Employee Shares Screenshots Of His Manager Completely Losing It After He Refused To Come In On His Day Off
Let’s face it, almost everyone has lived through a situation where it’s hard to say “no” to your boss. But when they expect to reach you at any given time of the day and demand you drop everything and run straight to work, standing up for yourself becomes a whole lot easier.
Today, we’re diving deep into a work drama that started after a manager had a proper meltdown in texts to an employee who refused to come in on his day off. User OnlyFansMod shared screenshots of their interaction in a series of posts on the Anti Work subreddit, exposing his entitled boss who went to great lengths to manipulate him to get what she wanted.
You see, the manager was desperate to find someone to cover for another worker who called in sick. Even when the user stood by his principles, she just kept going. “This is unacceptable,” she wrote. “We expect a higher standard of behavior from you.” As you can guess, that didn’t go well with the author. Read on to find out how the situation unfolded.
Recently, this worker posted a text conversation with his manager who lost it after he refused to come in on his day off
Later on, the manager found the posts shaming her online and demanded he take them down
The author’s story received quite the attention from fellow members of the Anti Work community, with the final post amassing more than 37.4k upvotes in just a few days. Redditors seem to be appalled by the way the manager treated the user. Some even pointed out it was seriously inappropriate of her to call her employee’s tasks “low-level” since more often than not, such work is critical for the business.
The manager might not realize it, but the way she treats her employees can tell others a great deal about how she sees herself. Feeling the need to manipulate the author, threatening to have a meeting with someone (probably a higher manager) about his behavior, and straight-up insulting them when they stand their ground shows a complete lack of respect for the worker.
“[Redacted] put me on to cover your job all night and you know I absolutely hate doing it,” she wrote. Do I smell some serious entitlement issues right here? Believing that others’ work is beneath you because you’re somehow better or deserve more than them proves that you feel superior, and people rarely see that as a positive quality. Especially in a work environment.
“Entitled individuals view themselves as unique, and they believe that they should receive rewards and benefits, such as more money, better grades, or preferential treatment, regardless of their performance or effort in comparison with others,” Emily Zitek, a professor at Cornell University’s School of Industrial and Labor Relations, told Bored Panda in a previous interview.
In her research, Zitek found that “entitled individuals are more selfish, follow instructions less often, are more likely to think things that are unpleasant for them are unfair, get angry about bad luck, and are less likely to comply with the health guidelines of the pandemic. But on the flip side, people who feel entitled can also be more creative and better at getting what they want in negotiations.”
Needless to say, interacting with such people can be challenging. “People who have to interact with entitled people report lower well-being and burnout.” So if you ever find yourself in such a situation, you “should remember that this person’s claims are not based on merit and that if [you] reject this person’s request, the person will likely get angry or upset.”
Well, it seems that it was exactly the case here. However, Zitek argues in one of her papers “that just giving in also isn’t a good solution because it could lead to more entitlement later.” Remember that when your boss insults or demeans you in any way, that is not acceptable. After all, everyone should feel respected and safe at their place of work.
Redditors quickly determined that her actions were inappropriate, here’s what they had to say
'Don't you dare slander me online'. OK one, it's not slander, it's libel; two, truth is an absolute defence against a libel case and they've got the actual messages; three, if you think people are going to stop using your company because someone showed how you treat your employees, maybe try treating your staff better you a*****e.
Not if it's a "right-to-work" or "at-will employment" state in the US. You can be fired for no reason* or warning and you can quit for no reason or no warning. ________ ________ *As long as they don't go against any discrimination laws.
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Low-level work? Wow, that manager has an inflated sense of their own importance. Also, you can't slander someone when you are simply displaying the words they have said. Slander is making false claims about someone verbally. Libel is the same but in writing. This person screwed themselves all by themselves.
This comment by the boss is harassment. I'd sue.
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Once encountered a manager in Sales who we in IT asked to do a couple of things for her account to work on her computer, which we had to ask the entire staff of the company to do, including the president. No one else had any issue at all with doing this, but this manager had somehow gotten it into her head that managers do not do any sort of work and was extremely angry we had asked her to type in a couple of things when that is "not part of the management role" whatever she thought that was. But it was stuff we had no business typing in for her. We just let her stew in her own stupid and entitled nuttiness until she realized she would no longer be able to work until she did what we asked and caved in.
Things like this even happen to salaried managers. I work in IT, responsible for system that operates 24/7. Even though I had a very qualified, responsible group that rotated on call responsibilities. My VP would expect me to come in if there was a production problem off hours. One Saturday night during my mother's 70th birthday party, they called me asking if I was coming in to support the group. I had taken that Friday off because my mother lives 350 miles from me and flew in for it. I wasn't in the office that Friday, which they were aware of. After trying to guilt me for several minutes, I asked if they were going to buy me an airline ticket to fly back early, they shut up quick. I reminded them, I wasn't in the office Friday, had already spoke to the person on call about the strategy to take, with agreement they could call me at anytime if there was an issue related to the solution. VP shut up pretty quick. The group said it was the best thing I did, none of them liked the VP.
About the boss checking to see if Batman was actually playing, I once had a boss call my doctor to see if I actually had an appointment on a day I called in sick. This was before the privacy laws unfortunately. But she sure showed me her true colors!
