Sick Of Ignorant People Not Believing In COVID-19, Nurse Quits Her Job In The COVID-19 Intensive Care Unit
The very first case of COVID-19 was identified almost a year ago—back in December of 2019. Since then, more than 56.2 million cases have been confirmed, with more than 1.34 million dying from it. And for some mysterious reason, even to this day, a vast number of people still refuse to believe that this virus is a serious one and it’s not playing games.
A nurse named Ashley (TheBlondeRN on Twitter) from Texas knows the situation from first-hand experience. The woman used to work in the OR, but recently, she was transferred to the COVID intensive care unit. After working with COVID-19 patients for a while, the woman decided to quit her job, and apparently, people’s ignorance and the amounts of disinformation surrounding the virus were the reason behind the tough decision she had to make.
Recently, Ashley was transferred to the COVID-19 intensive care unit
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Recently, Ashley decided to go on Twitter and publicly answer the common question she’s been asked quite a few times after quitting her job. “I resigned from my job last week and I’ve been asked several times, ‘What was the breaking point?’ I don’t know a specific one, but I’ll share this,” the woman wrote in her post. In the following tweets, Ashley explains the reasoning behind her decision.
After some time working there, the nurse decided to quit, and now she’s sharing her experience on Twitter
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Currently, her Twitter thread has over 102k likes and more than 32k retweets. Thousands of people felt touched and shocked by Ashley’s story, while at the same time being thankful for her decision to share it with the world.
Here’s what people on Twitter thought about Ashley’s story
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I don't understand anti maskers. Yes I know that you don't want to wear one. But not wearing one will endanger a lot of lives. Stupid, selfish anti maskers
And they are the anti vaxxers
Oh my god please don't get me started on anti vaxxers
They're not exactly the same but the Venn diagram shows an awful lot of overlap.
You know what I watched a few days ago when a bunch of Trumpers came to LARP as militia bois outside the Justice Center? One girl was with them, and was ranting about how vaccines will implant a tracker into your body so the government can track your location. While she was ranting about this, do you know what was in her hand? A cellphone. That little device will show your location, where you've been, what you've done, etc. Why even fret over government implants when you're literally holding a tracking device in your own hand? lol, UGH. I'm just done with all this nonsense. Even my brother, who is a smart guy, is being overtaken by this paranoia and it worries me.
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NG that Venn diagram is a circle
Incorrect. Not anti-vax. But masks don't work.
I like the masking rules when shopping. I'm less nervous when everyone wears one. I completely forget I'm wearing one when I'm focused on getting the best head of lettuce (I choose with my eyes, of course).
Viviane +
I work in a hospital (not in patient care). We are at full capacity with COVID patients. It's very real and frightening. I truly feel for this woman.
@WIldBerry, you don't work in healthcare if you think a nurse can't tell the difference between "I'm not that sick!" and "I don't believe Covid is dangerous". Or that medical personnel can't break down and give up in this pandemic. Your contempt and condescension only shame *you*.
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In response to Julie c rose in American the government and the media has been cherry picking and editing information and sometimes straight up lying to the American people for 50 years + We don't know who to trust and some of the things they are saying do not make sense. So yes we question the truth because where i live the only people who died are old or extremely compromised and the regular flu probably would've killed them too. We have no one to lead us because we have no good leaders and haven't since I can remember. Covid is real no doubt and its terrible when anyone dies but I think in American we need to complete get rid of all the leadership that we do have all of them involved and get new ones because they all suck and only care about power and money
I'm constantly reading about refrigerated trucks parking outside of hospitals to work as mobile morgues, and that alone is enough to scare the bejeebus out of me. IDK how anyone /can't/ take that seriously.
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I don't feel for this woman because she's forgetting one thing: patients who are sick will deny. Denial is an unconscious way of thinking, a psychological mechanism, that all of us use from time to time in order to 'help us from facing hard facts.' The quotes are my way of explaining it. The patient this nurse was dealing with simply was saying to himself, "This can't be real. I can't be close to death. I can't die now. I'll be ok. This disease isn't as bad as they are saying." Denial is also a part of grief and when we're in dire circumstances, like all of us on this planet, we are grieving! We're grieving those who died, those who could die, the fact that we can't sit in a restaurant or a bar, that we can't fly somewhere on holiday, that our kids can't go to school, etc, etc.... we're grieving that our lives are changed by this disease. This nurse quit because she wanted to - not for this bogus reason she states.
What did Taiwanese covid patients say before Taiwan eliminated covid? What do New Zealand covid patients say when their covid gets detected in our border quarantine facilities or occasionally in the community? What do Australian covid patients say? Senegalese patients? Vietnamese patients? Thai patients? Lao patients? Rwandan patients? Our societies aren’t full of so much BS rhetoric because our leaders told the truth about covid. What this American nurse is saying is consistent with everything else that is being reported about the US’s handling of covid. I think it’s you who is in denial.
@ wildberry - I have had a few terminally ill family members and friends, none of whom were in denial. I know people who have COVID, none of which are in denial. Denial is no part of grief, how can you grieve if you are in denial?? Dumb statement!
She quit because she couldn't take it anymore.
Julie C Rose told you it's you who is in denial, I would not have said better
Even our own elected representatives are spreading the lies that COVID is overblown and is just a flu -- and they have no excuse, they have first-hand government information stating how serious it is.
No. It's not just "elected officials." It is REPUBLICANS. Let's not pretend.
