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Thread With 290k+ Reactions Explains Contrast Between Reactions To Male And Female Violence Against Each Other In Media

Thread With 290k+ Reactions Explains Contrast Between Reactions To Male And Female Violence Against Each Other In Media

Sadly, double standards are more often than not a reality with many things in our society. Tumblr has been discussing one such standard, but one that not many would expect. And an important one nonetheless.

One Tumblr user shared their thoughts on the idea of how it’s not all that shocking for men to see males expressing acts of violence towards women in various media, but when the tables turn and women start being violent against men, it suddenly becomes absolutely horrifying.

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Sadly, double standards are a thing, and here’s a more or less unconventional one that certainly needs to change

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Tumblr has been discussing the issue of violence, specifically how different people react to men-against-women violence compared to when the roles are reversed

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Tumblr user bau-liya pointed out one interesting thing: women are supposed to ‘grin and bear’ the various media showcasing abuse and violence against women and that being declared a ‘high art,’ yet when the roles reverse, it’s suddenly taboo and barbaric.

This inspired another Tumblr user, jujubiest, to share their experience and thoughts on the matter, leading to a now-viral thread on the social media platform.

This Tumblr user shared some of their insights and conclusions on the matter

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Juju took a course in modern horror films and had to watch a lot of them. During some of these screenings, they noticed how other family members were cringing and being shocked by a particular context of violence: when women are overly aggressive towards men.

They also provided other examples—one being how even the academics for the thesis were reluctant to discuss certain aspects that involved said violence and the various backlash by men on the topic.

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This led the Tumblr user to reach a conclusion that most men are fine and/or desensitized to male-on-female violence, but are intensely bothered by the opposite. Even the mere idea of it presented in the media is loathsome, let alone actually experiencing something like it.

Now, violence of any kind should not be a thing in any society in the first place. But the thread does raise a good point—how many are actually desensitized to violence towards women, but as soon as it’s vice versa, it becomes “fresh” and hence shocks us more, despite it being the same violence.

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The thread managed to go (very much) viral, gaining a staggering 290,000+ notes on the media platform alone. This is besides all of the reshares on other social media and news sites.

And as it turns out, the issue has been around for a while, as evident from a newspaper comic from 1993

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What are your thoughts on this? Feel free to discuss the issue in the comment section below!

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Edward Galore
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I loved this piece. It is a perfect example of male fragility. The idea that men are outraged by violent, empowered women on-screen, while finding media violence against women palatable infuriates me. The hypocrisy is so blatant. I witnessed a flame war on Reddit in response to a posted video where a woman admitted to being sexist against men. She was merely stating her opinion that she didn't like men "as a whole". Men responded by calling her a whore and with death threats. Disliking men as a group does not equate to advocating for violence against men, yet the men responded as if it did. Male fragility endangers women.

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Gin Marie
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Call it what it is: guilt. It's like cops who shoot innocent black people or those guys who claim all rape accusations are false. It's a confession. They're afraid of tables turning because they have skeletons in their closets. Also, ever notice that the guys who scream, "Women do it TOO!" are ONLY interested in women attacking men? Never women vs. women or male vs. male? Or how they'd rather bitch about how women owe them rather than ACTUALLY help men? We had a guy in my city found a shelter for battered men. Every ex wife and child of his had a restraining order against him. He had been violent---only toward women and children---his whole life. And now that I'm actually far off topic, batterers like to claim that they need shelter so they can find out where the shelters and their victims are.

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elStiJneriNO
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2 years ago (edited)

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You could use your own "clever" reply here too "That's a lot of words to say you're the lousiest f**k in the world, and likely a Trumpie." I like this kind of intelligent humor of you

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CatWoman312
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In teeth what set her off is how she was raped by a guy she trusted and then every guy she assaulted after that was trying to hurt her in some way. It’s not like she went out looking to assault men (except the poor doctor who was by all means an accident), she only assaulted the ones who hurt her. It’s a really good movie, but very graphic

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Troux
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I didn't know this aspect of crippling, fragile masculinity existed in men, but it makes sense. Have seen this from a lot of male audience: any fight/argument that breaks out between men in a movie is "Aww yeah! That guy is bad ass!" but the exact same behavior from a woman vs man or woman vs woman gets "Yikes! Bitches be crazy!" Sigh...

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Edward Willis
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think what annoys me is that female-to-male violence seems to be more played for comedy. In the music video for Alexander Rybak's OAH, a woman hits a man who's asking for a date and it's all "hah hah is funny". But the entire video is about a man who's stalking a woman and that's treated as "hah hah is funny" as well, but (just about) falls short of actual violence. The flip side is his music video for Leave Me Alone, where a woman stalking a man ends up in a mental institution. I think the men in this article are (mostly) reacting to and calling out genuine and unfair double standards, but massively ignoring all the genuine and unfair double standards that advantage them. I think men as a whole need to learn that the best way to stop women "getting away with bad behaviour" is to deal with the way that men treat women first, and then they'll see just how much male-aimed unfair behaviour disappears.

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Wouldiwas Shookspeared
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

yeah i agree. The anime trope of oh haha female character angry for no reason she punches all the dudes is also not ok. Both sides are true. This article focuses on the fragile dudes, but the making fun of (generally domestic) violence towards men is not cool.

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Chenandoa
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think maybe the reason I like Kira Nerys (star trek ds9) so much is because it is rather unusually for ladies to be portrayed as strong...she frequently will beat up and knock out men taller than her, and in military uniform. I also like Jadzia Dax, probably because she fights better than many klingons...at their own techniques. It just unusual, and I like film/literature that deviates from the norm. I hate that most stories (when stripped down to a 3 sentence description) are identical

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danielw
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If you like Kira, you'll enjoy Babylon Five. both Susan Ivanova and Delenn are.... incredibly strong characters in their way. (my current favorite line comes from Delenn, saving the day. "If you value your lives, Be. Some. Where. Else." she's normally the calm, rational one. (also, just as a side note... Walter Koenig plays a seriously awesome bad guy.)

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Nikki Owens
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm not sure about the conclusions drawn from this; they seem to be the result of confirmation bias. What's overlooked in the analysis is that generally, male-on-female predation & violence are depicted in films as something villainous, while female-on-male predation & violence are depicted as something to celebrate & cheer on. That in itself is a double standard, & I think it probably has a lot to do with men's reactions.