I had a manager threaten to fire me for missing my shift, when I had actually collapsed AT work and had to be rushed by ambulance to the hospital (middle of summer when temps are regularly 105-120 range) from heat exhaustion, and obviously couldn't go back to work that day, called work and my coworkers already had it worked out to cover my shift and appointments and said not to worry, then called the manager to let her know the situation. She didn't remain manager for long, and before that incident I was always going out if my way to help in the store when needed cause I didn't want anyone to be struggling or upset in there, so that was a definite slap to the face, but helped me become more firmer when it comes to myself.
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I manage and I prefer to do the sweeping, trash, and dirty work so that the people I work with don't have to so that it is a more pleasant place to work.
I manage and like the breaks of doing tasks I don't normally do.
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Sue for slander? What was slanderous? He copy and pasted the conversation, didn't make anything up, This manager is an idiot; all that extra work would have been better utilized doing the 'low-level' work. She should be fired ASAP.
She's a ridiculous vile POS, it's no surprise that he doesn't want to help her out. With a attitude like hers, I wouldn't pîss on her if she was on fire.
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Im so lucky my boss is the best. Even though she got promoted to VP, her replacement straight up quit last Friday and a team member was let go for moving to another country but not telling anyone and she took on all of their work herself. Whenever anything major happens, she doesn't dump it on us. She will then ask if I and the other senior person could help, which of course we always do because she's the best. But otherwise she gets down in the trenches with us even though she's way above us.
Bosses love to think you love the company to kill yourself for the opportunity to work at any chance. But they don't do it themselves. The rate should be time and a half for any work call in on a persons day off. Managers are the bane of the workforce. Yes they have lots to deal with but if someone says they can't make it in because it's their day off then leave them alone and go manage some how.
It would be one thing if they were actually understaffed and asked nicely, but it's literally the managers job to cover for employees when they call out. Also why would they try all their social media before their phone?
This manager is the type of person whom, assuming she has friends, uses favors against them. "I did that thing for you, so I'm calling you on it because I need this thing done for me." She deserves to be out in the cold on a regular basis until she takes a long look in the mirror and realizes "Damn, I'm a bítch." Even if this does happen here in the US, she could STILL be sued for actual abuse especially after dropping the C word. Evidence doesn't lie and emotional duress is still a thing here.
I would like to know how this "boss" got this position to begin with. Obviously, she is not able to do the job, is quite ignorant, and costing the business money.
Did everyone miss the part where she outright called him a c*nt!?! B***h should get fired over that!
At my last job, I was an hourly employee. If anyone from the office, boss or not, called me outside of my scheduled hours, I got paid for however long they kept me on the phone. Got a new boss 3 years in, and he called me when I was on vacation - 1,200 miles away at the beach. He kept me on the phone for almost 30 minutes, even tho I told him I couldn't help. When I got back to work, I casually mentioned to a co-worker that he had called me. She worked in HR & reported it. I got paid for the half hour, & my boss never called me outside of office hours again!
Had a boss like this who always expected me to come in last-minute. Like "I need you here in 5" last-minute. In the same way, cancelled/changed my shifts when things were slow. This happened sometimes several times a week. I was expected to always be on call, for no additional pay. Paid barely above minimum wage, too. Worked for them for 2 years, and I got a 20¢ raise. Hooray 😐 Finally I got furloughed b/c of covid restrictions. Then when I went to file unemployment, he asked me not to b/c the company'd have to pay a portion. Like ???? I need money to live, though?? Found a new job paying 50% more an hour within a couple weeks. Never going back to a situation like that again.
Did this entitled Emily Zitek actually throw out a "these people are less likely to comply with the health guidelines of the pandemic.? Ya, that's where I realized who your base is." " Zitek argues in one of her papers “that just giving in also isn’t a good solution because it could lead to more entitlement later.” <- -((this is the important part of what was said))
I totally support the now ex employee. I would have never acknowledged the supervisors message in the first place.
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When I was a manager working with people with Alzheimer's, I would go in to help shower people in my work dress if needed. I did everything needed including direct 24 hour care of covid positive residents. Managers like this are wretched. No excuse.
Suggestion~~keep a full set of clothes in your car. I did that while managing a Little Caesar's. I'd get stuck in town either because of work or weather. Best thing I ever did!
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His first mistake was responding. If it's my day off and I get a message like this, I ignore it. What are they going to do? If you're not available, don't respond. They have no leverage that way.
Although I know what it feels like having to work alone when everyone didn't show for their shifts at a donut franchise, there's really no reason to be immature and unprofessional about it. I take it the manager is young, perhaps too immature to know how to manage a team of staff. Could be why she's having to work on her own ( I was never a manager). I don't think the employee was necessarily in the right, either. Some jobs state you may have to fill in for co-workers. It should be mutual, though.
You lost me at, "are less likely to comply with the health guidelines of the pandemic". Your article about this situation hit most points. But why the hell did you feel the need to bring in the damn pandemic? There are countless other comparisons you could have used. Do better.
Dear Lord, please tell where this is! I’d boycott that whole franchise.
Sometimes, I wish they'd show the company name so I can know who not to pay anything towards until they get their s**t together. This type of thing pisses me off. I like to say we can all be killed by a bullet, yet this jackass makes it sound like they're a god. It's not slander. And they better think twice before trying to sue.
Let me guess, that "manager" is only one level above OP and yet they still have the gall to call those under them "the low-level" work. It's like, dude, you approve time sheets, field email from uppers, and MAYBE manage a teeeeeny tiny budget. Eat s**t. I hate managers who think they're something special. I work in a field where, in nearly every case I've had, my managers and above CAN'T do the "low-level" work because they literally don't know how. Managers don't get paid well because they're skillful. They're paid to be responsible. That means if you have to go in, you have to go in.
