“Stop Complaining About Your Neighbors”: Guy Maliciously Complies To Landlord’s Request, Waits Until Neighbor Falls Through The Ceiling
InterviewMoving into a new apartment is always a bit of a gamble. Will your neighbors be blaring techno music all hours of the night? Will your landlord actually repair that smoke detector she assured you not to worry about before you signed the lease? We hope that the transition will go smoothly, but when conflicts inevitably arise between neighbors, it can be uncomfortable to bring them up for fear of creating irreversible tension. If you are lucky, neighbors and landlords will be accommodating and promptly resolve any issues. Unfortunately for one tenant and his roommate, they seemed to have ended up with a double whammy of extremely noisy neighbors and an apathetic landlord.
Two weeks ago, Reddit user TheAngryArcanist shared the story of how he moved into an apartment, that was supposedly soundproof, then quickly learned that was not the case after a couple moved in upstairs. After making a conscious effort to be a courteous, almost silent neighbor, this renter was horrified when confronted with neighbors who were making constant noise “from 5am to past midnight, five days in a row, dropping stuff, speaking loudly, yelling or walking in their apartment with shoes on”. Apparently not everyone is concerned about being a respectful neighbor… Below you will find the details of his story as well as an interview between TheAngryArcanist and Bored Panda.
After extremely loud neighbors moved in upstairs, a concerned tenant reached out to his landlord about concerns for his safety
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Apparently the upstairs neighbor had been doing bench presses in his living room
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After the apartment became uninhabitable, the residents checked into a hotel until they could determine their next steps
Renting horror stories such as these do beg the question, why is having a terrible experience with a landlord so relatable? After recounting his tale on Reddit, TheAngryArcanist even mentions, “Let’s be honest, [we’ve] all had worse, landlord wise.” Especially considering how common renting is, this should not be the case. According to a 2021 study conducted by the Pew Research Center, renters occupied about 36% of US households in 2019. And nearly half of these tenants were spending 30% or more of their gross incomes on rent. With so many people relying on rented housing and spending a third of their incomes on it, the last thing these tenants should have to worry about is their landlords or neighbors negatively affecting their well being.
Since the initial post, the landlord has made an effort to resolve the situation and avoid any legal battle
Image credits: TheAngryArcanist
Disturbances from neighbors can certainly impact residents’ moods, but widespread noise pollution is an even more prominent issue, especially for those dwelling in cities. According to Dr. David Rojas at the Barcelona Institute for Global Health in Spain, noise pollution in our daily lives greatly impacts our quality of life. In his speech at the 2018 Green Week conference in Brussels, he shared that noise pollution is a major public health concern. In Barcelona, it has become an even greater risk factor than air pollution. He explained that our brains need to have a break from constant stimulus. “When we have a background noise, the brain has the capacity to adapt,” he said. “You don’t see it as an annoyance so much and you start to accept… But even if you are not conscious of the noise, this is still stimulating your organic system.” We may not realize how this affects us, but the European Environment Agency estimates that in Europe “22 million people suffer chronic high annoyance and 6.5 million people suffer chronic high sleep disturbance” due to environmental noise.
In terms of being a courteous neighbor, TheAngryArcanist told Bored Panda, “I do think it is rather common to have different [levels] of dissatisfaction with neighbors and landlords, but then again, when living in an apartment, one must learn to accept the fact that they are sharing the same location, with just a few pieces of wood separating one from the others.” He will certainly be more cautious when choosing future housing as well. “If I decide to move into another apartment, I’m definitely visiting my neighbors and [asking] them if we can make a few inspections in regards to sound,” he told us. “If my landlord or neighbor is not comfortable with this one-time inspection… I will not be settling into an apartment where I have people over my head.” A negligent landlord and disruptive neighbors in close proximity are frustrating in their own rights, but being subjected to incessant noise infringes on tenants’ quality of life. There is already plenty of chaos disturbing our lives in the outside world, we should be able to rely on our landlords and communities to ensure we have a safe and comfortable space at home.
Readers have shared their laughter, anger and sympathy towards the crazy story
Below you can read the full interview between Bored Panda and TheAngryArcanist
When asked if he and his roommate have decided what they are going to do next, TheAngryArcanist told us, “We have decided to take the deal of our landlord, and might just settle back in our old apartment if everything is done properly and soundproofing is in place. We are still waiting on an independent inspection to come and check the apartment building, but this is our expectations for now. While he has been dismissive in the past of our worries, it has been made clear to him that the events that have transpired were due to his disregard for our concerns which caused our disregards for him, his property and our neighbors. My brother, a lawyer, did a pro-bono or me to make sure that the offer that he made was in writing and notarized and binding for the next few years.”
