t a man alive that doesn’t understand exactly what a nut-shot is, and, with very few exceptions, none who would ever want it or seek it out or go out ‘asking’ for it,” he explained. “Most importantly, no man confuses getting kicked in the nuts with sex. It’s very clearly violence, even though it involves sex organs. The idea of growing up in a society where getting hoofed in the balls is normalized behavior, systematically if tacitly allowed by a complicit society, and frequently confused with a pleasurable activity like sex, would rightfully be horrifying to any guy.”
And he couldn’t have come up with it at a better time. As Judge Brett Kavanaugh has just been confirmed to the US Supreme Court, the world has been hit by a huge wave of anger and protest, highlighting the problems that surround sexual abuse, assault and other social issues around it.
“I can’t imagine women’s rage today,” Moxon wrote. “But this exercise, while abstract, helped me get nearer to it than I’d been.”
“The Kavanaugh confirmation proves once again that one of the primary drivers of our society right now is normalized abuse and enablement of abuse,” Moxon added. “In such a society, the telling of wrong is itself seen as the wrong. It’s unutterably sad. It’s why the country has a bully with the mind of a cruel child as president, supported by power, cheered by crowds.”
“I think you can see, if you want to, that there is a powerful political party that doesn’t care about women at all, and thinks not caring is good. I dare hope more of us see this clearly now than we did before.”
Continue scrolling to read the analogy and tell us your thoughts in the comments!
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As Judge Brett Kavanaugh has just been confirmed to the US Supreme Court, the world has been hit by a huge wave of anger and protest, regarding sexual abuse and assault
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So author A.R.Moxon described the situation in a way all men could understand
Here’s how the people responded
I once had to explain to a male acquaintance that rape hurts even fi you don't fight back and get punched. He was utterly clueless tha a penis could harm a vagina. Had advanced degrees, etc., but didn't realize that you can be lying there in shock and terror, utterly still, and it will STILL HURT LIKE HELL... And not just emotionally. Gobsmacking stupidity out there.
I don't think he is aiming it at all men. But rather, men who lack that basic respect for women and their bodies. Women are not toys to be used and discarded.
@Whatevers not taken and @Rebecca Lipps - Sometimes it’s both. More often it’s about power, because the person is trying to show dominance over the victim, like with chickens and other animals, when the male is trying to get on top of the female. Other times it may be about sex, if the male/female wants to have sex because he just wants to experience the pleasures of sex, and the other person doesn’t, so that’s when rape happens.
Load More Replies...I don't need to be kicked in the nuts to understand the pain causing it. Why is calling someone out on their f*****g nutkicking, a reason for others to threaten you? Because they don't believe it? Nutkickers are everywhere. You might even know one. They don't wear a sign saying "Nutkicker". They could be hiding between young kids, in church, in policestations and even your own home. Sadly but true. If someone says they were kicked in the nuts, believe them! And please do everything to protect them for it ever to happen (again).
One of the most relevant and important things I've read... no means no, not being able to give consent means no. These are attitudes and deep seated beliefs that my brothers I had been given by our mom. Boys will be boys is not a valid excuse, it's complete b******t, and I have heard trump apologists and people who I thought of as good and reasonable say that what was acceptable back them has to be taken into consideration.... this is insane because rape has never been acceptable, sexual assault and harassment have never been acceptable, not for anyone...
I can't believe the comments section on this post. How the f**k are there still people who think it's okay to take away someone's pride, to violate them, to make them believe they don't own their own body? I personally don't know one girl or woman who hasn't been harassed, and all of them have been completely changed and traumatized, including myself. I hope some day in our lifetimes we won't have to worry about being groped.
Imagine living in a world where empathy is so rare others need an explanation like this to understand rape and sexual harassment...
Radu, why do you keep trying to redirect this important conversation to education and capitalism? Does it make you that uncomfortable?
Load More Replies...It's sad that our society needs multitudes of explanations like this and others to try and explain why such a thing is such a big deal, and yet there are still those who don't give a damn. SAD. Makes me cry that people don't care about one another
I'm happy it's getting talked about. Just because we need to open discussion on the issue doesn't make it sad. Those who start to talk about it should be applauded.
Load More Replies...Yaaas. It’s sad, though, that there are so many dim-witted men that an analogy must be drawn between their testes and why not to sexually assault women. BUT! Kudos to the author, hopefully this will reach some troglodytes.
@Whatevers, I haven't laughed that hard in a while, thanks. Is your mom proud of you for your opinions?
Load More Replies...The reason these analogies need to be made is so people are aware of the results of their actions. It's not to make men who were raped feel unimportant, it's just that the sexual assault of women is something that is so common and so normalized in our society. Yes, men do get raped, and so do women, but these analogies need to be made as long as sexual assault is still a problem in our world and as long as people still blame victims and elect accused sexual harassers into the government.
Great analogy. Here's one I use. What if you're a young man about 15. You go to a party. Two drunk idiots pull you into a bedroom. They hold you down and start groping you. You are terrified. You don't know if they are going to rape you or continue to violently assault you by holding you against your will. You don't know what is going to happen. You are embarrassed, humiliated, and terrified. They are laughing and forcing themselves on you. Then you manage to get away. Do you go running off to tell someone? Who do you tell? Who will believe you? Then you find out years later that one of these violators is going to be sworn into the highest legal positions. Would you come forward? Would you come forward and put your horrible experience in front of the world, only to be mocked by the highest position in your country? Wow! I told my truth in one of the threads. A male responded with "shame on you" because I didn't tell anyone 46 years ago. He just didn't get it!!
Wow. I'm female but even so I'm dumbfounded. This is so powerfull. Its the norm we live in. But seeing it from this somewhat "ridiculous" perspective is eye opening. We take it somewhat for granted that life is like this for women. We don't even see anymore how horrible it really is.
you're sick and disgusting Matt Myers. And take that maple leaf off--you're a shame to your country and Mike Myers.
Load More Replies...Yes. Men are raped. Usually by other men. WHY DOES THERE ALWAYS HAVE TO BE THAT ONE PERSON. They're like the neighborhood idiot when there's a house fire, pointing out that the doghouse is on fire too, and that the owner set that fire.
I grew up taught that it was fine to allow men to ogle me as a young girl. Just smile and be nice. Don't cover up, don't change your attitude, just let it happen. You might upset the man. - This was taught to me the way my father treated women, my mother and my sister & I. I wonder if my dad read this, would it put things in a different perspective for him?
Hmm - it is awfull thas us (once young)young girls need to get together and discuss this
Load More Replies...Brilliant comparison, sir. As an assault survivor, I can tell you, this is spot on.
Call it what it is..'Rape Culture' Those who defend it, those who ignore it, those who deflect. Let's say it starts at the top: Those elected to the highest positions in the land and are not held accountable. Women and men defend them. It's a culture where rape is seen and not taken seriously. I've seen many try and soften the term. I don't think it deserves compassion.
Imagine that the best solution anyone had tried to come up with so far was for men to travel in groups, during daylight, wearing flat shoes so they could run, with keys. between your fingers, or to cover up any sign of being male in case it provoked somebody to kick him, but on absolutely no account to treat any woman as a potential but kicker because it would hurt her feelings.
one part he forgot. At the same time as you are constantly protecting your balls from being kicked, you are told that they are the one feature you have which makes you attractive, and will bring you long lasting love, so while you are protecting them with paranoia, you must also wear tight clothing so you can simultaneously display them to win love and approval and attention from the world. If your balls are not deemed attractive enough by the women around you, then anything you say is ignored because your value is nonexistant.
I would add one last entry... It still needs “and imagine that someone would write a piece where they switched the gender roles of the women who kicked men in the nuts and the men who got kicked, in order to create empathy for you, and only the men who got kicked in the nuts would read it, and the women would just all continue to ignore it, and make mocking comments and keep on laughing.”
I'd like to add to this as well. When these things happen to children, people still don't always believe their children. Let's pretend it happened to our child for a moment, however. Many of us will fight to the death for our children (I wish I could say most of us, but we all know how untrue that is, unfortunately). We go, and we fight, and it goes to trial. The guy says, "I didn't do it!" Okay, but that doesn't help me as a parent, because my kid says it happened. There's no proof, because kids don't come forward right away all the time. They don't realize the should, and they're afraid they'll get in trouble. We all know what no proof means-you can't convict. So what's the answer here? Ignore the kid, say sorry there's no proof and move on? Convict anyway without proof, even though there is a "possibility" he didn't really do anything? This is tough because we don't want to think about this happening to our kids. I assure you, it does. What is the answer? We need to figure it out.
My take on those that dismiss the Kavanaugh accusation has two angles: one, the premise that there isn't enough evidence to support the accusations, and two that he is being attacked out of a political agenda. This is interconnected, and these people are so close: theu don't seem to understand the possibility that the opposite could be true, that he is lying through his teeth, that his republican backers won't allow for a fair investigation, that they are pushing Kav through for a political agenda of their own. Chew on that.
Horseshit, this is gaslighting. All that changed were tiny details of a traumatizing event that happened 3 decades ago. Most of the changes are completely innocuous. You lot are just making more excuses, side stepping the point.
Load More Replies...Men need to talk to men and to boys - they need to help raise boys and support each other to be the best people they can be. Men need to tell their stories, good and bad, to each other to help make our world a better place. This kicking story is fantastic because it's doing just that.
I thought this was very VERY well said. I Just think I've read the words nuts too many times
This doesn't work on would-be rapists or their sympathizers. I've literally been in an argument with a guy about whether it was ethical for rapists to be castrated and he said no, because with a man, it's permanent while when a woman is raped, it's just "a few minutes unwanted contact and isn't damaging to the woman". Rapists are unapologetic about it.
Except some men actually DESERVE to be kicked in the nuts. No one ever deserves to be sexually assaulted, however.
This needs to go viral. Though it doesn’t fully envelope all the fear and emotional scars when you are easily overpowered, it definitely brings to light the anger and feeling of helplessness many women experience.
This made me want to kick the guy who assaulted me in the nuts~~He walked away a free man. It was many years ago and I didn't know who to call for help because he was a cop!
Imagine that the woman turned the tables on the same old story to show how empathic and understanding she was, then made it into a political statement to mock you, and laughed and laughed and laughed.
Sexual harassment and assault have never been okay. I don't require a series of tweets to educate me on that. It's pretty pathetic that some men do.
I dont know if this "nutkicking" analogy will enlighten people who get away with, or are ignorant towards sexual abuse to the fact that its disgusting, I think those people that do it dont have the empathy to care about how their actions effect the people they take advantage of. I dont know what this twitter thread achieves, perhaps i'm being ignorant though. This whole situation is becoming a bit of a moral jungle with loads of people coming up with different ways to explain the same thing - Sexual abuse is terrible
Another empathy experience for a man: You are walking alone and a man comes up behind you and renders you helpless with a stun gun and handcuffs you. He then pulls down your pants and sodomizes you. Are you eager to share your story or are you so humiliated you do so reluctantly? If this never happened would you make this story up, be willing to testify that this happened, so you could get someoe in trouble?
Imagine that some times, the woman not only kicked you in the nuts but also, beat, stabbed, strangled, suffocated , and tortured or killed their victims,. Imagine that this is what you think about the whole time you are being kicked in the nuts and the whole time afterwards while you are laying there incapacitated.
