Woman Gets A Rejection Email From A Landscaping Company That Assumed She’s Too Weak – Roasts Them In Her Response
Imagine polishing your job application only to get a disrespectful response saying you’re too weak for the position. Well, this is precisely what happened to a woman named Charlotte who applied for a job at an unnamed landscaping company.
Her brother who goes by the handle @dzzzny has shared the screenshots of the email his sister got from a company she applied for vs. the one she sent back on Twitter and they went viral immediately.
“Funnily enough, I probably have just as much experience bodybuilding as you do, which I am guessing is none,” the woman stated in her fire email referring to the rejection letter.
And while most people agree that ‘Muscle Mark’ from the company has clearly crossed the line of respect for the female applicant, skeptics are left scratching their heads over whether you really gotta be one hell of a bodybuilder to nail landscaping. So let’s dive deep into this whole situation and make sure to share your thoughts in the comments below!
Dan who goes by the handle @dzzzny has tweeted the screenshots of the rejection letter his sister received, and the response she emailed them back
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This is the letter Charlotte received after applying for a job at a landscaping company
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And that’s the fire response to ‘Muscle Mark’ who thought she’s too weak for the job
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Many people pointed out the blatant sexism which, sadly, is all too common in the job market
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While some critics were not that supportive of Charlotte
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She had her resume and listed her experience so why did he need to point out it was physically hard work. Her resume and experience literally said she knows what the job entails. Hes illiterate in a sense that he can't connect the dots sexist clueless not funny condescending and a jerk.
It is always the same if you are a woman. I used to have a very physically demanding job and later on in my cover letters and CV always specified that I was used to hard work and capable of it. I was still told in every interview if 'I thought that the job wouldn't be too hard for me', or if 'I would be comfortable working with men' or absurdities like that.
Load More Replies...I got about 10 years of construction experience from working with my dad. I tried for a bit to find a construction job but gave up when it became very clear that they were never going to hire a 5 foot female. I am actually really good at construction guys. I was mostly looking into AC which is where I have the most background and you aren't handling heavy equipment, you are running flimsy tubes through tight spaces in the ceilings. But I guess they wanted 6 foot, big men to run those through tiny spaces in the ceiling instead of a 5 foot, 100lbs female who was averaging completing two houses a day because I can literally just walk around the truss with no problem so I didn't have to use a ladder and go up and down to run the duct work through.
Mark's email may sound polite, but I have only one question. If the application was from a man, would Mark have said the same to him? Like "Hi Kevin, thanks for your application, before we continue, I just want you to know what hard work this is and unless you do bodybuilding, I doubt you'll be able to keep up with us." I highly doubt that.
The message from Mark became sexist as soon as he said "However, unless you're a bodybuilder...." Without even looking at her resume, he proceeds to mansplain to her about how hard the work is. She's worked in the field for several years...I think she has a clue about how difficult the work is. It would be the equivalent of a woman telling a man that, unless he's raised kids of his own as a stay home dad, he's clueless as to how to work in a daycare with young children.
I spent 22 years as a firefighter and was passed over again and again for a promotion. The newer guys were getting the promotions over me. But, when one of those guys was unavailable, THEN it was okay for me to fill in for them. I knew going into it that it was a man's world, but dang, I always pulled my weight, fit in with the culture and even had the guys who got the promotions tell me that I should have gotten it over them. That's saying something.
Dude was an ass and so was everyone defending him. Pretty much my take from the whole thing.
Would he have sent that reply to a male applicant? I very much doubt it. In which case it is straight-up sexism.
Pfft, my grandmother did her own yard work, which included mowing her property which is filled with hills well into her 70's.
Muscle Mark is definitely in the wrong. Why would she apply to a landscaping company if she couldn't work as a landscaper? So it's like he's joking that she doesn't even understand what she applied for. And in most cases, people send resumes along with their application, so unless he ignored that then he should've known she already had plenty of prior experience working in landscaping. Just as her critics say she could've sent in a different response, Mark could've as well. Instead he chose that wording and tbh her response fits it well.
