Sister-In-Law Can’t Meet Her Baby Nephew Because She’s Too Broke To Stick To All The Rules His Parents Have Set
Making the transition to parenthood and bringing home a newborn baby is challenging at the best of times. Amid the pandemic, it’s a whole other story. For many soon-to-be moms and dads, everything comes with new worries and questions, so making a plan can bring some calm to the chaos.
However, one couple took it a few steps too far. User No_Letter_1344, a 34-year-old mom who just had her son on Christmas Day, sparked a debate in a recent post on r/AITA after revealing some of the rules she and her husband have for guests that come to see their newborn baby.
Sure, keeping your child safe and insisting that friends and family must be “up to date on all vaccines” and won’t visit late at night is reasonable. But demanding to bring gifts and do household chores takes it to a whole new level.
The woman asked if she was in the wrong for not bending the rules for her sister-in-law, who “studies in a different part of the country” and rarely comes home. Read on for the full story and share your thoughts in the comments below!
A woman shared a list of strict rules she and her husband have for visiting their newborn baby on r/AITA
Image credits: Kristina Paukshtite (not the actual photo)
She asks if she’s in the wrong for refusing to bend them for her sister-in-law
Image credits: No_Letter_1344
No_Letter_1344’s story has amassed more than 13.1K upvotes and 6.2K comments in just a few days. The post started with a few decent requests but quickly turned sour when the author named her unreasonable demands. “Before you ever come, no matter how many times, you will be given a list of food or groceries to bring with you AND a chore for a list of your choosing,” the user wrote.
It seems that all this was a bit much for the sister-in-law, a 20-year-old college student, who couldn’t afford to buy the things this couple requested. She instead offered to clean the whole house just so she could visit the newborn baby, but the woman and her husband refused to bend the rules.
When other family members confronted them about the situation, saying they’re using their child as “a cash grab”, the husband told his parents that they were on a “time out and blocked them”. Members of the r/AITA subreddit quickly determined that the author was completely in the wrong for creating this list of demands and refusing to allow her family member to visit the baby.
Which rules for visitors really matter?
Needless to say, having a child is a major event in a person’s life, and being instantly surrounded by a flock of visitors might be stressful. While setting some rules might be beneficial, it’s important to know which of them truly matter.
Sarah Goldberg, a pregnancy massage therapist and childbirth educator, told ABC Everyday that who visits and when should come down to what’s best for the baby and mom. “When a baby is born, they [ideally] need undisturbed skin-to-skin contact for a minimum of 90 minutes; that’s when all the baby’s hormones and mother’s hormones are working really hard to bond and connect,” she explained.
“Your time in bed snuggling and cuddling your baby is imperative for a healthy postnatal recovery, so I implore rest, rest, rest—and rest does not happen when you have a thousand visitors.”
Some parents prohibit picking up their children or kissing them. Archana Koirala, a pediatric infectious diseases physician, said it’s important to understand that “babies need to be cuddled, they need to be touched, they need to be loved. So when you say, ‘No, you can’t do this, you can’t do that’, you’re actually providing restrictions potentially on a newborn’s development.”
Also, if your visitor is a smoker, you should have a conversation before allowing them to visit. Even if they won’t be smoking anywhere near the baby, the smoke can hang around in their clothes. Your best bet would be to ask them not to do it before the visit, request that they wash their hands, and ideally, ask them to consider changing their clothes to minimize the risk of exposure.
While it might be a difficult conversation to have with your friend or family member, you have to keep your baby safe and healthy—and that’s what setting rules should be all about.
Redditors unanimously agreed that the OP was acting like a jerk, here’s what they had to say
I was thinking this would be all about keeping the baby safe and healthy and then, boom! Give me free stuff and work for me? Go to hell.
Exactly. The first sound very reasonable especially now. But the rest.....
Load More Replies...
A few of those rules I can understand - no smokers, up to date on all vaccines, no advice (😂) - but pretty much all of the other ones range from stupid to cruel.
Yeah.. also strong perfume, maybe, but deodorant? You want your house to smell like a barn?
Load More Replies...
I have a toddler, but this is outrageous. I would never ever use my child as a cash grab. Everyone is free to come and see, ofc, when you arrive, you should wash your hands, but what are you saying, is way way to far... To be honest, i feel for the young kid...
my son is almost 3 yo and when ge was born we restricted the visits per week, too. we just needed time in-between to rest and be for ourselves. I think we had people over 2, max 3 times a week. everyone was understanding, even before the pandemic
Load More Replies...
hold up, if you're only allowed an hour for each visit, when would you have the time to even see the baby, between feeding the parents and doing chores? jfc
My thoughts exactly! After after all gifts inspected, groceries put away and chore done you can hold the baby as you walk through the house and through the front door, off with you peasant.
Load More Replies...
This was a huge mistake! You want a broke college student ON YOUR SIDE! you WILL need a baby sitter at some point and everyone around you after all these rules will say "oh you NEED me too be around your baby now??? $100 an hour is what I will charge to watch your baby!" Broke college kid might do it cheaper. Selfish, entitled and all around awful people and i feel sorry for the baby. These people should not be parents.
We do not negotiate with terrorist. The grandkid will seek out the family at age 18 because trust me that kid will be to go! The mom acts like she is the only woman to ever give birth!
Load More Replies...
So to be allowed to see the baby a person would have to buy mum and baby a gift each, buy you food and clean your house? My own kids hit my pocket enough I'm not paying to see anyone else's kid. If that means I don't see it then I will have less earache and more money. Bonus 👍
Right?? Wait till "cash mom" starts demanding certain holiday gifts or specific amounts of cash in a birthday card... No one is ever going to see this poor kid.
Load More Replies...
I would make sure to move far enough away from them that they couldn't even think of asking in the first place. But if I lived close by, it would still be a firm "No".
Load More Replies...
YTA. If i even have to explain why YTA, you shouldn't be breeding, you shouldn't have friends, and you shouldn't interact with any other human again, because you and your partner are self-centered, selfish, money grabbing, use-your-child-as-a-p**n dictators who wants everything their way, and won't even be reasonable for a family member who WANTS to interact with your spawn. I'm surprised anyone would want to buy you a gift from your pre-approved list (this point alone, get a life), I'm surprised anyone would want to visit your child at all, and I'd be damn surprised if any of your friends or family wanted anything to do with you and your child in the future. If this is the birth, can you imagine how insane and demanding you will be for the kids birthday? You need to check yourself, because you seem to think you're Beyonce or some other "me me ME!" celebrity. You desperately need to GTF OVER YOURSELF, apologize to all friends and family, and buy your sister a VERY nice gift. Prick.
I agree with 100% of this. Especially the first part about not having kids when you're basically a POS who thinks they're better than everyone and entitled to being treated like royalty just because they pushed out a baby... something women have been doing since the beginning of humanity.... why do some new mothers think they're so fucken special just because they had a kid. Like.. wtf? Also, I know I have my own interpretation of your words but I think we agree on a lot of things. lol.
Load More Replies...
With that I mean why do they think they deserve special treatment just because they had a baby. It goes both ways
Load More Replies...
This situation is so messed up, I genuinly can't believe it is real. Maybe some troll posted this on the reddit sub just for the reactions
That's exactly it. Reddit is full of crap like this, but on the AITA sub, it's against the rules to call people out on it- even on the ones that are glaringly obvious. Most subs don't have that rule, thankfully!
Load More Replies...
I was absolutely sure people come to see a newborn just to show respect to their parents. I mean, unless you are the parents, newborns are pretty boring. What do even do with them? Hold them? Tell their mom how adorable they are even if you don't find them adorable at all? Not everybody would be willing to see your baby for free, let alone with gifts and chores.
I don't want to hold the newborn. That's too much responsibility. What if I drop them? Nooooo thank you.
Load More Replies...
You can set any rules you like in your own home. I can choose to stay away from your home.
What is this? Newmomzilla? Cashgrab, greedy, and definitely entitled for not realizing it's totally a*****e move. I don't like to visit newborns, I understand new parents have some restrictions, especially those that are related to health reason. I am tired of reading post AITA while the answer is obviously no. But this, definite and utter a*****e.
I just want to let you know that if you visit me you should bring cheese !
Load More Replies...
You think it's bad now think how oppressive it's gonna be for that kid later. You want friends to come over you gotta have your friends do cleaning for 45m out of the hour they are here. This is the family type that raise school shooters
To be fair, how much time do you need with a newborn baby?
Load More Replies...
Yet more people thinking they're special for having a kid. News flash - YOU'RE NOT SPECIAL. You aren't entitled to anything. If you want to impose rules that concern your baby's safety, absolutely understandable. If you want to set visiting/call times for your own sanity/routine, totally get that. You get a gift, takeaway, helping hand round the house ONLY if someone offers first. You don't automatically deserve it. Ludicrous! And the poor baby might end up missing out on an auntie because of your selfish delusions of grandeur.
When I visited my best friend after the birth of her children, I volunteered to help with the baby and the housework. That's what family/friends do. She is in for a very rude awakening.
Load More Replies...
Was there no baby shower? No care packages and gifts sent to the hospital after birth? What's the bet there was a reveal at 3 months with demands of a gift and expectations all along the pregnancy journey too. How disgustingly selfish to keep an Aunt from their new niece or nephew because they have no money to spoil the new mum with. I feel sick that there are people like this walking among us.
Gifts from a baby shower are irrelevant. Rich or poor, ya don't make people buy a gift. Part of childcare is showing them love. Thanks to your rules, the child won't know family love. He will sit in his room, alone, no friends. He'll will grow into a cold, emotionless loner. What will that child think of his parents when he discovers he was used for their benefit? You can't buy love... don't turn your child into a freak like you.
Load More Replies...
YTA. This is probably the most ridiculous and self entitled garbage I have ever seen. You're charging your family to see your child? All I can say is wow.
I once read a story about another woman who had a baby on Christmas Day. Wise men from the East came to bring him gold, frankincense, and myrrh. Does this woman think that story is about HER baby? Wow.
I don't know who needs to hear this, but: your child is not, and never will be, the messiah. Most people don't even give a s**t that you reproduced, and our smiles are just us trying to be polite while we try to find an exit. Thank you for coming to my TedTalk.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 i have no words for this one.
Load More Replies...
And this is how entitled new parents find out the world doesn't revolve around them. This is a very detailed list how to lose family and friends, or at minimum stain relationships. Let's hope in the future your child will repay you exactly same way. Making bank because you decided to o reproduce and create a piggy bank. I'm sorry for your kid and families. Simple Don't visit us due to pandemic, health and safety concerns of baby would have been sufficient. In the end of the day the child only needs one competent caretaker rest aunts/uncles/grandparents are good to have, but you clearly didn't want anyone to be in your life. Truly hope when you need family support financial or other ways, they will produce a similar list. Terrible people
As if it's not bad enough, the husband "puts HIS family on a time out and blocks them" ?!?!?!?! You'll be lucky if any of your family ever speaks to you again. I would have NO trouble writing you off. And don't come crying when you desperately need a babysitter.
Exactly! Put me on a time out or block me, it will be the last time you hear from this grandmother. They wonder why his sister isn’t answering, these people are beyond a*****es.
Load More Replies...
When my daughter was born we had one rule. If Mum and / or baby are getting tired then that’s the end of playtime for family and friends. Anyone who wanted to visit always rang, they are considerate like that, most came with something nice for Mum to eat, they are considerate like that, no one smoked, they are considerate like that, no one arrived at odd or crazy times, they are considerate like that, are you detecting a theme here? Your visitors are a reflection of you, treat each other with a bit of respect and it’ll come back to you without any requirements for rules galore. PS The best gifts we ever got were an unexpected beautiful Lancashire hotpot that a neighbour made and my parents cleaning a chaotic kitchen when we were out for a walk with our daughter, the relief of a clean and tidy kitchen and tea being made was a joy. It’s the simple stuff that takes the weight off a young pair of parents! If you could gift sleep then that may gazump a hotpot though 😀
So delightfully put. My love for novels set in England made this even more fun.
Load More Replies...
YTA. WARNING ⚠️ YOU'RE ABOUT TO BE ROASTED. Have you ever been broke and in college? Probably! And yet you aren't letting your own sister in law see her nephew after such a long time. Asshholes!!!! I'm burning up how you can be so shitty to family. And demanding gifts, chores,AND money? I feel so bad for your kid who you are using as a museum attraction! F**k you.
Looks like the poor baby just lost half his extended family because mom and dad are losers. They are already damaging the kids life and he has only just been born
you think you king and queen of boobshebaa?? you want tribute? you nucking futs or what? even it that was my grandkid i will not visit you or even want to see the kid. who the hell do you think you are???! bahaha..
This is not normal behavior. Do people like this really exist? The audacity...
She keeps up with that attitude and she'll be paying for someone to babysit.
He blocked and put his own family in a timeout after they confronted him, lol wtf? It's only after her family and their friends also tell them they're wrong, that they finally try to contact her. I guess the opinions of his family doesn't mean much. I feel so bad for that girl. I know I would cry if my brother treated me like that. I would avoid this couple at all costs.
When the in-laws got out of "time-out" I hope they informed their DA of a son that they spent the time at the lawyer's changing the will. You get nothing!!!
Load More Replies...
My son was born on Dec 31st and literally none of these rules were even a thought of mine. If she feels she needs to outline these rules for friends and family she either 1) has shitty friends and needs better friends or 2) she is a control freak and will destroy her child's life and concept of what is acceptable in the world.
YTA. To be clear, it's okay to give a link to your gift registry. It would be a little weird to arrange your own "meal train," since ideally your friends and relatives would set that up on their own (not that you gave them a chance, because you demanded the food/meals in October when the baby didn't come until Christmas). A chore list is most appropriate to give to someone like your mom who has offered to come stay with you for two weeks specifically to help with the baby and chores. A list of rules is all right, although these are on the extreme side (and is there a typo in your visiting hours? No visits from 7:30pm-10:00pm, but midnight is fine?). The problem comes to a head when you combine all these ideas. I understand the impulse to plan ahead and try to keep everything under control when you're expecting a baby. It's a crazy time. But you went overboard. The worst part was how you and your husband reacted when someone couldn't meet the rules. Blocked his family...
and put them in timeout? That is so extreme, considering the "offense"!
Load More Replies...
The sister-in-law should have told them both to f**k off!! Their kid is going to be a nightmare being raised by assholes! Seriously what is wrong with people!?
Some guy actually made a baby with this crazy girl... wonder what the rules are for sex???
Gifts, lights out, missionary only, and my bra stays on!
Load More Replies...
Up until the entitled "give me s**t and do my chores for me" i was on board. Protect the baby, 100%. Let mama rest, 100%. Feed into entitled b******t? NO!
Buy their groceries for them and choose from a list of chores? WTH? I hope nobody showed up. Maybe they'd get a message. I feel so sorry for that child and how they will be raised. It might not go well.
Wow, what the A-hole. Must buy a gift or clean my house? F you. That poor freaking kid.
Nope, they want a gift AND the visitor to pull a cleaning chore as well. Which makes the jerk level even higher.
Load More Replies...
YTA, if you don't want visitors then don't have visitors but expecting gifts bc you had a kids is super shitty, clean your own house, there are two parents in the house, it's not your guests responsibility to do your chores, the sad thing is most people would be offering these things to help out, but not when it's demanded.
You're charging people for bonding with your newborn? Do you care about your newborn? If something happened to you and the father do you want them to have no one else in their life? You want that kid to have people they can depend on and bond with that aren't you. It is best for the kid. This is selfish on many many levels. Not to mention, I come from a giant family where newborns were literally passed around between a giant group of aunts, cousins, kids, guarantee they all either smoked, wore perfume, they all wore deodorant, I'm all for caution, but this is just ridiculous.
This lady is crazy. If i was her family i would say good luck to your husband and you on raising a baby without family support.
At this time of the pandemic, I can completely understand about having a list, but the list is egregious. Asking for a gift card? groceries? Couldn't even bend the rule for the college student sister? Really? Wow. Heck, if someone volunteered in cleaning my house - forget those dang rules! I would be more than a happy child in a candy store. I don't blame the sister's avoidance. That said, I couldn't agree more with everyone - they're a couple of self-entitled cash grabbers.
Oh that poor child!! S/he will grow up "knowing" they are special and shouldn't have to adhere to the rules of decency because...well, mom and dad say so. Yes, it is okay to set realistic and intelligent rules such as being vaccinated and not coming if you are feeling sick or even near-sick. It's okay if you do not want people picking up the baby without permission. I can even let you set time limits for visits IF you are polite about it and flexible. However, once you begin demanding gifts, chores and donations...yeah you are an entitled a*****e. The SIL is a broke student, why should she be expected to bring an expensive gift? (You know the "want" list is for expensive things) This is the very definition of ENTITLEMENT.
YTA. You obviously think you're royalty. The entitlement is disgusting. This sounds like normal behavior for you, so I'm surprised anyone wants to come visit you. Poor kid!
If it was me I just would never see the child. That's ridiculous to take advantage of your family like that.
All this amounts to is two selfish people using a baby to punish their families for perceived slights. "Give Me gifts, not just the baby, food and labor". Please. I pity that poor child being raised by these two. Just wait until they wise up and want family to babysit. I truly hope the family gives them a list of demands.
This lady is nuts. She wants a maid and free gift cards because she had a baby. Even Mary didn't get this when she gave birth to jesus
Such assholes. I was fine even down to the social media part, but the gifts and chores? F OFF!!!
Huge overentitled AH! It's a baby not a tourist attraction for you to profit off of.
The first part was pretty reasonable. That was until she mentioned about the gifts, bringing food and doing chores etc. I think she's being extremely entitled, so rude.
YTA, what is you baby performing miracles to visitors? Does he have 2 heads? What’s so amazing your charging people to visit? No one is obligated to give you gifts. Wow this is so ridiculous. Reality check badly needed here.
I get "no perfume," (once had an allergic reaction to an ex's cheap stuff) but no *deodorant*? 🤨 Then it all went down to hell from there. Although I will point out this is one of the rare "AITA" articles where the OP actually *IS* the AH instead of a nice person having to put their foot down harder than they expected.
No, the deodorant one isn't unreasonable either. It's a fragrance thing. People have allergic reactions to deodorant contents too sometimes. I do - coumarin in particular.
Load More Replies...
Whew, I was glad at the end when other people started saying yta. I was afraid for a minute
A psycho thing I noticed: When it was the in-laws opinions being given, the husband put his family in timeout and blocked them. But then when this oh so special wife/mother/jailers family started calling her out, that's when they reached out to his sister. I'm getting the feeling this man's family had had to put up with a lot from this woman and her delusions of grandeur. She seems to think she's the holy grail of women and the only mother to ever matter on this planet. I get the vaccines/smoking/time constraints (but even the time constraints where a little iffy) but to DEMAND a gift along with free labor?What the actual F*ck? She'll be divorced within 5 years and she'll make that man's life a living hell, along with that poor, poor child. Unless the husband thinks he's such a great catch too, that they came together and brought in the new messiah. Geez. Talk about wackos. I hope both of your families are too busy when you really need them since it's clear you want no love from them.
The family should get together and make a plan and write down all the requests and demands made by the parents. For future reference so that the child when grown and can understand why no family was around. Selfish, nasty, entitled, greedy, disgusting beings. That child will be disgusted at the parents. Careful cause you reap what you sow. Family take a pass and move on, block them for good and keep that written book handy. Wish them best of luck and move on.
These are the kinds of relatives and friends I've already kicked out of my life. I have nieces and nephews I've never met because my sister was a selfish c*** and started threatening to withhold visitation from people unless they let her have her way and bought HER stuff. Not stuff for the babies or necessities, no, just useless crap she wanted that she could buy for her bloody self at any time. I just never bothered with her or her kids, never had a bond with them or anything. I'm unbothered by that as I know that I dodged that emotionally compromised atom bomb known as their mother. Emotionally distancing yourself from troublesome people does wonders for one's psyche.
If these new parents were very young I could blame this terrible boorishness on their immaturity. As it stands, they're greedy pigs. They're not surrounding their baby with love but with simmering resentments. No smokers? How about wash your hands and face and no smoking during the visit. No pictures? So no treasured memories. I agree with no posting on social media but for themselves. What a shame. Food or groceries and chores. They were very very smart to add those. People naturally do this out of love. No one would do anything for them without being forced. Finally, not bending their inviolable rules. But they made the rules! The college student/SIL/new aunt sounds as if she was so very excited to see the new baby, and heartbroken to be denied, particularly for such a petty reason. These new parents should get on their knees and kiss her feet and those of the others they've treated like cash cows. This is the time for people to bond with the baby. They've ruined that.
Nobody wants to see that baby! They need to give me a gift card if they want me to come over !
I can find better words for you than a*****e. You'll lose your friends and family then cry about how no one cares and loves you and whaaaa!!
Gosh that poor kid will never have any friends and you can forget about the pta moms welcoming your entitled attitude. When i had both my daughters 20 and 26 years ago. Something would have never ever crossed my mind would have been yo ask my friends and family to pay yo see them or do my dirty work.....get off your butt's how the heck will your lazy, self righteous entitled attitudes,feel when your child grows to be the same way towards you? What a couple of clueless parents...missing the whole joy of this new life by throwing such a disturbing demand upon those that just want to bond with the new member of the family....i hope anyone of your family and friends charge you from this point forward just to talk to them and surely hope they never hand you anything for free again. My youngest is 20 and although she does pretty good with income would have most likely lost it and went anyway to see her niece or nephew ...aunties are special people that are close to siblings kids😔😤👎
YTA means YTA and we won't explain why. Mostly because you already know. If I got that list I would never speak to the sender again.
This HAS to be a JOKE? Are there really people in this world who think this is ok? They must be trolling?
You are SUCH the AH, and I don't criticize many, since I'm also flawed. Children are a blessing, not a power play. When will your selfishness end? At 1? 5? Ever? Think about it.
Is the baby named Jesus?! I'm sure I have some frankincense, myrrh and gold lying around somewhere!!
According to her comments it is real.
Load More Replies...
How horrific! Many people will volunteer to help with chores & some will bring food (of their choosing, not yours), but it's never OK to mandate it! And gifts, by definition, should never, ever, EVER be required! That's not a gift, that's an admission fee & a hefty one at that!
I can understand vaccines and no smoking but this is too much. I wonder if another family member who recently has child would impose these rules on you, how would you feel? Next step will be asking visitors to contribute for your child's college fund. If I was related to you guys I would tell you where to go. Have a nice life.
These people are obnoxious and so full of themselves they will probably raise a horrid entitled little human.
Nope nope and HELL NO! Poor baby.... And this is why some ppl should NEVER be parents. Keep this s**t up and your child will end up not having anything to do with you 2 when they get older, especially when they eventually find out that you were using em for a money scam when they were a baby. They will learn to NOT trust mom and dad. I wonder if DSS would consider that as baby trafficking, using the poor baby for money scam and freeloading on friends(IF you 2 actually have any that is, and when you do actually need your family for something serious they gonna basically tell you to GFYS) BUT I guess you didn't think about the long term effects this would have on your child, your parents, your family or even your jobs. Quit acting like a typical Karen and grow the HELL up, you are a MEGA a*****e! BOTH of you!
These new parents are ridiculous. Health concerns are one thing, the gifts and chores are another. They're going to wonder why nobody visits their baby!!
I would have NO problem not ever seeing either of them or the baby EVER. I'd go so far as to avoid any holidays or any special occasion. I'd block them on all social media. I just would. I don't need them.
I feel sorry for the baby. Poor child will have one helluva upbringing. Hopefully he won't grow up to be selfish and greedy like his parents. With all the crap going on, family is the one thing we can anchor to and the parents are cutting those support chains early. Smh
I see this way different. What this couple is actually saying is that they don’t want Any Visits. At all. So I think they came up with all this wacky mess to keep people away. How easy is it to say’ Look, we really don’t want you to come. Please don’t ask ‘ but when you make unreasonable demands and make people Not want to come- mission accomplished
I understood about smoking even though I have nothing against smoking. Also understood vaccines and not coming if you feel sick and even the no calls or visit times. However...expecting people to bring groceries and clean everytime is beyond ridiculous! Who do you think you are?!! No wonder she isn't responding back! I wouldn't either! To have someone who is family and wants to see the baby, you should be welcoming them with opened arms! She is missing out on her nephew because of your SELFISHNESS! YOU ARE THE REASON YOUR SON WILL NOT HAVE MUCH FAMILY OR POSSIBLY FRIENDS GROWING UP! SHAME ON YOU BOTH!! Karma will get you both! Poor baby for having selfish people like you for parents!
Taking things a bit too far, me thinks. There are other ways to set limits and ask for help that don't alienate your entire family and all your friends. Poor kid. Parents are nuts.
These rules are beyond ridiculous and the fact that she doesn't see that is ridiculous. They want people to pay them to see their baby. I love babies, but I am going to be honest and say that they don't do much. So why is their child so incredibly important to warrant this type of behavior? I feel sorry for this baby. He's going to need to give his parents a gift card in order to be read a bedtime story or have to arrange takeout to be picked up from daycare.
Her comments on that thread are baffling as well. This is the kind of person you run for the hills from.
This started out as understandable, but insisting on gifts and people doing chores? Seriously?
I understand some like no smoking, up to date on vaccines, don’t come if you are sick. Some are confusing but I could swallow it down with difficulty, like No is no (give an explanation so the kids learn) and no perfume or deodorant (is someone allergic?) and you can only visit twice a week per person (ummm… ok?) and no visiting from 7 pm to 10 pm (some religious reason?). But the rest were downright idiotic and rude and entitled. You pay, you do chores, you follow all the rules, you be our servant, and in return you can see the child.
YTA! And where do you get your entitlement??? When did you ever pay an admission fee, buy mom and baby gift, buy food for mom/family, AND do a chore or more to see a family members/friends (do you have any? I'd be completely surprised unless they're like you) baby? Where are you from? You need a life lesson to be taken down a peg or two.
Hope this entitled POS isn't too surprised when no one visits. Even if I was wealthy, I'd absolutely refuse to visit, whether it was friend or family. If someone offers to do chores, or brings an gift, nice. But demanding it? I feel sorry for this kid. How many potential friends of his is she gonna run off with her behavior?
...........and then putting family in "time out" because they are supportive of wacko parents rules. WOW!
Wouldn't it just be easier to tell people "we don't want any visitors"?
These parents are either going to crack entirely or end up totally and completely without support, which if it's their first kid they're going to need a lot of. Also, why are you managing others emotions around your new baby and fearing cries of favoritism? That's not your job. You don't need gifts and free domestic help, you both need therapy. Badly.
YTA -few of those are fine, but the rest, chores and money is stupid. Also the in-laws put them in timeout. 🤣
Who even are these people... like they really exist? I'd pay money to gawk at them in a freak show.
Who even are these people... like do they actually exist? I'd pay money to gawk at them at a freak show.
This is crazy! Lol you want people to but you a gift and do chores? You know that they are there to see your child and not you right. Sounds like you guys are going to be very lonely 🙁
Ridiculous and entitled are just a few that fit these so called parents. Shame on you for turning a joyous event into a money mongering tool using your child. Your family and friends are wise to steer clear of you. I feel sorry for your child. Please let this be your only child. Children are a blessing, not a free pass to extort family.
