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Family Drama Ensues After Wife Comes Home To Find 7-Month-Old Daughter Hungry And With A Full Diaper While Husband Is “Live Streaming” In Another Room
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Family Drama Ensues After Wife Comes Home To Find 7-Month-Old Daughter Hungry And With A Full Diaper While Husband Is “Live Streaming” In Another Room

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It’s easy to get hate on the internet, but one man has just become one of the biggest villains on Reddit, and it sounds like he totally deserved it.

A few days ago, his wife turned to the platform’s ‘Am I the [Jerk]?‘ community to share a conflict that she just had with him, which involved the man neglecting their child in favor of bolstering his YouTube channel.

Apparently, the channel has 14,000 followers and he’s a big fan of live streaming, saying that his followers “are good for his mental health and that engaging with them weekly makes him become better at socializing and communicating.” But with the couple’s 7-month-old child, the husband keeps complaining that he doesn’t have enough time to do this.

The wife, however, thought it was a sacrifice he was willing to make for their daughter. Until recently when she came back from the grocery store.

This man couldn’t strike a balance between parenting and streaming, and his 7-month-old daughter had to bear the consequences

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While ignoring a child’s needs is inexcusable, parents must remember that raising children as a team is about working together, agreeing on a shared approach, making decisions together, and supporting each other.

It’s not just about agreeing on things like children’s bedtimes, family nutrition, or discipline (even though these points are really important too), but also about you and your partner sharing responsibilities such as chores, paying the bills, handling paperwork, earning an income, and so on.

Talya Stone, a former public relations specialist turned blogger and the woman behind online journals Motherhood: The Real Deal and 40 Now What, who shares bold and authentic takes on a variety of topics including parenting and emotional well-being, has also covered parental disagreements between partners. She said that, at least in her own experience, communication is the key. “Even though you may not need clearly defined responsibilities, it’s important to sit down and discuss your approach to both parenting and the domestic scene, and the sharing of duties to enable a more collaborative approach to both aspects,” Stone told Bored Panda. “This also helps to minimize confusion and the potential for arguments and resentment stemming from either!”

Raising children as a team gets easier with time and practice. But experts say there are also some skills that help you with parenting teamwork. These include:

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  • problem-solving – this means finding new and creative solutions in situations where you’re stuck or can’t work through family issues;
  • managing conflict – this means managing and resolving disagreements in a collaborative and positive way;
  • talking and listening – this means communicating in ways that help you connect and strengthen your relationship;
  • backing each other up – this means parenting in consistent and supportive ways;
  • accepting each other – this means living with and valuing each other’s differences.

Staying healthy, managing stress, and looking after yourself more can generally give you increased energy.

“As parents, it’s so important to retain a sense of self—both for us and for our children,” Stone said. “While I do think you need to be on the same page with your partner on parenting, it’s important to honor your individual personalities and quirks, and I think that children really benefit from being exposed to and nurtured with these differences in the mix.”

The mom believes it all adds to the rich tapestry of life and would otherwise result in raising automatons.

Most people thought the husband was out of his mind

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With so many things going on, it’s only natural that every now and then, parents have differences in opinion. Again, the emphasis should be on tackling them—unresolved issues can lead to fractures in the relationship and possibly even divorce or separation.

“It’s important to talk about and address issues as they come up, rather than letting them build up and fester which usually results in a bigger conflict,” Talya Stone said. “I wouldn’t say it’s about keeping them contained, so much as recognizing the issues as they present themselves, then setting aside time to discuss them in a calm manner rather than in the heat of the moment which typically doesn’t end well.”

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The consequences of having prolonged differences in parenting can lead to more conflict, emotional and physical disconnect, lack of trust, and certain negative behavioral changes, so it’s vital to strive for a more unified approach.

It’s also worth remembering that every parent makes mistakes. You and your partner aren’t exempt from this universal truth either.

But if something huge comes up, and the two of you can’t resolve your differences in a respectful way, you may want to consider seeing a mental health professional.

Try to truly understand the reasoning behind the other parent’s stance by building upon common ground and working back to the cause of the problem.

But some called out the mother’s suspicious 4-hour grocery run

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Spannidandoolar
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I love how because she's female they are all classing her 4 hour grocery (and I assume other household essentials/errands) trip as "me time" for her and therefore she is TA. HOUSEHOLD TASKS DO NOT COUNT AS TIME FOR YOURSELF!

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JazzyfromtheNati
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Exactly!! Cuz her shopping for him, her and their infant is her f*****g hobby! Good grief this planet is doomed

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Lyone Fein
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Well I live in a small town, so I need to drive about 20-25 minutes to get to the grocery stores every other week. Because I only go twice a month, it's a huge trip. I end up going to 3 stores usually. And yes, my trips are usually 4 hours long. I see no problem with the length of her working trip.

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The Other Guest
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

People forget that not everyone lives 5 minutes from the nearest grocery store. And if it's been a while since they've stocked up, that will increase the time it takes to shop as well. I agree, 4 hours isn't necessarily unreasonable, depending on the circumstances. Heck, I live within a 10 minute drive of multiple grocery stores, and it can still take me 2 hours or so to get everything.

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Olivia Lisbon
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The four hour grocery shopping trip seems to be dividing people. I get he needs pto too, but so does she and grocery shopping isn’t my idea of time off. But regardless of how long she was gone, he didn’t hear her yelling when she came back, so he wouldn’t have heard his child either. That’s the YTA bit. Edit: I meant he couldn’t hear the child, and so wouldn’t have been able to hear it was in trouble either. Making him an irresponsible git. Not her.

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I'mNotARoboat
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There were phone calls were he said she was fine but clearly wasn't. It sounds like he didn't check on her at all.

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TCW Sam Vimes
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why is everyone going on about the 4 hours? Seeing how that A-hole of a father couldn't even care for his daughter for 4 hours you can bet he is like this all the time. So she does all the work, AND goes shopping and ends up as the accused? Wow.

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Flare The Sexy Incubus
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Duke...my TWO parents take hours to shop. They don't go anywhere else. And he was at home.. but wasn't actually watching his daughter...she had a soiled diaper and wasn't even fed. How are going to blame the woman going to buy food for her family, and defend the guy who was SPECIFICALLY asked to watch his own child, instead decides streaming a game was FAR more important, even though FAR more popular streamers can at LEAST take p**s breaks. You're disgusting for defending that man.

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UpQuarkDownQuark
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It doesn’t matter if he *deserved* the time off to do his thing, or how long she was gone. This ultimately isn’t him vs. her. It’s about him being a responsible parent when he was alone with his child, regardless of why he was alone with his child. Once he agreed that he would take care of his daughter, and knew that this wife was leaving the house, it utterly irresponsible for him to close his door and put his headphones on. He’s so worried about his reputation with his fans, what if instead he had brought her into the room with him or had a baby monitor on the desk and said, “Hey guys. I’m watching my daughter, so I may have to go at any time.” And then when his wife is back, *then* they can argue about whether there’s time for him to do his thing.

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Alma Muminovic
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Your husband is a man-child. That’s some crazy behavior, I would of lost my s**t too. If my husband ever did that to our son, He’d come to soon regret it. Also he didn’t forget to check up on her he decided not to (which makes it extra shitty) because clearly his wife called and reminded him several times.

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1.21Gigawatts?!
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Holy c**p I never thought about that! Very good point. Become OP’s divorce lawyer with your good sight for detail!

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Kate Jones
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I know everyone is commenting on the 4 hour grocery run but I go to do 'groceries' and that means stopping at the bank, getting gas, stopping and getting something from a particular store for something I could only get there, grabbing a bite for lunch, then going to the grocery store. 3 or 4 hours can go by easily. But more than that, babies don't need to be watched every minute and they poop and pee a lot. It does sound like maybe the husband has an online addiction and is justifying it by saying it's good for his mental health. 'Needing' followers and to be online and his overdramatic reaction tells me he may take it a little too seriously and it isn't as healthy as he thinks. But people are acting like he tied the baby to a radiator and left her hungry for days. He may have very well checked her 15 minutes before and she was sleeping so he went online. If this was a pattern for him or there was evidence of abuse then okay but there isn't evidence of that really.

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Jasperina Witty
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ummmmm some errands take a few hours. He neglected his child. Divorce is butt and find a real man.

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1.21Gigawatts?!
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Also the people saying “YTA because you were on a 4 hour grocery trip how suspicious blah blah blah” forget that it’s difficult to keep track of how much food, perhaps formula, etc.. you have when you need to care for an infant. Not to mention they are looking past the husband’s neglect and saying “That’s terrible but you were on a 4 hour grocery trip AND called multiple times to check in like a responsible parent? Hmm… ETA!”

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Anthony Jones
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Lol no it's not. Make a list go shopping get what you need get out. Does not take hrs unless you are using it as me time which she was. Probably shopping for 1hr 3hrs me time. She said they both work which means neither has me time. Fine she needs some but she tried to hide it n he probably called her out so she needs online women to justify her 4hr trip and clear her conscience. Lol

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Barbora Machová
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I honestly dont even understand why people thing she is the AH. First of all grocewry shopping for 4 hours is completely possible, but my main point is HE AGREED TO TAKE CARE FOR HER, thats all, nothing else matters, if he really wanted to forget his daughter and f-ing stream on yt he could, with her in there or he could take regular breaks. Or just stream after she came back, he had the responsibility he agreed upn not only when he agreed to take care of her. AND IF HE WANTED SO MUCH THE TIME FOR STREAMING, HE COULD JUST CALL HER AND ASK THE MOTHER TO COME HOME EARLIER. i dont have kids, but i would not suggest divorce right away, more like everyone in this household gets the same regurarly, like streaming 3 times a week in the afternoon? i suggest a therapy and talking about priorities and free time.

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Micaela Morrigan
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Or don't agree to watch her. Why agree to watch the baby if you're not going to?

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Beth S
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Hell to the No you are NTA but the guy you’re with is a total AH with BS priorities not to mention a complete fuckface.

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Debbie Sanders
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I’m so tired of “mental health needs” trumping being a responsible adult and especially a parent. To those who YTA’d because god forbid she was out of the house for 4 hrs gtfoh! You are clueless if you think grocery shopping means a 5 minute drive to, 20 minutes to shop AND checkout and 5 minutes back!

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Susanne B
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sounds nice, but I use 40 min. from my local trainstation, to town. Then about 10 minuttes to go to the store, which is huge, and I usually uses some time just trying to find, what I need. If I can do that in 4 hours, it is a successful day.

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Ladytron
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't care about the time she was out grocery shopping and if it was reasonable or not. It's not about that. It's that when the other parent is away you are responsible. You can't just neglect your child just because you suddenly feel like having me-time. No matter how badly you feel that you need it you suck it up until it's possible. That's how it works to be a parent. If you feel that you need a break you COMMUNICATE that beforehand and you decide on a time when that's possible - for both parents. Never let your child get in the middle of your battles as a couple. And yes, I think 4 hrs without attending to a 7 month old, with closed doors, is too long regardless if the child is sleeping or not.

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Silre
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Regardless of how long she was gone, he is also a parent. He needs to learn how to be responsible. Baby first, then gaming.

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Martin Nwafor
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And at least she even called to check on the child, while the so called “man of the house” was streaming……

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Kusotare
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You have two children. A 7-month old. And a 420-month old. The OP should not be taken to task for being gone 4 hours. Is that a long time for grocery shopping? Perhaps. Maybe she had to do a ton of other errands and lumped them all together as "grocery shopping". Maybe she just needed a few hours to herself. She's entitled to that, and her husband should be capable of caring for his own child for four hours without her having to worry about whether he's neglecting her. She does not need to justify the length of her errands. Husband is clearly the AH and needs to sack up, get his priorities in order, and stop whining.

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Britney Anthony
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Krixl he ruined his family. Aw sounds like you have been here before and a little sour hope thing get better. It is called holding yourself accountable for your action. Bad actions have bad consequences. No sane women wants to be with someone who f***s up watching their child then can’t admit it. Oh and if you think grocery store is me time I have plenty of people who would love for you to go grocery shopping for them. Wow it really hurts when women stick up for themselves hu

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The Starsong Princess
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I bet she sounded unhinged. I’d sound unhinged too if my baby was left soiled and unfed. It doesn’t matter how long she was gone or if he needed a break too. He was in charge of the baby and he neglected her making him TA. This is marriage ending stuff.

