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Mom’s Powerful Twin Photo Proves That Motherhood Doesn’t Stop You From Following Your Dreams
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Mom’s Powerful Twin Photo Proves That Motherhood Doesn’t Stop You From Following Your Dreams

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In a recent interview with German newspaper Tagesspiegel, artist Marina Abramovic suggested that having children would have ruined her creativity. “I had three abortions because I was certain that it would be a disaster for my work,” she said. “One only has limited energy in the body, and I would have had to divide it.”

But Hein Koh, a Brooklyn-based artist, has recently responded to Abramovic’s comments by posting a picture of herself working on her Instagram and Facebook pages while simultaneously breastfeeding her twins. “When my twins were 5 weeks old and despite the sleep deprivation and frequent (every 2-3 hours, 24-7, 45 min at a time) breastfeeding, I was still getting shit done,” wrote Hein. “Marina Abramovic thinks children hold women back in the art world, but as @dubz19 put so aptly, “FUKKK THAT”.” Read on for the full message.

More info: Facebook | Hein Koh (h/t: babble)

“Somehow as a man you are allowed to have kids and still be perceived as driven in your career,” said Hein. “While if you are a woman who has a child, people think of it as a huge sacrifice,” she observes. “The new family models are changing — mothers don’t necessarily have to be the primary caretakers anymore. With a more even distribution of responsibilities, and a support system — support is key, and I recognize it is a privilege — women can still have children and be successful in their careers.”

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“I’ve pieced together a schedule that allows me to spend time with the kids for at least a few hours every day, but also have at least a few hours to myself to work in my studio or do other things that I need to do,” she notes. “Childcare is a privilege, and unfortunately many moms and artists don’t have that. That being said, I understand how fortunate I am and I don’t waste time.”

“We all have to do what we think is best for ourselves and our families,” she continues. “I’m just trying to live my life, and I know I have limitations but I’m doing the best I can. People should just leave moms alone, and mind their own business. Especially other moms, who are always the first to judge. Regardless of our individual choices, women should support other women, and lead by example rather than attack. That’s the kind of culture I want to promote.”

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Katarzyna Cz
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Most people wouldn't be very creative after weeks of sleep deprivation. And read a couple of article doubting whether humans can really be multi-tasking and effective at the same time. Just saying. Having abortion is normal, having children is normal as well. But I really hate people telling 'If I can do it, you can do it as well, if X was good for me it's gona be good for you'. People actually do differ.

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Daria B
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I agree, but she can still be an inspiration and an example to those who want to both have kids and a career. Also, kids or no kids, busy artists get sleep deprived too, and it's hard the first few weeks, yeah, but then, somehow, people find additional strenght and learn to move on. Abortion is indeed as normal as having kids, but three abortions? I won't criticise her for her life choices, afterall, contraception isn't flawless, but makes you having doubts... Anyway I wish the best of succsess to both artists.

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Saumya
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This article is great and kudos on ur job, kid and everything. Clearly you have found the perfect balance. But the artist Marina Abramovic is entitled to her own views and live her life without being judged by 'supermoms'. Its a sad reality that our society still looks down on women who have abortions, its her body and her right. If she is not ready for a baby and everything it entails that doesn't make her a bad person.

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TheReader19
Community Member
7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Marina Abramovic can have no kids, that is her right. Every women has a right to choose to have no kids and a career, or twenty kids and a career or no career. However; in this day and age it is NOT necessary for any women to have three abortions. It has nothing to do with anybody being a super mom. An abortion IS a termination of a life like it or not. Women in the Western world have an unlimited supply of contraception and choice. If she is really against children why doesn't she just get steralised and she will never have to worry about getting pregnant again. It has nothing to do with being religious or a super mum however; it does have something to do with being responsible and having a moral barometer, and a totally unnecessary surgical risk three times over. Even abortions carry a risk in the procedure.

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Arty
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why would anyone have to prove anything? Of course you can have kids and work, of course you can work and not have kids, of course you can have no kids and no work...no sorry...that's not good. Anyway Koh is doing great, good for her, Abramovic doesn't want kid now, good for her too. Just one personal comment: abortion isn't a contraception method. I understand people that's doesn't want children, I understand people that abort whatever the reason. But there is better ways of preventing to have children...

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Darryl Winter
Community Member
7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You'd have to be pretty naiive to think that abortion equates as birth control.... These things do happen. Birth control fails on a regular basis! Condoms fail regularly, and the other options are hormonal or really intrusive procedures! People are careful, but our options are often limited, and its all a game of chance. I say bring male contraceptives to the market! And maybe abortions would not be happneing quite as frequently as they sem to be...

