Woman Shares Her Opinion About ‘Non-Traditional’ Women, And The Internet Claps Back
Krista Shanelle is a 29-year-old from Georgetown who writes articles about various topics, especially those involving womanhood, relationships, and social issues. Recently, Shanelle took to Facebook to share her opinion about ‘non-traditional’ women expecting to meet ‘traditional’ men, and how this makes no sense. According to Krista, she hopes to shed light on underground topics, “I started sharing my opinions on relationships for about a year, but I wasn’t consistent with it. I’ve only been doing it consistently for about 6 months. My goal is to make traditional family and relationship values popular again, at least for a small fraction of women and men. I realize that most won’t accept the traditional way,” Krista told Bored Panda.
Krista’s post received a lot of attention on social media, many people agreed with her while some said that she forgets such problems are clear power imbalances between men and women.
Scroll down to read her post yourself and don’t forget to tell us what you think in the comments!
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Shanelle is a 29-year-old who writes articles about various topics, especially those involving womanhood, relationships, and social issues
Recently, Shanelle took to Facebook to share her opinion about ‘non-traditional’ women expecting to meet ‘traditional’ men, and how this makes no sense
Many people agreed with Shanelle saying she had finally expressed what many of us thought about the topic
While others disagreed by saying that Shanelle might be forgetting major problems such as clear power imbalances between men and women
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Both sides are thrashing strawmen. Who are these women who want a non-traditonal lifestyle for themselves and still want a traditional partner? What would such a relationship even look like? She's in a ménage à trois but the man involved wants his dinner on the plate by 5 pm like a real 50s man? There's a gender neutral term for people who want advantages for themselves while keeping their partners from having the same freedoms: a******s. Guy wants his girlfriend to do all the housework while both have fulltime jobs? A*****e. Girl wants to grow out her armpit hair but insists her boyfriend has to be clean shaven? A*****e. This isn't about feminism, it's about assholery. Everyone can be guilty of it, no matter what dangles between their legs or not.
Nearly broke my screen smashing the up button. Thank you! Good to know that there are still some sensible people out there who have the ability to treat things case by case or person by person. I don’t know why we have to be so divisive and generalize every damn thing these days.
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What on earth does she think a traditional 1950's man is? I think of one who believes he runs the world and his wife because of his gender, is condescending in his affectionate tolerance towards his wife who he views as overly emotional and not a great thinker. One who is authoritarian and makes all the money and all the decisions, and just want a pretty woman to stay home and pamper him. Who wants that man?? I want a partner who I can navigate life *together* with, not just be a helpful component of him navigating his own life.
She means women who claim to want to be "equal" but still demand special treatment, such as feminists who still think men should pay for dates and who won't raise their hands to a woman, even if the woman hits first.
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When in the world can we all stop arguing and just...be? With each other. As equals. And friends. Men and women, women and men. We're all the same. Years ago some stupid people decided we weren't, but if we all got together and listened to each other it would easier to sort things out, rather then bashing each other over social media.
YES ! Men and women are partners, not opponents. Side by side, not in front of each other. It's SO MUCH more fun this way !
Load More Replies... That's barely an opinion. She needs to elaborate more; I have no idea of what she means by "non-trditional women wanting a traditional man". Who are these woman? What kind of lifestyle do they have/want? Where are they?...
Traditional, basically a woman who stays home and looks after the house and kids and a man who works and pays the bills etc.
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Would love to be a 1950's housewife. With all the modern tech you could get the housework done in half the time, then surf the net :)
uuuh... what exactely is as "non-traditional" lifestyle here? Single women with a job? I am confused. Most women don't wait for a man willing to "protect and provide" for them. This girl sounds like she hasn't really lived outside her twitter bubble. Posting something just to get fake internet points...