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JazzyfromtheNati
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have 2 children, every single time I go grocery shopping it takes 2+ hours, usually 3, more when they were smaller. But, I shop 1x per month, this way I get the most for my money, and shop price per ounce. I can assure you, other than couponer's I absolutely know without a doubt I get more for my money than anyone shopping any other way. Period! Now on to this a*****e, no she couldn't wait, no he wasn't just as entitled to his time as she was to hers, as grocery shopping is not a f*****g hobby!!!!!! His stream is! 14k followers is not an income stream, your not an influencer, you're delusional, your wife should absolutely without a doubt leave you! Yes, 7mo old children do nap for 4 hours, at times, but...... She came home and yelled repeatedly for him, and had to physically track him down, and yet he still never even knew she was home...... What chance does a 7mo old have of getting his attention?? Dump the loser protect your baby!!!

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Sean Williams
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

First off, streaming is income, second your assume he was lying about checking, third you don't know when the child woke up or pooped.

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Will I Will-Ham
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Op should leave that a*****e. All that posted yta are probably his streaming audience and can't understand what being responsible means. He had his stream, the shopping was communicated and he was ok with it, 4 h isn't long for shopping who knows what she needed to get for the family. What kind of stupid, unresponsible, raving idiot leaves a baby unwatched and goes streaming? if u don't want to take responsibility for your offsprings ok leave, pay child support and everyone is fine. Op could find someone better and the idiot could start his streaming career. The incel fraction of his audience would glorify him for that.

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1.21Gigawatts?!
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Okay who downvoted this, Lisa’s comment is funny! And accurate. And against the husband not the OP.

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Kota Ball
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So...it seems like everyone saying she is TA doesn't understand how grocery shopping may work. My fiancee and I go twice a month because it's how our finances work and those trips are LONG even though we live 6 mins from a grocery store. When I was a kid it was a whole day affair because the closest grocery store we could afford closed (the others were too expensive because small town and didn't have much) so we would drive at least 20 minutes one direction and sometimes longer to get to the store. We had to strategically time our trips with funding streams as well. I went grocery shopping with a friend for a party once that lived in a smaller town than mine and it took us an hour just to GET to the store. So many layers of privilege go into thinking she is TA and excusing him. Also, the toxicity around weaponizing mental health needs is absolutely ridiculous.

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I'mNotARoboat
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A four hour nap for a seven month old is NOT normal. He said he checked on her but I think that's a lie. It didn't matter that he was streaming, his door should not have been closed.

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Roberta Bray-Enhus
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ok. He’s not an adult, he’s an over grown child.He’s selfish,shallow,and he’s not ready to parent anything or anyone,period. I wouldn’t trust him with a goldfish! Perhaps he wasn’t told that,Your kids come first! Your life is no longer your own once a baby is born. The next 18 years of your life is focused on raising a good caring little person. Everything gets put on hold,especially your ridiculous live streaming.Your job is to make sure that tiny human, get what she needs! Which is love care affection a full tummy and a clean dry bum! His or her comfort is what’s important, not your effin YouTube channel. I would have moved to my moms house as well. Let him decide what he needs more of in his life.

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Britney Anthony
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

For all the YTA when a mom says grocery store it usually means errands the other will not do so she must do. Running errands is not time off people it still doing thisng we don’t want to be doing but must if we want food on the table and other errands such as paying certain bills, car parts grocery shopping dr apt, drop off stuff and certain stores carry certain things so yes a grocery trip can be 4 hours depending on diffrplaces to shop oh and let’s not forget she was not having fun or taking time off. I bet she had to go because he refused. I save all my errands for one day to get it all done I call it errand day. Plus have you ever gone shopping on a budget? It takes a lot of time trying to do the math and figure out what is more important for a family is not easy.

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Alek Demetropoulos
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The man has a basic video game addiction, he most likely uses the stream situation to justify his Peter Pan disorder.

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Casey McAlister
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I've always wondered why people have kids when they obviously aren't ready for them. Like, if you know it's gonna interfere with your actual priorities and will become a burden for you - why? A child isn't a piece of furniture you can shove into the closet when you don't want it anymore. But I didn't understand one thing - if the baby was hungry and with a dirty diaper, why didn't she cry? That's one calm baby.

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Julian Scherner
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That manbaby needs to grow up and quick. When you are a father, your child comes first, second and third. End of story. Also, pto?? You get that during the night, while you sleep. At least while your baby is mere months old. Also also, live streaming? "Fanbase"? Someone really needs to learn the meaning of words like "profession" and "work".

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Ilonka Talbot
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's not as complicated as some want to make it. He AGREED to watch over the child. He didn't do that. She has every reason to be upset by that.

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Randy Perez
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You know, he could easily check on her every 45 minutes or so like an adult. Just tell his "fans" BRB and then be like checking on MY CHILD. "He agreed to watch her" it's his daughter too.

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Adeline Bennett
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Grocery shopping is not a "mental health break". It's called duty/chore. She's shopping for 3 people and who's to say she even lives that close to the store?

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Kaitlynnnnnn
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I enjoy going to the store....for ME it would be a mental health break from my 1 yr old as long as I'm able to take my time and not rush. I can see every other person on here is different, I'm just saying, I would enjoy it.

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Nicole Kosanke
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If he thinks doing all the family errands is a "mental health break" rather than the adult responsibility that it is, then he can take over all the grocery store runs, the couponing, the banking, etc. and see how relaxing he finds it.

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East
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

4 hour errands is pretty damn common. That's how you can tell those people given as examples are not really adults lol.

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MsLou
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I really want an update on this story. Can anyone provide an update?

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Drew H
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I checked. This is the only post for her account and it's currently locked. She didn't even comment on it.

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Monica Askew
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So NTA. Yes she may have missed that he needed me time, grocery shopping is a task not me time. He could have waited until she came back to stream. His only focus should have been his child period. He was more worried about followers than if the baby was fed and changed.

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Anna Torres
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You know what's hilarious if you're a married man and you don't go grocery shopping with your significant other they don't honestly know that we go to about five well myself I go to six different stores for different things because some things are cheaper and yes you have to drive around and deal with other people that are shopping too and so yes 4 hours is actually plausible I go shopping for three other people and three people out of the four have dietary restrictions this point it doesn't matter if it's a man or woman if you're being told to watch your child so that your significant other can go shopping because you don't feel like it or whatever his reasonings were. I don't care if you're a man I don't care if you're a woman I don't care if you're a purple spotted giraffe you don't leave your kids sitting for hours with your door closed not seeing if there needs to be a bottle you put a timer on you become an adult you become a parent.

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Amanda Charity
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Go to the grocery store for 4 hours= Which is my hobby????!!! Newsflash we hate the grocery store we just go because if we send our husband's we would be eating bologna sandwiches and DeGarno pizzas for the month! I could think of a million other things to do with said Me Time!

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Poh_tatoes
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Exactly!!! And then those same men will say "when they make grocery, I only takes a few minutes to a half hour".

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Ken knowler
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Are people defending this clearly selfish man??, what if something happened to the child and he in a Completly different room unable to hear anything.. You dont leave a baby alone for hours. You just dont and if your defending this mans me time. Then your just as f*****g selfish as this guy..

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RandomGuy
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

4 hours is nothing. The husband could've taken the baby into the room with him if he wanted to stream so he can keep an eye on her and go afk when it's feeding time or time to change diapers. Also, if that baby had died, it's automatically the husband's fault because of his ignorance and the "I forgot" bit will not save him. In fact, it's not an excuse. And he could take time off YouTube. It's not like he would lose a shitload of subscribers in a single hour just because he wasn't on. I'm willing to bet that those people saying that OP was in the wrong aren't even parents themselves and if they're not, then what do they know about parenting?

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Kimberly Wiltshire
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The people berating the mom for going shopping for 4 hours. Yo give over! Sounds to me she carries the brunt of the duties including doing 4 hours worth of shopping because husband doesnt get off his a$$ and carry his weight as an adult let alone parent. Whining about his SM fix give me a break. That is not a cry for mental health needs and self care its backwards priorities. Wth ya'll are probably SM addicts yourselves. So explain to me how you are literally legitimizing this father's physical and psychological neglect? Nope! shut the door.

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Delta Alpha
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Apparently, these "man-child enablers" have never shopped at Costco or Sam's Club.

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sweetrottenpeaches
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

One question ... how the hell could she have a child with a man like that? And it is not about gaming or streaming. It is about priorities I think. I love to play video games, and it is much more important than any kid... so l will never ever ruin my life by having any :D Doesn't she knows her own partner? So once again... Why these people have a kid?

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Ladytron
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's impossible to know how people react to being parents. Chances are that they both decided to have a child and both said they would take care of and love that child endlessly and so on. Then parenthood hits and your life is different and your relationship is not like it used to be. At all. All parenting groups are filled with stories like this. Endless fights about "me-time", dividing housework and caring for the kid/kids etc. There is a reason many people divorce after having kids, often while the kids are younger. So let's not put the blame on her for this one.

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TheCat 3
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So he thinks is stream is ruined because she exposed him so he knows what he did was wrong then, I mean how hard is it to check up on the baby every once in a while your stream isn't going to die from a 10 minute break.

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that.bitch.mae
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Dumb dumbs: Blaming the mother for taking 4 hours to grocery shop, claiming she did other potentially leisurely things Me: One person who regularly takes 2+ hours to grocery shop for about a week's worth of food when it's relatively busy Hey, maybe the mom WAS doing other things but it's not out of the realm of plausibility that she just either needed to go to multiple stores, the store(s) was packed, she was shopping for the next month or so (and for three people, one being an expensive a*s baby) or the store(s) was just a decent ways away. So yeah, the dad is the a*****e through and through. Mom is fine unless she actually was having some me time OUTSIDE of grocery shopping because no, grocery shopping is not me time for most people. It might be fun for some people but it's an errand that has to be run just like paying your car note or whatever. How hard was it for the dad to just tell his viewers that he needed to check on his child every now and then? I don't do live stuff 1/2

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that.bitch.mae
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

2/2 often but when I do, I let people know if or when I have to go AFK for a bit to check on my pets. It's not hard and most people will understand (and if he viewers didn't understand that he has a child that can't sustain itself just yet, he's better off not having them as viewers anyway).

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zer0lore
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

for the people that called her out for the shopping trip, you do realize that she could’ve gone out far, right? i live in a family of four and our shopping trips average 5-6 hours. and maybe she wanted some alone time, who knows? her husband still should’ve made sure to take care of their child instead of leaving her.

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Iam Knucks
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As usual, these stories always feel one sided. People post a story online in a way that they expect everyone to agree and support them. So you know they're leaving some details out. But as presented, social media is the a*****e. An addictive time sink used only to artificially prop up people's low self-esteem with hollow praise from strangers.

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l
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

i think a 4 hour trip is reasonable tbh if you cant figure out how to balance streaming and a child you shouldnt stream or you should tell your wife straight out that you want to stream so she should take the baby. if he had just said what he wanted to do and worked something out with her this wouldnt have happened

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gie
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This was a breakdown of communication and expectations, to jump to the conclusion and siding with one partner over the other based on a one-sided account is bias. We have the wife's account which counts for plenty, but paints him in a corner. If this is their first baby, parenting mistakes are bound to happen but going right to divorce is just an easy out. Parenthood and marriage take WORK and Patience. Therapy can work well in this case to navigate the expectations of each parent and re-evaluate the marriage, even if it leads to divorce. I don't think the dad or mom are villains in this, but 100% need to get s**t straight what each other expects from the partnership since there's a child involved. We don't even know if they are a two-income household either. My solution is they hire a babysitter for a couple of hours if they want downtime from each other or to do separate activities.