Yep. They've been benefiting from misinformation campaigns and conspiracy theories for a long time now. Medical truths aren't going to bend to motivated reasoning, but they will continue to try to spin it regardless.
Well, they're not visiting the Covid wards, and even when a Congressperson gets sick, they STILL Keep up the BS.... I agree, no excuse, it's criminal.
THIS. THis nurse. Yes. After 3 months hiatus, I am back at the local hospital. I was losing it. We all were. I've been back since September. I got an MD but never went for the boards b/c my training was enough to break me. I just do patient information and advocacy. I see families who won't admit it's real, who say we're killing Grandma in the ICU, try to bust in ---- if they're not stealing PPE to sell online. We have ot have volunteers stand guard so no one yanks the hand sanitizer dispensers off the walls. THIS IS KILLING PEOPLE AT NEARLY TEN TIMES THE RATE OF FLU SO FAR... Quarter-million dead as of today, I read. OUr infectious disease briefing today said we'll hit 300-310K by end of the year. That's only six weeks more... And another 50-70K dead to come. For the love of God, life and country, TAKE IT SERIOUSLY, then take it even more seriously. Peace andSTAY SAFE
@WildBerry... I am not a licensed practitioner. I admit it. I have an MD. I hold a medical degree. That is not the same thing. I make the distinction. Ergo, your "HA!" makes me embarrassed *for* you. Honestly, your gloating makes me wonder if you ever learned about psychology... and are in DENIAL about your own pathology.
Thank goodness for people like you Leo and all the First Line Medical Workers, without you all, the world would collapse under this pandemic. I've worked as CNA in TN and they typically do the grunt work, which I was happy to do at the time. I let my license lapse years ago but I still truly understand, appreciate, admire, and am very grateful to all the Nurses and Medical Workers working during this chaos right now. My heart goes out to each and every one of you.
Denial is part of the steps of the Grief model, but not the crazy way these AntiMaskers are Denying Covid-19 and the realities of the seriousness of the virus, illness, death, and destructive toll that it takes on the human body of the people who recover from it. Wildberry is trying to make these one in the same, when they are extremely different.
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HA! I was right in the other thread - you aren't a doctor. Look up the psychological mechanism called "DENIAL". You forgot what you were taught about it.
The stupidity is spreading like Covid. We are fighting 2 pandemics at this moment. And they both are dangerous and lethal. If only the deniers would be affected and die, it would be an enormous and very welcome cleaning of the gene pool, but as we all know not only the deniers die from Covid-19.
If there is any health care worker reading this, thank you.
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You're welcome.
In my country (Indonesia) still many people disbelieve in covid too... While my friends that still work as nurse all having the worst time in their career.. We already lost two of our senior in nursing school on the last 2 month.. If you never seeing a covid patient with bad condition, it is because of our struggle to keep this pandemi at bay..
@WildBerry I bet your an antivaxxer aren’t ya
KrabbyGramps666 haha
republicans should be ashamed of themselves.
They are not. They are still pulling the same dirty tricks now.
Stories like this are terrifying... and common. I firmly believe in freedom of speech but when lies are literally killing people, there should be consequences for the people willfully spreading them.
Yeah, freedom is speech is entirely a gimmick. Entirely. Every other country on earth gets by better by having meaningful and sensible censorship.
Yep. Freedom of Speech really only applies to a certain class of people in the US as well. Right now the rich are lying to keep profits up. Thank Sinclair for spreading these lies!
I read a very old description of how people reacted in Russia during a plageu outbreak about 200-300 years ago. It was pretty much exactly like the reaction of Covidiots today: denial, blaming the government, conspiracy theories, more denial, protests in the streets etc. It doesn't matter how much our technology evolves, because we obviously don't.
Interesting. I do wonder how much of an impact the internet/cable "news" has to this though. I don't think it would be as dire if these conspiracy theorists couldn't congregate so easily online, and if companies didn't control the narrative and spread around propaganda.
what do you do Ms.m
I'm a secretary in hospital administration.
Bless you. Seriously. Keeping the cogs turning is harder than it sounds like...
my mom used to work in the hospital she does not work there any more also i just wanted to ask how do you follow people on here
You click on their name which takes you to their profile and on their profile will be a follow option.
I live in a basement apt with my elderly Greek landlords upstairs. Beautiful apt and well kept home. These people care, are religious and courteous. The virus has shown me their true colours. As I am leaving Friday I bump into them and she tells me they are attending a Sunday wedding. Now the wife is coughing away and is clearly sick with something. I tell her my brother in laws father has just passed away from Covid at his nursing home and maybe she should be careful and not go to the wedding. Her response. Covid is fake. It is now Sunday and they are having about 30 people over from the wedding upstairs. This has been going on since the beginning with numerous BBQ's and get together. I cannot wait to find another job so I can move away from these crazy people.
Nowhere you could report her to?
A lot of moderately intelligent people have been saying for years: “I wish there was a disease that killed stupid people.” Now there is, but we were too stupid to realize we should have been more specific and wished for it to kill ONLY stupid people.
Unfortunately this only ends one way for us folks in the US and that's with alot' more deaths. We have half the population that doesn't believe this is a serious illness. Actual Covid-19 patients in hospitals that don't believe it's real. We can blame Republicans for this attitude (which they are) but what the hell is wrong with our society that people are cool with all these deaths?! We're about at 2000 daily deaths we can likely add another 100k before New Years. We've allowed the most ignorant to have such an influential voice in this country. We're now paying the price.
Society was given an education that was picked apart by Republicans. That’s literally how they even still have a voter base. By creating the least intelligent population in American history. It’s literally their fault. It always is.
