Late US Senator’s Daughter’s Theory About Abortions Gets Debunked By An Actual Doctor
TV’s The View panelist Meghan McCain is accustomed to being the black sheep of her less conservative co-workers – but this week she got called out offstage. The host tweeted out a conspiracy theory about ‘late-term’ abortions, the source of which is unclear – and an OB/GYN was happy to correct her.
Dr. Daniel Grossman is an OB/GYN and abortion provider, so unsurprisingly he is very well versed on the topic and graciously went about fact-checking McCain in a series of tweets. The doctor not only debunked her fake statistics and provided accurate ones, but even explained the reasons why patients have the procedure after 20 weeks. Scroll down below to read McCain’s tweet and this OB/GYN’s in-depth response!
TV panelist Meghan McCain never shies away from sharing her conservative views on The View. But this week she got called out on Twitter for a conspiracy theory tweet on abortions
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An OB/GYN responded by debunking her ‘facts’ and sharing some real ones
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abortions. it should be the pregnant woman choice. it's her f!cking body. she'll be the one to live the the decision. not the crazy pro-lifer who goes bombing clinic
Apologies to all. I understand the importance of this issue to everyone. But, I come to Bored Panda for relief from the struggle, whether for or against. I may be in the minority, but I need this vacation from all the heavy, important issues that are being argued and fought over in the world at large, including this one. Please, can we bring BP back to being an oasis from the woes we can see everywhere else on the web?
Just skip this post then. There is plenty of light-hearted posts on BP.
Load More Replies...I always love it when a pro-birther tries to make up b******t. I'd love to hear where Meghan found her "facts."
I am 100% pro-choice. It is tragic that someone who wishes abortion is forced to go through months of beaurocracy and jump through hoops to get it - until it becomes even more of an issue because it is later in the pregnancy. It should be available within a couple of weeks at most.
If someone considering abortion in second or third trimester, there must be valid reason. Why people can't even understand that. ?. I was shocked that people are against women's rights in USA. It seems all over world women has to suffer.
When a woman becomes pregnant, regardless of circumstance, her life automatically becomes less valuable than that of the potential life she carries. She becomes a vessel for an act that took the male less than a minute, and will constrain her life for at least 21 years. This is deeply unfair.
Load More Replies...'Pro-life': let's not just kill the foetus, let's kill the mother along with it through medical complications through birth! Yay!
I fully support abortion at any point for medical reasons. However this doctor acknowledges that some of his patients have healthy pregnancies but weren’t able to get an abortion until very late in the pregnancy. Likely these were not super late term, closer to 20 weeks than 24. If they were after 22 weeks though that shouldn’t be legal.
Thats a big issue right now. They are making it harder in some states so that it is far too difficult to get them in the earliest stages.
Load More Replies...People are acting like the women who choose to abort are these monsters. They are human beings with a soul. Like they don't feel bad enough about losing their baby to begin with. People are so cruel. This issue is NOT black and white like they try to paint abortion. Like damn, it's 2019. We need solutions, not to chastise people.
Many pro-lifers like me volunteer at charities that provide free birthing, parenting, & budgeting classes as well as free supplies for two years of life. We donate voluntarily to charitable organizations that support struggling families and help out neighbors and, yes, even adopt previously unwanted but now cherished children. The government isn't the only way to help people and killing a person you don't want to exist isn't the only way to deal with an unwanted pregnancy. PEACE BEGINS IN THE WOMB.
Those are healthy babies though. You can’t adopt a child that dies hours after birth.
Load More Replies...I am pro-life. That includes the life of the woman whose life is risked if she is forced to carry a dead thing in her body for weeks until some talking head decides it's "time", versus, say, what a medical expert would recommend. Facts and legal safe access save lives. BS rhetoric kills. For example, a child lost at 6 months stil wasn't enough for the "law" to allow "THAT" procedure --- and since it was an incomplete placental expulsion, the tissue became gangrenous, the woman in question nearly died, and she could NEVER have kids at all. Soooo..... Pro-life should include the woman's life! *puts away soapbox*
Meghan McCain, shown tenderly cuddling her pet cactus. How appropriate.