She's just suffering from a severe case of "I'm-not-like-other-girls" syndrome - throwing other women under the bus in the hopes that men will see her as one of the "cool" girls. Her argument, if you can call it that, would only make sense if you believe in stereotypes and traditional gender roles. And even then, why in the world would a "non-traditional" woman want a 1950s man?
Excuse me for wanting to be with a real human being instead of a anachronistic stereotype. Thanks, but I'll take someone with more depth, personality, common sense, flexibilty, independance and consideration. Someone to have actual conversations with, to tackle challenges, laugh with, cry with and to share my journey with. I'll take my best friend over your parody of a relationship any day.
I'm sorry, but this is just wrong on so many levels.This woman clearly has no idea what being a non-traditional woman means. What woman wants to "describe what real manhood is?" Also, who says that man are to feminine- in my experience only other man. It's also funny how other people in the comments say that she refers to "man paying for everything" but she's not even mentioning money and paying. From her last sentence it seems that she's one of those traditional women who think that women's job is to "respect men" while men job is to "protect and provide". The idea is to respect each other, to protect each other and provide for each other, Shalom. That what a "nontraditional" women want. Too bad you can't see that.
There are many reasons why this article is not flowing. I am a femenist and the way this is worded, it is giving a green card for stupid men. I understood the POV and i agree. However having been a victim of assaukt by women i don't think this article is worded ina way that makes its purpose.
I am a traditional woman who wants a traditional man. Dont know if this is okay anymore
It is OK but you'll get plenty of people telling you it's wrong by their standards. Live your life as you see fit, it's nobody's decision but yours.
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"This is toxic s**t and is normalizing to abusive patterns of behaviour"? Which gender studies professor told you that? If wanting men and woman to understand that people are all individuals and we need to be aware of our own hypocrisy when demanding the other side be a certain way is toxic, then slap a hazmat logo on me.
i hated that one too. sounds like they just slapped all the latest buzzwords together. they probably say it about everything even slightly gender related
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The use of the word "non-traditional" is misleading. What IS traditional? I certainly do not think of the 1950s housewife as traditional! MAYBE my mom did? Or her Mom?? These days, it is not taken for granted that a woman wants to be a stay-at-home-mom or a housewife and it's not taken for granted that she wants to be uber-successful-career woman. I think this article is thought provoking, but doesn't cover all of the proverbial bases and we've got a bit farther to go until the pendulum stops swinging.
This reminds me of roald Dahl's "lamb to the slaughter". Read it b it's brilliant.
I don't want a 1950s husband...Whats wrong with some modern equity and respect in a relationship? If you want the lifestyle of a housewife and a working husband, sure, if you want to be a househusband and a working wife, why not? both work? surely!
The same thing happens with comments: if you don't like them, you call them bashing. Anybody with different train of thought is seen as a troll even if the person is just expressing their opinion without any interest on changing yours.
She has a point. The way people express and give themselves out to others really can be important. Don’t be a hypocrite, you can’t have certain expectations and then change views because of a person’s sex. Be true to yourself and stick with a decision firmly. Things like this show that some people have forgotten the definition of certain important things
She seems quite clueless. A traditional 1950 man isn't a nice husband. Its sad any stupidity gets so much attention these days.
"Woman Gives Lecture On Being A ‘Non-Traditional’ Woman And The Internet Claps Back" Can someone define "Claps Back"? Shares their opinion? What a click bait BS headline and my dumb butt fell for it again.... Congrats BP
What is a traditional 1950s man? What's a 1950s woman? Each answer differs by class, race, religion. So I'm confused by her ranting. Is it Provider vs Homemaker? Nowadays I see men staying at home with kids while their wives are the breadwinner, and they're just fine with it because they are a team. It's 2018, we all make our own traditions.
ANY criticism that is not constructive is bashing or at least an unwanted opinion.
She's has a point. You can't want equality while expecting chivalry. It's got to be one or the other. As the saying goes, you can't have your cake and eat it too.