We also asked if he thinks it is common to have negative experiences with neighbors and landlords when renting. “I do think it is rather common to have different level of dissatisfaction,” he said. “But then again, when living in an apartment, one must learn to accept the fact that they are sharing the same location, with just a few pieces of wood separating one from the others. Because a lot of people are either entitled or just downright rude, neighborly wars are rather common, something I didn’t want to go through because they can get out of control and cause more harm than good. The neighbor in that story did not care whether or not I was uncomfortable and was unwilling to compromise so we would all be able to have a peaceful cohabitation.” Yet somehow he remains optimistic, “I have also met a lot of very nice neighbors when living in certain apartments complexes, so I cannot say if this is something common or I just had bad luck this time.”
When asked how this will affect his behavior in the future, he told us, “It might affect how I handle this particular landlord in the future, but I also will be much more careful about where I decide to move. ‘Fully renovated’ does not mean it has been properly done, or that they removed all possible issues with the structure, and there were no soundproofing between the apartments. Also, if I decide to move into another apartment, I’m definitely visiting my neighbors and [asking] them if we can make a few inspections in regards to sound. If my landlord or neighbor is not comfortable with this one-time inspection (while I do understand that it is a bit of an odd inspection), I will not be settling into an apartment where I have people over my head.”
Lastly, he wanted to express his gratitude to the readers. “I would like to thank everyone who has replied to the post. They have been very supportive for most of them, and have provided sound advise and encouragement that definitely was nice to read.”
That upstairs neighbour has almost certainly been kicked out of several gyms for disobeying the rule about dropping weights. That's why he was working out at home.
This. The neighbour was repeatedly hitting the floor with the equivalent of a heavy sledgehammer. No floor resists that. Gyms which permit dropping weights use something to protect the floor like a special platform, heavy duty mats or have bumper plates. Dropping your weights anywhere else in the gym will get you banned. AKA destroying the floor will get you banned. The weight by itself shouldn't be the issue. Lets say it was 100 kg = a slightly fat dude. Or he was doing deadlifts ≈ a fat dude.
Load More Replies...Consult with your lawyer-brother obviously but if it is a fair deal and you aren’t likely to get more, take it! Suing is time consuming and expensive and it won’t make you rich. You got your I told you so and I’m sure your landlord is going to suffer enough.
Of course he’s being nice now. He probably spoke to his own lawyer who said it would ruin the reputation of him and his buildings- not to mention the damages you could be awarded. He’s kissing your behind on purpose. Beware.
I think the landlord will sell that building off in a few years, and if the contract doesn't transfer, then they won't have cheaper rent anymore.
Load More Replies...Honestly, this sounds like the landlord's settlement is more than fair, but also sounds like the upstairs neighbor should be sued because they should never have had that kind of equipment on an upper floor without permission (due to the need for specific reinforcement). I think OP should take the settlement, but make sure it's treated as a legal settlement and not just a handshake and a promise. Then see if they can go after the neighbor for endangerment. Otherwise, dealing with the neighbor is the landlord's problem.
I would take the deal he's offering. Sometimes people can be very sue-happy, looking for any chance to get rich and destroy the other person for life. Obviously there was clear neglect, but it doesn't sound like the landlord is being cheap now. He made a big mistake and now wants to fix it and survive like anyone else. If the poster wasn't injured, there's enough to replace anything that was damaged, housing is provided for at the hotel and then good apartment later, and great deal on future rent, that's really all you need.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes, that is, if you're the neighbor and landlord.
This gives a whole new meaning to "Breaking and entering".
That was handled very well on OP's end. They had documentation instead of sending 100% of the complaints in voice. Always email this stuff, it can help in cases like this. This jazz should have been inspected and updated accordingly to the current laws. Any lacking of features mentioned and lead to some charges/lawsuits.
I've seen apartment buildings and houses built & finished in a few months - I always wonder how structurally sound they really are. And in some parts of the U.S., with high humidity, high moisture levels (heavy rain, hurricanes), and termites, older buildings can be very unsafe. The OP & roommate were very lucky!
Yeesh! Most landlords won't even allow waterbeds on any upper floors. Only allowed on ground level, built on slab housing. Due to the weight. Anyone with a brain knows that weight lifting equipment needs to be ground-level, basement or garage.
That is not a weight issue. Do you realize the damage you would cause if a water bed sprung a leak? That is why they aren't allowed.