Whatevers not taken You don't seem to be adding anything, either.
Load More Replies...QUestion that disturbs me, are men so stupids they really need this kind of analogy ?
No need to put men down. Some are wired differently, even women toop, and need it explained a certain way. As long as it's being talked about and men are engaged, it's good.
Load More Replies...I hope that Trump gets his nuts kicked so hard they go all the way to his throat. That way he'd know what pain is. That guy has been so sheltered it's time that some of the harm he's done to others came back to hit him. And maybe some of the morons in Congress too.
This is exactly why I've said that when describing one afraid of responding to a challenge we should not call that person a pussy; we should call them a ball sac. Great analogy.
All you men on here, trying to spin the narrative, are either rapist or rape sympathizers. Those of us that aren't afraid of this movement, aren't. Pretty simple
I’m just here to say that I went on one date with this weird guy who fetishized being kicked or punched in the nuts. He was a masochist and as I said just one date. He demanded I kick him in the nuts before we left and then a second time. It was the weirdest date I’ve ever had
Wtf why are people so weird.... Did you end up kicking him? how did he react?
Load More Replies...It is a close analogy...but it doesn’t convey the violatiion of someone his urinary organ INSIDE you, inside of your body...then leaving slime inside you. Perhaps men would do better to imagine someone using your a**l cavity, putting objects that leave gooey fluids in there...while laughing with others and then telling others how much fun it was. Prostate exam, anyone?
I honestly don't understand why analogies like this are necessary. And in a way, it's even MORE infuriating to see something like this, and realize that some men need to have it f*****g broken down and spoon fed to them in order to figure out basic f*****g human empathy. LOOK AROUND YOU. Listen to the women around you. If you still can't figure it out after that, I don't think all the analogies in the world will help you. And let's face it, the people who most need to read this type of thread, won't. They don't care. They have made that ABUNDANTLY clear.
Of course now that a man says it, that other men will understand it. Even though women have been saying this s**t for years.
Because the kind of "men" who need these things explained usually won't listen anything coming out in a female voice.
Load More Replies...What if you needed a job in order to feed and shelter your kids, and no one would hire you unless you let them kick you in the nuts? What if your boss threatened your job and career if you didn’t let her kick you in the nuts whenever she wanted?
This is so Amazing! I couldn't get through it without crying! There are so many wonderful men in this world who get it, but unfortunately there are many, many more who do not and need to read this.
I don´t get the part about juxtaposing women´s feet with the crotches in magazines. What´s the allusion?
I thought he was comparing it with posters and ads that are current but I can't think of any which has both men and women and are styled in a similar way.
Load More Replies...It's a brilliant start. The tweets knocked it out of the park. Maybe someday, the "empathy gene" will be a developmental enhancement for all men.
I read it. The effect on me was to question how sheltered my own upbringing was. Without trying to appear insensitive and unsympathetic, I must admit that I found a considerable amount of it difficult to relate to and somewhat hard to imagine in the context of my own experience. We seem to be living in an ever saddening world...
This is how women live and have lived. The world is not "ever saddening" in this respect because this is finally coming to light, and with that, hopefully, the end to it.
Load More Replies...Very good analogy. Sadly, most who need to see this won't even give it a glance. Thank you for your time and effort.
This is brilliant. I feel like a lot of men don’t care to empathize because it would put them at a disadvantage but I’m glad to see an anology that stands up. www.thoughtsparsed.com
THANK YOU, A.R. MOXON!!! It's sad that there are so many men who can't try to put themselves in someone else's shoes, and have to have someone draw them a picture before they "get it," but now men have no excuse whatsoever. I know a lot of women who say that men think with what's between their legs. Maybe now they'll understand how women feel about violation and how men treat them.
A great read and serious food for thought. I was very moved until the end when Moxon said this; “If you see somebody being cruel to women, or abusive, or violent?” “Kick’em in the nuts.” I nearly choked on my lemon biscuit.
Julius Ghost's examples of "Imagine This..." are so vivid, they jump off the page. They demand reflection and should be read by ALL men and women.
Wow...this is so powerful, to the men who don't show kindness and warmth to women and girls..thank you so much. To the men who are cruel, abusive and neglectful of how your behaviour makes women and girls feel. Please look at your behaviour, ask yourself...would you want your mother, daughters or sisters treated this way..if that doesn't work ask yourself could you take being kicked in the nuts repeatedly...
This is very good. But I must say; in the 80's loads of men used to wear short shorts, but now no one does. I thought it was because longer shorts hid your balls.
Good way of showing to males..it more than just the act..it continues ..trust..insecurity..anxiety.anger..sadness..Depression..Complications in future relationships..Please Be Respectful ..just don’t know what others are going through..Thank you for caring..Respect needed to be mentioned at all dinner tables
I would start with the being kicked in the nuts analogy. Then I would say it all again with being rammed in the a**l r****m, and that this was something for some reason people liked to do to boys when they don't want them to. And that all people who wanted to do this to boys when they don't want them to, usually were bigger, trickier, more powerful in most everyway, and usually believed. And mocked boys who they did it to. Then go on to describe the whole story. Then at the end, add that it's been said being tricked or held down while people rammed something in their r****m, that it felt like death as the big people got unbelievable pleasure out of doing it, so much so they had orgasms. Feels like death almost and yet being kept alive just for pleasure. Add that please.
Imagine reading something empathetic like this from the opposite sex and not being able to believe it wasn’t ghost written by someone of your own gender because you had never met someone of the opposite sex who could actually empathize like this before. Imagine that kind of distrust and what it might take to turn it around.
On the basis of evolutionary psychology and how our pains and fears correlate with how things affected our ancestors' ability to pass on their genes... guys, imagine not just being kicked in the nuts, but being kicked so hard you can't have sex again for a year.
That will hit home .. coming from a woman that was gang-raped by her neighbor boy and his two friends at the tender age of 15. I was a virgin and they fisted both areas. This happened in August, 1986.
I totally get the analogy, but you know what? It -is- a reality. The first thing I learned coming from Kindergarten was how not get kicked in the partybus by every girl on the yard. The main threat in fights was that one lucky one-shot that would guarantee you to go down. Later in the teen years, a girl wanted to stop your argument? She faked kicking you in the balls, if you twitched, she and her friends laughed. She meant it, and you were able to block it off, darned, they were dumbfunded. What did just happen? I made an art out of not being kicked in the balls, and yes when I expected it, I wore protection, even, and especially on the job. Because it´s the one trick every man and woman knows, and it works. It -is- the constant threat from young years forward and the probability of being one-shotted like this is orders of magnitudes higher, also the risk of injury is immense, up to and including infertility, a higher risk of cancer and even live threatening internal bleeding.
It's a good analogy but ... One problem with this comparison is the notion that a male would actually like sex with an older woman so you have to compare the female experience to a male being kicked in the nuts instead. Another problem with this comparison is the notion that a female doesnt enjoy the experience even if it's unwanted, leaving those who orgasm from abuse thinking they are abnormal or that they wanted it. Sexual assault shouldn't be associated with "pain" per se but lack of consent because some rapists go out of their way to create pleasure for their victim which can leave said victim with very loathsome thoughts about why they experience any pleasure if rape should be physically "painful"
Big part of the story missing, if your going to tell the story about nuts you also need to add the power those nuts can bring as well. So image that you also get told, with these nuts boy you can get a woman to do anything, Also know that generally speaking woman will lay down their lives to protect your nuts, so the nuts maybe looked at as a vulnerability but they also bring much power, its the trade off
Sorry, I don't get this comparison. I'd say nut-kicking is not the correct comparison. You are talking about a physical damage, a physical pain. But what about the pain of the soul? That is more painful! In order for men to understand what female victims are going through you should rather talk about how it would be for a man to watch his twelve year old daughter getting raped by 5 violators!§!
If anyone else is interested in sharing the full text I combined all the tweets into one document. https://www.dropbox.com/s/8kmc452mnnvpey0/Nutkicker%20by%20A.R.%20Moxon.pdf?dl=0
So wait? Is being “kicked in the nuts” a metaphor for rape, sexual assault, or harassment?
I agree with Barbara Holmes. Its a an analogy, but I don't agree that it perfectly explains how a woman feels after being sexually violated. Getting kicked and raped are two completely different things.
Hi Lily, please see my previous comment cause this stops a little short of where I want to go, but it's a start. Janine Mc Bean
Load More Replies...Hey A. R. I read your exercise of empathy last night and it both moved and worried me. What at first sounded silly, became quite serious. An additional problematic presented itself to me. What if being kicked in the balls by the right person in the right context was also lauded by society as “The Ultimate Expression of Love”? What if the most painful, frightening, paralysing experience was also, in different circumstances, ecstatic and the easiest natural route to the survival of the species? What about the many, wonderful women, who would only kick you in the nuts with full consent; who were searching for the ultimate mutual ecstatic moment; who would actually protect you from the “bad” women with the potential to extingush any confidence men had of fun, safe, consentual ball breaking? Your analogy went a long way, really… but like you said “here we are”. Let’s keep this conversation going. Thank you for starting it. J. Mc Bean
Holy S**t A. R. I am sick of hash tags and conversations that go nowhere. Nobody has even read my questions, let alone conversed with me. I am sick of "je suis Charlie" and "metoo" and all the online rubbish thats is "right" but over. Talk to me dude.
Load More Replies...this is an awakening to me I don't think im guilty of this but I probably am if ever ive even laughed at a rape joke or doubted her hurt so glad I read it I have been kicked in the nuts and I think ive kicked a few women in the nuts too although unintentionally but I can tell you this...I'll never do it again ..Thanks for the read
I feel kinda personally attacked with that. I'm always trying to get the to person that might have been damaged emotionally or physically, provide care, help and try to find a solution together with them that's comfortable. To then read stuff like this, which seems to be aimed at every guy? Trying your entire life and not being recognized, THAT, is a kick in the nuts as well. But nobody seems to be talking about this. :)
This is beautiful. And yet many comments seem like they are from a******s who don't like being called out. Well if you trolls are what being a true "man" is, I'm getting a sex change.
The thing is, none of this should be necessary. I do not need a comparison or an explanation to understand the BS women have to put up with and to be able to empathize with them. I just have to not have my head in my a**e long enough to listen to them and realize they put up with way more BS on a daily basis than I can even begin to imagine. This isn't rocket surgery...
Because the vast majority of us totally didn't get it before.... No, this, the over-explaining things (AND YES, WE UNDERSTAND "MANSPLAINING" TOO) is what gets frustrating. It's not people on Twitter that need a reality check, it's the old bastards in Government that don't seem to understand anything. But good luck getting them to listen to the peasants.
Because the vast majority of us didn't get it before... No, this - the constant over explaining (AND YES, WE GET "MANSPLAINING" TOO) is what frustrates us.
I completely agree with this article, although I find it a bit strange that the Twitter handle of the author of these tweets is a reference to, imo the greatest comedian who ever lived, Groucho Marx. The Groucho character was an over-sexed, skirt-chaser in the classic Marx Brothers movies. Granted it was the 1930's, but it still made me pause.