What a nasty little witch. The scary and life threatening things that can happen during a pregnancy need to be handled with care. its a family wanting a baby and to find out something is seriously wrong and having to abort is such an emotional heart wrecking experience that she clearly does not care to learn more about. Compassion is so important in all aspects of life and something she needs to practice more
I agree that late abortion "on-demand" is not good. If someone knows they have been pregnant for 7/8 months they shouldnt just change their minds. But it is horrific to imagine the poor women who are told their much wanted baby will be stillborn or not survive due to birth defects and forced to carry it to term.
That's the point, they aren't changing their minds. Late term is exactly what you just said. The fetus is not compatible with life and/or the mother's life is in serious danger.
Load More Replies...Don't blame a child for the actions of adults. If you don't want a baby, don't have sex that can result in a child: tie your tubes, etc.
You could also wear a condom or have YOUR tubes tied stud. Think about that?
Load More Replies...She talked about late abortions ON DEMAND. The doctor refuted his own strawman.
You don't think that a woman who's being killed by her "baby" due to complications would not DEMAND an abortion? Some catholic nut doctors in Ireland let a woman die instead if saving her voice because they thought there was still a heartbeat in the dying thing that was poisoning her.
Load More Replies...I am just sick of a bunch of women and men who do not live the lives of others nor understand the lives of others. They are not aware that not all conception is made through consent. They are not offering financially support to any orphans, they are not helping with orphan health care or education, they are not adopting orphans, they are doing absolutely nothing to help orphans but believe they have the right to tell a women what to do with an extension of her body. How dare they. I do not know what I would do because I have not been there but as a woman i should have the CHOICE, especially in the case of rape or serious birth defects. Unless you personally offer to support that or any other orphan as a result of you and your ideals forcing a woman to give birth do not tell a woman not to have an abortion.
I am so happy I live in a country where women's health care is a right we have with everything it includes. I can't imagine living in a country where one day I have the right to abortion and the next that right is taken from me, because some religious nutjobs have too much political power.
I don't understand this community sometimes. You claim to be on the side of life by advocating for vaccinations and protective measures from climate change (as you should), but then everyone does a total 180° and says that late-term abortions are perfectly acceptable and not infanticide. Late-term abortion is very-obviously the murder of a developing human-being. How does half of America just look at this issue and say "Oh yeah that's fine."
Every terrible point you made was addressed in the post. As for gender, you're a male, telling a female what's best for her body. Everyone's entitled to their opinion, but it doesn't mean your opinion isn't dumb as f**k.
Load More Replies...Why do liberals only care about science when it fits the agenda of climate change. Every PERSON has a unique DNA at conception. That is science. Hurry up, find a good rebuttal instead of facing the facts. The only difference between the born and unborn is a degree of development. When does it become a person? Babies have to develop in the womb, but are still developing at 6 months, age 1, age 5 etc. I know the arguments. "But that baby might have a tough poor life". So we kill it before it can even have a chance at a life, makes perfect sense (*sarcasm). The truth hurts, but murder is murder even when you don't realize it.
By the by, your later comment about birth control not stopping people from having sex shows that you don't care about any unwanted refuses. You just want to control what other people do with their bodies. Perv.
Load More Replies...The whole argument on abortion is they are aborting "clumps of cells". My son was born happy & healthy at 32 weeks. Did not need any additional care. He was not a clump of cells. You delusional people are sick.
Nobody thinks a 32 week fetus is a clump of cells. Not all babies are healthy like your son was though.
Load More Replies...I fully support abortions, I just don't agree with the idea of using tax dollars to fund them. It's settled law I don't get how it can't be accepted as here to stay.
This is opening up a Pandora's box that we will have no way back from. Minorities are the ones that have the most abortions. Just think about that for a moment and try to figure out the left agenda. I am not against abortions but you should not wait until the last minute to change your mind.
Minorities have the most abortions because they are more likely to be poor. It has nothing to do with a leftist agenda.
Load More Replies...On many issues America leads the world, but for healthcare including abortions, and for gun control.. America has much to learn.
Nowhere allows lethal injection after birth. This is untrue and harmful to spread such disinformation.