Load More Replies...I had some shitty landlords in my time who tried to screw me out of money. Sucks that the first one didn't know I worked at a law school and worked for the lawyer who wrote the Chicago Tenant's Rights book in the early 90s. Imagine his horror when he got a letter from that lawyer letting him know he was violating my rights and I could press charges. Second landlord tried to screw me out of money and a good friend's family lawyer's passion was going after shitty landlords, so he took care of that one for me too. After that, I sent a copy of the Maine Tenant's Rights book (or whatever it was called) to every tenant of his with a letter explaining what he did to me. Same landlord removed all the light fixtures from an apartment when the people gave 60 days notice. He also left a pizza box on a gas stove while attending a party he crashed in one apartment. It caught fire and he tried to charge the tenants. Dude was demented. I hope he's not still a landlord.
When I was living in the last apartment before we bought our home, our upstairs neighbor used to do deadlifts in the apartment and didn't have the decency to just place the bar and weights on the floor, and instead he'd drop them. It used to knock pictures and paintings off the walls, items off shelves, and so on.
I guess the lesson is to put a clause in the lease that you can't use weights over so many pounds, but what kind of schmuck thinks that's ok in the first place? Those people got stuck between a wannabe Rock and a hard headed landlord. They should do what they think is best, but that landlord needs outed to the public. Goodness knows what else he has overlooked in other locations.
Weights are fine if you aren't dropping them. There's a reason pretty much every gym in existence has a rule about not doing that. This meathead has almost certainly been kicked out of several gyms for not following that rule.
Load More Replies...Befoe becoming homeowners, we lived in apartments, in various states. One experience with loud, upstairs neighbors taught us valuable lessons: : Always rent an upstairs apartment (with no apartment above) and always behave like a neighbor you'd want next door to you.
Maybe the landlord should have been told when the cracks 1st appeared. This seems like an extreme way to make a point.
Agreed, leaving someone who had a language barrier and a case of being a jack@$$ in the hospital not with "gruesome injuries " is hardly justified. OP is not the hero they think they are.
Load More Replies...Sometimes living in an apartment building suck. I went through the same situation but in the reverse I lived upstairs in the ruthless noisy neighbors live downstairs a 2 bedroom apartment with 10 people music all seven days a week I had to move out to get any type of solace. Two day after I moved out the condo owner put it for sale he’s furious with the building management.
I am a landlord. I had an obnoxious neighbour with 4 dogs that never got out. This went on for 4 years. One day I downloaded a decibel app. Even from outside, the noise hit 109 dB. I was all set to sue, when she had the common sense to die.
At least the landlord was really generous in trying to avoid the lawsuit. I've been living in a nightmare sandwich between my upstairs and downstairs neighbors and my landlord is only now, after 2 years of problems, evicting the upstairs neighbors. I would do anything for soundproofing. The neighbors upstairs fought to the point the next door neighbors signed a petition to have the landlord fined, nevermind the amount of times we, in the building, called the cops and told the landlord. Cops just came and told them to stop then left. Never did anything. But the landlord finally evicted them because he lost 2 other tenents to the insanity and I told him I was going to leave, too. So they finally moved out last weekend. But still dealing with the downstairs neighbors who just blast their music every day at all hours. I want to move so bad but I can't afford it right now. It's so crazy expensive to live in my area.
Just food for thought, the landlords might have been stuck too in recent 2 years. There has been a moratorium on evictions etc, and landlords had to prove at a very high bar, that eviction was necessary. I know those moratorium were there for a reason and so many families kept a roof over their heads because of it. Just as many took advantage of the situation and were helll to their landlords and neighbors, with not much to be done about it.
Load More Replies...Sorry but this is one time I say go to court. You were very lucky you and/or your roommate weren't walking through and had this fall on you. The upstairs neighbor is definitely 50% of the cause but there is no way that floor should have given way like it did. It wasn't meant to handle weights being dropped on it but had there been a big,heavy aquarium it likely would have come down as well. When you have multiple stories the floors and ceilings must be even sturdier than what is normal for a single story and this is obviously not the case. If I were in the inspectors office all of his rentals would be heavily scrutinized. The fact that he was also mean and nasty to you when you warned him was pretty crappy but to try to say you should have tried harder to warn him is BS and the only reason he is feeling so generous now is because his attorney's have advised him that he is screwed and it's going to cost him a boatload of money if you sue. Otherwise you would still be living the same way
Thing is, aquariums need special reinforced joists too. Anything over a 75 gallon tank does really. Most landlords won't allow them on anything but the main floor either. I would never put one in the second story of my house without having someone inspect and reinforce it.
