Progressive Muslim Gets Tricked Into Eating Pork On His Birthday, Wonders If He Should Move Out And Leave His BF
How much your partner respects your boundaries is a good indication of how they’ll treat you as your relationship moves forward. And if they trick you and prank you without any care for your feelings or your complicated relationship with your culture and religion, then maybe it’s time to move on.
One redditor, who goes by the nickname Ileriatis and was raised as a Turkish Muslim, turned to the AITA community for their words of wisdom. He was considering moving to a new place after his boyfriend, J, tricked him into eating pork on his birthday.
Now, even though the redditor admits that he’s progressive, he also feels like his boyfriend, a proud atheist, disrespected his religious beliefs. So Ileriatis wanted to get the internet’s take on whether he’s overreacting or if him getting angry was par for course. You’ll find the full story below, dear Pandas.
A redditor, who is a progressive Muslim, shared how his partner tricked him into eating pork
Image credits: Bexx Brown-Spinelli (not the actual photo)
The AITA community overwhelmingly said that Ileriatis wasn’t doing anything wrong. His bf overstepped his boundaries and broached a taboo topic in a very disrespectful way. The fact that he “was in hysterics” perfectly shows how he views belief systems that aren’t his own.
Actually, imagine somebody besides a college student feeding their partner pork in secret and what the backlash would be in the media and in society. Whatever your views on religion, you don’t go about breaking taboos willy-nilly just for a bit of fun. It’s only a joke if both sides are laughing.
And that’s exactly what British stand-up comedian Ariane Sherine, who is half-Asian, told Bored Panda during an earlier interview. “Humor defuses a situation, so if you claim ‘oh, it’s only a joke, I didn’t mean it’ then it often acts as a kind of mitigating factor. But of course, racist jokes are harmful and offensive,” she said.
One example of harmful and racist comedy that Ariane gave us is the output of the late British comic Bernard Manning. The comic “used to say, ‘I’m not racist, I make jokes about everyone,’ but if your jokes incite racial hatred, they aren’t jokes,” Ariane pointed out.
Just because somebody is more progressive doesn’t automatically negate all of the cultural and religious traditions that they grew up with. The Holy Quran forbids Muslims to eat pork, as it is one of the foods considered to be forbidden or haram. One exception to this rule, according to The National, is if one of the faithful were starving and there was nothing else to eat but pork.
In the Muslim faith, pork is considered to be an impure and unhealthy food. Whether this is or isn’t the case scientifically doesn’t change the fact that this belief is a part of Islam and ought to be respected by others.
Here’s how people have been reacting to the story. Most supported the original poster and said it was all right for him to be mad
You wouldn’t serve pork to a Muslim or someone of the Jewish faith, you wouldn’t feed a Hindu beef, and you wouldn’t give serve a devout Christian meat on a Friday. Even if someone’s an atheist, it doesn’t automatically mean that their ability to think and be polite automatically leaves them. Which makes what Ileriatis’ partner did even more unreasonable. What do you think the redditor should do, dear Pandas?
People don't realize the harm they cause when they pull these kinds of stunts. Had a hair dresser tell me one time that she puts chicken broth in foods that she makes to trick her vegan friends into eating it. She says they call her the next day to complain about how badly their intestines hurt from it. After she was done with my hair, I went to the manager and told her I would not be returning until the girl was gone. When the hair dresser thought I was over reacting, I said "Do you realize some people go vegan because they have allergies or medical conditions. One person I know is vegan because she has a thyroid condition. You would have sent her to the emergency room with that stunt." Slipping food to someone in this manner is a vile thing to do when you know it goes against their religion or beliefs. It's NOT funny.
Lifelong (or near enough) vegetarian. People have done that to me. They truly don't see that their actions are sh&tty. Yet it is. Their bodies, their food choices, and the only thing they "prove" to vegan and vegetarian friends is that they are *not* our friends!
Load More Replies...Completely disrespectful. He showed no respect and no remorse afterwards. I don't think you are the asshole or overreacting. Who knows what else he would do in the future.
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Load More Replies...NTA at all! What kind of horrible human being would do this, even as a joke? It goes against his religion so respect it! It's his choice what he eats and he trusted this person. This is a huge red flag. Run away while you still can!
Even if it didn't went against religion, it's still a dietary choice and should be respected. This reminded me of mean "pranks" - I never found those funny either
Load More Replies...Apart from everything (being disrespectful, ignoring boundaries ect) this wasn't even funny to begin with... And he's was laughing hysterically??