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Leo Domitrix
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I disagree. See: "Fatal Attraction"; "Basic Instinct"; etc. In those, female on male predation was depicted as villainous.

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Pezor Zass
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

i did read the article, and i'm sure it's right in many ways, but i have to say that i spent my childhood watching tv thinking "oh look, another 20 guys just got blown away and nobody seems to care, meanwhile the one evil woman gets bopped on the chin, collapses, and is put in handcuffs." I don't really trust my own recollections because i was brought up in a household with very set gender ideas, but i have this feeling that it's all a lot more complicated than most people seem to think. i don't even think our society is ready to have a full and honest discussion of these things and it makes me sad. i'll be long dead before people can just be people, i think.

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Gin Marie
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You know, there ARE books that could tell you that men get raised to be conceited, selfish, view women as prey toys, train in violence, and commit nine violent crimes for every ONE women do. You could notice that women are SMALLER than men, and that using "equal" force on unequal-sized people is not equal AT ALL? Also, TV IS NOT REAL. Also, those TV shows are being WRITTEN BY MEN.

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Matt Du
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Daniel Marsh
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Never once in my entire life have I ever heard a guy complain about movies depicting woman-on-man violence with two exceptions: 1) smashing testicles as comedy and 2) noting that smashing someone over the head with a cast-iron frying pan (a once-common comedy trope) would probably cause permanent damage.

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N G
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The frying pan is an interesting one. In Tangled, for example, the frying pan is the weapon of choice ("I have got to get me one of these!") The hits to the head are played out as comic and very much in the style of it being a cartoon - almost Tom and Jerry like. The [spoiler for an 11-year-old movie] stabbing though is treated with utter seriousness. Though in a movie about magic hair, one probably shouldn't examine things too closely...

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Bole Perishon
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is, actually, evidence of a much greater problem and not one mentioned here - the fact that no one seems capable to perceive women as violent. Even in these movies, the men they kill 'had it coming", unlike many female victims in "regular" slasher movies. The problem with women-monsters in these movies is the fact that they are "empowered" and not simply monsters like Freddy Krueger and the likes.

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Doubleheader
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's the perpetual idea that women must remain as victims. Particularly white women. It becomes especially bad in cases where you hear about real-life women "fighting back" to protect themselves from an attacker (self-defense), and getting the whole book thrown at them because they shattered that perception. This is particularly something that POC in the US face. All too often I've read stories of black women being thrown in jail for fending off attackers.

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Yayaboobo
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I worked in a prison system and the women barely had visitors even though most had children, husbands and/or partners before they'd been incarcerated. The men? Well they had to have lists of people on rotation. It was so sad women are often ostracized when they commit crimes.

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Lorraine R
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

On TV, women being able to take men down is becoming somewhat more common. There was ex-Mossad agent Ziva David in NCIS (seasons 3-11), and "Person of Interest" had two: Root and Shaw, who were not only good shots but experts in close-quarters combat as well. Now we have the new "Equalizer" played by Queen Latifah. But before all of these, and setting media in a new path in terms of action, was Ripley in "Aliens". I can still remember the outrage of one male critic who found her strength and courage highly offensive. He, and men like him, need to stop expecting women in media and in real life to conform to their ridiculous and inhumane standards.

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Luke Oakridge
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2 years ago

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It is very common to see women fighting men and the show treating the women as empowered. But it is very rare to see a man fighting a woman and see the man treated as empowered. That's the double standard.

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René Studer
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This confuses me deeply. Who are these men? I have never ever seen a man who was shocked or uncomfortable by a women being violent towards men in fiction just because its a woman doing violent stuff. Never. Where do you find these guys?

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Deborah B
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think Teeth upsets men, because it makes them think about how the women around them would respond to sexual violence if they had the capability.

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Kat Didemus
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Luckily a brilliant woman in South Africa invented a female condom that women can wear that is basically actual vagina dentata. Rape is so endemic there, that some women are wearing vaginal teeth to flay the penis of their rapist, which if you ask me is kinder than any rapist deserves, but I'll take what I can get.

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Luthor
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I just don't get it. Why are men so very very afraid of women? Men have all the political power. Men have all the physical power. Men have all the psychological power. Yet they are so afraid of women. So very afraid. Is it because they know that once women realise that they no longer need men then women will rise and take back the matriarchy that it used to be? Each generation of men are becoming more and more obsolete. These 70 year old male politicians are nearing their end date. Sperm is easily stored... Women won't need men much longer. In 100 years, unless men change... then they will be obsolete... and the new men will be raised by women to be proper human beings... that is why they are afraid... they are afraid of losing power. Unless they adapt they are done. But they don't want to adapt, they want to maintain power no matter how much it hurts women. Even if it means destroying life as we know it. And now... here come the drums here come the drums. Please don't take this too seriously, boys. Just locker room talk.

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John C
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Personally I've never given a second thought about woman-on-man violence, like in Misery, so I'm likely missing something here: but are we sure the male reaction is because it's being perpetrated by a woman, and not that they are just reacting to the violence itself? The scene in Reservoir Dogs with torturing the cop haunts me just because I feel like I can identify with the dude getting tortured, not because of the gender/race of the torturer. Are we sure this whole perception isn't confirmation bias, i.e. we pay attention to when men are squiked out by women and forget the examples like in Reservoir Dogs?

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Al Kenny
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I dunno, not being a sensitive new age male sort I've always enjoyed it when a woman who was about to be assaulted or hurt manages to either hurt or kill the guy who was about to do evil unto them. And I really don't like shows or series where woman get assaulted and violated anyways but when they do have a scene where she gets away and starts trying to flee I'm always cheering for her to go back and finish the mf off so he can't get up and give himself a shake and then pursue her which seems to be a standard set piece scenario. So while all you seem to be giving yourselves a case of the vapors about movies and books showing woman defending themselves or revenging themselves aggressively I'm over here cheering them on to grab that brick and put the arsewipes BRAINS on the floor with it! :)

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Zebedee Saunt
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I may be deluded, but I think this says more about your friends and colleagues than it says about the population at large.