What a crock of s**t. This is nothing more then perpetuating the idea that rape culture is a thing. Rape is bad no matter how you put it. However when someone claims sexual assault the instant thing to do is assume victimization. Its not minimization of the incident, it is finding the truth and assigning guilt when all proper evidence is presented. With the Kavanaugh case was brought forward so many people automatically assumed guilt and assigned victimization to Dr. Ford. When in truth there was no collaboration of Dr Fords testimony and there as no proof. There was doubt in her timeline, but people automatically assigned victim hood.
I was doubtful when I first started reading this, but the more I read, and thought about the words, the better the analogy became. Bravo for going where not man has gone before, showing true empathy to women who have been abused by men.
Imagine, too, that for some reason it was all about power and even though the woman doesn't have "strong legs":she decides to use other things to hurt your nuts-like a knife or a stick. And says don't worry, I won't kill you if you just calm down
Even though I think the "kicked in the nuts" analogy is woefully inadequate to truly describe millennia of identity treachery; how about we expand this a bit? Let's say this support of nut-kicking, and the "right" for women to do so, has been written into every major religious text; and thereafter provided the basis for centuries of laws and social protocols. Imagine that any objection you may have for nut-kicking might result in you being legally stoned, imprisoned, or having your children taken from you. Now imagine that nut-kicking is just one of a thousand ways that women are not only allowed to do, but encouraged toward. In fact, they won't be considered "real women" until they comply. Now imagine that from childhood, women are indoctrinated into those thousand ways, and you (and your fellow males) have been taught to silence and acceptance, and don't complain, because being a "whiny b***h" is not an approved masculine trait. Now imagine that you must teach this to your sons
Please change the preview of this so it uses any other tweet than the one using "an 38 year old." You're losing readers because of it.
I think its a good analogy, and he's not the first to come up with it. I also think he should have left the political b******t out of it. He just lost the entire right side audience. Democrat men rape women. Rape is not political. Good analogy, poor execution.
Up until ''women kicking men in the nuts'' even after they show comprehension of the situation, shows no great comprehension at all.
It's a nice idea, but it doesn't quite match up. Nobody says, "I can't wait to go home and have my girlfriend kick me in the nuts" or "I hope that hot girl at the bar takes me home and kicks me in the nuts". The analogy doesn't work because there's never a "good" version of nutkicking, but there is a "good" version of sex.
Imagine me. Leaving the house in scantily clad undies which contoured and emphasize my balls. And why should my balls be covered. I should have the right to bare them out and expose them to the world. Imagine what women would be like.
What if your boss told you she would fire you and ruin your career if you didn't let her kick you in the nuts whenever she wanted.
It's a good analogy but ... One problem with this comparison is the notion that a male would actually like sex with an older woman so you have to compare the female experience to a male being kicked in the nuts instead. Another problem with this comparison is the notion that a female doesnt enjoy the experience even if it's unwanted, leaving those who orgasm from abuse thinking they are abnormal or that they wanted it. Sexual assault shouldn't be associated with "pain" per se but lack of consent because some rapists go out of their way to create pleasure for their victim which can leave said victim with very loathesome thoughts about why they experience any pleasure if rape should be physically "painful"
What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
Except that men don't need to imagine a world in which they are killed in the nuts. We are all kicked in the nuts, actually. Not our friend, not a friend of a friend. We. All. I was kicked in the nuts by a woman, but I don't go around lecturing all women in the planet. Another one of lecture #4 out of the 9 million other ones! When we lecture men about sexual assault. Are we actually thinking that that psycho rapist bastard is going to listen and say: "Oh! I didn't realize my wrong ways. I know it now, and not going to rape anymore! I really thought you like me to rape you. I now know you don't!" And if not, then why would so sick to target non-rapists for what they don't do?
Das Mißtrauen der Männer gegenüber den Frauen und die daraus resultierende Behandlung der Frauen durch die Männer seit Jahrtausenden hat einen karmischen Grund, der sich jetzt erst in unserem globalen Bewußtseinswechsel von der dritten Dimension unseres bisherigen persönlichen Denkens, Wünschens und Handelns in die vierte Dimension unserer seelischen Intuition, auflöst und auflösen muß im gegenseitigen Verzeihen, weil wir sonst nicht global seelisch intuitiv erleben können. --- In einem Matriarchat vor vielen Millionen Jahren einer anderen Menschheit als die heutige haben die Frauen die Männer wie Sklaven behandelt, als wären sie nur nötig zum Kinderzeugen. Am Ende des Matriarchats haben die Frauen die Männer sogar auf ihren Altären geopfert. Und die Männer haben Jahrtausende gebraucht, um sich Schritt für Schritt aus dieser Sklaverei und Entwertung durch die Frauen befreien zu können. Sie haben es dadurch schließlich geschafft, daß sie den Frauen vor einem männlichen Gott eine solche
Oh! So Precious! I hope we never ever lose this male poet! "Kicked in the nuts" indeed. Yes, even MEN will understand that. OMG!!!!
There are some men that pay to get kicked in the nuts, how does that fit in that analogy?
Load More Replies...Kaylyn Fristad made an excellent point about false accusations make it that much harder for valid victims to be believed.
Yeah....I appreciate the intent, but you just cannot substitute a physical act and have the same impact. As men are socialized, any thought of a physical attack by someone physically smaller or weaker than us is welcomed...we welcome the opportunity to kick their a*s...that is what we are taught. The "threat" does not cause us to live in fear, we are taught to respond to violence with violence, so we do not walk in fear, especially if we are fit and strong, even if the "threat" comes from other men. We cannot help women dealing with sexual intimidation and assault by trying to imagine their trepidation, we have to do it with compassion and responsibility...and reflection on all of our behaviors.
Imagine if corporal punishment were resumed for the resolution of sex based crimes-won't you be open to allowing the authorities to resolve injustice there for art absolving you of the incidentally rate at issue here - rage ..anger . Hate. The Darkside of the force this is!!
My a*s was in jail for false a accusation, exploited and accused by a cynical woman, I languished there for weeks . My innocence was in no doubt I hadn't even met the woman.
sexual assault is sexual assault. Men live their entire lives with under the weight of being belittled. Our bodies are disrespected in movies, TV, everywhere. It is MEN who are marginalized. The double-standards are disgusting. Men will NEVER respect women until women respect men first. Until men respect men also. We have constant disrespect for men, just walk into a men's room and p**s in a urinal. Respect for women? Because they are women? Really?
What a clown. THAT IS HOW MEN SPEND THEIR LIVES. It is constantly shown as funny, and sexual violence against men is becoming a norm, it's in every movie, TV show, and it's a terrible double-standard.
So kinda like how men have to prepare themselves for the false accusations women are throwing around left right and center? Or wait... nope, because the paranoid delusion women have of being attacked is unfounded when you look outside the feminist echo chamber... but men actually get falsely accused of s**t by jilted females. 41% of rape claims are false! -> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8135653 Rape happens to around 1/1000 people 12 and older. -> www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/cv18.pdf SO when idiots blindly believe feminist delusion... they end up posting nonsense like this guy.
So this is what is considered deep thinking on this site? Well, I only wasted a few minutes on it, but I see that others seem to think that the writer said something significant. That is sad.
Wow...how to explain the obvious...the premise of all these copycat metaphors is always that most men are r******d apes...little reality flash: they are not and those who are do not read your tweets so please spare us your man or woman-splaining whose only purpose is to make you feel so righteous or please tell us something we don’t know already...
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Imagine being falsely accused of kicking a 12 year old in the nuts. Having your entire life destroyed with no evidence. Imagine having random people threatening to kill and rape you for no reason. Imagine people still believing this even after none of the information could be proven. When all of the witnesses say it didn't happen. imagine being denied a job because of fart jokes you made when you were a teenager or drinking games in college. Imagine your daughters being targeted.
I'm just thankful that the lies were exposed and we now have a fantastic new Supreme Court Justice.
You really think that men don't understand abusing women is wrong ? How arrogant or maybe naive? The men who commit these acts do not care about women or people in general. They understand completely what they are doing and the appeal is, that it is wrong. And if you think this is ever going away, think again. Predators and prey, every relationship on this planet is exactly that. Always has been, always will be
Read the comments on the page and you will understand
Load More Replies...You know what women Will never understand. Imagine Your biologicaly Supirior in everything exept making babies. So your country is being Invaded and over run by ppl who want to take recources and probably rape your women. They may keep them as war brides so that they might live in exchange for sexual consistency so you may be fed to make babies or just pleasure. you might die but theres a chance youll survive and be taken care of by the opposition given tgey arnt an army of mass extinctionists. Imagine That chance is gone. You Get drafted and captured as a guy. you dont get to be raped or a chance to live. You die. while your wife gets raped by the opposition. Just because your biologicaly supirior. Your by defult disposable. Just because you cant give birth. Your empathetic analogy is R******d. When push comes to shove you'll die in a rice patty with your brothers. You dont get a chance to survive the invasion just because you have a penis. They wont hesitate to kill you. Your useless
In a case like that I would gladly switch places with any male who will be fast and simply killed. Compared to be held imprisoned for years, tortured painfully daily, humiliated daily, impregnated by force, give painfull birth to the child of my torturers, and then live with the memory of that horror for the rest of my life. Well, death sounds like a really sweet deal.
Load More Replies...Hmmmm. I would reply to this post with something witty. But the very seed of this post is wholly and entirely malevolent, uniformed, condescending, and completely factually and historically inaccurate. Imagine this post didn’t exist. Too bad, it does, and I wasted the thirty seconds skimming the basic evil socialist ideology enough to predict the entirety of the article. This article and the person who spent time writing all that perverse and self-indulgent nonsense are both stupid. I wish we lived in an America (or the West in general) where we didn’t use ideas about alleged power-driven motives to point blame at all men and the supposed “patriarchy” to substitute for our own individual responsibility for our lives. Grow up.
Thank Ghod our effed up branch of the human race will be extinct in a few hundred years! While this clown is prostrating himself on the altar of the holy "can I get some pretty please" vagina, and throwing all other men (and boys) under the bus, can he, also pretty please with sugar on top, throw himself there first?
Wow... how to explain the obvious... but all these copycat metaphors start from the same premise, that most men are r******d apes...reality flash: they are not and those who are do not read your tweets so please don’t waste time, spare us your man or woman-splaining whose only purpose is to make you feel righteous or please at least tell us something we don’t know already....
This is the dumbest f*****g s**t. This is not how you teach people to have empathy. I would gladly kick this fukcer in the balls myself.
Yes but how often do men ring the police and report a stranger for kicking them in the balls? Only to explain the lack of damage by pointing out it was an emotional or mental ball-kicking they sufferd when a woman glanced at their crotch! Or just by smilng at them?! Oh, and how many of those so badly damaged women commit suicide? Half as many as men? Quarter as many?! Fewer?!?!
I think you've missed the point, but yes--men don't call and report, and this is part of the problem too--just as women don't report. And yes, women commit suicide, as men do. Suicide is one of the greatest causes for death in men because men choose more violent ways to die, as opposed to how women attempt suicide. Another explanation of how men are damaged by society.
Load More Replies...Imagine that these women have sons, brothers, fathers, male friends that they would not want kicked in the nuts. What would happen if they were kicked in the nuts? Would that change anything or would that be a special case? You can kick everyone else but males special to me?
