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Neighbor Can’t Stand Kids Playing Outside At 6:45 AM, Asks If They Should Contact The Council
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Neighbor Can’t Stand Kids Playing Outside At 6:45 AM, Asks If They Should Contact The Council

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We expect our homes to be peaceful oases where we unwind from the outside world and enjoy daily living. That is until the outside world seeps into our dwellings through loud neighbors. But let’s be real, noisy people living close by are part of city living. Whether they blast music all hours of the night or allow their kids to scream and shout like there’s no tomorrow, some shared walls and fences meet very different lifestyles.

Speaking of the latter scenario, at what point does the sound of children playing outside in the fresh air become reasonable grounds for a complaint? Well, according to a recent Facebook post, it’s when parents let their little ones out between 6.45 AM and 8 AM every single morning.

After these parents let their toddlers play outside at first light, this person reached out online to ask their community for perspective. They shared how annoyed they feel to be woken up by playing kids in the early morning hours, to the point where it’s “getting silly now”. Suddenly, their question sparked a heated debate where people jumped to share their opinions, and it’s a mixed bag. Continue scrolling to read the post in full, as well as the reactions that followed. Then be sure to decide for yourself where you stand on the matter and weigh in on the discussion in the comments!

Recently, a neighbor shared a post criticizing parents who let their kids play outside at 6.45 AM

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This complaint sparked a heated debate in the community, as people immediately expressed mixed reactions

Image credits: Spotted: Quedgeley, Kingsway, Hardwicke

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Image credits: Karolina Grabowska (not the actual photo)

The post has stirred up a vocal debate in the small suburban towns of Quedgeley, Kingsway, and Hardwicke in the UK. The question of whether children should be let out to play at this early hour sparked anger and fury among some people. They explained that kids should be encouraged to spend time outside, and it’s definitely better for them to be outdoors than stuck inside. A few residents reacted with deep sarcasm to the threats made to call the local council about the “nuisance” and noise from children playing in their own garden.

Others, however, expressed support for the neighbor, with some commenters stating that everyone needs to show consideration to the people living around them. It’s nice to believe neighbors will respect our lifestyle, but the reality is that people living near us can swiftly make our lives more pleasant or difficult. While living in harmony and avoiding hostilities is the goal, tensions and disputes between neighbors are inevitable.

It’s no secret that kids make noise. The little ones may be the greatest joys to their parents, but they sometimes cause disruption to other individuals’ daily lives. Everyone wants to feel comfortable in their homes and get a good night of rest, so it’s easy to understand that loud noise from the outside can be irritating. If you can relate to this situation, coming up with a solution can be challenging as nobody wants to be labeled a complainer. Yet, residents have the right to feel annoyed at certain behaviors that strike their nerves.

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Moreover, according to the World Health Organization, excessive noise also harms human health and interferes with daily activities at school, at work, at home, and during leisure time. It can disturb sleep, cause cardiovascular and metabolic effects, provoke annoyance, and generally take a toll on both physical and emotional well-being.

Some people aired their frustrations and outrage towards the post, here’s what they had to say

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Regardless of the type of noise, it’s crucial to delicately communicate the issue with your neighbors and reach an agreement. As Elaine Swann, a lifestyle and etiquette expert and the founder of the Swann School of Protocol, told Martha Stewart, it’s best to talk about your noise complaint in person. She suggested approaching the neighbor, letting them know about the noise, and keeping the conversation brief and to the point. When you want to confront someone about something, “leave out the icky and keep it matter of fact.”

Then it’s important to bring a solution to the problem. It may be as simple as asking to manage the noise level during that time. “If the person is practicing music, say, ‘Hey, it’s great that you’re talented, and great that you’re learning, but if you ever aren’t quite sure about the noise factor, here’s my contact information. Call me anytime and I’ll let you know,'” Swann added. “This way, the person will feel as though they are connected with you. They’ll know where you live and how to reach you.”

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Most notably, you should keep a level head and try to put yourself in your neighbor’s shoes. “When approaching the person, think about how you might feel — this is what really helps us to craft our statement to them,” Swann explained. “When we think from that perspective, then we won’t go to anger. Our goal is to dwell together in peace.”

When we feel overwhelmed with emotions and harshly approach our neighbors, publicly humiliate them, or even make threats about their behaviors without sorting out the situation ourselves first, it can lead to long-lasting arguments. It’s important to be respectful of your neighbors so everyone can live peacefully, and the more we can resolve conflicts on our own, the better.

And others agreed with the noise kids make and shared support in the comments

 

 

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DuchessDegu
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"Sound of children playing is a joy to hear at anytime". That's about the worst noise for me, it's probably the high pitch (and I have a family of resident magpies which doesn't bother me at all). Everyone has different trigger noises.

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Impetus
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This whole child worship thing some people have going isn't good for them. Nobody, not even a child, is "a joy to hear at any time" and we shouldn't be teaching children that. When they become adults and suddenly aren't the center of the universe anymore that transition is going to hurt.

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Lisa T
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Nope, anything before 9am shits me. Kids, people mowing, using power tools etc.

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Rita Rose
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes! My former landlord once tried to cut the hedges outside my bedroom window at 7am with a hedge trimmer! I stepped outside half naked and told her to F-OFF

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Edwin Titus
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If he's not a close neighbor the kids doing a lot of noise?.Even the way she responded sounded quiet selfish.I think we live in a me me generation so a lot of people tend to not have some consideration. I was always taught to keep it low as much as possible before 9am when I was young.Still till these days it never failed me. Surely the kids can play in the house and also be entertained a little bit before going outside.

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Dex
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

*Edit to be clear*: Since I could not be certain on the OP, I focused on the noise issue at hand and I would agree with you. Kids can play all they want, but there are tons of options to keep them entertained inside, even physical activities, until a better time to go outside. To me it has nothing to do with kids playing and everything to do with the noise. If the kids wake me up after 8am in my neighborhood, it's just another thing I deal with.

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Kaisa
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I bet people would act very differently if it was adults making noise instead of kids. It is great that kids are outside but it is the parents job to make sure they know how to play quietly without disturbing neighbours.

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Jonny S
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Keep them indoors until a more acceptable time. Some people have no respect for others. Who wants to hear kids at that time of day. Or any time of day for that matter.

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Kat Patterson
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This!!! People need to control their kids more, or they'll turn out to be snot nosed brats

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Victoria
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Parents... if you live nearby one, take the kids to a playground! Why should everyone else suffer because a parent can't well.... parent. I work from home and have had to deal with loud and disrespectful kids all freaking summer. I feel OP's pain .... EDIT: When I said the kids are disrespectful they are literally disrespectful to ME. Insulting me, throwing garbage in my yard sorta thing

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Erica Acuto
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Nope, they bought a house with a backyard for their kids to play in. Deal with it!

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Lara Verne
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I kinda understand, I wouldn't be happy to wake up early every day because kids are screeching at top of their lungs. Neighbor at least should tell their kids to keep noise to the minimum. Pretty sure this is problem here.

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Elea Bell
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think part of the reason it's so hard to sleep when there are children running around screaming is that humans usually are more sensitive to the sounds of screaming than to other noises. I suspect it to be related to survival. I know that I can have a fan running and white noise playing through earbuds, and still find myself jerking alert to the sound of sirens from several blocks away. Different people have different sensitivity, and it's important to consider that. That being said, I understand that it can be really hard to quiet some children down when they're excited. Most of the young children I've been around (and I've lived with nephews/nieces in the same house) could be calmed down, but we had a few screamers. Didn't matter if you talked to them, as soon as you turned them loose, they'd find something else to lose their minds about. The trick we used on those was to give them sticky rice pudding or frozen fruit, something that would keep their mouths too occupied to scream.

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K80.127
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wow! I love this! It's respectful of those around you and shows that you care- mostly about the kids. If they are having an emotional issue, you have found a way to help them through it. That's just awesome. (I am not saying you're teaching them emotional eating... But that you are teaching them to find a way to calm themselves!)

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Kristal
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Nope. Not sure in other countries but in the U.S. every city has regulations of when construction can happen due to noise. If there are loud sounds happening before that time, report it. I used to work night shifts and definitely wore earplugs sleeping but anyone that has remotely been around children know that those earplugs don't block out everything, particularly the high pitched screetching/screaming (happy or sad)

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Jen
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes but every city Ive lived in the noise ordinance lifts at 5 am - the start of the morning rush hour. The city is out with the jackhammers by then fixing who knows what for so long (mostly annoying because they "repave" at the end of every day and the road is a bumpy shock-destroying mess). 7 am is perfectly reasonable time for kids to be out - our schools are open by then!

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Debbie
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't work shifts but I would be annoyed at loud/disruptive noise before 08:00. Be it a lawnmower, howling dog, radio, kids. If they play quietly, sure go ahead. But no loud noises.

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Charity Grace
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So I have 5 under 5yr old and we do not got outside before 8am. Its still cool enough. We dont even have neighbors. But we have breakfast and clean the house first. And since they have to knock on the door, are the parents not outside with them?

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Winna Libert
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes, that's very concerning in and of itself. Toddlers should never be left unassisted outside at any time.

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David Brown
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I live in a decent sized gated community. I'd say at the very least 45% of the people that live here have kids. And most of them are between toddler and preteen. There isn't a single family that makes their kids mind. Before the rooster has a chance to do his thing there are kids already outside yelling and squealing at the top of their lungs. IT'S RIDICULOUS!! When I was brought up I was made to mind my manners. No yelling or excessive noise. Being polite and minding my manners with adults. You know, the stuff kids use to be taught before the "do as you feel" crowd took over. Situations like this shouldn't even be a thing. Be polite to your neighbors. Don't be an a*****e when it comes to noise. Offer help every now and then even if you know they won't accept. Because at some point every body needs help in some way. You don't want to be the one thats been a douchebag having to hang your head and ask for help from the neighbors you've treated poorly.

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Daycare Attendant Sun
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Even when I was a child in the 90s, I was always taught to not go hooting and hollering through the neighborhood--it didn't matter what time of day it was--it was seen as disrespectful to my neighbors.

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K Ann
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Once again another example of people saying the person is TA cause it's a kid and a family trying to deal with them. NO. Have some consideration. Just cause you have a kid doesn't mean you can do whatever you want to help you and them out. We all have the right to some peace at bloody 6.45!!!!

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K80.127
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I agree. Being a parent isn't a "get out of jail free card". I will say, the "child hate" from the child-free group is getting out of hand though.

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Valisbourne Spiritforge
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Kids playing is one thing. I'd probably never notice it. But, when I worked afternoon shift, the neighbors allowing their kids (young teens) to run 4 wheelers through their yard, with no mufflers (or it sounded as such) starting at 6 am on Saturday morning was annoying AF.

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My O My
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Round here there are noise regulations between 10pm and 7 am. Between 7am and 10pm let them kids out. Yes, teach them not to screach around. But let them be kids

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Lotta Nerve
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Exactly. It's a noise ordinance. It is the law, they can make an acceptable amount of noise.

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Leslie Tincher
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Idc if children are being children. The problem for me is when they are constantly screaming. It just goes on and on and on and on. The first few times I'm wondering if something is wrong. Hearing a yelp or laughter is normal, but when they literally scream non stop....if OP is experiencing something similar, I totally understand the frustration.