Thanks! But ... please don't resign. I may be selfish here - although not in the US ... you have a really hard time over there ... anyway, thanks to all nurses, doctors, hospital janitors and all the people they meet every day!
I feel for all the front line workers, not an easy situation to be in. Doesn’t help when the government doesn’t help your cause and actually makes it worse. I am super grateful to our local government, they have done exceptional work during this crisis. I can’t imagine how difficult it is to make these unpopular decisions but it is necessary to be getting on top of the virus.
The people who say that coronavirus is like the flu make no sense to me. My father doesn't leave his house unless he is going to the doctor because that's how dangerous this illness is. I live in a small town of 11,000 people and we have 2,000 cases of coronavirus. Yet we still have people that want to go to restaurants and don't where masks when they go in stores. I work at a pizza buffet place and we have people who are upset because our dining room is closed right now and they can only pick up food.
I’m a perfectly healthy and pretty young person, and I don’t leave my house either. It’s too big of a risk, for anyone.
He's not wrong about taking vitamins, though. I read that 80-90% of the people with covid were found to be vitamin D deficient.
It can't hurt to take vitamin D, but I wouldn't rely on that along. By the way, out of curiosity, how many people in general are vitamin D deficient?
More than half, if I remember right. I’ve been supplementing on and off for like three years since I found out I was deficient.
Vitamin D and zinc.
"skillets" ? or skill sets.
If she quit over this, then the covid unbelievers are winning.
They may feel like winners while dying or dealing with long-term health issues, loss of family and friends, etc.
Nah, Covid is winning. Every human is losing.
Look. Folks don't believe covid is a real concern for a Number of reasons. For some they've had a family member with a very mild case and so base their understanding on limited second hand experience. Some see curated news or facebook posts. Some just don't want to believe there is such a scary thing out there and denial is easier. Some folks are poor, who have used alternative 'remedies' all their life. Garlic and onions worked for generations, by golly it will work on this. But how ever a person has gained their understanding of covid. Please don't judge them as stupid. Recognize them as having come to their options logically (however faulty and selective that logic is). It is our job to educate the incompletely educated. But to do it in a way that prioritizes the patients autonomy. We'd never make fun of someone who never learned to read and is dealing with illiteracy, would we? We also wouldn't take it personally that there are so many illiterate folks and get burnt out about it
Stupid is a word with a proper usage. Calling a covid denier “stupid” might not be nice, but it’s linguistically accurate. What you’re advocating for is to just phase out the word entirely, which really has nothing to do with garlic or covid.
Illiteracy can be caused by a learning disability or life circumstances. However it's not contagious. Educating people about Covid is necessary, but options are limited if people remain in denial. For example, if someone can't understand danger outside their personal experience, I don't think that medical practitioners have the time, energy or recklessness to offer them a tour of the Covid ward. We can all do our best, but sometimes imposing rules becomes the sole option to reduce contagion.
Insane. The only things to be believed in are democracy and religion. Anything else is to be known about if people who are smarter than you, more knowledgeable than you or make decisions about it say so.
what do you do Mrs.M
She said she is a secretary in hospital administration. It was up above so you would t have seen it.
She's asking herself! Either 2 bots conversing, or one idiot conversing with themselves.
A few facts: 1) Masks don't work 2) Asymptomatic transmission is a myth 3) At no time in history have healthy people been locked up to deal with a virus with a 99.997% survival rate. 4) 6% of Covid deaths are only from Covid 5) This is only about control. 6)Mandating masks has not kept death rates down anywhere. From the CDC, 85% of people who "always" or "often" wore masks were the percentage who contracted Covid. People who "never" or "rarely" wore a mask were the least likely to get Covid at 7.8%. Another study showed of 20 U.S. states that have never ordered people to wear face masks indoors and out have dramatically lower COVID-19 death rates than the 30 states that have mandated masks. Most of the no-mask states have COVID-19 death rates below 20 per 100,000 population, and none have a death rate higher than 55. All 13 states that have death rates higher than 55 are states that have required the wearing of masks in all public places. It has not protected them.
Maybe they will change the title, but where does she quit her job? Heyyyy... is this fake news?
She said so in one of the tweets.
You're right, My apologies. Reading skills are not strong today.
Very sad that people don't believe in covid, but for her to quit her job -a job which saves people's lives - because some people are fools, is utterly ridiculous snd will exacerbate the problem. Should a cancer specialist quit because some people dont think smoking and sunbeds cancer? Of course not. I feel sorry for her but quitting is not the answer. The right to medical care should not be based on beliefs of the patient.
She has free will. It isn't her duty to risk her life for people who didn't do all they could to avoid getting ill. There are many who think that people who refuse to wear masks and socially distance should sign a contract refusing care if they get sick.
You should go risk your life to replace her.
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My father was in the covid ICU and he passed away. The staff stole the wedding ring he wore for 59 years. It was the only thing of his my mother wanted. Hospital gave zero f's. I get the the staff may feel unappreciated at times, but the patients don't get the treatment they deserve sometimes, too. This was in St. Peter's hospital in Albany, NY. It's supposed to be a very nice hospital. Hospital shrugged and said they were sorry we had a 'bad experience'.
1. I'm sorry for your loss. 2. Don't ever let a patient stay in the hospital with any valuables. 3. Staff should have made a "Valuables and Personal Belongings List" when he was admitted. If the ring is listed, your family must be compensated for its loss. Talk to the hospital administration and hire a lawyer to write the hospital a letter demanding payment for the ring.