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elStiJneriNO
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Am i sexist if i prefer no violence at all? Either combination of sexes- violence never amuses me. Probably gonna make some people call me an incel. But that might just mean some people lack some imagination.

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Doubleheader
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That should be how it is, but the problem right now is that the scales are tipped more onto one side than the other. It's the perpetual idea that women are treated as victims and men are treated as emotionless monsters in society. This is something that is deeply rooted and needs to be addressed. It affects our biases, and affects outcomes in the court. Example: Child Custody hearings often favor the mother more, because they are seen as natural caregivers and victims (even if they necessarily aren't). It's something deeply rooted in patriarchal society in the west and it affects everyone.

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John Lun
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Isn't it strange when they do real-life experiments on this subject, not the movies, like actual real life. That female violence on men people are laughing away and do not intervene, not this fragility you bang on about. My guess is real life is not like the movies, go figure.

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sofacushionfort
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Think about William Pettit, the Connecticut doctor who lie beaten and bound while his wife and daughters were raped and murdered. Think of Hal Rogers, who sent his wife and daughters on a Florida vacation where they were tied to cinderblocks and drown in Tampa Bay. Think about all us men who love and manage relationships with women who’ve survived horrific abuse. What, if you give a damn, do you suppose we think of the Hollywood multimillionaires who churn out the latest trend of “men bad, women good” pablum of self-pity and violent revenge? How do you think we feel, just trying to move forward in support of survival, when these artforms only offer us the roles of sadistic monsters or ineffectual weaklings?

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elStiJneriNO
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Just watch Avengers Endgame. And see how the women f**k it up in the final fight. Lucky Tony is there to save the day

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OhForSmegSake
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We were talking about horror movies at a party when I said how much I loved the movie Teeth. A few of the guys made disapproving faces/noises, one guy called me a "sick f**k". The girls, on the other hand, all nodded.

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Dan E
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think the op needs to meet more men. I also think that the folks who claim to want to end gender stereotypes but post about gender stereotypes in a way that promotes them deserve to live under the gender stereotypes they promote but claim to want to end.

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King Joffrey
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm a man but I think I'm the other way round on this topic. I'm broadly speaking indifferent about onscreen violence against men whereas violence against women makes my blood boil...

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Kitti B.
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I call this BS. One of them is a Tarantino fan and this person still calls him out. Hey, have you watched Kill Bill? That's basically about a woman who kills everyone. When you see things that aren't there....

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Michael Beswick
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I guess you never heard of the femdom genera then lol!? I'm not sure that a scan of Tumblr what is the best representation of people's true attitudes. Although violence against women maybe portrayed more in TV and film, it's because of the twist in pleasure in being disgusted. In real life is been demonstrated many time that bystanders step in when a man appears to be abusing a women in public, as society has a naturally disgust towards it; but if a woman appears to be abusing a man in public people will simply watch or in many cases find the situation amusing. You would be forgiven for thinking that it's only weak men that find themselves in such a situation, but the reality is is the big you are as a guy why the more bias towards you. There's no question the men are responsible for more abuse than women, it's important to remember that 40% of domestic abuse is actually against men.

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Yayaboobo
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

One more. The girl from my hometown Ma' Khia Bryant who was shot by the police officer was across the board dismissed as deserving to be shot and killed by the officer all with prejudgement about what was going on before the shooting. Had this been a black man the sentiment would've been "He didn't deserve the death penalty for this!" Some people in the black community rallied for her cause but more spike out against her, a 15 year old child.

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KoalaLa
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The older I get, the more I regret I'm into men. I don't like men. I don't want to like men.

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elStiJneriNO
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We just discussed in the weekly man club. It's okay, you can stop liking us. We voted

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Sky Render
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And here I used to think something was weird about me that I didn't like seeing men being violent toward women but felt a cathartic sense of justice when a woman got a good swipe at a man...

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Son of Philosoraptor
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In the martial arts community we treasure the moments when women can be tough non-victims. Of course my daughter in law competes in jiu jitsu, so there you go...

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Wysteria_Rose
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I actually had a professor in undergrad (we are still in contact and good friends to this day) who led a class on women in film and this topic was a huge point during it. I even did a paper over Jennifer's Body, and we had a lot of talks about the evolution of how women were treated in films long ago and how things either haven't changed today or have in certain stand-alone films. He definitely is one of the goods ones and acknowledges the ones who cringe at the flipped script with disappointment.

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Stille20
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This argument is weak. It talks about two horror movies. ..gather more than two data points and your dad's opinion.

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damal24011
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There's a TV miniseries of Naomi Alderman's "The Power" in production. It will be very interesting to see the reaction to that.

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Artime Silk
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't know if I agree with this. Especially given the recent episode with Johnny Depp and Amber Heard and a myriad of other cases where women have been predators to men or young boys. This doesn't see like a study, just someone's anectodal eveidence and everyone agreeing with it. I personally dislike Carol Danvers, not because she beats up men but because she's insufferable. She's not 'unapologetically feministic', she's just unlikeable. Wonder woman is a powerful badass but still shows empathy and compassion. I'd much rather emulate her than Carol. Or maybe I'm getting confused between Carol and Brie Larsson who is also annoying.

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Kat Didemus
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Depp was violent to women, and was a little chastised for it, then the news about Amber came out and it completely over-shadowed the ways Depp has abused people (eps. women) almost immediately. You even have people doubting or forgetting that Depp was ever abusive in his own right, just like you seem to have done. Studies have shown that the few times female abuse males, it gets way more media coverage than the constant (it would be constant if the news reported all incidents) of male on female abuse. This creates a sense that females commit more abuse than female really do (which next to male-perpetrated abuse is almost nothing), and that we do it as often as males do, or that we are as likely to be violent or sexually abusive as they are, which are both patently false. I suggest you look up anti-female biases in the media before you cement your opinions on this matter.

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Teresa Barbosa
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I agree. "Promising young woman" does the interesting exercise of reversing the roles, for a minute and its furthering the discussion albeit labelled a 'revenge' movie.