Last company I worked for. Ad on Craigslist. Blast tech trainee. I applied. Was emailed back "we aren't looking for a secretary". I replied with everything listed in the job description that I could do or learn to do but nothing about being a secretary. I got an interview. I explained the different types of products used for different jobs and metals. Boss asked if I though I should try for jeopardy. Then shop tour. He asked me to pick up at 50Lb bag of media (think like a bag of sand/concrete). I did. I put it on my shoulder and asked where he wanted it. Had to wait about a month but was hired. I spent 5.5 years there. No other male or female was asked to lift that bag. I out-lasted 38 men hired to do the same job. I left first week of July because it was just bosses not bossing and new hires not being trained. This week I start at Home Depot. Contractor pro desk. Oh and I went from a scrap metal recycling yard to being a sand blaster. And now to HD.
Anything you can do I can do better🎶🎵🎶 including the burn you must be feeling from my response to your sexist email!
His email was sexist, but hers was immature and petulant. I expect he simply clicked "delete" and was glad to have dodged a bullet. She'd have been better off staying polite and putting him in his place by listing her experience. Instead she's come across as childish.
Load More Replies...I never did "body building". Hate gyms and exercise routines. I just work hard. I can stack 140 lb. bales of hay 4 high. Cut down trees with my trusty Husqvarna. Dig up stumps with my 6 ft. pry bar. And so much more. Body building just for the sake of it is highly narcissistic. And frankly, unattractive.
If you need to be a body builder, the boss is a walking catastrophe in terms of doing his job. Because a good boss make sure people work smart and not breaking their backs.
This reminds me of a time I went to lunch with some co workers. We went to a buffet. You would pay up front and then go into the buffet area. We lined up and each paid. When a Black co worker got to the head of the line, the cashier said, "we're out of fried chicken." She didn't say that to any of the others, the rest of us were all White. Doubters, now do you understand why it's sexist?
This reminds me of teachers in elementary school who would go "I need some strong men to help me carry this or that!" I hated it then and I hate it now. The guys criticising are the same ones that complain that women asking for equality in the work place only want it for couchy jobs.
I (f) was surprised to see a couple of women on our house moving crew but man could they shift the heavy stuff.
the company I used to work for did charity days, we planted trees, brought tons of woodchips in and spread them on the walking paths. by mid afternoon saw a lot of 20-30 year old males complaining and sitting around. Meanwhile my friend and I, 5'2 ish and in our 40s kept working digging and planting, mocking them as "big strong men" as every time we passed them. sissies
Physically hard work can be pretty much anything that you break a sweat from.. maybe ive missed the part where the majority of people are doing physicall work are bodybuilders. Hmm wait… i do that kind of labour, guess im a bodybuilder now💪🏻 (5,8 155 pounds😂)
As sexist as saying "you might need to be a body builder to do the work" to a woman applying is, I don't think it was necessarily a rejection letter. At no point did he say he wasn't going to hire her, he just said that he was skeptical because it was hard work but if she felt like she could do it then to give him a call. Was it still slightly sexist? Yeah, but was it an outright rejection to being hired? No. So the title shouldn't be "woman receives rejection letter and roasts them" it should be more like "woman gets sexist response for job applicstion and roasts them"
Oh yeah, downvote me for pointing out it wasn't a rejection letter... im not saying he wasn't sexist. Jesus
Load More Replies...I recently applied for a job and had a similar experience but they told me to hung around the other workers all day and see whether I can handle this job as it was hard I did as I was told and got the job. I am 192lbs 6'2 male. In my honest opinion I think she jumped the gun and was sensitive about being talked to by a man about physical strength.
It's simple really, they're both asshats who clearly clashed. Nowhere can I see where it says she gave her resume so he could easily not have known about the past experience, and he did end with "if you feel you are up to it...", but she applied for the job so he should have at least met her and there was no need to assume that she was weak. Charlotte, on the other hand, could have easily mentioned her previous experience in her initial contact, because let's face it, it's rather pertinent, but what gets me it's her calling him names and lowering herself to "I don't want to work for your company anyway because you do bad work" when clearly she knew the sort of work they did before applying.
Honestly, the guy did say to call him if she thought she was up for it. So many people apply for jobs they are unqualified for. I once had someone contact me who had no experience in writing or anything in the medical field ... yet he was sure he was fit to apply for a position as a writer in a medical mag.
I wasn't sure what I thought of this so I came back and re-read it after a few hours. The employer's response reinforcing the physical nature of the job is very polite and ends with encouraging the applicant to reach out if they are still interested. The applicant's response, however, is snarky and out of line. Even if you're right, if that's how you handle conflict and respond to people when you feel slighted then you're gonna have problems.
