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Irresponsible Wife Keeps Leaving Her Son Alone In An Unlocked Car, Husband Takes Him Away While She’s In A Gas Station To Teach Her A Lesson
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Irresponsible Wife Keeps Leaving Her Son Alone In An Unlocked Car, Husband Takes Him Away While She’s In A Gas Station To Teach Her A Lesson

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“My wife has a horrible habit that I discovered 2 months ago,” one husband wrote in a post on r/AITA recently. Turns out, she has been leaving their baby son in the car on his own as she goes to pick up food, run into the post office or pharmacy, etc. Although the author’s wife has clearly seen nothing bad about it, it didn’t sit well with him.

But after one particular incident, when he spotted his wife’s car in a parking lot, the author had enough. “I decided to stop and go in and say hi and get some food and I pulled in and parked next to her. However, when I got there, I was furious to find our son in his car seat. The car wasn’t even locked,” he recounted. So it felt like the last straw and he decided to teach his wife a lesson.

The lesson was pretty unconventional, to say the least, and pushed his wife into a meltdown. Now the question remains, did the author go too far? Share your thoughts in the comment section!

Image credits: North Dakota (not the actual photo)

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Despite being against games like that, this person showed their support for dad in this case

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The author also added a couple more background details

Leaving a child in the car, especially if the temperatures are high or low, can be very dangerous if not deadly. And this doesn’t apply only to neglectful parents, loving ones are susceptible to it too. In fact, researchers estimate that half of hot-car incidents involve a loving parent or caregiver who forgets a sleeping child in the backseat (sometimes referred to as Forgotten Baby Syndrome).

Another common myth among parents is that if they only leave their children in the car for 10 minutes, they will be OK. But the fact is that on an 80-degree day, the temperature inside your vehicle can reach a dangerously hot level in as little as 10 minutes. The truth is that nothing—not cracking the windows nor running the air conditioner or heater—can ensure the car remains at a temperature that is safe for your child. Even if it’s a hassle to take your child along on every “be right back” errand, it can essentially be life-saving.

Others also thought that dad didn’t cross the line and that the wife was wrong for leaving their baby alone

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If you see a child left unattended in a car, you have to react immediately. If the child is not responsive or is in distress, immediately call 911, get the child out of the car, and spray the child with cool water if the temperatures are high. If the child is responsive, you should stay with the child until help arrives. Have someone else search for the driver or ask the facility to page them.

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Later, the dad posted this update on the incident

People praised the dad for handling this whole situation well

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Lily Lu
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In plenty of Nordic countries it's normal to babies alone and unattended outside cafes and shops. Is there a cultural component?

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Ivana
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We sensationalize violence in America so everyone is afraid to let their kids out of eye sight for longer than a minute until they are the age of 18 or so. People will call the cops if you let you kid go to a local park without an adult. Everyone says "It's not like it use to be when we were kids, things are far worse." If they looked at the actual crime rates they would see crime rates were the highest when we were kids and going to the store or to the park alone. But the 24 hour news media has every parent convinced that their kid is about to be stolen and murdered if they can't track them via GPS 24 hours a day.

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Lauren
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I watched someone get arrested for leaving their car idling with their kids in it while they went into the gas station. HUGE HUGE HUGE no no in Georgia/South Carolina.

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ZentheOgre
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Honestly he should have called the local police and explain what he did and head home. That way when the police intervene he could have a police report in case she tries to pursue full custody later. Cps should be involved just because a family member caught it doesn't mean she shouldn't be punished as per the full legal authority of the law. She is the type of mother that ends up with a kid face down on a pond or pool.

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Wesley Lucas
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Cops are the last people who should be called. Frankly, they don't tend to help most situations and would've likely only led to CPS involvement for this family. I think what dad did was a bit extreme but not undeserved. Mom sounds like she's struggling with some postpartum issues and it seems like this is headed in the right direction so that things will change and they can heal.

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smugdruggler
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A few years ago someone my mum knew took her two grandchildren into town. She just needed to nip into the pharmacy to pick up a prescription so she figured, like OP's wife, that the kids would be fine in the car for a few minutes. Then, while she was in the shop she had a stroke. An ambulance was called and she was rushed to hospital - but no-one knew about the kids in the car. They were there for about 4 hours and one of them died. The other recovered but never 100% . Never leave your children in the car. Anything could happen.

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Aliquid
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And I know a recent story of a mother and her small child crossing a parking lot to go to a grocery store, and got hit by a driver that wasn't paying attention. The mother suffered minor injuries and the child died. If the kid was left in the car, they would have survived. People die in freak situations, "Anything could happen" as you say, but that's for everywhere you go, and everything you do.

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Cecily Holland
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A lot of husbands wouldn’t even think to ask about postpartum issues. This man clearly loves his wife and child. While usually I wouldn’t condone game playing in this instance it was needed. He spoke to her TWICE and she LIED to him when she said she wouldn’t do it again. Just went and did it again. Not only that she left the car running and unlocked. Put aside the abduction risk and let’s look at another. It only takes one person to call the police and BANG. You have CPS, DHS or DOCS depending on your country all up in your business.

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TheDivineMsM
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In Tennessee it's against the law to leave a child in the car by itself under the age of 7.

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Saffron Azrael
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think it's technically illegal like that to a certain age in almost all the states.