That is a terrible similarity to use. And the way you use it makes it sound like your comparing getting not shotted to a woman that is raped by every male around her till she is in her 20's. Instead try to imagine a woman forcing herself on your d**k without your say so. But then it would not seem so extreme right? And why is that? Is there a double standard? Do people care more about a woman's feelings than a man's so you need to equate assault of a man with sexual assault with a woman because woman are more emotional about everything so you can't equate it otherwise you have to assume a man is not just eager for any kind of sex he can get? Either way you would need to accept something that makes the similarity already used stupid. Like comparing apples to rape.
"Men who disrespect women?" How about any person who disrespects another person....PERIOD! Too much gender BS here. People need to act respectful to ALL other people...PERIOD! Disrespect can go all directions. Respect and civility are important to a mature and open society. If flirting and/or groping can be a consequence of intoxicated, mixed company....don't drink. Doo Dah, dummies.
you've missed the point. Imagine you have a sister. This is her life. Talk to your mother. Ask her what it's like to be a woman.
Load More Replies...I feel so much better know that I know that men are never victimized. I was worried because every bit of research says that in the US says boys are more likely to be abused than girls in their childhood and are more likely to be victims of assault, armed robbery, and murder as adults . Not to mention the research on domestic violence that says at least 30% of domestic violence is female on male and we still have 11 states that define domestic abuse as only being male on female, not to mention that men make up 80% of the homeless population but nearly 50% of homeless beds are "women only". I am just so happy that I am a member of the gender that is never a victim.
70% of un-reciprocated (one-way) Domestic Violence is female on male
Load More Replies...Women 'kick men in the nuts' all the time. At the office when they run to the manager and claim you are doing your work correctly. I never get asked my side of the story because it's so easy to believe the woman. As far as Kavanaugh is concerned, yes he is a frat house wanker. Yes, he has been appointed to positions based on his family's standing. Yes, he has an attitude which would be repugnant today. But it does not make him a rapist & nobody has proven sexual assault has actually occurred.
What attitude is that? He was a closeted nerd/geek
Load More Replies...Except guys are the majority of violent crime in general. So I'll put add a more accurate spin to this analogy. Imagine men are being kicked in the nuts every day. Imagine there's nothing really said about it, "it's just the world we live in", and we move on. Nobody speaks about it, men don't bring it up too often. We continue our day to day lives without fearing that it can happen regardless of it happening a lot. Now imagine women are being punched in the face at a lesser rate (Still an issue but it's at a lesser rate). Campaigns are made about it, it's in the news, groups protest about it. Everybody is talking about it and it's brought up constantly. Women continue their day to day lives and everybody is expecting you to care about it. Now imagine all that and then having the second group claim men have no idea what it's like to be victims of the world even though they're the majority of violent crime in that world. Further that by then claiming it's men that lack empathy
The reason rape is finally a topic is because on average 24 people are raped every minute in the US. Imagine what happens in Africa or the third world. And don't forget those are the reported cases. Men are absolutely not targeted at such enormous rate.
Load More Replies...I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that this man has never been falsely accused of sexual assault or harassment. If that ever happens, get back to about that experience.
Maybe if Justice Kavanaugh had actually been guilty of anything, would this rage have been justified. Speaking as a real survivor, not of having my number asked for while working in an office, or having a man wolf whistle and denigrate my status as a human(both of these things have happened without scarring me permanently) but as a woman that lived through 10 years of sexual abuse from the age of 4, what Ford did to women, was much more rage inducing that anything the GOP or men in general have done in centuries. Her words, inspired perhaps by real events, but more influenced by a political party that can't handle loss and must strike out with any violence it can muster to punish those that did take the reins, are more insulting, more hurtful and more damaging to real survivors of real assault.
Did you watch his testimony? Then you know he's guilty, and a judge who has lied under oath.
Load More Replies...Shame to let politics intrude to such an extent that he highlights Republicans.....maybe he forgot the Democrat created tax-payer funded slush fund set up to pay off sexual harassment claims by congressional staff that paid $21m to victims in exchange for their silence or left wing Hollywood, where "nut-kickers" are rewarded with Oscars, fame and riches and everyone knows about their depravity, or the 90% left-wing mainstream media that has weaponised abuse accusations whilst seeking advertising from corporate "nut-kickers" portraying women as playthings and sex-objects. Until this is dealt with as a societal/cultural problem requiring a whole of society approach, women will remain commodified & at risk.
I read this. Oddly enough there was an advertisement for bathing suits running at the top of the article, showing lots of cleavage and the models holding up the bottom of their tops exposing their midriffs, without the women heads showing in the ad. This is not going to change any time soon.
Unless you refuse to accept cookies from websites the ads are based on what you look at.
Load More Replies...Imagine that the FBI counts four times as many false allegations of sexual assault as the next most common calumny. Oh wait, it actually does.
Yawn, one distortion built upon another, Sorry but you are trolling the wackos
So we are supposed to believe every accusation by a woman, even without evidence? Here is why that theory is flawed. https://www.businessinsider.com/cornerstore-caroline-911-police-call-black-child-sexual-assault-allegation-2018-10 and here: https://www.foxnews.com/us/five-high-school-mean-girls-targeted-boy-with-false-accusations-of-sexual-assault-lawsuit-claims
And where is the talk of female power, female shadow, female accountability? Where is the male pain, the male powerlessness, the victimization? Where is the empathy toward male? When are women invited to listen with empathy? Where's the other half of gender reality? “In my experience, women are empathetic toward men, while men tend not to be particularly empathetic toward women.” So, feminininism is all about empathy toward men? So, out of empathy toward men, women have supported men's issues as much as men have supported women's? Was that million woman march an expression of women's collective rage at men's 4.5 times higher suicide rate getting no special attention, no task force, no publicity, no funding toward research and prevention? Was that what the women were protesting?
It's "men" like you who make people think men are all a******s.
Load More Replies...It's a facile analogy as lies, accusation, heresay and gossip do not equate with fact, evidence, correlation or causality.
Well, good for you. But not everyone can bring themselves to do that.
Load More Replies...as far as i know, Ford never claims she was raped and impregnated and forced to give birth as part of a Manchurian candidate conspiracy. this particular white knight apparently flunked "perfect analogy" class.
This happens all the time, and women never get in trouble for it. So what point are you trying to make?
I’m a man, a Democrat and hate Trump and Kavanaugh. But before I imagine all those things, I want you to see the reality where more white women voted for Trump than Clinton. And two woman could have stopped Kavanaugh nomination but they didn’t. So please don’t make this a man vs woman issue.
Did you watch the testimony? Ford is entirely credible. Kavanaugh lied while under oath (and he is a judge) beyond his defence. He also screamed and yelled and acted in all ways no one would want a judge behaving, let alone a man now in charge of women's lives
Load More Replies...I guarantee that 9.5 times out of 10 those provocative pictures and movies were arranged and funded and directed by men, and that the women are going along with it because of any number of reasons. Men being embarrassed to tell their friends they got kicked in the nuts isn't anything close to women living with the shame and trauma of being raped. The women are NEVER at fault. If a woman says no and the man continues, that's rape, and it's his doing, not hers.
Load More Replies...Okay, but the problem is that we demand mountains of proof that someone was raped, instead of listening to their story and looking at their face and believing them. The default is to assume the victim is making it up for malicious reasons, and to excuse the attacker because they're too important or have potential or any number of other options. Terry Crews came out and said he'd been assaulted, and people didn't believe him either. That's what the problem is. And I know #notallmen etc etc but yes all men, or just as good as, because rape is so normalized in our culture that men are protected when they commit it and no one complains when they joke about it.
Load More Replies...And you're a piece of s**t if you think widespread acceptance of rape is a political issue.
Load More Replies...It's an ANALOGY. That means it is a different thing, but still explains the point.
Load More Replies...Or an inferior student and promoted anyway due to athletics.
Load More Replies...Did they have ZERO INTEREST? You know that for sure? Can you f*****g idiots stop obsessing about the Clintons and try to stay relevant for just once?
Load More Replies...Stop clicking, reading, and commenting on them then!
Load More Replies...Monlip, I think I understand your point, your defiance, but be careful not to cross the line into being critical of women and girls who, through horrible experiences have lost their confidence and who live in fear not by choice. They are not weaker than you, they have just had different experiences than you.
Load More Replies...Diane, sorry, I was obviously not clear. I am not saying don't talk about it. I am not saying you can't post about it here. I am uneasy for YOU, not myself. There are a lot of different types of people on BP and it has it's share of trolls. You might get responses that are going to cause you greater distress. That is what I meant. Not that I might get uneasy, I don't care about that aspect at all - I have not had an easy life. I just think that websites dedicated to people who wish to share their sexual assault experiences would provide you with a more appropriate environment. I genuinely didn't mean to cause you distress. I'm not great at explaining myself. If I upset you, and I didn't mean to, what about people who do want to upset you? There are many great people here but I just don't think Bored Panda is really a safe place for sharing something deeply personal and distressing.
Load More Replies...You missed the whole point of this post. And by the way, Justice Kavaugh demeaned himself by sexually assaulting women and by lying under oath (beyond the rape charges). He screamed and yelled and acted in all ways unprofessionally. The fact that you have happily ignored his behaviour is central to this post.
Load More Replies...The day a woman's life is turned upsidedown by rape happens every day. The day a man goes to jail for rape is a rare one indeed. By the way, Kavanaugh has been accused by three women, and he lied while under oath. That should alone should have disqualified him (he is a judge, after all.)
Load More Replies...You really don't understand just how much oppression that rape victims have had to endure over the years. Don't you? Please do your research before commenting on a topic like this.
Load More Replies...People react to trauma differently and there is nothing wrong with that and a lot of us here have 'earned the right to weigh in on this'. While your 'great point' about boys being abused is true, and made elsewhere, it doesn't invalidate the point that this man is trying to make - whether or not you agree with how he is trying to make it. When using analogies to explain something to a section of society who don't 'get it' sometimes it isn't totally inclusive. Making one point doesn't mean that there aren't others.
Load More Replies...Wow the MRA liars are out in force. What f*****g morons you are.
Load More Replies...There is lots of evidence. It's likely you don't believe any of it because you've been indoctrinated. You don't see how someone working towards a career their whole life can also be guilty of a crime. Maybe you're just plain callous.
Load More Replies...No matter what is on the picture, IT'S NOT AN INVITATION TO RAPE! If I left the door to my house unlocked, is that an invitation to robbery?
Load More Replies...How is it that you've lived so long without being hit by a bus or eaten by a bear? Anyone as stupid as you is a prime candidate for a Darwin Award.
Load More Replies...Hilarious from someone too weak to have a photo on prof pic hahaha
Load More Replies...All true. The big difference is men can't get pregnant and forced to carry and birth the result of that rape. They also don't get s**t shamed or generally shamed as much. On the other hand they have even more trouble than women asking and getting help and getting someone to believe it even happened and to take it seriously. But really it's a problem with the whole society and for the whole society to solve (for example to stop with the gender inequality from the birth - stop telling boys they're not allowed to openly cry and the only acceptable emotion to openly show is aggression and anger for example, also: to teach the the people in general that empathy is a good thing and worth it and not to reward ruthlessness) and not man vs. women.
Load More Replies...Is your name Nathan? Because there are plenty of a******s at my school who sound just like you.
Load More Replies...Wow. It's very clear you've never been a victim of assault. Why must we believe her? Why must you believe HIM?
Load More Replies...And yet over 200,000 rapes occur in the USA alone every year. That's 22 rapes every hour. So apparently not everyone understands it's bad. And those are the conservative numbers.