NTA. This is disgusting. He is a horrible being. Your values are not a joke and your consent matters. This is not funny. Leaving him is the right thing to do. This is a red flag. You told him it bothers you and he is not taking you seriously? Why would you want to be with someone like that? How can there be trust? You are gonna find a partner who would never mistreat you like that. Also, you are not overreacting. If it bothers you it bothers you. The right partner takes you seriously. Don't let anyone ever downplay your anger.
He disrespected you & then blew you off when you voiced your feelings on the matter. Giving him any more of you/your time only gives him more opportunity to further disrespect you. Find someone who actually cares about you and your beliefs. Dump him now! NTA
Dump him now! He doesn't love you if he finds this so funny. He is very immature and only out to please himself.
The audacity of this person to do something like this! If the bf really respected the OP then he should have asked first, like already someone said in the post. But blindfolding him and tricking him? Whoa! Regardless of the fact that it was OP's birthday, that is way out of boundary. And that person should learn to respect people's boundaries.
Why is this even a question? "J" is a gobshite, and in dire need of adult supervision.
As someone who isn’t Muslim, but is married to a Muslim, he is definitely NTA.
Whatever is the reason (from religion to I dont want to) you're an adult and responsible for your choices. Nobody should force you to do something you don't want to(not only in food).
That's not funny. Being Muslim isn't just about the religion, it's an entire cultural. Yes religion is apart of it but being Muslim is like being Jewish. The majority of the faith are born into it and you may not be a practicing Muslim but it doesn't mean you're not Muslim. That's one thing that a lot of people don't seem to grasp especially in the U.S.. I had to try to explain this to a friend of mine. Yes, you can be non-born-Muslim who joins the faith just like non-born-Jew can join the faith, but being born into is a big cultural thing.
NTA. I've been a vegetarian since 1974. My dad thought it was great to "force" meat on me. I deeply disliked then (and now) the smell/texture/taste of meat. (No, we don't know why, but maybe it was having had squirrel once too often....) Anyway, IT IS NOT OKAY. Someone's diet may be a choice, a religious tenet, but whatever, it is not okay to violate that choice. IMHO
One should never mess with another persons food just in case you trigger an allergic reaction. It is disrespectful. It is wrong and bang out of order.
People need to understand that our refusal to eat pork as Muslims is not an invitation to trick us into eating it. You have no right to do that. It's basic human decency. I would never be friends with someone who is insensitive and callous enough to do this. If I refuse to eat something and you trick me into eating it, be prepared to be fed dog poo as your next meal.
NTA - you deserve to be treated with love, kindness and respect. This person violated your trust, disrespected your culture, and your faith-based choices, and did it for their own amusement. It's emotional abuse, and this is not a nice person. If this had been done by mistake or if he had misunderstood your position on eating pork, and tried a practical joke that misfired badly, he would have empathised with your distress, and apologised sincerely, and tried to make amends. Instead, he has dismissed your distress as being inconsequential, and laughing at you. This is a major red flag, and it's time to leave the relationship.
I don't want to go left, but isn't being gay against the Muslim faith (no negative connotations intended)? Why would eating a little pork create such a freak out? (Hey, I don't eat any meat and I'm an Episcopalian.). Just wondering.
No, there are many interpretations of the Islamic faith, and plenty of Muslims who are accepting of gay people or who are gay themselves. True, some people with more extreme and literal interpretations of the Qur'an say that to be gay is a sin, but it is a misconception that all Muslims denounce it. In terms of pork, it is not comparable with eating meat as an Episcopalian. Not eating pork is something that most Muslims agree on, whereas I go to an Episcopal school and have never heard of an Episcopalian being vegetarian for religious reasons, so it doesn't seem to be as common. Also, in Islam, pork is just absolutely forbidden, it is seen as impious to eat pig and is forbidden. It is not halal, meaning that it isn't considered fit to eat. Hope that helps! Also, fyi, I appreciate the way that you asked these questions - you were very respectful and genuinely curious to know more and I appreciate that :)
Load More Replies...i would cry if someone did tht to me cuz even im muslim.... we r not allowed to drink beer and eat pork or touch dogs.. (if we do touch one by mistake or in an emergency eg:to save it... then we have to wash our hands seven times once with sand... to get rid of the germs) so feeding pork or smthn we are forbidden is disrespectful bruh.... i feel sad people are being treated this way.....