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Sounds like she is just bad at her job or too new. The best and experienced stop caring about those with a prerogative to die. The really good medical staff that care know to do their best half assed job on the worthless and save effort for those that aren't trying to kill themselves with stupidity, denial, smoking or cheeseburgers
And the last part is wrong. We have to do our best for EVERY patient regardless of their choices or believes, to do otherwise would be unethical.
Not necessarily. I've been a healthcare worker for 15 years now and this s**t is seriously making me wanna quit. The burnout from is all is really getting to me. She deals with it everyday, sees deniers all over social media, and probably hit a breaking point. Easy to do when someone tells you it's all a hoax probably shortly after you literally just watched someone die from it.
If you are in healthcare and saying "Oh, that patient earned their fate," then get the eff out of the field. You never half-ass, and there is not "best half-assed job". Half-assing it kills people. B/c we're not judges.
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No, no, and NO!!!! This repeated nonsense of suggesting that Covid-19 is much worse than 'flu' needs to stop, once and for all. There is no doubt that Covid-19 is a dangerous and highly infectious disease, but it is simply a variety of a coronavirus. 'Flu' also comes in many varieties and some are far, far more dangerous than Covid-19. For example, H5N1 strain has a mortality rate of 50%. Half of everyone who catches it will die!!!!!!! It is just as well that Covid-19 is not as bad as'flu'.
Covid is WORSE than the flu. For example on average 300,000-600,000 people die annually from the flu, but in just ONE single year we have had over 1.34 million covid deaths. The infection rate for the flu from one person is 1.3, yet covid is 2-2.5. Incubation time for the flu is 1-4 days yet Covid is 1-14 days. Flu hospitalisation rates is 2% and covid is 19%, death rate for flu is .1% yet Covid is 1-3.4%. The other big difference is that we still don’t know the long term side effects of Covid.
Peter Kelly, whatever semantics you use, some of would rather not be a test group for viruses.
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I support your decision. The virus is real whether people believe it or not. However, I know several people in the healthcare industry, some family members, who have quit their jobs because they were instructed to give false information inflating both case counts and hospital occupancy numbers...to be specific..."say this and let the media handle the rest". So who do we actually believe? It's sad that we cant just find a middle ground on this.
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99.96% survival rate.
THAT is the attitude that needs to go.
So let’s say that’s accurate. 99.96 percent of the world’s population gets it, and recovers. That means 31,000,000 people die. That is not an acceptable number. That is nearly three times the number of people killed under 6 years of Hitler. When you take into account that that figure is completely inaccurate, it will be closer to 100,000,000 people that die, and thousands will die daily until we get our collective s**t together
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She quits because of one patient's ignorance? um ok.
She said there were many reasons and she relayed just this one. And who the hell are you to criticize another person's personal life choices.
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I'll criticize it too. When my family saw this story (we're ALL in healthcare), we all said this nurse is just attention seeking. In all of my years, I've NEVER once seen EVERY PATIENT in the ICU or CCU or any other step-up unit get their blood glucoses checked. She said she was doing finger sticks for the whole unit. I say BS. And, this board is for expressing opinions, not just those opinions that are like yours!
I'm sure there are tons of reasons why she did. My mom had very mild covid in August and was still treated in the hospital because of her diabetes and high blood pressure. I've had to sleep in the same room with her till date because when she's alone she panics and gets anxiety. She wasn't in emergency or anything, just a regular recovery room for 11 days, but she saw others around her that she knew would not make it through the night and heard of how the patients in the next rooms had very little hope of survival. I can't even begin to imagine what medical staff feels like. I'm sure they feel like failures in many way even though it's not their fault and out of their control.
I had to take 3 month hiatus from my volunteer work. A doc at our hospital committed suicide. Helathcare workers are stressed on *good* days. This is the worst year most have ever seen or will ever see. I've re-evaluated MY life and decided I'd like to keep risking it just so people are a little less scared of the big scary medical stuff. This nurse decided she needed to do something else. No blame or shame to her. You've no idea till you've heard that death rattle, @ Minnie-me. No idea. May you never *need* to hear it.
@Wildberry, Guess what? Some of my family are healthcare, too, and with one exception (the family disgrace, btw) we NEVER speak so callously about the toll this takes on all of us and our co-workers, EMTs, etc. Patients matter. They are living beings. To be detached from the patient outcome? To not search one's own soul and actions, to be sure everything was done? No, we don't make them sick. That doesn't mean we, as in healthcare workers of all types, shouldn't give our all every day. So we burn out sometimes. We break down. We wonder.. "Did I do everything? Did I miss osmething?"... And if you don't have any compassion or conscience, WTF are you doing in healthcare?!
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Healthcare professionals do not feel like failures because we didn't make the person ill and to a large extent, we can't control it. If everyone in healthcare felt like a failure, we would have no one manning ambulances, or clinics, or hospitals. True, there are some who are not cut out for the work and they leave. Dentists used to have a high suicide rate - not sure if they still do - but why? No one dies at the dentist office. It's because of something else.
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I understand her frustrations and it must suck to do her job right now, but that doesn't change the fact that we've gone generations into debt for something with a 99%+ survival rate. What happens when another one hits in say, 8 years? Do we shut down the world again? We literally can't afford to and we'll be super f****d if the next one is mega deadly like the black death was. We've overreacted in the most horrible of ways.