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Christopher Boyd
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is exactly what I’m thinking, and the people with the name calling…. Woosa! Chill Out!!! You only have one side of the story

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Carol Emory
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I can see a shopping trip taking four hours if you are going to multiple stores and driving a while...but why not take your daughter with you. That gives your husband his streaming time alone. Once he's done with it, then you can make him watch your daughter while you relax in your own way. I was about to say NTA...but then I remember that me and my husband would have never survived on our own raising an autistic child if we didn't give each other a break every once in a while. You get your time alone going shopping, he should have his alone time too. But why does his live streaming have to be discussed as if you think of it as a waste of time instead of a mental health break. You get your break...he deserves his too. But leaving a baby unfed and diaper full is not cool . Everyone's the A**hole here...except the 7 month old...poor baby!

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Rasheeda Shaheen
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Have you ever shop big time with a baby? Trust me you have to stop feed them change them picked them up to hold them etc... you will forget things or it becomes more stressful and you just do half of the trip. It's stressful to shop with a 7 month old. I literally can't go nowhere without my son when he was 7 months I had a nervous breakdown in the store trying to shop and take care of him. My mom had to come and get me. Than she went to the store with me the next day. She attended to my son while I focused on my shopping.

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Anna Snorrepot
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

two people who failed to communicate with each other and plan their shared responsibilities (i.e. the kid and running the household and finding time in the shared calendar for him to stream)

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The Other Guest
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

How much more communicating did he need? He is a PARENT first and foremost; his wife shouldn't have to tell him "When you are watching our child, please be sure to feed her and change her diaper." If he absolutely had to livestream at that time, then he should have brought the baby into the room with him & taken care of her as needed.

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Maggie Hood
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

For the people who are saying ETA, the mom was going grocery shopping for 4 hours, which is a long time but she was also constantly checking in on him and the baby to make sure everything was okay. They could live far from the grocery store, she could've had a lot of stuff to get, or the store could've been really packed and slow. She also could've gone to multiple stores. Also, grocery shopping and running errands is not "taking a mental health break". Its work. She was out working while the husband was at home having fun. There is no excuse for leaving the baby unattended for the sake of streaming. At least have the baby in the same room so you can keep an eye on her. It baffles me that people are blaming the mom at all.

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Audry Camille
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

For those asking about the shopping trip: I've done 4 hr grocery runs. It's called multiple stores. She probably had other errands to run too (post office, hardware store, pet store etc). Those trips are exhausting, but sometimes necessary.

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Bedlamite
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Reminds me of an incident that happened with my grandson when he was 18 months old. My daughter had made him something to eat, told husband, who was playing a video game, that she was going to the gym and left for an hour or so. When she got home, hubby was still playing, and she starts looking around, questioning where the baby was. She eventually found him in the kitchen laying on the floor. Apparently he hadn't wanted to eat the dinner she made and instead wanted a peanut butter sandwich, which his dad wouldn't make for him, instead decided to let him cry it out on the kitchen floor. Because obviously gaming is WAY more important than soothing your child. I mean, it would probably take half a minute to make a sandwich for your kid. Or maybe even try to get him to eat what was made for him. POS.

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Sarah Bell
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He doesn't miss his daughter. He is an unfit parent and do not let your daughter be around him unsupervised until she can fend for herself . It's not like he forgot she was there (not excusable either ) he knew she was the there and purposely neglected her to stream. His behavior was ...oh s**t I'm so sorry ....it qas oh s**t now I'm never going to be a professional streamer . Maybe wr van make his dream cone true by making the video of you tearing him a new a*s . Get a copy of the video and keep it for documentation if he can . Leave him and stay gone and use this for an example of why you need sole custody. Do not let him get partial or shared custody until she can fend for herself and tell you what's going on and able to contact you if she needs an adult .

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Mikey Kliss
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

ESH would be my answer as well. I'm not a streamer but I do play games when I can and It's my primary hobby but things change when you have kids and that's something both partners need to work on. Plus a 4 hour nap is NOT good for a 7 month old. Should be a few 2 hour naps

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that.bitch.mae
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Okay if the 4 hour nap wasn't good, the husband should've checked on the baby. How is it ESH?

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Penny Lost
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The dude is 35 years old. Thirty-five, for f-s sake! "Ohh, but the poor, poor man wanted to stream, he felt neglected!!111 And it's so unfair! You were just out there, enjoying yourself, having the time of your life shopping for groceries, you selfish hag!!11" Are you kidding me?! Have I mentioned that the dude is THIRTY-FIVE YEARS OLD?? Arrrgh!!

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Brenda
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I regularly shop several grocery stores to save money. Kroger, HEB, Randall's, Fiesta, & El Rancho.I also go to Walmart, Walgreens, CVS, Dollar Tree, Dollar General, Family Dollar and other local places. Some days I'm done in 2-3 hours. Other days I might be out 5-6 hours. Things are tight these days so you have to buy on sale. Different stores have different sales each week. Plus there are the loyalty programs, which take time, thought and planning. 5 grocery stores and 6 others I hit EVERY WEEK, even just to look for clearance items. Just because you don't take that long doesn't mean others don't.

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Robert Hutton
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm a divorced father w/ 1 minor child (14 yr old son) & nothing & on this Earth is more important to me than him. I've turned down job offers that would have doubled my wages because it would cause me to be far away from my child. So I work for less $ & stay here to be near him & have never regretted that decision. That "dad" is a pathetic excuse of a father & a self-absorbed, negligent parent who seems to have already made the decision about what is most important to him & it's not his daughter. He has laid the ground work for his daughter to resent him & want nothing to do with him later in life. The mother has serious issues as well & seems to only care about herself & ensuring that the dad does his parenting job while she has plenty of "me time". Both are hurting their daughter & on the fast track to extramarital affairs, divorce, & causing their daughter lots of emotional pain. They should have waited to have children until they had both emotionally become adults.

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Rachel Page
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What if mom had the dad do the groceries instead of him getting to stream for 4 hours while she stayed at home with baby and changed her once and fed her once, then mom could have taken a nap or called friends went on the computer watched a movie, kinda sucks she instead went out during a time when covid and gun violence is high, and took care of her spouse and child’s food and household grocery needs, but mom is totally getting the best break ever, then let’s not forget now she came home to change another diaper and got yelled at by her spouse after she lectured him about the baby’s care. God forbid she ever expect anything from anyone who is over 18. She should raise the husband and child and never take care of herself people wonder why women snap and end up committing post Partum suicide and infant death. Good job guys for shaming mom & blaming her for the males needs not being met & condemning her for some delusional reason you all think was a hobby but an actuality chores are work

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Elissa H
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I agree she should not be shamed at all! But, I don't think condemning him is okay either. I think she was wrong to not let him stream and he was definitely wrong for being neglectful. But it is hard with a new baby for both parents, so my answer is that clearly they both need some help. They should communicate better so they can both have their needs met (and obviously the child's).

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Maria Adcock
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What? Why is this up for discussion? Taking care of your child is not a “favor”for the mother, it is your responsibility as a parent. If you’re unable to fulfill that duty, you need to seek professional assistance cause that’s what you signed up for that when you conceived a child and need to be prepared at all times. Parenting does not stop for a job, internet blogging or usage, phone posting or other such activities. The word for this is neglect and if this is what is occurring at such an early start, both parents need to seek professional counseling to learn how to manage the relationship and parenting responsibilities. This is not a dig at the mother, but rather a wake up call and an urging for the benefit of the child.

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Flare The Sexy Incubus
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My two parents take hours to shop, what are these people smoking? She's one woman, of COURSE it's gonna take a while..yet y'all are gonna complain while he sat his a*s for a ALSO 4 HOUR "break" and OBVIOUSLY didn't check on his OWN BABY ONCE. His baby was hungry, and in a soiled diaper after the mom SPECIFICALLY told him to watch her and KEPT CALLING TO MAKE SURE HE WAS, BUT HE LITERALLY LIED TO HER, IN THE WORST WAY POSSIBLE. He lied about neglecting his child for 4 hours, disgusting. Also I watch many FAR more popular streamers, and they take pee or poo breaks MULTIPLE times..so..was his daughter starving and wallowing in her dirty diaper less important than a p**s break??? Anyone who defends that man or is against the woman in any way disgusts me. She WAS doing her part! He was ALLOWED to stream, you can stream, AND TAKE CARE OF YOUR CHILLLLDDD!!!

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Billie Cox
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Start by doing a live stream where you apologize for the scene, but inform them he left your baby in a dirty diaper with no food while he was was supposed to be watching the baby. Anton Petrov has a You Tube channel with a great deal more followers. Recently he lost an infant and he let his followers know he would not be adding new content because he and his wife needed to heal. Your husband is just another one of those budding narcissists whose ego is fed by their You Tube antics. He left a baby, his baby, lie hungry and uncomfortable because he wanted to do something all about him. I think you should rethink this. He is never going to be a parent, because then he can no longer indulge himself. Talk to a lawyer and get his advice. Now you know how far he will go to indulge himself and if you take him back and something else happens, it will be on you as well. Your kid comes first now. I am sorry, but your child has only you to count on and your situation will not get better.

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Piper Ryder
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Okay like - yeah sure he needs a mental health break. As someone who often uses video games as an escape and gets so sucked into it I don't realize what's going on I get that. But HE SAID HE WOULD WATCH THE BABY! That's the point! He didn't protest watching her, he didn't say "Hey, could you do this a different time?", He said clearly that he was okay with watching her. Also as someone who gets extremely tunnel-visioned when I play my video games I NEVER play them when I know I have something important that requires immediate and/or continuous attention, because I know I'll forget and zone out. Which is what he should've done. Or else taken advantage of the fact that his wife gave him reminders and go check on her as it came up. If his viewers have a problem with him taking a minute to check on her that's on them.

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Edwin Titus
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sorry that's just poor judgement and skills management. He could have easily put the baby close to him so he can keep an eye or even have a video monitor close to him and watch. The guy stream so no excuse he knows how camera works.Even there he could have done a very light stream with his phone so it's easy to move around. Or just stream another day.

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Eric Elliott
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She was at the grocery store, which, for me, is never a stress-free endeavor. That is not personal time at all. That is done with thought for the family. On top of that, she couldn't even focus entirely on shopping be ause he has given her the impression that she needs to check and make sure that he's doing the most basic tasks of parenting. As a father myself, his guy is a joke of a father. Nothing fills me with more anger toward society than watching other people "parent." So many people treat is as babysitting and it's pathetic. This baby deserves better. I hope his YouTube channel tanks. Hopefully he straightens himself out and starts to understand priorities. Personal time is important, but there is a time for it.

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Drew H
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So something isn't adding up here. First off, she called multiple times and talked to him so I don't think he was as inattentive as she claims because there's no way he would have noticed a phone call if that was the case. Second, the timing of her shopping trip. According to her, he streams weekly. There's not way she wouldn't know when he was planning to do it. From experience, the whole house gets a dose a baby brain there bottle she prepared was untouched but if this is a formula baby there's no reason he couldn't have forgotten about it and prepared a new one if it's pumped then you already know multiples were ready to go. PPD/PPP warning signs. But the biggest red flag is this is a streamer with a 14k audience. Somebody would have clipped that and made him infamous by now.

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Kimberly Wiltshire
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Guy is trash. Basically she has a grumpy teenager and a baby to raise. Get out now if you can.

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sophie burningham
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

To all those harassing the Mum for her shopping trip, it doesn't excuse the neglect she found when she came back and I worry about your own children. Also, going out to buy food for the family does not count as alone time. To the article focusing on communication, she literally tried to help him find the time to stream and work with him for this, and that wasn't good enough for him. She tried. Also, 4 hours to shop depends on factors: A) Where she lives and how she gets to the shop B) How big of a shop it is C) If she is going to multiple shops. At the end of the day, he was the parent in charge of that baby during that time period, and he neglected the baby and was called out live. I am surprised he's even allowed near the baby with how big a safeguarding issue that is. Headphones on, inability to hear the baby for 4 hours straight, while the baby is left. A LOT could have also happened such as a cot death too.