Did this entitled Emily Zitek actually throw out a "these people are less likely to comply with the health guidelines of the pandemic.? Ya, that's where I realized who your base is." " Zitek argues in one of her papers “that just giving in also isn’t a good solution because it could lead to more entitlement later.” (this is the important part of what was said)
My day off work text is in Vegas won't be home till tomorrow. I live in Florida I would always get a text on Friday evening to please come into work Saturday. My motto was if you ask before I leave. No problem. But if I'm gone I'm gone.
His first and only response should have been, sorry, I am not available today. If he is contacted again and asked why, say it's personal and don't try to justify it. The second you say what you are doing they can make a judgement as to which is more important-and guess which they will pick. Stay professional and it looks bad if the boss becomes unprofessional.
If your entire line of business can be shut down by one person calling out, maybe the issue isn't an off work employee not coming in, but you understaffing the shift in the first place.
However, being understaffed is a HUGE problem everywhere right now
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Whomever this young man is number one do not blend your social media with your employment. These people are your employer not your friends. Number two when you have time off never answer phone calls from your employers. Do your job collect your check and go home, do not have other life involvement with management from work.
Am I the only one confused by the only fans thing? But eff this manager, that was crazy. Get off your ass and go help your staff.
Never ever give your boss access to your social media and never ever answer the phone on your day off. Do they answer the phone on their day off? This boss is a twat. You deserve better.
"'____' put me on to cover your job all night and I absolutely hate doing it." Presumably, the "manager" was told by someone with higher authority to do the author's job since that person knew it was his day off. If I were the author, I would have been tempted to have called her bluff and told her, "You want to go in tomorrow and talk to the uppity-up? Okay, let's do that. What time? I'll meet you there and I'll tell them just how inappropriate it was for you to hunt me down like a fugitive on my day off on my social media, which is just short of cyber-stalking, by the way. Then harangue me like some fishwife for refusing to come in to do the job that you were told to do, but really hate and "just don't want to." I'm wondering how the big bosses will look at doing you any favors after they hear about how unprofessional you spoke to an employee." Then, if she actually met you and saw the boss together, tell him what happened,then drop the bomb that you quit.
Welcome to America. Common "job creator" mentality. "We are a team" and by "team" I mean you are a team of sled dogs and I have a whip.
I recall a company that ran a chain of convenience stores. The district manager was unscrupulous, and employee treatment suffered. One employee would get his schedule switched when a new employee complained about an assignment. When someone called in sick on a holiday, he got called. One time, a manager called and said she would have gone in, but she had been drinking. She slipped the employee extra cash out of pocket, since the company did not give overtime for unscheduled work. But one night got sick on the job, and his manager came in, herself, instead of calling another employee. Most of the managers there made up for high management's callousness I had a manager at one job, in a company print shop, where I began as a temp. The manager soon delegated a critical task to me, because I had skills. On one occasion, with a deadline looming, they needed more hands. I left my office to help, but the manager said, "You're handling something big. I can do this grunt work." That's a leader
I still remember my boss forcing me to work instead of attending my aunt's funeral so she could go on vacation. I was told my aunt was not considered my immediate family. Unfortunately then I needed my job to live so there was nothing I could do. Her name was Teresa and she was the manager at the DQ in Rockport, Tx. They eventually pushed her out but I was long gone by then. Same job I ended up injury my Achilles tendon and needed physical therapy. The assistant manager, Linda, yelled at me for ruining their "no accidents" streak and cost them a pizza party. I was absolutely dumb struck by her statement. She also use to call and scream at us, acting as the district manager if she was in the drive thru and had to wait for her food. Total psychopath.
In Sweden, this would be illegal. An employer wouldn't dare talk to an employee this way. Off course, you could love your job so that way it's better if the employer said these things because you would get 1-2 years of pay if you got union involved.
That's disgusting. I thought some of the managers I'd dealt with were bad but this one beats all of them.
"I fire you and also, i am suing you because you quit" is the gold....
I also think it's of note that she was the one who used profanity first. That is so seriously unprofessional, especially for someone in charge. She has no place in management and wherever that place is, they will have a continual turn over of employees because of her. If her employers did see this, she needs to be fired immediately.
If it's "low level work" then it must not be all that important to the overall functioning of the organization. To expect an employee to give up their day off in order to cover somebody else's shift is not just unreasonable, it's the mark of a really poor manager, somebody who probably shouldn't be in management in the first place.
So stupid. This guy and all the commenters are so entitled. You should be lucky you have a job at all unlike many. You can't just ask for double pay out of nowhere. I've come in on days off when I have no plans for more hours which is more pay and to help everybody out. And whoever said "ignore it" is stupid. You always answer and at least tell them you have plans and they'll be understanding. I know from personal experience, but you don't ignore it. They need more people. The business is important and needs to stay running. You can't just blow stuff off because you want to. I disagree so much with all of this and it upsets me how lazy other employees are sometimes.
"Please delete this." This a*****e knows he has f****d up! Report him to his higher and let him pay the consequences!
Both people are wining babies. F**ing complainers don't need the boot, the need the 🪓.