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Heather Keedy Bateman
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Kudos to her. Although, photos like these are also why women are expected to do EVERYTHING!!

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elise maiberger
Community Member
7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

An Instagram post isn't a major art installation. If MA feels she couldn't do it, it's her choice. Why does anyone feel the need to debunk it -- oh yeah, to get you & your twins posted on Bored Panda.

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Angélique
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Good for this artist. However I found it so disrespectful to insult another woman's choice.

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Laura Ni Conmhidhe
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Just because it's okay for her doesn't mean it's right for Marina Abramovic. She should be supporting her fellow woman's choices.

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Leen Pol
Community Member
7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm just here wondering why is it Hein Koh's business what Marina Abramovic does or doesn't do. This is just so wrong from Koh's part. I have 4 kids and I don't go around showing people who decide to have just one what I do or how I do it. F*ck Koh.

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Heather Alisse
Community Member
7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why do we idolize people who don't get enough sleep and insist it's better to be career focused than want to just raise children? :(

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varwenea
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

These images are amazing! The real message though - is about choice! And not telling others what he/she will or will not be able to do or feel a certain way. Both are entitled to their opinions and live their own experiences.

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Danijela Plavsic
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Marina Abramovic did not say all female artist should have abortions if they want to remain creative, she only said that she felt it would have hindered her creativity, so I'm not sure why this person took it so personally. It just looks as if this, to me an unknown artist (I'm not saying she's not talented or popular, I just haven't heard about her before) tried to get some attention through Marina...and well, it worked.

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David Smith
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wait whaaat? She says "...Regardless of our individual choices, women should support other women, and lead by example rather than attack. That’s the kind of culture I want to promote.” But then criticize an artist for her not wanting to be a mother?

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Orsi Nagy
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

First of all, that's a scary, tasteless and disgusting photo. She carelessly pushes her breasts into the faces of the poor babies, and they are just hanging there while she doesn't give a f**k about them :( seriously, is she proud of that? It's like she's pushing her breasts against 2 potatoes, I feel sorry for those babies. I remember when my mom used to breastfeed my sister, she was paying attention to whether she was full of breathing normally. Babies are fragile, they can suffocate. Second, she is a huge hypocrite. One artists told her own story and why that worked for her. And then here comes this "supermom" to criticize her. Marina wasn't attacking her, so she shouldn't start judging women who choose not to have babies. When it comes to our lives and bodies, we do whatever we want, so no judgement needed. All the sleep deprivation must have wrecked her brain, plus she must feel really insecure and frustrated.

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Sara Fina
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"Proves That Motherhood Doesn’t Stop You From Following Your Dreams" --> Not true. Or only true if your dream is compatible with raising a tiny human, which most are not.

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Magali Charles
Community Member
7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I love the first pic, what a badass mom, looool! Seriously, she was right to remind Abramovic that some can have children and be productive anyway. Each person has their own amount of energy and ability to cope with motherhood and work at the same time. Let's not be judgemental one way or the other.

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Kimberly Law
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Keep your legs together. That would be a start. Killing your babies and you boast about it on social media. You are announcing that you need physiological treatment. A true friend would have told you that a long time ago.

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Celestia
Community Member
6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Everybody is kinda negative here, why can't you be happy for the struggling artist with twins....everyone is thinks abortions are okay, but if yu f**k, tough luck...and take care of your children because evryone just cares about themselves

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Kateryna Berydukhova
Community Member
6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why does this lady think that someone else would want to juggle work/being creative and children?

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Ashley Paine
Community Member
7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

These pictures are amazing I particularly loved the nursing at the laptop one :) really made my day, it is just beautiful. Truly a depiction of modern mums doing their thang.

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JoAnne Klein
Community Member
7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Who cares about psychoanalytic evaluation: She's gorgeous, the babies adorable and the husband is a hunk. All the earmarks of a really happy family.... they are all terrific!

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Elly Clifton
Community Member
7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Kids are a source of inspiration! Well done, your twins are beautiful.

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nicole buerosse
Community Member
7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yesss! Children are blessings..certainly add immeasurable joy, personal growth and happiness to your life!