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Nicole
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm on the fathers side. If it was too hot to leave your child in the car without air then you need to bring him with you. If you can run in quickly and still have visual contact and can lock the door and the child is safe from weather elements, I don't see an issue there. Really should only be done on a rare need to basis. In my opinion

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Anna Jefferson
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It didn't say the weather was hot though. If she ran in for a minute she likely had her eyes on the car. Not like she left him to do the weekly shop.

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Anton Kider
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I imagine it's in the USA. Well done. Better have a sudden fright than grief the rest of your life.

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BJames
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2 years ago

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Baby abduction by strangers is no more common in the US than the rest of the world. Despite what the media might suggest.

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Jo Choto
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I understand how it feels like a hassle, to unbuckle your child and wake them up or disturb them, by picking them up and carrying them into somewhere and then having to hold them while you are waiting in line, etc. And then you have to get them back in the chair and buckled back up, and maybe they're not having it. It takes longer. It's more effort, but nothing on this green earth would ever convince me that I should leave my baby unattended in the USA, especially at a gas station where there are dozens of complete strangers.

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Bill Evs
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I agree. I'm a father of two and no "errand" on this planet is THAT important that I'd risk danger to my children

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BJames
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Honestly this is the only good reason you shouldn't do this. Well meaning citizens calling the cops for non issues is the problem.

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Zophra
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This has a pretty okay ending. These stories usually don't.

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Anna Jefferson
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She wasn't leaving him to do the weekly shop. She was leaving him to pop into a shop, and I expect she could see the car the whole time.

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Kayla J
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am glad things went well for this couple and they sat down and had a serious talk while both explaining difficult feelings and how they could understand the other could see them in the wrong. For those of you who live in other countries where it is deemed normal, I'm glad for you. Where I am, we had an Amber Alert (an alert for when a child goes missing or is abducted) just this past weekend because a car was stolen while the baby was inside. That case had a happy ending, but unfortunately not all have. Does it happen often and could she get away with it for longer, probably. But then there are other families who can no longer say that either. Also, while you does say she leaves the car and AC on, all it takes is just that one time you don't and 6 minutes in a warm climate with the sun on the child and the car being a dark color, and ugh. In Texas its never an if, but when you start to here those horribly tragic cases in the Spring/Summer.

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Ivana
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My parents left me in the car all the time. Gas stations for sure. You should lock the car, but I don't think there is something wrong with leaving the kid in the car if it is something you can do within a few minutes and it isn't the middle of summer without any shade.

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Mikey Kliss
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I got left in a car while my dad was at the bar countless times.... Something I would never wich on my own son

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Sarah nashold
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I can't even. Leaving a baby in an unlocked running car? Are you asking for the worst case scenario? Because I can think if several, including the car stalling and you thinking it was running and the temperature killing the kid, an exhaust leak that only really matters if you are sitting still alone in a closed car with no ability to roll down the window or call fir help, someone stealing the car with your toddler inside.he should have let her dial 911 and then she could have told the cops how she left her kid unattended at a gas station...the father could have always sighted safety concerns for the child when found safely with him. The lady wanted an appology? She is a sociopath.

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Beth L
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was born in the US midwest in the late 1970s, and stranger kidnappings were definitely a thing before I was born and during my childhood. I think my parents were justified in limiting our exposure to being carried off while we were still small enough to be carried off. These days, it is more likely that someone will try to steal the car, not expecting the baby to be in it. Those stories *often* end up ok for the baby, but not always. But if Mom of the Year left the fob in the console or something, then anyone could have driven away with the whole car, baby and all.

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Betsy Novack
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

With every generation, we try to not repeat the mistakes our parents made in our eyes. I could not have kids so I rent them by the day by working for the schools. Parents want to do right for their kids. But what is that? You've got those who protect them from every bump, you've got those who think they are helping by taking away any chance of victory little kids have in their sense of achievement and yes, a few battle scars. An infant or baby should never be left in a car unattended. What may only take a few minutes can change the course of a whole bunch of lives. I have worked with Special Ed for a good long while. Many who suffered from that 5 minutes when left alone. Parent education should be offered in a safe nonjudgemental way. Share some laughs and stop trying to be BFF and be the best parent. Set some boundaries. You brought this little person into the world. Don't think your job ends there. You're responsible for protecting that kid from more than you'll ever know.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Parenting is hard, but leaving a kid in a car is simple awful. No child should be left alone in a car.

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BJames
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2 years ago

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If you want to save children, keeping them out of cars period is the only option. More children are killed in car accidents every day than are randomly abducted by strangers in a decade.

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Linda Tshappat
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A 6 year old named Jake Roble was left in his mom's running car while she went in to Mr. Goodcents subs & pasta. A man that had been released from prison that day, tried to steal the car & push Jake out of the car. The boy became entangled In his seat belt strap and was drug to his death. Witness followed the car and called the cops. It didn't happen in a high crime area. It was on 291 hwy between Liberty & Independence MO. If the mom is disregarding this safety measure what else is she doing for her convenience and putting the baby at risk-maybe leaving him unattended in the bath tub?

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Anna Jefferson
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That was tragic, but it's very unlikely. I expect she could see the car and it's not like she left him for hours or to do the weekly shop.