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Taylor ßudd
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That's cool. I'll just make it so your kids won't want to go outside. Then you'll have to deal with them inside. Pricks. I'll just come out and start screaming and swearing and smashing s**t. Just have a general drunken drug fuelled rampage. Every morning. I'll make sure my alarms set for 6 and take a fat line of speed to be ready for hell. Or you know maybe I'll just get really into house music and hardstyle. Just ruin your life. Make you sell your house.

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K80.127
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Hahahah! My solution was to make sure to keep the little turds up late at night- or wake them AFTER they have gone to bed... Chainsaw at 9 p.m.? Why not!?!

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PENNY
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Open your door scream shut the hell up and go back to bed

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Egregious Filmin
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Our city has an ordinance that says "no excessive noise before 8am weekdays or 9am on weekends" and the police will tell the people to quiet down then fine/arrest them with further offenses. Who TF leaves two toddlers outside alone and is so oblivious they don't hear anyone knocking on the door? This person sounds like they don't care about anyone, even their own kids. I wear earplugs just to tolerate the screaming of my own two toddlers, I would never leave them outside alone/screaming, especially early asf in the morning and expect the whole neighborhood to be cool with it 😅 please tell me this is made-up

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Bo Lee
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So if kids can play at 6:45 am because someone else decides to have children and realize its a much harder job than thought. Then there is someone who doesn't have children but wants to mow the lawn at 6:45 am because it's much hotter after that and they have other things going on and its so hard living the life that I choose so you must understand. So can I mow my lawn and saw down my tree every morning before 6:45 am because you know the heat and things?

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K80.127
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have two kids and I am right there with you! If I had to wake up to kids outside (obviously being ridiculously loud by "mother's" post) I would LOSE MY MIND! but, I am vindictive and would do everything I can to wake those kids up at 4 a.m. for a few days and then try to keep them up til 9 or 10 for the following few days, just really make the parents lives hell.

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Dex
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Just keep your kids entertained indoors until 8am rolls around (the standard for basically the whole province I live in). It's common sense and typically you always see this forced if people don't comply due to bylaws or HOA rules be it a city, town, or municipality. Has nothing to do with the kids playing, everything to do with the nosie they can make. Some kids are quiet, some are loud and piercing with their screams and yells. I can't tell with OP but I'm focused on just the noise issue. There are to many activities for inside, physical or not, same for heatwaves etc. Just plan for it or have backups ready. Not hard considering how many options there are, cheap or free, that can be repeated/reused. It's not about the kids playing, it's the noise only. Maybe even find quieter activities for them outside. I deal with the noise from kids at 8am and after and there are nothing but families around me, they don't make noise before 8 and the few times I have heard the kids... I hear the mom or dad yelling shortly after to either come in or be quiet.

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Jessica Haag
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Where I live it is already over 80 degrees with humidity almost as high by 8am. Probably why the kids are outside early

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Sunny Day
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Who's watching the toddlers while they are playing in the yard? Sounds like Mom sends them outside so she can do other things.

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Amy Taylor
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I work in film production so there's a lot of splits and night shoots involved. I live smack in the middle of suburbia so I'm all about the ear plugs when I need to sleep.

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Hubert Martin
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It says a lot the mom is the type of person who sees the older lady on her Ring doorbell, doesn't speak to her at all, but as soon as it's online she's the first to comment about it. I hate how that reads. How about this? Older lady knocks on door. Mom ignores her. Older lady posts online. Mom is very brave behind a screen. And the thing is, I can almost envision the personality of this mother. A steaming pile of rationalizations.

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Phil Parker
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have 4 boys and you'd better believe they're not being let out at 6 am.....and what a horrid person *I saw you came to politely talk to me in person but I ignored you and came to find your Facebook post instead!"......so strange.

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Bo Lee
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If kids can play at 6:45 am then don't complain when I cut my grass at 6am

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Kimberly Marino
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm concerned that there are children described as toddlers playing unsupervised outside so early and the parents do not answer the door. These parents will be sobbing on TV when someone takes those children. I don't care how safe you think your neighborhood is I can almost guarantee you a sex offender either lives close by or drives by daily. Sadly we no longer live in a world that allows this type of thing anymore.

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Ana 2002r
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I've got autism, which means that I'm prone to sensory overload and I need to wear earplugs while sleeping/when I'm out. If not, I will have a breakdown or feel extremely tired afterwards, have palpitations or get really bad anxiety. And I may even get infections out of the blue. My neigbor's kids jump and run at 1 am. On a daily basis. I live in a flat so I can hear the noise and it's beyond annoying. I still feel guilty because I shouldn't complain and I've got autism and should suck it up (this way of thinking is toxic but that's what people told me while growing up). But it can really ruin my day and cause lots of suffering. Other people say they can hear it too and say that it's annoying. So I've got my earplugs, I use headphones and still can hear it. I gotta suck it up and next day wake up with lots of anxiety. When I was little, I remember my parents telling me off for doing something that disturbed other people. Like playing with marbles and throwing them, in our apartment. Now we want to pamper kids so much they'll end up spoiled and rude in the future. We'll have 18-year-olds with zero consideration and empathy. An acquaintance of mine is an elementary school teacher and she says that some parents can be really stuck-up and justify their kids' behavior... Like thinking their kid wouldn't kill a fly (when they may've hit another kid) or that they're a child prodigy or something and that they're far more intelligent than other kids, who are dumb. Well. I'm rambling on. If you complain and it's reasonable, you're not a bad person. You're basically helping a kid be considerate when they're adults. If a kid is jumping in the elevator, should we look the other way? Well, that's what the parents did. Now the elevator is broken. Some parents really chicken out when they have to parent their children.

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Jen
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Unless the kid is over 500 lbs, jumping in an elevator cant break it. They are made to withstand so much more. The fact that it is broken is a mere coincidence. All that jumping does is give the kid a slight sensation of weightlessness for a split second.

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Nizumi
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I wouldn't like it either. But the simple truth is: construction is allowed to start at 07h00 (at least, it does in my city), so kids can be allowed outside to paly at 07h00.

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Divided We Fall
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Children playing is definitely not disrespect. I went to bed late and was still up before the sun. It has nothing to do with bedtime or parents. Parents do play a role in that, but if you don't wanna hear kids playing move to the country or move to the getto. If you hear kids playing, you should be happy! Far too many consider video games as a viral organ. If they're playing outside, you probably have great neighbors

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Eliza May
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They DON'T need to SCREAM when they play. The two activities are not part and parcel, they can be mutually exclusive.

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Heather Umpherville
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Rude ignorant people who let their kids out to play that early, I would never let mine out until 8 at the earliest. If I were you from 5 to 9 pm go sit on your patio have a glass of wine socialize with your friends play some music. I can gaurentee the kids are into bed between 5 and 7 pm. If they are are too rude to answer the door to come to a compromise then enjoy yourselves completely In the evening with no restrictions

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Mandie Hanson
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A lot of apartments and residences have 'quite hours' which fall between the hours of 10PM and 8AM for this very reason. It is called common courtesy. As for everyone claiming that 'Oh, but they are kids!' congratulations. You pushed out some kids. That doesn't give you the freedom to use the 'but kids' for every rude thing you/they do. You have probably learned how to tune out the shrill screaming, squealing, crying, screaming contests because you live with them. The rest of the world does not. Learning how to respect others starts at a young age. As for the heat, it will still be cool at 8-10. If that doesn't work for you, take them to a park.

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Jen
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

By 8 am it is unbearably hot here in the summer, but noise ordinances end at 5 am

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M Young
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I like how parents don't answer the door. The neighbor could be alerting them to an injured child, but not the parent's concern, I guess.

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Laura Isabel
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have a 7yr old son and raised two, now older kids [19+26]... and we live in a housing project.This would never fly in my neighborhood. Kids have a right to play and be kids but as an adult I respect that not everyone is on the same schedule I'm on. I'm SAHM for now and I have never and would never let none of my kids outside alone at that time, regardless or how nice the neighborhood is. And we live in a very safe area too but I trust no one and who does that? At 6:45am? I guess maybe I'm lucky that my unit is pretty much all SM's and we communicate and work together. Lol the earliest I see kids in my area playing or riding bikes is after lunch... We all got too much sh&$t to do before noon lol.... Nope! Even when I'm inside with my Son, after 6:30-ish all loud banging and heavy playing is done. We live in apartments and respect each other's lives and spaces.

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El Dee
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I get this, I'd be annoyed if kids were making a racket before 7am too. But the whole 'nowadays' shtick is equally annoying. People are more mindful of their kids than ever before, they raise their kids to be MORE polite and we see far less of kids playing outside than we used to. In short things are MUCH better than they used to be..

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Danyelka
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I understand that any noice after the night shift is horrible. But I have a question. What was the weather in your country this summer? Message to all who write about well behaved children: if there was so hot than here, I would let children to be outside the house in the early morning and than around or even after the sunset. Rest of the day they would be inside to prevent overheating or to be burned even with strong sunscreen.

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Magpie
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Children can go out early but they need to be taught to be relatively quiet. These kids sound like they are very loud if a neighbor several houses away can hear them. There is absolutely no reason for kids to scream anyway. Kids can have fun without that ear-piercing screech many of them do. This mom is rude and entitled. Even in the middle of the day mine don't scream/screech. We have neighbors, some of whom have babies or work nights, so we aren't jerks.

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Dathan Long
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The parents need to have courtesy, would you mow your lawn at 6:45 am...no and if you do you're and a-hole. 8 am is as early as I'm willing to make noise outside, my neighbor is very hard working older lady that gets home at 2 so I make sure I try to stay quite so she can get some sleep.

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Gigi Merrill
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

645 am. Neighbor starts mowing the lawn with a gas mower. Contractors start pounding hammers. Dogs barking. Different point of view?

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hhh cubed
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is for the people commenting that kids naturally wake up at 5am. Huh?! As a mother of 2 and also a member of a very large family I can assure you that neither I, any of my siblings or my children got up at 5am. Maybe 7am but never 5am.

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Winna Libert
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's when parents make them go to bed at some crazy early unreasonable time. My mom forced me to be in bed by 8..even as an older child. I can't tell you how miserable it was laying there w the sun shining and expected to go to sleep. As long as my kids/grandkids were/are in bed by 10 on school nights it's all good. Wknds we're even a bit more lenient.

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M333NUH Hu
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This seems neglectful, I feel like they let their kids play out at that time so they can continue to sleep. Also forget the council report to social services, anyone could take these kids lots of predators around.

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Lotta Nerve
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

How old are you, like 10? This woman is probably lying or exaggerating. She sounds like a Karen. and you sound like her dumb daughter.

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Hubert Martin
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Birds sing at 4 am. Humans having a home is little reason for worldly silence. I was leaning with the older lady a bit, but honestly, you can just soundproof the house. Much easier than attempting to soundproof the world. What if a kid is just loud? Do you punish them? Hit them? Impress upon them how being themselves is not impressing anyone? I think many of the commentators can attest to reversing these 'lessons' of the past and learning how to be yourself again. Not just a good boy or girl. Food for thought.