These people are terrible people. Even the guy,his own sister ..damn, terrible ppl. I agree with the sister. She shouldn't mind them.she should make them realise their mistake
You know what pisses me off is the fact that the family was told time-out and was blocked not only is that childish but shows what kind of parents they'll be I'm sooo sorry for that child
If this were posted in any other place beside "AITA," I'd say this is a good way (albeit passive aggressive) to tell people who want to visit that you don't want visitors. I hope the family saves the list of demands to send the child when he gets older. Maybe it will explain to him why he has no family.
Funniest part to me isn't the fact that they have these rules. I can see plenty of parents thinking this illogically. What I'm amused by is taking the time to post publicly and actually ask the question "am I the jerk". Of course you are. Anybody who supports your thought process should be on heavy medication. Bad enough to be a jerk. Now it appears they don't have the self awareness to understand that they're being one. I'd respect them more if they acknowledged it and said "my rules, my way"
Those rules scream tone deaf and entitled like you wouldn't believe. Some people just have zero class or shame. They are 100% using that baby as a cash-grab. It was their decision to have a baby and now they expect society to pay them for viewing privileges. Shocking!
This would not go down well in Ireland!! Here, we have the mindset of 'it takes a village to raise a baby' everyone jumps to help ANYWAY, no demands or gift lists needed. This couple would be left on their own after everyone received their ' lists ' of conditions to see the baby! I feel sorry for their child, having greedy materialistic parents who value gifts and things over meaningful, genuine relationship's :(
Fr! Definitely @$s holes bring us takeout and gift cards and clean? What the absolute F∆€K?! You successfully banging is no excuse to turn family into indentured servants. They can't stay for more than an hour but they'd be cleaning the whole time. There's two of them and newborns sleep constantly. Bums. Your baby is not a commodity and you are so incredibly selfish for denying that child love because of limited money. I get vaccinations, limited interactions, etc. There's a panny on. But it's not about that at all. This is just gross.
You can "bend the rules" for one and JUST NOT TELL ANYONE. Be bigger than that.
1, 3, 5, 6, and 7 are fine and perfect. A few others can be acceptable if you have overbearing family that want to move in. Charging to see your kid? The zoo is more fun...
OH NO! SHE GAVE BIRTH ON CHRISTMAS DAY! SHE THINKS SHE'S THE VIRGIN MARY. They sent out their list of Requirements in October. What do we bet she was induced or had a preselected cesarean section so her SON would be born on that day?
Interesting thought but I don't think the doctor and hospital would schedule a birth on a holiday.
Load More Replies...
I was on her side until the forced gift giving and chores. My son was a micropreemie so some of these rules I truly understand like not too many visits. Our NICU suggested no visit from anyone for the first month. Bringing food to new parents is always appreciated but not required. I don't understand why they wouldn't let the baby's aunt to even meet him.
What a crazy b***h 🤣 I hope you end up divorced and alienated from everyone--kid included!
The rest of the family must have been desperate to see that baby if they actually came through on these stupid ass requests.
Sheesh, MY sister only asked me to get my flu vaccination shot first! (This was pre COVID).
I can understand not many visits; and the health stuff. But even so a vaccine doesn't prevent Covid from getting into the home ... maybe tests before visiting would be an idea? But telling someone they can't wear deodorant! And expecting them to do chores for you and buy you takeout groceries and gifts so they're allowed to see your baby. Nope. What kind of people do that? YTA YTA YTA i would personally never speak to you again - not the mind of people I'd want in my life! And putting his family on a time out? Haha! No you'd never hear from me again. Self entitled egomaniacs
the first 4, maybe 5, made sense. but other than that, really?
you and your child will be very lonely millennial......can this generation get any more moronic
Did you know that in the US, Christmas Day is the rarest birthday? The next least common are January 1, December 24, July 4, and January 2. September 9 is the most common birthday.
Have you and your husband lost your minds? I feel so sorry for your child.
LMAO ......mom, mom listen mom, your in a time out. You can't come over, you cannot see your grandkids and even though you raised me, loved me and taught me to be a responsible adult your advice now is unwanted. If you want to get off time out, apologize for giving us advice, go get a prime rib with asparagus and bring your cleaning supplies. Yes we have cleaning supplies mom, but your the one who must clean our home in order to visit. The least you can do is bring your own cleaning supplies. And please mom don't bring anything that is generic. Top self stuff or just stay home. Now when you get here I'd like for you to get started on the bathroom and dad needs to get started on the garage. When you are done cleaning and cooking that prime rib your bringing maybe we can just sit and visit for a while. If it's not too late when your done with your chores and cooking that is. Now the baby goes to bed at 8 and I would prefer you not get here untill 6:30 or 7 after all we need our alone
both parents are def entitled... and AH... fair to ask for a few of the those things... but VISITS do not automatically get a chore done and gifts... If I am visiting and I have gifted already I AM NOT GIFTING AGAIN... and I will HELP with something, but expecting it? NOPE... hire a maid
I reread this list. I think this family is delusional....their new baby is not a member of British royalty.
Is thus for real? Who does this? Seriously gifts, chores this is psycho 101. I have neverchearscof anything so ludicrous in my life. And there arev2cof them that crazy? That poor child doesn't stand a chance. You can't see the baby unless you fork up a gift? Who seriously does that?
...the same greedy lunatics that charge wedding guests for their food! They are obviously insane, entitled, and DISGUSTING! They should be ashamed to admit they asked for gifts! Both her AND the baby! Dear Lort!
Load More Replies...
People like that should be barred from having children. It's an obvious messiah complex- they believe their kid is somehow Devine...this is why I won't have kids. So I don't turn into despicable people like them.
Wow! If I was a friend or family member of their’s I’d cut ties pretty quick! Sounds like you’re trying to open a zoo but with a tiny human. Wrong on so many levels.
I don't blame the sister for not responding. It was so cruel to turn her away like that. This couple was probably acting like this before the baby was born which probably explains why nobody held a baby shower for them.
Ehh is George Clooney the baby daddy or what? Having people in your lives who want to visit your baby is a gift in itself... asking for gifts and chores and groceries, its so cheap it's cringe. And your sister in law offered to clean your whole house to see her new baby nephew, that's love.. love is supposed to be free. You guys are a joke!
Poor kid to have parents like that. Have to give a gift = broke as s**t parents. You have to clean there house = Lazy as f**k parents. Good luck when the child turns 1 and no one shows up for the birthday party if you even let your child have one Just wait till the kid turns 2 taring up your house. I would love to see that. Your burning Bridges with all your rules.
Most of the list is honestly reasonable. In the modern era of Covid. With the exceptions of the cash/gift card mandatory gifts, while having to bring food and due chores. This is just a baby. It isn't heir to kingdom that requires tithes. From the local serfs.
Why is it people today act like they're the first and only ones to have a baby? What the hell did you think women did for the last 400,000 years? The couple is nothing but greedy, entitled AH. If I got a list of rules like that, and hey you idiots, not being vaccinated or feeling sick stay home is common sense. But bring you a gift and the baby, and bring some food and do a chore? My response would be to kiss my a*s. And no I wouldn't come see the baby at any time. Sorry that baby will grow up to be as big a jerks as his parents.
Holy s**t... I've met psycho assholes in my life, but those two are on a next level. No smokers... LOL, like anyone would smoke next to the baby. All vaccines done -> what about people who can't be vaccinated for health reasons? Ableist b******t. Chores done, food, AND gifts??? Don't you want a massage and a personal chef on top of that? Who the hell do you think you are??? Complete AH and I really do feel sorry for the baby... are those two even mentally capable of raising one?
YTA & a big one! Why can’t your husband go shopping etc?! I wouldn’t visit you!! I feel sorry for your friends & family!! No way would I pay!! I’d probably bring a gift but what I want to buy!! I’d also wear deodorant!! Are you gonna sniff my armpits?? Your kid is gonna have a hard time being in the real world!! Your supposed to get your kid used to smells etc! You sound psycho!! The vaccines I can see but the rest, you are NUTS!! Please don’t have any more kids!! You are just being greedy!! Good luck with anyone visiting you!! BTW, does this apply to grandparents???
I spect this will be a very lonely child, parents too prob'ly. Only two visits per week? Can't make bank that way. So, I gotta book this visit a week in advance, bring food and dress to clean your bathroom. Let me get a slot after 10:30 pm second Tuesday of next week. Thanks. Whats the price of admission and should it be gold or murr, fresh outta frankensence.
You gave birth, so to visit, the family must worship you as a procreation Goddess - laying "approved" [entitled much?] gifts - and gift cards, at your feet, they must bring [and pay for] your groceries, they must do your chores, they must also bring you "the takeout you like" so they can have the delight of visiting for an hour to bow before your holy vagina, and welcome your tiny poop factory to the world. YTA.
Adhearing to rules about times, advance notice, vaccines, health issues, no photos on social media, not picking up the baby without the parents' consent - that is perfectly, 100% acceptable. Everything else on the list tells me your baby will become a spoiled little monster.
Load More Replies...
YTA. If you want to limit visits, then simply LIMIT VISITS. Your a damn adult. If you don't want someone to visit, simply tell them no, this isn't the best time or that you're not ready for visitors or just, I don't know, no thank you. THAT is how a mature adult takes control and limits visitation. What YOU did was exploit your child, family, and friends for your own ridiculous, entitled selfish reasons. Some of these AITA you can tell they really were honestly an inadvertent a**hole but not this one. You knew you were being an a**hole. You said so when you declared the reason for this pathetic list was to limit visits. You literally told us you knew this was so ridiculous that people would actually stay away. 100% YTA.
She's basically making her baby a side show that you have to pay and work for to see like wtf. I had strict rules for anyone visiting my baby but they were all health related rules because he was born a preemie and stayed in the nicu for a month, i can't imagine demanding gifts and housework that's just greedy af.
That's one of the craziest things I've ever heard! The new parents are going to find that no one in their family wants anything to do with them anymore. You don't get to insist on a gifts as payment for meeting your baby.
Is that baby a celebrity, because that's a hell of a cost to see it! I hope they're begging people to come visit when everyone ditches them in abject disgust.
Wtf is wrong with people today.. a chore list haha these people are of a different breed or something.. this literally blows my mind.. humans are evolving and not for the good.. this story can't be real and if it is that poor kid has no idea what life has in store for him/her.. like what in the actual **** is wrong with these people
From one mom to another, What are you thinking? I understand the vaccines, the smoking and perfume and maybe some deodorants but good lord are you both disabled that you would ask people who visit to clean? I am a mom of five, raised 9 total with my 4 step children and never did we ask for ppl to bring food gifts or to clean our house we did it ourselves. A baby is a joyous addition to any family never turn it into a circus unless you want to lose every friend and family member you have
Not only are YTA but so is your husband for going a long with this ridiculous c**p! Putting his family in time out I mean what the hell! Grow some balls and do the right thing. I understand how exhausting it is to have a new baby. I have 6 children and I have never thougt of making my family and friends "pay" to visit my children. WTH is wrong with both of you!
They don't have the guts to say we don't want anyone to come over instead they made a ridiculous set of rules. I'd have been a passive aggressive a*****e back, especially at 20. Plus made my entire family aware of the s**t she's pulling, and why I cut them out of my life.
Is this real? Sometimes it's hard to believe these are real. I'm undecided. If your friends decided to arrange a meal train for you that's one thing, but you don't get to demand it yourself (plus maid services) as the price of admission to see your "eighth wonder of the world" baby. So absurd it's quite funny!
What is shame that this beautiful baby and that guys sister don’t get to enjoy the beautiful relationship of Aunt and Nephew or niece. Those parents should be truly ashamed no wonder his sister is not responding. My heart breaks for his sister and that child.
Absolutely insane set of rules. This is not about keeping the baby safe….this is a cash grab and a total control situation. Awful mom. Poor kid! I actually knew someone kinda like this years ago…we did NOT become friends. Her poor little guy was jerked around and slapped every time he did something to displease her…he was TWO! 😖
Enjoy your kid all by yourselves!!! No rules, other than baby safety are important. These parents are beyond annoying and deserve NOTHING! How spoiled, self centered and entitled can parents be? Not really a question!
I had two kids, who are now in their late 30s and early 40s. In fact my latest grandchild was born 4 days ago, and she has 7 older siblings! But, we lived a thousand miles away from my family, and at least 1-1/2 hours from my in-laws. We hadn't lived in either place long - two medium sized cities - either time our kids were born. I didn't know many people, and we had very few visitors either time. My family traveled by car to visit their 1st and 2nd grandchildren, and my mother stayed a few weeks to help. My in-laws came to visit of course, but my husband's grandparents showed up totally unannounced on Sunday morning, assuming for some reason at 9:00 AM that everyone would be dressed and presentable, and the house would be spotless, a week after I brought the baby home, and I was on crutches living in a townhouse apartment. (Don't ask - it would take a book to explain.) To demand "tribute" like that would have NEVER entered my mind! Gifts are GIFTS - not the price of admission!
The OP and her husband = complete arseholes. Venal, grasping opportunists. I wouldn’t blame their family and friends if they cut that nasty couple off for good. I just feel sorry for the baby.
Reading these restrictions & as soon as I got to the gift card I was finished with the new parents. Then the next one saying whoever is visiting has to buy you food & clean your house… If I was related to them I definitely wouldn’t see them or their any time soon. The poor kid’s gonna grow up isolated & friendless.
People like these so called parents are what's wrong with the country they feel entitled for having a child that they are definitely using as a cash grab heres an idea get up and clean your own house expecting someone to bring you something is a good way to be left with no family or friends hopefully when child becomes old enough they leave because the world doesn't need more like those so called parents more like jackasses
Is this an American thing? I have never heard of anyone making a list of do's and dont's like this, or any list come to think of it. Vaccines I sort of get, but who would visit a newborn if they were sick? Everything else is just psychotic. Only stay an hour? When my daughter was new, she screamed her head off for hours if she wasn't the centre of attraction. I would have PAID family and friends to come and visit for as long as they wanted just for the chance for some decent sleep.
OP is TA. You wanting protection from disease is fine. Charging an admission fee in housework, groceries, and money? Screw you! The sister who's a college student and yet begged for a chance to see your baby will likely never want to visit you or your children~~EVER. Any crap you throw in the future will only alienate relatives. I suppose anyone coming to holidays or birthday parties will be demanded a "mininum" gift of $50 or $100 or just don't show? You are setting your kid up to being both an entitled brat AND extremely lonely.
Wow. This is just so off the wall! They are pretty much charging admission to see the baby. Yeah. Sorry. I would definitely not waste my time on going to their house . What a bunch of horrid money hungry people. Gift card for mom and gift for baby?? And bring us groceries!! Yeah. I say YTA!! Definitely
Wow. That is just too much. You want a gift card, groceries/takeout, chores done for you and a gift for the baby? Girl you need to get a PHD to be charging those kind of prices for an hour....or become an escort.
This first time mom is off her rocker, greedy and want to be the center of attention. Unless the baby has health challenges, a normal baby needs contact, not sterile environment! I always think of what happen to the big pig farms that are closed environments, sterilized and sanitized so much that if anything ever enters the animals have no immunity to even reasonable minor bacteria or viruses. Unless the mom want to raise a baby in a bubble... Well she better get off her high horse and stop acting like an idiot.
I’m having a hard time believing this. So their visitors have to bring a gift for the baby the first time, not that big a deal. The strange request is they must bring food AND do a chore around the house. Like what, do the laundry, scrub the floors, clean the toilets? Come on, who would really ask or expect that?! Feels like it’s a fake post.
Wonder how the parents are gonna feel when they desperately need a babysitter and everyone says no because of this stupid "list".
You need a mental health check. This is ridiculous. You are alienating family from your child, and will be teaching your baby that unless someone gives you what you want or does exactly what you tell them to do, they aren't worthy of being in your life. That's sickening and very sad for the child. The only 'rule' that even makes sense is if you feel ill, don't visit. ALL of the others are just plain rude and none of your business. What are you planning on sniffing everyone's armpits while checking their vaccination cards at the door? Get a grip.
It'll be hard to find a babysitter when they learn THEY have to pay for someone to show up and care for their kid.
Disgusting!! I'm shocked they even have people who WANT to be around them!! I wouldn't!!
Do these parents actually have visitors DO these things?Screw that!! I feel very sorry for this baby and future friendless child [can you imagine the list of rules for birthdays or sleepovers?] I'll watch for a documentary about it...killer children...why children bludgeon their parents.
So, you gave birth to the Messiah!! Congratulations. Now, learn from Jesus' mother. The Wise Men brought gifts voluntarily and there were farm animals present. Despite being born in a barn, Jesus made it to adulthood and was around family and friends through his entire life to the end. My guess is that 'Precious Jr." will be a very lonely child.
Well that got weird.. quick. I was on board with vaccines, no smoking.. started to get weird at no deodorant and finished with a " no one will ever come back after cooking cleaning and paying homage to your entitled asses" Good luck trying get a sitter for a night out when you're frazzled and in desperate need of 2 hours of adult time. I personally would do a once courtesy call and never go back.
Most of their list is so ridiculous - they don't deserve the sister in law in their life. It's unfortunate for the child as it's not his fault his parents are AHs. One of the rules really baffled me though (don't get me wrong - they are mostly ridiculous)... No calling or visiting from 730 pm to 10 pm... Don't visit during tv prime time, but once that's over, feel free to visit or call all night long? Wtf?
The first couple of rules I get and understand. But the other ones. This woman is using her baby as a cash business. Someone needs to call CPS on this woman bc she's using her baby for monitary value. What if when the baby is like 12 she pimps her out or worse. This woman is dangerous and nuts. She needs a wake up call. Everyone in her life needs to slap some sense into her. If they can't see the baby, but so be it. This woman needs everyone in her life to cut her and the dad out of it. Bc no one demands those rules of anyone. It's nuts. You don't demand people to clean and cook for you. That's the thing people usually volunteer. It's no wonder she probably didn't have a shower. She probably demanded the gifts at that too. This woman is def a delusional jerk who needs a. Huge reality check. And if she wants family in this kids life, then she better apologize to everyone bc if she doesn't she isn't going to have anyone left in her life for the baby to visit.
Does daddy pimp for a living? I would hate to grow up as the child of (or any kind of kin to) parents who sell time with their kid.
That is so entitled it's sickening. Why do these people think they have the right to make up rigid rules for other people like that? "You can only stay an hour", but then most of that hour will likely be taken up with doing a chore! And the treatment of the sister? They'll be lucky if she ever visits them again, thereby depriving the child of a relationship with their aunt. Idiots. Ugh.
Wow that kid is likely to be an insufferable a*****e when he grows up. Yikes. 😬
You must realize that absolutely everyone you know is making fun of you and laughing behind your backs...if not directly to your face. And you deserve no less. You will come out of this friendless and alone. Nobody likes users...you even stoop so low as to use your own infant. The only gifts you should be getting are books on Etiquette. Ugh!!
You are DEFINITELY the AH! You should be GRATEFUL that you have family and friends in your life who are excited to share your joy with you -- not emotional-hostage cash cows! The audacity of your greed and stupidity boggles my mind. How many people in this world would LOVE to have that kind of support system around them. AND YOU TREAT THEM LIKE THIS?!!!!!!
Usually I don't like it when the family steps in, but these two absolutely deserved it, and each other. I hope they don't mind that they've alienated their whole family and what sounds like a loving aunt.
Poor kid. He’s definitely going to be an a$$hole too, so no great loss.
Yeah, I don't wanna see your (literally) stinking baby ANYWAY, so now I have some awesome reasons not to...
Both you AND your husband are asses. This does not appear to be about the baby, but how much you can milk your friends and family for. Your poor child is going to grow up to be an entitled ass with no friends or no idea how the real world works. You don't deserve friends and family and certainly not your sister-in-law and I'm shocked you have any to give your requirements to. Who do you think you are? Mother Mary? Not even she acted like this. Spoiler alert: You aren't that special, nor is your child.
They really need.to apologize to the SIL any EVERYONE ELSE. And also return funds spent to anyone who visited. I had twins out the gate. And did not expect half of this nonsense. No smoking wash hands don't kiss on mouth... WTF else do you need. I melted my heart when friends and family bonded with my kids. They are 10 now and the people who visited back then have the closest bond with them now... Plus what if something happens to your undeserving asses? What would happen to the kid? Did you think about that when you made your self centered list? I hope it's not the SIL cause if tell you to shove it!!
I was with them right up until the gift list, take out, and chore list came up. There is a reason they put that last. They are definitely the A@@H&^%.
My thought is although Parents are trying to keep the Baby safe physically is either Parent thinking of the emotional outcome of the Baby and teaching the Baby to grow to Love and Learn opposed to teaching the Baby to take advantage of People? If their Baby grows up doing this it is going to be hard for her/him to make friends Get along in School Get Jobs and relate to People in general! He/she will not even understand why this is happening to them because of the self entitled way they were raised! So Sad!
Wow! I'd be happy to never have contact with these neurotic, greedy people again! Good riddance!
I think the parents went a little overboard what are they doing while the visitor is cleaning their home and are you reimbursing these people? You should be grateful someone is taking time to visit the baby. YTA don't deserve friends. 8 would tell you to go to hell.
Bwahahah isn't it she's so dense to asked if she's the as*h*le in this situation. I wouldn't visit them even if the world collapse. Then wait for them to ask why no one cared to loved or visit their first born. It will come eventually that their "cash grab" will backfired to their kid.
Baby Daddy, better hope they never split up, he's gonna have to get a cavity search, a background check,, a credit check as well as present a solid gold brick and clean his exs bathroom everytime he wants to see his own kid... And don't lie yall KNOW, SHE came up with those rules and he just shook his head and went along with it, cause living with a woman like that must be TERRIFYING! He probably has to strip naked, burn his clothes,, get sprayed down with the hose, detail her car, show his vaccine card and hand her $100 everytime he enters the house. And GUARENTEE she doesn't work... probably never has.
Way to teach your child to only love, value and appreciate those closest to them by what they have to offer them... you're not raising a littlr selfish narssasist or anything!! And I'm sorry but the fact that yall had to ASK "AITA" tells me just how desnse you are!! And fyi the people closet to you would prob bring gifts and food and help with chores regardless (I do for My best friend who had a baby in dec.) But it should be done out of LOVE, not a forced stipulation! This is an infant and their family NOT a peasant meeting royalty and even the royals wouldn't ask people to do this crap!! Why do women like this reproduce?! When it's clearly impossible for them to think of anyone but themselves like why bother? So u can use ur kid as a p**n?!?!
These people sound like they are going to make horrible parents....they are probably going to home school their only child and it will grow up spoiled and wierd
I would like to know what her parents think(the grandparents) if I ever acted like this my mom would have set me straight so I don't act a fool!! We all can agree that some rules and boundaries are needed especially if you have a big family, but this is entitled childish behavior to expect presents and cleaning. I would even go as far as those who would do those things to help a new baby wouldn't if it's expected.
If I could I would call child protective services. You definitely don't love your child to use the baby to extort gifts and services from your own family and friends. Talk about emotional manipulation. Praying that you loss custody of your child.
Apparently the baby won't have any visitors until she is a teenager then by that time she will be very far behind in social skills and immune system antibodies. Good luck in raising it with no friends.
You must make an appointment to see the child. You can only visit for an hour. You must complete a task. Such time constraints. And how much of your hour, after completing the task, will you have to visit with the child?
Vaccines fine but you as a new parent took your rules to a new low in the times now you expect gifts, food or your household chores done no as a good parent you need to already have groceries and chores done. Pretty sad day when one expects much even from family who didn't require it before COVID. Shame on you.
My friend's first child had rules like that. Vaccinated against whooping cough etc, this is before Covid. No shoes In the house, sanitizer, minimal handling, no sick visits and certain laundry detergent. Turns out the baby had a reaction to different peoples clothes. I feel understandable given the world today. The grandmother wouldn't get the DPT shot. But no paying toll for the baby AND the mother, blackmailed into cleaning. This is twisted.
Definitely wouldn’t be going there to visit with all those crazy demands. Enjoy your solitude, buying your own groceries & cleaning your own house. No one owes the mom a gift card for having a baby. That’s crazy. That’s a lonely life they are carving out, pathetic.
Alienating the baby in the most important years if their life from loved ones and friends who will be a part of that baby's life for many years will inhibit binding with other people and it will also curb the baby's natural inquisitive nature and sociability to be in a society full of people. It could make the baby antisocial. They are like sponges and absorb everything in the first 5-7years of their life, starting from birth. Even before birth they hear sounds a d voices and can identify them. After birth they see faces and mimic the looks on the others faces and repeat those when they see those faces again. This is a form of communication already installed early into us as humans ability to be social. When they don't see new people and don't see them often, their amity to differentiate between different people and expressions are curtailed and hence their social amity are diminished. In some cultures the whole village will carry the baby for the first 5 years. Don't deny your baby.
What a freak. Poor sweet baby. Don't know what planet these people are from... what a waste of space.
The people who made all those rules about their baby and who can do what need some serious mental health help. Their thoughts are very unhealthy.
These rules are ridiculous period. I understand wanting people to be clean, healthy and safe, but people who are coming to VISIT should not have to do chores whether you have babies/kiss or not. That's absolutely ridiculous. That's using your child/baby as an excuse to make other people clean YOUR house, it's just ridiculous. It's not everyone else's responsibility to clean your home and buy you groceries and it's crazy. When you visit friends and family your not supposed to have to clean and go food shopping for them with your money in order to be able to visit a FAMILY MEMBER or FRIEND. These people are just ridiculous.
Most of these rules make sense. But as for requesting take out that's ridiculous. Requesting to do a chore that's just rude most people will offer. Bringing a gift the first time a little bit more understandable, but rude. I do not see what these things have to do with keeping the baby safe. The mother should already have the house clean if she wants her baby safe. Good people will offer. it's just rude to ask or insist. And obviously the mother herself did not go to college as the sister-in-law is because she cannot even spell the word College correctly. I'm just saying.
I would never talk to them again, you want gifts and food work for it, you want your house cleaned, get a maid.
Honestly, you guys do you. One day when your child grows up, he will move far away and you will not ever see him again. People who are so self centered and undeserving never get to keep their children in their lives. You may not learn this lesson for another 20 years or so, but when you do, it will be too late. I had friends like this and their children moved as far away as possible. They never get to see their grandchildren and are never invited for holidays. I have 2 boys and 5 grandbabies. Only see 3 regularly because the other mom is psycho! Those children are missing out and so will yours! Gifts required, free labor, I bet this is all the mother's request! B**ches Be Crazy!
Your child will grow up an emotion-less loner. Babies need love. Will a gift hug them or smile? Sounds like you're prostitution your child who has to be paid & serviced before seen. Blocking family is an action kids do. Do you make people stand in the corner if they don't clean correctly. Your child should be removed from your home. The child needs human contact, not gifts. Shame on you!
My grandson was born during the pandemic and for a number of times that we saw him in the beginning we were garbed like hospital staff. We weren’t allowed to hold him for a few weeks either. I understand all that. It’s necessary. But what does keeping the child safe have to do with giving the parents free things that have nothing to do with the baby? If they keep this up their kid will have no family to be close to. And perhaps no friends either. And in the future their child will have only their example to follow and may turn out just as selfish. How could anyone alienate family like that. They will be lucky if any of their family members speak to them again. Sorry this is so long but I just got so upset!
Poor kid. Not the first to suffer from a psycho mom. And that's just the beginning. Clearly the father is subdued by his wife and won't defend his baby from her behaviour. Relatives won't be visiting much, so no protection there. Looks like we're witnessing the beginning of a child psychological abuse case. The seeds are there. Who's going to protect the kid from psycho narcissist parents? As an ex abused child, heads up. These are the red flags....