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blugeagua
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This entire piece is fantastic and unfortunately absolutely true. A lot of men (not all of course) are extremely fragile about their masculinity and get so upset when women fight back. It's really pathetic of them. It makes me want to ask them, WHY are you okay with violence depicted toward women but the second its done to men, by women, its too much? (Though sadly I think we know the answer)

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Rhys Langdon
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No, it is the other way around, and ALL OF YOU DIPSHITS KNOW IT. in fact, a WOMAN BEATING UP A MAN IS VIEWED AS FUNNY, WHILE A MAN PUNCHING A WOMAN, EVEN OUT OF SELF DEFENSE, is seen as unnacceptable. I am almost certain women abuse men more than the other way around, but the abused men stay silent, as they know that if they speak up, THEY will GET INTO TROUBLE!! I refuse to believe that anyone of you worthless pieces of s**t actually believes what you have said, and I refuse to believe that you DON'T all KNOW I AM right. MALE victims of worldwide violence are 90% (FACTS! DON'T ARGUE), and yet ALL THE LAWS SURROUNDING VIOLENCE ARE ABOUT FEMALE VICTIMS.

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Artemisia
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah this is literally a product of the patriarchal “men strong, women weak” 💀 men dig their own graves and complain the whole time

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Rhys Langdon
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No, it is the EXACT OPPOSITE AND YOU ALL KNOW IT!! in fact, a woman beating up a man is seen as FUNNY while the a man beating up a woman is seen as unnacceptable. I REFUSE TO BELIEVE THAT ANY ONE OF YOU A******S ACTUALLY THINKS THAT WHAT IS SAID IN THIS ARTICLE IS TRUE, AND NOT JUST DONE TO ANNOY PEOPLE.

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Donkey boi
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm not a lover of the horror genre, I find they all fit into 2 category's: Gore for the sake of gore & trying to be clever but just coming across boring. My partner likes the occasional horror film so I do sit through them. We watched a film called 'I spit on your grave'. Talking to a friend a few day later, he happened to mention the film saying it was 'messed up', I said 'Yeah I Know, but at least she got some revenge. I mean, her life will never be the same, but...' He look at me like I'd lost my mind. That was when I realised we were watching from different viewpoints.

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Quinn Alexander
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They don't want the idea going around that women could *gasp* fight back. It removes their ability to inflict fear onto women for wearing what they don't want you to, if you could easily just shatter his teeth for it.

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Kno
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As a person coming from a family where my father was abusive and violent, watching the movie Enough wasone of the greatest things. I still watch it. It is empowering and sometimes, even though I am by no means a violent person, I would really really like to punch my father in the face. Or any person who hurts anyone. I have never watched that movie with a male or talked about it, but with some women, well, there's a knowing look. I don't enjoy watching people getting hurt, especially innocent ones, but when justice is served, well, it is satisfying.

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Jill
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I wonder if this is sort a parallel of when dogs/cats get killed in movies? I mean the people get killed and I'm like fine, but when the dogs gets it, I can't take it anymore!

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Kat Didemus
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think the better comparison would be a dog killed vs a cow killed to be eaten. One offends people, the other everyone just shrugs. Actually! This reminds me that there was a cow herd that trampled their farmer to death, and it felt like kind of revenge in a way, just like when a female retaliates to male violence.

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Solidhog
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What this really highlights is many people's inability to see past their conceptions of human gender. We don't look at a lioness killing it's prey and think "OMG! That female animal is killing something." We just accept it as part of nature. A woman is just as capable of performing the same inhumane acts as a man, and many do.

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Kat Didemus
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

But there are differences between the sexes, and while females are capable of some of the things men do, like rape for example, we are far less likely to commit these acts. We're talking orders of magnitude less likely. They make the news because 1) in a misogynist society there is an anti-female bias in the media and 2) it's so unusual as to be news-worthy. Almost all female perpetrators of sexual violence have male accomplices, while almost all male perps have no female accomplice. When you get into violent and sexual crimes, the percentages of crimes committed by males is in the high 90s%. It's not 56%, or 64%, which female crimes making almost-but-less-than half, it's more like 98%. The way you're talking about the female (human) capacity for killing is to make sound as if females are *just* as likely, or almost as likely, to commit these acts as males. Nothing could be further from the truth. Look at prison stats in the UK; in female prisons, there are almost no violent offenders.

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Luke Oakridge
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is literally the opposite of the reality in our society. In movies today, if a woman is violent toward a man, it is usually presented either as comedy or as a "girl power" moment or as something he "deserved". If a man is violent toward a woman, he is presented as an abuser. This article is really misguided and misses the true problem.

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kurisutofu
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Men are so stupid, I know it because I'm one of them, even though I have no problem with "woman violence". Violence is violence, it has no gender. In "Jennifer's body", especially, it then makes more sense. If an evil entity or something wanted to kill just for fun, that'd make more sense to be a woman. It's easier to attract the victims since men would do anything just to get a chance with a woman. But even without this, Jennifer is evil and all, but this is because she was murdered (if I remember correctly) so it perfectly shows the point of the discussion. Men ignored the murder but focus on the woman killing men...

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Alexis Draskinis
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Id, personally, make all of them watch Teeth & Audition all day long! Great flix!

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El Dee
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sometimes something is SO obvious that you can't see it..

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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I’m sorry, I lost it when I read the words “a girl whose vag could bite”. I. Am. SCREAMING!

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DARKNIGHT131
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In the photo on the left there’s a guy checking the girl in the middle out, creep

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Laura Craig
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ohhh, yet another round of man bashing from Panda? Must be the weekend

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Demon Child
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

it's not man-bashing, its bringing attention to double standards and more misogyny in society...but if its to hard of a topic for you then go to the cutest dog posts, that's lighthearted and innocent.

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Max Power
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What woke crap. Divide and conquer strategy is being played out across the world and you lot are promoting it. This website is full of woke sheep that can't even comprehend the reality they are in. They deserve the the jab. Joke ;) No one does, it's poison.

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nicholas nolan
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Hmm. Trumpyist bouquet. Notes of rage comic 2008. Bit bland on the back of the palette. Weak throughout, particularly on the finish. Poorly trolled.

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No they weren't. They were actually talking about it being good. That is to say if it's being delivered to a man.

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Lol. You can tell this was written by a chick.

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Eliška Hůlková
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As a person that enjoys old literature, I feel the need to remark that I don't feel like the violence against women in it is as bad as this sort of articles make it seem. In my experience, misogyny tends to be worse in modern popular culture than in centuries-old high art. Your experience (and your definition of misogyny) may vary though.