Dude this b***h summer up the entire problem of our nationwide employment issues. This is a perfect example of why workers need to unionize. It's not a coincidence that when our country had the lowest rate of income inequality, a robust middle class, wre number 1 in the world for everything, it's also the same time we had record numbers of unionized workers. Somehow, like always Americans (me too), were brainwashed to believe s**t like trickle down economics, and that unions were bad, had right to work laws, our economy and quality of living for 80 percent of us, took a nose dive. I salute you for standing up for yourself and refusing to be exploited and used. The fact she fired you in a text, for breaking zero work policy's or laws, shows you made the right choice. That's the only way this s**t stops. Sadly, too many people simply believe untrue s**t. For example; don't unionize well treat you guys better than ever before....
She, the manager, sounds like she's never done any real work. I worked my way up to Assistant manager, doing the cleaning, sorting, front counter, filling in for others. I still do all of that. If I need another person to fill in I ask if they are available, if not I'll try someone else. And as long as it's safe for those of us to work on a lower staff rate, then I'll pitch in more, even if it means my work has to wait. Shite happens and sometimes you need to knuckle down and get the job done. I wouldn't want to work with someone like that. It is not the way to behave nor how to treat your employees.
Company policy-sick for 3 days, had to bring a doctor’s note. Department policy that I worked in-bring a doctors note for anytime that you were sick. Our day started at 6 AM, I hadn’t been feeling well and had become downright nauseated by 8 AM. I spoke to my supervisor to inform her that I needed to go home. She gave her approval, then said in a crappy tone that I “better bring her something”. Meaning a doctors note. I sat in my car in the parking garage, about to call the doctors office. I felt like so much roadkill. All I wanted was to go home and lay down. And I didn’t want to drive 20 minutes to the doctors office for him to tell me to do exactly that. The next morning, I handed her a copy of my receipt from Kroger, where I purchased a bottle of Pepto-Bismol. I guess I had a look on my face when she looked at me. She never said anything more. That department policy was abolished a year or so later. I doubt the insurance company was ok with the numerous dr visits.
The sad part is she claimed it was his shift she was covering in part of that... it's like 1 my day off, 2 freedom of speech... 3 I would have let them sue and counter sued for unlawful termination.. talk about having A psycho for a manager..
Were it the US, the magic words are "hostile workplace."
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My spouse and I adopted a baby. On the day she was born, I got a surprise call saying "we have a baby for you and she's being born right now!" We knew nothing about her until the day she was born and we were so excited! My boss knew we were trying to adopt for a year before my daughter was born. I took a 6 week maternity leave and my boss pressured me from day 1 to come back. She said she didn't understand why I needed so much time since I didn't physically give birth. I refused. Turns out, during the time I was off she had no clients and blamed the birth of my child for lack of income. She told other employees that she couldn't pay them and they could thank my daughter for that. When I did return, she forced me to get a letter from the birth mom's attorney verifying that we knew nothing about our baby before she was born. My boss thought I was lying and just decided to keep it from her. Needless to say, I didn't stay at that job long after that.
The low level employees are the first to get laid-off or let go when things like the pandemic and crappy business practices hit a business. They know that they're expendable in most cases and are more times than not treated as such and it's usually by the person one rung up the ladder from you. Douche bag shift leaders and Karen customers are why no one wants these low level jobs.
So, you're making excuses for a**hole employers who Demand you work on your day off? 🤔 fool.
Never, EVER give out your social media to employers. They use it to spy on and censor employees these days. Besides that, you ate not obligated to give them that information nor are they entitled to it. And they should never be entitled to it. Slander is when you spread vicious falsehoods about another person. In this case, it's libel and OP was smart for both keeping and posting the evidence online. Lucky for him his second job extended his hours so he was able to walk out of the crappy job with no problem. But I'd still sue that store and that manager for how terribly they acted.
Would love to see them try that in Ontario.... https://www.blogto.com/tech/2021/12/right-to-disconnect-ontario/#:~:text=Ontario%20just%20passed%20a%20law,was%20first%20proposed%20in%20October.
I love that technology makes it possible to expose this kind of behavior. Hello it's 2022 here's a serving of accountability!
The manager is not manager material this may be the reason why the other person cause off it also seeks to amaze me why people use social media and or their cell phones to reach people that can be copied or re posted to prove was said and done. Everyone should remember also cell phones are not your friend and it's a dangerous equipment
I had a douche manager while attending college in Michigan who decided to schedule me on days and times that I was not available. This, after having the entire crew fill out an availability chart! I showed up for work one day and got chewed out for being over an hour late (I was in class at that time, and I also took the bus to get anywhere). I told him , "No. I gave you the times I was available to work. That's it." He sputtered and fumed as I took the schedule and crossed out the extra times he wanted me to show. Go ahead and fire me, dude. I have two other jobs that I work alongside this gig, plus a full~time school load. I was too damn tired to take his BS. I quit a month later due to his illegal business practices.
She’s not only an ahole she’s a dumb a hole ..the worst kind . Slander is only if the information is false …& false written information is actually liable not slander. Slander is verbal . So she’s a schmuck all around !
He could've just ignored his boss's messages. That's what i do when work contacts me during my time off, weekend or holiday.
After i did that, they stopped contacting me and started respecting my time
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I don’t even work and I found this infuriating. Some people really need to get their act together. I hate people that are like this. But it was sorta funny how the manager acted cause they seem like they don’t know how much trouble they can get into. I mean I wouldn’t know but the comments are telling me that they can. Can someone confirm?
No is a complete sentence. About damn time many, MANY managers learned this simple, simple fact.
