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Travel’s great. You get to see new things, meet new people, get some perspective in life, disconnect from your regular life and recharge, in turn making you happier and giving you peace of mind, improving your communication skills and creativity, possibly boosting your confidence along the way, making memories, helping you understand yourself more, perhaps even improving your health… you get the point. It’s awesome.

But there is bound to be a ‘spoiled egg’ of a destination among travelers that just left a bad taste in their mouths, whether because the expectations were overhyped, or the destination was just not that good. Whatever the case may be, people have been discussing this online.

A Redditor by the nickname of u/0_7_0 posted the question “what city disappointed you the most when visiting?” on the r/AskReddit subreddit. This in turn prompted over 6,600 comments with a modest 5,900 upvotes and a handful of Reddit awards.

Scroll down to see the top cities people were most disappointed with and hence do not recommend. And while you’re at it, tell us which cities you were most disappointed with in the comment section below!

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#1

30 Overrated Places That Aren’t Worth A Visit, As Pointed Out By Folks Online wric84 said:
Came here to say Dubai. Decided to spend 10 days there while passing through. Had enough of it after 24 hours. Too many f$#&!&# malls. No culture.

Learned all about the ABCs though...

c19isdeadly replied:
Me too!

Horrid place, fancy malls and hotels for the westerners, but the streets are full of the poor / slaves. You really see what misery the whole place is built on.

I went there for work, I can't imagine how people can go there for fun.

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While each city is unique in its own way, with many people on Reddit experiencing the same unique reasons for disappointment, there have been recurring themes among answers.

Most notably, it was things like the city had a certain unpleasant smell to it, or was trashy, whether actually untidy or just very cheap. Or both.

Some other places, like for instance Niagara Falls and Egypt had people feeling weird about the fact that the key attractions in these places, namely the Niagara Falls and the Pyramids, were very close to the cities themselves, and not some distant secret location offering adventure and excitement.

Lastly, yet others found some cities too modern, digital, and “plastic”, with things like casinos and malls creating a sense of unnatural urban development that lacks history and pathos.

#2

30 Overrated Places That Aren’t Worth A Visit, As Pointed Out By Folks Online themeanlantern said:
I hated Las Vegas so very f**king much. So dry, so trashy, so smokey, ugh.


regular6drunk7 replied:
Las Vegas reminded me of being inside a gigantic McDonalds. Everywhere bright colors, artificial happiness and fake smiles and all mathematically calculated to take the maximum amount of money out of your pocket.

The most charm-free place I've ever been.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Las Vegas casinos are some of the most unpleasant places I've ever been, loud, disorienting, joyless, and full of zombies. Back when I was last there, some years ago now, it was also difficult for anyone with mobility issues. I've given it a hard pass since.

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#3

30 Overrated Places That Aren’t Worth A Visit, As Pointed Out By Folks Online Hollywood. And am embarrassed for people who travel around the world to see it. What they imagine it to be vs reality. Sorry, it's not what you expected you can have a good time in Hollywood, but do your research and check your expectations. Also, a lot of you seem to think I said the entirety of Los Angeles. LA definitely has plenty of problems, but if you truly think all of LA has nothing to offer, even for a visit, you've probably never step foot in a museum or tried foreign cuisine. The best concerts I've ever been to have all been in LA.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You mean there are no celebrities in line waiting to greet you??? Noooo!!!! My life is a lie

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30 Overrated Places That Aren’t Worth A Visit, As Pointed Out By Folks Online Bali changed so much the last 10 years. It used to be so beautiful and amazing… now it is full of “digital nomad” douchebags and overpriced food and crap. I remember when it was just a cool surf spot with cheap eats

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Bored Panda has reached out to Irmante Sungailaite, an avid traveler and tour leader of G Adventures and National Geographic Journeys, to tell us more about what makes cities special for travelers, among other things.

"I have been traveling for 16 years, and I haven't meticulously kept a diary of all the cities that I have been to, as after 80 countries it's too easy to lose the count, but I can tell you that some places tend to steal your heart instantly, and some of them, well, you wouldn't even recommend it to your worst enemy," explained Irmante.

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"As part of my work as a tour leader, I get to go to see many of the top of the 'bucket list' cities that many travelers are dying to discover. I have to admit that Venice has never been my top choice in Italy, but since my friends moved back there I got to see it in a totally different light--so places do change as well as you and your outlook does too."