Load More Replies...Hey, there are men out there who love a good ball punch. This nutkicking is being compared to nonconsensual sex only. Non consensual is never enjoyable. I know from experience. I said no. I yelled no. He kept at it. I never went to the police. He had me convinced that I was stupid and probably woulda lost anyway.
Load More Replies...Why can't we talk about both? We all know radical Islam is bad. We can talk about one or the other or we can talk about both. Having an article specifically talking about the discrimination of women in the US doesn't mean we don't notice what is happening elsewhere.
Load More Replies...No one is talking about sexual encounters or sexual attention. We are talking about sexual ASSAULT. No one likes any type of assault, be it woman or man.
Load More Replies...If consent appears to be in a grey area then it is NO. Every. Single. Time.
Load More Replies...I once had to explain to a male acquaintance that rape hurts even fi you don't fight back and get punched. He was utterly clueless tha a penis could harm a vagina. Had advanced degrees, etc., but didn't realize that you can be lying there in shock and terror, utterly still, and it will STILL HURT LIKE HELL... And not just emotionally. Gobsmacking stupidity out there.
I don't think he is aiming it at all men. But rather, men who lack that basic respect for women and their bodies. Women are not toys to be used and discarded.
@Whatevers not taken and @Rebecca Lipps - Sometimes it’s both. More often it’s about power, because the person is trying to show dominance over the victim, like with chickens and other animals, when the male is trying to get on top of the female. Other times it may be about sex, if the male/female wants to have sex because he just wants to experience the pleasures of sex, and the other person doesn’t, so that’s when rape happens.
Load More Replies...I don't need to be kicked in the nuts to understand the pain causing it. Why is calling someone out on their f*****g nutkicking, a reason for others to threaten you? Because they don't believe it? Nutkickers are everywhere. You might even know one. They don't wear a sign saying "Nutkicker". They could be hiding between young kids, in church, in policestations and even your own home. Sadly but true. If someone says they were kicked in the nuts, believe them! And please do everything to protect them for it ever to happen (again).
One of the most relevant and important things I've read... no means no, not being able to give consent means no. These are attitudes and deep seated beliefs that my brothers I had been given by our mom. Boys will be boys is not a valid excuse, it's complete b******t, and I have heard trump apologists and people who I thought of as good and reasonable say that what was acceptable back them has to be taken into consideration.... this is insane because rape has never been acceptable, sexual assault and harassment have never been acceptable, not for anyone...
I can't believe the comments section on this post. How the f**k are there still people who think it's okay to take away someone's pride, to violate them, to make them believe they don't own their own body? I personally don't know one girl or woman who hasn't been harassed, and all of them have been completely changed and traumatized, including myself. I hope some day in our lifetimes we won't have to worry about being groped.
Imagine living in a world where empathy is so rare others need an explanation like this to understand rape and sexual harassment...
Radu, why do you keep trying to redirect this important conversation to education and capitalism? Does it make you that uncomfortable?
Load More Replies...It's sad that our society needs multitudes of explanations like this and others to try and explain why such a thing is such a big deal, and yet there are still those who don't give a damn. SAD. Makes me cry that people don't care about one another
I'm happy it's getting talked about. Just because we need to open discussion on the issue doesn't make it sad. Those who start to talk about it should be applauded.
Load More Replies...Yaaas. It’s sad, though, that there are so many dim-witted men that an analogy must be drawn between their testes and why not to sexually assault women. BUT! Kudos to the author, hopefully this will reach some troglodytes.
@Whatevers, I haven't laughed that hard in a while, thanks. Is your mom proud of you for your opinions?
Load More Replies...The reason these analogies need to be made is so people are aware of the results of their actions. It's not to make men who were raped feel unimportant, it's just that the sexual assault of women is something that is so common and so normalized in our society. Yes, men do get raped, and so do women, but these analogies need to be made as long as sexual assault is still a problem in our world and as long as people still blame victims and elect accused sexual harassers into the government.
Great analogy. Here's one I use. What if you're a young man about 15. You go to a party. Two drunk idiots pull you into a bedroom. They hold you down and start groping you. You are terrified. You don't know if they are going to rape you or continue to violently assault you by holding you against your will. You don't know what is going to happen. You are embarrassed, humiliated, and terrified. They are laughing and forcing themselves on you. Then you manage to get away. Do you go running off to tell someone? Who do you tell? Who will believe you? Then you find out years later that one of these violators is going to be sworn into the highest legal positions. Would you come forward? Would you come forward and put your horrible experience in front of the world, only to be mocked by the highest position in your country? Wow! I told my truth in one of the threads. A male responded with "shame on you" because I didn't tell anyone 46 years ago. He just didn't get it!!
Wow. I'm female but even so I'm dumbfounded. This is so powerfull. Its the norm we live in. But seeing it from this somewhat "ridiculous" perspective is eye opening. We take it somewhat for granted that life is like this for women. We don't even see anymore how horrible it really is.
you're sick and disgusting Matt Myers. And take that maple leaf off--you're a shame to your country and Mike Myers.
Load More Replies...Yes. Men are raped. Usually by other men. WHY DOES THERE ALWAYS HAVE TO BE THAT ONE PERSON. They're like the neighborhood idiot when there's a house fire, pointing out that the doghouse is on fire too, and that the owner set that fire.
I grew up taught that it was fine to allow men to ogle me as a young girl. Just smile and be nice. Don't cover up, don't change your attitude, just let it happen. You might upset the man. - This was taught to me the way my father treated women, my mother and my sister & I. I wonder if my dad read this, would it put things in a different perspective for him?
Hmm - it is awfull thas us (once young)young girls need to get together and discuss this
Load More Replies...Brilliant comparison, sir. As an assault survivor, I can tell you, this is spot on.
Call it what it is..'Rape Culture' Those who defend it, those who ignore it, those who deflect. Let's say it starts at the top: Those elected to the highest positions in the land and are not held accountable. Women and men defend them. It's a culture where rape is seen and not taken seriously. I've seen many try and soften the term. I don't think it deserves compassion.
Imagine that the best solution anyone had tried to come up with so far was for men to travel in groups, during daylight, wearing flat shoes so they could run, with keys. between your fingers, or to cover up any sign of being male in case it provoked somebody to kick him, but on absolutely no account to treat any woman as a potential but kicker because it would hurt her feelings.
one part he forgot. At the same time as you are constantly protecting your balls from being kicked, you are told that they are the one feature you have which makes you attractive, and will bring you long lasting love, so while you are protecting them with paranoia, you must also wear tight clothing so you can simultaneously display them to win love and approval and attention from the world. If your balls are not deemed attractive enough by the women around you, then anything you say is ignored because your value is nonexistant.
I would add one last entry... It still needs “and imagine that someone would write a piece where they switched the gender roles of the women who kicked men in the nuts and the men who got kicked, in order to create empathy for you, and only the men who got kicked in the nuts would read it, and the women would just all continue to ignore it, and make mocking comments and keep on laughing.”
I'd like to add to this as well. When these things happen to children, people still don't always believe their children. Let's pretend it happened to our child for a moment, however. Many of us will fight to the death for our children (I wish I could say most of us, but we all know how untrue that is, unfortunately). We go, and we fight, and it goes to trial. The guy says, "I didn't do it!" Okay, but that doesn't help me as a parent, because my kid says it happened. There's no proof, because kids don't come forward right away all the time. They don't realize the should, and they're afraid they'll get in trouble. We all know what no proof means-you can't convict. So what's the answer here? Ignore the kid, say sorry there's no proof and move on? Convict anyway without proof, even though there is a "possibility" he didn't really do anything? This is tough because we don't want to think about this happening to our kids. I assure you, it does. What is the answer? We need to figure it out.
My take on those that dismiss the Kavanaugh accusation has two angles: one, the premise that there isn't enough evidence to support the accusations, and two that he is being attacked out of a political agenda. This is interconnected, and these people are so close: theu don't seem to understand the possibility that the opposite could be true, that he is lying through his teeth, that his republican backers won't allow for a fair investigation, that they are pushing Kav through for a political agenda of their own. Chew on that.
Horseshit, this is gaslighting. All that changed were tiny details of a traumatizing event that happened 3 decades ago. Most of the changes are completely innocuous. You lot are just making more excuses, side stepping the point.
Load More Replies...Men need to talk to men and to boys - they need to help raise boys and support each other to be the best people they can be. Men need to tell their stories, good and bad, to each other to help make our world a better place. This kicking story is fantastic because it's doing just that.
I thought this was very VERY well said. I Just think I've read the words nuts too many times
This doesn't work on would-be rapists or their sympathizers. I've literally been in an argument with a guy about whether it was ethical for rapists to be castrated and he said no, because with a man, it's permanent while when a woman is raped, it's just "a few minutes unwanted contact and isn't damaging to the woman". Rapists are unapologetic about it.
Except some men actually DESERVE to be kicked in the nuts. No one ever deserves to be sexually assaulted, however.
This needs to go viral. Though it doesn’t fully envelope all the fear and emotional scars when you are easily overpowered, it definitely brings to light the anger and feeling of helplessness many women experience.
This made me want to kick the guy who assaulted me in the nuts~~He walked away a free man. It was many years ago and I didn't know who to call for help because he was a cop!
Imagine that the woman turned the tables on the same old story to show how empathic and understanding she was, then made it into a political statement to mock you, and laughed and laughed and laughed.
Sexual harassment and assault have never been okay. I don't require a series of tweets to educate me on that. It's pretty pathetic that some men do.
I dont know if this "nutkicking" analogy will enlighten people who get away with, or are ignorant towards sexual abuse to the fact that its disgusting, I think those people that do it dont have the empathy to care about how their actions effect the people they take advantage of. I dont know what this twitter thread achieves, perhaps i'm being ignorant though. This whole situation is becoming a bit of a moral jungle with loads of people coming up with different ways to explain the same thing - Sexual abuse is terrible
Another empathy experience for a man: You are walking alone and a man comes up behind you and renders you helpless with a stun gun and handcuffs you. He then pulls down your pants and sodomizes you. Are you eager to share your story or are you so humiliated you do so reluctantly? If this never happened would you make this story up, be willing to testify that this happened, so you could get someoe in trouble?
Imagine that some times, the woman not only kicked you in the nuts but also, beat, stabbed, strangled, suffocated , and tortured or killed their victims,. Imagine that this is what you think about the whole time you are being kicked in the nuts and the whole time afterwards while you are laying there incapacitated.
Whatevers not taken You don't seem to be adding anything, either.
Load More Replies...QUestion that disturbs me, are men so stupids they really need this kind of analogy ?
No need to put men down. Some are wired differently, even women toop, and need it explained a certain way. As long as it's being talked about and men are engaged, it's good.
Load More Replies...I hope that Trump gets his nuts kicked so hard they go all the way to his throat. That way he'd know what pain is. That guy has been so sheltered it's time that some of the harm he's done to others came back to hit him. And maybe some of the morons in Congress too.
This is exactly why I've said that when describing one afraid of responding to a challenge we should not call that person a pussy; we should call them a ball sac. Great analogy.
