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Guy With One Leg Gets Questioned About Parking In A Handicapped Spot, So He Then Confronts The ‘Karen’

Guy With One Leg Gets Questioned About Parking In A Handicapped Spot, So He Then Confronts The ‘Karen’

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You’d figure some sort of empathy or even basic politeness would be in order, no matter where you are and who you talk to. Even if you’re in a parking lot where tempers can run high. Unfortunately, some folks aren’t as decent to others as they should be.

Case in point, TikTok user Pnuks whose real name is Paniora Nukunuku, shared a story that has been going viral online. He is disabled, has a fake leg, and has a permit to park in the handicapped spot. He uploaded a riveting three-part video where he vents about a rude woman who didn’t believe that he ought to use the handicapped spot. The story’s emotional. It’s honest. And it’s down below, so scroll down and check the videos out.

Paniora is a social media influencer, vlogger, youth worker, and facilitator who is based in Sydney, Australia. He knows how tough it can be to live without any support (and how much it means once you get it), so he does what he can to lend a helping hand to those in need. He’s been there himself: he was 18 when his family became homeless. In an interview with Bored Panda, Paniora revealed that he had a feeling that his videos would go viral, but what he didn’t expect was the global media coverage. So far, the reactions to the videos have been “overwhelmingly positive” and supportive.

Paniora explained to Bored Panda that the reason why he’s trying to get the video footage of the woman approaching him is to prove to everyone that she didn’t simply ‘ask’ for it. “She harassed and demanded that I disclose my medical condition as well as my permit to her. As if she has any authority to tell any random stranger that. The footage represents the daily abuse young Australian disabled people will endure. And that this footage validates their concern that this is going to be inevitable once they received their mobility permit.” He added that he’s contacted the anti-discrimination board of New South Wales and is currently awaiting a response from them.

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Paniora Nukunuku, aka Pnuks, uploaded a video trilogy on TikTok about how he confronted a rude woman. Here’s the first part

@pnuksyou are not the “Disability Police” #pnuks #amputee #disabled @mcdonalds @mcdonaldsau #lakemba♬ Cinematic film – STARWARS

In an emotional video, Pnuks vented about how this was the very first time he was harassed like this

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The author of the videos also shared with Bored Panda that he’s a youth worker whose journey started after youth services provided breakfast clubs and mentoring support for him. “I love the opportunities my local youth center provided for me and my friends living in lower social-economical areas. These positive experiences pushed me into becoming a youth worker to help people who grew up like me.”

In Paniora’s videos, he raged at the incredibly rude woman and shames her for acting like the ‘disability police.’ He also pointed out the obvious fact that while he’s in his car, you can’t see that he’s got a fake leg. However, even if you can’t see someone’s disability, you shouldn’t question it: accept it as fact and move, the man claims.

The TikToker decided that he couldn’t just sit idly by and do nothing. He confronted the rude old lady and gave her a stern talking-to in the local McDonald’s. Paniora explained that this has been the first time that someone has directly harassed him like this. This might explain the baffled look on his face and extremely emotional reaction. The second video in the trilogy got over 1.4 million likes.

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You can find the second part of the video right over here. He directly confronts the rude woman at the local McDonald’s

@pnuksReply to @lisacameron56 can we get the camera footage @mcdonaldsau ? #amputee #pnuks #lakemba #boomer #australia♬ Up – Cardi B

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While we’re advocates of diplomatically telling people when they’re wrong, we can also see that the TikToker had reached his breaking point and has had enough. He also believes that boomers wrongly think that it’s only old people who can be disabled.

The woman in question explained to him that she’d allegedly been in numerous situations where she hadn’t been able to park in the handicapped spot and assumed that Paniora was taking advantage of the situation despite having a permit to park there. She might not be quite the villain that the TikToker makes her out to be and might have had too much experience with people having fake disability cards.

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Paniora isn’t letting things lie still, however. He went to the local police station to try and get the footage of the woman berating him, but they wouldn’t release the video because no crime had been committed. Now, the TikToker is asking for all of his followers to approach McDonald’s Australia to try and get their footage.

Despite being angry at the woman, the TikToker did not want to reveal her identity and kept his phone camera pointed at his feet so as to not show her face. Whether he will remain to be as courteous if he gets the McDonald’s video footage remains to be seen.

And here’s the final part of the TikTok trilogy where Pnuks urges his followers to pressure McDonald’s into releasing the video footage of what happened

@pnuksReply to @dianademeijer hey @mcdonaldsau let us see the tapes. #amputee #pnuks #justice #disability #maccas #mcdonalds #mcdonalds♬ Make My Day (V2) – Max Farrar

Some of the reactions to the videos have been mixed. While some people absolutely agree that Paniora was in the right and the woman was in the wrong, others were wondering why exactly he wanted the video camera footage of what happened.

Back when he was a teenager, Paniera had to live in youth refuge crisis accommodation with his family. He was “blown away” by the quality of the food provided by OzHarvest. Eventually, this led to him becoming a qualified youth worker and he’s “giving back to the Belmore Centre where I received so much support from an early age.”

Unfortunately, what we saw in the videos isn’t a one-off kind of situation. Stuff like this happens all the time. When you’re done reading this post, have a look through Bored Panda’s previous article about how a woman with no legs got scolded for parking in a disabled spot right here.