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30 Overrated Places That Aren’t Worth A Visit, As Pointed Out By Folks Online Beijing. I arrived at the end of a trans- Mongolian rail trip seeing so many incredible places and I think it was just a huge anticlimax. Was intimidated by the level of armed security everywhere, had to fight off so many scammers, didn't enjoy being touched and laughed at when on the subway (I'm a very white European with curly hair). Overall just found it really challenging despite some amazing sights.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was there in -99, so a lot has probably changed since then, but I enjoyed Bejing - so many fascinating, historical sites. There were a lot of scammers back then too, but no armed security, so maybe it wasn't as bad. And people kept handing us their babies and taking pictures of us holding them, which was odd, but not in a bad way. No pointing and laughing, even though we were both white (and one had curly hair), but then we didn't go on the subway (didn't know they had one - maybe it's new)

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#6

30 Overrated Places That Aren’t Worth A Visit, As Pointed Out By Folks Online Pompeii

The Atmosphere was toxic, the local fair was rather bland, nothing was showing at the local amphitheater, and it seems like everyone you visit is sleeping.

Quiet neighborhood though.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Okay, I read toxic atmosphere and thought it to be a satirical post on when Pompeï still was a blast these many centuries ago.. 😅

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30 Overrated Places That Aren’t Worth A Visit, As Pointed Out By Folks Online User_492006 said:
Atlantic City. It's waayyy dirtier and run down than I thought it'd be.

housespecialdelight replied:
NJ resident. Atlantic City is terrible outside the casinos. You have to stick to the casinos outside of the boardwalk (Borgata or Harrahs) if you want to have a more classy experience.

There are some pretty old school amazing restaurants off the grid to venture out to though.

plz-pm-me-your-b**bz replied:
I was so disappointed by this city and my expectations weren't even high. It was just nasty there. The whole experience felt like biting into an apple only to realize it's an onion.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't live far from here but I've only visited Atlantic City twice. Once was to bring a boat into a dock there and once was to pick up a bushel of blue point crabs to take back home to cook. There are much nicer/quieter beach towns to see in New Jersey.

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"If you choose a well known destination, there is a really high chance of it having a lot of 'tourist traps' but even then you can dig a little bit deeper and go local," elaborated Irmante. "It's also a lot about reality vs expectations--going to UAE, you have to understand that there will be a lot of malls--and if that's your thing--it will be better than heaven for anyone who is into strolling brightly lit miles of stores. Even in places like Dubai you can find gems that are off the beaten path - like going to Alserkal avenue that is full of art galleries, local artists workshops, quaint cafes, an independent cinema and a scrumptious chocolaterie."

#8

30 Overrated Places That Aren’t Worth A Visit, As Pointed Out By Folks Online Dread_Wolf_TakeMe said:
Branson Missouri felt like if wish.com were a place

Frenchy4life replied;
I have heard it called the Christian Las Vegas, couldn't have better described it. However, I did have fun..... went Zip Lining, saw a magic show, had an awesome brunch at the College of the Ozarks. I would rate that trip a 7 out fof 10. Especially since my parents did the stupid time share presentations to get free stuff lol

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It is what fundamentalists think is fun. The entire thing is rural wholeomer-than-thou non-amusement park.

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#9

30 Overrated Places That Aren’t Worth A Visit, As Pointed Out By Folks Online Miami. I never have allergies and had level 10 allergies pretty much as soon as I arrived. The food was over priced. Clubs were WAY over priced. There were to many plasticy people walking around. The social culture was way to rich for my blood. And I went with a narcissistic jackaloon (unrelated to the city but relevant to my disdain.)

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#10

30 Overrated Places That Aren’t Worth A Visit, As Pointed Out By Folks Online youburyitidigitup said:
Niagara Falls. I didn’t know the falls would be in a city. I thought it would be a national park. The whole place just felt like a giant shopping mall.

SaraAB87 said:
There is a state park to it, that is where the actual falls is. But of course the tourist area is like that. Also you don't want to go outside the tourist area on either the American or Canadian side of the falls, much crime occurs and both sides are extremely run down.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Canadian here. Yep the tourist area with the amusements and food traps is ind of tacky. But it is not aiming for anything else. It is superposed to be an old fashioned loud touristy area. But the falls themselves are amazing and the surrounding Niagara area is beautiful.

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30 Overrated Places That Aren’t Worth A Visit, As Pointed Out By Folks Online I know everyone loves Marrakesh, but i hated it

it would have been amazing before about 2000, but now it just feels like a disneyland version of their culture to cater to western tourists. ali baba costumes pretending to be desert nomads. half of their ‘hand made goods’ are just cheap s**t from china. and u cant walk 20 feet without being aporoached by scammers. like, literally every block

the entire city just feels like a facade to attract dumb tourist money

i get why ppl love it, but that was my take

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The usual order of things, unfortunately, where you can earn money from tourists. Marrakesh is great, although I prefer Fez.

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According to Irmante, much of one's own experience of a place depends on the travelers themselves. While cities ought to provide a traveler-friendly environment, being able to enjoy the so-called 'tourist trap' is also something that requires a certain kind of skill and appreciation.