A twenty year old can not afford to buy lavish gifts form your registry regardless if she's a student or not. The fact that she offered to clean your entire house, for free, was a mature and generous offer, just to look at her nephew for a few minutes, ( it doesn't seem that you'd be allowing anyone lots of time with the baby), and you had no problem telling her no. Apparently you have no idea how much you've hurt her feelings. She was probably very excited to be an aunt, only to be denied access to seeing her nephew because she didn't have enough money. And you seem surprised that she won't return your moot attempts at what...an apology? What's worse, is denying your son the ability to bond with his extended family. No apology will ever fix that. It's sad you couldn't find it in your heart to let your SIL meet her new nephew.
This is one of the most ridiculous things I’ve ever read and honestly I can’t decide if i think this is a troll or not. You might swindle parents with this bs, maybe, but I can absolutely assure you that no one cares enough about someone else’s baby to do all that to see it. Buy your own s**t people don’t expect others to fund the child YOU had. I mean I really don’t even know what else to say to the rest. Oh yea. “Timeout”??!!!??!!! 😂🤣
Some of these rules are fine, but the rest are just downright stupid. Gifts for the baby are what baby showers are for. And even then, they shouldn't be mandatory. And do your own chores, b***h.
I started out agreeing with your rules, but the more I read, the more I got offended, and I don't even know y'all! How dare y'all tell people that must bring you and the baby a gift, take out, groceries, and do chores, that rude beyond belief! Ms. Manners would give y'all a stern talking to, and how entitled can you get?! No one has to do anything, and what y'all decided were your rules, are actually voluntary if a person wants to or not, not a demand. Does your baby talk in multiple languages already, do gymnastics, or anything that requires an admission fee? No it doesn't, so y'all get of yourselves. I personally would've sent y'all a picture of my middle finger if I was your sister in law, and told y'all that was my gift to y'all, not the baby. Y'all could've eased up, and not try and force her to do these ridiculous rules, because she's family, and she's young and in college, and no one would've known, if no one told anyone else. I hope your happy losing family because of gre
What idiots those parents are! I would have told them, "Fine, I choose not to be a part of you or your child's life. Please do not call or try to get in touch with me. I will not sit with him when he is sick, I won't babysit, I won't send birthday, Christmas, or wedding presents if he ever marries. In short, forget that you ever knew me."
First of all I want to point out that it is NOT only the mother but the father too. He didn't like the criticism from his parents and gave them a "time out" and blocked them. All of this just goes to show how immature these parents are. Did you know that the healthiest children are the kids who grow up on farms?? Your demands are Absolutely ridiculous!!! If you were my own son or daughter, I wouldn't come for a visit under these rules!!!! I feel the most sorry for this child. His/her life has already started out terribly with his/her own parents selling views of him/her for their profit. I feel so, so bad for this child. This child is not a welcome addition to this family; the mother and father think they own him/her and can profit from having a child!!!! Poor, poor kid!!!!
Is this the second coming of Christ? Seriously, they’re twisted. Your baby’s not that cute.
Is this baby the second coming of Christ? Seriously; you’re twisted. Your baby isn’t that cute.
Some rules i can understand though like vaccines and no smokers but the rest are stupid
Work for me and give me gifts like I'm your queen then see my baby for an hour
1) too many "no" rules 2) that's alot of mo ey in comparison to they stay. And a chore which will take. Up to half the time they are there. 3)so you need to purchase at least 2 gifts and a pile of groceries spend potentially gas money for said groceries and gifts as well as foe the trip to theor place and back home. The. You have to do a chore than takes from 5minutes to an hour. 4) you have to do all that just to sta for a maximum of ONE HOUR. YTA not to mention it's not just a money grab. It's horrifyingly excessive. This is entitled A**H*le Bulls**t. Not just that the mother is a NARCISSISTIC piece of S**T she probably gave ber husband an ultimatum to make him go along with that or he's just a pushover. possibly even a pansy. If then the dude has some other issues. I feel sorry f OK the broke college student for having such entitled Pr**ks for Family.
As everyone else has implied, a lot of the rules are fine and totally understandable. But expecting guests to brings things, especially groceries and gift cards, and to help with chores? Who asks these things of their guests? I've never heard of such a thing! Look at the baby's aunt - she can't afford to buy anything. Instead, she offered to do extra chores. Of course she shouldn't have been expected to do chores in the first place just to visit her nephew. Another thing - what if someone close to the family who'd be expected to visit ends up not being able to because they're physically unable to do chores of any kind? How fair is this to those people? I do understand the need for staying away if sick or if you feel like you're coming down with something, as well as some of the other rules. I am in total agreement with those rules and no social media posts. But demanding gifts and guests doing chores? Nope!!!!
Great. I would never see that baby then. I would have given a GIFT by myself, but if ask me to get them gifts from this store, PLUS do grocery shopping(which we know can get pretty expensive in itself) PLUS do a chore, F**K THEM! Did th3y give birth to the baby for me and others or what? They are the parentsy its their responsibility, and they cant EXPECT anybody else to do their job. Ive never heard of such entitlement. Disgusting.
Yeah. You and your husband are Terrible people. Treating family like servant's
YTA She was willing to clean the whole house for you lazy greedy people to see her neohew, yall suck big time
I want to use this opportunity to tell the whole world on how I become rich and famous. I’m 93 years old. I was passing through difficulty in business and there was no hope of me coming out of my debt. I borrow money in my bank to do my business and I run at lost on the business I got frustrated and decided to be playing lottery to see if I can win and make my business grow and I have played for years now nothing good is coming my way on till I meet someone online talking about Dr Ayoola on the internet. He was taking about how this Dr Ayoola help him to win mega million lottery game. I said to myself if this is true and decide to contact him and told him to help me as well I later read more about this man and see how he has been helping people all over the world. I have faith in him and choose to work with him. After working with him he told me what I need to do for the number to be given to me which I did after he finish working he said I will have a dream and the number
review to me in the dream. That night has I was sleeping I dream a number immediately he call me and gave me the same number I dream of and ask me to go and play the number. Today I’m here testifying of the good work he did for me I played the number and I won the sum of 1, 000,000 million dollars in a lotto max. You can contact Dr Ayoola for help if you want to win big in lottery game he has the gift of giving right number contact him today and thank me email him today Via email: drayoolasolutionhome@gmail. com or https://www.facebook.com/Dr-Ayoola-105640401516053/ text or call +14809032128
I want to use this opportunity to tell the whole world on how I become rich and famous. I’m 93 years old. I was passing through difficulty in business and there was no hope of me coming out of my debt. I borrow money in my bank to do my business and I run at lost on the business I got frustrated and decided to be playing lottery to see if I can win and make my business grow and I have played for years now nothing good is coming my way on till I meet someone online talking about Dr Ayoola on the internet. He was taking about how this Dr Ayoola help him to win mega million lottery game. I said to myself if this is true and decide to contact him and told him to help me as well I later read more about this man and see how he has been helping people all over the world. I have faith in him and choose to work with him. After working with him he told me what I need to do for the number to be given to me which I did after he finish working he said I will have a dream and the number will be revi
Somebody is kind enough to take time out of their busy life to come over and see their baby and THIS is how they behave?? I'd tell her to shove her baby right back where it came from. What a psycho.
Not are yta, I'm glad someone in the family is going to school and getting an education. It's very obvious you or your SO did not. I would tell you to go f*** yourselves so quickly. To think she BEGGED to see her nephew out of LOVE!! You need to look that word up in in the dictionary. Yall are the most entitled, selfish, non-caring humans ever. I feel so sorry for this child.
For the sake of the baby, please get counseling. This extremely rigid adherence to the rules and insistence on treating adult family members like children with "time out" show you are not the kind of parents who will raise this baby into a healthy adult. Have you even stopped to realize that the day will come you need to treat this person like an adult who can make his own decisions and have his own personality? Who can make mistakes without turning into a neurotic mess? Or do you want him to charge you money and make you clean his house in order to see your grandson? Do you want him to put you in time out when you suggest he's unreasonable? No internet comment will fix what is so deeply wrong with how you interact with other people. Please get therapy if you see this child as anything other than a tool.
Not only are they a$$holes, they are delusional. I'd laugh my behind off at that list and not gad about seeing that baby.
Dear merciful God in Heaven, I wish this couple had never procreated. That kid is going to grow up so f^@ked in the head, it'll never survive on its own.
So if the idea was to keep visiting to a minimum, did it work? Or were the only ones who couldn't visit people like your sis in law?
I was agreeing (tentatively on the smokers, because they could have just said, "Please don't smoke at our house") and then I saw "bring (me) a gift card and baby a gift from our approved list."...Was she an only child and hubby just wished he'd been an only child?? And then to demand food and chores?? I'm sorry.....What sense of self importance has been imbedded in these ones?? Did your child come out as the golden baby, pooping out solid gold pebbles all day until 7:30pm when the factory gets closed down for the night?? See, in my family, we automatically bring food and gifts, EVERY time we visit. And we will clean a house without asking, because a new momma's tired. But using these as a requirement to even meet or visit?? Their child wasn't born with a silver spoon, so now they're trying to con the family into supplying the utensil. There are other babies in the world, and even though all kids are special, one specific child spitting up is not worth the price of admission.
...and they're going to wonder why sil (and hubby's entire family) prefer the kids they're allowed to see AND why no one will help them out if they need it. "We need a babysitter. You'll have to pay for our night out and completely scrub the house from top to bottom - before we leave so you're not neglecting Damien.," "What do you mean you can't babysit? That's what you've said the last 2000 times we've asked you to babysit."
Both the husband and wife backing each other up and reinforcing this lunacy. What were the odds these two obnoxious nuts would find each other? They will drive their kid nuts with stupid rules and restrictions too.
YES.....YTA.....as an only child married to an only child the fact that you ask your precious relatives to kiss your a*s-ets, empty their wallet and scrub your floors because you have a baby make me physically ill. You are blessed with family who _want_ to bond with your child and you think that list is an ok thing to _demand_ from _family_!?! Wow. When that baby gets sick in the middle of the night when you and your entitled SO are dog sick with the stomach virus de jour...who are you going to call for back up? The people you were so rude to? The people you felt owed you groceries and maid service? Yeah....no. Your family owes you nothing. YOU on the other hand owe all of them an apology and an invitation to come to see the baby _empty-handed_!!! Actually.....I should reconsider.... your ntas because you are MEGA-AHS! Just.....damn.
If my own daughter came up with such an entitled money grubbing ridiculous list, I’d tell her to shove it & send the kid to see me when they’re of age & no one is demanding physical labor, money, food, or groveling before the queen as admission. Want some gold, frankincense & myrrh too? You obviously think you’re the mother of Jesus Christ himself. I’ll give you the vaccines & no smokers, the rest is rubbish.
I hope that these parents soon write in about how HORRIBLE their family is for not providing free childcare and demand that they buy their child birthday presents starting at $1K Tell babydaddy to clean the house and order food online. Disgusting how entitled parents can be.
I think they think they are special. I love kids but it’s a baby for crying out loud. That’s it!!!! Not some God or Queen. I say no one should visit then let them pay people to come see the baby.
Some are for the kid's health, but the bringing gifts and doing chores? Have a tea party with satan recently? You're no better than the parents who use their kids for fame and glory. Yuck.
I thought vaccines up to date can understand, but gifts, takeaways and household stuff NO WAY JOSE who the he'll do they think they are fgs
They’ll be lonely and the kid will be unsocialised. I bet, hope, nobody visits these greedy tyrants.
But wasn't the point to *minimise visits"? That's what she said. I think they made this demanding list so people would get all bent out of shape and refuse to come. Result! Nice one! Hey, husband, it worked!
They are so IN the wrong for demanding visitors bring gifts and food and do chores non of these are ok nobody should visit
They’ll be changing their tune once baby is older and they want to go out baby free from time to time. No free babysitting for you.
🤣🤣🤣Omg I laughed until my sides hurt. I strongly suggest they start looking for a good therapist for their kid, now. They're gonna need it💀Maybe they'll find one that takes GIFT CARDS!!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣These people are straight up delusional. I hope nobody comes to visit them bc that poor baby isn't a sideshow. Whomever it was that said they are charging admission is absolutely right! What the heck is wrong with these people😂 Oh boy, I've officially heard it all.
OP might want to think about going to school themselves since they can't spell college...and seriously demanding gifts and/or gift cards?!?
She's lucky that family want to come visit. The father's side of my daughters don't care and don't ever visit or ask about them. A bit my family too! How ridiculous, you should be grateful so many wish to be there for you! That's real community and then to take advantage like that? 🤦♀️
YTA! You two shouldn’t have reproduced you are jerks! You have the most selfish reasons for your rules that don’t have anything to do with family or bonding. I feel bad for the Aunt to your child. He is not your possession, he is a gift for you to share Not to charge admission.
How did mothers in the 1960 - 2000 ever make it having children without blackmail labor and gifts? My parents both smoked and passed us around every chance she got. This mom will live to regret running everyone off. Especially when she needs a break from baby and housework? Nobody will help her now
They have to be related to K.Schwab because that's some N.World.O crap right there. You will buy only what I want you to buy me and like it, you will be enslaved by us and like it, you will have nothing by the time you head back to college and like it. 😆 Can someone also tell this chick she doesn't have some magical fortress between her legs that allows her to produce 14K gold Faberge babies... Please and thank you✌🏻
Well Lady Muck demanding like a queen & yer man had better wake up.. Your already saying No well baby just learnt it from you when its at terrible 2's it will all come out yelling Nooo... How do you think your parents & grandparents do all chores rear children & have time to bond it was no silver spoons given out.. Surely you get child allowence to buy your food on maternity leave...family support by now is out the door good.
Wow I didn't realize there was so many ways to use a baby as a p**n 😭
the gypsy mentality conquers the whole west; they use their children for begging and sell them.
Load More Replies...
Is it me just me or does anyone else think this isn't the moms doing but the new dad.Trying to keep control of things including his wife in the guise of protecting her and the baby. He is the one that wrote the list and sent it out months in advance that's a controlling action when you feel like you have no control.Then to say no even when the sister in law asked he was the one I believe convinced the mom that they shouldn't bend the rules for his sister, and when the parents had a go at him he bans them. No I think its the husband who's TA for thinking any of this is a good thing and dragging his wife and child into it. And she's the one concerned about being TA because I believe even she's starting to see that the list he wrote went to far.
It's probably the mom.... And not the first to tread that "control freak" path where they claim to know what's best and finally get to play real "house", and won't listen to anybody's advice, etc. ... If that's already not healthy, this one took it too far. Dads normally dont go control freak on their new babies, and especially don't use the moms to do their dirty work. Some moms can get very annoying with their entitlements and "wants", but most keep it within their 4 walls. Normally as the dad is subdued by the female lawmaker, he normally takes the role of making her not look so bad to external people and excusing her. This is a toxic relationship that shouldn't have kids in the first place.
Load More Replies...
These newbie parents are narcissistic sociopaths!!! I sure hope there baby doesn't turn into them!!! Your baby isn't Jesus Christ!!! You both should be ashamed of yourselves, using your baby for free gifts, food, and a free maid!!! Wtf!!! You both are not entitled to the world to bow at your feet!!! If I was your family I would tell you to kiss my ass you materialistic, Narcissistic sociopaths and to grow the f**k up!!!
I don't know if its just me but I get the impression that most of this is coming from the new dad and he has convinced the mom that these things are reasonable. He made the list and I think its more about his control of everything including his wife under the guise of protecting her and the baby. The list so far in advance of the event, saying no to his sister and banning his family I think its him who has the issues. And she loves him to much to see how wrong some of what is on the list is wrong.
Probably not. That's reaching and victimizing the abuser.
Load More Replies...
They should be ashamed of themselves! Asking for a gift card for the mom and gifts for the baby. Then food and cleaning their house. Did their 1 newborn turn into Triplets where right now they need that kind of help. Seriously if you couldn't afford to take care of your family and clean your house you shouldn't have a child! Go see a therapist and get some serious help!!! So sick!!
I was on board at first, but then it got to the gift part. I get bringing a gift for the baby, but the mother demanding one?? It started out pretty reasonable. I do agree with the no smoking and no pictures on the internet, but demanding chores and money is just out of line. I get wanting to have help around a newborn, but DEMANDING it from people who want to visit is crazy. Why not have the husband help clean? I understand the pain and trauma involved with childbirth but the level of entitlement is mind-boggling. Yes, every mother needs time to heal and rest, but this is just crazy.
Holy Cow, this is a joke, right??? If this is a real life scenerio........YTA, and then some! Wow!!!
Cash cow. Idc what they say. I would never be that bytch to tell people this is what you're gonna do. Smfh.
This is gross. I'd gladly cut off anyone from my family who was like that. I can't believe some people are this self entitled. 1. Not one person owes you anything just because you had a kid. Why on earth would they expect a friend or family member to just willingly do chores for them. Sure it's normal for some close family to offer some extra help here and there while visiting but it should never be expected. Why would you demand a gift for both mom and baby. How selfish can you be? You think you're the first person to ever have a baby?! Get off your high horse, my god. You're stopping the kids aunt from meeting their niece or nephew for the first time over something so petty. Honestly I hope for the SIL sake, she just cuts ties completely with those toxic people.
I am absolutely impressed that in the entire population of the world, these two like minded people found each other...I am sad that they made a baby that they can torture...
I have a hard time thinking someone could actually do that. And when his parents messaged her and got it off their chests, the son says your in time out and blocks them. I wonder how strict the parents will be when this child gets older? Yep, I would disown my son if he ever did that to me. Here’s your $1 when I die. Honestly I raised my kids to be more respectful than that… this is just insane!
Wow, pure greed and selfishness. I would write the entitled jerks out of my life. And say good riddance. Wait untill they have a need for friends and or family. I hope everyone tells the selfish, holier than thou jerks to take a hike and block them from ever contacting them again.
This OP and her husband can go straight to hell on a rollercoaster. I wish I would buy gifts, groceries and do chores to visit a baby. This ain’t the birth of Jesus. Ma’am. Bye.
Did they have a baby shower and get the gifts that were important? If so, I think that they figured they didnt want to get multiple gifts that they wouldn't use, and it would be helpful to bring gift cards and also food and supplies that they would need in the first few months, and that helping by cleaning would be better than getting 50 receiving blankets for example. The concept, if presented properly, is a good one but this couple sounds as though they are not flexible, OCD, and just too impressed with tbemselves. I would guess that the husband's family has been putting up with all kinds of bulls**t from him since he was a child, and was allowed to get away with it because it was exhausting to the family to deal with it. Don't know if the wife/mother justs goes along with it because she doesn't have a choice. He sounds bipolar and they need therapy and mental health treatment for this nonsense.
I miss the sane world where people had lots of kids and didn't worry about germs nor ask for gifts. You got 1 baby shower, for the first child, because it was assumed you would use much of the same things for the subsequent children, or you would work to provide for them. Kids shared clothes and bedrooms, and probably the occasional sickness. Horrors! No masks either. Ah, sweet freedom. And lots of relatives coming and going too. It was a great life.
Ringling Brothers Circus Show, price of admission to see the Baby! You would have lost me right there permanently, true colors showing. How terribly sad for this child's life. These people need help or DCF down the road for intervention.
Those two are nuttier than fruit cakes. ! Pay and do chores is this baby made of gold? Everyone in that family should stay far far away! How freaking ridiculous its all about money and things! Using your baby for personal gain! What losers!
Like did you not have a baby shower or registry where people could buy you gifts and send to your house. When I had my two children ( twins) I usually had my husband go buy groceries on his way home from work. As for cleaning the house weekends me and my husband would take turns playing with babies or feeding while the other did some chores around the house. What you’re asking for is selfish and are acting like entitled waste of human space. As for the college student I feel for her. I mean my brother was in the same situation and he was just in a different state who barely came to visit and he used all his money to come home for the holidays to see the family and meet the babies. I told him sure just make sure you are up to date on vaccines and get the flu shot and wear a mask around baby. I agree with the comments about going to hell. Some parents don’t deserve to be parents and your two of them.
You are definitely an ahole! Simply remove the ridiculous rule that people must bring gifts for everyone. Most people will bring a gift for the baby anyway, as that is the norm. For the parents? You two have some serious issues! Just remove your stupid rule of gifts for parents, and friggin house chores, and people may want to actually come visit. If that baby was one of my four grandkids I wouldn't visit until you two idiots realized how absurd you are! Good luck to that poor baby with you two as it's parents......
I was totally on their side until i finished reading every rule. I can already see the overprotection and it feels like yall using ur baby to get money and gifts like wth
They just want money, gift and help. Even from a broke college girl. To hell with them. If I'm also in the ladies shoe I won't reply them again, at least for a long time
Absolutely ridiculous to force someone to bring you a gift or your baby a gift it's their choice if they want to bring you a gift it's like telling someone they have to buy you a Christmas present do you get a present if they feel like giving you a present and to ask him when did chores come visit you or see your baby ridiculous do you have to do a tour to go visit them you can limit how many visits per week or for how long but I would make an exception for someone who doesn't live close and can't come back for 6 months I would let them come visit before they left it's ridiculous to tell someone they have to bring you a gift and they have to do a chore that makes you look like you're a psycho. You act like you're royalty you want them to bow down and kiss your feet two when they get to the door. You can ask someone you know please only visit once a week, or don't stay longer than an hour that's fine but other than that your list is ridiculous yeah I like it's a privilege to come see yo
So really you want family and friends to pay you to see your baby 🤔 To clean your house to see your baby🤔 to provide you with items and food to see your baby. Yeah yall have really lost it.... Then have the nerve to have this young lady actually begging you and going as far as willing to clean the whole dam house and you still say no because you can't get the cash Sounds hard up for cash to me
They are both asses. There is no question you need to set limits with limits to visits & times bc newborns are just scrumptious & people can over stay their welcome. I also believe in asking not to kiss baby on or near thier mouth. If they smoke ask them not to have recently & to bring a clean, smoke free tee to change into so if they hold your baby you don't get them back smelling like smoke. Smokers are nose blind & don't seem to realize or remember that smoke clings to your clothing. Or keep $5 tees handy if you want to have peace of mind. Asking anyone not to come by not to have the sniffles should be a given but nowadays being vaccinated should also be given. Argue beliefs another time. When you have a newborn & family or friends visit they often ask (mine did) if we needed help with anything around the home or would give you a quick chance to take a hot shower or something. If none of them do then limiting visit times & length is absolutely called for bc your already tired...
& hosting adds to this. BUT making gifts, gift cards, groceries AND fast food orders AND chores a must is too much. Not everyone has extra money to throw around. College students even less. They come home with all their laundry & usually take groceries from the pantry back with them too. Lastly do you want to have to explain to your child when they start asking the reason why Gma, Gpa, aunts, uncles, cousins etc arent close or don't come around is bc of YOU?!?!
Load More Replies...
You’re husband is a shitty brother for allowing it. You’ll soon regret this when you’re in need and you are charged for all the help you get. I’m sure you’ll be on here complaining about that too.
Do my grocery shopping, bring me gifts and do my chores !!! WTH!!! Plan to be lonely and get off your sorry ass and do your own chores and grocery shopping. Sounds like you're prostituting your kid. These people don't deserve a baby.
When my daughter had my grandson, the only rules she made were no visitors for a couple of weeks ( my grandson was premature and she had a C section and they both needed to rest) and that everyone be vaccinated or wear a mask and of course, not to come over if they were feeling unwell. Anything that wasn't gifted to them they went and got themselves or ASKED for it if someone asked them what they needed. My grandson is healthy and happy because all of his family members are allowed to contribute to his care and well-being whenever they want. Children who are raised by a caring "village" are some of the happiest, well-adjusted people and it sounds like this baby is going to be deprived of that. His parents are really selfish.
Just wait. The kid will live at least 70 years. You'll eventually get to see it. The parents are being quite self-centered.
Wrong ..you people are something else...crazy....poor child to have goofs for parents...
Shame on them. Ppl have been having children for eternity. That isnt baby Jesus. Shame on you both!
Yeah you and our husband is too much by insisting on a gift or chores. Respect your visitors a little. The rest I can understand, especially the no picking up baby and kissing without consent (paediatrician Archana's licence here needs to be questioned since she's supposed to focus on infectious part), as adult germs could easily get a newborn sick. We enforced this as well for our newborn after advise and research.
These people are disgusting! Seriously, they should be ashamed of themselves! Couple of greedy narcissists!
You guys are deed wrong. In for those who are visiting you with all those dam really it has to be something wrong with them
Psychos won't have any friends or family to visit soon enough. I know if I was shown that list I would simply remove myself from their life. I don't and wouldn't allow crazy people like that to be a part of my life. Toxic af!
Are you out of your fn mind . Your not the queen. I mean I understand about keeping the baby safe. But omg. Get real. If you was my family I would be telling you were you can go . And I mean straight to hell. I feel sorry for your kids when they get older .
Oh my! Please prevent future psychological abuse of your child. I beg that you and your husband seek mental health counseling.You are USING YOUR BABY for monetary gain. You are literally selling your baby.
Are you kidding me, way to push people away from baby and you for years, clean your own home millions of people before you have had to cook and clean after having a baby, especially single moms. Gifts are offered not demanded usually at a baby shower, loosen up your rigid rules or risk losing friends and family.
Oh my! Please prevent future psychological abuse of your child. I beg that you and your husband seek mental health counseling. You are USING your baby for monetary gain. That is abuse. I will keep your family in my thoughts and prayers.
This is so fake just to people writing on your Panda or blog! Lol The more absurd the story is; the more comments. Desperate measures or Smart move? Hmmm?
Keep holding your breathe for someone to come clean up your house. Key word YOUR house... That list is ridiculous. If u want to eat call instacart they deliver.. I guess you and your husband gonna be pretty lonely wanting a break and nobody will babysit. Yall truly will reap what yall sow cause God dont like ugly
You can tell that these two are first time parents. However, their child shouldn't be used as a cash cow. If this were me, I would tell them they could explain to their child why no one visits them. And I would block them. They are both money grabbing A holes.
These people are insane. Family out to cut them off. Not visit till kids a year old. Come clean your house,bring gifts. REALLY!! Ya,ll stuuup...d!!!!
The first few are about keeping the baby safe and I'm on board with that. After that, it went abrupty off the rails. This is narcissistic, greedy, and probably a little nuts. Yes, definitely, YTA
The weirdest part is that two adults agreed on that list. Not a single mother/father but husband and wife sat down and decided that that list made sense and then is looking validation on the internet. If that's not being entitled. Also, note the gift isnt for the child, it's for the mother). let's also put our visitors to work because we cant afford a nanny- again no need for a nanny- you take turns when you can. If you really don't want ppl to visit just say that on one sentence.
Ya greedy jerks how dare they demand gifts for baby and serious,y a gift card for the mom? Oh AND take out food or groceries? That is the most selfish SELF CENTERED BS ever. And the fact that the writer actually had to ask the question if she was in the wrong.... wow just wow don't see much hope there ....poor kid I truly feel sorry for that baby. That's like in a different universe of selfish and stupid!!
It really sounds like the couple has a very low opinion of both sides of their family. I really think the larger familues should agree to leave thelis couple isolated for as long as it takes for them to decide whether they want to be part of the family or not.