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Richie penhallurick
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You need to get your kids some of those noisy megaphones with or without music so they can run around laughing anc screaming into them. As my father would say 6am is way too late for them to wake up. He always ensured my brothers were awake by 5am 🤷‍♂️ and he bought these very loud toys my brothers would bang against the floor every morning right at 5am to make sure me and my sister weren't sleeping in

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Joseph Matthews
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If I work late shift should my neighbors children not be allowed to play outside in the afternoon to accommodate my sleep schedule? If not why not? Everyone has different schedules. As a parent though if you were a good neighbor and not a nuisance and you asked me have my kids keep it down I'd try to accommodate by reminding them to stay quiet at certain hours for you. Why aren't they answering? Do you complain about a lot of things? It's not a perfect solution but couple me trying to keep them quiet with you trying ear plugs or a white noise sleep app should do the trick. Calling 'the council' because children are outside playing during the day does sound like hyperbolic ridiculous nonsense though.

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Lotta Nerve
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Awesome .... and this person works NIGHTS, up all dang night. That woman is a straight up Karen. She needs to get a life.

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Ray Arani
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Most places like this have quiet hours. Usually between 7am and 10pm. What if the OP worked a different shift, one that required them to sleep at 3pm? Would they require the whole neighborhood to silence themselves in the afternoon? As long as it's not during the council determined quiet hours, the parents aren't in the wrong. Has OP tried earplugs? My neighbors dogs get let out at 3am every morning and bark for about 30 minutes straight. Right outside my bedroom window. I stuck some foam over the window, got some wax earplugs, and it's fine. Sounds like OP isn't even a direct neighbor. If they could call the council and get their desired result they'd have done it, considering they don't seem to have an issue with publicly complaining or direct confrontation (no judgement). My best guess is the council told them they had no ground to stand on already. Could the family try to be considerate and ask their kids to play quiet games until a certain time? Sure, but they don't have to.

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Matthew F
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

6:45a is way too early to be outside making noise. It's completely disrespectful to the neighbors. It's showing these kids you can do whatever you want whenever you want with little care about others. More than likely, this town has a noise ordinance, where I live certainly does. Every once in a while isn't a big deal at all. This person tried to do the neighborly thing and simply talk to the parents. That didn't work, so I say absolutely take it to the proper authority. I bet those parents would complain if you played loud music at 9:45p and woke those kids up, it's the same thing.

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Jen
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OP would have mentioned if they were breaking a noise ordinance. Since they arent they have the right to be as loud as they want on thier own property. Its OPs responsibility if he wants to sleep in later than the normal human world (aka after 6 am).

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Markus It/He
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The way kids scream at literally anything (happy/sad/angry/excited) feels like nails on a chalkboard and I would feel similarly resentful. But there isn't anything this person can do about it since they can't get a meeting with the parents. Also so many people are mentioning "after 7am" and ? Do they not know how time works? 6:45am is not after 7am ? Edit: my parents have had 3 kids and they also think these parents are taking the p**s and the neighbour is not wrong to be annoyed

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Anita
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think it's all about having respect for each other. 9 am is a good compromise. If it's that hot let the annoyed neighbor buy the kids a sprinkler. The kids will be cool and they won't think their neighbor doesn't like them. That's what I'd do myself

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Jen
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

9 am is WWY too late. 5 am is when noise ordinances end and the city starts construction, any time after that is fair game.

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Gail Lynn
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

LOL Another awesome reason for growing up in the country with NO NEIGHBORS!!! I love growing up on my family's ranch. Could make as much noise as I wanted. After morning chores & breakfast I usually would go bike riding or saddle up my horse. Or I might practice my music. I am soooo ready for country life again!! People are too fussy for me!!!

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Kelli Moody
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I've got a solution. Be really loud at night, when those littles and their parents are sleeping early. Set off fireworks. it's not an inconvenience for them until they see what it's like. I understand kids playing, but I've lived near some screamers at 6:30 am, I get it.

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Kristi Thibaut
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Its called respect. How would you like it your neighbor played their music loudly and woke up your twins? How about a compromise... just go outside early every other day

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Tito Goon Goon Smith
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'd teach my kids to egg this karen's house.... jk. It could be so much worse and they really should stop complaining. I hope the first commenter is really the person who's kids are playing in the morning. Gods forbid children have fun in the morning. If you can't stand noise move to the country and yell at the birds for chirping when the sun comes up. Some people are just miserable and need everyone else to be as well.

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Kathy Davis
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have worked nights most of my life. I sleep until 11am. Sometimes know kids play outside. Sometimes some runs their leaf blower or lawn mower. Sometimes dogs bark or an exhaust is loud. Sometimes the sun is bright. I honestly don't expect the world to stop because I am sleeping. I have to pull the blinds and leave the TV on white noise. No biggie.

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Erica Acuto
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That's usually after most towns noise ordinances start for the night. You'd be in violation. Most end at 7:00 am. The kids are perfectly fine being outside after that.

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Loreitta M Tuthill
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Well, the parents are being inconsiderate. Before 0800 is too early to turn them loose. They need to watch their own kids inside their own house. They turn them loose so they don't have to listen to them inside. If after 0800 works for the neighbors then that is when the happy noises should start. Leave a note inviting them to coffee. Take a picture of the note on the door. If no response in a few days then go to the manager, explain your concerns and request a mediated meeting with them.

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Jen
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If they have their own yard then there is no manager and people dont need thier neighbors approval to live thier lives in thier private property (including thier yard). If they were breaking noise ordinances OP would have said so, since they arent they have the right to make as much noise as they want.

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Meh
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I allowed my work children to play outside before the school run (it was after 8am) a neighbour started yelling out their window at them. My husband said I was being rude but it was a week day, after 8am and they weren't being noisy. The neighbours were nasty people who were very rude to my own children and attempted to be rude to me ( it didn't go well for them ) they only stopped when they realised I had a husband (I'm a woman), funny really as he's the calm one lol

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Brobro McDuderson
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There’s some serious “get off my lawn” vibe going on here lol. I guess both sides have a point *shrug*

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JL
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Where I live quiet hours end at 7am, and I doubt these kids are pumping out the lawnmower/chainsaw decibel levels that would be prohibited in quiet hours anyway.

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Bex
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No, the high pitched shrieking is far worse. I doubt the neighbors are grousing about a few giggles and chatting. Children should play outside after 7 *if they can keep it down* until 9 or so.

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Hope Tirendi
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I like the one comment about parents putting their kids to bed too early so they can drink! I knew women who put their kids to bed at 6:30pm! Then complain that they got up between 5 & 5:30 am!!!! Well DUH!!! Just so you get tons of "Me" time??? Don't have kids then but you don't let them outside to make noise at 6 something in the morning! Kids don't need 13 to 14 hours sleep just so you get down time.

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Pavlina G
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wow, so many children must be seen but never heard. It’s a minor inconvenience. Live with neighbors, there is always drama.

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Phryne
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There are two toddlers outside, apparently alone, and OP can't get the parents to answer the door...why is this being ignored? I'd call the council, cops, CFS, and everyone else. I don't have a problem with kids playing outside, but two toddlers alone?

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Winna Libert
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Man I'm glad I live in an area I can let my kids out at 7am and not have to worry too much. By 9-10 you have the issue of heat and sun exposure. Of course if one lives near to others they should teach thier children to use respectful levels of noise and there shouldn't be an issue. I agree w someone who stated below that outside is for the loud playing..but only between 9am-9pm.

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Someone Important
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

6.45am? Yeah, I'd have a big issue with that too. People have jobs and need to sleep. Keep your little monsters inside until at least 9 or 10 am. You can't mow your lawn that early or do construction work, nobody wants your kids waking them up that early. I'd call the cops too. I don't even get off work until midnight.

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Winna Libert
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

9-10 and it's already extremely hot and or there's the issue of the middle of the day is the most dangerous regarding sun exposure. No one should have to accommodate your odd work hours. That being said, parents should teach their children to be respectful of their neighbors and watch their noise levels before 9am.

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Seonag Udell
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If anyone is wondering this post is from Gloucester in England.

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Joshua Shamblin
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Playing children at 7am. Cops would warn them once and then right a ticket for a noise complaint. Unless they're African American... Then the cops would shoot them cause they're black... And just as you're thinking that wouldn't happen. It just did in Columbus Ohio. Cops shot an unarmed African American in his bed at 2am

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Jen
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No cause there are no noise ordinances that late (ours ends at 5am when rush hour starts). They will say so sad too bad to the complainer. OP would have mentioned if there was a noise ordinance they were breaking.

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Rens
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I live in a building which is sheltered accommodation for elderly and disabled people. I am a night owl and I only really feel that my best in the evenings. I am retired so I don't get up before 11 a.m. unless I have to; I also stay up late sometimes until 2am. I do get irritated when all the old dears hang out by the bench outside my bedroom window putting the world to rights at 6:30 in the morning. They go to bed early and wake up early; I really wish they wouldn't hang out outside my window, but what can I do... At least they're better than the drunk guy yelling out the window about how great his c**k is....

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Ambry Petersen
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would say OP I'd obviously not a parent. Kids make noise it's just a fact of life. You can't contain them in a box. They will only learn compassion if shown compassion. Two it's thier garden, if the kids were in OP's garden I could see the issue, but you cannot expect another homeowner to roll over and make you the center of thier universe. I'm pretty tired of the "I'm going to complain about something petty so you'd better make sure your life revolves around me a complete stranger" Attitude. As a parent I have far more important things to worry about. Or as my Grandmother once said, "You can't please everybody so there is no use trying". No matter what you do someone is going to complain about something. You must live your life with what's important to you, not some random stranger from down the street. Expecting random neighbors to revolve thier lives around you and your pet peeves is petty, arrogant, and entitled. Be glad they don't start nitpicking your habits.

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Heidi
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Many cities have these things called noise ordinances, hard concept to understand, I know. There are rules you agree to follow by living within city limits, your garden or not. Having children doesn't entitle you to thrust their screeching on sleeping neighbors before 7am, get a grip.

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Ka Se
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes, keep the children inside. Best until they are grown up. I don't know what it's like in other areas, but in my little part of the world the builders start working noisily at 7am. I wouldn't care about the 15 minutes of children's noise beforehand. Especially if I have something like doors, windows and so on that can be used for sound insulation.

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Magpie
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Depends on the kid noise. We're in a neighborhood full of kids so during school breaks there are kids outside as soon as the sun comes up. For the most part it's normal kid noise, but most of them are clearly trying to be quieter when it's really early, but one family had 3 feral little monsters who would scream at the top of their lungs and regularly literally fistfight in the street. Their lovely mom ignored it; when it did bother her she'd open the door, scream "shut the f♡ck up!" and slam the door. Thankfully their landlord told them to leave. It's not the noise, it's the type/pitch of the noise.

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iblewsheep
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The town i live in has a "quiet time" between 10 pm and 7 am. SO i suppose if this were in my neighborhood, this COULD possibly be a noise ordinance violation for those first 15 minutes??? though that's more for loud machinery and stuff like that so i doubt any citations would be given. YES kids can be VERY loud when they are having a good time, but what? Are you telling me these kids are screaming right outside of an open window? c'mon Karen!