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Lucia Pereszlenyiova
Community Member
7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

just don't understand if she is so smart and great woman, how is possible she never heard about contraception? really 3 abortions? for me she is baby killer, stupid woman who knows how to f..ck but doesn't know how to not get pregnant...karma is for free b***h...

rhon avatar
Rhon
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7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I became more creative when my kids were born. Sleep deprivation only last such a short time and I got things done at night with a gorgeous little human being snuggled into me. Katarzyna Cz, abortion is not now and never will be "normal"!

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Anna Panda
Community Member
7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah cool and where is the father of her kids? As if having children is a one man job -.-

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Kjorn
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7 years ago

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respect for this mom and shame of the one who decide to abort because of her career. that woman will be 30... 40 and will regret her decision at the end of her life when she'll be alone

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Katarzyna Cz
Community Member
7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Most people wouldn't be very creative after weeks of sleep deprivation. And read a couple of article doubting whether humans can really be multi-tasking and effective at the same time. Just saying. Having abortion is normal, having children is normal as well. But I really hate people telling 'If I can do it, you can do it as well, if X was good for me it's gona be good for you'. People actually do differ.

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Daria B
Community Member
7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I agree, but she can still be an inspiration and an example to those who want to both have kids and a career. Also, kids or no kids, busy artists get sleep deprived too, and it's hard the first few weeks, yeah, but then, somehow, people find additional strenght and learn to move on. Abortion is indeed as normal as having kids, but three abortions? I won't criticise her for her life choices, afterall, contraception isn't flawless, but makes you having doubts... Anyway I wish the best of succsess to both artists.

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Saumya
Community Member
7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This article is great and kudos on ur job, kid and everything. Clearly you have found the perfect balance. But the artist Marina Abramovic is entitled to her own views and live her life without being judged by 'supermoms'. Its a sad reality that our society still looks down on women who have abortions, its her body and her right. If she is not ready for a baby and everything it entails that doesn't make her a bad person.

thereader19 avatar
TheReader19
Community Member
7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Marina Abramovic can have no kids, that is her right. Every women has a right to choose to have no kids and a career, or twenty kids and a career or no career. However; in this day and age it is NOT necessary for any women to have three abortions. It has nothing to do with anybody being a super mom. An abortion IS a termination of a life like it or not. Women in the Western world have an unlimited supply of contraception and choice. If she is really against children why doesn't she just get steralised and she will never have to worry about getting pregnant again. It has nothing to do with being religious or a super mum however; it does have something to do with being responsible and having a moral barometer, and a totally unnecessary surgical risk three times over. Even abortions carry a risk in the procedure.

Load More Replies...
atlantike avatar
Arty
Community Member
7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why would anyone have to prove anything? Of course you can have kids and work, of course you can work and not have kids, of course you can have no kids and no work...no sorry...that's not good. Anyway Koh is doing great, good for her, Abramovic doesn't want kid now, good for her too. Just one personal comment: abortion isn't a contraception method. I understand people that's doesn't want children, I understand people that abort whatever the reason. But there is better ways of preventing to have children...

dvw1993 avatar
Darryl Winter
Community Member
7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You'd have to be pretty naiive to think that abortion equates as birth control.... These things do happen. Birth control fails on a regular basis! Condoms fail regularly, and the other options are hormonal or really intrusive procedures! People are careful, but our options are often limited, and its all a game of chance. I say bring male contraceptives to the market! And maybe abortions would not be happneing quite as frequently as they sem to be...

Load More Replies...
hkbateman228 avatar
Heather Keedy Bateman
Community Member
7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Kudos to her. Although, photos like these are also why women are expected to do EVERYTHING!!

elisemaiberger avatar
elise maiberger
Community Member
7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

An Instagram post isn't a major art installation. If MA feels she couldn't do it, it's her choice. Why does anyone feel the need to debunk it -- oh yeah, to get you & your twins posted on Bored Panda.

angelique_ville avatar
Angélique
Community Member
7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Good for this artist. However I found it so disrespectful to insult another woman's choice.

lauralyoo avatar
Laura Ni Conmhidhe
Community Member
7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Just because it's okay for her doesn't mean it's right for Marina Abramovic. She should be supporting her fellow woman's choices.

aileen_damaris_311 avatar
Leen Pol
Community Member
7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm just here wondering why is it Hein Koh's business what Marina Abramovic does or doesn't do. This is just so wrong from Koh's part. I have 4 kids and I don't go around showing people who decide to have just one what I do or how I do it. F*ck Koh.