So, your family's coming to see the baby or clean your house and feed you??
Forcing guests to bring you food or groceries, is not appropriate! Limiting Visits, you should be thankful you have loved ones wanting to visit and help in anyway possible not everyone has that. No is no- GENERALLY I AGREE. IT DEPENDS ON THE SUBJECT. SOMETIMES AN OPEN EAR can provide you wisdom beyond your own experiences, and knowledge. Open hands can provide you with help you didn't realize you really needed. Open heart and mind Can provide you the love and compassion and comfort you need during hard times. So for this couple. Lighten up your list and please realize you are blessed to have those that want to be there and love all of you. Instead of restriction that are not truly good at all. May your little one have a full blessed life.
List.. I am an older woman that never had my own children so far as I haven't been blessed that way. Being said. If that blessing were to be placed in my hands I could understand some of these but not all. Positive list. Vaccines, time in advance, no smokers, 730pm - 10pm, social media (my brother did this one) due to the sickos out there so it's understandable. Negative list. This would make you loose those that love you and want the little one to be part of their lives. ------ Be more reasonable about visitation when it's scheduled. Advice from someone who's experienced can actually be helpful and maybe you'll learn something new. Everyone needs deodorant. You should be thankful that folks around you use it. As far as gifts go. A GIFT IS A GIFT, NOT A REQUIREMENT!!!! And Chores- It's your home, your responsibility. Not your guests. You can nicely ask if there willing to help, but don't require them too. That's wrong! Who taught you manners?
This can not be real. Surely the A**hole is just trolling. No one in their right mind would require gifts, food, & completed chores from visitors. If this is real, you'd have one less sister in your life. At least. Jerks. Poor kid!
Good luck to you and your husbutt inside your bubble, a-hole. Plus, in other hand, would be better just tell "no visitors" if the mom is facing a PTS or depression, instead doing this list of nonsense. People make simple things so difficult nowadays.
OMG! Are they from California? Those are some selfish pathetic people... Good God I feel sorry for their child! I would block them... and move on. Who raised them to in the first place?
Maybe this woman's mind was benighted over having given birth on Christmas Day and she thinks her son is some kind of untouchable new Messiah.
You guys are selfish and greedy your rules are stupid except people around you baby shooting be sick
Dear Mom and Dad, Speaking from Experience…I had 3 Children in 33 months, took only 1 month off from work for each due to No Maternity Leave, worked Full Time and Kept My OWN House. I agree with the Vaccine rule, the “not feeling well” rule, the not visiting or calling after 7:30pm (I get it with sleeping children) and not posting any photos on social media. The other rules you’ve made just go to show you’re Both on some “Power Triip”, using that sweet, innocent child to get your Family and Friends to do what you Want!!! It Sickens me! I can’t imagine what your wedding was like? That sweet college girl, only wanting to see her niece/nephew when she was home, offering herself as a “slave” to clean YOUR house and then denied because she didn’t have enough money to purchase a gift? You BOTH should be Ashamed. I can understand (a little) your Family Trying to put up with this Crazy behavior in wanting to see the child but WHY do you have Any Friends left?
I guess I just wouldn't be seeing this baby but loving my imagination on how cute this baby could possibly be........
How greedy can you get!? I was happy anyone came to see my baby because it meant I could pee without her crying haha
These self absorbed morons need to be put on time out. What kind of person insists on gifts, chores and additional gifts of food?
What about elderly relatives that are on fixed incomes and can barely take care of themselves much less do your own house work. You don’t allow them to see their great grandchild because I can’t afford to our a of your rules, which might be the only chance they have seeing that child before they pass away. Also I’d be making a copy of that list of rules so that when the child ask why they didn’t see them much growing up they can find out why.
I don't blame her for not answering back. That is ridiculous. Vaccinations, sure. You play with the baby clean up after yourself, sure. Bring me everything no matter your life situation??? Ya no. I'd block my brother too. Not everyone is rich.
Everyone is mentioning how unreasonable this new mom is: true, but did we forget the college student that can't visit is the dad's sister and the dad blocked his parents because they didn't approve of the couple's treatment of their daughter which is his sister? New mom and new dad are obviously suited for one another because they are both ridiculous. There is some deep dysfunction going on all around: from the new parents who are being unreasonable to the relatives and friends (if they have any) who have allowed this to go on up to this point. This should have been undone before it even got to the sister coming home from college.
You might as well put baby on stage so people can place $1 & $5 bills in baby's diaper. Some of your rules r great. However, u r selling, bartering, using baby 2 get free labor. Shame on u!
YTA is insufficient classification for this b***h couple. This isn't ancient Egypt. Shutting out the broke college student who has to save up for one pizza per month by eating bricks or cups of ramen warrants writing off that part of the family. If you can't afford a kid, don't f**k.
Wow, someone is have severe pregnancy brain and passed out along to the husband. This is out of control. Someone seem to be hugh bit entitled. Your ing to extreme to keep people away and get in your family's p They say no one should get special treatment but that what their doing, excepting special treatment. They're were some reasonable expectations but a whole lot of them where in left field. Especially telling people what share their medical history and telling people how to spend their money, and th required to clean when they come. Not even baby Jesus had these expectations and He is the King of everything. You're hearts are in the wrong place and you all need to check it. You'll put your business out here I hope you are truly open to hearing what people have to say. I feel very sorry for your family having to deal with your burden you're putting in them. The poor baby who when gets older my hear how his birth caused confusion because his parents lost sight of what matter.
These would be considered my psycho relatives and they wouldn't be graced with having me in their lives. They should be considered lucky if they have any friends. They sound like real selfish, self-centered jerks.
The only reasonable thing I can think is that this list of ridiculous rules is meant to dissuade people from visiting. That instead of telling people they don't want them to come over and that they want to be left alone with their new baby, they create a ridiculous set of rules that no one is going to want to fulfill just to interact with their baby. Otherwise they are just using it as an excuse to get all the stuff off their baby registry no one bought them because they either didn't have a shower (because covid) or they acted like TAH during the pregnancy so no one showed up to shower with the gifts they actually wanted. I know babies are expensive, especially the first baby but if you can't afford all the stuff you need just be honest with people and ask for help. Holding you baby hostage to get gift cards and baby gear is a total a*****e move and you deserve the lack of help you asked for.
Who died and made this baby God. I would never visit. Parents are just a little cra cra.
Mandatory gifts are a sure sign of arseholishness. Never mind anything else.
These parents really suck. Clean their home and buy them things. Wtf? Ugh.
The safety rules I can understand except the deodorant thing. The money rules are ludicrous. If this is a way to keep people from visiting genius. If your are serious. You are both out of you priviledged freaking minds. This may be your personal little miracle but in the big old world babies are born every second. You needxto come down off that high horse you are on. You're not the only one to do this and your kid is not the first ever born. If I was sis-n-law. I'd just wait to have my own little miracle and leave you to yours.
It's unfortunate, that the baby will be raised wondering if he's only worth the amount he earns his parents. Babbies give people a sense of wonder and a renewed faith in humanity. I hope they are far more kind to their baby then they are to everyone else.
she is in college its already hard for her stop use your baby as a cash grab
Wait till they need a baby sitter or help picking up from school or want a family member to attend a performance, etc. Those parents better watch out, might cost THEM some gifts, chores and takeout.
The only thing I can agree with is the non smoking. Most people will be decent enough to bring something meaning food. If you weren't such a d**k, people would want to help you more. I guess I can also agree with the no pictures on social media.
I am glad I am not in your family because it would be a very long time before I would get to meet your child. You should be ashame of yourself. People love to buy baby things and most will offer to help out. But you have done nothing that most women have done and that was to give birth.
REQUIRED to bring gifts AND food And do chores??? And for that you get an hour of these people breathing down your neck not letting you touch, cuddle, kiss or photograph your nephew/grandchild. Did someone write a holy scripture about that child? Screw you.
Wow, these people! I can understand the vaccinations no smoking and no advice but the free sh!t and a chore?! Are you serious? Who the f$#k do they think they are?!
If any of my friends or family had rules requiring everyone who visits to NOT ONLY bring a gift for baby, but ALSO food/takeout, a gift card for the mom and a chore… no way! You’re on your own! How’s mom getting three gifts and the child one, anyway? This mother will soon be begging any vaccinated friends or family to come sit so she can take a shower, eat or have a much needed nap. I hope they only agree on the basis that mom pays them with cash or approved gift card and a meal for them to eat while they are there. She’ll be so tired of no visitors and no help that she’ll probably agree to it. Heck, I would! I’m renaming you “clueless lonely mom.” Good luck!
I can only guess there must be some awful relative or friend whom these new parents are desperate to keep from visiting their baby under any circumstances. So they've invented these crazy, impossible conditions to keep that person away. They can't bend the rules for anyone else because then this dreadful figure will insist on that option for him/herself. They are willing to alienate everyone else in the family to do this, but can't explain why because the unwanted person would get wise to the real situation.??? The only other explanation is that they are plain crazy and people should be worried about their raising a baby at all.
Scheduling visits... I am great with that. Letting people know where you Baby's gift registry is... Cool. Mandatory gift AND food AND Chores... ARE YOU KIDDING ME??!! Just when I thought some of the younger generation cared at all about family and good friends, 😞 How disrespectful, rude and selfish - shame, shame, shame.
This is horrible that she wasn't allowed to visit the baby because she wouldn't give her cash or a gift card. The student had no money to give. She shouldn't have to clean to see the baby either. Wow I'm just amazed.
If I knew someone family or friend that demanded gifts,food,and household chores they would be on my timeout list until they came to their senses
The fam should start a go fund me for that kiddos therapy and possibly an attorney to assist with emancipation. Poor kid. Can you imagine the birthday party invites? 500 dollar entrance fee, gift registry at FAO, dress code and med records. What psycho douche bags.
Good for their sister-in-law. It isnt easy in college; Not everyone can even find employment afterwards. Rules are rules, but, their child sounds like a * total cash and chore grab*. Requesting Takeout?! ... LMAO! 🤣 🤣... Story Titled: 'This is why I never meet you, because in college I was broke and couldn't afford takeout' ... When their sister-in-law has her baby, I hope she allows everyone but them to visit.
Well thats just point blank selfish, stupid and ridiculous, maybe u guys are the broke ones asking for the extras
I find this scenario unlikely. Mostly because I can't imagine offering to clean someone's house under any conditions nor begging to do it in exchange for a glimpse of their baby, even if it was my nephew or niece. I can barely stand to clean my own house. Plus new parents are usually eager to show off their babies, more so than people are to meet the baby. And what are the odds of a baby being born on Christmas day and how is it even relevant? It could be real, but it's unlikely that anyone would go along with the ridiculous demands .
Uh, did they not have a baby shower? I get the vaccines, and smoking and limited visits but the gift cards and on demand required chores? Naaaaa! I had 3 so im no stranger to newborns etc.
And to block your parents because they disagreed with their greedy tactics? How absolutely childish. Dad and baby might both need a soother.
You need to do chores for me while not wearing any deodorant???? Let me know how that one works out for you! 🤣
I’d text back and say it’s too bad your child will grow up never knowing his/her aunt.
💯 YTMA (M= Massive) this post required a new level from the standard NTA/YTA rating. They are burning bridges faster than a CA wildfire. They would get n0thing from me in the future. No babysitting, no loans, no venting time. Then I would succeed heavily out of spite. Make so much money, set some aside to the nephew to get at 21 and develop amnesia to the point that I forget that they eVer e$isted.
💯 YTMA (M=massive) 💯 💰 grab. Not enough (_*_) ranks to give here. I would make them gr0vel before I ever helped them with anYthing. Babysitting? Nope. Crowd funding for big gifts? Nope. Need a loan? Nope. Wanna vent because you're sleep deprived/overhwelmed/teenager hates you? Nope. I would develop a serious case of amnesia and forget they eVer exi$ted....
Have to think no worries about those second visits. Has anyone made a first visit?
The only gift others will freely give are their Prayers for your baby. Pray that it had wiser parents and that God watch over the gift you have been given. Get down on your knees and give thanks for the gift of life you can hold in your arms. Not everyone, women and men, gets to experience something you obviously have taken for granted and as a hostage for your greed and power.
Congrats you just won the crown of the biggest "YTA". First of all who in their right mind would want to see your child when you have these rules. All your friends and relatives should set up a date to see your kid at high school graduation.
I would start saving for next Christmas/baby's 1st bday. Cuz nobody will send or give gifts to you or you child. You are poisoning your baby's world. Groceries and takeout and gifts and card w/cash and chores. Listen to yourselves. My son and his wife had twins, it has been a year and they still let me crash on their couch cuz they know I have a budget. I gladly spend the motel cost on them, help out with anything around the house and try to give them a break. My son is their care giver cuz his wife makes more money then he did. Its FOR YOUR BABY not for you. They grow up too fast. And you will have holes in your photo albums cuz you wont let people visit. Most people brings gifts, jeez, you dont have to require it. Shame on you. You are shooting yourselves in your greedy IMMATURE feet.
What makes her so high and mighty?? The rules aren't even that ridiculous at the hospital. I had twins right before Christmas and welcomed guests. I would make arrangements for a visit... And when I got there I would knock wait for her to open the door and slap some sense into her
Poor little baby. With idiot entitled parents like that. You know the poor thing will be friendless.
I'll give them the "scented" items. I'm super sensitive to fragrances and smoke, they trigger my asthma in amounts that normal people don't even notice. We're talking incredibly small scents. It's easier to say no across the board than to explain why I'm fine with April Fresh Downy but Mountain Spring Tide shuts me down. And you know what? I'm not even totally anyi-chores but not in this manner. You can't see the kid unless you pre-choose a chore? Nope. I'd be totally cool with new parents who said, "fair warning, once you're through the door we may ask you to swap a load of laundry," because babies are a whole lot of work and new parents need actual sleep. But my god, the gifts and gift cards and groceries? Jesus. When your kid turns 5 are you going to register for gifts? When friends sleep over will they be expected to clean the bathroom? Your kid is not going to have any friends at all if this is your attitude.
These people are greedy, over-entitled @$$hole$. No one is REQUIRED to bring ANYONE A GIFT, EVER. Nor, GROCERIES/TAKEOUT. AND, THEY SURE AS HELL DO NOT HAVE TO DO CHORES FOR YOU, UNLESS THEY ARE A PAID CUSTODIAN. .These people are freaks. I feel for that poor, poor baby, with "parents" like this. That poor kid will have no family, nor friends in his/her life, because his parents are outrageous JERKS! Go to hell, ridiculous "parents".
Requiring people follow COVID protocol is fine. Requiring gifts and chores for a visit is dickish.
If my sister acted like this i would probably never visit, but i also think differently than most due to being autistic, but yeah, parents are too extreme on this. Im not buying you food or gifts, thats what Christmas, Easter, Thanksgiving, Christmas, birthdays, and other holidays people might celebrate are there for. So unless its a party or I'm staying at your place, dont expect me to bring you food unless you are poor or incapable of going to the store. Times are rough for everyone, so not many people might be able to do all the things on this "Greedy" list. Not even my OCD grandmother who complains about everything is this bad.
ABSURD! They're not truly thinking of what baby needs, they're thinking of how much they can get for themselves! A newborn won't know if the house is clean,chores are done, takeout is left at their feet, etc... baby just knows if he's fed, changed, and cuddled. WHAT DISGUSTING PARENTS, I FEEL BAD FOR THE FUTURE OF THAT POOR BABY!
Ridiculous. What struck me the most was "treating everyone the same." That's not how family and relationships work. No one treats everyone the same. A close family member isn't the same as a casual friend or acquaintance. It's reasonable especially during a pandemic to limit in person visits and physical contact to a few people, like close family. These parents are already creating a barrier between their child and extended family. They may regret it later on when they need a babysitter or a break. And requiring gifts, food and chores is crazy. This couple has some serious problems with how they treat people.
I CHALLENGE THOSE GREEDY BEGGARS TO LIST ANYONE WHO HAS ¼ OF THE PATHETIC, COMPLETELY IRRATIONAL DEMANDS THEY ARE TRYING TO FORCE.
This mom should be ashamed of herself! No one needs to bring gifts or do chores! What a b***h and a horrid person!!! Selfish c##t! Cash grabbing mom!
Treating everyone the same is crazy. A close family member is not the same as a casual friend or acquaintance. No one treats everyone the same in all situations. Demanding an aunt pay a fee and ring food and do chores to visit with her niece or nephew is ridiculous. A relationship with extended family members benefits the child and gives the parents a break and this is a poor start. They'll regret their entitled attitude when they want a babysitter later on.
The most ridiculous thing I've ever heard of, who does she think she is Mother Mary just given birth to baby Jesus,. Insanity.
I would just never contact those people at all, like the sister. And that she offered to clean up Appartment? She should offer not to absolutely break ties
Yes, a new baby is fragile, but DAMN 😵!? Were they TRYING to alienate everyone?? Maybe if she'd swept the porch they would have let her have a peek thru the front door? It would be interesting to see how many takers they actually did have 😆 What about the 80yr old Grandma-if there was one--did she have to clean, too???Don't worry folks, next baby (if they have another), NOBODY is going to want to see it! And for the next family get together the assholes have to clean AND bring all the food AND gifts for all the attendees IF they want to come 😁 There are soooo many ways to make these jerks pay for turning a beautiful experience into a family drama. Good luck little baby ❤- you're gonna need it!🤗
I was right there with them until it got to the forced labor and tributes. As for not making an exception for a sister, that is silly. Unless they advertise the fact that they made an exception for sister in exchange for extra chores, a) who would know; and b) how petty are their friends and family that anyone would take offense. This baby better be pooping hold and diamonds for the cost of visiting it is so high.
The parents in the post are absolute garbage and should be ashamed of themselves
I have six kids and never once would I have forced people to bring me gifts or food or do chores for us...wth?!?! How rude and just WoW! Life is too short, what you gona do if your sister is in a fatal car wreck on her way back to college, then what, you never see her again because of some stupid ass rules that are totally inappropriate...think about it!! Don't take your family for granted, you never know what can happen....
Just, wow. To say OP is the a**h*le is an understatement. To be safe and want to keep your newborn healthy is very understandable, but to demand gifts, food, and chores as payment to see the baby?!?! Not cool. What entitled jerks. I’d hate to be related to them.
These people are buttholes. I raised family I raised five children and it was more important for me to see the relatives and get to know them than for them to give me gifts and do chores at my house this is just ridiculous I don't even know why I'm commenting
I don't have kids but most of this seemed pretty reasonable. Except for no deodorant (I understand the no perfume as it agitates my asthma) but those asshats Require a baby gift, a mom gift, free food, free groceries, and chores!?? Do these entitled pricks give birth to a messiah?? Jesus didn't even get all that!!!
They lost me at 'no is no we won't explain why'. Being unwilling to explain things and trying to shut down questioning before it can start is a major red flag that someone is being unreasonable. And of course, it just got crazier from there.
I'm at a loss for words for the selfishness, greed and using that baby for money, food, chores etc. I hope they like each others company because that's all they will have. I can only imagine the holidays.
All I can do is LAUGH. These people really got the game ******up. I mean did you give birth to Jesus. How many dumb friends do you actually have? I am quite sure they knew what type of ***holes you guys were before this baby. I feel sorry for this baby and the day he can invite friends over..
All I could do is LAUGH. These people really got the game ****** up. I mean did you guys give birth the Jesus. I mean come on. And question? How many dumb friends do you actually have?
If only boundaries were the standard then there wouldn't be so many whiners aghast that the buck stops where those with intact boundaries say so. I am all for parents protecting their little ones. Their goal was to limit and weed out unwanted visitors. And they did that. Even though they discovered that their choices left out someone they wanted "IN". Choices.
Did you even read the whole post? Demanding gift cards in exchange for seeing a baby is not a boundary, let alone a reasonable one.
Load More Replies...
No wonder the sister won't reply now you guys are ridiculous. What the hell is wrong with you people? That's the way you want to raise your kid to think that everybody has to pay you money to come visit you and has to pay us money and has to do our house work. WTF. I honestly hope you guys lose your family and nobody ever wants to talk to you
I was on their side the first beginning of the room list but immediately I thought for replaced wow just how entitled is this couple?! I don't know who they are to think they could demand gifts gifts are given not demanded! And then they added even further by including a cover charge at the door. Poor child is going to grow up thinking this kind of thing is normal And terribly alone
I'd like to get these people a piece of my mind they are just selfish and using their baby to get money and their housework done. That's f****** disgusting those people don't b'long having children
I'm sure their wedding was a similar grab. Those kind of people make me tired. And the no deodorant thing is weird. Maybe they have an uncle that bathes in Axe body spray or something.
I can understand asking visitors to help out in whatever way they can, I'm sure having a newborn is exhausting, but demanding money gifts and specific chores in order to see the baby as if the visitor works for you/owes you money? Wtf.
How disgusting a list of chorus I don't like doing my own let alone yours your baby your mess you bloody Clean it up, as for a gift you'd get what your given and be thankful that I'd spent MY money on a gift for the baby as it's the baby's birthday not yours! Yes you delivered. Baby just like hundred of thousands of other women had talk about using the child as a weapon poor kid growing up with parents like that probably his it's 20s and need therapy if I was the SIL I wouldn't visit and if I did it be to throw the stupid list in my brother's face lol bet they did alright of the birth of the child how could you treat your own family so disrespectfully and to humiliate and embrassing your own sister like that.
Oh so they are just complete assholes. I thought it was going to be a germ spreading thing. If the family who can't visit for THESE reasons, read this comment, contact me. I have some things to say on your behalf.. I was never like that. These people are just greedy pricks
In their defense, all this stuff is straight out of etiquette guides for visiting new parents. IMO their only offense is being explicit and rigid about things that most people really should be doing anyway without being told (obviously the scenario with the SIL is ridiculous). It's like putting on your wedding invitation that gifts are required: you aren't supposed to say it outright...but guests would be assholes to show up empty-handed.
This is utterly absurd!! The hurt his sister must feel is heartbreaking. These 2 are a joke. They gave birth to a baby NOT GOD while in their eyes he is their world everyone around them wants to love their new baby but he isn't their world!! I was on board with the 1st few: Vaccines must be up to date, cool, I would have added anyone with the potential of babysitting (grandparents) to get the whopping cough vaccine. No smoking- absolutely! I, also, would've added wash your hands and change your shirt. No late visitors is reasonable-- you're exhausted from having a baby, your body has to heal, and now you & your partner get to adjust to 0 SLEEP. No social media pictures I understand only until the parents state it's okay. Friends and loved ones should offer to get food, pick up necessities before coming over, and straighten up the house but if I'm being ordered to do it forget it- I'd see your kid in another lifetime. I'm a mother. I'm a grandmother. I'm also a Therapist.
Youre nuts. U expect ppl to do everything u want like bend to having a vaccine which is 💯 their own bodily choice in life. U need to just keep ur kid in a bubble the rest of their lives. That alone is absurd. Doing chores for u? Wtf do u think u r?! Pay for a mid idiot!
Thats outrageous. They don't have to do chores for you, do your shopping or bring you a gift. They don't have to spend their money on things that you can do just so that they can see your baby. It's a nice gesture for them to do so, but it shouldn't be an obligation. How can you think that those requests are reasonable?! The vaccines asked sense. Just because a family.memebrr smokes doesn't mean they should be banned from seeing the baby. Just ask them to not smoke around the baby or smoke until after their visit is over. If the do, ask them to make sure that they change so there is no risk of secondhand smoke.
Omg, how awful these people are. Also to put the grandparents on time out!!! Wow not one single person will get to know this child.
No perfume is understandable, no deodorant is strange. No pictures? Understand. Gift cards? No. Chores? No I could understand if they asked for you to pick up some groceries (that they pay you back for), but paying to see the baby plus free labor? No
It's very clear that humanity is at the end of this cycle and there are some people that just shouldn't reproduce and bring other children into this world. Baby you're no baby I tell this woman And her mate to kiss my ass and her list
Yeah I feel sorry for this baby.. You two need counseling. I'm sure it was easier to see baby Jesus...
Can we also talk about how her husband blocked his family and put them on timeout for reacting to her unreasonable requests?
100% YTA, bunch of entitled picks. Poor child feel sorry for what the future looks like with that mama. Hope she gets to streaming quick she will need to earn her keep and be a cash cow for them.
Just kidding! These parents have given their families something to laugh about for the next several decades. "Remember when he was born? Remember their ridiculous expectations?? hahahahaha."
Load More Replies...
This is so common anymore, the love and bonding families used to do with new additions is over, yes we know disease is spread easily to infants, yes we know NO SMOKING! But for the love of God! The rules, who the hell puts those kinds of demands to visit family? Does anyone remember what family is? Does anyone remember their own childhood, aunts , uncles Cousins? Weekends at the Grandparents house? What has happened to the human part? New parents today make ridiculous demands, make rules no one can follow to a T, then make visiting anxious and nerve racking that you are going to do the wrong thing. THEN, you start seeing the posts about "where is the village?" Why do my friends not visit or help out? I wish my kids had a good relationship with their grandparents, I wish my sister would offer to babysit to give me a break. Oh yes, that day comes and the parents start saying crap like " if you don't make the effort to see them and be a part of their life. It is all so toxic!
They say, "No one gets special treatment." They mean, "No one gets special treatment (except us)." :)
You are terrible people using a child like that and there is a very special place below for people like this family is family and to treat family like that is wrong no matter the reason I hope she never talks to them again and I hope the rest of the family puts them in a time out and never unblocks them
Oh I feel so sorry for that baby. Babies need interaction with family. Not just mom and dad. One day she'll wish someone would come and help her but nobody will be willing to. Hopefully the grandparents will have a forgiving nature when she does.
The Saddest part is,that more and more people are like this…. They pretend to want to have time with U,but it is have much money,gifts & so On U Can give…. Not U in Person…..
You know, the list was going pretty well - let us know beforehand, don't come too late, make sure you're vaxed etc... And then it went downhill from there. Why on earth would you prohibit your relative from seeing your baby aside from the above? Geez, I'd be mad too!
I'm getting a strong feeling this is a troll post. Safety and health rules are fine, even declining advice is fine. Treasuring your baby is fine but asking mandatory gifts and work service to visit is absurd. And the length of visit just probably covers the amount of time it takes to do the chores. Have fun in solitude
Sorry but yes, you're the a*****e. Rules like being fully vaccinated, no smoking, etc I can understand. But a gift is a gift and shouldn't be mandatory. A list of things you'd want or still need, sure, I can understand, but buying something should be a free choice. And doing house chores and buying food?! Seriously? Guests are guests not slaves. When someone wants to come yes sure you can ask them if it's possible for them to bring this and do that but even then a no is a no and in that case you just appreciate the fact that they are around. She clearly cares more about gifts and people doing stuff for her, then the actual person who's coming to visit. Materialism at its worst.
No toddler in the world deserves all that....kid doesn't even know themselves yet the parents are milking that for their benefit...from people who care enough to want to meet their own f*****g baby!! I feel bad for the kid...those parents are just toxic psychos in the making...
No vaccine, no smoking, no perfume, no visits at bed time. Ok The rest is just nonsense. I feel sorry for your relatives.
I'd be willing to look past the chore thing but being that stern on the rules to someone who can't afford it, if your able to be that unmoving to her then you can just tell anyone else wanting to bend the rules no, they shouldn't need to pay for it anyway.