This is how some people have been reacting to the man’s videos on social media

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meh
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He should have asked for her driving license since by her logic, "he has the right to demand to see whether she can drive".

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Adriana Coppage
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

ok, so I have a story like this that happened with my dad who cannot walk and is in a wheelchair. We were driving to the VA and I had to be with him because he needed help out and this bitch comes over to us and says just as he finished parking in a handicap spot: "Are you disabled? You don't look disabled?" as she ignores the disability card on the windshield she goes on, "only disabled people can use this place for parking." At this moment my dad shut the car off and said "hey can you help me get out of the car" to me. As he opened the door she said, "Ha! You have both legs! you don't have any disability!" Then I got the wheelchair out for him to transition into it. Her eyes were a mix of an apology and disbelief as he rolled away.

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Honu
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah. I've had that when the disabled relative I care for is not actually with me. I've either dropped them off or are picking them up. So the person probably went on thinking I was some selfish scofflaw. Not only are there all the people with less visible disabilities, there are those of us who are caring for people with disabilities that use the placard when necessary. The placard is in my car all the time. I only use it when I need that accessible parking because my relative is with me. She may not be with me every second. With Covid, if she has a doctor's appointment, I have to drop her off and wait outside.

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Al Jones
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't know how often people who aren't disabled misuse their parking spaces (the cynic in me says often) but one would think that most of them don't have disability cards. I think it's fair to approach those without cards but I think it's best left to authorities to deal with cards that are being misused. In any case, while I also prefer the diplomatic way, it's sometimes hard not to get angry and in this case, I really don't blame him.

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Honu
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have a disabled placard in my car all the time and could totally be abusing it. I care for a disabled relative in my home. I only use it when I need the parking for them. Now, that may mean I'm dropping off or picking up. So you may see healthy, able bodied, non-elderly me getting in and out of my car just fine with that placard hanging in my window. That still doesn't mean I'm misusing it. You may think it's ok to approach a stranger and accuse them of unethical behavior with absolutely no evidence. I think that's appallingly rude. You are not in any position to enforce the law, so what would your purpose be in doing that? I don't randomly approach other motorists and demand to see their licenses. I don't approach random dog walkers and demand to see check their dog's rabies tag is up to date. I don't randomly ask my neighbors if they'd paid their property taxes. Do all those things affect life in my community? Sure. Do I get to appoint myself community enforcer? No.

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Lauren Caswell
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3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes. I'm so tired of being harassed, approached despite my permit being clearly displayed, and even being told I probably pinched my permit from a grandparent!! It's more than insulting it's invasive, I don't owe these strangers an explanation of my medical history. I have a permit. If they have a problem, take a pic of the permit: it's registered to me. I've even been told to move by someone who had no permit, because "it's an unwritten rule these parks are for the elderly". No. I won't leave the park because I'm young, I have the permit for a reason. It's time people realise the harm they are doing by harassing those who are disabled. If you think they are using a permit that isn't theirs: take a photo, report it. Don't assume you have the right to demand answers from a stranger about their private health >:(

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Honu
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Even taking the picture and reporting it isn't necessarily fair. I've been stopped by the self-appointed placard police when I'm picking up or dropping off the disabled relative I care for. Yes. I am perfectly able bodied. My relative who is not with me at that second (maybe seeing the doctor, getting their hair done, visiting someone) needed me to park that close. So now I'm supposed to get in trouble because I am there by myself at that moment and the person that took the picture didn't actually see me with the person who's placard it is. Not all disabled people can drive.

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Hooked
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I must admit I do this often. But I check if they have a permit on their dashboard first. If so, I walk away. If not, I tell people (nicely) they are parked in a handicap zone without having a permit for it. Why I do this you ask ? let me tell you why : My little sis has MS and is in a wheelchair, unable to walk anymore. I can't count the times when we had to park at a non-handicap spot because some lazy *$@# parked their car in the most convenient spot in the parking area : the handicap spot. My sister is paying a considerable amount every year for the permit and we need the bigger spot to get her out of the car more easily. And yes, I *am* an "older" person ;-)

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Lucas
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In my village there is a woman who sometimes uses the disabled spaces in our small shopping centre when she has no right. Apparently she'll thump anyone who so much as mentions it to her. She's been reported and we can only hope she gets caught in the act. Sadly we sometimes have to be very cautious when tackling someone who is cr*ppy enough to behave like this. I support your actions, just don't want you hurt by some moron. Horrified that you have to pay a considerable amount for a permit. In England a Blue Badge is £10.00 - in Wales it's free.

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OhForSmegSake
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Something a lot of idiots don't realise too, if you're the carer/driver for someone with a disability in Australia and you are picking them up or dropping them off somewhere, you are allowed to parking in the disabled bays as long as you display the acrod card.

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Honu
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Same here in the US. Doesn't keep the Karens from giving me grief, sadly.

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Gabi
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I couldn't care less if she has had to deal with fake disables many many times. She should mind her own f*****g business or call the police if she thinks there is something fishy, but not playing disability police. Hopefully this was a good lesson for her. As OP says, you see the card, you shut up.