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"I always wonder, though, what it was like to visit Barcelona or Dubrovnik 30 years ago and how they've changed, these places adapted to travelers' needs, meaning that sometimes they even tend to drift from their authenticity in order to make people feel comfortable being guests. It takes a seasoned traveler to go to lesser known destinations, but to thoroughly and authentically enjoy 'tourist traps' is also an art. So I would say that falling into the 'tourist trap' is up to the traveler itself. The city must have people that are easy to communicate with regardless of whether there's a language barrier, curious culture, different food, and their transport systems are easy to use."

#12

30 Overrated Places That Aren’t Worth A Visit, As Pointed Out By Folks Online As a Dutch person, I'm actually gonna say Amsterdam. So crowded, chaotic and getting run over by other tourists on bikes they've never ridden before. I feel like it's romanticized a lot because it's our capital but the first time I visited, I was genuinely disappointed. It's definitely dirtier on the streets and the canals have a lot of waste drifting in them.

And the people that are there don't seem to understand. "Honey, you're in Amsterdam, isn't it fantastic?" "I'm living the dream because I'm living in Amsterdam!" "Amsterdam is the heart and soul of the Netherlands!"

Meh. I'll just go to Utrecht or Den Bosch instead.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I like Amsterdam. Went there a few years ago for a city break. Really pretty city IMO

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30 Overrated Places That Aren’t Worth A Visit, As Pointed Out By Folks Online DontShootTheFood said:
Austin, Texas. Lived there in the ‘90s and it was pretty great. Now it’s an overcrowded, overpriced douchey mess.

BethG_99 replied:
As someone who grew up in & currently lives in Austin, you are 100% correct. The area is great to visit but horrible to stay in for any long-term period of time. And alot of what made up Austin's "Stay Weird" culture has vanished with the population boom, especially in downtown. Don't get me wrong, there's still plenty in Austin and the surrounding area to have a fun & interesting trip if you're visiting. But don't move here. It's so damn expensive, the population in the city & all the surrounding suburbs has exploded too quickly for infrastructure to keep up, and honestly the snobby attitude of some of the people (especially our local leaders) is becoming increasingly more noticeable. It used to still have the combination of Stay Weird hippy town mixed with Southern hospitality and small town community feel. Both of those have pretty much vanished now. I'm getting out of this area as soon as my boyfriend and I have saved up enough to move.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I definitely concur. I have family who moved there back when "Keep Austin Weird" was still a mantra, then a prayer, now a history. So many independent stores & restaurants have been replaced by chains. The traffic is horrible. The infrastructure just can't keep up with the growth. Compared to California, Texas is an inexpensive place to live, except for Austin, as so many Californians have moved there for the tech jobs. I still love visiting Austin, but it's not what it used to be. Oh yeah...Crappy Governor Greg Abbott is there, so that's another reason to be disappointed by Austin.

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30 Overrated Places That Aren’t Worth A Visit, As Pointed Out By Folks Online Manhattan smells like trash. Constantly. There is very little infrastructure for waste management for a city filled with 100 stories of office buildings, restaurants, and apartments, so on trash day you walk by 8-foot tall walls of trash bags stacked up on the sidewalk waiting for the trash trucks. And on a hot August day, ugh.

The whole city just stinks.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

actually we have a very good infrastructure for waste management, maybe you came during the Sanitation slowdown during the union negotiations. But yeah, that huge wall of trash bags during the day is a lie, they are put out after 6 pm and are picked up over night, further that only applies to residential houses, not stores or apartments. This person is full of BS and probably never was here but saw 1990's Law and Order episdoes.

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30 Overrated Places That Aren’t Worth A Visit, As Pointed Out By Folks Online Idontknowthosewords said:
Paris was so dirty, and I was not prepared for the disdain of the French towards a stupid American. I believed the American Rom-Com movie version of Paris.

BlueberryPiano replied:
Don't forget smelly too. And not just one strong smell so you can get acclimated to it either. Fresh bread, urine, perfume, body odour. Yuck.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Paris is great but people need to manage their expectations and realise it's like any major metropolitan area, as in good and bad. A lot of visitors (especially Americans) have this overly romantic, gooey eyed idea of what they think Paris is so the reality is often a gut punch.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I really enjoyed Paris, but I think I had realistic expectations. I also had good manners.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What? I loved Paris. They could not have possibly been nicer or more helpful. I was really impressed with how nice they were. Not intrusive, but if you asked, they bent over backwards to help. Maybe it was the posters who were the problem?

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I lived just outside Paris for a year, and I loved the place, but it's not like the American movies (but then, what is?) I didn't find it more smelly than any other city, and it's filled with amazing architecture and museums. Parisians are famously rude, but I never experienced it myself, maybe because I spoke (at least some) French.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm sure that helped... but Parisians have also gotten noticeably more tolerant of non-French-speakers in the last few years - probably because of sites like TripAdvisor.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

you should never hope to find a cinema atmosphere in reality, because there is no soundtrack, no mimes and no "typical" guys in beret/marcel/baguette :)

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I've been to Paris many many times (not only for a few days but rather several weeks), and I simply love it: The streets, the people, the architecture...