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Magpie
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"Karen" isn't a direct neighbor, per the mom's comment. That means that these kids are incredibly loud if they can be heard several doors away. There is also no reason for kids to be screaming, especially early in the morning.

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jdtimid123
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The commenters saying "they are kids playing in their yard" are probably not picturing the screaming and arguing that a lot of kids also do when they are outside. OP should start mowing their lawn at 4am and say "but I was up and it's my yard. Get some earplugs if you don't like it." (Only problem would be disturbing the other neighbors.)

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Collette Moisan
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Where are the parents at that time, if these are toddlers? Probably inside asleep, because they didn't want the kids waking them up.

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Janet C
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

More entitled parents. How would they feel if the neighbor decided to use a leaf blower at 6 am, or 11 pm? They call it rude and thoughtless. They'd demand respect. But it's just fine when they let their screaming toddlers out at the crack of dawn. Respecting others includes not making excessive noise too early in the morning or too late at night. Simple as that. Just because you had unprotected sex doesn't give you extra privileges and rights.

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Elaine Brown
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am confused. The city says my dogs can’t bark before 8am but it is okay for kids to scream?

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Jean Weber
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would be concerned if the toddlers are outside, unattended. If that's the case, they could hurt themselves. I agree, talk to the parents, but approach from a place of caring about the welfare of their children, and they will be more receptive to any requests.

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Pcurley
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't have a problem with kids playing during the day time hours. I do have a problem with inconsiderate neighbors. I have a neighbor across my street who have kids out at 3am, yelling, screaming, crying. Dogs barking. I had to file a restraining order but they were not served. Police are there monthly. I stopped calling the police as it continues. I don't even open my curtains. I feel like a prisoner in my own home. It is frustrating! Gone are the days of considerate neighbors.

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Jean Weber
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm sorry your neighbors are like that. Those poor children, are either abused or neglected

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Lee
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As soon as it is 7am so you can lawfully make noise, play offensive music from a little speaker near the fence. Don't have it so loud as to be obnoxious to other neighbours, but should be easy for it to be loud enough for the kids to hear. Fk Sht Stack by Reggie Watts is a good one to play on repeat, but there are plenty of excellent options.

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tori Ohno
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What is the quiet time, legally, in your area? It's usually 10 pm to 7 or 8 am in most areas. You're out of luck if they're obeying the law. And who cares about what hours you work, other people don't have to conform to your rules and lifestyle. Only start trouble with the council if laws/rules are being broken, not because you're simply being cranky because you have to listen to children playing.

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Vera Abelsen
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think the crux of the matter here isn't the time and who or what is making the noise, but the frequency of it. We all can tell ourselves to be patient and tolerant occasionally. I personally start to get pretty annoyed and hot under the collar if my sleep gets interrupted consistently. Because sleep quality is important and directly affects your mood and well being. Recently there was a lot of late night construction sound because of road maintenance nearby my apartment block and I could smile the first night sigh impatiently the third night and was prepared to throw rotten tomatoes by the sixth night. (I didn't, but my imagination was pretty vivid in detail) And as mention somewhere else here: ordinance rules vary. Common courtesy would be to speak with your neighbors about very early or very late noise generating activities no matter the kind or reason for them.

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Sharon Lynn
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

6:45 am?!?! That’s a hard NOPE! Completely disrespectful of the neighbours to allow their children to be outside making noise at that hour!

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Laura Elizabeth
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Entitled parents are the worst. I will tolerate the kid noise during the day because kids need to play, but before 9 or after 8 I don’t want to hear a peep

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Squiddles
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't like chatter either but get some sleep headphones and blackout curtains. Having small children is f*****g hell and you can afford to ignore them.

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ImNotVerySocial
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If they were playing loudly at midnight i Don't think anyone would agree with the rude neighbors💀if you are loud before 8am or after midnight you are officially an AH(some exceptions of course)

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frog
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am trying to figure out how yall can hear someone's kids in their yard, but that's probably because where I live everybody has a bit of land between their homes. I'm just trying to figure out how she could hear them from inside her home???

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frog
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Either way tho, you would think the woman with children would try to stay on good terms with her neighbour, and just keep the kids inside in the morning.

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Miranda Daugherty
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I live in an area that actually has laws against noise ordinances before 8am so this s**t wouldn't fly at all. Even as bratty as kids are around here, they get schooled if they cross a line.

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Latibule_dreams
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We used to live in an apartment where the design was really bas an caused things to echo from the ground and amplify into our unit. We would compare my roommates bedroom to an eardrum because it sounded like the noise was always right outside their window. The neighbors would let their twin todlers out onto the porch to roughhouse on the lowest floor. Which would be fine but they would screeech at 6am. They finally moved before we got any quiet.

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Lotta Nerve
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Letting children play in the morning? Guess what, sound ordinances in most cities allow this. There isn't anything that you can do about it. Get used to it and be quiet.

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Annie Steele
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have a neighbour whose son screams at his mates while playing on line games, from 0700 hrs to 2300 hrs, all day, he's 13 or 14 and the language is shocking but as he is at the front of the house, his parents can't hear him. His racket can be heard on the whole street, be glad when he is back in school.

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Hoshi Reed
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As much as the whole idea of "children are a joy" grates me I think the "back in my day" are worse. The climate wasn't bad, the temps weren't draining, we didn't know c**p about the ozone problem we were causing until the 80's, UV index was only invented in the 90's, etc. Children who wait until 9 or 10 am are more likely to get skin cancers in today's day and age unless they are consistently using and reapplying sun screen. If you want a child to get 2-3 hours of physical outdoor activity, get their vit D which sun screen reduces, improve mood/reduce depression, Improve sleep, AND be safe while doing so it is going to have to be outside the danger hours of 1000-1600. If you tell a child only after 9, they can safely get in only an hour. This in turns means less healthy children and this in turn becomes a drain on the future of the nation and a less effective work force.

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#iwriteitall
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We we're not allowed out before 9am not were we allowed to call or knock for friends before 9am we didn't even really have neighbors where I grew up but it was just common courtesy for the neighbors despite being far of and also the parents of friends also 9am was go time

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Darcy Marie
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I used to work nights and lived in an apartment complex and my bedroom was right above the main door so i always hear people coming in and out. And i thought i was an a*****e for asking people to please shut the door slowly and not let it slam, so much so when i went around asking them I brought them cookies and a box of hot chocolate to show i wasn't an a*s. I didn't ask them to not have their kids play in the courtyard. I didn't ask the guy with the loud motorcycle to not drive it. I didn't even ask the woman who started blasting music at 9am to be quiet. All i asked was for the door to not slam because it shook my wall. And i felt, and was told by others, that i was asking too much.

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Brittany Carter
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have children and I also work overnights and neighbors who are childless do NOT care about my need for sleep and quiet during the day as they're banging away doing projects and blasting their music all day. So sorry, I get it's early for you but that's my "evening" time and also the time the kids are up. You can't expect me to accommodate you when you don't accommodate me. Its sucks for everyone and we're all losing sleep.

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Kelley Baltierra
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The time IS a bit early but I'm pretty sure your council has better things to do...

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Erica Acuto
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My towns noise ordinance ends at 7:00am. Normal outside noise (which kids playing is) is fair game after that time. Get some ear plugs or a different job. It's your schedule that is abnormal, not theirs.

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JD Davis
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Children playing, GREAT! Love to hear them!!! 6:45-7:30a NOPE, not even the ones inside the house, while others sleep! 7:30-8:00a is pushing it, but it is not unbearable, nor is it too much to ask, even if the kids got up at 4:00a or not.

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Dan Gwinn
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The parents should respect their neighbors sleep pattern or expect retaliation. See how the toddlers deal with backyard action movie nights.

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R Kundrat
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's just rude and obnoxious to let your kids loud playtime wake neighbors up at 6:45am. Just because they want to go out at that time, doesn't mean you let them. Since the mother still wants to be inconsiderate, if I were the neighbors, I'd have a party or guest over for a big BBQ starting at 7pm on a weekday. Let's see how she manages to get her twins to sleep.

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Wendy Schkade
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Nothing wrong with children playing but nothing wrong teaching children to be respectful of others. More than enough time to play after 9:00am. Teaching children to be caring is a reflection of the parents. Reading the response by the neighbour saddened me. The problem is going to get worse as the years pass and the children grow.

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Angie Ruloph
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If most people have to wait til after 9 to do yard work they can keep their screaming a** kids inside. I personally don't have compassion because it's not anyone's fault that they decided to have kids except theirs. During the summer our obnoxious neighbors with their screaming kids finally moved to Texas, the whole damn neighborhood is beyond thankful to have them gone.

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Kat Patterson
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Anything before 9 should be illegal 😭 I can't imagine getting woken up at 7 on days off when I need to catch up on sleep. It's a respect thing, it isn't ignorant to make the kids play inside at least until 9. My neighborhood is full of people retiring and I couldn't IMAGINE waking them up with children playing before 9. Seems digusting

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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There are people arguing 6:45 am isn't quiet time? I beg to differ, literally every place that has noise ordinances they are absolutely in effect at that time of the morning... 6:45 AM is not the same as 6:45 PM.

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Harry Hwt
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ok some how people have missed the key words ok here we go "toddlers" "knocking on door" so toddlers are left outside unattended and unsupervised they are lucky they dont get kidnapped if that's the case also some places like my neighborhood has a silence law basically you can't disturb the neighborhood after 10pm or before 7am we live really close together thankfully not an HOA but still some people ignore it but as long as no one cares it's fine and I understand the op as a neighbors kids like hitting rocks with a baseball bat out across the road and it's a matter of time before his dad will be buying a lot of new glass at this rate

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Matt Mosher
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Nobody should making a bunch of noise before 8am. Its common courtesy. Can't believe how rude some of the original responses were. People are assholes.

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Charles Ersimoen
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Someone said "use earplugs" - you have to consider that earplugs often fall out. Imagine they do before kids go up, they start playing, start making noise. Then, you're awake, and probably unable to fall back asleep as I've noticed that this is the case for a lot of people - once they wake, they won't fall asleep. Or have to be trying for a long time because they have no other option. Not trying earplugs before complaining is inconsiderate too, in my opinion. If they don't work, that's ok.

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Bex
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is in Gloucester by me, Quedgley isn't a town it's just an area of Gloucester lol. Doubt the council would bother tbh

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Holvnn Olive Ntivuguruzwa
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A lot of things makes me hate living in the western and Europe, I never understand how playing kids at 6:45 makes a problem. It's not even 6:00.🙄🙄

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GMc
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't think it's the playing. It's the screeching and screaming. General playing is one thing but nails on a chalkboard screeching is another. But then again if quiet time is 10pm to 7am, OP is out of luck. Now that said I'd go to the parents and see if they could train the kids to not screech. If not no problem. I'll be playing my thrash metal till 10pm just to keep their kids (and them) awake.

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Sweetie Babylon
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

People, and I use the term loosely to describe these types, need to learn to reign their cum trophies in. Keep your loser spawn out of the way of real people who value their time and lives as actual adults not weighed down by the burden of their own mistakes. Just because you're fed up of hearing your squalling and screaming pieces of human detritus doesn't mean you should set them upon the rest of us. Your mistake. Your burden. Your problem.