If we are smart we make a plan in case this happens again. The frustration you are feeling is normal and everything you were use to has completely changed. You say we overreacted, when we didn't have leadership to tell us to come together and defeat this new enemy. Yes you "can" survive, but you won't be entirely the same afterwards.
@Full Name, read up on post-Covid complications and "morbidities". These are things that, after a disease is "cured", will still affect a patient for years or for life. The fact you're likely to survive a car crash doesn't lead to expectations of a "normal" life after, so why assume that with this virus?!
Good points, Jordan. Thank you.
@wildberry And guess what? The countries that shut down immediately are business as usual today, with 0, read, 0 new cases.
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Are you saying the entire world didn't have leadership? How can that be because most countries reacted the same way and that was to shut down. Regardless of wearing a mask like other countries did, people died. When we have the next plague, people will die then too.
I don't understand anti maskers. Yes I know that you don't want to wear one. But not wearing one will endanger a lot of lives. Stupid, selfish anti maskers
And they are the anti vaxxers
Oh my god please don't get me started on anti vaxxers
They're not exactly the same but the Venn diagram shows an awful lot of overlap.
You know what I watched a few days ago when a bunch of Trumpers came to LARP as militia bois outside the Justice Center? One girl was with them, and was ranting about how vaccines will implant a tracker into your body so the government can track your location. While she was ranting about this, do you know what was in her hand? A cellphone. That little device will show your location, where you've been, what you've done, etc. Why even fret over government implants when you're literally holding a tracking device in your own hand? lol, UGH. I'm just done with all this nonsense. Even my brother, who is a smart guy, is being overtaken by this paranoia and it worries me.
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NG that Venn diagram is a circle
Incorrect. Not anti-vax. But masks don't work.
I like the masking rules when shopping. I'm less nervous when everyone wears one. I completely forget I'm wearing one when I'm focused on getting the best head of lettuce (I choose with my eyes, of course).
Viviane +
I work in a hospital (not in patient care). We are at full capacity with COVID patients. It's very real and frightening. I truly feel for this woman.
@WIldBerry, you don't work in healthcare if you think a nurse can't tell the difference between "I'm not that sick!" and "I don't believe Covid is dangerous". Or that medical personnel can't break down and give up in this pandemic. Your contempt and condescension only shame *you*.
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In response to Julie c rose in American the government and the media has been cherry picking and editing information and sometimes straight up lying to the American people for 50 years + We don't know who to trust and some of the things they are saying do not make sense. So yes we question the truth because where i live the only people who died are old or extremely compromised and the regular flu probably would've killed them too. We have no one to lead us because we have no good leaders and haven't since I can remember. Covid is real no doubt and its terrible when anyone dies but I think in American we need to complete get rid of all the leadership that we do have all of them involved and get new ones because they all suck and only care about power and money
I'm constantly reading about refrigerated trucks parking outside of hospitals to work as mobile morgues, and that alone is enough to scare the bejeebus out of me. IDK how anyone /can't/ take that seriously.
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I don't feel for this woman because she's forgetting one thing: patients who are sick will deny. Denial is an unconscious way of thinking, a psychological mechanism, that all of us use from time to time in order to 'help us from facing hard facts.' The quotes are my way of explaining it. The patient this nurse was dealing with simply was saying to himself, "This can't be real. I can't be close to death. I can't die now. I'll be ok. This disease isn't as bad as they are saying." Denial is also a part of grief and when we're in dire circumstances, like all of us on this planet, we are grieving! We're grieving those who died, those who could die, the fact that we can't sit in a restaurant or a bar, that we can't fly somewhere on holiday, that our kids can't go to school, etc, etc.... we're grieving that our lives are changed by this disease. This nurse quit because she wanted to - not for this bogus reason she states.
What did Taiwanese covid patients say before Taiwan eliminated covid? What do New Zealand covid patients say when their covid gets detected in our border quarantine facilities or occasionally in the community? What do Australian covid patients say? Senegalese patients? Vietnamese patients? Thai patients? Lao patients? Rwandan patients? Our societies aren’t full of so much BS rhetoric because our leaders told the truth about covid. What this American nurse is saying is consistent with everything else that is being reported about the US’s handling of covid. I think it’s you who is in denial.
@ wildberry - I have had a few terminally ill family members and friends, none of whom were in denial. I know people who have COVID, none of which are in denial. Denial is no part of grief, how can you grieve if you are in denial?? Dumb statement!
She quit because she couldn't take it anymore.
Julie C Rose told you it's you who is in denial, I would not have said better
Even our own elected representatives are spreading the lies that COVID is overblown and is just a flu -- and they have no excuse, they have first-hand government information stating how serious it is.
No. It's not just "elected officials." It is REPUBLICANS. Let's not pretend.
Yep. They've been benefiting from misinformation campaigns and conspiracy theories for a long time now. Medical truths aren't going to bend to motivated reasoning, but they will continue to try to spin it regardless.
Well, they're not visiting the Covid wards, and even when a Congressperson gets sick, they STILL Keep up the BS.... I agree, no excuse, it's criminal.