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Funny, I lived in Paris 18 years, and I simply hated it : the streets, the people,... Ok, the architecture is sometimes nice, but in small areas.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes, I read about it once. https://www.sbs.com.au/news/paris-syndrome-culture-shock-sickness-sends-japanese-tourists-packing

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I asked a friend who went to school in Paris how best not to be an ugly American. She said "not to just do business, greet people and acknowledge them as a person first, say Bonjour. Wait for them to respond, then ask for directions or whatever in English afterward." She was right, I had a wonderful time and everyone was nice to me. They didn't refuse to respond in English. Now I ask how clerks "are today" and make eye contact all the time when I go to a register or am waited on here in the US - it surprises them and they smile. I get good service, and actually find it a pleasure to connect for a moment.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Same in Africa. Treat people as if you are interested in their existence beyond them being a servant of some sort or automaton.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Interesting, its been a while since I last went to Paris. My overwhelming memory was there was very little litter, but quite a lot of dog poo to dodge.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Paris is gorgeous. Again though it's a big city with all that comes with being a city. I have always found the people who live there to be very friendly and helpful if you try to use a little French even a thank you, you are sorted.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

a normal day in my old neighborhood in Paris (not a touristy area) : look how filthy it is ! yuk jules-joff...324015.jpg jules-joffrin-61b06f7324015.jpg

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Lol! Your old neighborhood is so pretty! I've been to France once...in the Alsace region. It was really beautiful, and such a charming little place! I loved everything about it, especially the food. I'd love to visit Paris, but I would feel extremely intimidated since I'm American. I don't think we're liked by most countries lol especially the French. However, if I stay quiet and make my Dutch husband do all of the talking it might be okay lol. 💕

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Researchers at Yale University and Columbia University collaborated with the World Economic Forum to measure the cleanliness and environmental friendliness of 180 countries around the world. To accomplish this task, they created the Environmental Performance Index (EPI). Top 10 Cleanest Countries in the World - 2020 EPI Denmark - 82.5 Luxembourg - 82.3 Switzerland - 81.5 United Kingdom - 81.3 France - 80 Austria - 79.6 Finland - 78.9 Sweden - 78.7 Norway - 77.7 Germany - 77.2

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When I was there, the washed the streets daily - with ungodly amounts of water. And there still was so much dog poo! Now, Christoffel von Grimmelshausen wrote in 1668 that the streets of Paris were extremely "turdy", so it's probably a tradition.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

stepped on dog poop so many times on sidewalk.... seriously.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Paris is my favourite city in the world. Its not perfect, I just love it there.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Paris is not any dirtier than whatever US city. At least it has culture. I don‘t wonder why some have problems acclimating.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Thanks you ruined my fantasy that it smells fresh bread and croissants

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Mimi La Souris
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

when you pass in the street of a baker in the early morning, this is indeed the case

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Are all tourists stupid or just the ones on social media? Why would anyone think a large, populated city would be like the hokey movies you watch?

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Paris is life. Americans are so stupid like, what did you expect??? It is a muktitudinary city, but it is still filled with culture, art and life

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Thanks for lumping us all together. I'm sure you must enjoy hearing how the French are rude snobs.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Life is what you make it. I've been to Paris four times, loved it each time. They are not Americans, how would you react in your home town if some got in your face and asked for directions (without even starting with "Excuse me.") in Mandarin Chinese and naturally expected you to understand and reply in Chinese. I've tried to learn at least a few basic phrases for the country which I'm going to visit before going... "A beer please." and "Where is the bathroom?" are top on the list! I took my 87 year old mom to Europe and told her we would be spending three days in Paris; she responded that one night would be enough... after three days, I barely could drag her away, she loved it and I still do too!

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Not the Americans in the comments trashing on European body odor and culture as if we aren’t over here drowning in fast food grease and obesity. Just manage expectations; and based on what I’ve seen, many European countries respond this way to tourism from the USA because US tourists are entitled and do nothing to learn about or respect local customs.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Also, if some American tourists were respectful of other culture & did not feel superior to the habitants of other countries. You would be treated better. " Do you accept REAL MONEY?" Is common to hear. I have many American friends who pretend to be from somewhere else because of the embarrassment

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Rented an apartment in Vth arrondissement. Not dirty: every morning the street washers woke us up. They even have faucets in the curbs because they're such sticklers. There is lots to like; they invented the public pissoir, just for you. I mean, us

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I love Paris. It's an old city and has its own aroma. But I never found it to be awful. The people have always been friendly and helpful. It's an easy city to get around in. I didn't expect to like it as much as I do.