Load More Replies...The person who says that making noise early and late "is a bit rude" um, no, it's actually against the law. Most places have noise ordinances so you can't make loud noises during certain hours of the day.
The city of Springfield OR just tells you it's a civil matter and won't respind.
Load More Replies...Gym I used to go to only had heavy weights on the ground floor for a reason. Also when you bench press, if you drop the weight, it lands on YOU (unless you're doing it with dumbells instead of a barbell for some reason). Was probably doing something else.
Many people bench with dumbells btw. It provides more work for different muscles. When I used to, I would alternate between the two for that reason. It was probably causes though when removing or switching the weights on the barbell.
Load More Replies...Eh no. I would have pressed charges. Both the landlord and the neighbor should have been sued for every penny they have. That kind of idiot only learns when it hurts their wallet.
Again, as a landlord, it's extremely unwise to ignore tenant complaints. It's true that some people will whine about anything. And heaven help you if there's a mouse and a female tenant. But most of the time they are too shy to say anything. Second point. You can have your membership canceled at my gym for dropping weights. Besides. You don't get the full range if motion workout.
Agree with everything except why do you have to put a comment in about God help you if you get a female tenant and mouse! Really necessary? There are plenty of men afraid of mice and bugs. I live with one and I welcome a cute furry creature to live with us. Does that blow your mind?
Load More Replies...I feel 4 these renters. I live in a duplex & the past 16 yrs we had many complaints. The other sides garage is our adjoining wall, the first renters had 40 bags of garbage in their garage which lead to mice in the walls/ceiling. Another renter worked on their cars in their garage clang, bang etc at all hours. This is a no dog, no smoking duplex & we can't use our backyard due 2 dog constantly barklng, can't use patio due 2 cig & pot smoke, we can't have the back door open for fresh air. Another renter had fits & threw bottles against the adjoining wall, anothers children would throw tools in our yard, if we missed seeing them would damage the blade of our mower. The worst is when their mother had sex on our shared patio. The property mgr said maybe this isn't the right place 4 you. WTH. So I stopped complaining & did not report that they removed roof vents = leaks. Also found this place has high levels or meth residue! No clean up & no place 2 move 2.
I lived in an apartment I owned on second floor. Told I couldn’t here neighbors. Wrong. While the ambient noise didn’t bother me like a door slam, knocking on a door in hallway when someone arrives or the sound of water in the pipes was ok. The sound of everyone footfall, creak and bump drove me insane. The building had wood joist with thin concrete floors. It didn’t work and I had to get out of there for my own sanity. I moved into a house and the first night an acorn fell on the roof and I instantly tensed up thinking NOT AGAIN. That’s how tense I became from loosing sleep at night. I eventually relaxed and it doesn’t bother me now knowing it is a random noise from nature and only occurs on occasion. I plan on moving eventually and I will get a single floor unit with no upstairs units just the sky above or a condo on a top floor built from concrete. I lived in one before and no noise could penetrate from footfalls.
If that were me, I would have put some spikes on the living room first
Sounds good until you hear that a man breaking into a home fell through cutting himself on a kitchen knife and successfully sued the homeowner.
Load More Replies...Na na boo boo LMMFAO GOODY!! making all that damn noise and done got put on yo ass!!!! Upstairs wit the BS!! And the greedy sorry landlord hope u get yo license took and get hit a fine that yo great great great grandkids gonna be payin for!! Dummies
I’d sue landlord and neighbours for emotional distress, we have pretty good neighbours but a lot of times one side sounds like they are dropping weights from 11:00 to 11:45 ish idk y or what maybe it’s their headboard banging it’s two guys otherwise we are lucky, I have a loud fan , I’d be so mad at thss as t guy and glad he fell threw , should have pulled a Jim Carey and pointed at him and laughed at him on ground
Sorry to say but the upstairs neighbor should train his brain instead of his muscles. He should have seen by the cracks in his own floor and realized what was going to happen if he continued his exercises. He was stupid in the first place for doing this at home at all. I really really don't feel sorry for him getting injured. I actually chuckled when I read he fell through the floor and ceiling and got injured, and I normally am not the type of person to wish anyone harm but this guy seriously had it coming. I'm less surprised by the landlord's ignorance, landlords are often like that sadly enough... But the offer is generous though. I would take it. You gain more than with suing probably by taking the deal.
50% of neighbors fault for dropping weights and 50% of landlords fault for not having reinforced floors and not listening when they complained about it. also, he said it was soundproofed yet they even heard them walking with shoes on.