THIS. THis nurse. Yes. After 3 months hiatus, I am back at the local hospital. I was losing it. We all were. I've been back since September. I got an MD but never went for the boards b/c my training was enough to break me. I just do patient information and advocacy. I see families who won't admit it's real, who say we're killing Grandma in the ICU, try to bust in ---- if they're not stealing PPE to sell online. We have ot have volunteers stand guard so no one yanks the hand sanitizer dispensers off the walls. THIS IS KILLING PEOPLE AT NEARLY TEN TIMES THE RATE OF FLU SO FAR... Quarter-million dead as of today, I read. OUr infectious disease briefing today said we'll hit 300-310K by end of the year. That's only six weeks more... And another 50-70K dead to come. For the love of God, life and country, TAKE IT SERIOUSLY, then take it even more seriously. Peace andSTAY SAFE
@WildBerry... I am not a licensed practitioner. I admit it. I have an MD. I hold a medical degree. That is not the same thing. I make the distinction. Ergo, your "HA!" makes me embarrassed *for* you. Honestly, your gloating makes me wonder if you ever learned about psychology... and are in DENIAL about your own pathology.
Thank goodness for people like you Leo and all the First Line Medical Workers, without you all, the world would collapse under this pandemic. I've worked as CNA in TN and they typically do the grunt work, which I was happy to do at the time. I let my license lapse years ago but I still truly understand, appreciate, admire, and am very grateful to all the Nurses and Medical Workers working during this chaos right now. My heart goes out to each and every one of you.
Denial is part of the steps of the Grief model, but not the crazy way these AntiMaskers are Denying Covid-19 and the realities of the seriousness of the virus, illness, death, and destructive toll that it takes on the human body of the people who recover from it. Wildberry is trying to make these one in the same, when they are extremely different.
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HA! I was right in the other thread - you aren't a doctor. Look up the psychological mechanism called "DENIAL". You forgot what you were taught about it.
The stupidity is spreading like Covid. We are fighting 2 pandemics at this moment. And they both are dangerous and lethal. If only the deniers would be affected and die, it would be an enormous and very welcome cleaning of the gene pool, but as we all know not only the deniers die from Covid-19.
If there is any health care worker reading this, thank you.
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You're welcome.
In my country (Indonesia) still many people disbelieve in covid too... While my friends that still work as nurse all having the worst time in their career.. We already lost two of our senior in nursing school on the last 2 month.. If you never seeing a covid patient with bad condition, it is because of our struggle to keep this pandemi at bay..
@WildBerry I bet your an antivaxxer aren’t ya
KrabbyGramps666 haha
republicans should be ashamed of themselves.
They are not. They are still pulling the same dirty tricks now.
Stories like this are terrifying... and common. I firmly believe in freedom of speech but when lies are literally killing people, there should be consequences for the people willfully spreading them.
Yeah, freedom is speech is entirely a gimmick. Entirely. Every other country on earth gets by better by having meaningful and sensible censorship.
Yep. Freedom of Speech really only applies to a certain class of people in the US as well. Right now the rich are lying to keep profits up. Thank Sinclair for spreading these lies!
I read a very old description of how people reacted in Russia during a plageu outbreak about 200-300 years ago. It was pretty much exactly like the reaction of Covidiots today: denial, blaming the government, conspiracy theories, more denial, protests in the streets etc. It doesn't matter how much our technology evolves, because we obviously don't.
Interesting. I do wonder how much of an impact the internet/cable "news" has to this though. I don't think it would be as dire if these conspiracy theorists couldn't congregate so easily online, and if companies didn't control the narrative and spread around propaganda.
what do you do Ms.m
I'm a secretary in hospital administration.
Bless you. Seriously. Keeping the cogs turning is harder than it sounds like...
my mom used to work in the hospital she does not work there any more also i just wanted to ask how do you follow people on here
You click on their name which takes you to their profile and on their profile will be a follow option.
I live in a basement apt with my elderly Greek landlords upstairs. Beautiful apt and well kept home. These people care, are religious and courteous. The virus has shown me their true colours. As I am leaving Friday I bump into them and she tells me they are attending a Sunday wedding. Now the wife is coughing away and is clearly sick with something. I tell her my brother in laws father has just passed away from Covid at his nursing home and maybe she should be careful and not go to the wedding. Her response. Covid is fake. It is now Sunday and they are having about 30 people over from the wedding upstairs. This has been going on since the beginning with numerous BBQ's and get together. I cannot wait to find another job so I can move away from these crazy people.
Nowhere you could report her to?
A lot of moderately intelligent people have been saying for years: “I wish there was a disease that killed stupid people.” Now there is, but we were too stupid to realize we should have been more specific and wished for it to kill ONLY stupid people.
Unfortunately this only ends one way for us folks in the US and that's with alot' more deaths. We have half the population that doesn't believe this is a serious illness. Actual Covid-19 patients in hospitals that don't believe it's real. We can blame Republicans for this attitude (which they are) but what the hell is wrong with our society that people are cool with all these deaths?! We're about at 2000 daily deaths we can likely add another 100k before New Years. We've allowed the most ignorant to have such an influential voice in this country. We're now paying the price.
Society was given an education that was picked apart by Republicans. That’s literally how they even still have a voter base. By creating the least intelligent population in American history. It’s literally their fault. It always is.
Thanks! But ... please don't resign. I may be selfish here - although not in the US ... you have a really hard time over there ... anyway, thanks to all nurses, doctors, hospital janitors and all the people they meet every day!
I feel for all the front line workers, not an easy situation to be in. Doesn’t help when the government doesn’t help your cause and actually makes it worse. I am super grateful to our local government, they have done exceptional work during this crisis. I can’t imagine how difficult it is to make these unpopular decisions but it is necessary to be getting on top of the virus.
The people who say that coronavirus is like the flu make no sense to me. My father doesn't leave his house unless he is going to the doctor because that's how dangerous this illness is. I live in a small town of 11,000 people and we have 2,000 cases of coronavirus. Yet we still have people that want to go to restaurants and don't where masks when they go in stores. I work at a pizza buffet place and we have people who are upset because our dining room is closed right now and they can only pick up food.