That's because it's just plain sexist. The assumption that a woman, applying for a landscaping job, wouldn't know what she was in for and wouldn't be able to physically do the job. That only a 'bodybuilder' woman would be up to doing the same work as a man. Says a lot about his views on women. Would he have said the same thing to a male applicant? Doubtful.
Load More Replies...Would he have said "however unless you are a body builder I feel you cannot handle the work load" to a man?
Load More Replies...What is there to learn for her? This guy is a pain in the ass, and she would be better off working somewhere else... looks like she did learn that. What is there for him to learn? Who cares? She isn't going to work for him, and it isn't her job in life to teach him how to be a better person.
Load More Replies...She had her resume and listed her experience so why did he need to point out it was physically hard work. Her resume and experience literally said she knows what the job entails. Hes illiterate in a sense that he can't connect the dots sexist clueless not funny condescending and a jerk.
It is always the same if you are a woman. I used to have a very physically demanding job and later on in my cover letters and CV always specified that I was used to hard work and capable of it. I was still told in every interview if 'I thought that the job wouldn't be too hard for me', or if 'I would be comfortable working with men' or absurdities like that.
Load More Replies...I got about 10 years of construction experience from working with my dad. I tried for a bit to find a construction job but gave up when it became very clear that they were never going to hire a 5 foot female. I am actually really good at construction guys. I was mostly looking into AC which is where I have the most background and you aren't handling heavy equipment, you are running flimsy tubes through tight spaces in the ceilings. But I guess they wanted 6 foot, big men to run those through tiny spaces in the ceiling instead of a 5 foot, 100lbs female who was averaging completing two houses a day because I can literally just walk around the truss with no problem so I didn't have to use a ladder and go up and down to run the duct work through.
Mark's email may sound polite, but I have only one question. If the application was from a man, would Mark have said the same to him? Like "Hi Kevin, thanks for your application, before we continue, I just want you to know what hard work this is and unless you do bodybuilding, I doubt you'll be able to keep up with us." I highly doubt that.
The message from Mark became sexist as soon as he said "However, unless you're a bodybuilder...." Without even looking at her resume, he proceeds to mansplain to her about how hard the work is. She's worked in the field for several years...I think she has a clue about how difficult the work is. It would be the equivalent of a woman telling a man that, unless he's raised kids of his own as a stay home dad, he's clueless as to how to work in a daycare with young children.
I spent 22 years as a firefighter and was passed over again and again for a promotion. The newer guys were getting the promotions over me. But, when one of those guys was unavailable, THEN it was okay for me to fill in for them. I knew going into it that it was a man's world, but dang, I always pulled my weight, fit in with the culture and even had the guys who got the promotions tell me that I should have gotten it over them. That's saying something.
Dude was an ass and so was everyone defending him. Pretty much my take from the whole thing.
Would he have sent that reply to a male applicant? I very much doubt it. In which case it is straight-up sexism.
Pfft, my grandmother did her own yard work, which included mowing her property which is filled with hills well into her 70's.
Muscle Mark is definitely in the wrong. Why would she apply to a landscaping company if she couldn't work as a landscaper? So it's like he's joking that she doesn't even understand what she applied for. And in most cases, people send resumes along with their application, so unless he ignored that then he should've known she already had plenty of prior experience working in landscaping. Just as her critics say she could've sent in a different response, Mark could've as well. Instead he chose that wording and tbh her response fits it well.
Last company I worked for. Ad on Craigslist. Blast tech trainee. I applied. Was emailed back "we aren't looking for a secretary". I replied with everything listed in the job description that I could do or learn to do but nothing about being a secretary. I got an interview. I explained the different types of products used for different jobs and metals. Boss asked if I though I should try for jeopardy. Then shop tour. He asked me to pick up at 50Lb bag of media (think like a bag of sand/concrete). I did. I put it on my shoulder and asked where he wanted it. Had to wait about a month but was hired. I spent 5.5 years there. No other male or female was asked to lift that bag. I out-lasted 38 men hired to do the same job. I left first week of July because it was just bosses not bossing and new hires not being trained. This week I start at Home Depot. Contractor pro desk. Oh and I went from a scrap metal recycling yard to being a sand blaster. And now to HD.
Anything you can do I can do better🎶🎵🎶 including the burn you must be feeling from my response to your sexist email!