Load More Replies...I have multiple problems with this. The main one is "People don't want to birth a child. Guess what hunny, you do, after they shred it inside you first." I speak with myself and many others when I say: I DO NOT WANT A CHILD!!! Whether that means I birth it or not. That will not change. Ever. Not every person in existence wants a kid. This is not bad, nor is it a phase. After all, I'm going to be struggling with goung to college and simply just getting a job soon. Why would I want to add more stress on my self to take care of a being I don't even want? Yes, there are manh out there who would enjoy adopting, but not enough. And where is the garuntee they'll be going into a good home? Besides, pregnancies are expensive and as I've heard some are mentally scarring. I will NOT personally put myself through mental and physical pain that will inn no way ever pay off. Thank you, I just needed/wanted to call that out.
Load More Replies...abortions. it should be the pregnant woman choice. it's her f!cking body. she'll be the one to live the the decision. not the crazy pro-lifer who goes bombing clinic
Apologies to all. I understand the importance of this issue to everyone. But, I come to Bored Panda for relief from the struggle, whether for or against. I may be in the minority, but I need this vacation from all the heavy, important issues that are being argued and fought over in the world at large, including this one. Please, can we bring BP back to being an oasis from the woes we can see everywhere else on the web?
Just skip this post then. There is plenty of light-hearted posts on BP.
Load More Replies...I always love it when a pro-birther tries to make up b******t. I'd love to hear where Meghan found her "facts."
I am 100% pro-choice. It is tragic that someone who wishes abortion is forced to go through months of beaurocracy and jump through hoops to get it - until it becomes even more of an issue because it is later in the pregnancy. It should be available within a couple of weeks at most.
If someone considering abortion in second or third trimester, there must be valid reason. Why people can't even understand that. ?. I was shocked that people are against women's rights in USA. It seems all over world women has to suffer.
When a woman becomes pregnant, regardless of circumstance, her life automatically becomes less valuable than that of the potential life she carries. She becomes a vessel for an act that took the male less than a minute, and will constrain her life for at least 21 years. This is deeply unfair.
Load More Replies...'Pro-life': let's not just kill the foetus, let's kill the mother along with it through medical complications through birth! Yay!
I fully support abortion at any point for medical reasons. However this doctor acknowledges that some of his patients have healthy pregnancies but weren’t able to get an abortion until very late in the pregnancy. Likely these were not super late term, closer to 20 weeks than 24. If they were after 22 weeks though that shouldn’t be legal.
Thats a big issue right now. They are making it harder in some states so that it is far too difficult to get them in the earliest stages.
Load More Replies...People are acting like the women who choose to abort are these monsters. They are human beings with a soul. Like they don't feel bad enough about losing their baby to begin with. People are so cruel. This issue is NOT black and white like they try to paint abortion. Like damn, it's 2019. We need solutions, not to chastise people.
Many pro-lifers like me volunteer at charities that provide free birthing, parenting, & budgeting classes as well as free supplies for two years of life. We donate voluntarily to charitable organizations that support struggling families and help out neighbors and, yes, even adopt previously unwanted but now cherished children. The government isn't the only way to help people and killing a person you don't want to exist isn't the only way to deal with an unwanted pregnancy. PEACE BEGINS IN THE WOMB.
Those are healthy babies though. You can’t adopt a child that dies hours after birth.
Load More Replies...I am pro-life. That includes the life of the woman whose life is risked if she is forced to carry a dead thing in her body for weeks until some talking head decides it's "time", versus, say, what a medical expert would recommend. Facts and legal safe access save lives. BS rhetoric kills. For example, a child lost at 6 months stil wasn't enough for the "law" to allow "THAT" procedure --- and since it was an incomplete placental expulsion, the tissue became gangrenous, the woman in question nearly died, and she could NEVER have kids at all. Soooo..... Pro-life should include the woman's life! *puts away soapbox*
Meghan McCain, shown tenderly cuddling her pet cactus. How appropriate.
What a nasty little witch. The scary and life threatening things that can happen during a pregnancy need to be handled with care. its a family wanting a baby and to find out something is seriously wrong and having to abort is such an emotional heart wrecking experience that she clearly does not care to learn more about. Compassion is so important in all aspects of life and something she needs to practice more
I agree that late abortion "on-demand" is not good. If someone knows they have been pregnant for 7/8 months they shouldnt just change their minds. But it is horrific to imagine the poor women who are told their much wanted baby will be stillborn or not survive due to birth defects and forced to carry it to term.
That's the point, they aren't changing their minds. Late term is exactly what you just said. The fetus is not compatible with life and/or the mother's life is in serious danger.