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Salty Old Woman
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3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What's interesting about this is that in the US, calling the police on a BIPOC could get them killed. So sometimes they would say "just talk to us. Just ask us. Please don't call the cops". But now it's "don't talk to me. Call the police if you have a problem". I'm not trying to be funny in asking this, but which is it? And no, I'm not a Karen. Just someone who thinks I might have aspergers Because things like this often don't make any sense to me.

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Ozacoter
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am so tired of people judging others for not looking sick enough. I am disabled because of my diseases but if you look at me I just look a bit tired thats all. I cannot walk the 15mins from the bus stop to my doctor uo and down without two days of a lot of pain. But the government wont give me help to pay for a car or any parking permit.

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Hiker Chick
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I've had to back my friend's wheelchair van out of parking spaces when other cars park too close for the wheelchair ramp on the side of the van to work. I think they happens to him fairly often. People seem to ignore parking lot markings.

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Erik Ivan
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Headline: Things That Will NOT Happen In Sweden. Most people here would probably die rather then make a scene by questioning somebodys parking permit.

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Max
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My dad is quadruplegic. His adapted car, which is PA drives, has blacked-out windows. He thinks it's cool. He also thinks it's hilarious when the ~*disability police*~ come to confront his PA about being abled and parking in disability spaces and then his PA starts unloading a very obviously disabled man from the back of the van.

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WilvanderHeijden
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Just another example of an idiot making a fool of herself. Happens every day, everywhere around the world. Nothing will change, no matter how many tiktok videos you put on social media. Don't even acknowledge the existence of these morons by giving them any publicity. The best way to treat them is ignoring them. It riles them up and gives them a high blood pressure. That's what we're aiming for...

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Id row
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As someone with a hidden disability and a disabled plate on my car, this enrages me. No, you do NOT have a right to question me. Doctors do not give out those permits like a lollypop after a shot. You have to need it to get it. No one has a right to your medical information. God help the first person that does this crap to me. I'm going to call 911 and have them reported for harassment, verbal assault and intimidation. As long as there's a placard or plate, walk tf away. It's not your business.

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John Juan
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The reverse of this: My wife is disabled and we have "disabled" license plate on the car. One day when she wasn't with me I used a regular parking space (as I do when she's not along). Guy yelled at me for taking up a non-disabled parking space when I could have used the other kind! Sheesh..... people are stupid.

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LeilaOdinis
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That woman was being a horrible human. I feel your pain. This happened to my mum and I. She was disabled due to her knees. She doesn't look "DisABled". She drove to the pharmacy with me to get a 'script for the cat. I got out of the passenger's side. A older lady started in on me saying I had no right to park there since I wasn't disabled. My mother wasn't disabled in her eyes. My Mum held up the parking placard. The woman shut up. I did tell the woman to keep her nose in her own business. She ran into the same store I was going into. People can't leave things well enough alone.

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deanna woods
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My sister has epilepsy and her seizures are not very noticeable because they are what are known as absence seizures, so it just looks like she is daydreaming. I was recently diagnosed with spinal stenosis, so I can't stand for very long or walk very far. Our disabilities are not visible, but they are there and we do not have to explain them to anyone. Not all disabilities are visible and not all disabled people are elderly. If you see a person parked in a handicap parking space wait a few seconds before you go off on them and get upset because they are parked where you don't think they should be parked. Or better yet, just mind your own business and leave others alone.

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Laura Maeflower
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The only time I've ever questioned it(in my head mind you), was when I saw a guy in handicap on a motorcycle. You can't exactly hang your tag off the mirror and, well, it was a motorcycle. But my second thought was "I wonder what his disability is.", not "does he even have a disability?" I know I don't know everything and now I am aware that there are disabilities you can have where you can also ride a motorcycle. I considered getting a disability card when I had chronic stomach pain which worsened when I stood upright(lasted about two years). I don't doubt people would have given me looks for that invisible condition. Never, ever question someone about this, it's none of your business!

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Honu
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A relative of mine had one temporarily. He developed severe breathing issues due to what he was exposed to during his military service. It took a couple years for it to get better. He really only used it at his university because the lots were often really far from his classes. He got crap all the time because he looked like a super fit guy in his 20s. He totally could've ridden a motorcycle. However, on days when his breathing was bad, walking a few blocks would've been too much.

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KatHat
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm betting there's a GOOD chance grandma there lets her non-disabled grandkids use her permit and so she knows how often this system is abused. A LOT of people abuse it. I agree with the man that it's not right for anyone to check with anyone else but it also sucks that so many people are assholes. I mean, I've heard people bragging about taking grandma's car so we can use the tags. It sucks.

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Stephanie Rassier
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Our local grocery store has four spots labeled "For Veteran Use: Thank You for Your Service." I rarely park in one of these and NOT get a dirty look from some idiot who doesn't realize that veterans come in a couple of different genders. Some old dude came up to me once and said "that spot is for veterans, you should show some respect." I showed him my VA ID card that states "service connected" and asked if two tours in Iraq was veteran enough for him.

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Laura Watts
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We get the same as it's not an adult but my young autistic daughter . People are given these cards for reasons that are nothing to do with anyone else I wish the "Karen's" would just bloody stop

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Leo Domitrix
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I know some people who do "borrow" a relative's disabled permit/card ----- OK, fine, my one set of cousins, ugh ----- but 99% of the time? Assume it's legit, shut up, and if you need one? Apply for one.