I’m a perfectly healthy and pretty young person, and I don’t leave my house either. It’s too big of a risk, for anyone.
He's not wrong about taking vitamins, though. I read that 80-90% of the people with covid were found to be vitamin D deficient.
It can't hurt to take vitamin D, but I wouldn't rely on that along. By the way, out of curiosity, how many people in general are vitamin D deficient?
More than half, if I remember right. I’ve been supplementing on and off for like three years since I found out I was deficient.
Vitamin D and zinc.
"skillets" ? or skill sets.
If she quit over this, then the covid unbelievers are winning.
They may feel like winners while dying or dealing with long-term health issues, loss of family and friends, etc.
Nah, Covid is winning. Every human is losing.
Look. Folks don't believe covid is a real concern for a Number of reasons. For some they've had a family member with a very mild case and so base their understanding on limited second hand experience. Some see curated news or facebook posts. Some just don't want to believe there is such a scary thing out there and denial is easier. Some folks are poor, who have used alternative 'remedies' all their life. Garlic and onions worked for generations, by golly it will work on this. But how ever a person has gained their understanding of covid. Please don't judge them as stupid. Recognize them as having come to their options logically (however faulty and selective that logic is). It is our job to educate the incompletely educated. But to do it in a way that prioritizes the patients autonomy. We'd never make fun of someone who never learned to read and is dealing with illiteracy, would we? We also wouldn't take it personally that there are so many illiterate folks and get burnt out about it
Stupid is a word with a proper usage. Calling a covid denier “stupid” might not be nice, but it’s linguistically accurate. What you’re advocating for is to just phase out the word entirely, which really has nothing to do with garlic or covid.
Illiteracy can be caused by a learning disability or life circumstances. However it's not contagious. Educating people about Covid is necessary, but options are limited if people remain in denial. For example, if someone can't understand danger outside their personal experience, I don't think that medical practitioners have the time, energy or recklessness to offer them a tour of the Covid ward. We can all do our best, but sometimes imposing rules becomes the sole option to reduce contagion.
Insane. The only things to be believed in are democracy and religion. Anything else is to be known about if people who are smarter than you, more knowledgeable than you or make decisions about it say so.
what do you do Mrs.M
She said she is a secretary in hospital administration. It was up above so you would t have seen it.
She's asking herself! Either 2 bots conversing, or one idiot conversing with themselves.
A few facts: 1) Masks don't work 2) Asymptomatic transmission is a myth 3) At no time in history have healthy people been locked up to deal with a virus with a 99.997% survival rate. 4) 6% of Covid deaths are only from Covid 5) This is only about control. 6)Mandating masks has not kept death rates down anywhere. From the CDC, 85% of people who "always" or "often" wore masks were the percentage who contracted Covid. People who "never" or "rarely" wore a mask were the least likely to get Covid at 7.8%. Another study showed of 20 U.S. states that have never ordered people to wear face masks indoors and out have dramatically lower COVID-19 death rates than the 30 states that have mandated masks. Most of the no-mask states have COVID-19 death rates below 20 per 100,000 population, and none have a death rate higher than 55. All 13 states that have death rates higher than 55 are states that have required the wearing of masks in all public places. It has not protected them.
Maybe they will change the title, but where does she quit her job? Heyyyy... is this fake news?
She said so in one of the tweets.
You're right, My apologies. Reading skills are not strong today.
Very sad that people don't believe in covid, but for her to quit her job -a job which saves people's lives - because some people are fools, is utterly ridiculous snd will exacerbate the problem. Should a cancer specialist quit because some people dont think smoking and sunbeds cancer? Of course not. I feel sorry for her but quitting is not the answer. The right to medical care should not be based on beliefs of the patient.
She has free will. It isn't her duty to risk her life for people who didn't do all they could to avoid getting ill. There are many who think that people who refuse to wear masks and socially distance should sign a contract refusing care if they get sick.
You should go risk your life to replace her.
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My father was in the covid ICU and he passed away. The staff stole the wedding ring he wore for 59 years. It was the only thing of his my mother wanted. Hospital gave zero f's. I get the the staff may feel unappreciated at times, but the patients don't get the treatment they deserve sometimes, too. This was in St. Peter's hospital in Albany, NY. It's supposed to be a very nice hospital. Hospital shrugged and said they were sorry we had a 'bad experience'.
1. I'm sorry for your loss. 2. Don't ever let a patient stay in the hospital with any valuables. 3. Staff should have made a "Valuables and Personal Belongings List" when he was admitted. If the ring is listed, your family must be compensated for its loss. Talk to the hospital administration and hire a lawyer to write the hospital a letter demanding payment for the ring.
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Sounds like she is just bad at her job or too new. The best and experienced stop caring about those with a prerogative to die. The really good medical staff that care know to do their best half assed job on the worthless and save effort for those that aren't trying to kill themselves with stupidity, denial, smoking or cheeseburgers
And the last part is wrong. We have to do our best for EVERY patient regardless of their choices or believes, to do otherwise would be unethical.
Not necessarily. I've been a healthcare worker for 15 years now and this s**t is seriously making me wanna quit. The burnout from is all is really getting to me. She deals with it everyday, sees deniers all over social media, and probably hit a breaking point. Easy to do when someone tells you it's all a hoax probably shortly after you literally just watched someone die from it.