All you men on here, trying to spin the narrative, are either rapist or rape sympathizers. Those of us that aren't afraid of this movement, aren't. Pretty simple
I’m just here to say that I went on one date with this weird guy who fetishized being kicked or punched in the nuts. He was a masochist and as I said just one date. He demanded I kick him in the nuts before we left and then a second time. It was the weirdest date I’ve ever had
Wtf why are people so weird.... Did you end up kicking him? how did he react?
Load More Replies...It is a close analogy...but it doesn’t convey the violatiion of someone his urinary organ INSIDE you, inside of your body...then leaving slime inside you. Perhaps men would do better to imagine someone using your a**l cavity, putting objects that leave gooey fluids in there...while laughing with others and then telling others how much fun it was. Prostate exam, anyone?
I honestly don't understand why analogies like this are necessary. And in a way, it's even MORE infuriating to see something like this, and realize that some men need to have it f*****g broken down and spoon fed to them in order to figure out basic f*****g human empathy. LOOK AROUND YOU. Listen to the women around you. If you still can't figure it out after that, I don't think all the analogies in the world will help you. And let's face it, the people who most need to read this type of thread, won't. They don't care. They have made that ABUNDANTLY clear.
Of course now that a man says it, that other men will understand it. Even though women have been saying this s**t for years.
Because the kind of "men" who need these things explained usually won't listen anything coming out in a female voice.
Load More Replies...What if you needed a job in order to feed and shelter your kids, and no one would hire you unless you let them kick you in the nuts? What if your boss threatened your job and career if you didn’t let her kick you in the nuts whenever she wanted?
This is so Amazing! I couldn't get through it without crying! There are so many wonderful men in this world who get it, but unfortunately there are many, many more who do not and need to read this.
I don´t get the part about juxtaposing women´s feet with the crotches in magazines. What´s the allusion?
I thought he was comparing it with posters and ads that are current but I can't think of any which has both men and women and are styled in a similar way.
Load More Replies...It's a brilliant start. The tweets knocked it out of the park. Maybe someday, the "empathy gene" will be a developmental enhancement for all men.
I read it. The effect on me was to question how sheltered my own upbringing was. Without trying to appear insensitive and unsympathetic, I must admit that I found a considerable amount of it difficult to relate to and somewhat hard to imagine in the context of my own experience. We seem to be living in an ever saddening world...
This is how women live and have lived. The world is not "ever saddening" in this respect because this is finally coming to light, and with that, hopefully, the end to it.
Load More Replies...Very good analogy. Sadly, most who need to see this won't even give it a glance. Thank you for your time and effort.
This is brilliant. I feel like a lot of men don’t care to empathize because it would put them at a disadvantage but I’m glad to see an anology that stands up. www.thoughtsparsed.com
THANK YOU, A.R. MOXON!!! It's sad that there are so many men who can't try to put themselves in someone else's shoes, and have to have someone draw them a picture before they "get it," but now men have no excuse whatsoever. I know a lot of women who say that men think with what's between their legs. Maybe now they'll understand how women feel about violation and how men treat them.
A great read and serious food for thought. I was very moved until the end when Moxon said this; “If you see somebody being cruel to women, or abusive, or violent?” “Kick’em in the nuts.” I nearly choked on my lemon biscuit.
Julius Ghost's examples of "Imagine This..." are so vivid, they jump off the page. They demand reflection and should be read by ALL men and women.
Wow...this is so powerful, to the men who don't show kindness and warmth to women and girls..thank you so much. To the men who are cruel, abusive and neglectful of how your behaviour makes women and girls feel. Please look at your behaviour, ask yourself...would you want your mother, daughters or sisters treated this way..if that doesn't work ask yourself could you take being kicked in the nuts repeatedly...
This is very good. But I must say; in the 80's loads of men used to wear short shorts, but now no one does. I thought it was because longer shorts hid your balls.
Good way of showing to males..it more than just the act..it continues ..trust..insecurity..anxiety.anger..sadness..Depression..Complications in future relationships..Please Be Respectful ..just don’t know what others are going through..Thank you for caring..Respect needed to be mentioned at all dinner tables
I would start with the being kicked in the nuts analogy. Then I would say it all again with being rammed in the a**l r****m, and that this was something for some reason people liked to do to boys when they don't want them to. And that all people who wanted to do this to boys when they don't want them to, usually were bigger, trickier, more powerful in most everyway, and usually believed. And mocked boys who they did it to. Then go on to describe the whole story. Then at the end, add that it's been said being tricked or held down while people rammed something in their r****m, that it felt like death as the big people got unbelievable pleasure out of doing it, so much so they had orgasms. Feels like death almost and yet being kept alive just for pleasure. Add that please.
Imagine reading something empathetic like this from the opposite sex and not being able to believe it wasn’t ghost written by someone of your own gender because you had never met someone of the opposite sex who could actually empathize like this before. Imagine that kind of distrust and what it might take to turn it around.
On the basis of evolutionary psychology and how our pains and fears correlate with how things affected our ancestors' ability to pass on their genes... guys, imagine not just being kicked in the nuts, but being kicked so hard you can't have sex again for a year.
That will hit home .. coming from a woman that was gang-raped by her neighbor boy and his two friends at the tender age of 15. I was a virgin and they fisted both areas. This happened in August, 1986.
I totally get the analogy, but you know what? It -is- a reality. The first thing I learned coming from Kindergarten was how not get kicked in the partybus by every girl on the yard. The main threat in fights was that one lucky one-shot that would guarantee you to go down. Later in the teen years, a girl wanted to stop your argument? She faked kicking you in the balls, if you twitched, she and her friends laughed. She meant it, and you were able to block it off, darned, they were dumbfunded. What did just happen? I made an art out of not being kicked in the balls, and yes when I expected it, I wore protection, even, and especially on the job. Because it´s the one trick every man and woman knows, and it works. It -is- the constant threat from young years forward and the probability of being one-shotted like this is orders of magnitudes higher, also the risk of injury is immense, up to and including infertility, a higher risk of cancer and even live threatening internal bleeding.
It's a good analogy but ... One problem with this comparison is the notion that a male would actually like sex with an older woman so you have to compare the female experience to a male being kicked in the nuts instead. Another problem with this comparison is the notion that a female doesnt enjoy the experience even if it's unwanted, leaving those who orgasm from abuse thinking they are abnormal or that they wanted it. Sexual assault shouldn't be associated with "pain" per se but lack of consent because some rapists go out of their way to create pleasure for their victim which can leave said victim with very loathsome thoughts about why they experience any pleasure if rape should be physically "painful"
Big part of the story missing, if your going to tell the story about nuts you also need to add the power those nuts can bring as well. So image that you also get told, with these nuts boy you can get a woman to do anything, Also know that generally speaking woman will lay down their lives to protect your nuts, so the nuts maybe looked at as a vulnerability but they also bring much power, its the trade off
Sorry, I don't get this comparison. I'd say nut-kicking is not the correct comparison. You are talking about a physical damage, a physical pain. But what about the pain of the soul? That is more painful! In order for men to understand what female victims are going through you should rather talk about how it would be for a man to watch his twelve year old daughter getting raped by 5 violators!§!
If anyone else is interested in sharing the full text I combined all the tweets into one document. https://www.dropbox.com/s/8kmc452mnnvpey0/Nutkicker%20by%20A.R.%20Moxon.pdf?dl=0
So wait? Is being “kicked in the nuts” a metaphor for rape, sexual assault, or harassment?
I agree with Barbara Holmes. Its a an analogy, but I don't agree that it perfectly explains how a woman feels after being sexually violated. Getting kicked and raped are two completely different things.
Hi Lily, please see my previous comment cause this stops a little short of where I want to go, but it's a start. Janine Mc Bean
Load More Replies...Hey A. R. I read your exercise of empathy last night and it both moved and worried me. What at first sounded silly, became quite serious. An additional problematic presented itself to me. What if being kicked in the balls by the right person in the right context was also lauded by society as “The Ultimate Expression of Love”? What if the most painful, frightening, paralysing experience was also, in different circumstances, ecstatic and the easiest natural route to the survival of the species? What about the many, wonderful women, who would only kick you in the nuts with full consent; who were searching for the ultimate mutual ecstatic moment; who would actually protect you from the “bad” women with the potential to extingush any confidence men had of fun, safe, consentual ball breaking? Your analogy went a long way, really… but like you said “here we are”. Let’s keep this conversation going. Thank you for starting it. J. Mc Bean
Holy S**t A. R. I am sick of hash tags and conversations that go nowhere. Nobody has even read my questions, let alone conversed with me. I am sick of "je suis Charlie" and "metoo" and all the online rubbish thats is "right" but over. Talk to me dude.
Load More Replies...this is an awakening to me I don't think im guilty of this but I probably am if ever ive even laughed at a rape joke or doubted her hurt so glad I read it I have been kicked in the nuts and I think ive kicked a few women in the nuts too although unintentionally but I can tell you this...I'll never do it again ..Thanks for the read
I feel kinda personally attacked with that. I'm always trying to get the to person that might have been damaged emotionally or physically, provide care, help and try to find a solution together with them that's comfortable. To then read stuff like this, which seems to be aimed at every guy? Trying your entire life and not being recognized, THAT, is a kick in the nuts as well. But nobody seems to be talking about this. :)
This is beautiful. And yet many comments seem like they are from a******s who don't like being called out. Well if you trolls are what being a true "man" is, I'm getting a sex change.
The thing is, none of this should be necessary. I do not need a comparison or an explanation to understand the BS women have to put up with and to be able to empathize with them. I just have to not have my head in my a**e long enough to listen to them and realize they put up with way more BS on a daily basis than I can even begin to imagine. This isn't rocket surgery...
Because the vast majority of us totally didn't get it before.... No, this, the over-explaining things (AND YES, WE UNDERSTAND "MANSPLAINING" TOO) is what gets frustrating. It's not people on Twitter that need a reality check, it's the old bastards in Government that don't seem to understand anything. But good luck getting them to listen to the peasants.
Because the vast majority of us didn't get it before... No, this - the constant over explaining (AND YES, WE GET "MANSPLAINING" TOO) is what frustrates us.
I completely agree with this article, although I find it a bit strange that the Twitter handle of the author of these tweets is a reference to, imo the greatest comedian who ever lived, Groucho Marx. The Groucho character was an over-sexed, skirt-chaser in the classic Marx Brothers movies. Granted it was the 1930's, but it still made me pause.
What a crock of s**t. This is nothing more then perpetuating the idea that rape culture is a thing. Rape is bad no matter how you put it. However when someone claims sexual assault the instant thing to do is assume victimization. Its not minimization of the incident, it is finding the truth and assigning guilt when all proper evidence is presented. With the Kavanaugh case was brought forward so many people automatically assumed guilt and assigned victimization to Dr. Ford. When in truth there was no collaboration of Dr Fords testimony and there as no proof. There was doubt in her timeline, but people automatically assigned victim hood.
I was doubtful when I first started reading this, but the more I read, and thought about the words, the better the analogy became. Bravo for going where not man has gone before, showing true empathy to women who have been abused by men.