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Amy Taylor
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wow... I won't down vote you because we have different opinions, but at one point you were a "cum trophy" and "weighed your parents with the burden of their own mistakes"

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Leo Domitrix
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

@Elea Bell said it well. We're programmed to respond to children crying out. It's that we just react to them ----- negatively or positively, we react. Also, kids are gonna be noisy, so... there are good earplugs out there!

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Upper Enchilada
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

9 am is already too hot to play outdoors. Sure, the parent should try to keep the noise down, but the guy should be a bit more compassionate.

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when i was 13 i finally was able to play with out frear of someone beating me or hurtn me, I would go out at 5 am and play, I wouldn't make loud sounds till 7 am, and now that I'm 36 i play games all night, i play loud noices from 7am till 9pm, cause that's the times I would let the b*ich call and get told, oh no they have to wait 15 mins before playing again, and then you can do nothing about it" I have never never heard of a 9am, sound warning

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Were the kids playing Metallica on violins? Starting their own fire circus? No? Then get a grip. Let's face it, there's going to be noise at 6:45 AM. Does OP not want birdsong? Cars driving? Garbage collection? Everyone should tiptoe around OP's neighborhood until 9 AM? "For God's sake, don't sneeze! You'll awaken The Beast!" What a miserable person.

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If I hit the mega millions... I'd be petty and buy a house right next to this person complaining about kids and blast nursery rhyme music instead.

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"The birds are up screaming at daybreak, can I get them to shut up?" Kids that age naturally get up around 5am, and they're twins, I think this is the best and wholesome thing to allow them access to the outside in their yard to use their space as is natural for children. Might as well lasso the sun to keep it dark later, or tape birds mouth shut. They aren't using electronic devices or playing a stereo, no leaf blowers or lawn mowers, all is good. I do suggest good ear plugs and a nice white noise device for yourself you big baby.

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Kristal
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OP never said if they were using electronic devices or not, they only said playing. It's easy for children to be loud without electronic devices ... ever let one loose with a pot and spatula? Instant LOUD drum. Don't name call people and don't assume parts of a story to justify your own point of view.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"Sound of children playing is a joy to hear at anytime". That's about the worst noise for me, it's probably the high pitch (and I have a family of resident magpies which doesn't bother me at all). Everyone has different trigger noises.

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Impetus
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This whole child worship thing some people have going isn't good for them. Nobody, not even a child, is "a joy to hear at any time" and we shouldn't be teaching children that. When they become adults and suddenly aren't the center of the universe anymore that transition is going to hurt.

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Lisa T
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Nope, anything before 9am shits me. Kids, people mowing, using power tools etc.

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Rita Rose
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes! My former landlord once tried to cut the hedges outside my bedroom window at 7am with a hedge trimmer! I stepped outside half naked and told her to F-OFF

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Edwin Titus
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If he's not a close neighbor the kids doing a lot of noise?.Even the way she responded sounded quiet selfish.I think we live in a me me generation so a lot of people tend to not have some consideration. I was always taught to keep it low as much as possible before 9am when I was young.Still till these days it never failed me. Surely the kids can play in the house and also be entertained a little bit before going outside.

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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

*Edit to be clear*: Since I could not be certain on the OP, I focused on the noise issue at hand and I would agree with you. Kids can play all they want, but there are tons of options to keep them entertained inside, even physical activities, until a better time to go outside. To me it has nothing to do with kids playing and everything to do with the noise. If the kids wake me up after 8am in my neighborhood, it's just another thing I deal with.

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Kaisa
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I bet people would act very differently if it was adults making noise instead of kids. It is great that kids are outside but it is the parents job to make sure they know how to play quietly without disturbing neighbours.

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Jonny S
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Keep them indoors until a more acceptable time. Some people have no respect for others. Who wants to hear kids at that time of day. Or any time of day for that matter.

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Kat Patterson
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This!!! People need to control their kids more, or they'll turn out to be snot nosed brats

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Victoria
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Parents... if you live nearby one, take the kids to a playground! Why should everyone else suffer because a parent can't well.... parent. I work from home and have had to deal with loud and disrespectful kids all freaking summer. I feel OP's pain .... EDIT: When I said the kids are disrespectful they are literally disrespectful to ME. Insulting me, throwing garbage in my yard sorta thing

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Erica Acuto
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Nope, they bought a house with a backyard for their kids to play in. Deal with it!

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Lara Verne
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I kinda understand, I wouldn't be happy to wake up early every day because kids are screeching at top of their lungs. Neighbor at least should tell their kids to keep noise to the minimum. Pretty sure this is problem here.

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Elea Bell
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think part of the reason it's so hard to sleep when there are children running around screaming is that humans usually are more sensitive to the sounds of screaming than to other noises. I suspect it to be related to survival. I know that I can have a fan running and white noise playing through earbuds, and still find myself jerking alert to the sound of sirens from several blocks away. Different people have different sensitivity, and it's important to consider that. That being said, I understand that it can be really hard to quiet some children down when they're excited. Most of the young children I've been around (and I've lived with nephews/nieces in the same house) could be calmed down, but we had a few screamers. Didn't matter if you talked to them, as soon as you turned them loose, they'd find something else to lose their minds about. The trick we used on those was to give them sticky rice pudding or frozen fruit, something that would keep their mouths too occupied to scream.

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K80.127
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wow! I love this! It's respectful of those around you and shows that you care- mostly about the kids. If they are having an emotional issue, you have found a way to help them through it. That's just awesome. (I am not saying you're teaching them emotional eating... But that you are teaching them to find a way to calm themselves!)

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Kristal
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Nope. Not sure in other countries but in the U.S. every city has regulations of when construction can happen due to noise. If there are loud sounds happening before that time, report it. I used to work night shifts and definitely wore earplugs sleeping but anyone that has remotely been around children know that those earplugs don't block out everything, particularly the high pitched screetching/screaming (happy or sad)

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Jen
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes but every city Ive lived in the noise ordinance lifts at 5 am - the start of the morning rush hour. The city is out with the jackhammers by then fixing who knows what for so long (mostly annoying because they "repave" at the end of every day and the road is a bumpy shock-destroying mess). 7 am is perfectly reasonable time for kids to be out - our schools are open by then!

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Debbie
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't work shifts but I would be annoyed at loud/disruptive noise before 08:00. Be it a lawnmower, howling dog, radio, kids. If they play quietly, sure go ahead. But no loud noises.

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Charity Grace
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So I have 5 under 5yr old and we do not got outside before 8am. Its still cool enough. We dont even have neighbors. But we have breakfast and clean the house first. And since they have to knock on the door, are the parents not outside with them?

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Winna Libert
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes, that's very concerning in and of itself. Toddlers should never be left unassisted outside at any time.

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David Brown
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I live in a decent sized gated community. I'd say at the very least 45% of the people that live here have kids. And most of them are between toddler and preteen. There isn't a single family that makes their kids mind. Before the rooster has a chance to do his thing there are kids already outside yelling and squealing at the top of their lungs. IT'S RIDICULOUS!! When I was brought up I was made to mind my manners. No yelling or excessive noise. Being polite and minding my manners with adults. You know, the stuff kids use to be taught before the "do as you feel" crowd took over. Situations like this shouldn't even be a thing. Be polite to your neighbors. Don't be an a*****e when it comes to noise. Offer help every now and then even if you know they won't accept. Because at some point every body needs help in some way. You don't want to be the one thats been a douchebag having to hang your head and ask for help from the neighbors you've treated poorly.

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Daycare Attendant Sun
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Even when I was a child in the 90s, I was always taught to not go hooting and hollering through the neighborhood--it didn't matter what time of day it was--it was seen as disrespectful to my neighbors.

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K Ann
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Once again another example of people saying the person is TA cause it's a kid and a family trying to deal with them. NO. Have some consideration. Just cause you have a kid doesn't mean you can do whatever you want to help you and them out. We all have the right to some peace at bloody 6.45!!!!

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K80.127
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I agree. Being a parent isn't a "get out of jail free card". I will say, the "child hate" from the child-free group is getting out of hand though.

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Valisbourne Spiritforge
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Kids playing is one thing. I'd probably never notice it. But, when I worked afternoon shift, the neighbors allowing their kids (young teens) to run 4 wheelers through their yard, with no mufflers (or it sounded as such) starting at 6 am on Saturday morning was annoying AF.

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My O My
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Round here there are noise regulations between 10pm and 7 am. Between 7am and 10pm let them kids out. Yes, teach them not to screach around. But let them be kids

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Lotta Nerve
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Exactly. It's a noise ordinance. It is the law, they can make an acceptable amount of noise.

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Leslie Tincher
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Idc if children are being children. The problem for me is when they are constantly screaming. It just goes on and on and on and on. The first few times I'm wondering if something is wrong. Hearing a yelp or laughter is normal, but when they literally scream non stop....if OP is experiencing something similar, I totally understand the frustration.

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Taylor ßudd
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That's cool. I'll just make it so your kids won't want to go outside. Then you'll have to deal with them inside. Pricks. I'll just come out and start screaming and swearing and smashing s**t. Just have a general drunken drug fuelled rampage. Every morning. I'll make sure my alarms set for 6 and take a fat line of speed to be ready for hell. Or you know maybe I'll just get really into house music and hardstyle. Just ruin your life. Make you sell your house.

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K80.127
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Hahahah! My solution was to make sure to keep the little turds up late at night- or wake them AFTER they have gone to bed... Chainsaw at 9 p.m.? Why not!?!

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PENNY
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Open your door scream shut the hell up and go back to bed

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Egregious Filmin
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Our city has an ordinance that says "no excessive noise before 8am weekdays or 9am on weekends" and the police will tell the people to quiet down then fine/arrest them with further offenses. Who TF leaves two toddlers outside alone and is so oblivious they don't hear anyone knocking on the door? This person sounds like they don't care about anyone, even their own kids. I wear earplugs just to tolerate the screaming of my own two toddlers, I would never leave them outside alone/screaming, especially early asf in the morning and expect the whole neighborhood to be cool with it 😅 please tell me this is made-up

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Bo Lee
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So if kids can play at 6:45 am because someone else decides to have children and realize its a much harder job than thought. Then there is someone who doesn't have children but wants to mow the lawn at 6:45 am because it's much hotter after that and they have other things going on and its so hard living the life that I choose so you must understand. So can I mow my lawn and saw down my tree every morning before 6:45 am because you know the heat and things?

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K80.127
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have two kids and I am right there with you! If I had to wake up to kids outside (obviously being ridiculously loud by "mother's" post) I would LOSE MY MIND! but, I am vindictive and would do everything I can to wake those kids up at 4 a.m. for a few days and then try to keep them up til 9 or 10 for the following few days, just really make the parents lives hell.