The part that got me was when the manager complained that she was put on to cover the shift. "You know I hate doing that." Yeah, I did too, but as manager that was my job. It meant I either worked 3 weeks straight or open to close, but it was my part if my job to step up if I couldn't find coverage for a shift. People are entitled to their day off, especially if that person works another job. An offer of another day off wasn't mentioned. Nor was overtime or double time which they would have been legally required to do if the person had already worked the max amount of hours they can per week. You want to be manager, you make the sacrifices it requires, including more hours, more work, including the lower stuff.
I would totally sue if I was him. What a psychopath. Apparently nobody ever had the honey and vinegar talk with them
This is clearly fake. A thorough reading show they lost timeframe and context. This site is a clickbait site not even confirmed information. I mean it's this person sent me this on the internet I don't know who it is , maybe, but anyone with a Friend or a 2nd cellphone could do this. I would bet the site faked the whole thing for clicks. It's depressing people are so stupid they believe this crap are allowed to vote.
I, too, never believe protracted employment issues last more than one day. It's almost as depressing as single votes thinking they're anonymous.
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These chat logs are so fake its crazy, can I have a job, this stuff looks too easy
There's a difference between having a medical reason (like asthma or copd) to not be able to wear a mask and "it makes it hard to breathe so I don't like it". The fact that you put science in quotations just shows exactly where you stand politically. Go crawl back to your Fox News hole and drown in conspiracies.
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Yes. Because no employer in history has ever treated their employee terribly and has tried to force them to come in on their day off. Get a grip.
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Not if it's a "right-to-work" or "at-will employment" state in the US. You can be fired for no reason* or warning and you can quit for no reason or no warning. ________ ________ *As long as they don't go against any discrimination laws.
Load More Replies... Low-level work? Wow, that manager has an inflated sense of their own importance. Also, you can't slander someone when you are simply displaying the words they have said. Slander is making false claims about someone verbally. Libel is the same but in writing. This person screwed themselves all by themselves.
This comment by the boss is harassment. I'd sue.
Load More Replies... Once encountered a manager in Sales who we in IT asked to do a couple of things for her account to work on her computer, which we had to ask the entire staff of the company to do, including the president. No one else had any issue at all with doing this, but this manager had somehow gotten it into her head that managers do not do any sort of work and was extremely angry we had asked her to type in a couple of things when that is "not part of the management role" whatever she thought that was. But it was stuff we had no business typing in for her. We just let her stew in her own stupid and entitled nuttiness until she realized she would no longer be able to work until she did what we asked and caved in.
Things like this even happen to salaried managers. I work in IT, responsible for system that operates 24/7. Even though I had a very qualified, responsible group that rotated on call responsibilities. My VP would expect me to come in if there was a production problem off hours. One Saturday night during my mother's 70th birthday party, they called me asking if I was coming in to support the group. I had taken that Friday off because my mother lives 350 miles from me and flew in for it. I wasn't in the office that Friday, which they were aware of. After trying to guilt me for several minutes, I asked if they were going to buy me an airline ticket to fly back early, they shut up quick. I reminded them, I wasn't in the office Friday, had already spoke to the person on call about the strategy to take, with agreement they could call me at anytime if there was an issue related to the solution. VP shut up pretty quick. The group said it was the best thing I did, none of them liked the VP.
About the boss checking to see if Batman was actually playing, I once had a boss call my doctor to see if I actually had an appointment on a day I called in sick. This was before the privacy laws unfortunately. But she sure showed me her true colors!
I had a manager threaten to fire me for missing my shift, when I had actually collapsed AT work and had to be rushed by ambulance to the hospital (middle of summer when temps are regularly 105-120 range) from heat exhaustion, and obviously couldn't go back to work that day, called work and my coworkers already had it worked out to cover my shift and appointments and said not to worry, then called the manager to let her know the situation. She didn't remain manager for long, and before that incident I was always going out if my way to help in the store when needed cause I didn't want anyone to be struggling or upset in there, so that was a definite slap to the face, but helped me become more firmer when it comes to myself.
Load More Replies... I manage and I prefer to do the sweeping, trash, and dirty work so that the people I work with don't have to so that it is a more pleasant place to work.
I manage and like the breaks of doing tasks I don't normally do.
Load More Replies... Sue for slander? What was slanderous? He copy and pasted the conversation, didn't make anything up, This manager is an idiot; all that extra work would have been better utilized doing the 'low-level' work. She should be fired ASAP.
She's a ridiculous vile POS, it's no surprise that he doesn't want to help her out. With a attitude like hers, I wouldn't pîss on her if she was on fire.
Load More Replies... Im so lucky my boss is the best. Even though she got promoted to VP, her replacement straight up quit last Friday and a team member was let go for moving to another country but not telling anyone and she took on all of their work herself. Whenever anything major happens, she doesn't dump it on us. She will then ask if I and the other senior person could help, which of course we always do because she's the best. But otherwise she gets down in the trenches with us even though she's way above us.
Bosses love to think you love the company to kill yourself for the opportunity to work at any chance. But they don't do it themselves. The rate should be time and a half for any work call in on a persons day off. Managers are the bane of the workforce. Yes they have lots to deal with but if someone says they can't make it in because it's their day off then leave them alone and go manage some how.
It would be one thing if they were actually understaffed and asked nicely, but it's literally the managers job to cover for employees when they call out. Also why would they try all their social media before their phone?