Imagine, too, that for some reason it was all about power and even though the woman doesn't have "strong legs":she decides to use other things to hurt your nuts-like a knife or a stick. And says don't worry, I won't kill you if you just calm down
Even though I think the "kicked in the nuts" analogy is woefully inadequate to truly describe millennia of identity treachery; how about we expand this a bit? Let's say this support of nut-kicking, and the "right" for women to do so, has been written into every major religious text; and thereafter provided the basis for centuries of laws and social protocols. Imagine that any objection you may have for nut-kicking might result in you being legally stoned, imprisoned, or having your children taken from you. Now imagine that nut-kicking is just one of a thousand ways that women are not only allowed to do, but encouraged toward. In fact, they won't be considered "real women" until they comply. Now imagine that from childhood, women are indoctrinated into those thousand ways, and you (and your fellow males) have been taught to silence and acceptance, and don't complain, because being a "whiny b***h" is not an approved masculine trait. Now imagine that you must teach this to your sons
Please change the preview of this so it uses any other tweet than the one using "an 38 year old." You're losing readers because of it.
I think its a good analogy, and he's not the first to come up with it. I also think he should have left the political b******t out of it. He just lost the entire right side audience. Democrat men rape women. Rape is not political. Good analogy, poor execution.
Up until ''women kicking men in the nuts'' even after they show comprehension of the situation, shows no great comprehension at all.
It's a nice idea, but it doesn't quite match up. Nobody says, "I can't wait to go home and have my girlfriend kick me in the nuts" or "I hope that hot girl at the bar takes me home and kicks me in the nuts". The analogy doesn't work because there's never a "good" version of nutkicking, but there is a "good" version of sex.
Imagine me. Leaving the house in scantily clad undies which contoured and emphasize my balls. And why should my balls be covered. I should have the right to bare them out and expose them to the world. Imagine what women would be like.
What if your boss told you she would fire you and ruin your career if you didn't let her kick you in the nuts whenever she wanted.
It's a good analogy but ... One problem with this comparison is the notion that a male would actually like sex with an older woman so you have to compare the female experience to a male being kicked in the nuts instead. Another problem with this comparison is the notion that a female doesnt enjoy the experience even if it's unwanted, leaving those who orgasm from abuse thinking they are abnormal or that they wanted it. Sexual assault shouldn't be associated with "pain" per se but lack of consent because some rapists go out of their way to create pleasure for their victim which can leave said victim with very loathesome thoughts about why they experience any pleasure if rape should be physically "painful"
What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
Except that men don't need to imagine a world in which they are killed in the nuts. We are all kicked in the nuts, actually. Not our friend, not a friend of a friend. We. All. I was kicked in the nuts by a woman, but I don't go around lecturing all women in the planet. Another one of lecture #4 out of the 9 million other ones! When we lecture men about sexual assault. Are we actually thinking that that psycho rapist bastard is going to listen and say: "Oh! I didn't realize my wrong ways. I know it now, and not going to rape anymore! I really thought you like me to rape you. I now know you don't!" And if not, then why would so sick to target non-rapists for what they don't do?
Das Mißtrauen der Männer gegenüber den Frauen und die daraus resultierende Behandlung der Frauen durch die Männer seit Jahrtausenden hat einen karmischen Grund, der sich jetzt erst in unserem globalen Bewußtseinswechsel von der dritten Dimension unseres bisherigen persönlichen Denkens, Wünschens und Handelns in die vierte Dimension unserer seelischen Intuition, auflöst und auflösen muß im gegenseitigen Verzeihen, weil wir sonst nicht global seelisch intuitiv erleben können. --- In einem Matriarchat vor vielen Millionen Jahren einer anderen Menschheit als die heutige haben die Frauen die Männer wie Sklaven behandelt, als wären sie nur nötig zum Kinderzeugen. Am Ende des Matriarchats haben die Frauen die Männer sogar auf ihren Altären geopfert. Und die Männer haben Jahrtausende gebraucht, um sich Schritt für Schritt aus dieser Sklaverei und Entwertung durch die Frauen befreien zu können. Sie haben es dadurch schließlich geschafft, daß sie den Frauen vor einem männlichen Gott eine solche
Oh! So Precious! I hope we never ever lose this male poet! "Kicked in the nuts" indeed. Yes, even MEN will understand that. OMG!!!!
There are some men that pay to get kicked in the nuts, how does that fit in that analogy?
Load More Replies...Kaylyn Fristad made an excellent point about false accusations make it that much harder for valid victims to be believed.
Yeah....I appreciate the intent, but you just cannot substitute a physical act and have the same impact. As men are socialized, any thought of a physical attack by someone physically smaller or weaker than us is welcomed...we welcome the opportunity to kick their a*s...that is what we are taught. The "threat" does not cause us to live in fear, we are taught to respond to violence with violence, so we do not walk in fear, especially if we are fit and strong, even if the "threat" comes from other men. We cannot help women dealing with sexual intimidation and assault by trying to imagine their trepidation, we have to do it with compassion and responsibility...and reflection on all of our behaviors.
Imagine if corporal punishment were resumed for the resolution of sex based crimes-won't you be open to allowing the authorities to resolve injustice there for art absolving you of the incidentally rate at issue here - rage ..anger . Hate. The Darkside of the force this is!!
My a*s was in jail for false a accusation, exploited and accused by a cynical woman, I languished there for weeks . My innocence was in no doubt I hadn't even met the woman.
sexual assault is sexual assault. Men live their entire lives with under the weight of being belittled. Our bodies are disrespected in movies, TV, everywhere. It is MEN who are marginalized. The double-standards are disgusting. Men will NEVER respect women until women respect men first. Until men respect men also. We have constant disrespect for men, just walk into a men's room and p**s in a urinal. Respect for women? Because they are women? Really?
What a clown. THAT IS HOW MEN SPEND THEIR LIVES. It is constantly shown as funny, and sexual violence against men is becoming a norm, it's in every movie, TV show, and it's a terrible double-standard.
So kinda like how men have to prepare themselves for the false accusations women are throwing around left right and center? Or wait... nope, because the paranoid delusion women have of being attacked is unfounded when you look outside the feminist echo chamber... but men actually get falsely accused of s**t by jilted females. 41% of rape claims are false! -> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8135653 Rape happens to around 1/1000 people 12 and older. -> www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/cv18.pdf SO when idiots blindly believe feminist delusion... they end up posting nonsense like this guy.
So this is what is considered deep thinking on this site? Well, I only wasted a few minutes on it, but I see that others seem to think that the writer said something significant. That is sad.
Wow...how to explain the obvious...the premise of all these copycat metaphors is always that most men are r******d apes...little reality flash: they are not and those who are do not read your tweets so please spare us your man or woman-splaining whose only purpose is to make you feel so righteous or please tell us something we don’t know already...
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Imagine being falsely accused of kicking a 12 year old in the nuts. Having your entire life destroyed with no evidence. Imagine having random people threatening to kill and rape you for no reason. Imagine people still believing this even after none of the information could be proven. When all of the witnesses say it didn't happen. imagine being denied a job because of fart jokes you made when you were a teenager or drinking games in college. Imagine your daughters being targeted.
I'm just thankful that the lies were exposed and we now have a fantastic new Supreme Court Justice.
You really think that men don't understand abusing women is wrong ? How arrogant or maybe naive? The men who commit these acts do not care about women or people in general. They understand completely what they are doing and the appeal is, that it is wrong. And if you think this is ever going away, think again. Predators and prey, every relationship on this planet is exactly that. Always has been, always will be
Read the comments on the page and you will understand
Load More Replies...You know what women Will never understand. Imagine Your biologicaly Supirior in everything exept making babies. So your country is being Invaded and over run by ppl who want to take recources and probably rape your women. They may keep them as war brides so that they might live in exchange for sexual consistency so you may be fed to make babies or just pleasure. you might die but theres a chance youll survive and be taken care of by the opposition given tgey arnt an army of mass extinctionists. Imagine That chance is gone. You Get drafted and captured as a guy. you dont get to be raped or a chance to live. You die. while your wife gets raped by the opposition. Just because your biologicaly supirior. Your by defult disposable. Just because you cant give birth. Your empathetic analogy is R******d. When push comes to shove you'll die in a rice patty with your brothers. You dont get a chance to survive the invasion just because you have a penis. They wont hesitate to kill you. Your useless
In a case like that I would gladly switch places with any male who will be fast and simply killed. Compared to be held imprisoned for years, tortured painfully daily, humiliated daily, impregnated by force, give painfull birth to the child of my torturers, and then live with the memory of that horror for the rest of my life. Well, death sounds like a really sweet deal.
Load More Replies...Hmmmm. I would reply to this post with something witty. But the very seed of this post is wholly and entirely malevolent, uniformed, condescending, and completely factually and historically inaccurate. Imagine this post didn’t exist. Too bad, it does, and I wasted the thirty seconds skimming the basic evil socialist ideology enough to predict the entirety of the article. This article and the person who spent time writing all that perverse and self-indulgent nonsense are both stupid. I wish we lived in an America (or the West in general) where we didn’t use ideas about alleged power-driven motives to point blame at all men and the supposed “patriarchy” to substitute for our own individual responsibility for our lives. Grow up.
Thank Ghod our effed up branch of the human race will be extinct in a few hundred years! While this clown is prostrating himself on the altar of the holy "can I get some pretty please" vagina, and throwing all other men (and boys) under the bus, can he, also pretty please with sugar on top, throw himself there first?
Wow... how to explain the obvious... but all these copycat metaphors start from the same premise, that most men are r******d apes...reality flash: they are not and those who are do not read your tweets so please don’t waste time, spare us your man or woman-splaining whose only purpose is to make you feel righteous or please at least tell us something we don’t know already....
This is the dumbest f*****g s**t. This is not how you teach people to have empathy. I would gladly kick this fukcer in the balls myself.
Yes but how often do men ring the police and report a stranger for kicking them in the balls? Only to explain the lack of damage by pointing out it was an emotional or mental ball-kicking they sufferd when a woman glanced at their crotch! Or just by smilng at them?! Oh, and how many of those so badly damaged women commit suicide? Half as many as men? Quarter as many?! Fewer?!?!
I think you've missed the point, but yes--men don't call and report, and this is part of the problem too--just as women don't report. And yes, women commit suicide, as men do. Suicide is one of the greatest causes for death in men because men choose more violent ways to die, as opposed to how women attempt suicide. Another explanation of how men are damaged by society.
Load More Replies...Imagine that these women have sons, brothers, fathers, male friends that they would not want kicked in the nuts. What would happen if they were kicked in the nuts? Would that change anything or would that be a special case? You can kick everyone else but males special to me?
That is a terrible similarity to use. And the way you use it makes it sound like your comparing getting not shotted to a woman that is raped by every male around her till she is in her 20's. Instead try to imagine a woman forcing herself on your d**k without your say so. But then it would not seem so extreme right? And why is that? Is there a double standard? Do people care more about a woman's feelings than a man's so you need to equate assault of a man with sexual assault with a woman because woman are more emotional about everything so you can't equate it otherwise you have to assume a man is not just eager for any kind of sex he can get? Either way you would need to accept something that makes the similarity already used stupid. Like comparing apples to rape.
"Men who disrespect women?" How about any person who disrespects another person....PERIOD! Too much gender BS here. People need to act respectful to ALL other people...PERIOD! Disrespect can go all directions. Respect and civility are important to a mature and open society. If flirting and/or groping can be a consequence of intoxicated, mixed company....don't drink. Doo Dah, dummies.
you've missed the point. Imagine you have a sister. This is her life. Talk to your mother. Ask her what it's like to be a woman.