If in place of "chivalry" you think of it as simply courteous, considerate behaviour, whether demonstrated by man, woman, or otherwise, then yes you can expect both. Give everyone the opportunity of equality and expect everyone to treat each other with courtesy, and you don't have to choose one or the other. A man can hold open a door for a woman, as can a woman. I hold doors for anyone. So you get the effect of chivalry, but it comes from all genders.
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I don't want to be 50's housewife and I don't want a man to be a 50's husband either. No thanks.
That’s extremely weak. Does she know what a 1950’s man even is? She’s just trying to get attention by dismissing feminism with her straw men. If she cares so much about social justice, she should look into where that human-hair hairpiece comes from and why that is a slap in the face of feminism.
Both sides are thrashing strawmen. Who are these women who want a non-traditonal lifestyle for themselves and still want a traditional partner? What would such a relationship even look like? She's in a ménage à trois but the man involved wants his dinner on the plate by 5 pm like a real 50s man? There's a gender neutral term for people who want advantages for themselves while keeping their partners from having the same freedoms: a******s. Guy wants his girlfriend to do all the housework while both have fulltime jobs? A*****e. Girl wants to grow out her armpit hair but insists her boyfriend has to be clean shaven? A*****e. This isn't about feminism, it's about assholery. Everyone can be guilty of it, no matter what dangles between their legs or not.
Nearly broke my screen smashing the up button. Thank you! Good to know that there are still some sensible people out there who have the ability to treat things case by case or person by person. I don’t know why we have to be so divisive and generalize every damn thing these days.
Load More Replies... What on earth does she think a traditional 1950's man is? I think of one who believes he runs the world and his wife because of his gender, is condescending in his affectionate tolerance towards his wife who he views as overly emotional and not a great thinker. One who is authoritarian and makes all the money and all the decisions, and just want a pretty woman to stay home and pamper him. Who wants that man?? I want a partner who I can navigate life *together* with, not just be a helpful component of him navigating his own life.
She means women who claim to want to be "equal" but still demand special treatment, such as feminists who still think men should pay for dates and who won't raise their hands to a woman, even if the woman hits first.
Load More Replies... When in the world can we all stop arguing and just...be? With each other. As equals. And friends. Men and women, women and men. We're all the same. Years ago some stupid people decided we weren't, but if we all got together and listened to each other it would easier to sort things out, rather then bashing each other over social media.
YES ! Men and women are partners, not opponents. Side by side, not in front of each other. It's SO MUCH more fun this way !
Load More Replies... That's barely an opinion. She needs to elaborate more; I have no idea of what she means by "non-trditional women wanting a traditional man". Who are these woman? What kind of lifestyle do they have/want? Where are they?...
Traditional, basically a woman who stays home and looks after the house and kids and a man who works and pays the bills etc.
Load More Replies... Would love to be a 1950's housewife. With all the modern tech you could get the housework done in half the time, then surf the net :)
uuuh... what exactely is as "non-traditional" lifestyle here? Single women with a job? I am confused. Most women don't wait for a man willing to "protect and provide" for them. This girl sounds like she hasn't really lived outside her twitter bubble. Posting something just to get fake internet points...
She's just suffering from a severe case of "I'm-not-like-other-girls" syndrome - throwing other women under the bus in the hopes that men will see her as one of the "cool" girls. Her argument, if you can call it that, would only make sense if you believe in stereotypes and traditional gender roles. And even then, why in the world would a "non-traditional" woman want a 1950s man?
Excuse me for wanting to be with a real human being instead of a anachronistic stereotype. Thanks, but I'll take someone with more depth, personality, common sense, flexibilty, independance and consideration. Someone to have actual conversations with, to tackle challenges, laugh with, cry with and to share my journey with. I'll take my best friend over your parody of a relationship any day.