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Chonky
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Shopping for groceries is not "me time". It is a horrible chore. You have to think about the meals for the week, budget, prep time, food preferences and she is most likely exhausted from looking after the baby. Even if the shop is near they are huge and busy. Other people can slow you down, thinking about what to get can slow you down, queuing at the check out can slow you down, putting stuff in the truck etc. etc. 4 hours is not unreasonable at all. Clearly, men have never planned breakfast lunch and dinner for 2 people on a budget. He didn't hear her shouting, he wouldn't have heard the baby if she was screaming. This sounds like an ongoing issue between them that came to a head with him being very immature and prioritising his streaming and her feeling he is not doing enough to help her with the baby. They need counseling.

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Leesa DeAndrea
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think they are both wrong. Her for screaming at him while he was live streaming. Him for neglecting his baby & lying about it. They could probably use some family counseling.

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CrisLei Fan
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A 4 hour grocery trip is not necessarily unreasonable and shouldn't be classified as "personal" time. Taking a 7 month old grocery shopping on a lengthy trip is just not practical. I think somewhere in the post she mentioned them planning a time in their schedule when he could do his live stream. He could have hyped it on his channel as an upcoming thing. Instead it seems like he tried to do something sneaky behind her back, lying when he knew she was concerned. We as parents all need mental health breaks, but our children cannot be ignored in that. Heck, I have watched GOT live streams with dogs acting crazy in the background...a baby would be no biggie. Either way both parties need to communicate better for the sake of their daughter.

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DiaMedia
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A 4 hour shopping is really possible, and one solution i can suggest to the OP, check his live stream and see if he really checked on your daughter... That is if he didn't deleted it.. bye

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Junebugjump!
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Man, this hits home. My ex-husband never solo parented our child. This was an ongoing issue which led to divorce. Men need to step up or women need to live in collectives without them. My husband needed things from 4 different stores — one of them Costco. When I did the shopping, it could take 4 hours. He never did the shopping, but would tick things off an Excel spreadsheet. He knew where I was going, but would expect me to take my son. This went on for decades. I finally told him he had to take on the shopping. Mind you, I had a career, too. All my needs were marginalized while he went to work or played video games. If this is your life: run now. Let them do all the work and parenting full time, 50% of the time. At least you get your life back. I wish I’d liberated myself sooner.

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Stephen Scott
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

YATA! Too many people are focused on what he did wrong for this to have happpened seals volumes that this man is very unhappy with his life. And in my opinion should seek counseling and therapy. Soiled diapers and a bottle that he probably fed the kid all of it then refilled just in case. You failed as a wife. A real wife would have cleaned up and spoken to him or simply left the house for a few days. Till he got to his senses. You’re secretly happy and unapologetic to his needs trumping the kid and yours over his. I get the feeling that he loves his family yet feels like he’s unappreciated and being looked over by everyone in his life. So next time you come on social media playing the im a woman pity party card. Don’t! You further embarrass him by going to social media the want place he felt like he could go too because let’s face it you…YOU ARENT THERE AND NEVER WERE FOR HIM!

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Dollie Nicholls
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was surprised to read that her grocery trip took 4 hrs. He was probably thinking... baby's asleep and all good, I can do some streaming, not expecting mom to be gone that long. Also, clearly his need for mental health time wasn't veing met. I believe she was ramping up her anger before getting there since she kept texting and calling and didn't believe what he said. They are both humans, new parents, and trying to balance life. It's hard.

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Margaret Weaver
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What on EARTH was this poor woman thinking, breeding with such a developmentally stunted manchild?! Castrate and evict, please. If you carry to term, caring for the child is not a matter of convenience, choice, or even freedom. BOTH OF YOU brought it into this world. You can no more tie a baby to a tree in a forest and abandon it when it's not convenient anymore, than you could do a puppy that's grown into a huge dog, or a teacup piglet that grew into a hog three times your weight. Honestly parents that complain their child is inconvenient make me SO irate, but then to see that last YTA response from that "werewolf" character, was just too much. "His time to stream" indeed... If any son of mine did that I'd drive down and throw him out of his own house THAT SAME DAY. How DARE this infantile sack of.... I think I'll go take a walk or something, cool off a bit. Enough internet for one day. That poor woman's mother in law must be MORTIFIED.

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Amber Suttle
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What an interesting conversation. A four hour shopping trip is not Me time, it is buying food, toiletries, household items. I have two kids and shopping take a me four hours because I don't shop weekly, I shop monthly. My husband is a gamer, and plays video games while watching kids, but they are in the same room as him. Personally, he should have taken a break to check on her and when she woke, he should have changed her and brought her into his office. People love children. My girls watch a lot of YouTube where the parents incorporated their children into the streams. It probably could have boosted his channel by having her with him

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Julie Hoefer
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

while I do agree that 4 hours is a bit much- my guess is the mom knew her man was sketchy, hence the public post.... HEY MOM- you already know this guy is lacking in more ways then 'DAD'ing.....stop looking for stranger sympathy and pack your things....take your daughter and yourself, and start over. Or wait it out and ask us more advice when your life is gone and your 7 month old suddenly turns 15 and is stuck in the same common sense ignorance you live in.....

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Allison Kessel
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I dont understand how shopping trip could be called taking a break. I don't have a baby an hate shopping. Not to mention people saying 4 hours is crazy, not really. If theres food allergies or specifics needed sometimes you cant get them all at one store. From my personal experience I was looking for one thing for dinner (i have many allergies an just can't stomach some food) an it took 4 different store to find. Not to mention he wasn't watching HIS child. He helped create the baby, hes responsible to help watch her.

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Fernanda Abreu
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This idiot will soon stop whining because his wife's scene is something everybody would appreciate witnessing on a livestream lol Most likely his channel will boost in subscribers. Haven't you guys noticed that trash is what gets people coming nowadays?

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Ms A
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As a woman that was once a WoW “widow”, I can certainly feel for this woman. Also, as someone that’s been through a “marriage” with a “man” with an online addiction, it won’t change unless HE wants to change. 20 years later, my ex is on his 3rd marriage and still plays online games for hours at a time. His only child (our daughter) is 19 and she won’t have anything to do with him… he’s selfish and childish. And yes, it CAN in fact take 4 hours to run errands/grocery shop. If you have a stack of coupons… reading details of each coupon to make sure you’re going to get said savings takes time. Not only that, but there’s recently been a formula shortage… how long did it take her to find formula? To me, going to a pharmacy to get some necessities, then to a large grocery store (think Kroger, Walmart, etc.) where it’s almost always busy af, will take a lot of time, period. One possible solution to long grocery trips though is online ordering for pick-up, less stressful.

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Derek Jones
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Derek Jones. What I fail to understand is all the Liberal muppets supporting the poor woman's ungrateful drip of a husband. They must all be in the same club, "tick turds United" 24 hours in a day take off 8 hours for sleep that's 16 hours to contact his fans! So his wife went shopping for 4 hours (how many shops did she need to visit to get food for the ahole? You can guarantee he can't unstick his backside from his chair, does she also have to change his diaper I wonder? Give him 9 lace holes my girl, he doesn't deserve you. And give a finger to his idiot supporters they do deserve him as chairman of the "tick turd United association ".

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Carl Holleman
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I find it very concerning that so many people fancy themselves "Influencers" or "Streamers"...It fills a weird void that people have..they enjoy being "worshipped" and followed. Very strange. Really life trumps any online presence. If it's his "job" then it should be done when and if the child is being cared for. The internet has doomed us.

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Kimberly Quinn
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is not a father. This is a sperm donner. Time to kick him to the curb.

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Billy godd
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Both parents neglected her. Maybe dad had checked & thought she was fine. Maybe he has a mental/emotional condition we don't know about. The mother should be less concerned with who's right & make it right for the baby. What already occurred doesn't matter, it's how are you going to make it better going forward? Figure out a way to not be gone half the day when you shop. Make it two shorter trips instead of one or have some of it delivered. It sounds like neither parent is supportive of each other. NEVER tear down your partner. The child will absolutely internalize it that they are the problem & it can create lifelong damage to their psyche & self-worth. Mom holds all the power in this situation. She can choose to hold her family together & make her spouse feel better about himself or she can tear him down & the family apart, damaging the child in process.

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Billy godd
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Both parents neglected her. Maybe dad had checked & thought she was fine. Maybe he has a mental/emotional condition we don't know about. The mother should be less concerned with who's right & make it right for the baby. What already occurred doesn't matter, it's how are you going to make it better going forward? Figure out a way to not be gone half the day when you shop. Make it two shorter trips instead of one or have some of it delivered. It sounds like neither parent is supportive of each other. NEVER tear down your partner. The child will absolutely internalize it as they are the problem & it can create lifelong damage to their psyche & self-worth. Mom holds all the power in this situation. She can choose to hold her family together & make her spouse feel better about himself or she can tear him down & the family apart, damaging the child in process.

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Cj Mk
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wow, divorce is so easy for the flimsiest of issues, for some people, it seems. No wonder there are very wealthy legal firms.

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Lynn H
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I had to run errands today and it took me well over 4 hours. And I still didn't get to the grocery store. I had my kid with me too. I don't understand how anyone would think she's the a*****e. The dad needs to take care of his kid. Or he should do the grocery shopping. Streaming is not how you fix mental health. Therapy is. If he's that miserable being in his RL then he definitely needs help.

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Mark Laprise
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's really sad how weak and selfish people have become; hiding behind "mental health" or "discrimination" or "sexism", etc. These are ALL important, valid issues that need to be addressed but NOT abused and used to excuse pathetic selfish behavior.

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Amy Pontious
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Op please get away from little boy,he prefers to act like a child! This is a BIG ABUSE! If I was a friend or family and I found out about this I would call child services. Your husband is not going to change so for the safety of your child and yourself get away from him!

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Joshua Neal
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

First, there's a lack of information here. I'd need to know how long his daughter was awake for, before I'd shout abuse. I've seen mothers n fathers alike, doing their best, not meet the lofty standards of outside perspectives. I find it far more likely that the child is not neglected than is neglected. Most parents DONT neglect their kids. I'm a father. I have a daughter. Seeing sadness in her eyes shatters my heart. I would dare say this man feels the same. So let's be reasonable. Love doesn't mean he isn't capable of being selfish. Her either. Sounds like he tried squeezing some mental health time in, whe his daughter was asleep. I highly doubt she was long awake, hungry, or soiled. It also sounds like her extended shopping time may have been a similar attempt to squeeze a tiny bit of mental health out of a time otherwise meant for responsibility. He sounds immature and whiny. She sounds controlling and jealous. Their relationship is the problem. They're both probably good parents.

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Eaton Kuntz
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She's got issues. Husband sounds like a great dad. I'm sure he's proud of the baby on his stream, especially if he's on there to socialize. A guy like that wouldn't ignore his baby. Also, she sounds mad cuz he didn't do exactly what she said. OP doesn't say whether the baby actually needed attention. Just that he was streaming while the baby napped. And we're supposed to assume he neglected the baby while she was a really hard-working parent. I was raised by a mother like that. Cleverly ignoring facts, just to look like the victim and get pity.

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Creature Cargeaux
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I live 45 minutes from the nearest grocery store. I can't even go get eggs without it atleast taking 2.5 hours in traffic. Like.... wtf. It's not that insane. Not everyone lives in a big city or even suburbs

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Julie Froehling
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I cant believe how many folks are dragging this poor dad! He would have come if baby cried or was in distress. Babies do wake up with overfull diapers and just hang out looking around the room chillin in their cribs for a while. This is glorious bonus time for parents to wrap up what they are doing! She blew up her marriage and his rep in a public forum and took his daughter away from him over 1 single soggy diaper. She seems like she was stressed in that moment but really needs to apologize to dad so they can go back to practicing how to be parents. Newborns are tough to navigate!

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Poh_tatoes
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Do you really think he'd hear the baby crying if apparently he didn't even hear his wife come home despite her yelling at him?

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Julie Froehling
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I cant believe how many folks are dragging this poor dad! He would have come if baby cried or was in distress. Babies do wake up with overfull diapers and just hang out looking around the room chillin in their cribs for a while. This is glorious bonus time for parents to wrap up what they were doing! "Completely unattended" seems an inappropriate description of what she found. She blew up her marriage and his rep in a public forum and took his daughter away from him over 1 single soggy diaper. She seems like she was stressed in that moment but really needs to apologize to dad so they can go back to practicing how to be parents. Newborns are tough to navigate!