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Boop le nose
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Also why the fucj so many pictures of a perfectly watchable video

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Guido Pisano
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

On the other side, here in italy, I've seen TOO MUCH times people that uses disability pass of a relative to park where they want... (Usage of that pass is allowed only if you're the person disabled or if you have the disabled person on board)...

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Honu
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't know if it's different in Italy. In my state in the US it is allowed when they are on board, or when picking up and dropping off. So the disabled person does not need to be with me on board when I'm parking. Sure. Some people do abuse other people's parking placards. However, you cannot tell just by looking at someone if that is what they are doing. Unfortunately, many people assume they can and harass people when it's really none of their business to be the self-appointed disability police. I know people are doing it with good intentions, but it results in disabled people and their caretakers being harassed on a regular basis by people who think they're entitled to make them explain themselves.

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Beetle The SilkWing
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"Why do old people think they're the disability police" was not something I thought I would ever hear

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Lesley Riddle
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My gripe is this, when you drop a disabled person off at the front door and then go park in a disabled spot and wait in the vehicle until the disabled person is ready and then drive back over to pick them up at the front door. Since the driver is not disabled and is not getting out of the vehicle at the parking spot, then they can park in a regular parking spot while they are waiting. My husband does that for me. He does not take up a disabled parking spot while he’s waiting for me to let him know I am ready. That way he frees up the spot for someone who really needs it.

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Amie Redman
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Did he have a placard? Yes? And even if he didn’t, maybe she should have minded her own business?

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Bianca Lowe
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Imagine being Jonas and your job is to caption and make an article out of someone's Tik Tok videos lmaooooo

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Norart
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Huge over reaction. My mom would do that. She's had the permit for years and is not happy when people park in the spot illegally. Over reaction on the guys part

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Shinomi Chan
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So uh.. Who in their right mind, thinks it's "okay" to judge literally anyone based off of HOW THEY LOOK. You don't know em'. You don't know what they've been through. This applies to EVERYONE. Of course more so in a situation like this. But you shouldn't judge anyone. The End.

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Elena Vasss
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3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A guy expecting empathy when he doesn't show it. I do not approve of the attitude of any of them.

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Elena Vasss
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I do not approve a rude behaviour not matter where it is coming from. In my country you can illegally "buy" such card. Rich people park on the disabled people parking sports. It is everyones business to be "disability police" so I do not agree with the reaction of this guy and I also find it a bit rude.

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Alyson Lovegrove
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There's so many people who use disability spaces, she saw him sitting in the car and had the courage to ask, he said yes I am and she left. He follow her cos it was video opportunities, she even tries to explain. 😔

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Brandy Grote
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have had a disabled placard for decades. If all the handicapped spots are taken, you know what I do? I find another open space. Or circle the lot again and see if one opens up. Generally I can get a space pretty close, and that's fine for all but my very worst days. I've been very fortunate that no one has questioned me about my placard or plates.

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Colleen Garland
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

These handicap signs are stolen regularly. My Mom's was stolen from my car. A Minnesota of MN athlete was seen jogging off from his car with the sign. These are extremely rare but it happens. This person was an extreme d**k because he certainly should have a sign. It may have been a assault on a "foreigner". My Mom had one for having Alzheimer's. As it happens I will have to have one in a few years for the same reason. Your disability doesn't always show to the world. If they run off though, let the police know.

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Boop le nose
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

To be fair. People over here get the card of a relative or partner. Some had one for an injury already cured. There is a spot 2 doors down, other side of the street, and you really don't want to see the people that abuse a card. Because it is a really busy street.

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Chich
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sadly I have known a few people who have no disabilities but have taken and use their relatives tag. One young woman was using her grandmothers tag and she had passed away the year before.

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Ula
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think you enjoyed it more than were bothered by it.

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Susan Green
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Gad some people are so disgusting! No wonder I prefer animals over most people.

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Elica
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Am I too naive to think this could've been a calmer conversation? Do feel bad for the guy, it must've been tough for him. Like, the old lady may have disabled friends or family whose spot got taken by people with fake cards. And the guy could've just explained his situation to her. It would've been nice for her to apologize, but when approached unexpectedly it's not unusual for people to rush up some mental self-defense and alienation.

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Victoria Pitt
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I see what you're saying but I'm glad he got worked up. Like, you're life is already hard enough living with a disability. Why should you have to go around "calmly" explaining yourself to ignorant strangers. She was way out of line.

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Salma Hernández
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Karen's the new plague of this world. They think they are doing right, but is the opposite.

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Henry Tuttle
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Here in the US, tons of people have handicapped placards who are obviously not disabled. AFAIK, there is no penalty for doctors giving them without cause, so they do it as a service for their customers. I've seen people loading heavy things into cars, getting out of sports cars that I would have trouble getting out of, etc. I've never approached anyone to hassle them as you don't know what else might be going on (they might be a healthy person there to pick up or drop off a disabled person, etc.) And I didn't do a "full investigation" so I could have missed something. But unless there is a penalty for giving out handicapped placards to undeserving people, I'm CERTAIN it is happening.

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Ula
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Hmmm but this happened because people abuse and park on these spots when they are perfextly fine. So how is anyone supposed to check, the only way is to ask politly...

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Sara Diogo
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Many people drive without a license. That doesn't give me right to ask every driver for their license. That's the police's job.