This boyfriend is totally disrespectful and he has every right to break up with him. You don't disrespect someone else's dietary habits or anything else like that. That would be like someone knowing that I am allergic to fish and tricking me into eating it or someone knowing that I don't like spicy food and preparing spicy food on purpose.
It's very simple. Either you embrace your religion enough for this to be a deal-breaker (and he's the ass for misunderstanding just how "progressive" you are) or not. No need to ask other people; only you know how big of a deal this is.
I disagree. This isn't even about how much one embraces their religion. If the boyfriend thought this was hilarious, he is a problem. Even if the OP decides they can come to terms with the religious implications.
Load More Replies...That is actually a fairly common problem for lots of people: others does not respect their beliefs. May not allways be about food, though.
In muslim eating pork is a cardinal sin but if its by accident its ok
Yep, if my wife or friend or anyone did that to me, I would be fuming and would have to leave the room before I smacked them one.
Tricking someone into eating/drinking something they don't want to is a d**k move, no matter if the person doesn't eat it for medical, religious, ethical reasons or just doesn't like the taste.
The relationship only has 1 way to go from here, and that is downhill. What he did is not only completely disrespectful, but reveals J's narcissistic personality disorder. What's next? Putting drugs in your evening beverage? I'd break it off and move on.
Yea leave his "hysterically" laughing ass now. That is not okay. Even if it wouldn't be about religion, it'd still be disrespectful. Like "fooling" a vegan to eat anything that has any animal by-products. Wrong. If someone loves you, they would respect your choices, not joke about them like this.
It was an incredibly disrespectful thing to do. If the relationship has otherwise been a good one and the roommate is remorseful then I think moving out might not be needed. People do stupid things and make really bad judgement calls, it just happens. If they have gotten along well prior to this and if the roommate is sorry and truly didn't feel that it was this important to him, then I think this is something they can work out. If this seems more like a trend in the roommates personality then move.
It's like serving puledro (foal steak) to English people... not that I would know this from experience.
Religion is a form of control. Even telling you what you can and can't eat? Ridiculous!
Moslem women should not shack-up. Moslem men should not be homos. Pork should not be an issue.
First off, why is he upset? Being gay is also against Islam, therefore I dont see any reason why he should overreact of eating pork. That is double standard.
To all the people bringing him being gay into it: don't. It's not a choice to be gay, so just leave him alone.
I'm muslim & i want to tell you something guys. In islam, Being gay is worse than ate pork "accidentally". According to the law, gay muslim should be punished with death penalty while muslim who ate pork unintentionally will be forgiven.
You must have not read the Quran, because I read it every day, and in it, it says you can have free choice.
Load More Replies...Wait, this guy is in a same sex relationship and he got upset cause he ate some pork? That ship sailed a long time ago buddy
Wait a second, this guy is in a same sex relationship and he is complaining because he ate some pork? Dude that ship sailed a long time ago
On one hand, the bf was not cool to trick someone into eating something they don't want to eat. On the other, the OP is terribly confused if he takes the prohibition against pork so seriously yet ignores the prohibition against his intimate proclivities. I can understand why the bf would take the OPs residual religious scruples less than seriously when he's receiving such mixed signals.
My husband is a chef and at culinary school, there was a Muslim girl. The teachers made her taste everything, even pork. She was allowed to spit it out, but as a chef, she had to taste it.
Bruv your gay though? You can try call it progressive but Islam and Christianity isn't.. you're just a gay dude who don't eat pork and your mans is an ass for tricking you into eating it but don't be bringing religion into it as a defence to make it more than what it is
No he is s Muslim gay dude who doesn't eat pork because he's Muslim
Load More Replies...That is exactly how faith works, you make it your own. Nobody can be a gate keeper on your faith.
Load More Replies...What kind of whataboutism is this now? A person who chooses not to eat [pork, or bunnies, or kittens, or meat in general] and is clear & consistent about it. That's who got tricked into eating exactly that, just "for the lolz". There is nothing else; all the rest you're just building in your head.
Load More Replies...If this person is comfortable with being gay, and/or comfortable with following the Islamic faith is 100% his decision. It is not relevant to this discussion, and it is not your place to judge him about it.
Load More Replies...I wouldnt say muslims love mohammed more than christians love jesus (its probably sbout equal). But even if mohammed did all those thing I cant remember when he lives, but it was probably normal back than. Either way it is disrespectful to call anyone's religion a "evil myth". That isnt how you get anyone to change religion, and you shouldnt really be trying anyway.