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Gail Lynn
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She's NTA!! She probably did just more than grocery shopping. She might have had to stop at the bank, post office, pharmacy, etc. She probably had a whole list of errands & such to do... I know for my hubby & I to get groceries...it's a 40 minute drive one way to a decent shopping place. So we add in all the other errands we need to get done. He can't care for HIS BABY for 4 hours? He couldn't change her, feed her & keep her occupied with him? Maybe share her (not showing her face necessarily) with his followers? This would probably make him "more human"/approachable. AND HE LIED TO HIS WIFE!! ABOUT THEIR CHILD'S WELL-BEING!!! UNACCEPTABLE!!! He is TA.....

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courtney cook
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I can completely relate to how she feels, me and my ex have a child together and I left him for very similar reasons. I would work on the weekends when he was off, I had to leave work on multiple occasions due to the fact that he wouldn't be answering me at 2-3 in the afternoon, or have a family member or friend check on him & her to only find that he is passed out fast asleep on the couch and she still has the same diaper on from early that morning, as well as she got older and able to move around my brother went by my house to find my daughter going through the upstairs closet while he was asleep. I completely understand why she is upset and until you have it happen to you, you will never understand. I couldn't even go grocery shopping for an HR half before he would fall asleep. End of story I left 3 years ago.

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Annie Steele
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Does he get paid? If not, disconnect the internet and wifi, tell him he doesn't need his ego stroked by 14,000. Strangers when he is neglecting his wife and child.

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kallie barrett
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I fear for this child. I think OP married a big one, and she herself is sketchy if she can leave for 4 hours and only call to check in when she likely knows what isn't going on at home.

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Kimberly Anderson
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ok, first of all who goes to the grocery store and stays there for 4 hours, unless you going from grocer to grocer. Secondly, you should have a better schedule because of the baby. Most, I said most men are not reliable when it comes to the needs of children being met fully, especially if they have something going on(the man). Yes you were very wrong because I am pretty sure that you did not just find out that day that your husband was unreliable. If he is that unreliable and she was supposedly asleep, I can only imagine when she is awake and demanding her needs be taken care of. I don't agree with either of you. I don't care what is going on or needs to be done, baby is first priority. Always.

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Logan Johnson
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Honestly with only the information given that OP is TA in the situation, and obviously left out details so that she would have others think the same. The amount of jumping to conclusions with what little information there is honestly astounds me. They didn't specify how long he was streaming, when the last time she called was, how long it normally takes to shop. IF the father was actually streaming the entire 4 hours he's TA easily. If it was longer than the last phone call? He lied and is TA sure. If it was less than 30 minutes then he wasn't. We can make every scenario in the world we want to fit our situations, but the fact that critical information was left out should say more than most people can read. This sounds more along the lines of bashing somebody's hobbies and coping mechanisms than a father being neglectful to their child. Because if we want to go the the extreme of the father being neglectful then its only fair to give him the benefit of the doubt with this info.

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Antoine Jones
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The trick is not to have a child if you don't wanna take care of it. Not hard. I wouldn't wanna take care of a child either, which is why I have not and will not be getting anyone pregnant. Like really, its not that hard.

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Lu Jackson Mayer
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

How many people do not actually run more than one errand at multiple stores? Why is this a foreign concept? Four hours at Target? Yes it has happened.

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Lynn Marie O'Connor
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What's next he's gonna forget he brings her to an errand or daycare,leave her in the car to die a horrible heat wave death. ? He needs to go to 'addiction' councelling. They have it for those addicted to games, social media platforms. This is neglect.

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Rachel Page
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Regardless of the situation leaving a child in a poopy diaper leads to uti. My daughter got hospitalized and very sick as an infant due to her not being changed immediately, the nurses and doctors gave me and my spouse a whole lot of info about utis they are actually pretty bad when it comes to stool going into the urethra, it’s so painful for the little ones. Luckily it sounds like the 7 month old was okay. But saying it’s okay to leave a child soiled for hours I guarantee you if you talk to child services or a pediatrician they may look at you crazy or schedule a meeting health risks are never acceptable for children it’s a must to do our best accidents happen but I wouldn’t encourage a habit of hours of leaving your child without food and changed diaper. I also have 10 years of child care experience, and my child had a catheter put on her while she screamed in pain because she was lethargic and not eating and had a fever from uti, & changed her every 30 mins, prior. So 4 hrs? Really.

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Plucky Hero
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wanted to flag issues getting obscured by length of grocery shopping. I am going to assume this is in USA due to term grocery shopping used. I am concerned that both or either parent might be struggling with emotional problems. Seems communication and team work has broken down at very least probably due to being overwhelmed by having a new child. Could be gas lighting or unsupported post natal depression / similar issue going on both are serious can huge impact on mother or child. Guy could be a good or bad guy though the are going to be similar situations where the will be good / bad guys. So great calling out or questioning worrying behaviour. Though important guys get emotional and mental care suicide is big killer of guys under 50. These situations would be helped by support network assisting and giving respite sounds like they might not getting a lot of outside help. Other countries have support nurses / maternity leave that can protect against parents getting overwhelmed , etc.

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Mae Peterson
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is exactly what they make baby monitors for and if he had been using one I don't think she would have flipped out. On top of that it can realistically take 4 hours to get groceries even with a list. All stores don't have the same layout or carry the same product. Say that her regular store was out of something they needed (ie diapers in right size for a child that can only use the one brand) so she needed to go to a different store that she doesn't know well. Heaven forbid that the closest store that had them in stock was more than 30 minutes away. I have to go to stores 30+ minutes out of the way because the closest stores don't have a product that we use name brand and off brand. He said he was going to watch his child, if he didn't want to he should have asked her to take the kid with her. He is 100% the AH for that reason alone. She doesn't mention a baby monitor at all and I will be looking on redit for this one but I don't believe they had one because it wasn't mentioned.

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Raghib Abdul-Shakoor
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There is a time and place for everything, taking care of his infant daughter was top priority than live streaming, his wife’s anger was completely justified, nothing else matters period, his actions were extremely irresponsible and neglectful.

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Jack Wolf
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Neither of these turds should have children. All of this sounds like two immature individuals who try to hang responsibly on each other. Grow up.

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Martin Nwafor
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No matter how y’all stress that she was on a 4hr grocery run, the man is still at fault because at least she was calling to know if the child is okay, that man is just a lazy person, it wouldn’t take you max 30mins to change and feed a baby. But he couldn’t do it instead he lied that the baby was okay, whenever the wife called. If you can’t see that the man is wrong, that’s on you and your mentality.

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Linda Santiago
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Notice all the comments talk about how long the wife was gone. Dude clearly neglected his child. How does this fall back on her ? Wtf

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Neelie Oliver
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Everyone saying "4 hour grocery shopping is suspicious" obviously has not grocery shopped in their LIFE. I've been at the grocery store for upwards of 5-6 hrs before. If one store doesn't have what you need you have to find alternatives. Specific stores running sales. Refilling gas. And she's got a 7 mo old so yeah, diapers and other baby supplies are definitely going to factor in too. Plus having to find a place that sells formula. And loading it all into the car by yourself takes ages.

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Swear Wolfe
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Honestly the whole thing is f*****g stupid. Everyone should be setting up a schedule after the baby is born so mom and dad both can have their alone time for their mental health. It's extremely important that they both use the brains they were given and work together or the relationship is already over.

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Van Culpepper
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'd like to know if this was an isolated event? Accidents happen. And any of you moms out there who want to act like you never forget or procrastinate changing a diaper or feeding your child .....please. Real life issues here. Goes beyond a one sided estrogen diatribe on a guy who probably is as stressed as she is and is a good dad most of the time. Act like you care about your man.

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Christopher Boyd
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I see a lot of division along gender lines here, not all, BUT A LOT, I would like to hear HIS side of the story before I go making any assumptions. Some of you just gonna take her word for it and call do everything but a child of God. I don’t care how much you have in common with her plight, you ought to get both sides. Perhaps the truth will lie in between both of their stories. Just crazy how some of you are quick to pick a side… BTW I gotta bridge in Brooklyn I wanna sell if you’re that quick to believe…

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Rasheeda Shaheen
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

How is her shopping a mental health break, if she was having one than she wouldn't have called and checked up on the baby. What that mean is she still was being a parent to her baby even outside of the house the baby was on her mind. Having a mental health break is clearing your mind of all issues. I would love to have one haven't had one for over 20 years now.

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Anthony Jones
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why is not one idiot pointing out while she's at work he watches her and not once did she have this issue before. She's got a guilty conscience and is making him the bad guy. Women and logic do not go hand in hand

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Rasheeda Shaheen
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Everyone who wants to attack her wants to say she is overreacting. How? You should always have a baby close to you. Babies are very quick all it took was a minute. I am sure mom knows her baby. She knows how long the Baby naps and when the Baby eat. At 7 months you should know your baby's schedule. He probably never helps her out.

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Rasheeda Shaheen
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Shopping is not a mental health thing. When I go shopping I am usually gone for a good amount of hours. Stressing trying to budget and make sure I have everything we need. When I get home from shopping I am whipe out and just want to climb in bed and go to sleep. His response to her about what was more important tells it all. His you tube page is more important. Get over yourself grow up I am sure she is going through way more stress than he is I am sure she needs to find a group of mom's for support and mental health support. If you don't understand what being pregnant does to you even after giving birth than you will not understand where she is coming from. Husband's needs to grow up stop down playing the hell a woman goes through just to have a baby. He should make sure she is okay and the baby. He want a mental health break get a therapist. What he is going through is no where near where she is going through. Too many babies or getting injure or even dying because dad wants to

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Rasheeda Shaheen
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Be on social media. If you don't want kids and want your mental health days don't have sex period. The world of social media is leading to more neglect from a parent with a child. People like him treats a child like it's a doll baby or a puppy nice to show off and look at. She was so in the right.

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Rasheeda Shaheen
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Understand this people you can tell if the a baby just woke up or have been up and if he didn't hear his wife calling him he wouldn't hear the baby crying if she would have a woke up. Rather or not if the baby woke up means nothing. You should never leave a baby in a room by their self and do something that takes your attention off of them. Anything could have a happen. Maybe God gave her that feeling to get home before something did happen. How about wait until the wife got home and go into the office and do your live. O yeah for all you retards you can tell if a baby just went to the bathroom or been wet for a while. Especially on a little girl. What 7 month old do you know stays a sleep that long without eating or being fed. NOT once did he state he did check on her he was just mad because she made him look like an a** in front of people. I am sure she has other reasons to be snapping. Maybe eveytime she needs him to help with the baby he is crying about his schedule and his wan

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Rasheeda Shaheen
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Reality when it comes to a baby get off the internet until you are no longer the only adult in the house. I am sure she don't get to have a break.

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Adrienne McMillan
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Listen. Doing household errands like grocery shopping, alone or not, is not a break!! This mom wasn't on a nice break at all. I grocery shop long too so 4 hours is understandable to me. Especially if you consider traffic, the distance, multiple stores with multiple lines, or even one store (lines have been so long since the pandemic hit.) Moms, all parents, deserve real breaks and running errands isn't that. The husband was neglectful to not even check on the baby for hours. A diaper change takes no time at all, less than 5 minutes. There is no excuse to ignore her hunger either. Doesn't seem like she was crying from hunger when the mom got home but he wouldn't know that since it seems he wasn't checking on her. He should have been responsible enough to care for his child and stream, or wait until they fit a session into their schedule. I would be so upset with him, I would be considering never going back. He can't be trusted. Forgot my foot!