It's just so greedy, the chores thing is stern but fine imo. It's a lighten the load thing because entertaining visitors can burden you, I get that just not the money stuff.
Load More Replies... This is just child exploitation in the most pathetic way, like they should actually be embarrassed. Not just ashamed, this is embarrassing for them.
I don't understand why the sil couldn't give a hand written coupon promising to treat "mom" to a girls day after pandemic and college. And a hand written coupon for the child for a visit to the park post pandemic. That would have been more valuable gifts. They could have asked for 1 apple as groceries. The chores thing, I really don't understand. Grocery shopping does expose you to contact with and possible germs of others. Thus possibly endangering the child. This "sterile" environment for the child is very harmful. No resilience is being built and they are setting the child up to be allergic to everything and be fearful of everyone.
I found this very rude. I am a mom to 1yo and we didn’t do any of this. People themselves are pretty understanding about time limits and they know they don’t have to touch the newborn. This couple is may be thinking too much about it and in return is taking out the fun of being parents and introducing your baby to the friends and relatives.
As I father myself I think it's all about not what you say but how you say things. The conditions are very much logical but people could know why some things have to be followed. I agree, anyway. No need to make an issue out of all this. For instance, "No Smokers". I think they really meant "No smoking". Etc.
This post makes me watch again the movie "What about, Bob?".
It's a baby, guys, lots of people have one or more, you know. What the hell is wrong with people?
These are getting so fake it's insulting. You won't bend a rule for your SIL and expect people to literally work and pay to see your child...come on try harder for the click bait.
This is 200% fake. Chores? She begged? The only thing one would do after reading this is laugh hard and stop talking to them, preferably forever. Do I care about seeing the baby? Nope. It's me being nice to the family. This is fake, but anyway, if they don't want visits, it's even better. They can deal with the baby themselves.
I don't know where you're getting that from. Politics has absolutely nothing to do with this.
Load More Replies...
I was thinking this would be all about keeping the baby safe and healthy and then, boom! Give me free stuff and work for me? Go to hell.
Exactly. The first sound very reasonable especially now. But the rest.....
Load More Replies... A few of those rules I can understand - no smokers, up to date on all vaccines, no advice (😂) - but pretty much all of the other ones range from stupid to cruel.
Yeah.. also strong perfume, maybe, but deodorant? You want your house to smell like a barn?
Load More Replies... I have a toddler, but this is outrageous. I would never ever use my child as a cash grab. Everyone is free to come and see, ofc, when you arrive, you should wash your hands, but what are you saying, is way way to far... To be honest, i feel for the young kid...
my son is almost 3 yo and when ge was born we restricted the visits per week, too. we just needed time in-between to rest and be for ourselves. I think we had people over 2, max 3 times a week. everyone was understanding, even before the pandemic
Load More Replies... hold up, if you're only allowed an hour for each visit, when would you have the time to even see the baby, between feeding the parents and doing chores? jfc
My thoughts exactly! After after all gifts inspected, groceries put away and chore done you can hold the baby as you walk through the house and through the front door, off with you peasant.
Load More Replies... This was a huge mistake! You want a broke college student ON YOUR SIDE! you WILL need a baby sitter at some point and everyone around you after all these rules will say "oh you NEED me too be around your baby now??? $100 an hour is what I will charge to watch your baby!" Broke college kid might do it cheaper. Selfish, entitled and all around awful people and i feel sorry for the baby. These people should not be parents.
We do not negotiate with terrorist. The grandkid will seek out the family at age 18 because trust me that kid will be to go! The mom acts like she is the only woman to ever give birth!
Load More Replies... So to be allowed to see the baby a person would have to buy mum and baby a gift each, buy you food and clean your house? My own kids hit my pocket enough I'm not paying to see anyone else's kid. If that means I don't see it then I will have less earache and more money. Bonus 👍
Right?? Wait till "cash mom" starts demanding certain holiday gifts or specific amounts of cash in a birthday card... No one is ever going to see this poor kid.
Load More Replies... I would make sure to move far enough away from them that they couldn't even think of asking in the first place. But if I lived close by, it would still be a firm "No".
Load More Replies... YTA. If i even have to explain why YTA, you shouldn't be breeding, you shouldn't have friends, and you shouldn't interact with any other human again, because you and your partner are self-centered, selfish, money grabbing, use-your-child-as-a-p**n dictators who wants everything their way, and won't even be reasonable for a family member who WANTS to interact with your spawn. I'm surprised anyone would want to buy you a gift from your pre-approved list (this point alone, get a life), I'm surprised anyone would want to visit your child at all, and I'd be damn surprised if any of your friends or family wanted anything to do with you and your child in the future. If this is the birth, can you imagine how insane and demanding you will be for the kids birthday? You need to check yourself, because you seem to think you're Beyonce or some other "me me ME!" celebrity. You desperately need to GTF OVER YOURSELF, apologize to all friends and family, and buy your sister a VERY nice gift. Prick.
I agree with 100% of this. Especially the first part about not having kids when you're basically a POS who thinks they're better than everyone and entitled to being treated like royalty just because they pushed out a baby... something women have been doing since the beginning of humanity.... why do some new mothers think they're so fucken special just because they had a kid. Like.. wtf? Also, I know I have my own interpretation of your words but I think we agree on a lot of things. lol.
Load More Replies... With that I mean why do they think they deserve special treatment just because they had a baby. It goes both ways
Load More Replies... This situation is so messed up, I genuinly can't believe it is real. Maybe some troll posted this on the reddit sub just for the reactions
That's exactly it. Reddit is full of crap like this, but on the AITA sub, it's against the rules to call people out on it- even on the ones that are glaringly obvious. Most subs don't have that rule, thankfully!
Load More Replies... I was absolutely sure people come to see a newborn just to show respect to their parents. I mean, unless you are the parents, newborns are pretty boring. What do even do with them? Hold them? Tell their mom how adorable they are even if you don't find them adorable at all? Not everybody would be willing to see your baby for free, let alone with gifts and chores.
I don't want to hold the newborn. That's too much responsibility. What if I drop them? Nooooo thank you.
Load More Replies... You can set any rules you like in your own home. I can choose to stay away from your home.
What is this? Newmomzilla? Cashgrab, greedy, and definitely entitled for not realizing it's totally a*****e move. I don't like to visit newborns, I understand new parents have some restrictions, especially those that are related to health reason. I am tired of reading post AITA while the answer is obviously no. But this, definite and utter a*****e.
I just want to let you know that if you visit me you should bring cheese !
Load More Replies... You think it's bad now think how oppressive it's gonna be for that kid later. You want friends to come over you gotta have your friends do cleaning for 45m out of the hour they are here. This is the family type that raise school shooters
To be fair, how much time do you need with a newborn baby?
Load More Replies... Yet more people thinking they're special for having a kid. News flash - YOU'RE NOT SPECIAL. You aren't entitled to anything. If you want to impose rules that concern your baby's safety, absolutely understandable. If you want to set visiting/call times for your own sanity/routine, totally get that. You get a gift, takeaway, helping hand round the house ONLY if someone offers first. You don't automatically deserve it. Ludicrous! And the poor baby might end up missing out on an auntie because of your selfish delusions of grandeur.
When I visited my best friend after the birth of her children, I volunteered to help with the baby and the housework. That's what family/friends do. She is in for a very rude awakening.
Load More Replies... Was there no baby shower? No care packages and gifts sent to the hospital after birth? What's the bet there was a reveal at 3 months with demands of a gift and expectations all along the pregnancy journey too. How disgustingly selfish to keep an Aunt from their new niece or nephew because they have no money to spoil the new mum with. I feel sick that there are people like this walking among us.
Gifts from a baby shower are irrelevant. Rich or poor, ya don't make people buy a gift. Part of childcare is showing them love. Thanks to your rules, the child won't know family love. He will sit in his room, alone, no friends. He'll will grow into a cold, emotionless loner. What will that child think of his parents when he discovers he was used for their benefit? You can't buy love... don't turn your child into a freak like you.
Load More Replies... YTA. This is probably the most ridiculous and self entitled garbage I have ever seen. You're charging your family to see your child? All I can say is wow.
I once read a story about another woman who had a baby on Christmas Day. Wise men from the East came to bring him gold, frankincense, and myrrh. Does this woman think that story is about HER baby? Wow.
I don't know who needs to hear this, but: your child is not, and never will be, the messiah. Most people don't even give a s**t that you reproduced, and our smiles are just us trying to be polite while we try to find an exit. Thank you for coming to my TedTalk.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 i have no words for this one.
Load More Replies... And this is how entitled new parents find out the world doesn't revolve around them. This is a very detailed list how to lose family and friends, or at minimum stain relationships. Let's hope in the future your child will repay you exactly same way. Making bank because you decided to o reproduce and create a piggy bank. I'm sorry for your kid and families. Simple Don't visit us due to pandemic, health and safety concerns of baby would have been sufficient. In the end of the day the child only needs one competent caretaker rest aunts/uncles/grandparents are good to have, but you clearly didn't want anyone to be in your life. Truly hope when you need family support financial or other ways, they will produce a similar list. Terrible people
As if it's not bad enough, the husband "puts HIS family on a time out and blocks them" ?!?!?!?! You'll be lucky if any of your family ever speaks to you again. I would have NO trouble writing you off. And don't come crying when you desperately need a babysitter.
Exactly! Put me on a time out or block me, it will be the last time you hear from this grandmother. They wonder why his sister isn’t answering, these people are beyond a*****es.
Load More Replies... When my daughter was born we had one rule. If Mum and / or baby are getting tired then that’s the end of playtime for family and friends. Anyone who wanted to visit always rang, they are considerate like that, most came with something nice for Mum to eat, they are considerate like that, no one smoked, they are considerate like that, no one arrived at odd or crazy times, they are considerate like that, are you detecting a theme here? Your visitors are a reflection of you, treat each other with a bit of respect and it’ll come back to you without any requirements for rules galore. PS The best gifts we ever got were an unexpected beautiful Lancashire hotpot that a neighbour made and my parents cleaning a chaotic kitchen when we were out for a walk with our daughter, the relief of a clean and tidy kitchen and tea being made was a joy. It’s the simple stuff that takes the weight off a young pair of parents! If you could gift sleep then that may gazump a hotpot though 😀
So delightfully put. My love for novels set in England made this even more fun.
Load More Replies... YTA. WARNING ⚠️ YOU'RE ABOUT TO BE ROASTED. Have you ever been broke and in college? Probably! And yet you aren't letting your own sister in law see her nephew after such a long time. Asshholes!!!! I'm burning up how you can be so shitty to family. And demanding gifts, chores,AND money? I feel so bad for your kid who you are using as a museum attraction! F**k you.
Looks like the poor baby just lost half his extended family because mom and dad are losers. They are already damaging the kids life and he has only just been born
you think you king and queen of boobshebaa?? you want tribute? you nucking futs or what? even it that was my grandkid i will not visit you or even want to see the kid. who the hell do you think you are???! bahaha..
This is not normal behavior. Do people like this really exist? The audacity...
She keeps up with that attitude and she'll be paying for someone to babysit.
He blocked and put his own family in a timeout after they confronted him, lol wtf? It's only after her family and their friends also tell them they're wrong, that they finally try to contact her. I guess the opinions of his family doesn't mean much. I feel so bad for that girl. I know I would cry if my brother treated me like that. I would avoid this couple at all costs.
When the in-laws got out of "time-out" I hope they informed their DA of a son that they spent the time at the lawyer's changing the will. You get nothing!!!
Load More Replies... My son was born on Dec 31st and literally none of these rules were even a thought of mine. If she feels she needs to outline these rules for friends and family she either 1) has shitty friends and needs better friends or 2) she is a control freak and will destroy her child's life and concept of what is acceptable in the world.
YTA. To be clear, it's okay to give a link to your gift registry. It would be a little weird to arrange your own "meal train," since ideally your friends and relatives would set that up on their own (not that you gave them a chance, because you demanded the food/meals in October when the baby didn't come until Christmas). A chore list is most appropriate to give to someone like your mom who has offered to come stay with you for two weeks specifically to help with the baby and chores. A list of rules is all right, although these are on the extreme side (and is there a typo in your visiting hours? No visits from 7:30pm-10:00pm, but midnight is fine?). The problem comes to a head when you combine all these ideas. I understand the impulse to plan ahead and try to keep everything under control when you're expecting a baby. It's a crazy time. But you went overboard. The worst part was how you and your husband reacted when someone couldn't meet the rules. Blocked his family...
and put them in timeout? That is so extreme, considering the "offense"!
Load More Replies... The sister-in-law should have told them both to f**k off!! Their kid is going to be a nightmare being raised by assholes! Seriously what is wrong with people!?
Some guy actually made a baby with this crazy girl... wonder what the rules are for sex???
Gifts, lights out, missionary only, and my bra stays on!
Load More Replies... Up until the entitled "give me s**t and do my chores for me" i was on board. Protect the baby, 100%. Let mama rest, 100%. Feed into entitled b******t? NO!
Buy their groceries for them and choose from a list of chores? WTH? I hope nobody showed up. Maybe they'd get a message. I feel so sorry for that child and how they will be raised. It might not go well.
Wow, what the A-hole. Must buy a gift or clean my house? F you. That poor freaking kid.
Nope, they want a gift AND the visitor to pull a cleaning chore as well. Which makes the jerk level even higher.
Load More Replies... YTA, if you don't want visitors then don't have visitors but expecting gifts bc you had a kids is super shitty, clean your own house, there are two parents in the house, it's not your guests responsibility to do your chores, the sad thing is most people would be offering these things to help out, but not when it's demanded.
You're charging people for bonding with your newborn? Do you care about your newborn? If something happened to you and the father do you want them to have no one else in their life? You want that kid to have people they can depend on and bond with that aren't you. It is best for the kid. This is selfish on many many levels. Not to mention, I come from a giant family where newborns were literally passed around between a giant group of aunts, cousins, kids, guarantee they all either smoked, wore perfume, they all wore deodorant, I'm all for caution, but this is just ridiculous.
This lady is crazy. If i was her family i would say good luck to your husband and you on raising a baby without family support.
At this time of the pandemic, I can completely understand about having a list, but the list is egregious. Asking for a gift card? groceries? Couldn't even bend the rule for the college student sister? Really? Wow. Heck, if someone volunteered in cleaning my house - forget those dang rules! I would be more than a happy child in a candy store. I don't blame the sister's avoidance. That said, I couldn't agree more with everyone - they're a couple of self-entitled cash grabbers.
Oh that poor child!! S/he will grow up "knowing" they are special and shouldn't have to adhere to the rules of decency because...well, mom and dad say so. Yes, it is okay to set realistic and intelligent rules such as being vaccinated and not coming if you are feeling sick or even near-sick. It's okay if you do not want people picking up the baby without permission. I can even let you set time limits for visits IF you are polite about it and flexible. However, once you begin demanding gifts, chores and donations...yeah you are an entitled a*****e. The SIL is a broke student, why should she be expected to bring an expensive gift? (You know the "want" list is for expensive things) This is the very definition of ENTITLEMENT.
YTA. You obviously think you're royalty. The entitlement is disgusting. This sounds like normal behavior for you, so I'm surprised anyone wants to come visit you. Poor kid!
If it was me I just would never see the child. That's ridiculous to take advantage of your family like that.
All this amounts to is two selfish people using a baby to punish their families for perceived slights. "Give Me gifts, not just the baby, food and labor". Please. I pity that poor child being raised by these two. Just wait until they wise up and want family to babysit. I truly hope the family gives them a list of demands.
This lady is nuts. She wants a maid and free gift cards because she had a baby. Even Mary didn't get this when she gave birth to jesus
Such assholes. I was fine even down to the social media part, but the gifts and chores? F OFF!!!
Huge overentitled AH! It's a baby not a tourist attraction for you to profit off of.
The first part was pretty reasonable. That was until she mentioned about the gifts, bringing food and doing chores etc. I think she's being extremely entitled, so rude.
YTA, what is you baby performing miracles to visitors? Does he have 2 heads? What’s so amazing your charging people to visit? No one is obligated to give you gifts. Wow this is so ridiculous. Reality check badly needed here.
I get "no perfume," (once had an allergic reaction to an ex's cheap stuff) but no *deodorant*? 🤨 Then it all went down to hell from there. Although I will point out this is one of the rare "AITA" articles where the OP actually *IS* the AH instead of a nice person having to put their foot down harder than they expected.
No, the deodorant one isn't unreasonable either. It's a fragrance thing. People have allergic reactions to deodorant contents too sometimes. I do - coumarin in particular.
Load More Replies... Whew, I was glad at the end when other people started saying yta. I was afraid for a minute
A psycho thing I noticed: When it was the in-laws opinions being given, the husband put his family in timeout and blocked them. But then when this oh so special wife/mother/jailers family started calling her out, that's when they reached out to his sister. I'm getting the feeling this man's family had had to put up with a lot from this woman and her delusions of grandeur. She seems to think she's the holy grail of women and the only mother to ever matter on this planet. I get the vaccines/smoking/time constraints (but even the time constraints where a little iffy) but to DEMAND a gift along with free labor?What the actual F*ck? She'll be divorced within 5 years and she'll make that man's life a living hell, along with that poor, poor child. Unless the husband thinks he's such a great catch too, that they came together and brought in the new messiah. Geez. Talk about wackos. I hope both of your families are too busy when you really need them since it's clear you want no love from them.
The family should get together and make a plan and write down all the requests and demands made by the parents. For future reference so that the child when grown and can understand why no family was around. Selfish, nasty, entitled, greedy, disgusting beings. That child will be disgusted at the parents. Careful cause you reap what you sow. Family take a pass and move on, block them for good and keep that written book handy. Wish them best of luck and move on.
These are the kinds of relatives and friends I've already kicked out of my life. I have nieces and nephews I've never met because my sister was a selfish c*** and started threatening to withhold visitation from people unless they let her have her way and bought HER stuff. Not stuff for the babies or necessities, no, just useless crap she wanted that she could buy for her bloody self at any time. I just never bothered with her or her kids, never had a bond with them or anything. I'm unbothered by that as I know that I dodged that emotionally compromised atom bomb known as their mother. Emotionally distancing yourself from troublesome people does wonders for one's psyche.
If these new parents were very young I could blame this terrible boorishness on their immaturity. As it stands, they're greedy pigs. They're not surrounding their baby with love but with simmering resentments. No smokers? How about wash your hands and face and no smoking during the visit. No pictures? So no treasured memories. I agree with no posting on social media but for themselves. What a shame. Food or groceries and chores. They were very very smart to add those. People naturally do this out of love. No one would do anything for them without being forced. Finally, not bending their inviolable rules. But they made the rules! The college student/SIL/new aunt sounds as if she was so very excited to see the new baby, and heartbroken to be denied, particularly for such a petty reason. These new parents should get on their knees and kiss her feet and those of the others they've treated like cash cows. This is the time for people to bond with the baby. They've ruined that.
Nobody wants to see that baby! They need to give me a gift card if they want me to come over !
I can find better words for you than a*****e. You'll lose your friends and family then cry about how no one cares and loves you and whaaaa!!
Gosh that poor kid will never have any friends and you can forget about the pta moms welcoming your entitled attitude. When i had both my daughters 20 and 26 years ago. Something would have never ever crossed my mind would have been yo ask my friends and family to pay yo see them or do my dirty work.....get off your butt's how the heck will your lazy, self righteous entitled attitudes,feel when your child grows to be the same way towards you? What a couple of clueless parents...missing the whole joy of this new life by throwing such a disturbing demand upon those that just want to bond with the new member of the family....i hope anyone of your family and friends charge you from this point forward just to talk to them and surely hope they never hand you anything for free again. My youngest is 20 and although she does pretty good with income would have most likely lost it and went anyway to see her niece or nephew ...aunties are special people that are close to siblings kids😔😤👎
YTA means YTA and we won't explain why. Mostly because you already know. If I got that list I would never speak to the sender again.
This HAS to be a JOKE? Are there really people in this world who think this is ok? They must be trolling?
You are SUCH the AH, and I don't criticize many, since I'm also flawed. Children are a blessing, not a power play. When will your selfishness end? At 1? 5? Ever? Think about it.
Is the baby named Jesus?! I'm sure I have some frankincense, myrrh and gold lying around somewhere!!
According to her comments it is real.
Load More Replies... How horrific! Many people will volunteer to help with chores & some will bring food (of their choosing, not yours), but it's never OK to mandate it! And gifts, by definition, should never, ever, EVER be required! That's not a gift, that's an admission fee & a hefty one at that!
I can understand vaccines and no smoking but this is too much. I wonder if another family member who recently has child would impose these rules on you, how would you feel? Next step will be asking visitors to contribute for your child's college fund. If I was related to you guys I would tell you where to go. Have a nice life.
These people are obnoxious and so full of themselves they will probably raise a horrid entitled little human.
Nope nope and HELL NO! Poor baby.... And this is why some ppl should NEVER be parents. Keep this s**t up and your child will end up not having anything to do with you 2 when they get older, especially when they eventually find out that you were using em for a money scam when they were a baby. They will learn to NOT trust mom and dad. I wonder if DSS would consider that as baby trafficking, using the poor baby for money scam and freeloading on friends(IF you 2 actually have any that is, and when you do actually need your family for something serious they gonna basically tell you to GFYS) BUT I guess you didn't think about the long term effects this would have on your child, your parents, your family or even your jobs. Quit acting like a typical Karen and grow the HELL up, you are a MEGA a*****e! BOTH of you!
These new parents are ridiculous. Health concerns are one thing, the gifts and chores are another. They're going to wonder why nobody visits their baby!!
I would have NO problem not ever seeing either of them or the baby EVER. I'd go so far as to avoid any holidays or any special occasion. I'd block them on all social media. I just would. I don't need them.
I feel sorry for the baby. Poor child will have one helluva upbringing. Hopefully he won't grow up to be selfish and greedy like his parents. With all the crap going on, family is the one thing we can anchor to and the parents are cutting those support chains early. Smh
I see this way different. What this couple is actually saying is that they don’t want Any Visits. At all. So I think they came up with all this wacky mess to keep people away. How easy is it to say’ Look, we really don’t want you to come. Please don’t ask ‘ but when you make unreasonable demands and make people Not want to come- mission accomplished
I understood about smoking even though I have nothing against smoking. Also understood vaccines and not coming if you feel sick and even the no calls or visit times. However...expecting people to bring groceries and clean everytime is beyond ridiculous! Who do you think you are?!! No wonder she isn't responding back! I wouldn't either! To have someone who is family and wants to see the baby, you should be welcoming them with opened arms! She is missing out on her nephew because of your SELFISHNESS! YOU ARE THE REASON YOUR SON WILL NOT HAVE MUCH FAMILY OR POSSIBLY FRIENDS GROWING UP! SHAME ON YOU BOTH!! Karma will get you both! Poor baby for having selfish people like you for parents!
Taking things a bit too far, me thinks. There are other ways to set limits and ask for help that don't alienate your entire family and all your friends. Poor kid. Parents are nuts.
These rules are beyond ridiculous and the fact that she doesn't see that is ridiculous. They want people to pay them to see their baby. I love babies, but I am going to be honest and say that they don't do much. So why is their child so incredibly important to warrant this type of behavior? I feel sorry for this baby. He's going to need to give his parents a gift card in order to be read a bedtime story or have to arrange takeout to be picked up from daycare.
Her comments on that thread are baffling as well. This is the kind of person you run for the hills from.
This started out as understandable, but insisting on gifts and people doing chores? Seriously?
I understand some like no smoking, up to date on vaccines, don’t come if you are sick. Some are confusing but I could swallow it down with difficulty, like No is no (give an explanation so the kids learn) and no perfume or deodorant (is someone allergic?) and you can only visit twice a week per person (ummm… ok?) and no visiting from 7 pm to 10 pm (some religious reason?). But the rest were downright idiotic and rude and entitled. You pay, you do chores, you follow all the rules, you be our servant, and in return you can see the child.
YTA! And where do you get your entitlement??? When did you ever pay an admission fee, buy mom and baby gift, buy food for mom/family, AND do a chore or more to see a family members/friends (do you have any? I'd be completely surprised unless they're like you) baby? Where are you from? You need a life lesson to be taken down a peg or two.
Hope this entitled POS isn't too surprised when no one visits. Even if I was wealthy, I'd absolutely refuse to visit, whether it was friend or family. If someone offers to do chores, or brings an gift, nice. But demanding it? I feel sorry for this kid. How many potential friends of his is she gonna run off with her behavior?
...........and then putting family in "time out" because they are supportive of wacko parents rules. WOW!
Wouldn't it just be easier to tell people "we don't want any visitors"?
These parents are either going to crack entirely or end up totally and completely without support, which if it's their first kid they're going to need a lot of. Also, why are you managing others emotions around your new baby and fearing cries of favoritism? That's not your job. You don't need gifts and free domestic help, you both need therapy. Badly.
YTA -few of those are fine, but the rest, chores and money is stupid. Also the in-laws put them in timeout. 🤣
Who even are these people... like they really exist? I'd pay money to gawk at them in a freak show.
Who even are these people... like do they actually exist? I'd pay money to gawk at them at a freak show.
This is crazy! Lol you want people to but you a gift and do chores? You know that they are there to see your child and not you right. Sounds like you guys are going to be very lonely 🙁
Ridiculous and entitled are just a few that fit these so called parents. Shame on you for turning a joyous event into a money mongering tool using your child. Your family and friends are wise to steer clear of you. I feel sorry for your child. Please let this be your only child. Children are a blessing, not a free pass to extort family.
These people are terrible people. Even the guy,his own sister ..damn, terrible ppl. I agree with the sister. She shouldn't mind them.she should make them realise their mistake
You know what pisses me off is the fact that the family was told time-out and was blocked not only is that childish but shows what kind of parents they'll be I'm sooo sorry for that child
If this were posted in any other place beside "AITA," I'd say this is a good way (albeit passive aggressive) to tell people who want to visit that you don't want visitors. I hope the family saves the list of demands to send the child when he gets older. Maybe it will explain to him why he has no family.
Funniest part to me isn't the fact that they have these rules. I can see plenty of parents thinking this illogically. What I'm amused by is taking the time to post publicly and actually ask the question "am I the jerk". Of course you are. Anybody who supports your thought process should be on heavy medication. Bad enough to be a jerk. Now it appears they don't have the self awareness to understand that they're being one. I'd respect them more if they acknowledged it and said "my rules, my way"
Those rules scream tone deaf and entitled like you wouldn't believe. Some people just have zero class or shame. They are 100% using that baby as a cash-grab. It was their decision to have a baby and now they expect society to pay them for viewing privileges. Shocking!
This would not go down well in Ireland!! Here, we have the mindset of 'it takes a village to raise a baby' everyone jumps to help ANYWAY, no demands or gift lists needed. This couple would be left on their own after everyone received their ' lists ' of conditions to see the baby! I feel sorry for their child, having greedy materialistic parents who value gifts and things over meaningful, genuine relationship's :(
Fr! Definitely @$s holes bring us takeout and gift cards and clean? What the absolute F∆€K?! You successfully banging is no excuse to turn family into indentured servants. They can't stay for more than an hour but they'd be cleaning the whole time. There's two of them and newborns sleep constantly. Bums. Your baby is not a commodity and you are so incredibly selfish for denying that child love because of limited money. I get vaccinations, limited interactions, etc. There's a panny on. But it's not about that at all. This is just gross.