Owning a house is a pain in the backside, but stories like this make me thankful I don't rent.
I get irritated even when people drop weights at the gym. If you can't put it down in a controlled movement - it's too heavy for you. Blah! And it's LOUD so I get why you would complain over that. Other noises in an apartment I would say you have to deal with (people walking at any hour, people having loud sex, children running around playing etc) - that's life and even though sometimes irritating that's normal. I would take the deal and not press charges against the landlord. Seems he is stepping up and making changes and that's the important part.
As a former apartment tenant, knowing full well the challenges of enduring extraneous noises, I had developed a different, more peaceful mindset
I can't imagine the upstairs neighbor wining a lawsuit. He's obviously a dipshit.
I would take the refund. Year of free living sounds awesome in today's living expenses.
This is a follow up to my recent post. I forgot to add why I never survive with this neighbor. I live in the middle of the Pinelands, of Southern New Jersey. It’s a million square miles of Native Pine. It’s a Nationally protected forest, some species and flora and fauna are only found here and nowhere else. Still with me? Sorry. Point is, it is so freaking QUIET here, at night, no noise whatsoever..except animals or a plane. I worked and on the weekends if I didn’t want, I wouldn’t see a soul. During the lockdown!!!!, omgosh, it was eerily quiet. Soooo, to make a short story even longer, I would have lost my mind. Good day.
First I’d like to send my condolences. I could never make it in this situation, without possibly murdering someone. I would definitely take the landlords deal, rent free for a year, and a discount! You could find a lot of things to do with that. To the gentleman who said that the floor is not designed to hold the weight of a man and MAYBE, maybe 300 lbs. Think before you speak, and don’t be ******!! And did someone (him)? say “ floor joists are only rated at a ton” !!!! Sooooo, this guy was lifting more than a ton of weight every day??!! Alrighty then. Best regards to you and your roommate, JB
This story is BULLLLLSHITTTTT never heard so much crap in my life before
Because you're an expert on how apartments are built? Or you're at building inspector? Or maybe you're a millionaire living in a home all by yourself with concrete floors.... You have no sense of reality. And every gym that I have ever been into you are not, I repeat not allowed to bang the weights. First time is a warning, second time you don't get to use them for several weeks, third time you are expelled from the gym and never get to come back. And gyms don't have wooden floors where people actually live. We don't even know how old the apartment building is. And obviously it was compromised to begin with. You've never heard of a building being compromised before?
Load More Replies...I would have stomped and kicked him a few times before calling the cops. "Officer, he sustained all those injuries from the fall"
Of course the landlord is to blame mainly here, but when the cracks start appearing, and instead of trying again to contact landlord and/or neighbour, OP goes like "I was told not to complain, so i won't tell anyone about the cracks because i'm still sulky" it's not a very good look on OP either. But i guess risking the upstair neighbours life was worth it for now having a funny story to tell to the internet...
In our area landlords have a right to inspect even with a 24 hour notice. The only way they can enter withour notice is if there is an emergency.
Load More Replies...They needed to move their stuff so it wouldn't break....I don't understand why you're upset
Load More Replies...That upstairs neighbour has almost certainly been kicked out of several gyms for disobeying the rule about dropping weights. That's why he was working out at home.
This. The neighbour was repeatedly hitting the floor with the equivalent of a heavy sledgehammer. No floor resists that. Gyms which permit dropping weights use something to protect the floor like a special platform, heavy duty mats or have bumper plates. Dropping your weights anywhere else in the gym will get you banned. AKA destroying the floor will get you banned. The weight by itself shouldn't be the issue. Lets say it was 100 kg = a slightly fat dude. Or he was doing deadlifts ≈ a fat dude.
Load More Replies...Consult with your lawyer-brother obviously but if it is a fair deal and you aren’t likely to get more, take it! Suing is time consuming and expensive and it won’t make you rich. You got your I told you so and I’m sure your landlord is going to suffer enough.
Of course he’s being nice now. He probably spoke to his own lawyer who said it would ruin the reputation of him and his buildings- not to mention the damages you could be awarded. He’s kissing your behind on purpose. Beware.
I think the landlord will sell that building off in a few years, and if the contract doesn't transfer, then they won't have cheaper rent anymore.
Load More Replies...Honestly, this sounds like the landlord's settlement is more than fair, but also sounds like the upstairs neighbor should be sued because they should never have had that kind of equipment on an upper floor without permission (due to the need for specific reinforcement). I think OP should take the settlement, but make sure it's treated as a legal settlement and not just a handshake and a promise. Then see if they can go after the neighbor for endangerment. Otherwise, dealing with the neighbor is the landlord's problem.