Load More Replies...Catholicism also "claims" same-sex relationships are wrong, but a lot of Catholics are still lesbian, gay, bisexual, etc. On top of that, my sister moved to Turkey and married a Serbian man. I've visited them before. All of her kids can tell pork from chicken or beef just by looking at it or even smelling it. I'd expect they know by taste, too. So this story could be valid.
Load More Replies...Given that if a [vegan] unknowingly eats [insert animal product here] it's not considered a sin... His boyfriend made him do it unknowingly so it's a loophole in the [belief/personal choice] and has pure logical nothing to do with disrespect to him being a [vegan]. Just towards not respecting his personal choice of not eating [animal product]. 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️ Yes, it is disrespect towards religion AND towards personal choice. Even if it's a loophole, it's still very mean. *Edit: clearly, veganism is not a religion, but I made a conscious decision to change your sentence into non-religious, dietary-restriction type. I hope you'll see it's still disrespectful.
Load More Replies...That's their right. You get to cherry-pick, too. If you're an atheist (like me), I certainly won't get on your case if you say a prayer. :)
Load More Replies...It sounds as if your faith is based on dogma and not on spirituality. Following rules may be simpler for you than thinking about what seem to be contradictions. That's fine, but you might want to couch that as your personal preference. There are Muslims who are open to discussions and dialogue, especially in Europe and North America. Some hijabis are at the forefront of progressive thinking, such as allowing women a greater role in mosques.
Load More Replies...He is a progressive Muslim. And being gay is not a choice but him not eating pork is a choice.
Load More Replies...People don't realize the harm they cause when they pull these kinds of stunts. Had a hair dresser tell me one time that she puts chicken broth in foods that she makes to trick her vegan friends into eating it. She says they call her the next day to complain about how badly their intestines hurt from it. After she was done with my hair, I went to the manager and told her I would not be returning until the girl was gone. When the hair dresser thought I was over reacting, I said "Do you realize some people go vegan because they have allergies or medical conditions. One person I know is vegan because she has a thyroid condition. You would have sent her to the emergency room with that stunt." Slipping food to someone in this manner is a vile thing to do when you know it goes against their religion or beliefs. It's NOT funny.
Lifelong (or near enough) vegetarian. People have done that to me. They truly don't see that their actions are sh&tty. Yet it is. Their bodies, their food choices, and the only thing they "prove" to vegan and vegetarian friends is that they are *not* our friends!
Load More Replies...Completely disrespectful. He showed no respect and no remorse afterwards. I don't think you are the asshole or overreacting. Who knows what else he would do in the future.
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Load More Replies...NTA at all! What kind of horrible human being would do this, even as a joke? It goes against his religion so respect it! It's his choice what he eats and he trusted this person. This is a huge red flag. Run away while you still can!
Even if it didn't went against religion, it's still a dietary choice and should be respected. This reminded me of mean "pranks" - I never found those funny either
Load More Replies...Apart from everything (being disrespectful, ignoring boundaries ect) this wasn't even funny to begin with... And he's was laughing hysterically??
NTA. This is disgusting. He is a horrible being. Your values are not a joke and your consent matters. This is not funny. Leaving him is the right thing to do. This is a red flag. You told him it bothers you and he is not taking you seriously? Why would you want to be with someone like that? How can there be trust? You are gonna find a partner who would never mistreat you like that. Also, you are not overreacting. If it bothers you it bothers you. The right partner takes you seriously. Don't let anyone ever downplay your anger.
He disrespected you & then blew you off when you voiced your feelings on the matter. Giving him any more of you/your time only gives him more opportunity to further disrespect you. Find someone who actually cares about you and your beliefs. Dump him now! NTA
Dump him now! He doesn't love you if he finds this so funny. He is very immature and only out to please himself.
The audacity of this person to do something like this! If the bf really respected the OP then he should have asked first, like already someone said in the post. But blindfolding him and tricking him? Whoa! Regardless of the fact that it was OP's birthday, that is way out of boundary. And that person should learn to respect people's boundaries.
Why is this even a question? "J" is a gobshite, and in dire need of adult supervision.
As someone who isn’t Muslim, but is married to a Muslim, he is definitely NTA.
Whatever is the reason (from religion to I dont want to) you're an adult and responsible for your choices. Nobody should force you to do something you don't want to(not only in food).