You can "bend the rules" for one and JUST NOT TELL ANYONE. Be bigger than that.
1, 3, 5, 6, and 7 are fine and perfect. A few others can be acceptable if you have overbearing family that want to move in. Charging to see your kid? The zoo is more fun...
OH NO! SHE GAVE BIRTH ON CHRISTMAS DAY! SHE THINKS SHE'S THE VIRGIN MARY. They sent out their list of Requirements in October. What do we bet she was induced or had a preselected cesarean section so her SON would be born on that day?
Interesting thought but I don't think the doctor and hospital would schedule a birth on a holiday.
Load More Replies... I was on her side until the forced gift giving and chores. My son was a micropreemie so some of these rules I truly understand like not too many visits. Our NICU suggested no visit from anyone for the first month. Bringing food to new parents is always appreciated but not required. I don't understand why they wouldn't let the baby's aunt to even meet him.
What a crazy b***h 🤣 I hope you end up divorced and alienated from everyone--kid included!
The rest of the family must have been desperate to see that baby if they actually came through on these stupid ass requests.
Sheesh, MY sister only asked me to get my flu vaccination shot first! (This was pre COVID).
I can understand not many visits; and the health stuff. But even so a vaccine doesn't prevent Covid from getting into the home ... maybe tests before visiting would be an idea? But telling someone they can't wear deodorant! And expecting them to do chores for you and buy you takeout groceries and gifts so they're allowed to see your baby. Nope. What kind of people do that? YTA YTA YTA i would personally never speak to you again - not the mind of people I'd want in my life! And putting his family on a time out? Haha! No you'd never hear from me again. Self entitled egomaniacs
the first 4, maybe 5, made sense. but other than that, really?
you and your child will be very lonely millennial......can this generation get any more moronic
Did you know that in the US, Christmas Day is the rarest birthday? The next least common are January 1, December 24, July 4, and January 2. September 9 is the most common birthday.
Have you and your husband lost your minds? I feel so sorry for your child.
LMAO ......mom, mom listen mom, your in a time out. You can't come over, you cannot see your grandkids and even though you raised me, loved me and taught me to be a responsible adult your advice now is unwanted. If you want to get off time out, apologize for giving us advice, go get a prime rib with asparagus and bring your cleaning supplies. Yes we have cleaning supplies mom, but your the one who must clean our home in order to visit. The least you can do is bring your own cleaning supplies. And please mom don't bring anything that is generic. Top self stuff or just stay home. Now when you get here I'd like for you to get started on the bathroom and dad needs to get started on the garage. When you are done cleaning and cooking that prime rib your bringing maybe we can just sit and visit for a while. If it's not too late when your done with your chores and cooking that is. Now the baby goes to bed at 8 and I would prefer you not get here untill 6:30 or 7 after all we need our alone
both parents are def entitled... and AH... fair to ask for a few of the those things... but VISITS do not automatically get a chore done and gifts... If I am visiting and I have gifted already I AM NOT GIFTING AGAIN... and I will HELP with something, but expecting it? NOPE... hire a maid
I reread this list. I think this family is delusional....their new baby is not a member of British royalty.
Is thus for real? Who does this? Seriously gifts, chores this is psycho 101. I have neverchearscof anything so ludicrous in my life. And there arev2cof them that crazy? That poor child doesn't stand a chance. You can't see the baby unless you fork up a gift? Who seriously does that?
...the same greedy lunatics that charge wedding guests for their food! They are obviously insane, entitled, and DISGUSTING! They should be ashamed to admit they asked for gifts! Both her AND the baby! Dear Lort!
Load More Replies... People like that should be barred from having children. It's an obvious messiah complex- they believe their kid is somehow Devine...this is why I won't have kids. So I don't turn into despicable people like them.
Wow! If I was a friend or family member of their’s I’d cut ties pretty quick! Sounds like you’re trying to open a zoo but with a tiny human. Wrong on so many levels.
I don't blame the sister for not responding. It was so cruel to turn her away like that. This couple was probably acting like this before the baby was born which probably explains why nobody held a baby shower for them.
Ehh is George Clooney the baby daddy or what? Having people in your lives who want to visit your baby is a gift in itself... asking for gifts and chores and groceries, its so cheap it's cringe. And your sister in law offered to clean your whole house to see her new baby nephew, that's love.. love is supposed to be free. You guys are a joke!
Poor kid to have parents like that. Have to give a gift = broke as s**t parents. You have to clean there house = Lazy as f**k parents. Good luck when the child turns 1 and no one shows up for the birthday party if you even let your child have one Just wait till the kid turns 2 taring up your house. I would love to see that. Your burning Bridges with all your rules.
Most of the list is honestly reasonable. In the modern era of Covid. With the exceptions of the cash/gift card mandatory gifts, while having to bring food and due chores. This is just a baby. It isn't heir to kingdom that requires tithes. From the local serfs.
Why is it people today act like they're the first and only ones to have a baby? What the hell did you think women did for the last 400,000 years? The couple is nothing but greedy, entitled AH. If I got a list of rules like that, and hey you idiots, not being vaccinated or feeling sick stay home is common sense. But bring you a gift and the baby, and bring some food and do a chore? My response would be to kiss my a*s. And no I wouldn't come see the baby at any time. Sorry that baby will grow up to be as big a jerks as his parents.
Holy s**t... I've met psycho assholes in my life, but those two are on a next level. No smokers... LOL, like anyone would smoke next to the baby. All vaccines done -> what about people who can't be vaccinated for health reasons? Ableist b******t. Chores done, food, AND gifts??? Don't you want a massage and a personal chef on top of that? Who the hell do you think you are??? Complete AH and I really do feel sorry for the baby... are those two even mentally capable of raising one?
YTA & a big one! Why can’t your husband go shopping etc?! I wouldn’t visit you!! I feel sorry for your friends & family!! No way would I pay!! I’d probably bring a gift but what I want to buy!! I’d also wear deodorant!! Are you gonna sniff my armpits?? Your kid is gonna have a hard time being in the real world!! Your supposed to get your kid used to smells etc! You sound psycho!! The vaccines I can see but the rest, you are NUTS!! Please don’t have any more kids!! You are just being greedy!! Good luck with anyone visiting you!! BTW, does this apply to grandparents???
I spect this will be a very lonely child, parents too prob'ly. Only two visits per week? Can't make bank that way. So, I gotta book this visit a week in advance, bring food and dress to clean your bathroom. Let me get a slot after 10:30 pm second Tuesday of next week. Thanks. Whats the price of admission and should it be gold or murr, fresh outta frankensence.
You gave birth, so to visit, the family must worship you as a procreation Goddess - laying "approved" [entitled much?] gifts - and gift cards, at your feet, they must bring [and pay for] your groceries, they must do your chores, they must also bring you "the takeout you like" so they can have the delight of visiting for an hour to bow before your holy vagina, and welcome your tiny poop factory to the world. YTA.
Adhearing to rules about times, advance notice, vaccines, health issues, no photos on social media, not picking up the baby without the parents' consent - that is perfectly, 100% acceptable. Everything else on the list tells me your baby will become a spoiled little monster.
Load More Replies... YTA. If you want to limit visits, then simply LIMIT VISITS. Your a damn adult. If you don't want someone to visit, simply tell them no, this isn't the best time or that you're not ready for visitors or just, I don't know, no thank you. THAT is how a mature adult takes control and limits visitation. What YOU did was exploit your child, family, and friends for your own ridiculous, entitled selfish reasons. Some of these AITA you can tell they really were honestly an inadvertent a**hole but not this one. You knew you were being an a**hole. You said so when you declared the reason for this pathetic list was to limit visits. You literally told us you knew this was so ridiculous that people would actually stay away. 100% YTA.
She's basically making her baby a side show that you have to pay and work for to see like wtf. I had strict rules for anyone visiting my baby but they were all health related rules because he was born a preemie and stayed in the nicu for a month, i can't imagine demanding gifts and housework that's just greedy af.
That's one of the craziest things I've ever heard! The new parents are going to find that no one in their family wants anything to do with them anymore. You don't get to insist on a gifts as payment for meeting your baby.
Is that baby a celebrity, because that's a hell of a cost to see it! I hope they're begging people to come visit when everyone ditches them in abject disgust.
Wtf is wrong with people today.. a chore list haha these people are of a different breed or something.. this literally blows my mind.. humans are evolving and not for the good.. this story can't be real and if it is that poor kid has no idea what life has in store for him/her.. like what in the actual **** is wrong with these people
From one mom to another, What are you thinking? I understand the vaccines, the smoking and perfume and maybe some deodorants but good lord are you both disabled that you would ask people who visit to clean? I am a mom of five, raised 9 total with my 4 step children and never did we ask for ppl to bring food gifts or to clean our house we did it ourselves. A baby is a joyous addition to any family never turn it into a circus unless you want to lose every friend and family member you have
Not only are YTA but so is your husband for going a long with this ridiculous c**p! Putting his family in time out I mean what the hell! Grow some balls and do the right thing. I understand how exhausting it is to have a new baby. I have 6 children and I have never thougt of making my family and friends "pay" to visit my children. WTH is wrong with both of you!
They don't have the guts to say we don't want anyone to come over instead they made a ridiculous set of rules. I'd have been a passive aggressive a*****e back, especially at 20. Plus made my entire family aware of the s**t she's pulling, and why I cut them out of my life.
Is this real? Sometimes it's hard to believe these are real. I'm undecided. If your friends decided to arrange a meal train for you that's one thing, but you don't get to demand it yourself (plus maid services) as the price of admission to see your "eighth wonder of the world" baby. So absurd it's quite funny!
What is shame that this beautiful baby and that guys sister don’t get to enjoy the beautiful relationship of Aunt and Nephew or niece. Those parents should be truly ashamed no wonder his sister is not responding. My heart breaks for his sister and that child.
Absolutely insane set of rules. This is not about keeping the baby safe….this is a cash grab and a total control situation. Awful mom. Poor kid! I actually knew someone kinda like this years ago…we did NOT become friends. Her poor little guy was jerked around and slapped every time he did something to displease her…he was TWO! 😖
Enjoy your kid all by yourselves!!! No rules, other than baby safety are important. These parents are beyond annoying and deserve NOTHING! How spoiled, self centered and entitled can parents be? Not really a question!
I had two kids, who are now in their late 30s and early 40s. In fact my latest grandchild was born 4 days ago, and she has 7 older siblings! But, we lived a thousand miles away from my family, and at least 1-1/2 hours from my in-laws. We hadn't lived in either place long - two medium sized cities - either time our kids were born. I didn't know many people, and we had very few visitors either time. My family traveled by car to visit their 1st and 2nd grandchildren, and my mother stayed a few weeks to help. My in-laws came to visit of course, but my husband's grandparents showed up totally unannounced on Sunday morning, assuming for some reason at 9:00 AM that everyone would be dressed and presentable, and the house would be spotless, a week after I brought the baby home, and I was on crutches living in a townhouse apartment. (Don't ask - it would take a book to explain.) To demand "tribute" like that would have NEVER entered my mind! Gifts are GIFTS - not the price of admission!
The OP and her husband = complete arseholes. Venal, grasping opportunists. I wouldn’t blame their family and friends if they cut that nasty couple off for good. I just feel sorry for the baby.
Reading these restrictions & as soon as I got to the gift card I was finished with the new parents. Then the next one saying whoever is visiting has to buy you food & clean your house… If I was related to them I definitely wouldn’t see them or their any time soon. The poor kid’s gonna grow up isolated & friendless.
People like these so called parents are what's wrong with the country they feel entitled for having a child that they are definitely using as a cash grab heres an idea get up and clean your own house expecting someone to bring you something is a good way to be left with no family or friends hopefully when child becomes old enough they leave because the world doesn't need more like those so called parents more like jackasses
Is this an American thing? I have never heard of anyone making a list of do's and dont's like this, or any list come to think of it. Vaccines I sort of get, but who would visit a newborn if they were sick? Everything else is just psychotic. Only stay an hour? When my daughter was new, she screamed her head off for hours if she wasn't the centre of attraction. I would have PAID family and friends to come and visit for as long as they wanted just for the chance for some decent sleep.
OP is TA. You wanting protection from disease is fine. Charging an admission fee in housework, groceries, and money? Screw you! The sister who's a college student and yet begged for a chance to see your baby will likely never want to visit you or your children~~EVER. Any crap you throw in the future will only alienate relatives. I suppose anyone coming to holidays or birthday parties will be demanded a "mininum" gift of $50 or $100 or just don't show? You are setting your kid up to being both an entitled brat AND extremely lonely.
Wow. This is just so off the wall! They are pretty much charging admission to see the baby. Yeah. Sorry. I would definitely not waste my time on going to their house . What a bunch of horrid money hungry people. Gift card for mom and gift for baby?? And bring us groceries!! Yeah. I say YTA!! Definitely
Wow. That is just too much. You want a gift card, groceries/takeout, chores done for you and a gift for the baby? Girl you need to get a PHD to be charging those kind of prices for an hour....or become an escort.
This first time mom is off her rocker, greedy and want to be the center of attention. Unless the baby has health challenges, a normal baby needs contact, not sterile environment! I always think of what happen to the big pig farms that are closed environments, sterilized and sanitized so much that if anything ever enters the animals have no immunity to even reasonable minor bacteria or viruses. Unless the mom want to raise a baby in a bubble... Well she better get off her high horse and stop acting like an idiot.
I’m having a hard time believing this. So their visitors have to bring a gift for the baby the first time, not that big a deal. The strange request is they must bring food AND do a chore around the house. Like what, do the laundry, scrub the floors, clean the toilets? Come on, who would really ask or expect that?! Feels like it’s a fake post.
Wonder how the parents are gonna feel when they desperately need a babysitter and everyone says no because of this stupid "list".
You need a mental health check. This is ridiculous. You are alienating family from your child, and will be teaching your baby that unless someone gives you what you want or does exactly what you tell them to do, they aren't worthy of being in your life. That's sickening and very sad for the child. The only 'rule' that even makes sense is if you feel ill, don't visit. ALL of the others are just plain rude and none of your business. What are you planning on sniffing everyone's armpits while checking their vaccination cards at the door? Get a grip.
It'll be hard to find a babysitter when they learn THEY have to pay for someone to show up and care for their kid.
Disgusting!! I'm shocked they even have people who WANT to be around them!! I wouldn't!!
Do these parents actually have visitors DO these things?Screw that!! I feel very sorry for this baby and future friendless child [can you imagine the list of rules for birthdays or sleepovers?] I'll watch for a documentary about it...killer children...why children bludgeon their parents.
So, you gave birth to the Messiah!! Congratulations. Now, learn from Jesus' mother. The Wise Men brought gifts voluntarily and there were farm animals present. Despite being born in a barn, Jesus made it to adulthood and was around family and friends through his entire life to the end. My guess is that 'Precious Jr." will be a very lonely child.
Well that got weird.. quick. I was on board with vaccines, no smoking.. started to get weird at no deodorant and finished with a " no one will ever come back after cooking cleaning and paying homage to your entitled asses" Good luck trying get a sitter for a night out when you're frazzled and in desperate need of 2 hours of adult time. I personally would do a once courtesy call and never go back.
Most of their list is so ridiculous - they don't deserve the sister in law in their life. It's unfortunate for the child as it's not his fault his parents are AHs. One of the rules really baffled me though (don't get me wrong - they are mostly ridiculous)... No calling or visiting from 730 pm to 10 pm... Don't visit during tv prime time, but once that's over, feel free to visit or call all night long? Wtf?
The first couple of rules I get and understand. But the other ones. This woman is using her baby as a cash business. Someone needs to call CPS on this woman bc she's using her baby for monitary value. What if when the baby is like 12 she pimps her out or worse. This woman is dangerous and nuts. She needs a wake up call. Everyone in her life needs to slap some sense into her. If they can't see the baby, but so be it. This woman needs everyone in her life to cut her and the dad out of it. Bc no one demands those rules of anyone. It's nuts. You don't demand people to clean and cook for you. That's the thing people usually volunteer. It's no wonder she probably didn't have a shower. She probably demanded the gifts at that too. This woman is def a delusional jerk who needs a. Huge reality check. And if she wants family in this kids life, then she better apologize to everyone bc if she doesn't she isn't going to have anyone left in her life for the baby to visit.
Does daddy pimp for a living? I would hate to grow up as the child of (or any kind of kin to) parents who sell time with their kid.
That is so entitled it's sickening. Why do these people think they have the right to make up rigid rules for other people like that? "You can only stay an hour", but then most of that hour will likely be taken up with doing a chore! And the treatment of the sister? They'll be lucky if she ever visits them again, thereby depriving the child of a relationship with their aunt. Idiots. Ugh.
Wow that kid is likely to be an insufferable a*****e when he grows up. Yikes. 😬
You must realize that absolutely everyone you know is making fun of you and laughing behind your backs...if not directly to your face. And you deserve no less. You will come out of this friendless and alone. Nobody likes users...you even stoop so low as to use your own infant. The only gifts you should be getting are books on Etiquette. Ugh!!
You are DEFINITELY the AH! You should be GRATEFUL that you have family and friends in your life who are excited to share your joy with you -- not emotional-hostage cash cows! The audacity of your greed and stupidity boggles my mind. How many people in this world would LOVE to have that kind of support system around them. AND YOU TREAT THEM LIKE THIS?!!!!!!
Usually I don't like it when the family steps in, but these two absolutely deserved it, and each other. I hope they don't mind that they've alienated their whole family and what sounds like a loving aunt.
Poor kid. He’s definitely going to be an a$$hole too, so no great loss.
Yeah, I don't wanna see your (literally) stinking baby ANYWAY, so now I have some awesome reasons not to...
Both you AND your husband are asses. This does not appear to be about the baby, but how much you can milk your friends and family for. Your poor child is going to grow up to be an entitled ass with no friends or no idea how the real world works. You don't deserve friends and family and certainly not your sister-in-law and I'm shocked you have any to give your requirements to. Who do you think you are? Mother Mary? Not even she acted like this. Spoiler alert: You aren't that special, nor is your child.
They really need.to apologize to the SIL any EVERYONE ELSE. And also return funds spent to anyone who visited. I had twins out the gate. And did not expect half of this nonsense. No smoking wash hands don't kiss on mouth... WTF else do you need. I melted my heart when friends and family bonded with my kids. They are 10 now and the people who visited back then have the closest bond with them now... Plus what if something happens to your undeserving asses? What would happen to the kid? Did you think about that when you made your self centered list? I hope it's not the SIL cause if tell you to shove it!!
I was with them right up until the gift list, take out, and chore list came up. There is a reason they put that last. They are definitely the A@@H&^%.
My thought is although Parents are trying to keep the Baby safe physically is either Parent thinking of the emotional outcome of the Baby and teaching the Baby to grow to Love and Learn opposed to teaching the Baby to take advantage of People? If their Baby grows up doing this it is going to be hard for her/him to make friends Get along in School Get Jobs and relate to People in general! He/she will not even understand why this is happening to them because of the self entitled way they were raised! So Sad!
Wow! I'd be happy to never have contact with these neurotic, greedy people again! Good riddance!
I think the parents went a little overboard what are they doing while the visitor is cleaning their home and are you reimbursing these people? You should be grateful someone is taking time to visit the baby. YTA don't deserve friends. 8 would tell you to go to hell.
Bwahahah isn't it she's so dense to asked if she's the as*h*le in this situation. I wouldn't visit them even if the world collapse. Then wait for them to ask why no one cared to loved or visit their first born. It will come eventually that their "cash grab" will backfired to their kid.
Baby Daddy, better hope they never split up, he's gonna have to get a cavity search, a background check,, a credit check as well as present a solid gold brick and clean his exs bathroom everytime he wants to see his own kid... And don't lie yall KNOW, SHE came up with those rules and he just shook his head and went along with it, cause living with a woman like that must be TERRIFYING! He probably has to strip naked, burn his clothes,, get sprayed down with the hose, detail her car, show his vaccine card and hand her $100 everytime he enters the house. And GUARENTEE she doesn't work... probably never has.
Way to teach your child to only love, value and appreciate those closest to them by what they have to offer them... you're not raising a littlr selfish narssasist or anything!! And I'm sorry but the fact that yall had to ASK "AITA" tells me just how desnse you are!! And fyi the people closet to you would prob bring gifts and food and help with chores regardless (I do for My best friend who had a baby in dec.) But it should be done out of LOVE, not a forced stipulation! This is an infant and their family NOT a peasant meeting royalty and even the royals wouldn't ask people to do this crap!! Why do women like this reproduce?! When it's clearly impossible for them to think of anyone but themselves like why bother? So u can use ur kid as a p**n?!?!
These people sound like they are going to make horrible parents....they are probably going to home school their only child and it will grow up spoiled and wierd
I would like to know what her parents think(the grandparents) if I ever acted like this my mom would have set me straight so I don't act a fool!! We all can agree that some rules and boundaries are needed especially if you have a big family, but this is entitled childish behavior to expect presents and cleaning. I would even go as far as those who would do those things to help a new baby wouldn't if it's expected.
If I could I would call child protective services. You definitely don't love your child to use the baby to extort gifts and services from your own family and friends. Talk about emotional manipulation. Praying that you loss custody of your child.
Apparently the baby won't have any visitors until she is a teenager then by that time she will be very far behind in social skills and immune system antibodies. Good luck in raising it with no friends.
You must make an appointment to see the child. You can only visit for an hour. You must complete a task. Such time constraints. And how much of your hour, after completing the task, will you have to visit with the child?
Vaccines fine but you as a new parent took your rules to a new low in the times now you expect gifts, food or your household chores done no as a good parent you need to already have groceries and chores done. Pretty sad day when one expects much even from family who didn't require it before COVID. Shame on you.
My friend's first child had rules like that. Vaccinated against whooping cough etc, this is before Covid. No shoes In the house, sanitizer, minimal handling, no sick visits and certain laundry detergent. Turns out the baby had a reaction to different peoples clothes. I feel understandable given the world today. The grandmother wouldn't get the DPT shot. But no paying toll for the baby AND the mother, blackmailed into cleaning. This is twisted.
Definitely wouldn’t be going there to visit with all those crazy demands. Enjoy your solitude, buying your own groceries & cleaning your own house. No one owes the mom a gift card for having a baby. That’s crazy. That’s a lonely life they are carving out, pathetic.
Alienating the baby in the most important years if their life from loved ones and friends who will be a part of that baby's life for many years will inhibit binding with other people and it will also curb the baby's natural inquisitive nature and sociability to be in a society full of people. It could make the baby antisocial. They are like sponges and absorb everything in the first 5-7years of their life, starting from birth. Even before birth they hear sounds a d voices and can identify them. After birth they see faces and mimic the looks on the others faces and repeat those when they see those faces again. This is a form of communication already installed early into us as humans ability to be social. When they don't see new people and don't see them often, their amity to differentiate between different people and expressions are curtailed and hence their social amity are diminished. In some cultures the whole village will carry the baby for the first 5 years. Don't deny your baby.
What a freak. Poor sweet baby. Don't know what planet these people are from... what a waste of space.
The people who made all those rules about their baby and who can do what need some serious mental health help. Their thoughts are very unhealthy.
These rules are ridiculous period. I understand wanting people to be clean, healthy and safe, but people who are coming to VISIT should not have to do chores whether you have babies/kiss or not. That's absolutely ridiculous. That's using your child/baby as an excuse to make other people clean YOUR house, it's just ridiculous. It's not everyone else's responsibility to clean your home and buy you groceries and it's crazy. When you visit friends and family your not supposed to have to clean and go food shopping for them with your money in order to be able to visit a FAMILY MEMBER or FRIEND. These people are just ridiculous.
Most of these rules make sense. But as for requesting take out that's ridiculous. Requesting to do a chore that's just rude most people will offer. Bringing a gift the first time a little bit more understandable, but rude. I do not see what these things have to do with keeping the baby safe. The mother should already have the house clean if she wants her baby safe. Good people will offer. it's just rude to ask or insist. And obviously the mother herself did not go to college as the sister-in-law is because she cannot even spell the word College correctly. I'm just saying.
I would never talk to them again, you want gifts and food work for it, you want your house cleaned, get a maid.
Honestly, you guys do you. One day when your child grows up, he will move far away and you will not ever see him again. People who are so self centered and undeserving never get to keep their children in their lives. You may not learn this lesson for another 20 years or so, but when you do, it will be too late. I had friends like this and their children moved as far away as possible. They never get to see their grandchildren and are never invited for holidays. I have 2 boys and 5 grandbabies. Only see 3 regularly because the other mom is psycho! Those children are missing out and so will yours! Gifts required, free labor, I bet this is all the mother's request! B**ches Be Crazy!
Your child will grow up an emotion-less loner. Babies need love. Will a gift hug them or smile? Sounds like you're prostitution your child who has to be paid & serviced before seen. Blocking family is an action kids do. Do you make people stand in the corner if they don't clean correctly. Your child should be removed from your home. The child needs human contact, not gifts. Shame on you!
My grandson was born during the pandemic and for a number of times that we saw him in the beginning we were garbed like hospital staff. We weren’t allowed to hold him for a few weeks either. I understand all that. It’s necessary. But what does keeping the child safe have to do with giving the parents free things that have nothing to do with the baby? If they keep this up their kid will have no family to be close to. And perhaps no friends either. And in the future their child will have only their example to follow and may turn out just as selfish. How could anyone alienate family like that. They will be lucky if any of their family members speak to them again. Sorry this is so long but I just got so upset!
Poor kid. Not the first to suffer from a psycho mom. And that's just the beginning. Clearly the father is subdued by his wife and won't defend his baby from her behaviour. Relatives won't be visiting much, so no protection there. Looks like we're witnessing the beginning of a child psychological abuse case. The seeds are there. Who's going to protect the kid from psycho narcissist parents? As an ex abused child, heads up. These are the red flags....
A twenty year old can not afford to buy lavish gifts form your registry regardless if she's a student or not. The fact that she offered to clean your entire house, for free, was a mature and generous offer, just to look at her nephew for a few minutes, ( it doesn't seem that you'd be allowing anyone lots of time with the baby), and you had no problem telling her no. Apparently you have no idea how much you've hurt her feelings. She was probably very excited to be an aunt, only to be denied access to seeing her nephew because she didn't have enough money. And you seem surprised that she won't return your moot attempts at what...an apology? What's worse, is denying your son the ability to bond with his extended family. No apology will ever fix that. It's sad you couldn't find it in your heart to let your SIL meet her new nephew.
This is one of the most ridiculous things I’ve ever read and honestly I can’t decide if i think this is a troll or not. You might swindle parents with this bs, maybe, but I can absolutely assure you that no one cares enough about someone else’s baby to do all that to see it. Buy your own s**t people don’t expect others to fund the child YOU had. I mean I really don’t even know what else to say to the rest. Oh yea. “Timeout”??!!!??!!! 😂🤣
Some of these rules are fine, but the rest are just downright stupid. Gifts for the baby are what baby showers are for. And even then, they shouldn't be mandatory. And do your own chores, b***h.