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another one
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You might look up Rubens' The Rape of the Sabine Women (the subject was a favourite and repainted by many, many other famous male artists), the Rape of Persephone (from ancient Rome forwards another favourite by male artists), etc. Raping women was a favourite topic of artists throughout the last 2000 years.

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Yeahh I dont know what youve all been watching, but even horror movies (which females enjoy for more than males) a crazy male killer isnt a good thing. If women want to be tough and fight in movies than do it. I Love seeing a woman f**k a guy up for attacking her. Dont be a victim

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What a load of rubbish. Where is this millennia worth of female torture "high" art that people are aspiring to? Whenever male on female violence is presented, the person committing the violence is clearly shown as being a bad person, when stories like Blue Beard or The Bloody Chamber in which you have a misogynist taking out his evil on women, you don't have readers cheering him on, it's not Wish Fulfilment it's suppose to be disturbing. I have not seen J.Body but I have seen Gone Girl and I am yet to meet anyone that had a problem with the film. If perhaps you are finding people that are complaining about it, the issue may not be with the film itself but rather your reaction too these films.

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You're a complete f*****g moron if you think that it's OK for anybody to be violent towards anybody. Grow up and get past your militant feminism.

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Gin Marie
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Jackson had his mind (such as it is) made up and didn't bother even reading the article.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I loved this piece. It is a perfect example of male fragility. The idea that men are outraged by violent, empowered women on-screen, while finding media violence against women palatable infuriates me. The hypocrisy is so blatant. I witnessed a flame war on Reddit in response to a posted video where a woman admitted to being sexist against men. She was merely stating her opinion that she didn't like men "as a whole". Men responded by calling her a whore and with death threats. Disliking men as a group does not equate to advocating for violence against men, yet the men responded as if it did. Male fragility endangers women.

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Gin Marie
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Call it what it is: guilt. It's like cops who shoot innocent black people or those guys who claim all rape accusations are false. It's a confession. They're afraid of tables turning because they have skeletons in their closets. Also, ever notice that the guys who scream, "Women do it TOO!" are ONLY interested in women attacking men? Never women vs. women or male vs. male? Or how they'd rather bitch about how women owe them rather than ACTUALLY help men? We had a guy in my city found a shelter for battered men. Every ex wife and child of his had a restraining order against him. He had been violent---only toward women and children---his whole life. And now that I'm actually far off topic, batterers like to claim that they need shelter so they can find out where the shelters and their victims are.

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You could use your own "clever" reply here too "That's a lot of words to say you're the lousiest f**k in the world, and likely a Trumpie." I like this kind of intelligent humor of you

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In teeth what set her off is how she was raped by a guy she trusted and then every guy she assaulted after that was trying to hurt her in some way. It’s not like she went out looking to assault men (except the poor doctor who was by all means an accident), she only assaulted the ones who hurt her. It’s a really good movie, but very graphic

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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I didn't know this aspect of crippling, fragile masculinity existed in men, but it makes sense. Have seen this from a lot of male audience: any fight/argument that breaks out between men in a movie is "Aww yeah! That guy is bad ass!" but the exact same behavior from a woman vs man or woman vs woman gets "Yikes! Bitches be crazy!" Sigh...

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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think what annoys me is that female-to-male violence seems to be more played for comedy. In the music video for Alexander Rybak's OAH, a woman hits a man who's asking for a date and it's all "hah hah is funny". But the entire video is about a man who's stalking a woman and that's treated as "hah hah is funny" as well, but (just about) falls short of actual violence. The flip side is his music video for Leave Me Alone, where a woman stalking a man ends up in a mental institution. I think the men in this article are (mostly) reacting to and calling out genuine and unfair double standards, but massively ignoring all the genuine and unfair double standards that advantage them. I think men as a whole need to learn that the best way to stop women "getting away with bad behaviour" is to deal with the way that men treat women first, and then they'll see just how much male-aimed unfair behaviour disappears.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

yeah i agree. The anime trope of oh haha female character angry for no reason she punches all the dudes is also not ok. Both sides are true. This article focuses on the fragile dudes, but the making fun of (generally domestic) violence towards men is not cool.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think maybe the reason I like Kira Nerys (star trek ds9) so much is because it is rather unusually for ladies to be portrayed as strong...she frequently will beat up and knock out men taller than her, and in military uniform. I also like Jadzia Dax, probably because she fights better than many klingons...at their own techniques. It just unusual, and I like film/literature that deviates from the norm. I hate that most stories (when stripped down to a 3 sentence description) are identical

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danielw
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If you like Kira, you'll enjoy Babylon Five. both Susan Ivanova and Delenn are.... incredibly strong characters in their way. (my current favorite line comes from Delenn, saving the day. "If you value your lives, Be. Some. Where. Else." she's normally the calm, rational one. (also, just as a side note... Walter Koenig plays a seriously awesome bad guy.)

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Nikki Owens
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm not sure about the conclusions drawn from this; they seem to be the result of confirmation bias. What's overlooked in the analysis is that generally, male-on-female predation & violence are depicted in films as something villainous, while female-on-male predation & violence are depicted as something to celebrate & cheer on. That in itself is a double standard, & I think it probably has a lot to do with men's reactions.

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Leo Domitrix
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I disagree. See: "Fatal Attraction"; "Basic Instinct"; etc. In those, female on male predation was depicted as villainous.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

i did read the article, and i'm sure it's right in many ways, but i have to say that i spent my childhood watching tv thinking "oh look, another 20 guys just got blown away and nobody seems to care, meanwhile the one evil woman gets bopped on the chin, collapses, and is put in handcuffs." I don't really trust my own recollections because i was brought up in a household with very set gender ideas, but i have this feeling that it's all a lot more complicated than most people seem to think. i don't even think our society is ready to have a full and honest discussion of these things and it makes me sad. i'll be long dead before people can just be people, i think.

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Gin Marie
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You know, there ARE books that could tell you that men get raised to be conceited, selfish, view women as prey toys, train in violence, and commit nine violent crimes for every ONE women do. You could notice that women are SMALLER than men, and that using "equal" force on unequal-sized people is not equal AT ALL? Also, TV IS NOT REAL. Also, those TV shows are being WRITTEN BY MEN.