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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Blueberry piano just spreading stereotypes, and everybody hates a dumb and loud entitled american ...

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Angela Crowell
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

American here. I never wanted to go to Paris but my husband made me. I found it to be truly lovely. It was very clean and the people, ALL OF THEM, were VERY friendly and accommodating. Most people are if you treat them the same. And it did not smell. We were there in July. You want smell try New Orleans. Great city and great people but serious sanitation issues.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I disagree. I think you and the person who didn't like NYC just don't like big cities. I like big city life though, to me Paris hit all my expectations, loved it.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I loved it, amazing food, amazing culture, galleries, museums, even the obligatory Eiffel Tower climb was fun despite the long queues. I was polite and greeted people before asking for information, everyone was very nice and helpful. Yes there are rough areas like most big cities but I felt safe sticking to bright, non deserted streets

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I liked Paris. I didn't find it dirty at all. Yes, people can be kinda smelly there because they're terrified of deodorant or something, but that's not Paris, that's most of Europe. I did have once French dude be an a*****e to me on a train once because I was American. But everyone else I met was super friendly. I even asked a guy there once about that whole "French hating Americans" thing. He said that it's not that they hate all Americans (generally), it's that a lot of Americans are very xenophobic and myopic, and that's what they hate. Many American tourists are straight-up obnoxious when they travel out of the country. I've even shied away from Americans during international travel because I was so embarrassed to be associated with them because of their behavior. But the dude said that he realized that like the French, not all Americans are the same. He said he loves it when anyone, Americans or otherwise, travel the world and embrace the experience of different cultures.

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Allison Sullivan
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Everyone keeps saying that Paris smells. I was there for the first time this year and didn't get that at all. I was prepared for it to be dirty and smelly and was very pleasantly surprised.

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Invisible Man
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If American tourists don't like the 'distain of the French', maybe learn a few words of the language, turn your volume down and stop going on about how great the USA is. I absolutely love the place and go as often as I can. People seem to forget that if you travel abroad things will be different, Paris is not a theme park for your amusement, people live and work there and shockingly even bake bread.

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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Everyone knows the French hate our ignorant asses. City is older than our nation what do you expect exactly?

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Ron McGuire
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Was there last month, really enjoyed it, friendly people, good food and lovely to sit outside a Brasserie and take in the atmosphere, service was always very good and pleasant

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Paris is one of the city i will keep coming back. The architecture, city’s layout, the history, the culture, the food and people. every corner has a story of its own. Knowing what you are seeing is one way of enjoying travel.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'd still like to go...after Notre Dame is rebuilt and open. I'll go for the art, stained glass windows and patisseries.

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julien
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

" Don't forget smelly too" the dude was smelling his own reek ! that's why

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't agree. Paris was amazing! If you try to speak a little French, Parisians are much more open and friendly. Assuming everyone speaks English (and most do) is rude and very American.

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Diane Phillips-Herman
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I met some young Parisians working by the Eiffel Tower. They wanted to come to America so badly. Especially Hollywood. SURPRISE!!! It sucks there, too.

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Lynda Henry
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Not sure where you were in Paris, but this is definitely not true. And lots of Parisians speak English and wanted to try it out once we asked them something. Also...several shops I went in, especially Marin Montagut, had very friendly staff.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Depends on what time of the year you go. Avoid the summer; it's expensive and crowded with tourists.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I went to Paris and fell in love. I live in LA and I think hollywood is dirtier, or some parts of San Francisco. think everything major city will have some areas that are not picture perfect. The architecture in Paris is amazing. I walked around the city for hours one afternoon, alone. I never encountered any rude Parisians. Always very polite. I think it's how you approach people. Some people went above and beyond to help me. Will definitely be going back, plan on moving to Paris for a year.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Paris? We went last year just before pandemic and I thought it was beautiful, safe and clean. But then I live near San Francisco which has turned into a disgusting, filthy place to visit let alone live. However, I will visit London over Paris any day.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As a French person, I agree. Most of the parisians are like that with EVERYONE. Paris has good things to visit though, just be careful that you're aware that the Paris in the movies can be very very different. Like a lot of cities in the world, there's some good and bad.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As a French person, I absolutely agree. I always recommend other cities in France because we do have beautiful things to visit and we can be kind as well. Paris is very romanticized, that's why it gives people a shock. But it mostly sucks. But so does other cities in the world...