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AzKhaleesi
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is insanity. Good for OP to do this. She wants to say "no mother should feel that panic" (condensed) ummm Lady, what if it wasn't your hubby??? That feeling would be much MUCH worse.

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Bill Evs
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Thank you. People here defending her is baffling me. They're going so far as to assume their living situation saying stuff like "she's doing all the child raising/ errands etc" even though nothing in the article states (or even alludes) to this

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Nicolai Zoëga
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ind Denmark it ain't super uncommon that children is left "semi" unattended for instance when they are sleeping outside in their strollers ( not sure that is the right term ) our kids have slept outside in negative temps , as that is normal here, but leaving the car running and unlock is illegal here, and would probably not leave my small kids in the car alone, unless I can see the car and they can see me , for instance if I have to go inside the gas station to pay ( rarely an issue as we pay at the pump ) In this case I would probably just have parked my car out of sight, and then sat in my wife's car waiting , she would not have had the extreme fear triggered but still seen how many things could happen while gone, could have been a stranger sitting in the car , or someone taking their stuff and so on so forth.

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Mimi M
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He apologized later and asked if she was okay. I'm with him on this. Btw, another way he could have handled it would have been to call the police with a tip of a baby left alone in a car. It would still have been an unpleasant lesson, but with less fear and trauma.

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Sad Panda
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Calling the police could have resulted in the child being taken by Child Protective Services and her being charged with a crime, in the majority of the US, it’s against the law to leave a child alone in a car, even for a minute.

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Josi Matthews
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sir your actions are beyond justified and I 100% stand with you on the matter. However, I do believe she may be suffering from postpartum depression, or having mental issues as no sane person knowing the dangers would ever do this or continue to do this. If she is deemed sane then she is reckless, negligent and an unfit parent and she should be charged with child endangerment in addition to losing any rights to the baby. Hats off to you for standing your ground by not letting her taking him home. I would never be able to trust her again with him alone given her careless and reckless actions. Honestly speaking if I caught her in the act that would have been it for me. If you decide to stay with her God bless your heart. I would have taken my child and told her to go to hell. My child comes before everyone and I mean EVERYONE! I hope you two get through this. Stay strong Sir!

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E.H. Clark
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When I was in high school my fabric obsessed mom worked for a high end upholstery fabric store. Lots of custom furniture ordered for folks with 2nd and 3rd homes. Very privileged... One day a lady comes in to check her order or do a change with the in-house consultant, when a wailing baby sound comes out of her bag. The in house consultant inquires and finds out her newborn is in the car, 'but it's ok, I left the car running and the 3year old is with the baby. ' Needless to say security and the cps/local pd were called.

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zovjraar me
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

glad they talked afterward and he is supportive of her getting some help. i hope they can work together through this and raise their baby safely.

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K Witmer
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In the 70s this was common practice to leave your kids in the car while your parents went and did their thing. One time I was 3 and thought I could drive. The car was running I could see my mom in the store window grabbing her check. I backed the car up and thank god there was a woman parked next to me and saw it. She jumped in and stopped the car. Anyway laws are different now. Don't do this it's illegal and it's dangerous.

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Laura Annsmith
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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Your wife is an irresponsible a*****e, she deserved what she got, you do NOT owe her an apology, she owes you one, she's embarrassed she got caught doing this, and she is gaslighting you into thinking you are the bad guy, she lied to you and told you she wouldn't do that again. You also said that after you took your son, it took her 6 minutes to come out, so who knows how long she was in there, I would have let her call the cops, let her answer for her b******t, and I can guarantee you that she will do this again.

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Judy Macauley
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Our grandson was kidnapped this way—the car was running. A homeless man jumped in and took off. He knew the baby was there because he told police that “God told him to bring the boy to his grandmother.” Our son-in-law was able to find the car because he had left his cell phone in it. It took a frantic car chase, and he had to ram his own car to stop the man. This father absolutely did the right thing.

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I just work here
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If I were the dad, I would be furious! I never left my child or even my dogs for a minute. It's not worth the risk.

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millac
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Jumping to "she MUST have mental health issues if she isn't paranoid about her baby" seems like a leap. I have the feeling she started crying as a way to grab the "out" offered her. She sobs a little, fakes it in therapy, milks that she has postpartum something to get out of some tasks, and keeps on doing what she wants. So much easier to say it's not you, it's the postpartum, than to have to deal with your spouse thinking you as a person are wrong and not normal.

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Shari Wolf
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I appreciate the updates. I feel bad that I was initially quite judgmental of the new mom—it did not occur to me that she could have been post-partum. It’s real, and causes odd behavior. The husband and new dad is an awesome human being!

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Trialia
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That doesn't make a lot of sense, Shari. Of course she's post-partum, she has a baby! "Post-partum" just means "after giving birth", more or less. Did you mean to say it didn't occur to you that she could've had post-partum depression or psychosis?

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Amy Pontious
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I 100 percent agree with the father you don't leave your child in the car doesn't matter if it just a simple errand real quick! I think that was a great idea taking his son! She obviously doesn't really care about her child!!

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Anna Jefferson
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm sure she does care about her child. It's not like she was leaving him to do the weekly shop. Although she was wrong ro leave the car unlocked it was probably quicker to run in and grab what she needed than spend the time unbuckling and buckling him back in.