This manager is the type of person whom, assuming she has friends, uses favors against them. "I did that thing for you, so I'm calling you on it because I need this thing done for me." She deserves to be out in the cold on a regular basis until she takes a long look in the mirror and realizes "Damn, I'm a bítch." Even if this does happen here in the US, she could STILL be sued for actual abuse especially after dropping the C word. Evidence doesn't lie and emotional duress is still a thing here.
I would like to know how this "boss" got this position to begin with. Obviously, she is not able to do the job, is quite ignorant, and costing the business money.
Did everyone miss the part where she outright called him a c*nt!?! B***h should get fired over that!
At my last job, I was an hourly employee. If anyone from the office, boss or not, called me outside of my scheduled hours, I got paid for however long they kept me on the phone. Got a new boss 3 years in, and he called me when I was on vacation - 1,200 miles away at the beach. He kept me on the phone for almost 30 minutes, even tho I told him I couldn't help. When I got back to work, I casually mentioned to a co-worker that he had called me. She worked in HR & reported it. I got paid for the half hour, & my boss never called me outside of office hours again!
Had a boss like this who always expected me to come in last-minute. Like "I need you here in 5" last-minute. In the same way, cancelled/changed my shifts when things were slow. This happened sometimes several times a week. I was expected to always be on call, for no additional pay. Paid barely above minimum wage, too. Worked for them for 2 years, and I got a 20¢ raise. Hooray 😐 Finally I got furloughed b/c of covid restrictions. Then when I went to file unemployment, he asked me not to b/c the company'd have to pay a portion. Like ???? I need money to live, though?? Found a new job paying 50% more an hour within a couple weeks. Never going back to a situation like that again.
Did this entitled Emily Zitek actually throw out a "these people are less likely to comply with the health guidelines of the pandemic.? Ya, that's where I realized who your base is." " Zitek argues in one of her papers “that just giving in also isn’t a good solution because it could lead to more entitlement later.” <- -((this is the important part of what was said))
I totally support the now ex employee. I would have never acknowledged the supervisors message in the first place.
Load More Replies... When I was a manager working with people with Alzheimer's, I would go in to help shower people in my work dress if needed. I did everything needed including direct 24 hour care of covid positive residents. Managers like this are wretched. No excuse.
Suggestion~~keep a full set of clothes in your car. I did that while managing a Little Caesar's. I'd get stuck in town either because of work or weather. Best thing I ever did!
Load More Replies... His first mistake was responding. If it's my day off and I get a message like this, I ignore it. What are they going to do? If you're not available, don't respond. They have no leverage that way.
Although I know what it feels like having to work alone when everyone didn't show for their shifts at a donut franchise, there's really no reason to be immature and unprofessional about it. I take it the manager is young, perhaps too immature to know how to manage a team of staff. Could be why she's having to work on her own ( I was never a manager). I don't think the employee was necessarily in the right, either. Some jobs state you may have to fill in for co-workers. It should be mutual, though.
You lost me at, "are less likely to comply with the health guidelines of the pandemic". Your article about this situation hit most points. But why the hell did you feel the need to bring in the damn pandemic? There are countless other comparisons you could have used. Do better.
Dear Lord, please tell where this is! I’d boycott that whole franchise.
Sometimes, I wish they'd show the company name so I can know who not to pay anything towards until they get their s**t together. This type of thing pisses me off. I like to say we can all be killed by a bullet, yet this jackass makes it sound like they're a god. It's not slander. And they better think twice before trying to sue.
Let me guess, that "manager" is only one level above OP and yet they still have the gall to call those under them "the low-level" work. It's like, dude, you approve time sheets, field email from uppers, and MAYBE manage a teeeeeny tiny budget. Eat s**t. I hate managers who think they're something special. I work in a field where, in nearly every case I've had, my managers and above CAN'T do the "low-level" work because they literally don't know how. Managers don't get paid well because they're skillful. They're paid to be responsible. That means if you have to go in, you have to go in.
Did this entitled Emily Zitek actually throw out a "these people are less likely to comply with the health guidelines of the pandemic.? Ya, that's where I realized who your base is." " Zitek argues in one of her papers “that just giving in also isn’t a good solution because it could lead to more entitlement later.” (this is the important part of what was said)
My day off work text is in Vegas won't be home till tomorrow. I live in Florida I would always get a text on Friday evening to please come into work Saturday. My motto was if you ask before I leave. No problem. But if I'm gone I'm gone.
His first and only response should have been, sorry, I am not available today. If he is contacted again and asked why, say it's personal and don't try to justify it. The second you say what you are doing they can make a judgement as to which is more important-and guess which they will pick. Stay professional and it looks bad if the boss becomes unprofessional.
If your entire line of business can be shut down by one person calling out, maybe the issue isn't an off work employee not coming in, but you understaffing the shift in the first place.
However, being understaffed is a HUGE problem everywhere right now
Load More Replies... Whomever this young man is number one do not blend your social media with your employment. These people are your employer not your friends. Number two when you have time off never answer phone calls from your employers. Do your job collect your check and go home, do not have other life involvement with management from work.
Am I the only one confused by the only fans thing? But eff this manager, that was crazy. Get off your ass and go help your staff.
Never ever give your boss access to your social media and never ever answer the phone on your day off. Do they answer the phone on their day off? This boss is a twat. You deserve better.