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Daniel Marsh
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Never once in my entire life have I ever heard a guy complain about movies depicting woman-on-man violence with two exceptions: 1) smashing testicles as comedy and 2) noting that smashing someone over the head with a cast-iron frying pan (a once-common comedy trope) would probably cause permanent damage.

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N G
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The frying pan is an interesting one. In Tangled, for example, the frying pan is the weapon of choice ("I have got to get me one of these!") The hits to the head are played out as comic and very much in the style of it being a cartoon - almost Tom and Jerry like. The [spoiler for an 11-year-old movie] stabbing though is treated with utter seriousness. Though in a movie about magic hair, one probably shouldn't examine things too closely...

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is, actually, evidence of a much greater problem and not one mentioned here - the fact that no one seems capable to perceive women as violent. Even in these movies, the men they kill 'had it coming", unlike many female victims in "regular" slasher movies. The problem with women-monsters in these movies is the fact that they are "empowered" and not simply monsters like Freddy Krueger and the likes.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's the perpetual idea that women must remain as victims. Particularly white women. It becomes especially bad in cases where you hear about real-life women "fighting back" to protect themselves from an attacker (self-defense), and getting the whole book thrown at them because they shattered that perception. This is particularly something that POC in the US face. All too often I've read stories of black women being thrown in jail for fending off attackers.

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Yayaboobo
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I worked in a prison system and the women barely had visitors even though most had children, husbands and/or partners before they'd been incarcerated. The men? Well they had to have lists of people on rotation. It was so sad women are often ostracized when they commit crimes.

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Lorraine R
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

On TV, women being able to take men down is becoming somewhat more common. There was ex-Mossad agent Ziva David in NCIS (seasons 3-11), and "Person of Interest" had two: Root and Shaw, who were not only good shots but experts in close-quarters combat as well. Now we have the new "Equalizer" played by Queen Latifah. But before all of these, and setting media in a new path in terms of action, was Ripley in "Aliens". I can still remember the outrage of one male critic who found her strength and courage highly offensive. He, and men like him, need to stop expecting women in media and in real life to conform to their ridiculous and inhumane standards.

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It is very common to see women fighting men and the show treating the women as empowered. But it is very rare to see a man fighting a woman and see the man treated as empowered. That's the double standard.

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René Studer
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This confuses me deeply. Who are these men? I have never ever seen a man who was shocked or uncomfortable by a women being violent towards men in fiction just because its a woman doing violent stuff. Never. Where do you find these guys?

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Deborah B
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think Teeth upsets men, because it makes them think about how the women around them would respond to sexual violence if they had the capability.

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Kat Didemus
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Luckily a brilliant woman in South Africa invented a female condom that women can wear that is basically actual vagina dentata. Rape is so endemic there, that some women are wearing vaginal teeth to flay the penis of their rapist, which if you ask me is kinder than any rapist deserves, but I'll take what I can get.

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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I just don't get it. Why are men so very very afraid of women? Men have all the political power. Men have all the physical power. Men have all the psychological power. Yet they are so afraid of women. So very afraid. Is it because they know that once women realise that they no longer need men then women will rise and take back the matriarchy that it used to be? Each generation of men are becoming more and more obsolete. These 70 year old male politicians are nearing their end date. Sperm is easily stored... Women won't need men much longer. In 100 years, unless men change... then they will be obsolete... and the new men will be raised by women to be proper human beings... that is why they are afraid... they are afraid of losing power. Unless they adapt they are done. But they don't want to adapt, they want to maintain power no matter how much it hurts women. Even if it means destroying life as we know it. And now... here come the drums here come the drums. Please don't take this too seriously, boys. Just locker room talk.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Personally I've never given a second thought about woman-on-man violence, like in Misery, so I'm likely missing something here: but are we sure the male reaction is because it's being perpetrated by a woman, and not that they are just reacting to the violence itself? The scene in Reservoir Dogs with torturing the cop haunts me just because I feel like I can identify with the dude getting tortured, not because of the gender/race of the torturer. Are we sure this whole perception isn't confirmation bias, i.e. we pay attention to when men are squiked out by women and forget the examples like in Reservoir Dogs?

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Al Kenny
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I dunno, not being a sensitive new age male sort I've always enjoyed it when a woman who was about to be assaulted or hurt manages to either hurt or kill the guy who was about to do evil unto them. And I really don't like shows or series where woman get assaulted and violated anyways but when they do have a scene where she gets away and starts trying to flee I'm always cheering for her to go back and finish the mf off so he can't get up and give himself a shake and then pursue her which seems to be a standard set piece scenario. So while all you seem to be giving yourselves a case of the vapors about movies and books showing woman defending themselves or revenging themselves aggressively I'm over here cheering them on to grab that brick and put the arsewipes BRAINS on the floor with it! :)

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Zebedee Saunt
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I may be deluded, but I think this says more about your friends and colleagues than it says about the population at large.

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elStiJneriNO
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Am i sexist if i prefer no violence at all? Either combination of sexes- violence never amuses me. Probably gonna make some people call me an incel. But that might just mean some people lack some imagination.

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Doubleheader
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That should be how it is, but the problem right now is that the scales are tipped more onto one side than the other. It's the perpetual idea that women are treated as victims and men are treated as emotionless monsters in society. This is something that is deeply rooted and needs to be addressed. It affects our biases, and affects outcomes in the court. Example: Child Custody hearings often favor the mother more, because they are seen as natural caregivers and victims (even if they necessarily aren't). It's something deeply rooted in patriarchal society in the west and it affects everyone.

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John Lun
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Isn't it strange when they do real-life experiments on this subject, not the movies, like actual real life. That female violence on men people are laughing away and do not intervene, not this fragility you bang on about. My guess is real life is not like the movies, go figure.

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sofacushionfort
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Think about William Pettit, the Connecticut doctor who lie beaten and bound while his wife and daughters were raped and murdered. Think of Hal Rogers, who sent his wife and daughters on a Florida vacation where they were tied to cinderblocks and drown in Tampa Bay. Think about all us men who love and manage relationships with women who’ve survived horrific abuse. What, if you give a damn, do you suppose we think of the Hollywood multimillionaires who churn out the latest trend of “men bad, women good” pablum of self-pity and violent revenge? How do you think we feel, just trying to move forward in support of survival, when these artforms only offer us the roles of sadistic monsters or ineffectual weaklings?