I would take the deal he's offering. Sometimes people can be very sue-happy, looking for any chance to get rich and destroy the other person for life. Obviously there was clear neglect, but it doesn't sound like the landlord is being cheap now. He made a big mistake and now wants to fix it and survive like anyone else. If the poster wasn't injured, there's enough to replace anything that was damaged, housing is provided for at the hotel and then good apartment later, and great deal on future rent, that's really all you need.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes, that is, if you're the neighbor and landlord.
This gives a whole new meaning to "Breaking and entering".
That was handled very well on OP's end. They had documentation instead of sending 100% of the complaints in voice. Always email this stuff, it can help in cases like this. This jazz should have been inspected and updated accordingly to the current laws. Any lacking of features mentioned and lead to some charges/lawsuits.
I've seen apartment buildings and houses built & finished in a few months - I always wonder how structurally sound they really are. And in some parts of the U.S., with high humidity, high moisture levels (heavy rain, hurricanes), and termites, older buildings can be very unsafe. The OP & roommate were very lucky!
Yeesh! Most landlords won't even allow waterbeds on any upper floors. Only allowed on ground level, built on slab housing. Due to the weight. Anyone with a brain knows that weight lifting equipment needs to be ground-level, basement or garage.
That is not a weight issue. Do you realize the damage you would cause if a water bed sprung a leak? That is why they aren't allowed.
Load More Replies...I had some shitty landlords in my time who tried to screw me out of money. Sucks that the first one didn't know I worked at a law school and worked for the lawyer who wrote the Chicago Tenant's Rights book in the early 90s. Imagine his horror when he got a letter from that lawyer letting him know he was violating my rights and I could press charges. Second landlord tried to screw me out of money and a good friend's family lawyer's passion was going after shitty landlords, so he took care of that one for me too. After that, I sent a copy of the Maine Tenant's Rights book (or whatever it was called) to every tenant of his with a letter explaining what he did to me. Same landlord removed all the light fixtures from an apartment when the people gave 60 days notice. He also left a pizza box on a gas stove while attending a party he crashed in one apartment. It caught fire and he tried to charge the tenants. Dude was demented. I hope he's not still a landlord.
When I was living in the last apartment before we bought our home, our upstairs neighbor used to do deadlifts in the apartment and didn't have the decency to just place the bar and weights on the floor, and instead he'd drop them. It used to knock pictures and paintings off the walls, items off shelves, and so on.
I guess the lesson is to put a clause in the lease that you can't use weights over so many pounds, but what kind of schmuck thinks that's ok in the first place? Those people got stuck between a wannabe Rock and a hard headed landlord. They should do what they think is best, but that landlord needs outed to the public. Goodness knows what else he has overlooked in other locations.
Weights are fine if you aren't dropping them. There's a reason pretty much every gym in existence has a rule about not doing that. This meathead has almost certainly been kicked out of several gyms for not following that rule.
Load More Replies...Befoe becoming homeowners, we lived in apartments, in various states. One experience with loud, upstairs neighbors taught us valuable lessons: : Always rent an upstairs apartment (with no apartment above) and always behave like a neighbor you'd want next door to you.
Maybe the landlord should have been told when the cracks 1st appeared. This seems like an extreme way to make a point.
Agreed, leaving someone who had a language barrier and a case of being a jack@$$ in the hospital not with "gruesome injuries " is hardly justified. OP is not the hero they think they are.
Load More Replies...Sometimes living in an apartment building suck. I went through the same situation but in the reverse I lived upstairs in the ruthless noisy neighbors live downstairs a 2 bedroom apartment with 10 people music all seven days a week I had to move out to get any type of solace. Two day after I moved out the condo owner put it for sale he’s furious with the building management.
I am a landlord. I had an obnoxious neighbour with 4 dogs that never got out. This went on for 4 years. One day I downloaded a decibel app. Even from outside, the noise hit 109 dB. I was all set to sue, when she had the common sense to die.
At least the landlord was really generous in trying to avoid the lawsuit. I've been living in a nightmare sandwich between my upstairs and downstairs neighbors and my landlord is only now, after 2 years of problems, evicting the upstairs neighbors. I would do anything for soundproofing. The neighbors upstairs fought to the point the next door neighbors signed a petition to have the landlord fined, nevermind the amount of times we, in the building, called the cops and told the landlord. Cops just came and told them to stop then left. Never did anything. But the landlord finally evicted them because he lost 2 other tenents to the insanity and I told him I was going to leave, too. So they finally moved out last weekend. But still dealing with the downstairs neighbors who just blast their music every day at all hours. I want to move so bad but I can't afford it right now. It's so crazy expensive to live in my area.