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Alexandra Stevens
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Those of you that are giving this mother c**p for being at the store for 4 hours. 1. Have you ever been to a Costco in the middle of the day? 2. They have an infant….odds are she had to go to MULTIPLE stores to get everything needed for the family. It’s not exactly easy to find time to shop with an infant, even with both parents involved. 3. Depending on where they live, the closest stores could be a twenty minute to a half hour drive away. Just the trip there and back can total up to an hour 4. The mother trusted the father to do the BARE NECESSITIES of parenting which is to make sure the baby’s diaper is changed and fed…..as a streamer, my families needs will always come first. Always. But no you all are worried about a 4 hour grocery shopping spree

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Rojudrws
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Hes a disgusting person and his "mental health" is not an excuse to neglect his child. Hes the AH.

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Ikms Teehee
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think The husband is TA because he could have at least waited for when the wife got back home to live stream. And not when there was no one else to take care of the baby except him.

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Zan Xolo
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Stop trying to have your husband act as a second subordinate mom. Support their success and betterment as you raise your children. That is your natural role as a woman. You chose to hen peck your husband to death thus creating the situation that provided you the opportunity to attack and destroy his work. You created this damage. It is 100 percent on you. Now your withholding your daughter as punishment. What a weak self centred spirit you are. You are the problem. Think deeply on this truth and become a better wife, mother, human.

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Zan Xolo
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sounds like she is a control freak who has no respect for her husband and used the situation with the child to attack and destroy something that her husband valued. This is what happens when woman expect men to emasculate themselves by becoming a second subordinate mom. Take care of your child. Support your man’s success and betterment. This woman’s arrogance and shirking of her motherly responsibility is shockingly apparent.

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JoElla Kleinhesselink
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"going to town" to grocery shop is a 45 minute trip (I live in a rural area) that's an hour and a half right there gone. 2.5 hours to do the actual shopping isn't crazy, especially if it is a long trip then you don't go as often and need to stock up more. Also, her grocery shopping is a chore, not leisure. She was doing it for the entire family and it's a necessary action. That is not what is wrong here. He's a terrible parent for not watching over the child, I hope he atleast had a baby monitor in view... But at the same time, I don't think that finding an hour to live stream should be that difficult. She should have found some time in the evening to look after the child while he live stream should have been easy. P.s., the people who are saying she should of brought the child with her are living in the 1950s. Raising a child is the responsibility of both parents. Him watching a child for a few hours is not a hardship on his end, and if he feels it is then you have a bigger problem.

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Rebecca Kinney-Strange
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

First, they made the agreement of looking at their schedule to make sure he had time to stream live. Second, as stated by many others, why so long for groceries? Third, also as many others pointed out, you don't know when the kid woke up. At that age, if hungry, they'd be crying. However, I don't know if he could've heard it from where he was in the house. I do think that she could have waited for him to mute the mic before going off on him while he was live. I wouldn't have done that regardless. In the end, I think they both are at fault for different reasons and need to be able to schedule his streaming time and her errands accordingly so that this does not happen again. Take it as a learning experience and go from there. They're both at fault for different reasons when you get down to it. Since this is the first kid, it's certainly okay to make mistakes. The child wasn't harmed by this. All that got hurt was her feelings, her trust and confidence in him, his feelings & pride.

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David O.P.
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When you decide to have children things MUST change. If streaming is his release and hobby that is fine, but it CAN NOT come before his family. This guy is too immature to be a parent, and doesn't even see what he did as wrong.

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Dr. Gonzo
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The YTA are exactly right. The absolute hypocrisy and entitlement from females is getting to be a big fn problem. They want EVERYTHING handed to them regardless of their behaviors or actions, without respecting or thinking about anybody else's. It's fn disgusting and hypocritical, and is just more piling on of the female double fn standards.

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Jessica Thomas-Coats
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She should have acknowledged her husband's cires for help. Me and my husband have been in this situation where he comes home and my daughter, if she is a sleeping, would usually wake up daddy come home from work. Idk how she would know because it would be different times. But wife did over react. But let's face it we have all over reacted at some time or another. To me is sound like both of you wanted a break and if wife makes th schedule she needs to make sure he has time fo his leisure a well. We don't have tons of followers or anything but me and my husband both play video games and run guilds and clubs on games. And social networks for the clubs. And have to coordinate events. My husband generally does the grocery shopping. Or we all go together. But it sounds like you both needed a mental break and you could talk about it and work it out better to get you both what you need instead of focus in on just one.

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Munnin
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There's certainly a parade of incels in these comments.

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Zach X
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So much assumptions, dude could had a baby monitor setup to keep tabs on the baby, and the baby could have been napping the entire time. You people are insane with the speculation simply because the OP was upset. The only proof we have in this situation is that the wife acted terribly to a situation that she was obviously very controlling of. We have NO PROOF of anything the dad was doing, yet vilify him? S**t is crazy. INNOCENT till proven guilty doesn't end when one person gets louder than the other.

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Joshua Cartagena
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Instead of fighting over this couldnt she just have gone through his stream and seen if he had ever actually stood up to go check on the baby? There’s a good chance that the baby was asleep the entire time, every child does act differently but more than likely would be crying if they were hungry or uncomfortable from the full diaper.

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Not_Tellin
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It does not matter what she was doing. Wait. For the record, I can take 4 hours for grocery shopping because it's it's minimum 15 minutes to the store and I shop in more than one store. On top of that, I only shop every 2 weeks so so 4 hours is not dramatic. That bring said.... He took his anger at his WIFE out on their baby. HE NEGLECTED HIS SEVEN MONTH OLD CHILD BECAUSE HIS PANTIES WERE IN A KNOT AT HIS WIFE. Let's change the scenario a bit... wife goes out, he's mad, kid is 10, asks for a snack, interrupts husband. Husband mad because he wanted wife to take kid with her, so he beats the he.l.l out of the kid with a belt.... would those of you defending this negligent douche bag be okay with that? OR instead of hitting the kid, he locks the kid in a closet.....? HE NEGLECTED HIS SEVEN MONTH OLD CHILD IN A PETULANT TANTRUM.

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Tiffany Callis
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So, where I live at now it's only like a 5 to 7 minute drive to Walmart and a foodlion. But where I use to live it took 30 minutes to get there, no matter what way I went. Plus people need to understand that maybe she hasn't been to the store in a bit due to work or something. People are quick to judge and we don't know both sides. But no matter what, even if she did take a "mental break" and left the child with the father. It gives him no justice for neglecting her for 4 hours js.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

my mom takes 3-4 hours in doing grocery, so i dont think accusing the women would be appropriate

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GayBoi
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I love how people act like 4 hours is a long time to shop. It's really normal, actually.

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Leslie Agostino
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I go shopping once every 2 weeks cuz I hate being around people. I combine grocery shopping with clothes shopping and a bite to eat. Yes it can go 4 hours if she was shopping for other necessities.

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Scourge McCloud
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I agree with some of the comments. Yeah she was gone for four hours, but as a father, it's just as much of your responsibility to take care of the child as it the mothers. If you can't even take a break from streaming to check up on the child, you're not a father, you're a man child sperm donor who just wanted the sex without the responsibility that came with it.

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Shayla Katherina
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Her husband is absolutely TA for leaving his baby unattended for that long. When given the ultimatum, your kids come first, not your followers. It's not like his wife didn't let him know several times what he was supposed to be doing. And even though it's not an excuse, the wife could have done a better job of prioritizing free time for her husband to livestream and giving him a definite answer if it means that much to him. We all have hobbies that keep us sane and spouses should support each other to allow for mental health time. Saying "we'll look at the schedule and see if we can make it happen," is basically saying it's going on the back burner indefinitely.

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Lovemyisland ️
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I feel that the people that put a YTA or ESH need a reality check. First of all ,going to do groceries is not a "me time", having to drive ALL the way to go to several stores, carry all the stuff that you bought and organizing it on the car, wich brings me to the second point, yes, you can take the baby with you but EVERYONE knows is way easier to go alone. COMMON sense. While she's doing groceries, the least he can do is stay home and keep an eye on the baby. If this is so difficult for him then next time she can stay at home with the baby and he can do groceries. If he has anxiety or whatever, he should go and look for professional help, because a baby needs full attention and if he cannot handle it then really look for help. The woman cannot be doing everything at the house, she needs his help and support. She told him that they would talk about when he can do the "live stream" because they have a lot going on right now. If you ask me he sounds like a 25 years old.

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Denise Painter
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Doesn't matter if he needed a break. Doesn't matter that she was gone four hours. There is only one thing that matters: She told him she was leaving and he agreed to watch the baby while she was gone. And he apparently didn't. End of story. When you take on a responsibility and then don't do it, YTA. When you agree to take care of an infant, and then don't do it, you're a really big *ssh*l* and should rethink your life choices. If you are the Mom of this kid, you NEVER leave your kid alone in his care again. Because you know he lies so you can't trust him. If he lied about caring for the baby, what else is he lying about?

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Tree P
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She probably took so long because she was trying to find baby formula. Also, count in traffic and long lines due to shortage of workers, four hours is not long.

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Shanta Kamath
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes, the husband was wrong not to care for the baby when only he could. What would be a constructive way to respond to that so the baby would have the care needed and each parent could go from striving to thriving in the family? I didn't read anything about changing and feeding the baby or putting the groceries away before charging in on the show. To me, making sure those things were done and that I had time to process and get prepared for a constructive conversation would have been the way to go. If he gets money from YouTube, he was humiliated at his job in front of thousands of people in what *may* have been an overreaction, as others have explained. If the baby just woke up and was okay and he could have wrapped up to tend to her in the next moment, what you did was abusive and undermined his income as well as as his self-esteem. That hurts the whole family including your child. I kicked my husband out for this and single parenting was not easier. A family is on the same team.

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Patton Kinzel
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It sounds like mom was taking advantage of "no baby time" too! He was absolutely in the wrong but if he is telling you that he needs a mental health break; you shouldn't take a 4 hour shopping trip! You knew he was at a "breaking point" meaning he "needed" that break.... 4 hours, come on you apparently needed that break too! You were both neglecting that baby! He wasn't caring for her properly but you left her with him, obviously concerned or you wouldn't have continued calling like you did; which in turn is also neglect! Get on the same f***** page before you guys seriously hurt that innocent child THAT YOU BOTH DECIDED TO BRING INTO THIS DAMN WORLD!

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Wyneta Levine
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why have children if you think only of yourselves and what you want both need to grow up

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Someone Important
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

BOTH of them need to grow up. He needs to pay more attention and she needs to learn boundaries of what is and isn't public information.

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Colin Timp
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She did mention that the kid was asleep. We don't have the whole story here. Was the kid crying when she got home? How long was the child awake? Some people seem to think that if you're not paying attention to your children every minute they're awake, that somehow you're a bad parent. Also, how many times do you call your significant other while grocery shopping??? Sounds like there's some other issues with this relationship!

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Esiaa
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

ESH in my opinion. They clearly have communication issues and should sit down and talk things through. Or better yet, each of them need to take a few hours off each week (different days) for themselves and make a schedule out of it. That way one parent will have time to relax, the other will keep an eye on the child.

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Marilyn Russell
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He shouldn’t be “live-streaming” while he is looking after his daughter - period.

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Lunar
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That's why I take those parents live streaming their families and babies with a pinch of salt. The probability of them showing a 'perfect' or fun family for YT is high.

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Candice Cook
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If you feel like you can't leave your partner alone and responsible for your child for any length of time without constantly checking up on them, there's already a problem. Either, you've seen that they aren't responsible enough for the task or you've got some other issue that needs to be addressed asap if you want it to work. Personally, I've been there done that with an irresponsible partner and if you feel that way now, you're likely always gonna feel that way so you might as well move on now or accept that you'll be shouldering the majority of the responsibility and ALL the resentment.

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Janice Parks
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He arranged for the time with followers. Is getting a sitter for that time out of the question?