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elStiJneriNO
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Just watch Avengers Endgame. And see how the women f**k it up in the final fight. Lucky Tony is there to save the day

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We were talking about horror movies at a party when I said how much I loved the movie Teeth. A few of the guys made disapproving faces/noises, one guy called me a "sick f**k". The girls, on the other hand, all nodded.

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Dan E
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think the op needs to meet more men. I also think that the folks who claim to want to end gender stereotypes but post about gender stereotypes in a way that promotes them deserve to live under the gender stereotypes they promote but claim to want to end.

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King Joffrey
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm a man but I think I'm the other way round on this topic. I'm broadly speaking indifferent about onscreen violence against men whereas violence against women makes my blood boil...

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Kitti B.
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I call this BS. One of them is a Tarantino fan and this person still calls him out. Hey, have you watched Kill Bill? That's basically about a woman who kills everyone. When you see things that aren't there....

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Michael Beswick
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I guess you never heard of the femdom genera then lol!? I'm not sure that a scan of Tumblr what is the best representation of people's true attitudes. Although violence against women maybe portrayed more in TV and film, it's because of the twist in pleasure in being disgusted. In real life is been demonstrated many time that bystanders step in when a man appears to be abusing a women in public, as society has a naturally disgust towards it; but if a woman appears to be abusing a man in public people will simply watch or in many cases find the situation amusing. You would be forgiven for thinking that it's only weak men that find themselves in such a situation, but the reality is is the big you are as a guy why the more bias towards you. There's no question the men are responsible for more abuse than women, it's important to remember that 40% of domestic abuse is actually against men.

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Yayaboobo
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

One more. The girl from my hometown Ma' Khia Bryant who was shot by the police officer was across the board dismissed as deserving to be shot and killed by the officer all with prejudgement about what was going on before the shooting. Had this been a black man the sentiment would've been "He didn't deserve the death penalty for this!" Some people in the black community rallied for her cause but more spike out against her, a 15 year old child.

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KoalaLa
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The older I get, the more I regret I'm into men. I don't like men. I don't want to like men.

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elStiJneriNO
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We just discussed in the weekly man club. It's okay, you can stop liking us. We voted

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Sky Render
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And here I used to think something was weird about me that I didn't like seeing men being violent toward women but felt a cathartic sense of justice when a woman got a good swipe at a man...

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Son of Philosoraptor
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In the martial arts community we treasure the moments when women can be tough non-victims. Of course my daughter in law competes in jiu jitsu, so there you go...

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I actually had a professor in undergrad (we are still in contact and good friends to this day) who led a class on women in film and this topic was a huge point during it. I even did a paper over Jennifer's Body, and we had a lot of talks about the evolution of how women were treated in films long ago and how things either haven't changed today or have in certain stand-alone films. He definitely is one of the goods ones and acknowledges the ones who cringe at the flipped script with disappointment.

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Stille20
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This argument is weak. It talks about two horror movies. ..gather more than two data points and your dad's opinion.

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damal24011
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There's a TV miniseries of Naomi Alderman's "The Power" in production. It will be very interesting to see the reaction to that.

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Artime Silk
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't know if I agree with this. Especially given the recent episode with Johnny Depp and Amber Heard and a myriad of other cases where women have been predators to men or young boys. This doesn't see like a study, just someone's anectodal eveidence and everyone agreeing with it. I personally dislike Carol Danvers, not because she beats up men but because she's insufferable. She's not 'unapologetically feministic', she's just unlikeable. Wonder woman is a powerful badass but still shows empathy and compassion. I'd much rather emulate her than Carol. Or maybe I'm getting confused between Carol and Brie Larsson who is also annoying.

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Kat Didemus
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Depp was violent to women, and was a little chastised for it, then the news about Amber came out and it completely over-shadowed the ways Depp has abused people (eps. women) almost immediately. You even have people doubting or forgetting that Depp was ever abusive in his own right, just like you seem to have done. Studies have shown that the few times female abuse males, it gets way more media coverage than the constant (it would be constant if the news reported all incidents) of male on female abuse. This creates a sense that females commit more abuse than female really do (which next to male-perpetrated abuse is almost nothing), and that we do it as often as males do, or that we are as likely to be violent or sexually abusive as they are, which are both patently false. I suggest you look up anti-female biases in the media before you cement your opinions on this matter.

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Teresa Barbosa
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I agree. "Promising young woman" does the interesting exercise of reversing the roles, for a minute and its furthering the discussion albeit labelled a 'revenge' movie.

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blugeagua
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This entire piece is fantastic and unfortunately absolutely true. A lot of men (not all of course) are extremely fragile about their masculinity and get so upset when women fight back. It's really pathetic of them. It makes me want to ask them, WHY are you okay with violence depicted toward women but the second its done to men, by women, its too much? (Though sadly I think we know the answer)

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Rhys Langdon
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No, it is the other way around, and ALL OF YOU DIPSHITS KNOW IT. in fact, a WOMAN BEATING UP A MAN IS VIEWED AS FUNNY, WHILE A MAN PUNCHING A WOMAN, EVEN OUT OF SELF DEFENSE, is seen as unnacceptable. I am almost certain women abuse men more than the other way around, but the abused men stay silent, as they know that if they speak up, THEY will GET INTO TROUBLE!! I refuse to believe that anyone of you worthless pieces of s**t actually believes what you have said, and I refuse to believe that you DON'T all KNOW I AM right. MALE victims of worldwide violence are 90% (FACTS! DON'T ARGUE), and yet ALL THE LAWS SURROUNDING VIOLENCE ARE ABOUT FEMALE VICTIMS.