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Dex
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Just keep your kids entertained indoors until 8am rolls around (the standard for basically the whole province I live in). It's common sense and typically you always see this forced if people don't comply due to bylaws or HOA rules be it a city, town, or municipality. Has nothing to do with the kids playing, everything to do with the nosie they can make. Some kids are quiet, some are loud and piercing with their screams and yells. I can't tell with OP but I'm focused on just the noise issue. There are to many activities for inside, physical or not, same for heatwaves etc. Just plan for it or have backups ready. Not hard considering how many options there are, cheap or free, that can be repeated/reused. It's not about the kids playing, it's the noise only. Maybe even find quieter activities for them outside. I deal with the noise from kids at 8am and after and there are nothing but families around me, they don't make noise before 8 and the few times I have heard the kids... I hear the mom or dad yelling shortly after to either come in or be quiet.

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Jessica Haag
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Where I live it is already over 80 degrees with humidity almost as high by 8am. Probably why the kids are outside early

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Sunny Day
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Who's watching the toddlers while they are playing in the yard? Sounds like Mom sends them outside so she can do other things.

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Amy Taylor
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I work in film production so there's a lot of splits and night shoots involved. I live smack in the middle of suburbia so I'm all about the ear plugs when I need to sleep.

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Hubert Martin
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It says a lot the mom is the type of person who sees the older lady on her Ring doorbell, doesn't speak to her at all, but as soon as it's online she's the first to comment about it. I hate how that reads. How about this? Older lady knocks on door. Mom ignores her. Older lady posts online. Mom is very brave behind a screen. And the thing is, I can almost envision the personality of this mother. A steaming pile of rationalizations.

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Phil Parker
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have 4 boys and you'd better believe they're not being let out at 6 am.....and what a horrid person *I saw you came to politely talk to me in person but I ignored you and came to find your Facebook post instead!"......so strange.

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Bo Lee
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If kids can play at 6:45 am then don't complain when I cut my grass at 6am

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Kimberly Marino
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm concerned that there are children described as toddlers playing unsupervised outside so early and the parents do not answer the door. These parents will be sobbing on TV when someone takes those children. I don't care how safe you think your neighborhood is I can almost guarantee you a sex offender either lives close by or drives by daily. Sadly we no longer live in a world that allows this type of thing anymore.

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Ana 2002r
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I've got autism, which means that I'm prone to sensory overload and I need to wear earplugs while sleeping/when I'm out. If not, I will have a breakdown or feel extremely tired afterwards, have palpitations or get really bad anxiety. And I may even get infections out of the blue. My neigbor's kids jump and run at 1 am. On a daily basis. I live in a flat so I can hear the noise and it's beyond annoying. I still feel guilty because I shouldn't complain and I've got autism and should suck it up (this way of thinking is toxic but that's what people told me while growing up). But it can really ruin my day and cause lots of suffering. Other people say they can hear it too and say that it's annoying. So I've got my earplugs, I use headphones and still can hear it. I gotta suck it up and next day wake up with lots of anxiety. When I was little, I remember my parents telling me off for doing something that disturbed other people. Like playing with marbles and throwing them, in our apartment. Now we want to pamper kids so much they'll end up spoiled and rude in the future. We'll have 18-year-olds with zero consideration and empathy. An acquaintance of mine is an elementary school teacher and she says that some parents can be really stuck-up and justify their kids' behavior... Like thinking their kid wouldn't kill a fly (when they may've hit another kid) or that they're a child prodigy or something and that they're far more intelligent than other kids, who are dumb. Well. I'm rambling on. If you complain and it's reasonable, you're not a bad person. You're basically helping a kid be considerate when they're adults. If a kid is jumping in the elevator, should we look the other way? Well, that's what the parents did. Now the elevator is broken. Some parents really chicken out when they have to parent their children.

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Jen
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Unless the kid is over 500 lbs, jumping in an elevator cant break it. They are made to withstand so much more. The fact that it is broken is a mere coincidence. All that jumping does is give the kid a slight sensation of weightlessness for a split second.

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Nizumi
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I wouldn't like it either. But the simple truth is: construction is allowed to start at 07h00 (at least, it does in my city), so kids can be allowed outside to paly at 07h00.

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Divided We Fall
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Children playing is definitely not disrespect. I went to bed late and was still up before the sun. It has nothing to do with bedtime or parents. Parents do play a role in that, but if you don't wanna hear kids playing move to the country or move to the getto. If you hear kids playing, you should be happy! Far too many consider video games as a viral organ. If they're playing outside, you probably have great neighbors

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Eliza May
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They DON'T need to SCREAM when they play. The two activities are not part and parcel, they can be mutually exclusive.

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Heather Umpherville
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Rude ignorant people who let their kids out to play that early, I would never let mine out until 8 at the earliest. If I were you from 5 to 9 pm go sit on your patio have a glass of wine socialize with your friends play some music. I can gaurentee the kids are into bed between 5 and 7 pm. If they are are too rude to answer the door to come to a compromise then enjoy yourselves completely In the evening with no restrictions

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Mandie Hanson
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A lot of apartments and residences have 'quite hours' which fall between the hours of 10PM and 8AM for this very reason. It is called common courtesy. As for everyone claiming that 'Oh, but they are kids!' congratulations. You pushed out some kids. That doesn't give you the freedom to use the 'but kids' for every rude thing you/they do. You have probably learned how to tune out the shrill screaming, squealing, crying, screaming contests because you live with them. The rest of the world does not. Learning how to respect others starts at a young age. As for the heat, it will still be cool at 8-10. If that doesn't work for you, take them to a park.

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Jen
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

By 8 am it is unbearably hot here in the summer, but noise ordinances end at 5 am

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M Young
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I like how parents don't answer the door. The neighbor could be alerting them to an injured child, but not the parent's concern, I guess.

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Laura Isabel
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have a 7yr old son and raised two, now older kids [19+26]... and we live in a housing project.This would never fly in my neighborhood. Kids have a right to play and be kids but as an adult I respect that not everyone is on the same schedule I'm on. I'm SAHM for now and I have never and would never let none of my kids outside alone at that time, regardless or how nice the neighborhood is. And we live in a very safe area too but I trust no one and who does that? At 6:45am? I guess maybe I'm lucky that my unit is pretty much all SM's and we communicate and work together. Lol the earliest I see kids in my area playing or riding bikes is after lunch... We all got too much sh&$t to do before noon lol.... Nope! Even when I'm inside with my Son, after 6:30-ish all loud banging and heavy playing is done. We live in apartments and respect each other's lives and spaces.

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El Dee
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I get this, I'd be annoyed if kids were making a racket before 7am too. But the whole 'nowadays' shtick is equally annoying. People are more mindful of their kids than ever before, they raise their kids to be MORE polite and we see far less of kids playing outside than we used to. In short things are MUCH better than they used to be..

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Danyelka
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I understand that any noice after the night shift is horrible. But I have a question. What was the weather in your country this summer? Message to all who write about well behaved children: if there was so hot than here, I would let children to be outside the house in the early morning and than around or even after the sunset. Rest of the day they would be inside to prevent overheating or to be burned even with strong sunscreen.

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Magpie
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Children can go out early but they need to be taught to be relatively quiet. These kids sound like they are very loud if a neighbor several houses away can hear them. There is absolutely no reason for kids to scream anyway. Kids can have fun without that ear-piercing screech many of them do. This mom is rude and entitled. Even in the middle of the day mine don't scream/screech. We have neighbors, some of whom have babies or work nights, so we aren't jerks.

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Dathan Long
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The parents need to have courtesy, would you mow your lawn at 6:45 am...no and if you do you're and a-hole. 8 am is as early as I'm willing to make noise outside, my neighbor is very hard working older lady that gets home at 2 so I make sure I try to stay quite so she can get some sleep.

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Gigi Merrill
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

645 am. Neighbor starts mowing the lawn with a gas mower. Contractors start pounding hammers. Dogs barking. Different point of view?

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hhh cubed
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is for the people commenting that kids naturally wake up at 5am. Huh?! As a mother of 2 and also a member of a very large family I can assure you that neither I, any of my siblings or my children got up at 5am. Maybe 7am but never 5am.

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Winna Libert
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's when parents make them go to bed at some crazy early unreasonable time. My mom forced me to be in bed by 8..even as an older child. I can't tell you how miserable it was laying there w the sun shining and expected to go to sleep. As long as my kids/grandkids were/are in bed by 10 on school nights it's all good. Wknds we're even a bit more lenient.

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M333NUH Hu
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This seems neglectful, I feel like they let their kids play out at that time so they can continue to sleep. Also forget the council report to social services, anyone could take these kids lots of predators around.

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Lotta Nerve
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

How old are you, like 10? This woman is probably lying or exaggerating. She sounds like a Karen. and you sound like her dumb daughter.

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Hubert Martin
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Birds sing at 4 am. Humans having a home is little reason for worldly silence. I was leaning with the older lady a bit, but honestly, you can just soundproof the house. Much easier than attempting to soundproof the world. What if a kid is just loud? Do you punish them? Hit them? Impress upon them how being themselves is not impressing anyone? I think many of the commentators can attest to reversing these 'lessons' of the past and learning how to be yourself again. Not just a good boy or girl. Food for thought.

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Richie penhallurick
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You need to get your kids some of those noisy megaphones with or without music so they can run around laughing anc screaming into them. As my father would say 6am is way too late for them to wake up. He always ensured my brothers were awake by 5am 🤷‍♂️ and he bought these very loud toys my brothers would bang against the floor every morning right at 5am to make sure me and my sister weren't sleeping in

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Joseph Matthews
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If I work late shift should my neighbors children not be allowed to play outside in the afternoon to accommodate my sleep schedule? If not why not? Everyone has different schedules. As a parent though if you were a good neighbor and not a nuisance and you asked me have my kids keep it down I'd try to accommodate by reminding them to stay quiet at certain hours for you. Why aren't they answering? Do you complain about a lot of things? It's not a perfect solution but couple me trying to keep them quiet with you trying ear plugs or a white noise sleep app should do the trick. Calling 'the council' because children are outside playing during the day does sound like hyperbolic ridiculous nonsense though.

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Lotta Nerve
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Awesome .... and this person works NIGHTS, up all dang night. That woman is a straight up Karen. She needs to get a life.

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Ray Arani
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Most places like this have quiet hours. Usually between 7am and 10pm. What if the OP worked a different shift, one that required them to sleep at 3pm? Would they require the whole neighborhood to silence themselves in the afternoon? As long as it's not during the council determined quiet hours, the parents aren't in the wrong. Has OP tried earplugs? My neighbors dogs get let out at 3am every morning and bark for about 30 minutes straight. Right outside my bedroom window. I stuck some foam over the window, got some wax earplugs, and it's fine. Sounds like OP isn't even a direct neighbor. If they could call the council and get their desired result they'd have done it, considering they don't seem to have an issue with publicly complaining or direct confrontation (no judgement). My best guess is the council told them they had no ground to stand on already. Could the family try to be considerate and ask their kids to play quiet games until a certain time? Sure, but they don't have to.

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Matthew F
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

6:45a is way too early to be outside making noise. It's completely disrespectful to the neighbors. It's showing these kids you can do whatever you want whenever you want with little care about others. More than likely, this town has a noise ordinance, where I live certainly does. Every once in a while isn't a big deal at all. This person tried to do the neighborly thing and simply talk to the parents. That didn't work, so I say absolutely take it to the proper authority. I bet those parents would complain if you played loud music at 9:45p and woke those kids up, it's the same thing.