Load More Replies...Don't blame a child for the actions of adults. If you don't want a baby, don't have sex that can result in a child: tie your tubes, etc.
You could also wear a condom or have YOUR tubes tied stud. Think about that?
Load More Replies...She talked about late abortions ON DEMAND. The doctor refuted his own strawman.
You don't think that a woman who's being killed by her "baby" due to complications would not DEMAND an abortion? Some catholic nut doctors in Ireland let a woman die instead if saving her voice because they thought there was still a heartbeat in the dying thing that was poisoning her.
Load More Replies...I am just sick of a bunch of women and men who do not live the lives of others nor understand the lives of others. They are not aware that not all conception is made through consent. They are not offering financially support to any orphans, they are not helping with orphan health care or education, they are not adopting orphans, they are doing absolutely nothing to help orphans but believe they have the right to tell a women what to do with an extension of her body. How dare they. I do not know what I would do because I have not been there but as a woman i should have the CHOICE, especially in the case of rape or serious birth defects. Unless you personally offer to support that or any other orphan as a result of you and your ideals forcing a woman to give birth do not tell a woman not to have an abortion.
I am so happy I live in a country where women's health care is a right we have with everything it includes. I can't imagine living in a country where one day I have the right to abortion and the next that right is taken from me, because some religious nutjobs have too much political power.
I don't understand this community sometimes. You claim to be on the side of life by advocating for vaccinations and protective measures from climate change (as you should), but then everyone does a total 180° and says that late-term abortions are perfectly acceptable and not infanticide. Late-term abortion is very-obviously the murder of a developing human-being. How does half of America just look at this issue and say "Oh yeah that's fine."
Every terrible point you made was addressed in the post. As for gender, you're a male, telling a female what's best for her body. Everyone's entitled to their opinion, but it doesn't mean your opinion isn't dumb as f**k.
Load More Replies...Why do liberals only care about science when it fits the agenda of climate change. Every PERSON has a unique DNA at conception. That is science. Hurry up, find a good rebuttal instead of facing the facts. The only difference between the born and unborn is a degree of development. When does it become a person? Babies have to develop in the womb, but are still developing at 6 months, age 1, age 5 etc. I know the arguments. "But that baby might have a tough poor life". So we kill it before it can even have a chance at a life, makes perfect sense (*sarcasm). The truth hurts, but murder is murder even when you don't realize it.
By the by, your later comment about birth control not stopping people from having sex shows that you don't care about any unwanted refuses. You just want to control what other people do with their bodies. Perv.
Load More Replies...The whole argument on abortion is they are aborting "clumps of cells". My son was born happy & healthy at 32 weeks. Did not need any additional care. He was not a clump of cells. You delusional people are sick.
Nobody thinks a 32 week fetus is a clump of cells. Not all babies are healthy like your son was though.
Load More Replies...I fully support abortions, I just don't agree with the idea of using tax dollars to fund them. It's settled law I don't get how it can't be accepted as here to stay.
This is opening up a Pandora's box that we will have no way back from. Minorities are the ones that have the most abortions. Just think about that for a moment and try to figure out the left agenda. I am not against abortions but you should not wait until the last minute to change your mind.
Minorities have the most abortions because they are more likely to be poor. It has nothing to do with a leftist agenda.
Load More Replies...On many issues America leads the world, but for healthcare including abortions, and for gun control.. America has much to learn.
Nowhere allows lethal injection after birth. This is untrue and harmful to spread such disinformation.
Load More Replies...I have multiple problems with this. The main one is "People don't want to birth a child. Guess what hunny, you do, after they shred it inside you first." I speak with myself and many others when I say: I DO NOT WANT A CHILD!!! Whether that means I birth it or not. That will not change. Ever. Not every person in existence wants a kid. This is not bad, nor is it a phase. After all, I'm going to be struggling with goung to college and simply just getting a job soon. Why would I want to add more stress on my self to take care of a being I don't even want? Yes, there are manh out there who would enjoy adopting, but not enough. And where is the garuntee they'll be going into a good home? Besides, pregnancies are expensive and as I've heard some are mentally scarring. I will NOT personally put myself through mental and physical pain that will inn no way ever pay off. Thank you, I just needed/wanted to call that out.
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