His email was sexist, but hers was immature and petulant. I expect he simply clicked "delete" and was glad to have dodged a bullet. She'd have been better off staying polite and putting him in his place by listing her experience. Instead she's come across as childish.
Load More Replies...I never did "body building". Hate gyms and exercise routines. I just work hard. I can stack 140 lb. bales of hay 4 high. Cut down trees with my trusty Husqvarna. Dig up stumps with my 6 ft. pry bar. And so much more. Body building just for the sake of it is highly narcissistic. And frankly, unattractive.
If you need to be a body builder, the boss is a walking catastrophe in terms of doing his job. Because a good boss make sure people work smart and not breaking their backs.
This reminds me of a time I went to lunch with some co workers. We went to a buffet. You would pay up front and then go into the buffet area. We lined up and each paid. When a Black co worker got to the head of the line, the cashier said, "we're out of fried chicken." She didn't say that to any of the others, the rest of us were all White. Doubters, now do you understand why it's sexist?
This reminds me of teachers in elementary school who would go "I need some strong men to help me carry this or that!" I hated it then and I hate it now. The guys criticising are the same ones that complain that women asking for equality in the work place only want it for couchy jobs.
I (f) was surprised to see a couple of women on our house moving crew but man could they shift the heavy stuff.
the company I used to work for did charity days, we planted trees, brought tons of woodchips in and spread them on the walking paths. by mid afternoon saw a lot of 20-30 year old males complaining and sitting around. Meanwhile my friend and I, 5'2 ish and in our 40s kept working digging and planting, mocking them as "big strong men" as every time we passed them. sissies
Physically hard work can be pretty much anything that you break a sweat from.. maybe ive missed the part where the majority of people are doing physicall work are bodybuilders. Hmm wait… i do that kind of labour, guess im a bodybuilder now💪🏻 (5,8 155 pounds😂)
As sexist as saying "you might need to be a body builder to do the work" to a woman applying is, I don't think it was necessarily a rejection letter. At no point did he say he wasn't going to hire her, he just said that he was skeptical because it was hard work but if she felt like she could do it then to give him a call. Was it still slightly sexist? Yeah, but was it an outright rejection to being hired? No. So the title shouldn't be "woman receives rejection letter and roasts them" it should be more like "woman gets sexist response for job applicstion and roasts them"
Oh yeah, downvote me for pointing out it wasn't a rejection letter... im not saying he wasn't sexist. Jesus
Load More Replies...I recently applied for a job and had a similar experience but they told me to hung around the other workers all day and see whether I can handle this job as it was hard I did as I was told and got the job. I am 192lbs 6'2 male. In my honest opinion I think she jumped the gun and was sensitive about being talked to by a man about physical strength.
It's simple really, they're both asshats who clearly clashed. Nowhere can I see where it says she gave her resume so he could easily not have known about the past experience, and he did end with "if you feel you are up to it...", but she applied for the job so he should have at least met her and there was no need to assume that she was weak. Charlotte, on the other hand, could have easily mentioned her previous experience in her initial contact, because let's face it, it's rather pertinent, but what gets me it's her calling him names and lowering herself to "I don't want to work for your company anyway because you do bad work" when clearly she knew the sort of work they did before applying.
Honestly, the guy did say to call him if she thought she was up for it. So many people apply for jobs they are unqualified for. I once had someone contact me who had no experience in writing or anything in the medical field ... yet he was sure he was fit to apply for a position as a writer in a medical mag.
I wasn't sure what I thought of this so I came back and re-read it after a few hours. The employer's response reinforcing the physical nature of the job is very polite and ends with encouraging the applicant to reach out if they are still interested. The applicant's response, however, is snarky and out of line. Even if you're right, if that's how you handle conflict and respond to people when you feel slighted then you're gonna have problems.
That's because it's just plain sexist. The assumption that a woman, applying for a landscaping job, wouldn't know what she was in for and wouldn't be able to physically do the job. That only a 'bodybuilder' woman would be up to doing the same work as a man. Says a lot about his views on women. Would he have said the same thing to a male applicant? Doubtful.
Load More Replies...Would he have said "however unless you are a body builder I feel you cannot handle the work load" to a man?
Load More Replies...What is there to learn for her? This guy is a pain in the ass, and she would be better off working somewhere else... looks like she did learn that. What is there for him to learn? Who cares? She isn't going to work for him, and it isn't her job in life to teach him how to be a better person.
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