heather_alisse_7 avatar
Heather Alisse
Community Member
7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why do we idolize people who don't get enough sleep and insist it's better to be career focused than want to just raise children? :(

varwenea avatar
varwenea
Community Member
7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

These images are amazing! The real message though - is about choice! And not telling others what he/she will or will not be able to do or feel a certain way. Both are entitled to their opinions and live their own experiences.

danijelaplavsic avatar
Danijela Plavsic
Community Member
7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Marina Abramovic did not say all female artist should have abortions if they want to remain creative, she only said that she felt it would have hindered her creativity, so I'm not sure why this person took it so personally. It just looks as if this, to me an unknown artist (I'm not saying she's not talented or popular, I just haven't heard about her before) tried to get some attention through Marina...and well, it worked.

davidsmith_1 avatar
David Smith
Community Member
7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wait whaaat? She says "...Regardless of our individual choices, women should support other women, and lead by example rather than attack. That’s the kind of culture I want to promote.” But then criticize an artist for her not wanting to be a mother?

orsinagy avatar
Orsi Nagy
Community Member
7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

First of all, that's a scary, tasteless and disgusting photo. She carelessly pushes her breasts into the faces of the poor babies, and they are just hanging there while she doesn't give a f**k about them :( seriously, is she proud of that? It's like she's pushing her breasts against 2 potatoes, I feel sorry for those babies. I remember when my mom used to breastfeed my sister, she was paying attention to whether she was full of breathing normally. Babies are fragile, they can suffocate. Second, she is a huge hypocrite. One artists told her own story and why that worked for her. And then here comes this "supermom" to criticize her. Marina wasn't attacking her, so she shouldn't start judging women who choose not to have babies. When it comes to our lives and bodies, we do whatever we want, so no judgement needed. All the sleep deprivation must have wrecked her brain, plus she must feel really insecure and frustrated.

adoptam avatar
Sara Fina
Community Member
7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"Proves That Motherhood Doesn’t Stop You From Following Your Dreams" --> Not true. Or only true if your dream is compatible with raising a tiny human, which most are not.

malijaa01 avatar
Magali Charles
Community Member
7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I love the first pic, what a badass mom, looool! Seriously, she was right to remind Abramovic that some can have children and be productive anyway. Each person has their own amount of energy and ability to cope with motherhood and work at the same time. Let's not be judgemental one way or the other.

kimberlymlaw avatar
Kimberly Law
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Keep your legs together. That would be a start. Killing your babies and you boast about it on social media. You are announcing that you need physiological treatment. A true friend would have told you that a long time ago.

celestiamyles avatar
Celestia
Community Member
6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Everybody is kinda negative here, why can't you be happy for the struggling artist with twins....everyone is thinks abortions are okay, but if yu f**k, tough luck...and take care of your children because evryone just cares about themselves

meteor_echo avatar
Kateryna Berydukhova
Community Member
6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why does this lady think that someone else would want to juggle work/being creative and children?

ashleyxpaine avatar
Ashley Paine
Community Member
7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

These pictures are amazing I particularly loved the nursing at the laptop one :) really made my day, it is just beautiful. Truly a depiction of modern mums doing their thang.

joanne_klein_520 avatar
JoAnne Klein
Community Member
7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Who cares about psychoanalytic evaluation: She's gorgeous, the babies adorable and the husband is a hunk. All the earmarks of a really happy family.... they are all terrific!

elly-clifton avatar
Elly Clifton
Community Member
7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Kids are a source of inspiration! Well done, your twins are beautiful.

nicolebuerosse avatar
nicole buerosse
Community Member
7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yesss! Children are blessings..certainly add immeasurable joy, personal growth and happiness to your life!

princezna156 avatar
Lucia Pereszlenyiova
Community Member
7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

just don't understand if she is so smart and great woman, how is possible she never heard about contraception? really 3 abortions? for me she is baby killer, stupid woman who knows how to f..ck but doesn't know how to not get pregnant...karma is for free b***h...

rhon avatar
Rhon
Community Member
7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I became more creative when my kids were born. Sleep deprivation only last such a short time and I got things done at night with a gorgeous little human being snuggled into me. Katarzyna Cz, abortion is not now and never will be "normal"!

thenew1 avatar
Anna Panda
Community Member
7 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah cool and where is the father of her kids? As if having children is a one man job -.-

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Kjorn
Community Member
7 years ago

This comment is hidden. Click here to view.

respect for this mom and shame of the one who decide to abort because of her career. that woman will be 30... 40 and will regret her decision at the end of her life when she'll be alone

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