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2 years ago

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Joshua Rice
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Honestly I'm probably on the not-so-popular side and say he is the a*****e. He could have sat in her car with the child instead of actually taking the kid, would have still had shock value considering she would have been caught that way to. Taking the child and making her panic like that is really harsh.

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Otter
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Has there EVER been a clearer case of "Both The A*****e"?

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Trialia
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Frequently. He wanted to shock her into taking the issue seriously, and it worked. She should think herself lucky he cares enough to get her some help.

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YTA. That is not a way to deal with problems in a relationship. F*cking TALK to each other!

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Bill Evs
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Umm, he DID talk to her. He explained the problems he had with it which she acknowledged and she promised she wouldn't do it again yet he caught her doing that exact same thing again.

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I will be thrown tomatoes at... but he behaved horribly. What else she had to do than to tell him she's not well, yeah, I bet... she must be simply exhausted and guiltrtipping is not helping her. I wish he would run all same errands as (im sure) she does with a baby on hands. She is wrong to leave him unattended with doors unlocked, but for sure theres nothing wrong to lock the door and leave him for 5 minutes. I must be from completely different upbringing, where there was no over-sensitivity. My mother had to run errands alone and there was no problem for me to sit and wait. Just wish they would talked it out and there was no need to escalate even further and tell her "he doesn't trust her with her own child".

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Bill Evs
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wait a sec, he did talk it out with her when he first discovered she was doing this (quite frankly) incredibly irresponsible thing. She agreed to stop doing it and then was caught out doing again. Not only did she break her promise she didn't even lock the doors of the car. In hindsight what he did might have been a little over the top but he's a father concerned about the safety of his child whereas she seemed completely blasé about it. Yet he's the bad guy?? Also where does it say that she is doing the majority of the errands and child rearing so she's exhausted? It doesn't, you've just assumed that to defend her actions

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My ex-wife and I have a daughter, I can’t begin to imagine using a tactic like this to ‘teach her a lesson’, our daughter is the most valuable person in our world, that moment when she would realise that her daughter was missing would mentally destroy her. Yes, our daughter is safe and well and my ex-wife would soon realise that but why would I visit that level of anguish upon her? That’s a cruel and unusual way of ‘teaching her a lesson’. Surely it would have been better to get in the car, sit there and time the transaction in the garage and upon her return say ‘here’s how long you left our child unattended’? Why go the whole nine yards and undermine the lesson by destroying someone? That’s messed up in so many different ways.

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Tara Raay
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Because she honestly deserves it. This isn’t a safe world, there are real sickos out there. She was WAY too casual about her child’s safety even after being spoken to. What is more messed up is leaving your baby alone in a car or anywhere.

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I don't agree that is it ok for her to leave the son in the car unattended. However, I have to stop and wonder if the husband can really understand based on whether he is taking on the child raising responsibilities as much as she is. Again, not justifying it, but I'd imagine moms begin to take shortcuts and find easier ways to do things when they're the ones doing it all the time. Taking a child in and out of a car for every errand is not as simple as it sounds. It is a huge misjudgement on her part to leave the kid, but I can also sympathize and don't think it's as cut and dry as, "she's a bad mom"

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Bill Evs
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Where in the article does it say or even imply she is taking on the bulk of the child raising responsibilities? You're just making the usual assumption that the man cannot possibly be as hands on in the child raising department as the woman and then using that assumption to try and justify her actions somewhat. IF there's another side to this story it isn't in this article so based only on what's above she is clearly, 100% in the wrong. He found out she was putting their child in danger, called her out on it, made her promise to stop doing it to which she agreed then she blatantly ignored this and got caught doing it again. If that's not a bad mother I don't know what is.

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I am so shocked how a man could do this to his wife. This moment when the mum realizes that the baby is gone... I feel so disgusted. Leaving a kid in a car for some minutes is not a big thing, I would lock the door, but in my area it id also common to let babys sleep outside alone. But tricking your wife like this... what other games are you playing in your relationship?

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She's lying to him and doesn't care. What if the kid got kidnapped? They don't live in Sweden. He just watches out for his kid.

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They’re both the a*****e here. She’s an a*****e for leaving the kid in the unlocked car when she wasn’t in it (though we don’t know if she comes from a place where it’s no big deal), then lying about not doing it anymore. Yes, it’s a real pain in in the ass to do the in and out thing with a baby, but that’s part of parenting. But he’s also an a*****e for “teaching her a lesson” by kidnapping the baby—-then compounding the assholery by then suggesting she had mental issues! She’s not a criminal or nutcase, she’s an exhausted mother of a baby, whose husband apparently has left the lion’s share of childcare, including running errands with the baby in the car, exclusively to her. It’s no wonder she cut corners and figured a couple minutes away would be OK. Thing is, sharing childcare, as well as housework, plus doing what you can to relieve each other of burdens are part of being married. Obviously, he’s paranoid and she isn’t. Not a great pairing. Both assholes.

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Read the Swedish and Danish commenters' posts. And I fully agree when it comes to rural Germany. Judging from that perspective the father is YTA... especially more than he like to drag his wife for unneeded counseling. AND all by obviously assuming she will carry HIS son all around every time while leans back and has obviously enough time to watch her (*creepy predator).

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Sorry... why the downvotes? This is here kind of normal and a father would also participate in watching his child rather than watching his wife/women/girlfriend who gave birth to that child.