"'____' put me on to cover your job all night and I absolutely hate doing it." Presumably, the "manager" was told by someone with higher authority to do the author's job since that person knew it was his day off. If I were the author, I would have been tempted to have called her bluff and told her, "You want to go in tomorrow and talk to the uppity-up? Okay, let's do that. What time? I'll meet you there and I'll tell them just how inappropriate it was for you to hunt me down like a fugitive on my day off on my social media, which is just short of cyber-stalking, by the way. Then harangue me like some fishwife for refusing to come in to do the job that you were told to do, but really hate and "just don't want to." I'm wondering how the big bosses will look at doing you any favors after they hear about how unprofessional you spoke to an employee." Then, if she actually met you and saw the boss together, tell him what happened,then drop the bomb that you quit.
Welcome to America. Common "job creator" mentality. "We are a team" and by "team" I mean you are a team of sled dogs and I have a whip.
I recall a company that ran a chain of convenience stores. The district manager was unscrupulous, and employee treatment suffered. One employee would get his schedule switched when a new employee complained about an assignment. When someone called in sick on a holiday, he got called. One time, a manager called and said she would have gone in, but she had been drinking. She slipped the employee extra cash out of pocket, since the company did not give overtime for unscheduled work. But one night got sick on the job, and his manager came in, herself, instead of calling another employee. Most of the managers there made up for high management's callousness I had a manager at one job, in a company print shop, where I began as a temp. The manager soon delegated a critical task to me, because I had skills. On one occasion, with a deadline looming, they needed more hands. I left my office to help, but the manager said, "You're handling something big. I can do this grunt work." That's a leader
I still remember my boss forcing me to work instead of attending my aunt's funeral so she could go on vacation. I was told my aunt was not considered my immediate family. Unfortunately then I needed my job to live so there was nothing I could do. Her name was Teresa and she was the manager at the DQ in Rockport, Tx. They eventually pushed her out but I was long gone by then. Same job I ended up injury my Achilles tendon and needed physical therapy. The assistant manager, Linda, yelled at me for ruining their "no accidents" streak and cost them a pizza party. I was absolutely dumb struck by her statement. She also use to call and scream at us, acting as the district manager if she was in the drive thru and had to wait for her food. Total psychopath.
In Sweden, this would be illegal. An employer wouldn't dare talk to an employee this way. Off course, you could love your job so that way it's better if the employer said these things because you would get 1-2 years of pay if you got union involved.
That's disgusting. I thought some of the managers I'd dealt with were bad but this one beats all of them.
"I fire you and also, i am suing you because you quit" is the gold....
I also think it's of note that she was the one who used profanity first. That is so seriously unprofessional, especially for someone in charge. She has no place in management and wherever that place is, they will have a continual turn over of employees because of her. If her employers did see this, she needs to be fired immediately.
If it's "low level work" then it must not be all that important to the overall functioning of the organization. To expect an employee to give up their day off in order to cover somebody else's shift is not just unreasonable, it's the mark of a really poor manager, somebody who probably shouldn't be in management in the first place.
So stupid. This guy and all the commenters are so entitled. You should be lucky you have a job at all unlike many. You can't just ask for double pay out of nowhere. I've come in on days off when I have no plans for more hours which is more pay and to help everybody out. And whoever said "ignore it" is stupid. You always answer and at least tell them you have plans and they'll be understanding. I know from personal experience, but you don't ignore it. They need more people. The business is important and needs to stay running. You can't just blow stuff off because you want to. I disagree so much with all of this and it upsets me how lazy other employees are sometimes.
"Please delete this." This a*****e knows he has f****d up! Report him to his higher and let him pay the consequences!
Both people are wining babies. F**ing complainers don't need the boot, the need the 🪓.
Dude this b***h summer up the entire problem of our nationwide employment issues. This is a perfect example of why workers need to unionize. It's not a coincidence that when our country had the lowest rate of income inequality, a robust middle class, wre number 1 in the world for everything, it's also the same time we had record numbers of unionized workers. Somehow, like always Americans (me too), were brainwashed to believe s**t like trickle down economics, and that unions were bad, had right to work laws, our economy and quality of living for 80 percent of us, took a nose dive. I salute you for standing up for yourself and refusing to be exploited and used. The fact she fired you in a text, for breaking zero work policy's or laws, shows you made the right choice. That's the only way this s**t stops. Sadly, too many people simply believe untrue s**t. For example; don't unionize well treat you guys better than ever before....
She, the manager, sounds like she's never done any real work. I worked my way up to Assistant manager, doing the cleaning, sorting, front counter, filling in for others. I still do all of that. If I need another person to fill in I ask if they are available, if not I'll try someone else. And as long as it's safe for those of us to work on a lower staff rate, then I'll pitch in more, even if it means my work has to wait. Shite happens and sometimes you need to knuckle down and get the job done. I wouldn't want to work with someone like that. It is not the way to behave nor how to treat your employees.
Company policy-sick for 3 days, had to bring a doctor’s note. Department policy that I worked in-bring a doctors note for anytime that you were sick. Our day started at 6 AM, I hadn’t been feeling well and had become downright nauseated by 8 AM. I spoke to my supervisor to inform her that I needed to go home. She gave her approval, then said in a crappy tone that I “better bring her something”. Meaning a doctors note. I sat in my car in the parking garage, about to call the doctors office. I felt like so much roadkill. All I wanted was to go home and lay down. And I didn’t want to drive 20 minutes to the doctors office for him to tell me to do exactly that. The next morning, I handed her a copy of my receipt from Kroger, where I purchased a bottle of Pepto-Bismol. I guess I had a look on my face when she looked at me. She never said anything more. That department policy was abolished a year or so later. I doubt the insurance company was ok with the numerous dr visits.