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Artemisia
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah this is literally a product of the patriarchal “men strong, women weak” 💀 men dig their own graves and complain the whole time

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Rhys Langdon
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No, it is the EXACT OPPOSITE AND YOU ALL KNOW IT!! in fact, a woman beating up a man is seen as FUNNY while the a man beating up a woman is seen as unnacceptable. I REFUSE TO BELIEVE THAT ANY ONE OF YOU A******S ACTUALLY THINKS THAT WHAT IS SAID IN THIS ARTICLE IS TRUE, AND NOT JUST DONE TO ANNOY PEOPLE.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm not a lover of the horror genre, I find they all fit into 2 category's: Gore for the sake of gore & trying to be clever but just coming across boring. My partner likes the occasional horror film so I do sit through them. We watched a film called 'I spit on your grave'. Talking to a friend a few day later, he happened to mention the film saying it was 'messed up', I said 'Yeah I Know, but at least she got some revenge. I mean, her life will never be the same, but...' He look at me like I'd lost my mind. That was when I realised we were watching from different viewpoints.

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Quinn Alexander
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They don't want the idea going around that women could *gasp* fight back. It removes their ability to inflict fear onto women for wearing what they don't want you to, if you could easily just shatter his teeth for it.

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Kno
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As a person coming from a family where my father was abusive and violent, watching the movie Enough wasone of the greatest things. I still watch it. It is empowering and sometimes, even though I am by no means a violent person, I would really really like to punch my father in the face. Or any person who hurts anyone. I have never watched that movie with a male or talked about it, but with some women, well, there's a knowing look. I don't enjoy watching people getting hurt, especially innocent ones, but when justice is served, well, it is satisfying.

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Jill
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I wonder if this is sort a parallel of when dogs/cats get killed in movies? I mean the people get killed and I'm like fine, but when the dogs gets it, I can't take it anymore!

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Kat Didemus
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think the better comparison would be a dog killed vs a cow killed to be eaten. One offends people, the other everyone just shrugs. Actually! This reminds me that there was a cow herd that trampled their farmer to death, and it felt like kind of revenge in a way, just like when a female retaliates to male violence.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What this really highlights is many people's inability to see past their conceptions of human gender. We don't look at a lioness killing it's prey and think "OMG! That female animal is killing something." We just accept it as part of nature. A woman is just as capable of performing the same inhumane acts as a man, and many do.

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Kat Didemus
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

But there are differences between the sexes, and while females are capable of some of the things men do, like rape for example, we are far less likely to commit these acts. We're talking orders of magnitude less likely. They make the news because 1) in a misogynist society there is an anti-female bias in the media and 2) it's so unusual as to be news-worthy. Almost all female perpetrators of sexual violence have male accomplices, while almost all male perps have no female accomplice. When you get into violent and sexual crimes, the percentages of crimes committed by males is in the high 90s%. It's not 56%, or 64%, which female crimes making almost-but-less-than half, it's more like 98%. The way you're talking about the female (human) capacity for killing is to make sound as if females are *just* as likely, or almost as likely, to commit these acts as males. Nothing could be further from the truth. Look at prison stats in the UK; in female prisons, there are almost no violent offenders.

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Luke Oakridge
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is literally the opposite of the reality in our society. In movies today, if a woman is violent toward a man, it is usually presented either as comedy or as a "girl power" moment or as something he "deserved". If a man is violent toward a woman, he is presented as an abuser. This article is really misguided and misses the true problem.

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kurisutofu
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Men are so stupid, I know it because I'm one of them, even though I have no problem with "woman violence". Violence is violence, it has no gender. In "Jennifer's body", especially, it then makes more sense. If an evil entity or something wanted to kill just for fun, that'd make more sense to be a woman. It's easier to attract the victims since men would do anything just to get a chance with a woman. But even without this, Jennifer is evil and all, but this is because she was murdered (if I remember correctly) so it perfectly shows the point of the discussion. Men ignored the murder but focus on the woman killing men...

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Alexis Draskinis
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Id, personally, make all of them watch Teeth & Audition all day long! Great flix!

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El Dee
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sometimes something is SO obvious that you can't see it..

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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I’m sorry, I lost it when I read the words “a girl whose vag could bite”. I. Am. SCREAMING!

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DARKNIGHT131
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In the photo on the left there’s a guy checking the girl in the middle out, creep

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Laura Craig
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ohhh, yet another round of man bashing from Panda? Must be the weekend

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Demon Child
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

it's not man-bashing, its bringing attention to double standards and more misogyny in society...but if its to hard of a topic for you then go to the cutest dog posts, that's lighthearted and innocent.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What woke crap. Divide and conquer strategy is being played out across the world and you lot are promoting it. This website is full of woke sheep that can't even comprehend the reality they are in. They deserve the the jab. Joke ;) No one does, it's poison.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Hmm. Trumpyist bouquet. Notes of rage comic 2008. Bit bland on the back of the palette. Weak throughout, particularly on the finish. Poorly trolled.

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Jackson Gohn
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No they weren't. They were actually talking about it being good. That is to say if it's being delivered to a man.

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Ben Smith
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Lol. You can tell this was written by a chick.

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Eliška Hůlková
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As a person that enjoys old literature, I feel the need to remark that I don't feel like the violence against women in it is as bad as this sort of articles make it seem. In my experience, misogyny tends to be worse in modern popular culture than in centuries-old high art. Your experience (and your definition of misogyny) may vary though.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You might look up Rubens' The Rape of the Sabine Women (the subject was a favourite and repainted by many, many other famous male artists), the Rape of Persephone (from ancient Rome forwards another favourite by male artists), etc. Raping women was a favourite topic of artists throughout the last 2000 years.

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Yeahh I dont know what youve all been watching, but even horror movies (which females enjoy for more than males) a crazy male killer isnt a good thing. If women want to be tough and fight in movies than do it. I Love seeing a woman f**k a guy up for attacking her. Dont be a victim

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What a load of rubbish. Where is this millennia worth of female torture "high" art that people are aspiring to? Whenever male on female violence is presented, the person committing the violence is clearly shown as being a bad person, when stories like Blue Beard or The Bloody Chamber in which you have a misogynist taking out his evil on women, you don't have readers cheering him on, it's not Wish Fulfilment it's suppose to be disturbing. I have not seen J.Body but I have seen Gone Girl and I am yet to meet anyone that had a problem with the film. If perhaps you are finding people that are complaining about it, the issue may not be with the film itself but rather your reaction too these films.

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You're a complete f*****g moron if you think that it's OK for anybody to be violent towards anybody. Grow up and get past your militant feminism.

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Gin Marie
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Jackson had his mind (such as it is) made up and didn't bother even reading the article.

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