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What an absolutely abhorrent thing to do. Wife might not win parent of the year but you sir, are an arsehole.

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Some people are just careless or stupid and it's not something counseling can fix.

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Tldr: regardless of the issue here, that guy is an a*****e and should be divorced asap

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Wait. So he has banned her from going anywhere with her own son until she gets counselling? This is one side of the story. I wonder if hers would be different? She sounds like a busy mum who is left to do all the errands with the baby whilst he is a controller who has to be proved right all the time and not only that, but he doles out unacceptable punishments too. Then, he tries to imply that she is mentally ill and can no longer be trusted to be alone with her own son. Something isn't right here and I would be willing to bet that her side of the story shows more than a few inconsistencies.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As busy as I am as a dad and as exhausting as it can be doing the errands and get things done as a paren, I never EVER am to busy to be concernced about the safety of my son. I take him everywhere with me. This isn't a problem.

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He has taught his wife that he is a control freak who will gaslight her. While I don't agree with leaving children unattended, tehre's a better way of handling it. Talk to her, in a calm, reasonable way, about how dangerous it is, and be sure to say, "I know you're busy, it's a hassle, what do *we* do to fix it"....

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Wow, people here certainly are judgemental. Maybe she just doesn't like the kid that much. ;-)

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In plenty of Nordic countries it's normal to babies alone and unattended outside cafes and shops. Is there a cultural component?

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Ivana
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We sensationalize violence in America so everyone is afraid to let their kids out of eye sight for longer than a minute until they are the age of 18 or so. People will call the cops if you let you kid go to a local park without an adult. Everyone says "It's not like it use to be when we were kids, things are far worse." If they looked at the actual crime rates they would see crime rates were the highest when we were kids and going to the store or to the park alone. But the 24 hour news media has every parent convinced that their kid is about to be stolen and murdered if they can't track them via GPS 24 hours a day.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I watched someone get arrested for leaving their car idling with their kids in it while they went into the gas station. HUGE HUGE HUGE no no in Georgia/South Carolina.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Honestly he should have called the local police and explain what he did and head home. That way when the police intervene he could have a police report in case she tries to pursue full custody later. Cps should be involved just because a family member caught it doesn't mean she shouldn't be punished as per the full legal authority of the law. She is the type of mother that ends up with a kid face down on a pond or pool.

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Wesley Lucas
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Cops are the last people who should be called. Frankly, they don't tend to help most situations and would've likely only led to CPS involvement for this family. I think what dad did was a bit extreme but not undeserved. Mom sounds like she's struggling with some postpartum issues and it seems like this is headed in the right direction so that things will change and they can heal.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A few years ago someone my mum knew took her two grandchildren into town. She just needed to nip into the pharmacy to pick up a prescription so she figured, like OP's wife, that the kids would be fine in the car for a few minutes. Then, while she was in the shop she had a stroke. An ambulance was called and she was rushed to hospital - but no-one knew about the kids in the car. They were there for about 4 hours and one of them died. The other recovered but never 100% . Never leave your children in the car. Anything could happen.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And I know a recent story of a mother and her small child crossing a parking lot to go to a grocery store, and got hit by a driver that wasn't paying attention. The mother suffered minor injuries and the child died. If the kid was left in the car, they would have survived. People die in freak situations, "Anything could happen" as you say, but that's for everywhere you go, and everything you do.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A lot of husbands wouldn’t even think to ask about postpartum issues. This man clearly loves his wife and child. While usually I wouldn’t condone game playing in this instance it was needed. He spoke to her TWICE and she LIED to him when she said she wouldn’t do it again. Just went and did it again. Not only that she left the car running and unlocked. Put aside the abduction risk and let’s look at another. It only takes one person to call the police and BANG. You have CPS, DHS or DOCS depending on your country all up in your business.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In Tennessee it's against the law to leave a child in the car by itself under the age of 7.

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Saffron Azrael
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think it's technically illegal like that to a certain age in almost all the states.

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Nicole
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm on the fathers side. If it was too hot to leave your child in the car without air then you need to bring him with you. If you can run in quickly and still have visual contact and can lock the door and the child is safe from weather elements, I don't see an issue there. Really should only be done on a rare need to basis. In my opinion

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Anna Jefferson
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It didn't say the weather was hot though. If she ran in for a minute she likely had her eyes on the car. Not like she left him to do the weekly shop.

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Anton Kider
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I imagine it's in the USA. Well done. Better have a sudden fright than grief the rest of your life.

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Baby abduction by strangers is no more common in the US than the rest of the world. Despite what the media might suggest.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I understand how it feels like a hassle, to unbuckle your child and wake them up or disturb them, by picking them up and carrying them into somewhere and then having to hold them while you are waiting in line, etc. And then you have to get them back in the chair and buckled back up, and maybe they're not having it. It takes longer. It's more effort, but nothing on this green earth would ever convince me that I should leave my baby unattended in the USA, especially at a gas station where there are dozens of complete strangers.

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Bill Evs
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I agree. I'm a father of two and no "errand" on this planet is THAT important that I'd risk danger to my children

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BJames
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Honestly this is the only good reason you shouldn't do this. Well meaning citizens calling the cops for non issues is the problem.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This has a pretty okay ending. These stories usually don't.