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It didn't smell when we were there in early September 2018. I knew a few basic French words: Bon Jour (Good Day), Sil vous plait (Please), Merci (Thank you), Aurevoir or A'voir for short (Goodbye - literally until we meet again). If you enter a store and say Bon Jour, say Merci when the store clerk rings up your purchase or helps you while shopping, and say A'voir as you leave the store you will be treated well. When at a restaurant, say Sil vous plait before you order or when asking for the check. If you want the waiter, do not say Garcon. I think what you should say is Monsuir. When in Italy and Spain I used the Italian and Spanish terms for those same words. All you need to learn are 4 or 5 words and smile and treat people with respect. Don't act superior as if they're your servant.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have visited paris 3 times. 3 very diff experiences. First as an 19 yr old on a contiki tour, so was protected from the real paris.2nd time was a solo visit and it was the french ppl that i found lacking in everything. Third visit, was after the terror attacks etc, paris seems hostile to ppl of color.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I find it interesting the reviewer was prepared for the "distain" of the French for Americans...it's legendary & been the subject of comedic jabs for years...Try Quebec next time. ❤🇨🇦

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I liked Paris, so much history to see. We were there during News Years and it was fun place to experience the new year.

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Jill DeMarco
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Whaaat??? Who are you people?? I agree with Bill Evs write up. I don't know kniw what the average person expects, but Paris is a world of its own. It's noisy and in some places it's dirty, but it's a wonderful experience.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Paris is like any large Western European or American city. Rent a car, and drive to the country. Everything's different there.

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Jill Bussey
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There was one Metro station which literally took my breath away. The smell was of some kind of chemical and was awful. Unfortunately, I had to travel through that station every day.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

To be fair, Parisiennes, are rude to anyone from anywhere except Paris, including other French people.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They are right though. I've been to most capital cities in Europe and Paris was definitely one of the dirtiest. Surely it was also because of the number of tourists. Also a lot of people trying to cheat you and selling crap. I went to Paris 5 times and was not impressed once, there are a few areas that are lovely, but most of the touristy places are really overhyped.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Disdain for Americans? As an American I like Parisians better already. Obviously very perceptive.

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Gerard Neaux
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Maybe the Parisians wouldn't have been so judgmental if you didn't stereotype them based on Emily in Paris.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If someone had come up to me when we were in Paris and said "I will sell you Paris for a dollar" I would have said "here's five bucks, go away and leave me alone." I was shocked that they CHARGE you for sitting inside a restaurant to eat. Not just for the food, but sitting down at a table to eat. One amazing restaurant, a local neighborhood restaurant, but that was it. And the hotel was considered a four star hotel, but we found out later that the star designation was related to how expensive it was, not how good it was.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Never ever go to 4-5 star hotels and to the restaurants what the hotel staff advice you to go. Rent an airbnb apartment (it would be cheaper), ask your host about his/her's favorite places, and all about what he/she can tell about the city. In this way, you have better chances to know the real city, instead of "tourist traps". And of course, use the internet wisely. It applies not just to Paris.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Loved Paris. Favorite thing to do was buy amazing food at a bakery, some wine and read a book by the river.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Paris is nice, just not as great as everybody says. You go there with really high expectations and nearly every european city is more beautiful. Just too much gold, too expensive and people in shops are not very nice.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Every place you go smells like urine and every surface is sticky.

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Hańka
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I love Paris and do not agree with those opinions. But I was a long time ago, maybe it has changed ...

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Guy MacGregor
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would say it's a different vision of politeness. American tourist, in particular, have a very singular vision of service and good manners. Cultural shock, but eh, that's why we travel ^^

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Kristan Bartel
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We found Paris to be a French NYC but with better historical sites

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Richard Head
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why don't Parisian's pick up after their Dogs. No wonder they wear too much perfume the city stinks!

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Monisa Montoya
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was most shocked at how the trains smelled so bad I had to keep my face covered-- they should consider plastic seat instead of upholstery which holds odors.

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Darren Sillato
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And rats, rats, so many bloody rats, eating out of bins, grew the size of small cats, and walking nonchalantly amongst people. Smelly, dirty and ratty. Ratatouille!

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Paris would be great, if it weren't for the Parisians. Similarly, NY would be great, if it weren't for Yorkers. And no, it doesn't add to the charm, Parisians bitch attitude adds charm.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I agree that there was an unpleasant smell to the city, and that Parisians definitely seem offended if there forced to speak in English, but the city itself is beautiful! Not the cleanest place, but beautiful none the less

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"Whether the city is disappointing or not it's totally up to the traveler. It's how you feel in the place and how you can transform those feelings, even if the most annoying thing happened, taking a deep breath and turning it all into an adventurous memory. Being open minded, patient, curious and respectful is the key," explained Irmante.

"Plus, going to lesser visited locations even in the countries that have crazy popular hot cities could help adventurers to expand their horizons and also spread the money that is coming in from tourism more evenly in the country. So maybe instead of going to Barcelona, choose Bilbao, and check out Zagreb rather than spending too much time in Dubrovnik. And instead of going to Switzerland, go for Kazakhstan, and instead of Thailand--why not to checkout Sri Lanka?"