Just food for thought, the landlords might have been stuck too in recent 2 years. There has been a moratorium on evictions etc, and landlords had to prove at a very high bar, that eviction was necessary. I know those moratorium were there for a reason and so many families kept a roof over their heads because of it. Just as many took advantage of the situation and were helll to their landlords and neighbors, with not much to be done about it.
Load More Replies...Sorry but this is one time I say go to court. You were very lucky you and/or your roommate weren't walking through and had this fall on you. The upstairs neighbor is definitely 50% of the cause but there is no way that floor should have given way like it did. It wasn't meant to handle weights being dropped on it but had there been a big,heavy aquarium it likely would have come down as well. When you have multiple stories the floors and ceilings must be even sturdier than what is normal for a single story and this is obviously not the case. If I were in the inspectors office all of his rentals would be heavily scrutinized. The fact that he was also mean and nasty to you when you warned him was pretty crappy but to try to say you should have tried harder to warn him is BS and the only reason he is feeling so generous now is because his attorney's have advised him that he is screwed and it's going to cost him a boatload of money if you sue. Otherwise you would still be living the same way
Thing is, aquariums need special reinforced joists too. Anything over a 75 gallon tank does really. Most landlords won't allow them on anything but the main floor either. I would never put one in the second story of my house without having someone inspect and reinforce it.
Load More Replies...The person who says that making noise early and late "is a bit rude" um, no, it's actually against the law. Most places have noise ordinances so you can't make loud noises during certain hours of the day.
The city of Springfield OR just tells you it's a civil matter and won't respind.
Load More Replies...Gym I used to go to only had heavy weights on the ground floor for a reason. Also when you bench press, if you drop the weight, it lands on YOU (unless you're doing it with dumbells instead of a barbell for some reason). Was probably doing something else.
Many people bench with dumbells btw. It provides more work for different muscles. When I used to, I would alternate between the two for that reason. It was probably causes though when removing or switching the weights on the barbell.
Load More Replies...Eh no. I would have pressed charges. Both the landlord and the neighbor should have been sued for every penny they have. That kind of idiot only learns when it hurts their wallet.
Again, as a landlord, it's extremely unwise to ignore tenant complaints. It's true that some people will whine about anything. And heaven help you if there's a mouse and a female tenant. But most of the time they are too shy to say anything. Second point. You can have your membership canceled at my gym for dropping weights. Besides. You don't get the full range if motion workout.
Agree with everything except why do you have to put a comment in about God help you if you get a female tenant and mouse! Really necessary? There are plenty of men afraid of mice and bugs. I live with one and I welcome a cute furry creature to live with us. Does that blow your mind?
Load More Replies...I feel 4 these renters. I live in a duplex & the past 16 yrs we had many complaints. The other sides garage is our adjoining wall, the first renters had 40 bags of garbage in their garage which lead to mice in the walls/ceiling. Another renter worked on their cars in their garage clang, bang etc at all hours. This is a no dog, no smoking duplex & we can't use our backyard due 2 dog constantly barklng, can't use patio due 2 cig & pot smoke, we can't have the back door open for fresh air. Another renter had fits & threw bottles against the adjoining wall, anothers children would throw tools in our yard, if we missed seeing them would damage the blade of our mower. The worst is when their mother had sex on our shared patio. The property mgr said maybe this isn't the right place 4 you. WTH. So I stopped complaining & did not report that they removed roof vents = leaks. Also found this place has high levels or meth residue! No clean up & no place 2 move 2.
I lived in an apartment I owned on second floor. Told I couldn’t here neighbors. Wrong. While the ambient noise didn’t bother me like a door slam, knocking on a door in hallway when someone arrives or the sound of water in the pipes was ok. The sound of everyone footfall, creak and bump drove me insane. The building had wood joist with thin concrete floors. It didn’t work and I had to get out of there for my own sanity. I moved into a house and the first night an acorn fell on the roof and I instantly tensed up thinking NOT AGAIN. That’s how tense I became from loosing sleep at night. I eventually relaxed and it doesn’t bother me now knowing it is a random noise from nature and only occurs on occasion. I plan on moving eventually and I will get a single floor unit with no upstairs units just the sky above or a condo on a top floor built from concrete. I lived in one before and no noise could penetrate from footfalls.