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Anna Jefferson
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She wasn't leaving him to do the weekly shop. She was leaving him to pop into a shop, and I expect she could see the car the whole time.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am glad things went well for this couple and they sat down and had a serious talk while both explaining difficult feelings and how they could understand the other could see them in the wrong. For those of you who live in other countries where it is deemed normal, I'm glad for you. Where I am, we had an Amber Alert (an alert for when a child goes missing or is abducted) just this past weekend because a car was stolen while the baby was inside. That case had a happy ending, but unfortunately not all have. Does it happen often and could she get away with it for longer, probably. But then there are other families who can no longer say that either. Also, while you does say she leaves the car and AC on, all it takes is just that one time you don't and 6 minutes in a warm climate with the sun on the child and the car being a dark color, and ugh. In Texas its never an if, but when you start to here those horribly tragic cases in the Spring/Summer.

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Ivana
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My parents left me in the car all the time. Gas stations for sure. You should lock the car, but I don't think there is something wrong with leaving the kid in the car if it is something you can do within a few minutes and it isn't the middle of summer without any shade.

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Mikey Kliss
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I got left in a car while my dad was at the bar countless times.... Something I would never wich on my own son

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I can't even. Leaving a baby in an unlocked running car? Are you asking for the worst case scenario? Because I can think if several, including the car stalling and you thinking it was running and the temperature killing the kid, an exhaust leak that only really matters if you are sitting still alone in a closed car with no ability to roll down the window or call fir help, someone stealing the car with your toddler inside.he should have let her dial 911 and then she could have told the cops how she left her kid unattended at a gas station...the father could have always sighted safety concerns for the child when found safely with him. The lady wanted an appology? She is a sociopath.

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Beth L
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was born in the US midwest in the late 1970s, and stranger kidnappings were definitely a thing before I was born and during my childhood. I think my parents were justified in limiting our exposure to being carried off while we were still small enough to be carried off. These days, it is more likely that someone will try to steal the car, not expecting the baby to be in it. Those stories *often* end up ok for the baby, but not always. But if Mom of the Year left the fob in the console or something, then anyone could have driven away with the whole car, baby and all.

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Betsy Novack
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

With every generation, we try to not repeat the mistakes our parents made in our eyes. I could not have kids so I rent them by the day by working for the schools. Parents want to do right for their kids. But what is that? You've got those who protect them from every bump, you've got those who think they are helping by taking away any chance of victory little kids have in their sense of achievement and yes, a few battle scars. An infant or baby should never be left in a car unattended. What may only take a few minutes can change the course of a whole bunch of lives. I have worked with Special Ed for a good long while. Many who suffered from that 5 minutes when left alone. Parent education should be offered in a safe nonjudgemental way. Share some laughs and stop trying to be BFF and be the best parent. Set some boundaries. You brought this little person into the world. Don't think your job ends there. You're responsible for protecting that kid from more than you'll ever know.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Parenting is hard, but leaving a kid in a car is simple awful. No child should be left alone in a car.

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If you want to save children, keeping them out of cars period is the only option. More children are killed in car accidents every day than are randomly abducted by strangers in a decade.

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Linda Tshappat
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A 6 year old named Jake Roble was left in his mom's running car while she went in to Mr. Goodcents subs & pasta. A man that had been released from prison that day, tried to steal the car & push Jake out of the car. The boy became entangled In his seat belt strap and was drug to his death. Witness followed the car and called the cops. It didn't happen in a high crime area. It was on 291 hwy between Liberty & Independence MO. If the mom is disregarding this safety measure what else is she doing for her convenience and putting the baby at risk-maybe leaving him unattended in the bath tub?

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Anna Jefferson
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That was tragic, but it's very unlikely. I expect she could see the car and it's not like she left him for hours or to do the weekly shop.

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AzKhaleesi
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is insanity. Good for OP to do this. She wants to say "no mother should feel that panic" (condensed) ummm Lady, what if it wasn't your hubby??? That feeling would be much MUCH worse.

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Bill Evs
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Thank you. People here defending her is baffling me. They're going so far as to assume their living situation saying stuff like "she's doing all the child raising/ errands etc" even though nothing in the article states (or even alludes) to this

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ind Denmark it ain't super uncommon that children is left "semi" unattended for instance when they are sleeping outside in their strollers ( not sure that is the right term ) our kids have slept outside in negative temps , as that is normal here, but leaving the car running and unlock is illegal here, and would probably not leave my small kids in the car alone, unless I can see the car and they can see me , for instance if I have to go inside the gas station to pay ( rarely an issue as we pay at the pump ) In this case I would probably just have parked my car out of sight, and then sat in my wife's car waiting , she would not have had the extreme fear triggered but still seen how many things could happen while gone, could have been a stranger sitting in the car , or someone taking their stuff and so on so forth.

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Mimi M
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He apologized later and asked if she was okay. I'm with him on this. Btw, another way he could have handled it would have been to call the police with a tip of a baby left alone in a car. It would still have been an unpleasant lesson, but with less fear and trauma.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Calling the police could have resulted in the child being taken by Child Protective Services and her being charged with a crime, in the majority of the US, it’s against the law to leave a child alone in a car, even for a minute.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sir your actions are beyond justified and I 100% stand with you on the matter. However, I do believe she may be suffering from postpartum depression, or having mental issues as no sane person knowing the dangers would ever do this or continue to do this. If she is deemed sane then she is reckless, negligent and an unfit parent and she should be charged with child endangerment in addition to losing any rights to the baby. Hats off to you for standing your ground by not letting her taking him home. I would never be able to trust her again with him alone given her careless and reckless actions. Honestly speaking if I caught her in the act that would have been it for me. If you decide to stay with her God bless your heart. I would have taken my child and told her to go to hell. My child comes before everyone and I mean EVERYONE! I hope you two get through this. Stay strong Sir!