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30 Overrated Places That Aren’t Worth A Visit, As Pointed Out By Folks Online Gjilli said:
Naples, I think the best way I could describe the city center is as a sticky mcdonalds table


Beans20202 said:
Agreed - my family almost got mugged in Naples in the middle of the day. I literally felt unsafe the entire time and we were only there for a day trip.

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30 Overrated Places That Aren’t Worth A Visit, As Pointed Out By Folks Online pittguzzo said:
Jacksonville Florida is a toilet.

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I lived there for a couple of years for work… couldn’t wait to get out. To me it’s because they don’t let the smaller areas incorporate and become their own towns. This allows two things: 1. The reign as the largest city by land area in US to remain. 2. The tax $s are shared throughout, so there are few “good” and “bad” areas, leaving everywhere being mediocre and uneventful

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Jacksonville is a desirable tourist location? This is news to me.

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30 Overrated Places That Aren’t Worth A Visit, As Pointed Out By Folks Online FourSeasons1972 said:
Cairo, what a dump. Poverty-people constantly begging or have something trying to sell, insane traffic-literally horrible traffic. Pollution.

NewSyrup3238 replied:
What really bothered me was how close the city was to the pyramids. I thought the pyramids were in the middle of nowhere but nope, just spitting distance from the city, quite surreal actually.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Cairo is tough for tourists for the reasons stated. But I live in Cairo and wouldn't live anywhere else. Once you get past the beggars and scammers, Cairenes are some of the kindest and most generous people in the world.

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30 Overrated Places That Aren’t Worth A Visit, As Pointed Out By Folks Online mediaogre said:
Fresno, CA has entered the chat

JOEYisROCKhard said:
laughs in Bakersfield


ThoughtCenter87 replied:

I think Fresno is just a larger version of Bakersfield lmao. Can't decide which is worse.

I think in terms of air pollution Bakersfield is worse, if you visit that town (or more realistically drive through it to get to LA) it smells like rotten eggs for a while until your nose gets used to the smell lol

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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why would anyone expect anything of Fresno or Bakersfield? Or go there if they didn't have to?

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30 Overrated Places That Aren’t Worth A Visit, As Pointed Out By Folks Online NotThatKindOfDrDr said:
It pains me to say this, but Dublin. My expectations were so high. That being said, I left my heart in Cork.

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Lived in dublin my whole life and I would say if you're going to live in Ireland permanently then yeah Dublin is the best shout as it has amenities, plenty of bars, restaurants, clubs etc but if you're going on a holiday to Ireland then donegal, Galway, Cork etc give you a much more "Irish" feel. Honestly I think the best way to do it would be to spend a few days in a few different counties, 3 days in Dublin will do then spread out, Ireland nice and small so it's very doable... Expensive though...

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I loved Dublin. There was a lot to see, and much of it was lovely. I was bowled over by how many places had baskets of flowers out, it made some of the streets seem like gardens. I'd go back in a shot.

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Lastly, we've asked Irmante what would she recommend as travel destinations, and she had this to say:

"I love Mexico City. For me, it's the most exciting place in the world for excellent food, fun bars, friendly locals and lots of culture. As a traveler, I found Beirut jam packed with culinary delights, beautiful architecture and charming hospitality, and Addis Ababa oozing intoxicating jazz and incredibly rich in history. And look, if going to destinations that are not necessarily the most popular is not your thing, there's nothing wrong with going to visit 'tourist traps'. It's all about how you do it."

You can follow Irmante's Instagram right here, and yes, she's more than willing to share where to get the best macchiatos in Addis Ababa, if you've got a craving and incidentally are traveling there.

#21

30 Overrated Places That Aren’t Worth A Visit, As Pointed Out By Folks Online Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. No offense to the folks that live there but I felt like everybody was angry, the traffic and parking was worse than Manhattan, and it had none of the redeeming qualities of NYC.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Traffic and parking is bad in a city? Goodness me. Philly has great museums, fantastic restaurants, lots of charm in the old part, a great quirky artistic side, and much of it is walkable. Love it as a tourist.

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30 Overrated Places That Aren’t Worth A Visit, As Pointed Out By Folks Online imatiredwoman said:
Athens. I couldn’t wait to go because I’m Greek. It’s filthy with polluted air and all of the famous ruins are right near city buildings, which are poorly constructed. The place feels very third world. The islands however, are fantastic!

FatManNuke69 said:
As much as I hate to say it, Athens was in pretty bad shape last I went (6 years ago and hasn't changed). The city has a very nice area called Plaka which is right beside the acropolis and is definitely a must if you go to mainland Greece and of course the general attractions like the Parthenon and the museum and of course the presidential building where if you're lucky enough, you'll catch a riot, so if you see people running... RUN.

But overall, outside of Plaka is a sh*thole. If you're going to Athens with the intent to feel like you've been transported into 500 BC then I've got bad news for you.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As a Greek I'll say that of course Athens is not the best to visit in Greece! It's the capital and for sure it's crazy noisy dirty etc! However it has so much history that it's a shame to skip it! I would recommend couple days in Athens and then enjoy one island!