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Wonderful
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Just cause the door was shut doesn't mean he was neglecting her. Baby monitors are here just for that. Why call him constantly it's almost like you expected him to fail. I bet he made a bottle went to give it saw she was asleep and went to play games. She woke, pooped, did baby things without crying and then you came in and assumed she was being neglected. Diaper rash? Crying? Poo smeared everywhere? No. Mom is tired and wants to get away for a few hours. Ok no prob. Husband wants to play games while his kids asleep. Ok no prob. They need to work on their communication and also it seems both are barely hanging on to this relationship. Which makes sense with a child that age. Mom give dad some space to breathe, dad give mom some space, baby be baby.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

An infant that hasn't been fed in 4 hours is neglected. He didn't hear his wife call out for him so he wouldn't have heard a baby monitor either. Clearly the husband had way too much space if he can't even parent for 4 measly hours! Of course she expected him to fail, which he did, big time. She should know, she's married to the man-child.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't quite understand - the child was fine? Awake but not in distress? Then I don't understand the fuss. Would he have heard his daughter crying? Also, is this Youtube channel his livelyhood or part of it? Sorry, but this is too generic and too many information missing to establish an opinion for me. The wife sounds rather controlling to me about what he is allowed to do and when.

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Say What
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You're delusional. The infant was not fine. It was starving and stewing in a soiled diaper. It should have been fed twice during that time. The fact that he doesn't take care of his daughter and leaves it all up to her doesn't make her, controlling. He does get time to do what he wants, just not while he is in charge with caring for their child. No, he wouldn't hear the baby cry just like he couldn't hear his wife calling for him. Taking care of an infant is work. You don't leave work for four hours and wonder why you're boss is mad. Well, maybe YOU do, but it's ridiculous. He clearly doesn't want to be a father so he shouldn't have.

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Elliot Fowler
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was of the opnion that the husband was the only AH in this story but the but the comments calling out the mother for ignoring the husband's requests for some time to stream made me reconsider.

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Say What
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She checked in with him multiple times and the husband had no problem with it so why do you? I'd bet money she continued to get errands done because her man-child husband never pulls his weight so she never gets out of the house, just like he couldn't even pull his weight for a few hours here. He clearly isn't a parent.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This woman is obviously a Karen Amber Heard and he needs to divorce her. She’s using grocery shopping as an excuse to get time out of the house away from doing what she is forcing him to do. She could have used an app to order her groceries for pickup, so she didn’t have to spend 4 hours walking around the store picking them out. That’s just suspicious. He also should be allowed to stream while taking care of your little b@stard child. She obviously just enjoys telling him no and preventing him from having any hobbies or enjoyment in his life. He needs to stand up for himself, backhand her across the face and tell her he’s going to divorce her for being such a selfish b—ch.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wtf is wrong with you? Could you manage to sound any more like an jerkass troll?

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Damn, I feel bad for that guy being married to her. She sounds like a controlling Karen-esque b—ch.

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Anthony Jones
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

All these stupid a** women defending the mom. First off mothers are not default better parents. Secondly i like to game in my downtime When my first child was born i didn't have time. In fact I didn't game for two years. We had Two kids back to back my wife was unable to work then had PPD. We didn't have a car so when I get off work I come home check on her and the kids then walk to the grocery store. 25 mins walk grocery shopping for the week for all of us 1hr walking back trying to carry all the bags. Didn't take me 4hrs. I needed a mental health break but couldn't afford it. God gave me the strength I prayed for. She didn't spend 4hrs picking up groceries she took her own break which is fine except she knew he needed one too. So since he expressed that to her they should've agreed on a time for both. Also EVERY SINGLE PARENT ESPECIALLY NEW PARENTS MAKES MISTAKES AND BAD JUDGEMENT CALLS SO ALL YOU IDIOTS WITHOUT KIDS AND SELF RIGHTEOUS B****S LEAVE THE MAN ALONE.

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Rasheeda Shaheen
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Mother's have more connection with the child. Majority of us knows ita time to grow up when the baby is in us. He obviously makes excuses of why he need to do his live streaming instead of helping out with the baby. I am sure this is not the first issue that she had with him about how he don't pull his weight around and help. I hope you don't have a daughter if so I would love to see how you respond to a guy calling her B*****S! Obviously you don't know how it feels to be a mother to carry a baby for months body changing hormones everywhere and need some quiet time to think. Not to relax but to think and concentrate on what all needs to be done around the house. I grew up with old time people especially men and if their wives went to the store to grocery shop they either goes with them to help out with the kids or they keep their baby/child. While mom is out and they don't go and play games with friends etc... They expect wife to be gone for some hours.

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tori Ohno
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Cover your bases and watch your back. That clip is online forever now. Hopefully nobody will call CPS on the two of you for neglecting a 7 month old like that. Some people are just mean enough to do it. Not your fault though, he's a horrible person and father.

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Bethany
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I find it very odd that the wife feels her husband needs permission to have a streaming session. It's clear he's repeatedly asked for this. Also we aren't talking about a newborn here. 7 month Olds don't need feeds every couple hours and they don't need changing all the time either. And no one in their right mind wakes up a healthy sleeping child to do either. The baby wasn't crying when she got home. Between the need for her to schedule the live session, her repeated calls home and her overblown reaction, I'm really not a fan of her.

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Bob Barker
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is a classic case of "you will do EVERYTHING on my terms and my terms alone". She admits he told her for days that he wanted to do this and her answer is "we will look at the schedule and see if we can fit it in".... What the F does that even mean? I will tell you. It means "if I feel you should be allowed to do it, I'll let you know". She is a control freak. She is not mad he live streamed or even that the baby wasn't changed (she has no way to know how long the diaper was soiled), she is mad that he didn't do exactly what she wanted him to do. She was also mad that he wasn't waiting by the phone for her.

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Katherine Stevens
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

yes there is not enough info to fully determine. But in my opinion you and him need to get you stuff together. I live like 20min from the grocery store, 4hrs is uncalled for if you have a list. Get a baby bed or something for in your husband's office so he can have more mental health days. And I'm sorry but a baby is fine for a few hrs sleeping and not having a bottle helped raise four nieces. All slept about 4 to 6 hrs without being touched. And if you were so worried about the baby you should have brought her with you. Grocery shopping is a break from the house especially when it takes 4 hrs. My husband games and streams occasionally he can definitely hear alot of what's going on in the house, he probably didn't respond because he was in the middle of a conversation or a q&a session. If he can hear the phone he can hear the baby crying. And what netter time to have a mental health break while wife is at the grocery store for 4hrs and baby is asleep. Both are the aholes but her more.

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Ebony E.
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think both are equally TA because he should have some time to check on his daughter, and she shouldn't have to be out for that long. If she watches his stream, she could be wrong about him and he probably checked on his daughter in between breaks. If the husband checked on his daughter, then he's not a horrible dad after all. If she wrote a grocery list in advance, she wouldn't be there for 4 HOURS. It's basically everyone's fault. I just hope that OP and her husband can find common ground and be there for their daughter.

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Alex Freetime
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

4 hours is a damn long time, also raising kids is a huge chore. Cut the guy some slack, the kid wasn't going to die, he just lost track of time for a bit because God forbids he's doing something he loves. Bitching about it knowing you're gonna hurt his only hobby isn't gonna make things better in the long run. Now he's gonna resent this and for what? A damn diaper? People, learn to talk to each other properly before starting a family.

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Terry Sanders
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why is the first thing out of almost everyone's mouth in situations like this is ' ooh girl you better leave or It's time to divorce that so and so'? Was he an a**hole for leaving a baby unattended for such a long period of time? Yes...was she an a**hole for being gone for so long believing he was going to watch the baby? Yes!...I'm sure he showed her exactly who he was before they even got married and had this kid but she ignored it (as people often do)...thinking everything will change and we'll be sooo happy once he sees that sweet little face. We'll be a happy little family and live happily ever after. When someone show you who they are...believe them. Is this marriage salvageable? I think so...but they both have to want to do the work and agree that for the next 18 yrs atleast 😋 the babies needs come first.

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AverytheCat 98
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Not to sound like a jerk myself, but she left a child with someone who was WORKING. Seriously should've take the child with her.

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Vera1
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What the hell do you think mums have been doing during the pandemic? They worked AND they took care of their children during it. No one batted an eye though, because it’s expected of women… but it’s seemingly impossible to do both for him, but only because he’s a man.

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spooky katt
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Shes the a*****e. The way she assumes 100% complete dictatorship over every last minute of his spare time is concerning to me. Why do so many women feel entitled to doing that? I would NEVER tell my own partner "well, you can't partake in this hobby that you enjoy without my prior approval bc "responsibilities" ...Perhaps we can pencil it into a schedule that clearly I 100% dictate. I think its more about OP is threatened by his hobby. Regardless of what REALLY happened, she was free to leave the house for 4 hours, continually blew up his phone to check and make sure he wasn't livestreaming, and then used this situation as an excuse to scream at him in front of everyone in order to sabotage and ruin his channel. Men get depression after a baby too. Men have mental health needs too. Sounds like he did obey her wishes throughout the week and ultimately decided when the jail warden left the house to indulge in his hobby while the baby was sleeping. OP sounds EXTREMELY controlling imo.

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Emma Q.
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It is his hobby. It can wait until she comes home. The wife even said he could stream on certain days/times - he just couldn't do a 48 hour stream like he wanted. Yes - both parents mental health is important but it is still a shared responsibility to care for the child. He could have waited and been willing to compromise on the schedule.

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Ed Bangor
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

1: that the baby was ignored is a huge assumption. There is zero evidence that the baby wasn't asleep until the mother got home. 2: the father, by the mother's own admission, was asking for some personal time for days. Everyone was aware of his needs. 3: if the mother felt the impulse to repeatedly call and check in, she has maybe trust issues that need to be worked out. Of the father isn't trustworthy, you take the kid with you. If you leave the kid, you have to believe that your spouse isn't going to let your child die. She is totally the a*****e here.

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Corey Askwith
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yup DTA. Streaming is in some ways a job and can become a legitimate full time income. Sounds like your partner is working really hard to give it a shot and also enjoys it. You definitely could have approached it better, I am sure you wouldn't like your partner to interrupt you in the work place and accuse you of child abuse in front of your coworkers, it would ruin your image. He abviously has a dream of growing his following and your actions was to try to destroy that. Obviously there needs to be a talk about managing his time and priorities and to make a set schedule but that should be done in private.

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AverytheCat 98
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Not to sound like a jerk myself, but she left a child with someone who was WORKING. Seriously should've took the kid with her. Being a youtuber is hard work as it is and taking care of children while being a content creator is harder I believe [I wouldn't know. I don't have kids of my own nor do I want any [I prefer my furbabies]].

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Emma Q.
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He didn't say it was a job though. We have no idea how much income is derived from it. And it still doesn't excuse the fact that he wasn't okay with the schedule his wife was fixing for them. One of the benefits of a youtuber job is flexible work hours. He could have waited until the wife came home even if it was 4 hours.

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Keith O
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

ESH. Husband should not have just left his daughter unattended in the bedroom for sure, no argument there. But wife got to go shopping......for hours all the while she had ignored his repeated requests for a mental break as well. They are both immature in this situation and need to figure out if this is just a hard time to work through, or a time to reevaluate. And btw.......14K followers is not a lot, that's the part that's sticking in my craw, she "ruined" his channel. I think the parents need to see a therapist or move on.

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Say What
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

GOT to go shopping? Since when is the chore of keeping a household running a prize? She didn't ignore his request for streaming time. You're making that up. She disagreed with him taking that time when the were already busy with chores. Do you ditch work for mental health time or do you wait until you have free time? Well there ya go. How was she immature for doing chores? That's ridiculous.

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Get a baby monitor. Eyes on the baby could have alerted you much sooner! Some dads do great with a baby some not so much. Same goes for moms. With a 7 month old baby, you should have know by now if he could handle your four hour shopping.

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Sounds like both parents need to wake up and smell the coffee! If you can't be a**ed to look after your kids......don't breed! By a TV or something FFS lol

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I agree, the baby could have just woken up. I'm sure if he heard the baby crying that he would have checked on it, especially with her calling constantly to make sure he was checking on it. She needs to let him learn on his own how to parent. Also, the wife just immediately starts going off on him without a civil discussion first? They/she needs counseling.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Except he didn't hear how wife come home, walk around the house calling out to him, know she'd been in to see baby, and didn't even hear till she walked into the room with him. Do 7 MO old babies go hunting around the house for parents on your planet???? Cuz on this one, they can't even crawl, walk, or chase your lame a*s down in the house, behind closed doors. You're dumb, plz don't have children

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Both are idiots and don't deserve a child. You want your "me time"? Well tough luck. You bring that little human into the world so his/her needs trumps your "me time" every day of the week. The husband is an arsehole, no doubt. But clearly, there is more to this story with the 4 hour "grocery shopping".