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E.H. Clark
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When I was in high school my fabric obsessed mom worked for a high end upholstery fabric store. Lots of custom furniture ordered for folks with 2nd and 3rd homes. Very privileged... One day a lady comes in to check her order or do a change with the in-house consultant, when a wailing baby sound comes out of her bag. The in house consultant inquires and finds out her newborn is in the car, 'but it's ok, I left the car running and the 3year old is with the baby. ' Needless to say security and the cps/local pd were called.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

glad they talked afterward and he is supportive of her getting some help. i hope they can work together through this and raise their baby safely.

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K Witmer
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In the 70s this was common practice to leave your kids in the car while your parents went and did their thing. One time I was 3 and thought I could drive. The car was running I could see my mom in the store window grabbing her check. I backed the car up and thank god there was a woman parked next to me and saw it. She jumped in and stopped the car. Anyway laws are different now. Don't do this it's illegal and it's dangerous.

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Laura Annsmith
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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Your wife is an irresponsible a*****e, she deserved what she got, you do NOT owe her an apology, she owes you one, she's embarrassed she got caught doing this, and she is gaslighting you into thinking you are the bad guy, she lied to you and told you she wouldn't do that again. You also said that after you took your son, it took her 6 minutes to come out, so who knows how long she was in there, I would have let her call the cops, let her answer for her b******t, and I can guarantee you that she will do this again.

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Judy Macauley
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Our grandson was kidnapped this way—the car was running. A homeless man jumped in and took off. He knew the baby was there because he told police that “God told him to bring the boy to his grandmother.” Our son-in-law was able to find the car because he had left his cell phone in it. It took a frantic car chase, and he had to ram his own car to stop the man. This father absolutely did the right thing.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If I were the dad, I would be furious! I never left my child or even my dogs for a minute. It's not worth the risk.

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millac
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Jumping to "she MUST have mental health issues if she isn't paranoid about her baby" seems like a leap. I have the feeling she started crying as a way to grab the "out" offered her. She sobs a little, fakes it in therapy, milks that she has postpartum something to get out of some tasks, and keeps on doing what she wants. So much easier to say it's not you, it's the postpartum, than to have to deal with your spouse thinking you as a person are wrong and not normal.

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Shari Wolf
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I appreciate the updates. I feel bad that I was initially quite judgmental of the new mom—it did not occur to me that she could have been post-partum. It’s real, and causes odd behavior. The husband and new dad is an awesome human being!

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Trialia
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That doesn't make a lot of sense, Shari. Of course she's post-partum, she has a baby! "Post-partum" just means "after giving birth", more or less. Did you mean to say it didn't occur to you that she could've had post-partum depression or psychosis?

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Amy Pontious
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I 100 percent agree with the father you don't leave your child in the car doesn't matter if it just a simple errand real quick! I think that was a great idea taking his son! She obviously doesn't really care about her child!!

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Anna Jefferson
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm sure she does care about her child. It's not like she was leaving him to do the weekly shop. Although she was wrong ro leave the car unlocked it was probably quicker to run in and grab what she needed than spend the time unbuckling and buckling him back in.

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Joshua Rice
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Honestly I'm probably on the not-so-popular side and say he is the a*****e. He could have sat in her car with the child instead of actually taking the kid, would have still had shock value considering she would have been caught that way to. Taking the child and making her panic like that is really harsh.

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Otter
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Has there EVER been a clearer case of "Both The A*****e"?

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Trialia
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Frequently. He wanted to shock her into taking the issue seriously, and it worked. She should think herself lucky he cares enough to get her some help.

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YTA. That is not a way to deal with problems in a relationship. F*cking TALK to each other!

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Bill Evs
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Umm, he DID talk to her. He explained the problems he had with it which she acknowledged and she promised she wouldn't do it again yet he caught her doing that exact same thing again.

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I will be thrown tomatoes at... but he behaved horribly. What else she had to do than to tell him she's not well, yeah, I bet... she must be simply exhausted and guiltrtipping is not helping her. I wish he would run all same errands as (im sure) she does with a baby on hands. She is wrong to leave him unattended with doors unlocked, but for sure theres nothing wrong to lock the door and leave him for 5 minutes. I must be from completely different upbringing, where there was no over-sensitivity. My mother had to run errands alone and there was no problem for me to sit and wait. Just wish they would talked it out and there was no need to escalate even further and tell her "he doesn't trust her with her own child".