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30 Overrated Places That Aren’t Worth A Visit, As Pointed Out By Folks Online Denver. Just a big, hot, expensive city out on the plains. All the cool mountain activities that people move to CO for are 2 hours of driving away unless you can afford to live in the west suburbs so nobody does nearly as much recreation as the would do living somewhere else. Traffic is worse than Chicago to boot.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I honestly just want to go to Denver to see The Blue Stallion and the airport.

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30 Overrated Places That Aren’t Worth A Visit, As Pointed Out By Folks Online Trenton, New Jersey.

I wasn't really visiting or expecting to go there, just passing through on an Amtrak ride. I awoke from a nap to the train just stopped in what looked like Raccoon City. Trash everywhere, most of the buildings looked abandoned. The sky was cloudy and literally green. Like, sickly yellow-green. And most eerily, I didn't see a single car driving on the street or anyone walking around outside on the barren sidewalks. All the stores and restaurants looked closed and empty. I was actually sort of gripped by fear for a second, in my post-nap haze. Just wanted the doors to shut and the train to pull out of there. Nobody was getting on the Amtrak in Trenton. I didn't even know if there was anybody in Trenton. As the train pulled away and we went through the center of the city, a rail bridge over the river caught my eye. A massive sign was plastered on the side that read "TRENTON MAKES, THE WORLD TAKES."

Surreal and overall grim experience.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If you're disapointed by Trenton, NJ, you must have never heard of it. That's like being disapointed by the cuisine in a dumpster.

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30 Overrated Places That Aren’t Worth A Visit, As Pointed Out By Folks Online Bigjay_37 said:
Manila, traffic was horrible and it was so dirty, nice buildings but the entire experience was stressful.


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Don't forget the slums and street children hounding you for money

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As someone from the Philippines, I wholeheartedly say Yes! Although Intramuros is a great place to walk, discover the Spanish colonial past of our country. It’s also a walking distance to the National museum of Fine Arts. But i agree with the traffic and how dirty it is..

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30 Overrated Places That Aren’t Worth A Visit, As Pointed Out By Folks Online sustainablecaptalist said:
Birmingham, UK. I had a very dreamy idea of it for some reason.

It's probably the shi**iest city in the UK.

Edit: People are asking me why I thought good about Birmingham. To them my only defense is that I'm from India. I didn't know much about Birmingham, name sounded very romantic to me!

Pumpkin-Bomb replied:
I don’t get how the only thing of interest in the second biggest city in the U.K., is a shopping centre. It’s such a grim grey place that’s not interesting at all.

Each other major UK city has its own unique qualities and landmarks that make it worth a visit. I’ve yet to see what that is in Birmingham.

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30 Overrated Places That Aren’t Worth A Visit, As Pointed Out By Folks Online Konstantynopolitancz said:
Frankfurt - just kinda seemed like a boring banking / politics city. It's entirely possible I just didn't go to the right parts though. The park by the river was nice.

Soleska replied:
That's what most Germans think about the city, too.

Every bigger city in Germany is some ugly mixture of old and modern. You should go for some smaller ones.

Only exception I can think of is Hamburg. Has its dirty parts, but overall nice city.

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Tim
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wait, you mean these cities are like, actual cities where people live and work? And not some kind of living postcard? What a rip off!

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30 Overrated Places That Aren’t Worth A Visit, As Pointed Out By Folks Online I always give the same answer, Venice.

Beautiful architecture and fascinating history... but dear god is it humid, the water is absolutely filthy, its so overcrowded, and there's gift stands in every corner selling the same cheap wares.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Venice is destroyed by tourists so i don't understand why people go there and complain when they are also the source of the problem( I'm not saying to not go at all but you cannot complain)

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30 Overrated Places That Aren’t Worth A Visit, As Pointed Out By Folks Online Bratislava. It was further worsened cause I was coming from somewhere amazing (Vienna) before and went to this dump of a city. Nightlife and drinking amazing there though, some cool oddities, but if I was to go back, I'd not spend more than half-day there.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I've been there and even though it's not something wow(i also came from Budapest which was impressive) i have to say that if you research where to go you will enjoy! Didn't regret it! Stayed 2 days and it was fun

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30 Overrated Places That Aren’t Worth A Visit, As Pointed Out By Folks Online Aussie-of-Skellige said:
Rome. From d**kheads trying to steal my suitcase off the train, from my bulls**t hotel room I was lied to about, to the a**face who didn’t want to accept my green card as legit. Amongst other things.

SWLondonLady said:
Came here for this. Not being able to look at any historical monuments without a selfie stick thrust into your face. And so many tourists.

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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I will not understand the tourists that go to touristic areas and expect no tourists

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