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Lee Gilliland
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Can we place stop using the term "Karen"? You can do better than calling people names when they are rude. That just makes everyone look petty

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S
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sure, how about instead of Karen we just call her what she is, a bitch. Who deserves to be called out for her bs.

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Leslie Burleson
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Calm down dude . Did somebody hit a sore spot ? She's an asshole, doesn't mean you need to be too

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Sloopi
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3 years ago

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He hopped out of his car to confront the Kare n.

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Logically Reasonable
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3 years ago

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Take your leg off, smack the bitch upside her head, put your leg back on and walk off. Nuff said!!

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I worked with a Karen like that. Plot twist: She's blind in one eye so she cannot drive but has the disability card, and her perfectly healthy husband drives here everywhere. Now explain to me why they need to park on the very few disabled spots everywhere?! She can walk much better than a lady that's say six months pregnant... So: Disability card holders are humans, therefore you know there will be some outright cheaters as well as regular opportunists; but the majority have disabilities and have to jump through ridiculous hoops we don't understand, just to get what they're absolutely due. On balance, do what this poster says unless you personally and reliably know that it's a cheater; then come down hard on them.

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In her defense, she might have had too many bad experiences with people occupying these kinds of parking spots, which has made her suspicious. I don’t know how it goes in other countries, but in The Netherlands there are plenty of people fraudulently driving around with a handicapped pass without actually being handicapped, because it allows them to have a free parking spot near their front door.

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Monty Is Fiennes
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

sorry, but sh*tty people are everywhere.... if you are not SURE someone is abusing disabled spaces... keep your opinion to yourself... coz let me tell you the ones that do it on purpose, DO NOT give a sh*t that you pull them up (you are most likely to be abused or violently attacked - REPORT THEM... squeaky wheel and all that) and the disabled that you harrass by accident DO NOT need the added aggravation in a day that no doubt is already difficult for varying reasons...

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Yes, it's offensive to ask, but you got out of your car to yell at an old lady. She was trying to tell him that she gets screwed by people misusing handicap spaces... Here you are a young man, going to get in her face and cutting her off when she is speaking. It could have been a teaching moment, but instead you had to be just as rude.

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Samantha Lomb
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

An old entitled white lady came over and questioned his disability because despite having a placard she saw a young non white man and made a bunch of assumptions that he was not disabled and was misusing the system. She got exactly what she deserved for sticking her nose where it doesn't belong and his anger is a result of this not being a isolated incident.

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Michał Jastrzębski
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a female, assuming about a man. Paint me surprised, lol.

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Mir Adwari
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Fairly certain sex of the person had nothing to do with this - stop polishing your bitterness.

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meh
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He should have asked for her driving license since by her logic, "he has the right to demand to see whether she can drive".

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Adriana Coppage
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

ok, so I have a story like this that happened with my dad who cannot walk and is in a wheelchair. We were driving to the VA and I had to be with him because he needed help out and this bitch comes over to us and says just as he finished parking in a handicap spot: "Are you disabled? You don't look disabled?" as she ignores the disability card on the windshield she goes on, "only disabled people can use this place for parking." At this moment my dad shut the car off and said "hey can you help me get out of the car" to me. As he opened the door she said, "Ha! You have both legs! you don't have any disability!" Then I got the wheelchair out for him to transition into it. Her eyes were a mix of an apology and disbelief as he rolled away.

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Honu
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah. I've had that when the disabled relative I care for is not actually with me. I've either dropped them off or are picking them up. So the person probably went on thinking I was some selfish scofflaw. Not only are there all the people with less visible disabilities, there are those of us who are caring for people with disabilities that use the placard when necessary. The placard is in my car all the time. I only use it when I need that accessible parking because my relative is with me. She may not be with me every second. With Covid, if she has a doctor's appointment, I have to drop her off and wait outside.

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Al Jones
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't know how often people who aren't disabled misuse their parking spaces (the cynic in me says often) but one would think that most of them don't have disability cards. I think it's fair to approach those without cards but I think it's best left to authorities to deal with cards that are being misused. In any case, while I also prefer the diplomatic way, it's sometimes hard not to get angry and in this case, I really don't blame him.

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Honu
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have a disabled placard in my car all the time and could totally be abusing it. I care for a disabled relative in my home. I only use it when I need the parking for them. Now, that may mean I'm dropping off or picking up. So you may see healthy, able bodied, non-elderly me getting in and out of my car just fine with that placard hanging in my window. That still doesn't mean I'm misusing it. You may think it's ok to approach a stranger and accuse them of unethical behavior with absolutely no evidence. I think that's appallingly rude. You are not in any position to enforce the law, so what would your purpose be in doing that? I don't randomly approach other motorists and demand to see their licenses. I don't approach random dog walkers and demand to see check their dog's rabies tag is up to date. I don't randomly ask my neighbors if they'd paid their property taxes. Do all those things affect life in my community? Sure. Do I get to appoint myself community enforcer? No.