The sad part is she claimed it was his shift she was covering in part of that... it's like 1 my day off, 2 freedom of speech... 3 I would have let them sue and counter sued for unlawful termination.. talk about having A psycho for a manager..
Were it the US, the magic words are "hostile workplace."
Load More Replies... How dare you say you're somewhere you're not on your day off! Good grief, that person is deranged.
My spouse and I adopted a baby. On the day she was born, I got a surprise call saying "we have a baby for you and she's being born right now!" We knew nothing about her until the day she was born and we were so excited! My boss knew we were trying to adopt for a year before my daughter was born. I took a 6 week maternity leave and my boss pressured me from day 1 to come back. She said she didn't understand why I needed so much time since I didn't physically give birth. I refused. Turns out, during the time I was off she had no clients and blamed the birth of my child for lack of income. She told other employees that she couldn't pay them and they could thank my daughter for that. When I did return, she forced me to get a letter from the birth mom's attorney verifying that we knew nothing about our baby before she was born. My boss thought I was lying and just decided to keep it from her. Needless to say, I didn't stay at that job long after that.
The low level employees are the first to get laid-off or let go when things like the pandemic and crappy business practices hit a business. They know that they're expendable in most cases and are more times than not treated as such and it's usually by the person one rung up the ladder from you. Douche bag shift leaders and Karen customers are why no one wants these low level jobs.
So, you're making excuses for a**hole employers who Demand you work on your day off? 🤔 fool.
Never, EVER give out your social media to employers. They use it to spy on and censor employees these days. Besides that, you ate not obligated to give them that information nor are they entitled to it. And they should never be entitled to it. Slander is when you spread vicious falsehoods about another person. In this case, it's libel and OP was smart for both keeping and posting the evidence online. Lucky for him his second job extended his hours so he was able to walk out of the crappy job with no problem. But I'd still sue that store and that manager for how terribly they acted.
Would love to see them try that in Ontario.... https://www.blogto.com/tech/2021/12/right-to-disconnect-ontario/#:~:text=Ontario%20just%20passed%20a%20law,was%20first%20proposed%20in%20October.
I love that technology makes it possible to expose this kind of behavior. Hello it's 2022 here's a serving of accountability!
The manager is not manager material this may be the reason why the other person cause off it also seeks to amaze me why people use social media and or their cell phones to reach people that can be copied or re posted to prove was said and done. Everyone should remember also cell phones are not your friend and it's a dangerous equipment
I had a douche manager while attending college in Michigan who decided to schedule me on days and times that I was not available. This, after having the entire crew fill out an availability chart! I showed up for work one day and got chewed out for being over an hour late (I was in class at that time, and I also took the bus to get anywhere). I told him , "No. I gave you the times I was available to work. That's it." He sputtered and fumed as I took the schedule and crossed out the extra times he wanted me to show. Go ahead and fire me, dude. I have two other jobs that I work alongside this gig, plus a full~time school load. I was too damn tired to take his BS. I quit a month later due to his illegal business practices.
She’s not only an ahole she’s a dumb a hole ..the worst kind . Slander is only if the information is false …& false written information is actually liable not slander. Slander is verbal . So she’s a schmuck all around !
He could've just ignored his boss's messages. That's what i do when work contacts me during my time off, weekend or holiday.
After i did that, they stopped contacting me and started respecting my time
Load More Replies... I don’t even work and I found this infuriating. Some people really need to get their act together. I hate people that are like this. But it was sorta funny how the manager acted cause they seem like they don’t know how much trouble they can get into. I mean I wouldn’t know but the comments are telling me that they can. Can someone confirm?
No is a complete sentence. About damn time many, MANY managers learned this simple, simple fact.
The part that got me was when the manager complained that she was put on to cover the shift. "You know I hate doing that." Yeah, I did too, but as manager that was my job. It meant I either worked 3 weeks straight or open to close, but it was my part if my job to step up if I couldn't find coverage for a shift. People are entitled to their day off, especially if that person works another job. An offer of another day off wasn't mentioned. Nor was overtime or double time which they would have been legally required to do if the person had already worked the max amount of hours they can per week. You want to be manager, you make the sacrifices it requires, including more hours, more work, including the lower stuff.
I would totally sue if I was him. What a psychopath. Apparently nobody ever had the honey and vinegar talk with them
This is clearly fake. A thorough reading show they lost timeframe and context. This site is a clickbait site not even confirmed information. I mean it's this person sent me this on the internet I don't know who it is , maybe, but anyone with a Friend or a 2nd cellphone could do this. I would bet the site faked the whole thing for clicks. It's depressing people are so stupid they believe this crap are allowed to vote.
I, too, never believe protracted employment issues last more than one day. It's almost as depressing as single votes thinking they're anonymous.
Load More Replies... These chat logs are so fake its crazy, can I have a job, this stuff looks too easy
There's a difference between having a medical reason (like asthma or copd) to not be able to wear a mask and "it makes it hard to breathe so I don't like it". The fact that you put science in quotations just shows exactly where you stand politically. Go crawl back to your Fox News hole and drown in conspiracies.
Load More Replies... Yes. Because no employer in history has ever treated their employee terribly and has tried to force them to come in on their day off. Get a grip.
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