That's not funny. Being Muslim isn't just about the religion, it's an entire cultural. Yes religion is apart of it but being Muslim is like being Jewish. The majority of the faith are born into it and you may not be a practicing Muslim but it doesn't mean you're not Muslim. That's one thing that a lot of people don't seem to grasp especially in the U.S.. I had to try to explain this to a friend of mine. Yes, you can be non-born-Muslim who joins the faith just like non-born-Jew can join the faith, but being born into is a big cultural thing.
NTA. I've been a vegetarian since 1974. My dad thought it was great to "force" meat on me. I deeply disliked then (and now) the smell/texture/taste of meat. (No, we don't know why, but maybe it was having had squirrel once too often....) Anyway, IT IS NOT OKAY. Someone's diet may be a choice, a religious tenet, but whatever, it is not okay to violate that choice. IMHO
One should never mess with another persons food just in case you trigger an allergic reaction. It is disrespectful. It is wrong and bang out of order.
People need to understand that our refusal to eat pork as Muslims is not an invitation to trick us into eating it. You have no right to do that. It's basic human decency. I would never be friends with someone who is insensitive and callous enough to do this. If I refuse to eat something and you trick me into eating it, be prepared to be fed dog poo as your next meal.
NTA - you deserve to be treated with love, kindness and respect. This person violated your trust, disrespected your culture, and your faith-based choices, and did it for their own amusement. It's emotional abuse, and this is not a nice person. If this had been done by mistake or if he had misunderstood your position on eating pork, and tried a practical joke that misfired badly, he would have empathised with your distress, and apologised sincerely, and tried to make amends. Instead, he has dismissed your distress as being inconsequential, and laughing at you. This is a major red flag, and it's time to leave the relationship.
I don't want to go left, but isn't being gay against the Muslim faith (no negative connotations intended)? Why would eating a little pork create such a freak out? (Hey, I don't eat any meat and I'm an Episcopalian.). Just wondering.
No, there are many interpretations of the Islamic faith, and plenty of Muslims who are accepting of gay people or who are gay themselves. True, some people with more extreme and literal interpretations of the Qur'an say that to be gay is a sin, but it is a misconception that all Muslims denounce it. In terms of pork, it is not comparable with eating meat as an Episcopalian. Not eating pork is something that most Muslims agree on, whereas I go to an Episcopal school and have never heard of an Episcopalian being vegetarian for religious reasons, so it doesn't seem to be as common. Also, in Islam, pork is just absolutely forbidden, it is seen as impious to eat pig and is forbidden. It is not halal, meaning that it isn't considered fit to eat. Hope that helps! Also, fyi, I appreciate the way that you asked these questions - you were very respectful and genuinely curious to know more and I appreciate that :)
Load More Replies...i would cry if someone did tht to me cuz even im muslim.... we r not allowed to drink beer and eat pork or touch dogs.. (if we do touch one by mistake or in an emergency eg:to save it... then we have to wash our hands seven times once with sand... to get rid of the germs) so feeding pork or smthn we are forbidden is disrespectful bruh.... i feel sad people are being treated this way.....
This boyfriend is totally disrespectful and he has every right to break up with him. You don't disrespect someone else's dietary habits or anything else like that. That would be like someone knowing that I am allergic to fish and tricking me into eating it or someone knowing that I don't like spicy food and preparing spicy food on purpose.
It's very simple. Either you embrace your religion enough for this to be a deal-breaker (and he's the ass for misunderstanding just how "progressive" you are) or not. No need to ask other people; only you know how big of a deal this is.
I disagree. This isn't even about how much one embraces their religion. If the boyfriend thought this was hilarious, he is a problem. Even if the OP decides they can come to terms with the religious implications.
Load More Replies...That is actually a fairly common problem for lots of people: others does not respect their beliefs. May not allways be about food, though.
In muslim eating pork is a cardinal sin but if its by accident its ok
Yep, if my wife or friend or anyone did that to me, I would be fuming and would have to leave the room before I smacked them one.
Tricking someone into eating/drinking something they don't want to is a d**k move, no matter if the person doesn't eat it for medical, religious, ethical reasons or just doesn't like the taste.
The relationship only has 1 way to go from here, and that is downhill. What he did is not only completely disrespectful, but reveals J's narcissistic personality disorder. What's next? Putting drugs in your evening beverage? I'd break it off and move on.
Yea leave his "hysterically" laughing ass now. That is not okay. Even if it wouldn't be about religion, it'd still be disrespectful. Like "fooling" a vegan to eat anything that has any animal by-products. Wrong. If someone loves you, they would respect your choices, not joke about them like this.