I started out agreeing with your rules, but the more I read, the more I got offended, and I don't even know y'all! How dare y'all tell people that must bring you and the baby a gift, take out, groceries, and do chores, that rude beyond belief! Ms. Manners would give y'all a stern talking to, and how entitled can you get?! No one has to do anything, and what y'all decided were your rules, are actually voluntary if a person wants to or not, not a demand. Does your baby talk in multiple languages already, do gymnastics, or anything that requires an admission fee? No it doesn't, so y'all get of yourselves. I personally would've sent y'all a picture of my middle finger if I was your sister in law, and told y'all that was my gift to y'all, not the baby. Y'all could've eased up, and not try and force her to do these ridiculous rules, because she's family, and she's young and in college, and no one would've known, if no one told anyone else. I hope your happy losing family because of gre
What idiots those parents are! I would have told them, "Fine, I choose not to be a part of you or your child's life. Please do not call or try to get in touch with me. I will not sit with him when he is sick, I won't babysit, I won't send birthday, Christmas, or wedding presents if he ever marries. In short, forget that you ever knew me."
First of all I want to point out that it is NOT only the mother but the father too. He didn't like the criticism from his parents and gave them a "time out" and blocked them. All of this just goes to show how immature these parents are. Did you know that the healthiest children are the kids who grow up on farms?? Your demands are Absolutely ridiculous!!! If you were my own son or daughter, I wouldn't come for a visit under these rules!!!! I feel the most sorry for this child. His/her life has already started out terribly with his/her own parents selling views of him/her for their profit. I feel so, so bad for this child. This child is not a welcome addition to this family; the mother and father think they own him/her and can profit from having a child!!!! Poor, poor kid!!!!
Is this the second coming of Christ? Seriously, they’re twisted. Your baby’s not that cute.
Is this baby the second coming of Christ? Seriously; you’re twisted. Your baby isn’t that cute.
Some rules i can understand though like vaccines and no smokers but the rest are stupid
Work for me and give me gifts like I'm your queen then see my baby for an hour
1) too many "no" rules 2) that's alot of mo ey in comparison to they stay. And a chore which will take. Up to half the time they are there. 3)so you need to purchase at least 2 gifts and a pile of groceries spend potentially gas money for said groceries and gifts as well as foe the trip to theor place and back home. The. You have to do a chore than takes from 5minutes to an hour. 4) you have to do all that just to sta for a maximum of ONE HOUR. YTA not to mention it's not just a money grab. It's horrifyingly excessive. This is entitled A**H*le Bulls**t. Not just that the mother is a NARCISSISTIC piece of S**T she probably gave ber husband an ultimatum to make him go along with that or he's just a pushover. possibly even a pansy. If then the dude has some other issues. I feel sorry f OK the broke college student for having such entitled Pr**ks for Family.
As everyone else has implied, a lot of the rules are fine and totally understandable. But expecting guests to brings things, especially groceries and gift cards, and to help with chores? Who asks these things of their guests? I've never heard of such a thing! Look at the baby's aunt - she can't afford to buy anything. Instead, she offered to do extra chores. Of course she shouldn't have been expected to do chores in the first place just to visit her nephew. Another thing - what if someone close to the family who'd be expected to visit ends up not being able to because they're physically unable to do chores of any kind? How fair is this to those people? I do understand the need for staying away if sick or if you feel like you're coming down with something, as well as some of the other rules. I am in total agreement with those rules and no social media posts. But demanding gifts and guests doing chores? Nope!!!!
Great. I would never see that baby then. I would have given a GIFT by myself, but if ask me to get them gifts from this store, PLUS do grocery shopping(which we know can get pretty expensive in itself) PLUS do a chore, F**K THEM! Did th3y give birth to the baby for me and others or what? They are the parentsy its their responsibility, and they cant EXPECT anybody else to do their job. Ive never heard of such entitlement. Disgusting.
Yeah. You and your husband are Terrible people. Treating family like servant's
YTA She was willing to clean the whole house for you lazy greedy people to see her neohew, yall suck big time
I want to use this opportunity to tell the whole world on how I become rich and famous. I’m 93 years old. I was passing through difficulty in business and there was no hope of me coming out of my debt. I borrow money in my bank to do my business and I run at lost on the business I got frustrated and decided to be playing lottery to see if I can win and make my business grow and I have played for years now nothing good is coming my way on till I meet someone online talking about Dr Ayoola on the internet. He was taking about how this Dr Ayoola help him to win mega million lottery game. I said to myself if this is true and decide to contact him and told him to help me as well I later read more about this man and see how he has been helping people all over the world. I have faith in him and choose to work with him. After working with him he told me what I need to do for the number to be given to me which I did after he finish working he said I will have a dream and the number
review to me in the dream. That night has I was sleeping I dream a number immediately he call me and gave me the same number I dream of and ask me to go and play the number. Today I’m here testifying of the good work he did for me I played the number and I won the sum of 1, 000,000 million dollars in a lotto max. You can contact Dr Ayoola for help if you want to win big in lottery game he has the gift of giving right number contact him today and thank me email him today Via email: drayoolasolutionhome@gmail. com or https://www.facebook.com/Dr-Ayoola-105640401516053/ text or call +14809032128
I want to use this opportunity to tell the whole world on how I become rich and famous. I’m 93 years old. I was passing through difficulty in business and there was no hope of me coming out of my debt. I borrow money in my bank to do my business and I run at lost on the business I got frustrated and decided to be playing lottery to see if I can win and make my business grow and I have played for years now nothing good is coming my way on till I meet someone online talking about Dr Ayoola on the internet. He was taking about how this Dr Ayoola help him to win mega million lottery game. I said to myself if this is true and decide to contact him and told him to help me as well I later read more about this man and see how he has been helping people all over the world. I have faith in him and choose to work with him. After working with him he told me what I need to do for the number to be given to me which I did after he finish working he said I will have a dream and the number will be revi
Somebody is kind enough to take time out of their busy life to come over and see their baby and THIS is how they behave?? I'd tell her to shove her baby right back where it came from. What a psycho.
Not are yta, I'm glad someone in the family is going to school and getting an education. It's very obvious you or your SO did not. I would tell you to go f*** yourselves so quickly. To think she BEGGED to see her nephew out of LOVE!! You need to look that word up in in the dictionary. Yall are the most entitled, selfish, non-caring humans ever. I feel so sorry for this child.
For the sake of the baby, please get counseling. This extremely rigid adherence to the rules and insistence on treating adult family members like children with "time out" show you are not the kind of parents who will raise this baby into a healthy adult. Have you even stopped to realize that the day will come you need to treat this person like an adult who can make his own decisions and have his own personality? Who can make mistakes without turning into a neurotic mess? Or do you want him to charge you money and make you clean his house in order to see your grandson? Do you want him to put you in time out when you suggest he's unreasonable? No internet comment will fix what is so deeply wrong with how you interact with other people. Please get therapy if you see this child as anything other than a tool.
Not only are they a$$holes, they are delusional. I'd laugh my behind off at that list and not gad about seeing that baby.
Dear merciful God in Heaven, I wish this couple had never procreated. That kid is going to grow up so f^@ked in the head, it'll never survive on its own.
So if the idea was to keep visiting to a minimum, did it work? Or were the only ones who couldn't visit people like your sis in law?
I was agreeing (tentatively on the smokers, because they could have just said, "Please don't smoke at our house") and then I saw "bring (me) a gift card and baby a gift from our approved list."...Was she an only child and hubby just wished he'd been an only child?? And then to demand food and chores?? I'm sorry.....What sense of self importance has been imbedded in these ones?? Did your child come out as the golden baby, pooping out solid gold pebbles all day until 7:30pm when the factory gets closed down for the night?? See, in my family, we automatically bring food and gifts, EVERY time we visit. And we will clean a house without asking, because a new momma's tired. But using these as a requirement to even meet or visit?? Their child wasn't born with a silver spoon, so now they're trying to con the family into supplying the utensil. There are other babies in the world, and even though all kids are special, one specific child spitting up is not worth the price of admission.
...and they're going to wonder why sil (and hubby's entire family) prefer the kids they're allowed to see AND why no one will help them out if they need it. "We need a babysitter. You'll have to pay for our night out and completely scrub the house from top to bottom - before we leave so you're not neglecting Damien.," "What do you mean you can't babysit? That's what you've said the last 2000 times we've asked you to babysit."
Both the husband and wife backing each other up and reinforcing this lunacy. What were the odds these two obnoxious nuts would find each other? They will drive their kid nuts with stupid rules and restrictions too.
YES.....YTA.....as an only child married to an only child the fact that you ask your precious relatives to kiss your a*s-ets, empty their wallet and scrub your floors because you have a baby make me physically ill. You are blessed with family who _want_ to bond with your child and you think that list is an ok thing to _demand_ from _family_!?! Wow. When that baby gets sick in the middle of the night when you and your entitled SO are dog sick with the stomach virus de jour...who are you going to call for back up? The people you were so rude to? The people you felt owed you groceries and maid service? Yeah....no. Your family owes you nothing. YOU on the other hand owe all of them an apology and an invitation to come to see the baby _empty-handed_!!! Actually.....I should reconsider.... your ntas because you are MEGA-AHS! Just.....damn.
If my own daughter came up with such an entitled money grubbing ridiculous list, I’d tell her to shove it & send the kid to see me when they’re of age & no one is demanding physical labor, money, food, or groveling before the queen as admission. Want some gold, frankincense & myrrh too? You obviously think you’re the mother of Jesus Christ himself. I’ll give you the vaccines & no smokers, the rest is rubbish.
I hope that these parents soon write in about how HORRIBLE their family is for not providing free childcare and demand that they buy their child birthday presents starting at $1K Tell babydaddy to clean the house and order food online. Disgusting how entitled parents can be.
I think they think they are special. I love kids but it’s a baby for crying out loud. That’s it!!!! Not some God or Queen. I say no one should visit then let them pay people to come see the baby.
Some are for the kid's health, but the bringing gifts and doing chores? Have a tea party with satan recently? You're no better than the parents who use their kids for fame and glory. Yuck.
I thought vaccines up to date can understand, but gifts, takeaways and household stuff NO WAY JOSE who the he'll do they think they are fgs
They’ll be lonely and the kid will be unsocialised. I bet, hope, nobody visits these greedy tyrants.
But wasn't the point to *minimise visits"? That's what she said. I think they made this demanding list so people would get all bent out of shape and refuse to come. Result! Nice one! Hey, husband, it worked!
They are so IN the wrong for demanding visitors bring gifts and food and do chores non of these are ok nobody should visit
They’ll be changing their tune once baby is older and they want to go out baby free from time to time. No free babysitting for you.
🤣🤣🤣Omg I laughed until my sides hurt. I strongly suggest they start looking for a good therapist for their kid, now. They're gonna need it💀Maybe they'll find one that takes GIFT CARDS!!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣These people are straight up delusional. I hope nobody comes to visit them bc that poor baby isn't a sideshow. Whomever it was that said they are charging admission is absolutely right! What the heck is wrong with these people😂 Oh boy, I've officially heard it all.
OP might want to think about going to school themselves since they can't spell college...and seriously demanding gifts and/or gift cards?!?
She's lucky that family want to come visit. The father's side of my daughters don't care and don't ever visit or ask about them. A bit my family too! How ridiculous, you should be grateful so many wish to be there for you! That's real community and then to take advantage like that? 🤦♀️
YTA! You two shouldn’t have reproduced you are jerks! You have the most selfish reasons for your rules that don’t have anything to do with family or bonding. I feel bad for the Aunt to your child. He is not your possession, he is a gift for you to share Not to charge admission.
How did mothers in the 1960 - 2000 ever make it having children without blackmail labor and gifts? My parents both smoked and passed us around every chance she got. This mom will live to regret running everyone off. Especially when she needs a break from baby and housework? Nobody will help her now
They have to be related to K.Schwab because that's some N.World.O crap right there. You will buy only what I want you to buy me and like it, you will be enslaved by us and like it, you will have nothing by the time you head back to college and like it. 😆 Can someone also tell this chick she doesn't have some magical fortress between her legs that allows her to produce 14K gold Faberge babies... Please and thank you✌🏻
Well Lady Muck demanding like a queen & yer man had better wake up.. Your already saying No well baby just learnt it from you when its at terrible 2's it will all come out yelling Nooo... How do you think your parents & grandparents do all chores rear children & have time to bond it was no silver spoons given out.. Surely you get child allowence to buy your food on maternity leave...family support by now is out the door good.
Wow I didn't realize there was so many ways to use a baby as a p**n 😭
the gypsy mentality conquers the whole west; they use their children for begging and sell them.
Load More Replies... Is it me just me or does anyone else think this isn't the moms doing but the new dad.Trying to keep control of things including his wife in the guise of protecting her and the baby. He is the one that wrote the list and sent it out months in advance that's a controlling action when you feel like you have no control.Then to say no even when the sister in law asked he was the one I believe convinced the mom that they shouldn't bend the rules for his sister, and when the parents had a go at him he bans them. No I think its the husband who's TA for thinking any of this is a good thing and dragging his wife and child into it. And she's the one concerned about being TA because I believe even she's starting to see that the list he wrote went to far.
It's probably the mom.... And not the first to tread that "control freak" path where they claim to know what's best and finally get to play real "house", and won't listen to anybody's advice, etc. ... If that's already not healthy, this one took it too far. Dads normally dont go control freak on their new babies, and especially don't use the moms to do their dirty work. Some moms can get very annoying with their entitlements and "wants", but most keep it within their 4 walls. Normally as the dad is subdued by the female lawmaker, he normally takes the role of making her not look so bad to external people and excusing her. This is a toxic relationship that shouldn't have kids in the first place.
Load More Replies... These newbie parents are narcissistic sociopaths!!! I sure hope there baby doesn't turn into them!!! Your baby isn't Jesus Christ!!! You both should be ashamed of yourselves, using your baby for free gifts, food, and a free maid!!! Wtf!!! You both are not entitled to the world to bow at your feet!!! If I was your family I would tell you to kiss my ass you materialistic, Narcissistic sociopaths and to grow the f**k up!!!
I don't know if its just me but I get the impression that most of this is coming from the new dad and he has convinced the mom that these things are reasonable. He made the list and I think its more about his control of everything including his wife under the guise of protecting her and the baby. The list so far in advance of the event, saying no to his sister and banning his family I think its him who has the issues. And she loves him to much to see how wrong some of what is on the list is wrong.
Probably not. That's reaching and victimizing the abuser.
Load More Replies... They should be ashamed of themselves! Asking for a gift card for the mom and gifts for the baby. Then food and cleaning their house. Did their 1 newborn turn into Triplets where right now they need that kind of help. Seriously if you couldn't afford to take care of your family and clean your house you shouldn't have a child! Go see a therapist and get some serious help!!! So sick!!
I was on board at first, but then it got to the gift part. I get bringing a gift for the baby, but the mother demanding one?? It started out pretty reasonable. I do agree with the no smoking and no pictures on the internet, but demanding chores and money is just out of line. I get wanting to have help around a newborn, but DEMANDING it from people who want to visit is crazy. Why not have the husband help clean? I understand the pain and trauma involved with childbirth but the level of entitlement is mind-boggling. Yes, every mother needs time to heal and rest, but this is just crazy.
Holy Cow, this is a joke, right??? If this is a real life scenerio........YTA, and then some! Wow!!!
Cash cow. Idc what they say. I would never be that bytch to tell people this is what you're gonna do. Smfh.
This is gross. I'd gladly cut off anyone from my family who was like that. I can't believe some people are this self entitled. 1. Not one person owes you anything just because you had a kid. Why on earth would they expect a friend or family member to just willingly do chores for them. Sure it's normal for some close family to offer some extra help here and there while visiting but it should never be expected. Why would you demand a gift for both mom and baby. How selfish can you be? You think you're the first person to ever have a baby?! Get off your high horse, my god. You're stopping the kids aunt from meeting their niece or nephew for the first time over something so petty. Honestly I hope for the SIL sake, she just cuts ties completely with those toxic people.
I am absolutely impressed that in the entire population of the world, these two like minded people found each other...I am sad that they made a baby that they can torture...
I have a hard time thinking someone could actually do that. And when his parents messaged her and got it off their chests, the son says your in time out and blocks them. I wonder how strict the parents will be when this child gets older? Yep, I would disown my son if he ever did that to me. Here’s your $1 when I die. Honestly I raised my kids to be more respectful than that… this is just insane!
Wow, pure greed and selfishness. I would write the entitled jerks out of my life. And say good riddance. Wait untill they have a need for friends and or family. I hope everyone tells the selfish, holier than thou jerks to take a hike and block them from ever contacting them again.
This OP and her husband can go straight to hell on a rollercoaster. I wish I would buy gifts, groceries and do chores to visit a baby. This ain’t the birth of Jesus. Ma’am. Bye.
Did they have a baby shower and get the gifts that were important? If so, I think that they figured they didnt want to get multiple gifts that they wouldn't use, and it would be helpful to bring gift cards and also food and supplies that they would need in the first few months, and that helping by cleaning would be better than getting 50 receiving blankets for example. The concept, if presented properly, is a good one but this couple sounds as though they are not flexible, OCD, and just too impressed with tbemselves. I would guess that the husband's family has been putting up with all kinds of bulls**t from him since he was a child, and was allowed to get away with it because it was exhausting to the family to deal with it. Don't know if the wife/mother justs goes along with it because she doesn't have a choice. He sounds bipolar and they need therapy and mental health treatment for this nonsense.
I miss the sane world where people had lots of kids and didn't worry about germs nor ask for gifts. You got 1 baby shower, for the first child, because it was assumed you would use much of the same things for the subsequent children, or you would work to provide for them. Kids shared clothes and bedrooms, and probably the occasional sickness. Horrors! No masks either. Ah, sweet freedom. And lots of relatives coming and going too. It was a great life.
Ringling Brothers Circus Show, price of admission to see the Baby! You would have lost me right there permanently, true colors showing. How terribly sad for this child's life. These people need help or DCF down the road for intervention.
Those two are nuttier than fruit cakes. ! Pay and do chores is this baby made of gold? Everyone in that family should stay far far away! How freaking ridiculous its all about money and things! Using your baby for personal gain! What losers!
Like did you not have a baby shower or registry where people could buy you gifts and send to your house. When I had my two children ( twins) I usually had my husband go buy groceries on his way home from work. As for cleaning the house weekends me and my husband would take turns playing with babies or feeding while the other did some chores around the house. What you’re asking for is selfish and are acting like entitled waste of human space. As for the college student I feel for her. I mean my brother was in the same situation and he was just in a different state who barely came to visit and he used all his money to come home for the holidays to see the family and meet the babies. I told him sure just make sure you are up to date on vaccines and get the flu shot and wear a mask around baby. I agree with the comments about going to hell. Some parents don’t deserve to be parents and your two of them.
You are definitely an ahole! Simply remove the ridiculous rule that people must bring gifts for everyone. Most people will bring a gift for the baby anyway, as that is the norm. For the parents? You two have some serious issues! Just remove your stupid rule of gifts for parents, and friggin house chores, and people may want to actually come visit. If that baby was one of my four grandkids I wouldn't visit until you two idiots realized how absurd you are! Good luck to that poor baby with you two as it's parents......
I was totally on their side until i finished reading every rule. I can already see the overprotection and it feels like yall using ur baby to get money and gifts like wth
They just want money, gift and help. Even from a broke college girl. To hell with them. If I'm also in the ladies shoe I won't reply them again, at least for a long time
Absolutely ridiculous to force someone to bring you a gift or your baby a gift it's their choice if they want to bring you a gift it's like telling someone they have to buy you a Christmas present do you get a present if they feel like giving you a present and to ask him when did chores come visit you or see your baby ridiculous do you have to do a tour to go visit them you can limit how many visits per week or for how long but I would make an exception for someone who doesn't live close and can't come back for 6 months I would let them come visit before they left it's ridiculous to tell someone they have to bring you a gift and they have to do a chore that makes you look like you're a psycho. You act like you're royalty you want them to bow down and kiss your feet two when they get to the door. You can ask someone you know please only visit once a week, or don't stay longer than an hour that's fine but other than that your list is ridiculous yeah I like it's a privilege to come see yo
So really you want family and friends to pay you to see your baby 🤔 To clean your house to see your baby🤔 to provide you with items and food to see your baby. Yeah yall have really lost it.... Then have the nerve to have this young lady actually begging you and going as far as willing to clean the whole dam house and you still say no because you can't get the cash Sounds hard up for cash to me
They are both asses. There is no question you need to set limits with limits to visits & times bc newborns are just scrumptious & people can over stay their welcome. I also believe in asking not to kiss baby on or near thier mouth. If they smoke ask them not to have recently & to bring a clean, smoke free tee to change into so if they hold your baby you don't get them back smelling like smoke. Smokers are nose blind & don't seem to realize or remember that smoke clings to your clothing. Or keep $5 tees handy if you want to have peace of mind. Asking anyone not to come by not to have the sniffles should be a given but nowadays being vaccinated should also be given. Argue beliefs another time. When you have a newborn & family or friends visit they often ask (mine did) if we needed help with anything around the home or would give you a quick chance to take a hot shower or something. If none of them do then limiting visit times & length is absolutely called for bc your already tired...
& hosting adds to this. BUT making gifts, gift cards, groceries AND fast food orders AND chores a must is too much. Not everyone has extra money to throw around. College students even less. They come home with all their laundry & usually take groceries from the pantry back with them too. Lastly do you want to have to explain to your child when they start asking the reason why Gma, Gpa, aunts, uncles, cousins etc arent close or don't come around is bc of YOU?!?!
Load More Replies... You’re husband is a shitty brother for allowing it. You’ll soon regret this when you’re in need and you are charged for all the help you get. I’m sure you’ll be on here complaining about that too.
Do my grocery shopping, bring me gifts and do my chores !!! WTH!!! Plan to be lonely and get off your sorry ass and do your own chores and grocery shopping. Sounds like you're prostituting your kid. These people don't deserve a baby.
When my daughter had my grandson, the only rules she made were no visitors for a couple of weeks ( my grandson was premature and she had a C section and they both needed to rest) and that everyone be vaccinated or wear a mask and of course, not to come over if they were feeling unwell. Anything that wasn't gifted to them they went and got themselves or ASKED for it if someone asked them what they needed. My grandson is healthy and happy because all of his family members are allowed to contribute to his care and well-being whenever they want. Children who are raised by a caring "village" are some of the happiest, well-adjusted people and it sounds like this baby is going to be deprived of that. His parents are really selfish.
Just wait. The kid will live at least 70 years. You'll eventually get to see it. The parents are being quite self-centered.
Wrong ..you people are something else...crazy....poor child to have goofs for parents...
Shame on them. Ppl have been having children for eternity. That isnt baby Jesus. Shame on you both!
Yeah you and our husband is too much by insisting on a gift or chores. Respect your visitors a little. The rest I can understand, especially the no picking up baby and kissing without consent (paediatrician Archana's licence here needs to be questioned since she's supposed to focus on infectious part), as adult germs could easily get a newborn sick. We enforced this as well for our newborn after advise and research.
These people are disgusting! Seriously, they should be ashamed of themselves! Couple of greedy narcissists!
You guys are deed wrong. In for those who are visiting you with all those dam really it has to be something wrong with them
Psychos won't have any friends or family to visit soon enough. I know if I was shown that list I would simply remove myself from their life. I don't and wouldn't allow crazy people like that to be a part of my life. Toxic af!
Are you out of your fn mind . Your not the queen. I mean I understand about keeping the baby safe. But omg. Get real. If you was my family I would be telling you were you can go . And I mean straight to hell. I feel sorry for your kids when they get older .
Oh my! Please prevent future psychological abuse of your child. I beg that you and your husband seek mental health counseling.You are USING YOUR BABY for monetary gain. You are literally selling your baby.
Are you kidding me, way to push people away from baby and you for years, clean your own home millions of people before you have had to cook and clean after having a baby, especially single moms. Gifts are offered not demanded usually at a baby shower, loosen up your rigid rules or risk losing friends and family.
Oh my! Please prevent future psychological abuse of your child. I beg that you and your husband seek mental health counseling. You are USING your baby for monetary gain. That is abuse. I will keep your family in my thoughts and prayers.
This is so fake just to people writing on your Panda or blog! Lol The more absurd the story is; the more comments. Desperate measures or Smart move? Hmmm?
Keep holding your breathe for someone to come clean up your house. Key word YOUR house... That list is ridiculous. If u want to eat call instacart they deliver.. I guess you and your husband gonna be pretty lonely wanting a break and nobody will babysit. Yall truly will reap what yall sow cause God dont like ugly
You can tell that these two are first time parents. However, their child shouldn't be used as a cash cow. If this were me, I would tell them they could explain to their child why no one visits them. And I would block them. They are both money grabbing A holes.
These people are insane. Family out to cut them off. Not visit till kids a year old. Come clean your house,bring gifts. REALLY!! Ya,ll stuuup...d!!!!
The first few are about keeping the baby safe and I'm on board with that. After that, it went abrupty off the rails. This is narcissistic, greedy, and probably a little nuts. Yes, definitely, YTA
The weirdest part is that two adults agreed on that list. Not a single mother/father but husband and wife sat down and decided that that list made sense and then is looking validation on the internet. If that's not being entitled. Also, note the gift isnt for the child, it's for the mother). let's also put our visitors to work because we cant afford a nanny- again no need for a nanny- you take turns when you can. If you really don't want ppl to visit just say that on one sentence.
Ya greedy jerks how dare they demand gifts for baby and serious,y a gift card for the mom? Oh AND take out food or groceries? That is the most selfish SELF CENTERED BS ever. And the fact that the writer actually had to ask the question if she was in the wrong.... wow just wow don't see much hope there ....poor kid I truly feel sorry for that baby. That's like in a different universe of selfish and stupid!!
It really sounds like the couple has a very low opinion of both sides of their family. I really think the larger familues should agree to leave thelis couple isolated for as long as it takes for them to decide whether they want to be part of the family or not.
So, your family's coming to see the baby or clean your house and feed you??
Forcing guests to bring you food or groceries, is not appropriate! Limiting Visits, you should be thankful you have loved ones wanting to visit and help in anyway possible not everyone has that. No is no- GENERALLY I AGREE. IT DEPENDS ON THE SUBJECT. SOMETIMES AN OPEN EAR can provide you wisdom beyond your own experiences, and knowledge. Open hands can provide you with help you didn't realize you really needed. Open heart and mind Can provide you the love and compassion and comfort you need during hard times. So for this couple. Lighten up your list and please realize you are blessed to have those that want to be there and love all of you. Instead of restriction that are not truly good at all. May your little one have a full blessed life.
List.. I am an older woman that never had my own children so far as I haven't been blessed that way. Being said. If that blessing were to be placed in my hands I could understand some of these but not all. Positive list. Vaccines, time in advance, no smokers, 730pm - 10pm, social media (my brother did this one) due to the sickos out there so it's understandable. Negative list. This would make you loose those that love you and want the little one to be part of their lives. ------ Be more reasonable about visitation when it's scheduled. Advice from someone who's experienced can actually be helpful and maybe you'll learn something new. Everyone needs deodorant. You should be thankful that folks around you use it. As far as gifts go. A GIFT IS A GIFT, NOT A REQUIREMENT!!!! And Chores- It's your home, your responsibility. Not your guests. You can nicely ask if there willing to help, but don't require them too. That's wrong! Who taught you manners?
This can not be real. Surely the A**hole is just trolling. No one in their right mind would require gifts, food, & completed chores from visitors. If this is real, you'd have one less sister in your life. At least. Jerks. Poor kid!
Good luck to you and your husbutt inside your bubble, a-hole. Plus, in other hand, would be better just tell "no visitors" if the mom is facing a PTS or depression, instead doing this list of nonsense. People make simple things so difficult nowadays.