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Jen
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OP would have mentioned if they were breaking a noise ordinance. Since they arent they have the right to be as loud as they want on thier own property. Its OPs responsibility if he wants to sleep in later than the normal human world (aka after 6 am).

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Markus It/He
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The way kids scream at literally anything (happy/sad/angry/excited) feels like nails on a chalkboard and I would feel similarly resentful. But there isn't anything this person can do about it since they can't get a meeting with the parents. Also so many people are mentioning "after 7am" and ? Do they not know how time works? 6:45am is not after 7am ? Edit: my parents have had 3 kids and they also think these parents are taking the p**s and the neighbour is not wrong to be annoyed

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Anita
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think it's all about having respect for each other. 9 am is a good compromise. If it's that hot let the annoyed neighbor buy the kids a sprinkler. The kids will be cool and they won't think their neighbor doesn't like them. That's what I'd do myself

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Jen
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

9 am is WWY too late. 5 am is when noise ordinances end and the city starts construction, any time after that is fair game.

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Gail Lynn
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

LOL Another awesome reason for growing up in the country with NO NEIGHBORS!!! I love growing up on my family's ranch. Could make as much noise as I wanted. After morning chores & breakfast I usually would go bike riding or saddle up my horse. Or I might practice my music. I am soooo ready for country life again!! People are too fussy for me!!!

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Kelli Moody
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I've got a solution. Be really loud at night, when those littles and their parents are sleeping early. Set off fireworks. it's not an inconvenience for them until they see what it's like. I understand kids playing, but I've lived near some screamers at 6:30 am, I get it.

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Kristi Thibaut
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Its called respect. How would you like it your neighbor played their music loudly and woke up your twins? How about a compromise... just go outside early every other day

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Tito Goon Goon Smith
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'd teach my kids to egg this karen's house.... jk. It could be so much worse and they really should stop complaining. I hope the first commenter is really the person who's kids are playing in the morning. Gods forbid children have fun in the morning. If you can't stand noise move to the country and yell at the birds for chirping when the sun comes up. Some people are just miserable and need everyone else to be as well.

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Kathy Davis
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have worked nights most of my life. I sleep until 11am. Sometimes know kids play outside. Sometimes some runs their leaf blower or lawn mower. Sometimes dogs bark or an exhaust is loud. Sometimes the sun is bright. I honestly don't expect the world to stop because I am sleeping. I have to pull the blinds and leave the TV on white noise. No biggie.

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Erica Acuto
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That's usually after most towns noise ordinances start for the night. You'd be in violation. Most end at 7:00 am. The kids are perfectly fine being outside after that.

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Loreitta M Tuthill
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Well, the parents are being inconsiderate. Before 0800 is too early to turn them loose. They need to watch their own kids inside their own house. They turn them loose so they don't have to listen to them inside. If after 0800 works for the neighbors then that is when the happy noises should start. Leave a note inviting them to coffee. Take a picture of the note on the door. If no response in a few days then go to the manager, explain your concerns and request a mediated meeting with them.

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Jen
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If they have their own yard then there is no manager and people dont need thier neighbors approval to live thier lives in thier private property (including thier yard). If they were breaking noise ordinances OP would have said so, since they arent they have the right to make as much noise as they want.

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Meh
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I allowed my work children to play outside before the school run (it was after 8am) a neighbour started yelling out their window at them. My husband said I was being rude but it was a week day, after 8am and they weren't being noisy. The neighbours were nasty people who were very rude to my own children and attempted to be rude to me ( it didn't go well for them ) they only stopped when they realised I had a husband (I'm a woman), funny really as he's the calm one lol

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Brobro McDuderson
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There’s some serious “get off my lawn” vibe going on here lol. I guess both sides have a point *shrug*

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JL
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Where I live quiet hours end at 7am, and I doubt these kids are pumping out the lawnmower/chainsaw decibel levels that would be prohibited in quiet hours anyway.

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Bex
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No, the high pitched shrieking is far worse. I doubt the neighbors are grousing about a few giggles and chatting. Children should play outside after 7 *if they can keep it down* until 9 or so.

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Hope Tirendi
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I like the one comment about parents putting their kids to bed too early so they can drink! I knew women who put their kids to bed at 6:30pm! Then complain that they got up between 5 & 5:30 am!!!! Well DUH!!! Just so you get tons of "Me" time??? Don't have kids then but you don't let them outside to make noise at 6 something in the morning! Kids don't need 13 to 14 hours sleep just so you get down time.

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Pavlina G
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wow, so many children must be seen but never heard. It’s a minor inconvenience. Live with neighbors, there is always drama.

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Phryne
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There are two toddlers outside, apparently alone, and OP can't get the parents to answer the door...why is this being ignored? I'd call the council, cops, CFS, and everyone else. I don't have a problem with kids playing outside, but two toddlers alone?

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Winna Libert
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Man I'm glad I live in an area I can let my kids out at 7am and not have to worry too much. By 9-10 you have the issue of heat and sun exposure. Of course if one lives near to others they should teach thier children to use respectful levels of noise and there shouldn't be an issue. I agree w someone who stated below that outside is for the loud playing..but only between 9am-9pm.

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Someone Important
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

6.45am? Yeah, I'd have a big issue with that too. People have jobs and need to sleep. Keep your little monsters inside until at least 9 or 10 am. You can't mow your lawn that early or do construction work, nobody wants your kids waking them up that early. I'd call the cops too. I don't even get off work until midnight.

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Winna Libert
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

9-10 and it's already extremely hot and or there's the issue of the middle of the day is the most dangerous regarding sun exposure. No one should have to accommodate your odd work hours. That being said, parents should teach their children to be respectful of their neighbors and watch their noise levels before 9am.

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Seonag Udell
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If anyone is wondering this post is from Gloucester in England.

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Joshua Shamblin
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Playing children at 7am. Cops would warn them once and then right a ticket for a noise complaint. Unless they're African American... Then the cops would shoot them cause they're black... And just as you're thinking that wouldn't happen. It just did in Columbus Ohio. Cops shot an unarmed African American in his bed at 2am

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Jen
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No cause there are no noise ordinances that late (ours ends at 5am when rush hour starts). They will say so sad too bad to the complainer. OP would have mentioned if there was a noise ordinance they were breaking.

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Rens
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I live in a building which is sheltered accommodation for elderly and disabled people. I am a night owl and I only really feel that my best in the evenings. I am retired so I don't get up before 11 a.m. unless I have to; I also stay up late sometimes until 2am. I do get irritated when all the old dears hang out by the bench outside my bedroom window putting the world to rights at 6:30 in the morning. They go to bed early and wake up early; I really wish they wouldn't hang out outside my window, but what can I do... At least they're better than the drunk guy yelling out the window about how great his c**k is....

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Ambry Petersen
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would say OP I'd obviously not a parent. Kids make noise it's just a fact of life. You can't contain them in a box. They will only learn compassion if shown compassion. Two it's thier garden, if the kids were in OP's garden I could see the issue, but you cannot expect another homeowner to roll over and make you the center of thier universe. I'm pretty tired of the "I'm going to complain about something petty so you'd better make sure your life revolves around me a complete stranger" Attitude. As a parent I have far more important things to worry about. Or as my Grandmother once said, "You can't please everybody so there is no use trying". No matter what you do someone is going to complain about something. You must live your life with what's important to you, not some random stranger from down the street. Expecting random neighbors to revolve thier lives around you and your pet peeves is petty, arrogant, and entitled. Be glad they don't start nitpicking your habits.

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Heidi
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Many cities have these things called noise ordinances, hard concept to understand, I know. There are rules you agree to follow by living within city limits, your garden or not. Having children doesn't entitle you to thrust their screeching on sleeping neighbors before 7am, get a grip.

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Ka Se
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes, keep the children inside. Best until they are grown up. I don't know what it's like in other areas, but in my little part of the world the builders start working noisily at 7am. I wouldn't care about the 15 minutes of children's noise beforehand. Especially if I have something like doors, windows and so on that can be used for sound insulation.

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Magpie
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Depends on the kid noise. We're in a neighborhood full of kids so during school breaks there are kids outside as soon as the sun comes up. For the most part it's normal kid noise, but most of them are clearly trying to be quieter when it's really early, but one family had 3 feral little monsters who would scream at the top of their lungs and regularly literally fistfight in the street. Their lovely mom ignored it; when it did bother her she'd open the door, scream "shut the f♡ck up!" and slam the door. Thankfully their landlord told them to leave. It's not the noise, it's the type/pitch of the noise.

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iblewsheep
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The town i live in has a "quiet time" between 10 pm and 7 am. SO i suppose if this were in my neighborhood, this COULD possibly be a noise ordinance violation for those first 15 minutes??? though that's more for loud machinery and stuff like that so i doubt any citations would be given. YES kids can be VERY loud when they are having a good time, but what? Are you telling me these kids are screaming right outside of an open window? c'mon Karen!

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Magpie
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"Karen" isn't a direct neighbor, per the mom's comment. That means that these kids are incredibly loud if they can be heard several doors away. There is also no reason for kids to be screaming, especially early in the morning.

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jdtimid123
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The commenters saying "they are kids playing in their yard" are probably not picturing the screaming and arguing that a lot of kids also do when they are outside. OP should start mowing their lawn at 4am and say "but I was up and it's my yard. Get some earplugs if you don't like it." (Only problem would be disturbing the other neighbors.)

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Collette Moisan
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Where are the parents at that time, if these are toddlers? Probably inside asleep, because they didn't want the kids waking them up.

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Janet C
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

More entitled parents. How would they feel if the neighbor decided to use a leaf blower at 6 am, or 11 pm? They call it rude and thoughtless. They'd demand respect. But it's just fine when they let their screaming toddlers out at the crack of dawn. Respecting others includes not making excessive noise too early in the morning or too late at night. Simple as that. Just because you had unprotected sex doesn't give you extra privileges and rights.

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Elaine Brown
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am confused. The city says my dogs can’t bark before 8am but it is okay for kids to scream?

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Jean Weber
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would be concerned if the toddlers are outside, unattended. If that's the case, they could hurt themselves. I agree, talk to the parents, but approach from a place of caring about the welfare of their children, and they will be more receptive to any requests.

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Pcurley
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't have a problem with kids playing during the day time hours. I do have a problem with inconsiderate neighbors. I have a neighbor across my street who have kids out at 3am, yelling, screaming, crying. Dogs barking. I had to file a restraining order but they were not served. Police are there monthly. I stopped calling the police as it continues. I don't even open my curtains. I feel like a prisoner in my own home. It is frustrating! Gone are the days of considerate neighbors.

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Jean Weber
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm sorry your neighbors are like that. Those poor children, are either abused or neglected

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Lee
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As soon as it is 7am so you can lawfully make noise, play offensive music from a little speaker near the fence. Don't have it so loud as to be obnoxious to other neighbours, but should be easy for it to be loud enough for the kids to hear. Fk Sht Stack by Reggie Watts is a good one to play on repeat, but there are plenty of excellent options.

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tori Ohno
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What is the quiet time, legally, in your area? It's usually 10 pm to 7 or 8 am in most areas. You're out of luck if they're obeying the law. And who cares about what hours you work, other people don't have to conform to your rules and lifestyle. Only start trouble with the council if laws/rules are being broken, not because you're simply being cranky because you have to listen to children playing.