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Lauren Caswell
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3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes. I'm so tired of being harassed, approached despite my permit being clearly displayed, and even being told I probably pinched my permit from a grandparent!! It's more than insulting it's invasive, I don't owe these strangers an explanation of my medical history. I have a permit. If they have a problem, take a pic of the permit: it's registered to me. I've even been told to move by someone who had no permit, because "it's an unwritten rule these parks are for the elderly". No. I won't leave the park because I'm young, I have the permit for a reason. It's time people realise the harm they are doing by harassing those who are disabled. If you think they are using a permit that isn't theirs: take a photo, report it. Don't assume you have the right to demand answers from a stranger about their private health >:(

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Honu
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Even taking the picture and reporting it isn't necessarily fair. I've been stopped by the self-appointed placard police when I'm picking up or dropping off the disabled relative I care for. Yes. I am perfectly able bodied. My relative who is not with me at that second (maybe seeing the doctor, getting their hair done, visiting someone) needed me to park that close. So now I'm supposed to get in trouble because I am there by myself at that moment and the person that took the picture didn't actually see me with the person who's placard it is. Not all disabled people can drive.

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Hooked
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I must admit I do this often. But I check if they have a permit on their dashboard first. If so, I walk away. If not, I tell people (nicely) they are parked in a handicap zone without having a permit for it. Why I do this you ask ? let me tell you why : My little sis has MS and is in a wheelchair, unable to walk anymore. I can't count the times when we had to park at a non-handicap spot because some lazy *$@# parked their car in the most convenient spot in the parking area : the handicap spot. My sister is paying a considerable amount every year for the permit and we need the bigger spot to get her out of the car more easily. And yes, I *am* an "older" person ;-)

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Lucas
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In my village there is a woman who sometimes uses the disabled spaces in our small shopping centre when she has no right. Apparently she'll thump anyone who so much as mentions it to her. She's been reported and we can only hope she gets caught in the act. Sadly we sometimes have to be very cautious when tackling someone who is cr*ppy enough to behave like this. I support your actions, just don't want you hurt by some moron. Horrified that you have to pay a considerable amount for a permit. In England a Blue Badge is £10.00 - in Wales it's free.

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OhForSmegSake
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Something a lot of idiots don't realise too, if you're the carer/driver for someone with a disability in Australia and you are picking them up or dropping them off somewhere, you are allowed to parking in the disabled bays as long as you display the acrod card.

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Honu
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Same here in the US. Doesn't keep the Karens from giving me grief, sadly.

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Gabi
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I couldn't care less if she has had to deal with fake disables many many times. She should mind her own f*****g business or call the police if she thinks there is something fishy, but not playing disability police. Hopefully this was a good lesson for her. As OP says, you see the card, you shut up.

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Salty Old Woman
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3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What's interesting about this is that in the US, calling the police on a BIPOC could get them killed. So sometimes they would say "just talk to us. Just ask us. Please don't call the cops". But now it's "don't talk to me. Call the police if you have a problem". I'm not trying to be funny in asking this, but which is it? And no, I'm not a Karen. Just someone who thinks I might have aspergers Because things like this often don't make any sense to me.

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Ozacoter
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am so tired of people judging others for not looking sick enough. I am disabled because of my diseases but if you look at me I just look a bit tired thats all. I cannot walk the 15mins from the bus stop to my doctor uo and down without two days of a lot of pain. But the government wont give me help to pay for a car or any parking permit.

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Hiker Chick
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I've had to back my friend's wheelchair van out of parking spaces when other cars park too close for the wheelchair ramp on the side of the van to work. I think they happens to him fairly often. People seem to ignore parking lot markings.

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Erik Ivan
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Headline: Things That Will NOT Happen In Sweden. Most people here would probably die rather then make a scene by questioning somebodys parking permit.

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Max
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My dad is quadruplegic. His adapted car, which is PA drives, has blacked-out windows. He thinks it's cool. He also thinks it's hilarious when the ~*disability police*~ come to confront his PA about being abled and parking in disability spaces and then his PA starts unloading a very obviously disabled man from the back of the van.

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WilvanderHeijden
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Just another example of an idiot making a fool of herself. Happens every day, everywhere around the world. Nothing will change, no matter how many tiktok videos you put on social media. Don't even acknowledge the existence of these morons by giving them any publicity. The best way to treat them is ignoring them. It riles them up and gives them a high blood pressure. That's what we're aiming for...

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Id row
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As someone with a hidden disability and a disabled plate on my car, this enrages me. No, you do NOT have a right to question me. Doctors do not give out those permits like a lollypop after a shot. You have to need it to get it. No one has a right to your medical information. God help the first person that does this crap to me. I'm going to call 911 and have them reported for harassment, verbal assault and intimidation. As long as there's a placard or plate, walk tf away. It's not your business.

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John Juan
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The reverse of this: My wife is disabled and we have "disabled" license plate on the car. One day when she wasn't with me I used a regular parking space (as I do when she's not along). Guy yelled at me for taking up a non-disabled parking space when I could have used the other kind! Sheesh..... people are stupid.

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LeilaOdinis
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That woman was being a horrible human. I feel your pain. This happened to my mum and I. She was disabled due to her knees. She doesn't look "DisABled". She drove to the pharmacy with me to get a 'script for the cat. I got out of the passenger's side. A older lady started in on me saying I had no right to park there since I wasn't disabled. My mother wasn't disabled in her eyes. My Mum held up the parking placard. The woman shut up. I did tell the woman to keep her nose in her own business. She ran into the same store I was going into. People can't leave things well enough alone.