If you are in healthcare and saying "Oh, that patient earned their fate," then get the eff out of the field. You never half-ass, and there is not "best half-assed job". Half-assing it kills people. B/c we're not judges.
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No, no, and NO!!!! This repeated nonsense of suggesting that Covid-19 is much worse than 'flu' needs to stop, once and for all. There is no doubt that Covid-19 is a dangerous and highly infectious disease, but it is simply a variety of a coronavirus. 'Flu' also comes in many varieties and some are far, far more dangerous than Covid-19. For example, H5N1 strain has a mortality rate of 50%. Half of everyone who catches it will die!!!!!!! It is just as well that Covid-19 is not as bad as'flu'.
Covid is WORSE than the flu. For example on average 300,000-600,000 people die annually from the flu, but in just ONE single year we have had over 1.34 million covid deaths. The infection rate for the flu from one person is 1.3, yet covid is 2-2.5. Incubation time for the flu is 1-4 days yet Covid is 1-14 days. Flu hospitalisation rates is 2% and covid is 19%, death rate for flu is .1% yet Covid is 1-3.4%. The other big difference is that we still don’t know the long term side effects of Covid.
Peter Kelly, whatever semantics you use, some of would rather not be a test group for viruses.
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I support your decision. The virus is real whether people believe it or not. However, I know several people in the healthcare industry, some family members, who have quit their jobs because they were instructed to give false information inflating both case counts and hospital occupancy numbers...to be specific..."say this and let the media handle the rest". So who do we actually believe? It's sad that we cant just find a middle ground on this.
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99.96% survival rate.
THAT is the attitude that needs to go.
So let’s say that’s accurate. 99.96 percent of the world’s population gets it, and recovers. That means 31,000,000 people die. That is not an acceptable number. That is nearly three times the number of people killed under 6 years of Hitler. When you take into account that that figure is completely inaccurate, it will be closer to 100,000,000 people that die, and thousands will die daily until we get our collective s**t together
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She quits because of one patient's ignorance? um ok.
She said there were many reasons and she relayed just this one. And who the hell are you to criticize another person's personal life choices.
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I'll criticize it too. When my family saw this story (we're ALL in healthcare), we all said this nurse is just attention seeking. In all of my years, I've NEVER once seen EVERY PATIENT in the ICU or CCU or any other step-up unit get their blood glucoses checked. She said she was doing finger sticks for the whole unit. I say BS. And, this board is for expressing opinions, not just those opinions that are like yours!
I'm sure there are tons of reasons why she did. My mom had very mild covid in August and was still treated in the hospital because of her diabetes and high blood pressure. I've had to sleep in the same room with her till date because when she's alone she panics and gets anxiety. She wasn't in emergency or anything, just a regular recovery room for 11 days, but she saw others around her that she knew would not make it through the night and heard of how the patients in the next rooms had very little hope of survival. I can't even begin to imagine what medical staff feels like. I'm sure they feel like failures in many way even though it's not their fault and out of their control.
I had to take 3 month hiatus from my volunteer work. A doc at our hospital committed suicide. Helathcare workers are stressed on *good* days. This is the worst year most have ever seen or will ever see. I've re-evaluated MY life and decided I'd like to keep risking it just so people are a little less scared of the big scary medical stuff. This nurse decided she needed to do something else. No blame or shame to her. You've no idea till you've heard that death rattle, @ Minnie-me. No idea. May you never *need* to hear it.
@Wildberry, Guess what? Some of my family are healthcare, too, and with one exception (the family disgrace, btw) we NEVER speak so callously about the toll this takes on all of us and our co-workers, EMTs, etc. Patients matter. They are living beings. To be detached from the patient outcome? To not search one's own soul and actions, to be sure everything was done? No, we don't make them sick. That doesn't mean we, as in healthcare workers of all types, shouldn't give our all every day. So we burn out sometimes. We break down. We wonder.. "Did I do everything? Did I miss osmething?"... And if you don't have any compassion or conscience, WTF are you doing in healthcare?!
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Healthcare professionals do not feel like failures because we didn't make the person ill and to a large extent, we can't control it. If everyone in healthcare felt like a failure, we would have no one manning ambulances, or clinics, or hospitals. True, there are some who are not cut out for the work and they leave. Dentists used to have a high suicide rate - not sure if they still do - but why? No one dies at the dentist office. It's because of something else.
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I understand her frustrations and it must suck to do her job right now, but that doesn't change the fact that we've gone generations into debt for something with a 99%+ survival rate. What happens when another one hits in say, 8 years? Do we shut down the world again? We literally can't afford to and we'll be super f****d if the next one is mega deadly like the black death was. We've overreacted in the most horrible of ways.
If we are smart we make a plan in case this happens again. The frustration you are feeling is normal and everything you were use to has completely changed. You say we overreacted, when we didn't have leadership to tell us to come together and defeat this new enemy. Yes you "can" survive, but you won't be entirely the same afterwards.
@Full Name, read up on post-Covid complications and "morbidities". These are things that, after a disease is "cured", will still affect a patient for years or for life. The fact you're likely to survive a car crash doesn't lead to expectations of a "normal" life after, so why assume that with this virus?!
Good points, Jordan. Thank you.
@wildberry And guess what? The countries that shut down immediately are business as usual today, with 0, read, 0 new cases.
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Are you saying the entire world didn't have leadership? How can that be because most countries reacted the same way and that was to shut down. Regardless of wearing a mask like other countries did, people died. When we have the next plague, people will die then too.