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Bill Evs
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wait a sec, he did talk it out with her when he first discovered she was doing this (quite frankly) incredibly irresponsible thing. She agreed to stop doing it and then was caught out doing again. Not only did she break her promise she didn't even lock the doors of the car. In hindsight what he did might have been a little over the top but he's a father concerned about the safety of his child whereas she seemed completely blasé about it. Yet he's the bad guy?? Also where does it say that she is doing the majority of the errands and child rearing so she's exhausted? It doesn't, you've just assumed that to defend her actions

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My ex-wife and I have a daughter, I can’t begin to imagine using a tactic like this to ‘teach her a lesson’, our daughter is the most valuable person in our world, that moment when she would realise that her daughter was missing would mentally destroy her. Yes, our daughter is safe and well and my ex-wife would soon realise that but why would I visit that level of anguish upon her? That’s a cruel and unusual way of ‘teaching her a lesson’. Surely it would have been better to get in the car, sit there and time the transaction in the garage and upon her return say ‘here’s how long you left our child unattended’? Why go the whole nine yards and undermine the lesson by destroying someone? That’s messed up in so many different ways.

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Tara Raay
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Because she honestly deserves it. This isn’t a safe world, there are real sickos out there. She was WAY too casual about her child’s safety even after being spoken to. What is more messed up is leaving your baby alone in a car or anywhere.

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I don't agree that is it ok for her to leave the son in the car unattended. However, I have to stop and wonder if the husband can really understand based on whether he is taking on the child raising responsibilities as much as she is. Again, not justifying it, but I'd imagine moms begin to take shortcuts and find easier ways to do things when they're the ones doing it all the time. Taking a child in and out of a car for every errand is not as simple as it sounds. It is a huge misjudgement on her part to leave the kid, but I can also sympathize and don't think it's as cut and dry as, "she's a bad mom"

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Bill Evs
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Where in the article does it say or even imply she is taking on the bulk of the child raising responsibilities? You're just making the usual assumption that the man cannot possibly be as hands on in the child raising department as the woman and then using that assumption to try and justify her actions somewhat. IF there's another side to this story it isn't in this article so based only on what's above she is clearly, 100% in the wrong. He found out she was putting their child in danger, called her out on it, made her promise to stop doing it to which she agreed then she blatantly ignored this and got caught doing it again. If that's not a bad mother I don't know what is.

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Sara Baumi
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2 years ago

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I am so shocked how a man could do this to his wife. This moment when the mum realizes that the baby is gone... I feel so disgusted. Leaving a kid in a car for some minutes is not a big thing, I would lock the door, but in my area it id also common to let babys sleep outside alone. But tricking your wife like this... what other games are you playing in your relationship?

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Flip
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She's lying to him and doesn't care. What if the kid got kidnapped? They don't live in Sweden. He just watches out for his kid.

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Kathryn Baylis
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2 years ago (edited)

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They’re both the a*****e here. She’s an a*****e for leaving the kid in the unlocked car when she wasn’t in it (though we don’t know if she comes from a place where it’s no big deal), then lying about not doing it anymore. Yes, it’s a real pain in in the ass to do the in and out thing with a baby, but that’s part of parenting. But he’s also an a*****e for “teaching her a lesson” by kidnapping the baby—-then compounding the assholery by then suggesting she had mental issues! She’s not a criminal or nutcase, she’s an exhausted mother of a baby, whose husband apparently has left the lion’s share of childcare, including running errands with the baby in the car, exclusively to her. It’s no wonder she cut corners and figured a couple minutes away would be OK. Thing is, sharing childcare, as well as housework, plus doing what you can to relieve each other of burdens are part of being married. Obviously, he’s paranoid and she isn’t. Not a great pairing. Both assholes.

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Na Schi
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2 years ago

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Read the Swedish and Danish commenters' posts. And I fully agree when it comes to rural Germany. Judging from that perspective the father is YTA... especially more than he like to drag his wife for unneeded counseling. AND all by obviously assuming she will carry HIS son all around every time while leans back and has obviously enough time to watch her (*creepy predator).

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Na Schi
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2 years ago

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Sorry... why the downvotes? This is here kind of normal and a father would also participate in watching his child rather than watching his wife/women/girlfriend who gave birth to that child.

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lenka
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2 years ago

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What an absolutely abhorrent thing to do. Wife might not win parent of the year but you sir, are an arsehole.

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Lori T Wisconsin
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2 years ago

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Some people are just careless or stupid and it's not something counseling can fix.

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Stimpy
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2 years ago

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Tldr: regardless of the issue here, that guy is an a*****e and should be divorced asap

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Not Proud British
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2 years ago

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Wait. So he has banned her from going anywhere with her own son until she gets counselling? This is one side of the story. I wonder if hers would be different? She sounds like a busy mum who is left to do all the errands with the baby whilst he is a controller who has to be proved right all the time and not only that, but he doles out unacceptable punishments too. Then, he tries to imply that she is mentally ill and can no longer be trusted to be alone with her own son. Something isn't right here and I would be willing to bet that her side of the story shows more than a few inconsistencies.

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Tommaso Pace
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As busy as I am as a dad and as exhausting as it can be doing the errands and get things done as a paren, I never EVER am to busy to be concernced about the safety of my son. I take him everywhere with me. This isn't a problem.

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Leo Domitrix
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2 years ago

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He has taught his wife that he is a control freak who will gaslight her. While I don't agree with leaving children unattended, tehre's a better way of handling it. Talk to her, in a calm, reasonable way, about how dangerous it is, and be sure to say, "I know you're busy, it's a hassle, what do *we* do to fix it"....

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Wow, people here certainly are judgemental. Maybe she just doesn't like the kid that much. ;-)

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