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deanna woods
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My sister has epilepsy and her seizures are not very noticeable because they are what are known as absence seizures, so it just looks like she is daydreaming. I was recently diagnosed with spinal stenosis, so I can't stand for very long or walk very far. Our disabilities are not visible, but they are there and we do not have to explain them to anyone. Not all disabilities are visible and not all disabled people are elderly. If you see a person parked in a handicap parking space wait a few seconds before you go off on them and get upset because they are parked where you don't think they should be parked. Or better yet, just mind your own business and leave others alone.

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Laura Maeflower
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The only time I've ever questioned it(in my head mind you), was when I saw a guy in handicap on a motorcycle. You can't exactly hang your tag off the mirror and, well, it was a motorcycle. But my second thought was "I wonder what his disability is.", not "does he even have a disability?" I know I don't know everything and now I am aware that there are disabilities you can have where you can also ride a motorcycle. I considered getting a disability card when I had chronic stomach pain which worsened when I stood upright(lasted about two years). I don't doubt people would have given me looks for that invisible condition. Never, ever question someone about this, it's none of your business!

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Honu
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A relative of mine had one temporarily. He developed severe breathing issues due to what he was exposed to during his military service. It took a couple years for it to get better. He really only used it at his university because the lots were often really far from his classes. He got crap all the time because he looked like a super fit guy in his 20s. He totally could've ridden a motorcycle. However, on days when his breathing was bad, walking a few blocks would've been too much.

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KatHat
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm betting there's a GOOD chance grandma there lets her non-disabled grandkids use her permit and so she knows how often this system is abused. A LOT of people abuse it. I agree with the man that it's not right for anyone to check with anyone else but it also sucks that so many people are assholes. I mean, I've heard people bragging about taking grandma's car so we can use the tags. It sucks.

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Stephanie Rassier
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Our local grocery store has four spots labeled "For Veteran Use: Thank You for Your Service." I rarely park in one of these and NOT get a dirty look from some idiot who doesn't realize that veterans come in a couple of different genders. Some old dude came up to me once and said "that spot is for veterans, you should show some respect." I showed him my VA ID card that states "service connected" and asked if two tours in Iraq was veteran enough for him.

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Laura Watts
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We get the same as it's not an adult but my young autistic daughter . People are given these cards for reasons that are nothing to do with anyone else I wish the "Karen's" would just bloody stop

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Leo Domitrix
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I know some people who do "borrow" a relative's disabled permit/card ----- OK, fine, my one set of cousins, ugh ----- but 99% of the time? Assume it's legit, shut up, and if you need one? Apply for one.

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Boop le nose
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Also why the fucj so many pictures of a perfectly watchable video

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Guido Pisano
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

On the other side, here in italy, I've seen TOO MUCH times people that uses disability pass of a relative to park where they want... (Usage of that pass is allowed only if you're the person disabled or if you have the disabled person on board)...

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Honu
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't know if it's different in Italy. In my state in the US it is allowed when they are on board, or when picking up and dropping off. So the disabled person does not need to be with me on board when I'm parking. Sure. Some people do abuse other people's parking placards. However, you cannot tell just by looking at someone if that is what they are doing. Unfortunately, many people assume they can and harass people when it's really none of their business to be the self-appointed disability police. I know people are doing it with good intentions, but it results in disabled people and their caretakers being harassed on a regular basis by people who think they're entitled to make them explain themselves.

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Beetle The SilkWing
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"Why do old people think they're the disability police" was not something I thought I would ever hear

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Lesley Riddle
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My gripe is this, when you drop a disabled person off at the front door and then go park in a disabled spot and wait in the vehicle until the disabled person is ready and then drive back over to pick them up at the front door. Since the driver is not disabled and is not getting out of the vehicle at the parking spot, then they can park in a regular parking spot while they are waiting. My husband does that for me. He does not take up a disabled parking spot while he’s waiting for me to let him know I am ready. That way he frees up the spot for someone who really needs it.

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Amie Redman
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Did he have a placard? Yes? And even if he didn’t, maybe she should have minded her own business?

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Bianca Lowe
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Imagine being Jonas and your job is to caption and make an article out of someone's Tik Tok videos lmaooooo

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Norart
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Huge over reaction. My mom would do that. She's had the permit for years and is not happy when people park in the spot illegally. Over reaction on the guys part

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Shinomi Chan
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So uh.. Who in their right mind, thinks it's "okay" to judge literally anyone based off of HOW THEY LOOK. You don't know em'. You don't know what they've been through. This applies to EVERYONE. Of course more so in a situation like this. But you shouldn't judge anyone. The End.

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Elena Vasss
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3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A guy expecting empathy when he doesn't show it. I do not approve of the attitude of any of them.

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Elena Vasss
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I do not approve a rude behaviour not matter where it is coming from. In my country you can illegally "buy" such card. Rich people park on the disabled people parking sports. It is everyones business to be "disability police" so I do not agree with the reaction of this guy and I also find it a bit rude.

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Alyson Lovegrove
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There's so many people who use disability spaces, she saw him sitting in the car and had the courage to ask, he said yes I am and she left. He follow her cos it was video opportunities, she even tries to explain. 😔

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Brandy Grote
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have had a disabled placard for decades. If all the handicapped spots are taken, you know what I do? I find another open space. Or circle the lot again and see if one opens up. Generally I can get a space pretty close, and that's fine for all but my very worst days. I've been very fortunate that no one has questioned me about my placard or plates.