OMG! Are they from California? Those are some selfish pathetic people... Good God I feel sorry for their child! I would block them... and move on. Who raised them to in the first place?
Maybe this woman's mind was benighted over having given birth on Christmas Day and she thinks her son is some kind of untouchable new Messiah.
You guys are selfish and greedy your rules are stupid except people around you baby shooting be sick
Dear Mom and Dad, Speaking from Experience…I had 3 Children in 33 months, took only 1 month off from work for each due to No Maternity Leave, worked Full Time and Kept My OWN House. I agree with the Vaccine rule, the “not feeling well” rule, the not visiting or calling after 7:30pm (I get it with sleeping children) and not posting any photos on social media. The other rules you’ve made just go to show you’re Both on some “Power Triip”, using that sweet, innocent child to get your Family and Friends to do what you Want!!! It Sickens me! I can’t imagine what your wedding was like? That sweet college girl, only wanting to see her niece/nephew when she was home, offering herself as a “slave” to clean YOUR house and then denied because she didn’t have enough money to purchase a gift? You BOTH should be Ashamed. I can understand (a little) your Family Trying to put up with this Crazy behavior in wanting to see the child but WHY do you have Any Friends left?
I guess I just wouldn't be seeing this baby but loving my imagination on how cute this baby could possibly be........
How greedy can you get!? I was happy anyone came to see my baby because it meant I could pee without her crying haha
These self absorbed morons need to be put on time out. What kind of person insists on gifts, chores and additional gifts of food?
What about elderly relatives that are on fixed incomes and can barely take care of themselves much less do your own house work. You don’t allow them to see their great grandchild because I can’t afford to our a of your rules, which might be the only chance they have seeing that child before they pass away. Also I’d be making a copy of that list of rules so that when the child ask why they didn’t see them much growing up they can find out why.
I don't blame her for not answering back. That is ridiculous. Vaccinations, sure. You play with the baby clean up after yourself, sure. Bring me everything no matter your life situation??? Ya no. I'd block my brother too. Not everyone is rich.
Everyone is mentioning how unreasonable this new mom is: true, but did we forget the college student that can't visit is the dad's sister and the dad blocked his parents because they didn't approve of the couple's treatment of their daughter which is his sister? New mom and new dad are obviously suited for one another because they are both ridiculous. There is some deep dysfunction going on all around: from the new parents who are being unreasonable to the relatives and friends (if they have any) who have allowed this to go on up to this point. This should have been undone before it even got to the sister coming home from college.
You might as well put baby on stage so people can place $1 & $5 bills in baby's diaper. Some of your rules r great. However, u r selling, bartering, using baby 2 get free labor. Shame on u!
YTA is insufficient classification for this b***h couple. This isn't ancient Egypt. Shutting out the broke college student who has to save up for one pizza per month by eating bricks or cups of ramen warrants writing off that part of the family. If you can't afford a kid, don't f**k.
Wow, someone is have severe pregnancy brain and passed out along to the husband. This is out of control. Someone seem to be hugh bit entitled. Your ing to extreme to keep people away and get in your family's p They say no one should get special treatment but that what their doing, excepting special treatment. They're were some reasonable expectations but a whole lot of them where in left field. Especially telling people what share their medical history and telling people how to spend their money, and th required to clean when they come. Not even baby Jesus had these expectations and He is the King of everything. You're hearts are in the wrong place and you all need to check it. You'll put your business out here I hope you are truly open to hearing what people have to say. I feel very sorry for your family having to deal with your burden you're putting in them. The poor baby who when gets older my hear how his birth caused confusion because his parents lost sight of what matter.
These would be considered my psycho relatives and they wouldn't be graced with having me in their lives. They should be considered lucky if they have any friends. They sound like real selfish, self-centered jerks.
The only reasonable thing I can think is that this list of ridiculous rules is meant to dissuade people from visiting. That instead of telling people they don't want them to come over and that they want to be left alone with their new baby, they create a ridiculous set of rules that no one is going to want to fulfill just to interact with their baby. Otherwise they are just using it as an excuse to get all the stuff off their baby registry no one bought them because they either didn't have a shower (because covid) or they acted like TAH during the pregnancy so no one showed up to shower with the gifts they actually wanted. I know babies are expensive, especially the first baby but if you can't afford all the stuff you need just be honest with people and ask for help. Holding you baby hostage to get gift cards and baby gear is a total a*****e move and you deserve the lack of help you asked for.
Who died and made this baby God. I would never visit. Parents are just a little cra cra.
Mandatory gifts are a sure sign of arseholishness. Never mind anything else.
These parents really suck. Clean their home and buy them things. Wtf? Ugh.
The safety rules I can understand except the deodorant thing. The money rules are ludicrous. If this is a way to keep people from visiting genius. If your are serious. You are both out of you priviledged freaking minds. This may be your personal little miracle but in the big old world babies are born every second. You needxto come down off that high horse you are on. You're not the only one to do this and your kid is not the first ever born. If I was sis-n-law. I'd just wait to have my own little miracle and leave you to yours.
It's unfortunate, that the baby will be raised wondering if he's only worth the amount he earns his parents. Babbies give people a sense of wonder and a renewed faith in humanity. I hope they are far more kind to their baby then they are to everyone else.
she is in college its already hard for her stop use your baby as a cash grab
Wait till they need a baby sitter or help picking up from school or want a family member to attend a performance, etc. Those parents better watch out, might cost THEM some gifts, chores and takeout.
The only thing I can agree with is the non smoking. Most people will be decent enough to bring something meaning food. If you weren't such a d**k, people would want to help you more. I guess I can also agree with the no pictures on social media.
I am glad I am not in your family because it would be a very long time before I would get to meet your child. You should be ashame of yourself. People love to buy baby things and most will offer to help out. But you have done nothing that most women have done and that was to give birth.
REQUIRED to bring gifts AND food And do chores??? And for that you get an hour of these people breathing down your neck not letting you touch, cuddle, kiss or photograph your nephew/grandchild. Did someone write a holy scripture about that child? Screw you.
Wow, these people! I can understand the vaccinations no smoking and no advice but the free sh!t and a chore?! Are you serious? Who the f$#k do they think they are?!
If any of my friends or family had rules requiring everyone who visits to NOT ONLY bring a gift for baby, but ALSO food/takeout, a gift card for the mom and a chore… no way! You’re on your own! How’s mom getting three gifts and the child one, anyway? This mother will soon be begging any vaccinated friends or family to come sit so she can take a shower, eat or have a much needed nap. I hope they only agree on the basis that mom pays them with cash or approved gift card and a meal for them to eat while they are there. She’ll be so tired of no visitors and no help that she’ll probably agree to it. Heck, I would! I’m renaming you “clueless lonely mom.” Good luck!
I can only guess there must be some awful relative or friend whom these new parents are desperate to keep from visiting their baby under any circumstances. So they've invented these crazy, impossible conditions to keep that person away. They can't bend the rules for anyone else because then this dreadful figure will insist on that option for him/herself. They are willing to alienate everyone else in the family to do this, but can't explain why because the unwanted person would get wise to the real situation.??? The only other explanation is that they are plain crazy and people should be worried about their raising a baby at all.
Scheduling visits... I am great with that. Letting people know where you Baby's gift registry is... Cool. Mandatory gift AND food AND Chores... ARE YOU KIDDING ME??!! Just when I thought some of the younger generation cared at all about family and good friends, 😞 How disrespectful, rude and selfish - shame, shame, shame.
This is horrible that she wasn't allowed to visit the baby because she wouldn't give her cash or a gift card. The student had no money to give. She shouldn't have to clean to see the baby either. Wow I'm just amazed.
If I knew someone family or friend that demanded gifts,food,and household chores they would be on my timeout list until they came to their senses
The fam should start a go fund me for that kiddos therapy and possibly an attorney to assist with emancipation. Poor kid. Can you imagine the birthday party invites? 500 dollar entrance fee, gift registry at FAO, dress code and med records. What psycho douche bags.
Good for their sister-in-law. It isnt easy in college; Not everyone can even find employment afterwards. Rules are rules, but, their child sounds like a * total cash and chore grab*. Requesting Takeout?! ... LMAO! 🤣 🤣... Story Titled: 'This is why I never meet you, because in college I was broke and couldn't afford takeout' ... When their sister-in-law has her baby, I hope she allows everyone but them to visit.
Well thats just point blank selfish, stupid and ridiculous, maybe u guys are the broke ones asking for the extras
I find this scenario unlikely. Mostly because I can't imagine offering to clean someone's house under any conditions nor begging to do it in exchange for a glimpse of their baby, even if it was my nephew or niece. I can barely stand to clean my own house. Plus new parents are usually eager to show off their babies, more so than people are to meet the baby. And what are the odds of a baby being born on Christmas day and how is it even relevant? It could be real, but it's unlikely that anyone would go along with the ridiculous demands .
Uh, did they not have a baby shower? I get the vaccines, and smoking and limited visits but the gift cards and on demand required chores? Naaaaa! I had 3 so im no stranger to newborns etc.
And to block your parents because they disagreed with their greedy tactics? How absolutely childish. Dad and baby might both need a soother.
You need to do chores for me while not wearing any deodorant???? Let me know how that one works out for you! 🤣
I’d text back and say it’s too bad your child will grow up never knowing his/her aunt.
💯 YTMA (M= Massive) this post required a new level from the standard NTA/YTA rating. They are burning bridges faster than a CA wildfire. They would get n0thing from me in the future. No babysitting, no loans, no venting time. Then I would succeed heavily out of spite. Make so much money, set some aside to the nephew to get at 21 and develop amnesia to the point that I forget that they eVer e$isted.
💯 YTMA (M=massive) 💯 💰 grab. Not enough (_*_) ranks to give here. I would make them gr0vel before I ever helped them with anYthing. Babysitting? Nope. Crowd funding for big gifts? Nope. Need a loan? Nope. Wanna vent because you're sleep deprived/overhwelmed/teenager hates you? Nope. I would develop a serious case of amnesia and forget they eVer exi$ted....
Have to think no worries about those second visits. Has anyone made a first visit?
The only gift others will freely give are their Prayers for your baby. Pray that it had wiser parents and that God watch over the gift you have been given. Get down on your knees and give thanks for the gift of life you can hold in your arms. Not everyone, women and men, gets to experience something you obviously have taken for granted and as a hostage for your greed and power.
Congrats you just won the crown of the biggest "YTA". First of all who in their right mind would want to see your child when you have these rules. All your friends and relatives should set up a date to see your kid at high school graduation.
I would start saving for next Christmas/baby's 1st bday. Cuz nobody will send or give gifts to you or you child. You are poisoning your baby's world. Groceries and takeout and gifts and card w/cash and chores. Listen to yourselves. My son and his wife had twins, it has been a year and they still let me crash on their couch cuz they know I have a budget. I gladly spend the motel cost on them, help out with anything around the house and try to give them a break. My son is their care giver cuz his wife makes more money then he did. Its FOR YOUR BABY not for you. They grow up too fast. And you will have holes in your photo albums cuz you wont let people visit. Most people brings gifts, jeez, you dont have to require it. Shame on you. You are shooting yourselves in your greedy IMMATURE feet.
What makes her so high and mighty?? The rules aren't even that ridiculous at the hospital. I had twins right before Christmas and welcomed guests. I would make arrangements for a visit... And when I got there I would knock wait for her to open the door and slap some sense into her
Poor little baby. With idiot entitled parents like that. You know the poor thing will be friendless.
I'll give them the "scented" items. I'm super sensitive to fragrances and smoke, they trigger my asthma in amounts that normal people don't even notice. We're talking incredibly small scents. It's easier to say no across the board than to explain why I'm fine with April Fresh Downy but Mountain Spring Tide shuts me down. And you know what? I'm not even totally anyi-chores but not in this manner. You can't see the kid unless you pre-choose a chore? Nope. I'd be totally cool with new parents who said, "fair warning, once you're through the door we may ask you to swap a load of laundry," because babies are a whole lot of work and new parents need actual sleep. But my god, the gifts and gift cards and groceries? Jesus. When your kid turns 5 are you going to register for gifts? When friends sleep over will they be expected to clean the bathroom? Your kid is not going to have any friends at all if this is your attitude.
These people are greedy, over-entitled @$$hole$. No one is REQUIRED to bring ANYONE A GIFT, EVER. Nor, GROCERIES/TAKEOUT. AND, THEY SURE AS HELL DO NOT HAVE TO DO CHORES FOR YOU, UNLESS THEY ARE A PAID CUSTODIAN. .These people are freaks. I feel for that poor, poor baby, with "parents" like this. That poor kid will have no family, nor friends in his/her life, because his parents are outrageous JERKS! Go to hell, ridiculous "parents".
Requiring people follow COVID protocol is fine. Requiring gifts and chores for a visit is dickish.
If my sister acted like this i would probably never visit, but i also think differently than most due to being autistic, but yeah, parents are too extreme on this. Im not buying you food or gifts, thats what Christmas, Easter, Thanksgiving, Christmas, birthdays, and other holidays people might celebrate are there for. So unless its a party or I'm staying at your place, dont expect me to bring you food unless you are poor or incapable of going to the store. Times are rough for everyone, so not many people might be able to do all the things on this "Greedy" list. Not even my OCD grandmother who complains about everything is this bad.
ABSURD! They're not truly thinking of what baby needs, they're thinking of how much they can get for themselves! A newborn won't know if the house is clean,chores are done, takeout is left at their feet, etc... baby just knows if he's fed, changed, and cuddled. WHAT DISGUSTING PARENTS, I FEEL BAD FOR THE FUTURE OF THAT POOR BABY!
Ridiculous. What struck me the most was "treating everyone the same." That's not how family and relationships work. No one treats everyone the same. A close family member isn't the same as a casual friend or acquaintance. It's reasonable especially during a pandemic to limit in person visits and physical contact to a few people, like close family. These parents are already creating a barrier between their child and extended family. They may regret it later on when they need a babysitter or a break. And requiring gifts, food and chores is crazy. This couple has some serious problems with how they treat people.
I CHALLENGE THOSE GREEDY BEGGARS TO LIST ANYONE WHO HAS ¼ OF THE PATHETIC, COMPLETELY IRRATIONAL DEMANDS THEY ARE TRYING TO FORCE.
This mom should be ashamed of herself! No one needs to bring gifts or do chores! What a b***h and a horrid person!!! Selfish c##t! Cash grabbing mom!
Treating everyone the same is crazy. A close family member is not the same as a casual friend or acquaintance. No one treats everyone the same in all situations. Demanding an aunt pay a fee and ring food and do chores to visit with her niece or nephew is ridiculous. A relationship with extended family members benefits the child and gives the parents a break and this is a poor start. They'll regret their entitled attitude when they want a babysitter later on.
The most ridiculous thing I've ever heard of, who does she think she is Mother Mary just given birth to baby Jesus,. Insanity.
I would just never contact those people at all, like the sister. And that she offered to clean up Appartment? She should offer not to absolutely break ties
Yes, a new baby is fragile, but DAMN 😵!? Were they TRYING to alienate everyone?? Maybe if she'd swept the porch they would have let her have a peek thru the front door? It would be interesting to see how many takers they actually did have 😆 What about the 80yr old Grandma-if there was one--did she have to clean, too???Don't worry folks, next baby (if they have another), NOBODY is going to want to see it! And for the next family get together the assholes have to clean AND bring all the food AND gifts for all the attendees IF they want to come 😁 There are soooo many ways to make these jerks pay for turning a beautiful experience into a family drama. Good luck little baby ❤- you're gonna need it!🤗
I was right there with them until it got to the forced labor and tributes. As for not making an exception for a sister, that is silly. Unless they advertise the fact that they made an exception for sister in exchange for extra chores, a) who would know; and b) how petty are their friends and family that anyone would take offense. This baby better be pooping hold and diamonds for the cost of visiting it is so high.
The parents in the post are absolute garbage and should be ashamed of themselves
I have six kids and never once would I have forced people to bring me gifts or food or do chores for us...wth?!?! How rude and just WoW! Life is too short, what you gona do if your sister is in a fatal car wreck on her way back to college, then what, you never see her again because of some stupid ass rules that are totally inappropriate...think about it!! Don't take your family for granted, you never know what can happen....
Just, wow. To say OP is the a**h*le is an understatement. To be safe and want to keep your newborn healthy is very understandable, but to demand gifts, food, and chores as payment to see the baby?!?! Not cool. What entitled jerks. I’d hate to be related to them.
These people are buttholes. I raised family I raised five children and it was more important for me to see the relatives and get to know them than for them to give me gifts and do chores at my house this is just ridiculous I don't even know why I'm commenting
I don't have kids but most of this seemed pretty reasonable. Except for no deodorant (I understand the no perfume as it agitates my asthma) but those asshats Require a baby gift, a mom gift, free food, free groceries, and chores!?? Do these entitled pricks give birth to a messiah?? Jesus didn't even get all that!!!
They lost me at 'no is no we won't explain why'. Being unwilling to explain things and trying to shut down questioning before it can start is a major red flag that someone is being unreasonable. And of course, it just got crazier from there.
I'm at a loss for words for the selfishness, greed and using that baby for money, food, chores etc. I hope they like each others company because that's all they will have. I can only imagine the holidays.
All I can do is LAUGH. These people really got the game ******up. I mean did you give birth to Jesus. How many dumb friends do you actually have? I am quite sure they knew what type of ***holes you guys were before this baby. I feel sorry for this baby and the day he can invite friends over..
All I could do is LAUGH. These people really got the game ****** up. I mean did you guys give birth the Jesus. I mean come on. And question? How many dumb friends do you actually have?
If only boundaries were the standard then there wouldn't be so many whiners aghast that the buck stops where those with intact boundaries say so. I am all for parents protecting their little ones. Their goal was to limit and weed out unwanted visitors. And they did that. Even though they discovered that their choices left out someone they wanted "IN". Choices.
Did you even read the whole post? Demanding gift cards in exchange for seeing a baby is not a boundary, let alone a reasonable one.
Load More Replies... No wonder the sister won't reply now you guys are ridiculous. What the hell is wrong with you people? That's the way you want to raise your kid to think that everybody has to pay you money to come visit you and has to pay us money and has to do our house work. WTF. I honestly hope you guys lose your family and nobody ever wants to talk to you
I was on their side the first beginning of the room list but immediately I thought for replaced wow just how entitled is this couple?! I don't know who they are to think they could demand gifts gifts are given not demanded! And then they added even further by including a cover charge at the door. Poor child is going to grow up thinking this kind of thing is normal And terribly alone
I'd like to get these people a piece of my mind they are just selfish and using their baby to get money and their housework done. That's f****** disgusting those people don't b'long having children
I'm sure their wedding was a similar grab. Those kind of people make me tired. And the no deodorant thing is weird. Maybe they have an uncle that bathes in Axe body spray or something.
I can understand asking visitors to help out in whatever way they can, I'm sure having a newborn is exhausting, but demanding money gifts and specific chores in order to see the baby as if the visitor works for you/owes you money? Wtf.
How disgusting a list of chorus I don't like doing my own let alone yours your baby your mess you bloody Clean it up, as for a gift you'd get what your given and be thankful that I'd spent MY money on a gift for the baby as it's the baby's birthday not yours! Yes you delivered. Baby just like hundred of thousands of other women had talk about using the child as a weapon poor kid growing up with parents like that probably his it's 20s and need therapy if I was the SIL I wouldn't visit and if I did it be to throw the stupid list in my brother's face lol bet they did alright of the birth of the child how could you treat your own family so disrespectfully and to humiliate and embrassing your own sister like that.
Oh so they are just complete assholes. I thought it was going to be a germ spreading thing. If the family who can't visit for THESE reasons, read this comment, contact me. I have some things to say on your behalf.. I was never like that. These people are just greedy pricks
In their defense, all this stuff is straight out of etiquette guides for visiting new parents. IMO their only offense is being explicit and rigid about things that most people really should be doing anyway without being told (obviously the scenario with the SIL is ridiculous). It's like putting on your wedding invitation that gifts are required: you aren't supposed to say it outright...but guests would be assholes to show up empty-handed.
This is utterly absurd!! The hurt his sister must feel is heartbreaking. These 2 are a joke. They gave birth to a baby NOT GOD while in their eyes he is their world everyone around them wants to love their new baby but he isn't their world!! I was on board with the 1st few: Vaccines must be up to date, cool, I would have added anyone with the potential of babysitting (grandparents) to get the whopping cough vaccine. No smoking- absolutely! I, also, would've added wash your hands and change your shirt. No late visitors is reasonable-- you're exhausted from having a baby, your body has to heal, and now you & your partner get to adjust to 0 SLEEP. No social media pictures I understand only until the parents state it's okay. Friends and loved ones should offer to get food, pick up necessities before coming over, and straighten up the house but if I'm being ordered to do it forget it- I'd see your kid in another lifetime. I'm a mother. I'm a grandmother. I'm also a Therapist.
Youre nuts. U expect ppl to do everything u want like bend to having a vaccine which is 💯 their own bodily choice in life. U need to just keep ur kid in a bubble the rest of their lives. That alone is absurd. Doing chores for u? Wtf do u think u r?! Pay for a mid idiot!
Thats outrageous. They don't have to do chores for you, do your shopping or bring you a gift. They don't have to spend their money on things that you can do just so that they can see your baby. It's a nice gesture for them to do so, but it shouldn't be an obligation. How can you think that those requests are reasonable?! The vaccines asked sense. Just because a family.memebrr smokes doesn't mean they should be banned from seeing the baby. Just ask them to not smoke around the baby or smoke until after their visit is over. If the do, ask them to make sure that they change so there is no risk of secondhand smoke.
Omg, how awful these people are. Also to put the grandparents on time out!!! Wow not one single person will get to know this child.
No perfume is understandable, no deodorant is strange. No pictures? Understand. Gift cards? No. Chores? No I could understand if they asked for you to pick up some groceries (that they pay you back for), but paying to see the baby plus free labor? No
It's very clear that humanity is at the end of this cycle and there are some people that just shouldn't reproduce and bring other children into this world. Baby you're no baby I tell this woman And her mate to kiss my ass and her list
Yeah I feel sorry for this baby.. You two need counseling. I'm sure it was easier to see baby Jesus...
Can we also talk about how her husband blocked his family and put them on timeout for reacting to her unreasonable requests?
100% YTA, bunch of entitled picks. Poor child feel sorry for what the future looks like with that mama. Hope she gets to streaming quick she will need to earn her keep and be a cash cow for them.
Just kidding! These parents have given their families something to laugh about for the next several decades. "Remember when he was born? Remember their ridiculous expectations?? hahahahaha."
Load More Replies... This is so common anymore, the love and bonding families used to do with new additions is over, yes we know disease is spread easily to infants, yes we know NO SMOKING! But for the love of God! The rules, who the hell puts those kinds of demands to visit family? Does anyone remember what family is? Does anyone remember their own childhood, aunts , uncles Cousins? Weekends at the Grandparents house? What has happened to the human part? New parents today make ridiculous demands, make rules no one can follow to a T, then make visiting anxious and nerve racking that you are going to do the wrong thing. THEN, you start seeing the posts about "where is the village?" Why do my friends not visit or help out? I wish my kids had a good relationship with their grandparents, I wish my sister would offer to babysit to give me a break. Oh yes, that day comes and the parents start saying crap like " if you don't make the effort to see them and be a part of their life. It is all so toxic!
They say, "No one gets special treatment." They mean, "No one gets special treatment (except us)." :)
You are terrible people using a child like that and there is a very special place below for people like this family is family and to treat family like that is wrong no matter the reason I hope she never talks to them again and I hope the rest of the family puts them in a time out and never unblocks them
Oh I feel so sorry for that baby. Babies need interaction with family. Not just mom and dad. One day she'll wish someone would come and help her but nobody will be willing to. Hopefully the grandparents will have a forgiving nature when she does.
The Saddest part is,that more and more people are like this…. They pretend to want to have time with U,but it is have much money,gifts & so On U Can give…. Not U in Person…..
You know, the list was going pretty well - let us know beforehand, don't come too late, make sure you're vaxed etc... And then it went downhill from there. Why on earth would you prohibit your relative from seeing your baby aside from the above? Geez, I'd be mad too!
I'm getting a strong feeling this is a troll post. Safety and health rules are fine, even declining advice is fine. Treasuring your baby is fine but asking mandatory gifts and work service to visit is absurd. And the length of visit just probably covers the amount of time it takes to do the chores. Have fun in solitude
Sorry but yes, you're the a*****e. Rules like being fully vaccinated, no smoking, etc I can understand. But a gift is a gift and shouldn't be mandatory. A list of things you'd want or still need, sure, I can understand, but buying something should be a free choice. And doing house chores and buying food?! Seriously? Guests are guests not slaves. When someone wants to come yes sure you can ask them if it's possible for them to bring this and do that but even then a no is a no and in that case you just appreciate the fact that they are around. She clearly cares more about gifts and people doing stuff for her, then the actual person who's coming to visit. Materialism at its worst.
No toddler in the world deserves all that....kid doesn't even know themselves yet the parents are milking that for their benefit...from people who care enough to want to meet their own f*****g baby!! I feel bad for the kid...those parents are just toxic psychos in the making...
No vaccine, no smoking, no perfume, no visits at bed time. Ok The rest is just nonsense. I feel sorry for your relatives.
I'd be willing to look past the chore thing but being that stern on the rules to someone who can't afford it, if your able to be that unmoving to her then you can just tell anyone else wanting to bend the rules no, they shouldn't need to pay for it anyway.
It's just so greedy, the chores thing is stern but fine imo. It's a lighten the load thing because entertaining visitors can burden you, I get that just not the money stuff.
Load More Replies... This is just child exploitation in the most pathetic way, like they should actually be embarrassed. Not just ashamed, this is embarrassing for them.
I don't understand why the sil couldn't give a hand written coupon promising to treat "mom" to a girls day after pandemic and college. And a hand written coupon for the child for a visit to the park post pandemic. That would have been more valuable gifts. They could have asked for 1 apple as groceries. The chores thing, I really don't understand. Grocery shopping does expose you to contact with and possible germs of others. Thus possibly endangering the child. This "sterile" environment for the child is very harmful. No resilience is being built and they are setting the child up to be allergic to everything and be fearful of everyone.
I found this very rude. I am a mom to 1yo and we didn’t do any of this. People themselves are pretty understanding about time limits and they know they don’t have to touch the newborn. This couple is may be thinking too much about it and in return is taking out the fun of being parents and introducing your baby to the friends and relatives.
As I father myself I think it's all about not what you say but how you say things. The conditions are very much logical but people could know why some things have to be followed. I agree, anyway. No need to make an issue out of all this. For instance, "No Smokers". I think they really meant "No smoking". Etc.
This post makes me watch again the movie "What about, Bob?".
It's a baby, guys, lots of people have one or more, you know. What the hell is wrong with people?
These are getting so fake it's insulting. You won't bend a rule for your SIL and expect people to literally work and pay to see your child...come on try harder for the click bait.
This is 200% fake. Chores? She begged? The only thing one would do after reading this is laugh hard and stop talking to them, preferably forever. Do I care about seeing the baby? Nope. It's me being nice to the family. This is fake, but anyway, if they don't want visits, it's even better. They can deal with the baby themselves.
I don't know where you're getting that from. Politics has absolutely nothing to do with this.
Load More Replies...
269
751