It was an incredibly disrespectful thing to do. If the relationship has otherwise been a good one and the roommate is remorseful then I think moving out might not be needed. People do stupid things and make really bad judgement calls, it just happens. If they have gotten along well prior to this and if the roommate is sorry and truly didn't feel that it was this important to him, then I think this is something they can work out. If this seems more like a trend in the roommates personality then move.
It's like serving puledro (foal steak) to English people... not that I would know this from experience.
Religion is a form of control. Even telling you what you can and can't eat? Ridiculous!
Moslem women should not shack-up. Moslem men should not be homos. Pork should not be an issue.
First off, why is he upset? Being gay is also against Islam, therefore I dont see any reason why he should overreact of eating pork. That is double standard.
To all the people bringing him being gay into it: don't. It's not a choice to be gay, so just leave him alone.
I'm muslim & i want to tell you something guys. In islam, Being gay is worse than ate pork "accidentally". According to the law, gay muslim should be punished with death penalty while muslim who ate pork unintentionally will be forgiven.
You must have not read the Quran, because I read it every day, and in it, it says you can have free choice.
Load More Replies...Wait, this guy is in a same sex relationship and he got upset cause he ate some pork? That ship sailed a long time ago buddy
Wait a second, this guy is in a same sex relationship and he is complaining because he ate some pork? Dude that ship sailed a long time ago
On one hand, the bf was not cool to trick someone into eating something they don't want to eat. On the other, the OP is terribly confused if he takes the prohibition against pork so seriously yet ignores the prohibition against his intimate proclivities. I can understand why the bf would take the OPs residual religious scruples less than seriously when he's receiving such mixed signals.
My husband is a chef and at culinary school, there was a Muslim girl. The teachers made her taste everything, even pork. She was allowed to spit it out, but as a chef, she had to taste it.
Bruv your gay though? You can try call it progressive but Islam and Christianity isn't.. you're just a gay dude who don't eat pork and your mans is an ass for tricking you into eating it but don't be bringing religion into it as a defence to make it more than what it is
No he is s Muslim gay dude who doesn't eat pork because he's Muslim
Load More Replies...That is exactly how faith works, you make it your own. Nobody can be a gate keeper on your faith.
Load More Replies...What kind of whataboutism is this now? A person who chooses not to eat [pork, or bunnies, or kittens, or meat in general] and is clear & consistent about it. That's who got tricked into eating exactly that, just "for the lolz". There is nothing else; all the rest you're just building in your head.
Load More Replies...If this person is comfortable with being gay, and/or comfortable with following the Islamic faith is 100% his decision. It is not relevant to this discussion, and it is not your place to judge him about it.
Load More Replies...I wouldnt say muslims love mohammed more than christians love jesus (its probably sbout equal). But even if mohammed did all those thing I cant remember when he lives, but it was probably normal back than. Either way it is disrespectful to call anyone's religion a "evil myth". That isnt how you get anyone to change religion, and you shouldnt really be trying anyway.
Load More Replies...Catholicism also "claims" same-sex relationships are wrong, but a lot of Catholics are still lesbian, gay, bisexual, etc. On top of that, my sister moved to Turkey and married a Serbian man. I've visited them before. All of her kids can tell pork from chicken or beef just by looking at it or even smelling it. I'd expect they know by taste, too. So this story could be valid.
Load More Replies...Given that if a [vegan] unknowingly eats [insert animal product here] it's not considered a sin... His boyfriend made him do it unknowingly so it's a loophole in the [belief/personal choice] and has pure logical nothing to do with disrespect to him being a [vegan]. Just towards not respecting his personal choice of not eating [animal product]. 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️ Yes, it is disrespect towards religion AND towards personal choice. Even if it's a loophole, it's still very mean. *Edit: clearly, veganism is not a religion, but I made a conscious decision to change your sentence into non-religious, dietary-restriction type. I hope you'll see it's still disrespectful.
Load More Replies...That's their right. You get to cherry-pick, too. If you're an atheist (like me), I certainly won't get on your case if you say a prayer. :)
Load More Replies...It sounds as if your faith is based on dogma and not on spirituality. Following rules may be simpler for you than thinking about what seem to be contradictions. That's fine, but you might want to couch that as your personal preference. There are Muslims who are open to discussions and dialogue, especially in Europe and North America. Some hijabis are at the forefront of progressive thinking, such as allowing women a greater role in mosques.
Load More Replies...He is a progressive Muslim. And being gay is not a choice but him not eating pork is a choice.
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