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Colleen Garland
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

These handicap signs are stolen regularly. My Mom's was stolen from my car. A Minnesota of MN athlete was seen jogging off from his car with the sign. These are extremely rare but it happens. This person was an extreme d**k because he certainly should have a sign. It may have been a assault on a "foreigner". My Mom had one for having Alzheimer's. As it happens I will have to have one in a few years for the same reason. Your disability doesn't always show to the world. If they run off though, let the police know.

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Boop le nose
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

To be fair. People over here get the card of a relative or partner. Some had one for an injury already cured. There is a spot 2 doors down, other side of the street, and you really don't want to see the people that abuse a card. Because it is a really busy street.

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Chich
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sadly I have known a few people who have no disabilities but have taken and use their relatives tag. One young woman was using her grandmothers tag and she had passed away the year before.

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Ula
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think you enjoyed it more than were bothered by it.

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Susan Green
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Gad some people are so disgusting! No wonder I prefer animals over most people.

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Elica
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Am I too naive to think this could've been a calmer conversation? Do feel bad for the guy, it must've been tough for him. Like, the old lady may have disabled friends or family whose spot got taken by people with fake cards. And the guy could've just explained his situation to her. It would've been nice for her to apologize, but when approached unexpectedly it's not unusual for people to rush up some mental self-defense and alienation.

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Victoria Pitt
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I see what you're saying but I'm glad he got worked up. Like, you're life is already hard enough living with a disability. Why should you have to go around "calmly" explaining yourself to ignorant strangers. She was way out of line.

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Salma Hernández
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Karen's the new plague of this world. They think they are doing right, but is the opposite.

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Henry Tuttle
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Here in the US, tons of people have handicapped placards who are obviously not disabled. AFAIK, there is no penalty for doctors giving them without cause, so they do it as a service for their customers. I've seen people loading heavy things into cars, getting out of sports cars that I would have trouble getting out of, etc. I've never approached anyone to hassle them as you don't know what else might be going on (they might be a healthy person there to pick up or drop off a disabled person, etc.) And I didn't do a "full investigation" so I could have missed something. But unless there is a penalty for giving out handicapped placards to undeserving people, I'm CERTAIN it is happening.

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Ula
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Hmmm but this happened because people abuse and park on these spots when they are perfextly fine. So how is anyone supposed to check, the only way is to ask politly...

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Sara Diogo
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Many people drive without a license. That doesn't give me right to ask every driver for their license. That's the police's job.

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Lee Gilliland
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Can we place stop using the term "Karen"? You can do better than calling people names when they are rude. That just makes everyone look petty

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sure, how about instead of Karen we just call her what she is, a bitch. Who deserves to be called out for her bs.

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Leslie Burleson
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3 years ago

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Calm down dude . Did somebody hit a sore spot ? She's an asshole, doesn't mean you need to be too

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Sloopi
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3 years ago

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He hopped out of his car to confront the Kare n.

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Logically Reasonable
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3 years ago

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Take your leg off, smack the bitch upside her head, put your leg back on and walk off. Nuff said!!

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Marcellus the Third
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3 years ago

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I worked with a Karen like that. Plot twist: She's blind in one eye so she cannot drive but has the disability card, and her perfectly healthy husband drives here everywhere. Now explain to me why they need to park on the very few disabled spots everywhere?! She can walk much better than a lady that's say six months pregnant... So: Disability card holders are humans, therefore you know there will be some outright cheaters as well as regular opportunists; but the majority have disabilities and have to jump through ridiculous hoops we don't understand, just to get what they're absolutely due. On balance, do what this poster says unless you personally and reliably know that it's a cheater; then come down hard on them.

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Sanne H.
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3 years ago

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In her defense, she might have had too many bad experiences with people occupying these kinds of parking spots, which has made her suspicious. I don’t know how it goes in other countries, but in The Netherlands there are plenty of people fraudulently driving around with a handicapped pass without actually being handicapped, because it allows them to have a free parking spot near their front door.

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Monty Is Fiennes
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

sorry, but sh*tty people are everywhere.... if you are not SURE someone is abusing disabled spaces... keep your opinion to yourself... coz let me tell you the ones that do it on purpose, DO NOT give a sh*t that you pull them up (you are most likely to be abused or violently attacked - REPORT THEM... squeaky wheel and all that) and the disabled that you harrass by accident DO NOT need the added aggravation in a day that no doubt is already difficult for varying reasons...

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Stille20
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3 years ago (edited)

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Yes, it's offensive to ask, but you got out of your car to yell at an old lady. She was trying to tell him that she gets screwed by people misusing handicap spaces... Here you are a young man, going to get in her face and cutting her off when she is speaking. It could have been a teaching moment, but instead you had to be just as rude.

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Samantha Lomb
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

An old entitled white lady came over and questioned his disability because despite having a placard she saw a young non white man and made a bunch of assumptions that he was not disabled and was misusing the system. She got exactly what she deserved for sticking her nose where it doesn't belong and his anger is a result of this not being a isolated incident.

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Michał Jastrzębski
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3 years ago

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a female, assuming about a man. Paint me surprised, lol.

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Mir Adwari
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Fairly certain sex of the person had nothing to do with this - stop polishing your bitterness.

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