If that were me, I would have put some spikes on the living room first
Sounds good until you hear that a man breaking into a home fell through cutting himself on a kitchen knife and successfully sued the homeowner.
Load More Replies...Na na boo boo LMMFAO GOODY!! making all that damn noise and done got put on yo ass!!!! Upstairs wit the BS!! And the greedy sorry landlord hope u get yo license took and get hit a fine that yo great great great grandkids gonna be payin for!! Dummies
I’d sue landlord and neighbours for emotional distress, we have pretty good neighbours but a lot of times one side sounds like they are dropping weights from 11:00 to 11:45 ish idk y or what maybe it’s their headboard banging it’s two guys otherwise we are lucky, I have a loud fan , I’d be so mad at thss as t guy and glad he fell threw , should have pulled a Jim Carey and pointed at him and laughed at him on ground
Sorry to say but the upstairs neighbor should train his brain instead of his muscles. He should have seen by the cracks in his own floor and realized what was going to happen if he continued his exercises. He was stupid in the first place for doing this at home at all. I really really don't feel sorry for him getting injured. I actually chuckled when I read he fell through the floor and ceiling and got injured, and I normally am not the type of person to wish anyone harm but this guy seriously had it coming. I'm less surprised by the landlord's ignorance, landlords are often like that sadly enough... But the offer is generous though. I would take it. You gain more than with suing probably by taking the deal.
50% of neighbors fault for dropping weights and 50% of landlords fault for not having reinforced floors and not listening when they complained about it. also, he said it was soundproofed yet they even heard them walking with shoes on.
Owning a house is a pain in the backside, but stories like this make me thankful I don't rent.
I get irritated even when people drop weights at the gym. If you can't put it down in a controlled movement - it's too heavy for you. Blah! And it's LOUD so I get why you would complain over that. Other noises in an apartment I would say you have to deal with (people walking at any hour, people having loud sex, children running around playing etc) - that's life and even though sometimes irritating that's normal. I would take the deal and not press charges against the landlord. Seems he is stepping up and making changes and that's the important part.
As a former apartment tenant, knowing full well the challenges of enduring extraneous noises, I had developed a different, more peaceful mindset
I can't imagine the upstairs neighbor wining a lawsuit. He's obviously a dipshit.
I would take the refund. Year of free living sounds awesome in today's living expenses.
This is a follow up to my recent post. I forgot to add why I never survive with this neighbor. I live in the middle of the Pinelands, of Southern New Jersey. It’s a million square miles of Native Pine. It’s a Nationally protected forest, some species and flora and fauna are only found here and nowhere else. Still with me? Sorry. Point is, it is so freaking QUIET here, at night, no noise whatsoever..except animals or a plane. I worked and on the weekends if I didn’t want, I wouldn’t see a soul. During the lockdown!!!!, omgosh, it was eerily quiet. Soooo, to make a short story even longer, I would have lost my mind. Good day.
First I’d like to send my condolences. I could never make it in this situation, without possibly murdering someone. I would definitely take the landlords deal, rent free for a year, and a discount! You could find a lot of things to do with that. To the gentleman who said that the floor is not designed to hold the weight of a man and MAYBE, maybe 300 lbs. Think before you speak, and don’t be ******!! And did someone (him)? say “ floor joists are only rated at a ton” !!!! Sooooo, this guy was lifting more than a ton of weight every day??!! Alrighty then. Best regards to you and your roommate, JB
This story is BULLLLLSHITTTTT never heard so much crap in my life before
Because you're an expert on how apartments are built? Or you're at building inspector? Or maybe you're a millionaire living in a home all by yourself with concrete floors.... You have no sense of reality. And every gym that I have ever been into you are not, I repeat not allowed to bang the weights. First time is a warning, second time you don't get to use them for several weeks, third time you are expelled from the gym and never get to come back. And gyms don't have wooden floors where people actually live. We don't even know how old the apartment building is. And obviously it was compromised to begin with. You've never heard of a building being compromised before?
Load More Replies...I would have stomped and kicked him a few times before calling the cops. "Officer, he sustained all those injuries from the fall"
Of course the landlord is to blame mainly here, but when the cracks start appearing, and instead of trying again to contact landlord and/or neighbour, OP goes like "I was told not to complain, so i won't tell anyone about the cracks because i'm still sulky" it's not a very good look on OP either. But i guess risking the upstair neighbours life was worth it for now having a funny story to tell to the internet...
In our area landlords have a right to inspect even with a 24 hour notice. The only way they can enter withour notice is if there is an emergency.
Load More Replies...They needed to move their stuff so it wouldn't break....I don't understand why you're upset
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