I'm sorry, but this is just wrong on so many levels.This woman clearly has no idea what being a non-traditional woman means. What woman wants to "describe what real manhood is?" Also, who says that man are to feminine- in my experience only other man. It's also funny how other people in the comments say that she refers to "man paying for everything" but she's not even mentioning money and paying. From her last sentence it seems that she's one of those traditional women who think that women's job is to "respect men" while men job is to "protect and provide". The idea is to respect each other, to protect each other and provide for each other, Shalom. That what a "nontraditional" women want. Too bad you can't see that.
There are many reasons why this article is not flowing. I am a femenist and the way this is worded, it is giving a green card for stupid men. I understood the POV and i agree. However having been a victim of assaukt by women i don't think this article is worded ina way that makes its purpose.
I am a traditional woman who wants a traditional man. Dont know if this is okay anymore
It is OK but you'll get plenty of people telling you it's wrong by their standards. Live your life as you see fit, it's nobody's decision but yours.
Load More Replies... "This is toxic s**t and is normalizing to abusive patterns of behaviour"? Which gender studies professor told you that? If wanting men and woman to understand that people are all individuals and we need to be aware of our own hypocrisy when demanding the other side be a certain way is toxic, then slap a hazmat logo on me.
i hated that one too. sounds like they just slapped all the latest buzzwords together. they probably say it about everything even slightly gender related
Load More Replies... The use of the word "non-traditional" is misleading. What IS traditional? I certainly do not think of the 1950s housewife as traditional! MAYBE my mom did? Or her Mom?? These days, it is not taken for granted that a woman wants to be a stay-at-home-mom or a housewife and it's not taken for granted that she wants to be uber-successful-career woman. I think this article is thought provoking, but doesn't cover all of the proverbial bases and we've got a bit farther to go until the pendulum stops swinging.
This reminds me of roald Dahl's "lamb to the slaughter". Read it b it's brilliant.
I don't want a 1950s husband...Whats wrong with some modern equity and respect in a relationship? If you want the lifestyle of a housewife and a working husband, sure, if you want to be a househusband and a working wife, why not? both work? surely!
The same thing happens with comments: if you don't like them, you call them bashing. Anybody with different train of thought is seen as a troll even if the person is just expressing their opinion without any interest on changing yours.
She has a point. The way people express and give themselves out to others really can be important. Don’t be a hypocrite, you can’t have certain expectations and then change views because of a person’s sex. Be true to yourself and stick with a decision firmly. Things like this show that some people have forgotten the definition of certain important things
She seems quite clueless. A traditional 1950 man isn't a nice husband. Its sad any stupidity gets so much attention these days.
"Woman Gives Lecture On Being A ‘Non-Traditional’ Woman And The Internet Claps Back" Can someone define "Claps Back"? Shares their opinion? What a click bait BS headline and my dumb butt fell for it again.... Congrats BP
What is a traditional 1950s man? What's a 1950s woman? Each answer differs by class, race, religion. So I'm confused by her ranting. Is it Provider vs Homemaker? Nowadays I see men staying at home with kids while their wives are the breadwinner, and they're just fine with it because they are a team. It's 2018, we all make our own traditions.
ANY criticism that is not constructive is bashing or at least an unwanted opinion.
She's has a point. You can't want equality while expecting chivalry. It's got to be one or the other. As the saying goes, you can't have your cake and eat it too.
If in place of "chivalry" you think of it as simply courteous, considerate behaviour, whether demonstrated by man, woman, or otherwise, then yes you can expect both. Give everyone the opportunity of equality and expect everyone to treat each other with courtesy, and you don't have to choose one or the other. A man can hold open a door for a woman, as can a woman. I hold doors for anyone. So you get the effect of chivalry, but it comes from all genders.
Load More Replies... I don't want to be 50's housewife and I don't want a man to be a 50's husband either. No thanks.
That’s extremely weak. Does she know what a 1950’s man even is? She’s just trying to get attention by dismissing feminism with her straw men. If she cares so much about social justice, she should look into where that human-hair hairpiece comes from and why that is a slap in the face of feminism.
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