Load More Replies...I feel so much better know that I know that men are never victimized. I was worried because every bit of research says that in the US says boys are more likely to be abused than girls in their childhood and are more likely to be victims of assault, armed robbery, and murder as adults . Not to mention the research on domestic violence that says at least 30% of domestic violence is female on male and we still have 11 states that define domestic abuse as only being male on female, not to mention that men make up 80% of the homeless population but nearly 50% of homeless beds are "women only". I am just so happy that I am a member of the gender that is never a victim.
70% of un-reciprocated (one-way) Domestic Violence is female on male
Load More Replies...Women 'kick men in the nuts' all the time. At the office when they run to the manager and claim you are doing your work correctly. I never get asked my side of the story because it's so easy to believe the woman. As far as Kavanaugh is concerned, yes he is a frat house wanker. Yes, he has been appointed to positions based on his family's standing. Yes, he has an attitude which would be repugnant today. But it does not make him a rapist & nobody has proven sexual assault has actually occurred.
What attitude is that? He was a closeted nerd/geek
Load More Replies...Except guys are the majority of violent crime in general. So I'll put add a more accurate spin to this analogy. Imagine men are being kicked in the nuts every day. Imagine there's nothing really said about it, "it's just the world we live in", and we move on. Nobody speaks about it, men don't bring it up too often. We continue our day to day lives without fearing that it can happen regardless of it happening a lot. Now imagine women are being punched in the face at a lesser rate (Still an issue but it's at a lesser rate). Campaigns are made about it, it's in the news, groups protest about it. Everybody is talking about it and it's brought up constantly. Women continue their day to day lives and everybody is expecting you to care about it. Now imagine all that and then having the second group claim men have no idea what it's like to be victims of the world even though they're the majority of violent crime in that world. Further that by then claiming it's men that lack empathy
The reason rape is finally a topic is because on average 24 people are raped every minute in the US. Imagine what happens in Africa or the third world. And don't forget those are the reported cases. Men are absolutely not targeted at such enormous rate.
Load More Replies...I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that this man has never been falsely accused of sexual assault or harassment. If that ever happens, get back to about that experience.
Maybe if Justice Kavanaugh had actually been guilty of anything, would this rage have been justified. Speaking as a real survivor, not of having my number asked for while working in an office, or having a man wolf whistle and denigrate my status as a human(both of these things have happened without scarring me permanently) but as a woman that lived through 10 years of sexual abuse from the age of 4, what Ford did to women, was much more rage inducing that anything the GOP or men in general have done in centuries. Her words, inspired perhaps by real events, but more influenced by a political party that can't handle loss and must strike out with any violence it can muster to punish those that did take the reins, are more insulting, more hurtful and more damaging to real survivors of real assault.
Did you watch his testimony? Then you know he's guilty, and a judge who has lied under oath.
Load More Replies...Shame to let politics intrude to such an extent that he highlights Republicans.....maybe he forgot the Democrat created tax-payer funded slush fund set up to pay off sexual harassment claims by congressional staff that paid $21m to victims in exchange for their silence or left wing Hollywood, where "nut-kickers" are rewarded with Oscars, fame and riches and everyone knows about their depravity, or the 90% left-wing mainstream media that has weaponised abuse accusations whilst seeking advertising from corporate "nut-kickers" portraying women as playthings and sex-objects. Until this is dealt with as a societal/cultural problem requiring a whole of society approach, women will remain commodified & at risk.
I read this. Oddly enough there was an advertisement for bathing suits running at the top of the article, showing lots of cleavage and the models holding up the bottom of their tops exposing their midriffs, without the women heads showing in the ad. This is not going to change any time soon.
Unless you refuse to accept cookies from websites the ads are based on what you look at.
Load More Replies...Imagine that the FBI counts four times as many false allegations of sexual assault as the next most common calumny. Oh wait, it actually does.
Yawn, one distortion built upon another, Sorry but you are trolling the wackos
So we are supposed to believe every accusation by a woman, even without evidence? Here is why that theory is flawed. https://www.businessinsider.com/cornerstore-caroline-911-police-call-black-child-sexual-assault-allegation-2018-10 and here: https://www.foxnews.com/us/five-high-school-mean-girls-targeted-boy-with-false-accusations-of-sexual-assault-lawsuit-claims
And where is the talk of female power, female shadow, female accountability? Where is the male pain, the male powerlessness, the victimization? Where is the empathy toward male? When are women invited to listen with empathy? Where's the other half of gender reality? “In my experience, women are empathetic toward men, while men tend not to be particularly empathetic toward women.” So, feminininism is all about empathy toward men? So, out of empathy toward men, women have supported men's issues as much as men have supported women's? Was that million woman march an expression of women's collective rage at men's 4.5 times higher suicide rate getting no special attention, no task force, no publicity, no funding toward research and prevention? Was that what the women were protesting?
It's "men" like you who make people think men are all a******s.
Load More Replies...It's a facile analogy as lies, accusation, heresay and gossip do not equate with fact, evidence, correlation or causality.
Well, good for you. But not everyone can bring themselves to do that.
Load More Replies...as far as i know, Ford never claims she was raped and impregnated and forced to give birth as part of a Manchurian candidate conspiracy. this particular white knight apparently flunked "perfect analogy" class.
This happens all the time, and women never get in trouble for it. So what point are you trying to make?
I’m a man, a Democrat and hate Trump and Kavanaugh. But before I imagine all those things, I want you to see the reality where more white women voted for Trump than Clinton. And two woman could have stopped Kavanaugh nomination but they didn’t. So please don’t make this a man vs woman issue.
Did you watch the testimony? Ford is entirely credible. Kavanaugh lied while under oath (and he is a judge) beyond his defence. He also screamed and yelled and acted in all ways no one would want a judge behaving, let alone a man now in charge of women's lives
Load More Replies...I guarantee that 9.5 times out of 10 those provocative pictures and movies were arranged and funded and directed by men, and that the women are going along with it because of any number of reasons. Men being embarrassed to tell their friends they got kicked in the nuts isn't anything close to women living with the shame and trauma of being raped. The women are NEVER at fault. If a woman says no and the man continues, that's rape, and it's his doing, not hers.
Load More Replies...Okay, but the problem is that we demand mountains of proof that someone was raped, instead of listening to their story and looking at their face and believing them. The default is to assume the victim is making it up for malicious reasons, and to excuse the attacker because they're too important or have potential or any number of other options. Terry Crews came out and said he'd been assaulted, and people didn't believe him either. That's what the problem is. And I know #notallmen etc etc but yes all men, or just as good as, because rape is so normalized in our culture that men are protected when they commit it and no one complains when they joke about it.
Load More Replies...And you're a piece of s**t if you think widespread acceptance of rape is a political issue.
Load More Replies...It's an ANALOGY. That means it is a different thing, but still explains the point.
Load More Replies...Or an inferior student and promoted anyway due to athletics.
Load More Replies...Did they have ZERO INTEREST? You know that for sure? Can you f*****g idiots stop obsessing about the Clintons and try to stay relevant for just once?
Load More Replies...Stop clicking, reading, and commenting on them then!
Load More Replies...Monlip, I think I understand your point, your defiance, but be careful not to cross the line into being critical of women and girls who, through horrible experiences have lost their confidence and who live in fear not by choice. They are not weaker than you, they have just had different experiences than you.
Load More Replies...Diane, sorry, I was obviously not clear. I am not saying don't talk about it. I am not saying you can't post about it here. I am uneasy for YOU, not myself. There are a lot of different types of people on BP and it has it's share of trolls. You might get responses that are going to cause you greater distress. That is what I meant. Not that I might get uneasy, I don't care about that aspect at all - I have not had an easy life. I just think that websites dedicated to people who wish to share their sexual assault experiences would provide you with a more appropriate environment. I genuinely didn't mean to cause you distress. I'm not great at explaining myself. If I upset you, and I didn't mean to, what about people who do want to upset you? There are many great people here but I just don't think Bored Panda is really a safe place for sharing something deeply personal and distressing.
Load More Replies...You missed the whole point of this post. And by the way, Justice Kavaugh demeaned himself by sexually assaulting women and by lying under oath (beyond the rape charges). He screamed and yelled and acted in all ways unprofessionally. The fact that you have happily ignored his behaviour is central to this post.
Load More Replies...The day a woman's life is turned upsidedown by rape happens every day. The day a man goes to jail for rape is a rare one indeed. By the way, Kavanaugh has been accused by three women, and he lied while under oath. That should alone should have disqualified him (he is a judge, after all.)
Load More Replies...You really don't understand just how much oppression that rape victims have had to endure over the years. Don't you? Please do your research before commenting on a topic like this.
Load More Replies...People react to trauma differently and there is nothing wrong with that and a lot of us here have 'earned the right to weigh in on this'. While your 'great point' about boys being abused is true, and made elsewhere, it doesn't invalidate the point that this man is trying to make - whether or not you agree with how he is trying to make it. When using analogies to explain something to a section of society who don't 'get it' sometimes it isn't totally inclusive. Making one point doesn't mean that there aren't others.
Load More Replies...Wow the MRA liars are out in force. What f*****g morons you are.
Load More Replies...There is lots of evidence. It's likely you don't believe any of it because you've been indoctrinated. You don't see how someone working towards a career their whole life can also be guilty of a crime. Maybe you're just plain callous.
Load More Replies...No matter what is on the picture, IT'S NOT AN INVITATION TO RAPE! If I left the door to my house unlocked, is that an invitation to robbery?
Load More Replies...How is it that you've lived so long without being hit by a bus or eaten by a bear? Anyone as stupid as you is a prime candidate for a Darwin Award.
Load More Replies...Hilarious from someone too weak to have a photo on prof pic hahaha
Load More Replies...All true. The big difference is men can't get pregnant and forced to carry and birth the result of that rape. They also don't get s**t shamed or generally shamed as much. On the other hand they have even more trouble than women asking and getting help and getting someone to believe it even happened and to take it seriously. But really it's a problem with the whole society and for the whole society to solve (for example to stop with the gender inequality from the birth - stop telling boys they're not allowed to openly cry and the only acceptable emotion to openly show is aggression and anger for example, also: to teach the the people in general that empathy is a good thing and worth it and not to reward ruthlessness) and not man vs. women.
Load More Replies...Is your name Nathan? Because there are plenty of a******s at my school who sound just like you.
Load More Replies...Wow. It's very clear you've never been a victim of assault. Why must we believe her? Why must you believe HIM?
Load More Replies...And yet over 200,000 rapes occur in the USA alone every year. That's 22 rapes every hour. So apparently not everyone understands it's bad. And those are the conservative numbers.
Load More Replies...Hey, there are men out there who love a good ball punch. This nutkicking is being compared to nonconsensual sex only. Non consensual is never enjoyable. I know from experience. I said no. I yelled no. He kept at it. I never went to the police. He had me convinced that I was stupid and probably woulda lost anyway.
Load More Replies...Why can't we talk about both? We all know radical Islam is bad. We can talk about one or the other or we can talk about both. Having an article specifically talking about the discrimination of women in the US doesn't mean we don't notice what is happening elsewhere.
Load More Replies...No one is talking about sexual encounters or sexual attention. We are talking about sexual ASSAULT. No one likes any type of assault, be it woman or man.
Load More Replies...If consent appears to be in a grey area then it is NO. Every. Single. Time.
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