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Vera Abelsen
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think the crux of the matter here isn't the time and who or what is making the noise, but the frequency of it. We all can tell ourselves to be patient and tolerant occasionally. I personally start to get pretty annoyed and hot under the collar if my sleep gets interrupted consistently. Because sleep quality is important and directly affects your mood and well being. Recently there was a lot of late night construction sound because of road maintenance nearby my apartment block and I could smile the first night sigh impatiently the third night and was prepared to throw rotten tomatoes by the sixth night. (I didn't, but my imagination was pretty vivid in detail) And as mention somewhere else here: ordinance rules vary. Common courtesy would be to speak with your neighbors about very early or very late noise generating activities no matter the kind or reason for them.

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Sharon Lynn
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

6:45 am?!?! That’s a hard NOPE! Completely disrespectful of the neighbours to allow their children to be outside making noise at that hour!

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Laura Elizabeth
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Entitled parents are the worst. I will tolerate the kid noise during the day because kids need to play, but before 9 or after 8 I don’t want to hear a peep

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Squiddles
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't like chatter either but get some sleep headphones and blackout curtains. Having small children is f*****g hell and you can afford to ignore them.

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ImNotVerySocial
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If they were playing loudly at midnight i Don't think anyone would agree with the rude neighbors💀if you are loud before 8am or after midnight you are officially an AH(some exceptions of course)

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frog
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am trying to figure out how yall can hear someone's kids in their yard, but that's probably because where I live everybody has a bit of land between their homes. I'm just trying to figure out how she could hear them from inside her home???

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frog
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Either way tho, you would think the woman with children would try to stay on good terms with her neighbour, and just keep the kids inside in the morning.

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Miranda Daugherty
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I live in an area that actually has laws against noise ordinances before 8am so this s**t wouldn't fly at all. Even as bratty as kids are around here, they get schooled if they cross a line.

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Latibule_dreams
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We used to live in an apartment where the design was really bas an caused things to echo from the ground and amplify into our unit. We would compare my roommates bedroom to an eardrum because it sounded like the noise was always right outside their window. The neighbors would let their twin todlers out onto the porch to roughhouse on the lowest floor. Which would be fine but they would screeech at 6am. They finally moved before we got any quiet.

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Lotta Nerve
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Letting children play in the morning? Guess what, sound ordinances in most cities allow this. There isn't anything that you can do about it. Get used to it and be quiet.

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Annie Steele
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have a neighbour whose son screams at his mates while playing on line games, from 0700 hrs to 2300 hrs, all day, he's 13 or 14 and the language is shocking but as he is at the front of the house, his parents can't hear him. His racket can be heard on the whole street, be glad when he is back in school.

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Hoshi Reed
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As much as the whole idea of "children are a joy" grates me I think the "back in my day" are worse. The climate wasn't bad, the temps weren't draining, we didn't know c**p about the ozone problem we were causing until the 80's, UV index was only invented in the 90's, etc. Children who wait until 9 or 10 am are more likely to get skin cancers in today's day and age unless they are consistently using and reapplying sun screen. If you want a child to get 2-3 hours of physical outdoor activity, get their vit D which sun screen reduces, improve mood/reduce depression, Improve sleep, AND be safe while doing so it is going to have to be outside the danger hours of 1000-1600. If you tell a child only after 9, they can safely get in only an hour. This in turns means less healthy children and this in turn becomes a drain on the future of the nation and a less effective work force.

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#iwriteitall
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We we're not allowed out before 9am not were we allowed to call or knock for friends before 9am we didn't even really have neighbors where I grew up but it was just common courtesy for the neighbors despite being far of and also the parents of friends also 9am was go time

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Darcy Marie
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I used to work nights and lived in an apartment complex and my bedroom was right above the main door so i always hear people coming in and out. And i thought i was an a*****e for asking people to please shut the door slowly and not let it slam, so much so when i went around asking them I brought them cookies and a box of hot chocolate to show i wasn't an a*s. I didn't ask them to not have their kids play in the courtyard. I didn't ask the guy with the loud motorcycle to not drive it. I didn't even ask the woman who started blasting music at 9am to be quiet. All i asked was for the door to not slam because it shook my wall. And i felt, and was told by others, that i was asking too much.

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Brittany Carter
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have children and I also work overnights and neighbors who are childless do NOT care about my need for sleep and quiet during the day as they're banging away doing projects and blasting their music all day. So sorry, I get it's early for you but that's my "evening" time and also the time the kids are up. You can't expect me to accommodate you when you don't accommodate me. Its sucks for everyone and we're all losing sleep.

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Kelley Baltierra
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The time IS a bit early but I'm pretty sure your council has better things to do...

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Erica Acuto
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My towns noise ordinance ends at 7:00am. Normal outside noise (which kids playing is) is fair game after that time. Get some ear plugs or a different job. It's your schedule that is abnormal, not theirs.

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JD Davis
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Children playing, GREAT! Love to hear them!!! 6:45-7:30a NOPE, not even the ones inside the house, while others sleep! 7:30-8:00a is pushing it, but it is not unbearable, nor is it too much to ask, even if the kids got up at 4:00a or not.

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Dan Gwinn
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The parents should respect their neighbors sleep pattern or expect retaliation. See how the toddlers deal with backyard action movie nights.

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R Kundrat
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's just rude and obnoxious to let your kids loud playtime wake neighbors up at 6:45am. Just because they want to go out at that time, doesn't mean you let them. Since the mother still wants to be inconsiderate, if I were the neighbors, I'd have a party or guest over for a big BBQ starting at 7pm on a weekday. Let's see how she manages to get her twins to sleep.

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Wendy Schkade
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Nothing wrong with children playing but nothing wrong teaching children to be respectful of others. More than enough time to play after 9:00am. Teaching children to be caring is a reflection of the parents. Reading the response by the neighbour saddened me. The problem is going to get worse as the years pass and the children grow.

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Angie Ruloph
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If most people have to wait til after 9 to do yard work they can keep their screaming a** kids inside. I personally don't have compassion because it's not anyone's fault that they decided to have kids except theirs. During the summer our obnoxious neighbors with their screaming kids finally moved to Texas, the whole damn neighborhood is beyond thankful to have them gone.

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Kat Patterson
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Anything before 9 should be illegal 😭 I can't imagine getting woken up at 7 on days off when I need to catch up on sleep. It's a respect thing, it isn't ignorant to make the kids play inside at least until 9. My neighborhood is full of people retiring and I couldn't IMAGINE waking them up with children playing before 9. Seems digusting

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Someone Important
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There are people arguing 6:45 am isn't quiet time? I beg to differ, literally every place that has noise ordinances they are absolutely in effect at that time of the morning... 6:45 AM is not the same as 6:45 PM.

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Harry Hwt
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ok some how people have missed the key words ok here we go "toddlers" "knocking on door" so toddlers are left outside unattended and unsupervised they are lucky they dont get kidnapped if that's the case also some places like my neighborhood has a silence law basically you can't disturb the neighborhood after 10pm or before 7am we live really close together thankfully not an HOA but still some people ignore it but as long as no one cares it's fine and I understand the op as a neighbors kids like hitting rocks with a baseball bat out across the road and it's a matter of time before his dad will be buying a lot of new glass at this rate

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Matt Mosher
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Nobody should making a bunch of noise before 8am. Its common courtesy. Can't believe how rude some of the original responses were. People are assholes.

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1 year ago

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Charles Ersimoen
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Someone said "use earplugs" - you have to consider that earplugs often fall out. Imagine they do before kids go up, they start playing, start making noise. Then, you're awake, and probably unable to fall back asleep as I've noticed that this is the case for a lot of people - once they wake, they won't fall asleep. Or have to be trying for a long time because they have no other option. Not trying earplugs before complaining is inconsiderate too, in my opinion. If they don't work, that's ok.

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Bex
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is in Gloucester by me, Quedgley isn't a town it's just an area of Gloucester lol. Doubt the council would bother tbh

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Holvnn Olive Ntivuguruzwa
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A lot of things makes me hate living in the western and Europe, I never understand how playing kids at 6:45 makes a problem. It's not even 6:00.🙄🙄

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GMc
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't think it's the playing. It's the screeching and screaming. General playing is one thing but nails on a chalkboard screeching is another. But then again if quiet time is 10pm to 7am, OP is out of luck. Now that said I'd go to the parents and see if they could train the kids to not screech. If not no problem. I'll be playing my thrash metal till 10pm just to keep their kids (and them) awake.

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Sweetie Babylon
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

People, and I use the term loosely to describe these types, need to learn to reign their cum trophies in. Keep your loser spawn out of the way of real people who value their time and lives as actual adults not weighed down by the burden of their own mistakes. Just because you're fed up of hearing your squalling and screaming pieces of human detritus doesn't mean you should set them upon the rest of us. Your mistake. Your burden. Your problem.

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Amy Taylor
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wow... I won't down vote you because we have different opinions, but at one point you were a "cum trophy" and "weighed your parents with the burden of their own mistakes"

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Leo Domitrix
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

@Elea Bell said it well. We're programmed to respond to children crying out. It's that we just react to them ----- negatively or positively, we react. Also, kids are gonna be noisy, so... there are good earplugs out there!

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Upper Enchilada
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

9 am is already too hot to play outdoors. Sure, the parent should try to keep the noise down, but the guy should be a bit more compassionate.

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Leoninus Fate
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1 year ago

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when i was 13 i finally was able to play with out frear of someone beating me or hurtn me, I would go out at 5 am and play, I wouldn't make loud sounds till 7 am, and now that I'm 36 i play games all night, i play loud noices from 7am till 9pm, cause that's the times I would let the b*ich call and get told, oh no they have to wait 15 mins before playing again, and then you can do nothing about it" I have never never heard of a 9am, sound warning

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Felice Coles
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1 year ago

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Were the kids playing Metallica on violins? Starting their own fire circus? No? Then get a grip. Let's face it, there's going to be noise at 6:45 AM. Does OP not want birdsong? Cars driving? Garbage collection? Everyone should tiptoe around OP's neighborhood until 9 AM? "For God's sake, don't sneeze! You'll awaken The Beast!" What a miserable person.

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Stephen Walker
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1 year ago

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If I hit the mega millions... I'd be petty and buy a house right next to this person complaining about kids and blast nursery rhyme music instead.

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Cynthia Bonville
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1 year ago

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"The birds are up screaming at daybreak, can I get them to shut up?" Kids that age naturally get up around 5am, and they're twins, I think this is the best and wholesome thing to allow them access to the outside in their yard to use their space as is natural for children. Might as well lasso the sun to keep it dark later, or tape birds mouth shut. They aren't using electronic devices or playing a stereo, no leaf blowers or lawn mowers, all is good. I do suggest good ear plugs and a nice white noise device for yourself you big baby.

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Kristal
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OP never said if they were using electronic devices or not, they only said playing. It's easy for children to be loud without electronic devices ... ever let one loose with a pot and spatula? Instant LOUD drum. Don't name call people and don't assume parts of a story to justify your own point of view.

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