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Not necessarily. What if it's a 20-30 minute drive one way? Or even both ways. There's also checkout times. Possibly running other errands...

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She's TA...he doesn't stream everyday, the baby was fine, and she gets to go out for four hours. Also sounds like a drama queen and it doesn't take much to send her off the deep end....judging that her husband relies on 14K followers to help him communicate better than his wife, seems like an escape...ijs

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She was literally grocery shopping. That is it. Not the break you seem to think that it is

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I love how because she's female they are all classing her 4 hour grocery (and I assume other household essentials/errands) trip as "me time" for her and therefore she is TA. HOUSEHOLD TASKS DO NOT COUNT AS TIME FOR YOURSELF!

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Exactly!! Cuz her shopping for him, her and their infant is her f*****g hobby! Good grief this planet is doomed

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Well I live in a small town, so I need to drive about 20-25 minutes to get to the grocery stores every other week. Because I only go twice a month, it's a huge trip. I end up going to 3 stores usually. And yes, my trips are usually 4 hours long. I see no problem with the length of her working trip.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

People forget that not everyone lives 5 minutes from the nearest grocery store. And if it's been a while since they've stocked up, that will increase the time it takes to shop as well. I agree, 4 hours isn't necessarily unreasonable, depending on the circumstances. Heck, I live within a 10 minute drive of multiple grocery stores, and it can still take me 2 hours or so to get everything.

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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The four hour grocery shopping trip seems to be dividing people. I get he needs pto too, but so does she and grocery shopping isn’t my idea of time off. But regardless of how long she was gone, he didn’t hear her yelling when she came back, so he wouldn’t have heard his child either. That’s the YTA bit. Edit: I meant he couldn’t hear the child, and so wouldn’t have been able to hear it was in trouble either. Making him an irresponsible git. Not her.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There were phone calls were he said she was fine but clearly wasn't. It sounds like he didn't check on her at all.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why is everyone going on about the 4 hours? Seeing how that A-hole of a father couldn't even care for his daughter for 4 hours you can bet he is like this all the time. So she does all the work, AND goes shopping and ends up as the accused? Wow.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Duke...my TWO parents take hours to shop. They don't go anywhere else. And he was at home.. but wasn't actually watching his daughter...she had a soiled diaper and wasn't even fed. How are going to blame the woman going to buy food for her family, and defend the guy who was SPECIFICALLY asked to watch his own child, instead decides streaming a game was FAR more important, even though FAR more popular streamers can at LEAST take p**s breaks. You're disgusting for defending that man.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It doesn’t matter if he *deserved* the time off to do his thing, or how long she was gone. This ultimately isn’t him vs. her. It’s about him being a responsible parent when he was alone with his child, regardless of why he was alone with his child. Once he agreed that he would take care of his daughter, and knew that this wife was leaving the house, it utterly irresponsible for him to close his door and put his headphones on. He’s so worried about his reputation with his fans, what if instead he had brought her into the room with him or had a baby monitor on the desk and said, “Hey guys. I’m watching my daughter, so I may have to go at any time.” And then when his wife is back, *then* they can argue about whether there’s time for him to do his thing.

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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Your husband is a man-child. That’s some crazy behavior, I would of lost my s**t too. If my husband ever did that to our son, He’d come to soon regret it. Also he didn’t forget to check up on her he decided not to (which makes it extra shitty) because clearly his wife called and reminded him several times.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Holy c**p I never thought about that! Very good point. Become OP’s divorce lawyer with your good sight for detail!

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I know everyone is commenting on the 4 hour grocery run but I go to do 'groceries' and that means stopping at the bank, getting gas, stopping and getting something from a particular store for something I could only get there, grabbing a bite for lunch, then going to the grocery store. 3 or 4 hours can go by easily. But more than that, babies don't need to be watched every minute and they poop and pee a lot. It does sound like maybe the husband has an online addiction and is justifying it by saying it's good for his mental health. 'Needing' followers and to be online and his overdramatic reaction tells me he may take it a little too seriously and it isn't as healthy as he thinks. But people are acting like he tied the baby to a radiator and left her hungry for days. He may have very well checked her 15 minutes before and she was sleeping so he went online. If this was a pattern for him or there was evidence of abuse then okay but there isn't evidence of that really.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ummmmm some errands take a few hours. He neglected his child. Divorce is butt and find a real man.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Also the people saying “YTA because you were on a 4 hour grocery trip how suspicious blah blah blah” forget that it’s difficult to keep track of how much food, perhaps formula, etc.. you have when you need to care for an infant. Not to mention they are looking past the husband’s neglect and saying “That’s terrible but you were on a 4 hour grocery trip AND called multiple times to check in like a responsible parent? Hmm… ETA!”

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Lol no it's not. Make a list go shopping get what you need get out. Does not take hrs unless you are using it as me time which she was. Probably shopping for 1hr 3hrs me time. She said they both work which means neither has me time. Fine she needs some but she tried to hide it n he probably called her out so she needs online women to justify her 4hr trip and clear her conscience. Lol

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I honestly dont even understand why people thing she is the AH. First of all grocewry shopping for 4 hours is completely possible, but my main point is HE AGREED TO TAKE CARE FOR HER, thats all, nothing else matters, if he really wanted to forget his daughter and f-ing stream on yt he could, with her in there or he could take regular breaks. Or just stream after she came back, he had the responsibility he agreed upn not only when he agreed to take care of her. AND IF HE WANTED SO MUCH THE TIME FOR STREAMING, HE COULD JUST CALL HER AND ASK THE MOTHER TO COME HOME EARLIER. i dont have kids, but i would not suggest divorce right away, more like everyone in this household gets the same regurarly, like streaming 3 times a week in the afternoon? i suggest a therapy and talking about priorities and free time.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Or don't agree to watch her. Why agree to watch the baby if you're not going to?

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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Hell to the No you are NTA but the guy you’re with is a total AH with BS priorities not to mention a complete fuckface.

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Debbie Sanders
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I’m so tired of “mental health needs” trumping being a responsible adult and especially a parent. To those who YTA’d because god forbid she was out of the house for 4 hrs gtfoh! You are clueless if you think grocery shopping means a 5 minute drive to, 20 minutes to shop AND checkout and 5 minutes back!

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sounds nice, but I use 40 min. from my local trainstation, to town. Then about 10 minuttes to go to the store, which is huge, and I usually uses some time just trying to find, what I need. If I can do that in 4 hours, it is a successful day.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't care about the time she was out grocery shopping and if it was reasonable or not. It's not about that. It's that when the other parent is away you are responsible. You can't just neglect your child just because you suddenly feel like having me-time. No matter how badly you feel that you need it you suck it up until it's possible. That's how it works to be a parent. If you feel that you need a break you COMMUNICATE that beforehand and you decide on a time when that's possible - for both parents. Never let your child get in the middle of your battles as a couple. And yes, I think 4 hrs without attending to a 7 month old, with closed doors, is too long regardless if the child is sleeping or not.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Regardless of how long she was gone, he is also a parent. He needs to learn how to be responsible. Baby first, then gaming.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And at least she even called to check on the child, while the so called “man of the house” was streaming……

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You have two children. A 7-month old. And a 420-month old. The OP should not be taken to task for being gone 4 hours. Is that a long time for grocery shopping? Perhaps. Maybe she had to do a ton of other errands and lumped them all together as "grocery shopping". Maybe she just needed a few hours to herself. She's entitled to that, and her husband should be capable of caring for his own child for four hours without her having to worry about whether he's neglecting her. She does not need to justify the length of her errands. Husband is clearly the AH and needs to sack up, get his priorities in order, and stop whining.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Krixl he ruined his family. Aw sounds like you have been here before and a little sour hope thing get better. It is called holding yourself accountable for your action. Bad actions have bad consequences. No sane women wants to be with someone who f***s up watching their child then can’t admit it. Oh and if you think grocery store is me time I have plenty of people who would love for you to go grocery shopping for them. Wow it really hurts when women stick up for themselves hu

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I bet she sounded unhinged. I’d sound unhinged too if my baby was left soiled and unfed. It doesn’t matter how long she was gone or if he needed a break too. He was in charge of the baby and he neglected her making him TA. This is marriage ending stuff.

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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have 2 children, every single time I go grocery shopping it takes 2+ hours, usually 3, more when they were smaller. But, I shop 1x per month, this way I get the most for my money, and shop price per ounce. I can assure you, other than couponer's I absolutely know without a doubt I get more for my money than anyone shopping any other way. Period! Now on to this a*****e, no she couldn't wait, no he wasn't just as entitled to his time as she was to hers, as grocery shopping is not a f*****g hobby!!!!!! His stream is! 14k followers is not an income stream, your not an influencer, you're delusional, your wife should absolutely without a doubt leave you! Yes, 7mo old children do nap for 4 hours, at times, but...... She came home and yelled repeatedly for him, and had to physically track him down, and yet he still never even knew she was home...... What chance does a 7mo old have of getting his attention?? Dump the loser protect your baby!!!

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Sean Williams
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

First off, streaming is income, second your assume he was lying about checking, third you don't know when the child woke up or pooped.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Op should leave that a*****e. All that posted yta are probably his streaming audience and can't understand what being responsible means. He had his stream, the shopping was communicated and he was ok with it, 4 h isn't long for shopping who knows what she needed to get for the family. What kind of stupid, unresponsible, raving idiot leaves a baby unwatched and goes streaming? if u don't want to take responsibility for your offsprings ok leave, pay child support and everyone is fine. Op could find someone better and the idiot could start his streaming career. The incel fraction of his audience would glorify him for that.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Okay who downvoted this, Lisa’s comment is funny! And accurate. And against the husband not the OP.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So...it seems like everyone saying she is TA doesn't understand how grocery shopping may work. My fiancee and I go twice a month because it's how our finances work and those trips are LONG even though we live 6 mins from a grocery store. When I was a kid it was a whole day affair because the closest grocery store we could afford closed (the others were too expensive because small town and didn't have much) so we would drive at least 20 minutes one direction and sometimes longer to get to the store. We had to strategically time our trips with funding streams as well. I went grocery shopping with a friend for a party once that lived in a smaller town than mine and it took us an hour just to GET to the store. So many layers of privilege go into thinking she is TA and excusing him. Also, the toxicity around weaponizing mental health needs is absolutely ridiculous.

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I'mNotARoboat
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A four hour nap for a seven month old is NOT normal. He said he checked on her but I think that's a lie. It didn't matter that he was streaming, his door should not have been closed.

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Roberta Bray-Enhus
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ok. He’s not an adult, he’s an over grown child.He’s selfish,shallow,and he’s not ready to parent anything or anyone,period. I wouldn’t trust him with a goldfish! Perhaps he wasn’t told that,Your kids come first! Your life is no longer your own once a baby is born. The next 18 years of your life is focused on raising a good caring little person. Everything gets put on hold,especially your ridiculous live streaming.Your job is to make sure that tiny human, get what she needs! Which is love care affection a full tummy and a clean dry bum! His or her comfort is what’s important, not your effin YouTube channel. I would have moved to my moms house as well. Let him decide what he needs more of in his life.

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Britney Anthony
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

For all the YTA when a mom says grocery store it usually means errands the other will not do so she must do. Running errands is not time off people it still doing thisng we don’t want to be doing but must if we want food on the table and other errands such as paying certain bills, car parts grocery shopping dr apt, drop off stuff and certain stores carry certain things so yes a grocery trip can be 4 hours depending on diffrplaces to shop oh and let’s not forget she was not having fun or taking time off. I bet she had to go because he refused. I save all my errands for one day to get it all done I call it errand day. Plus have you ever gone shopping on a budget? It takes a lot of time trying to do the math and figure out what is more important for a family is not easy.

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Alek Demetropoulos
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The man has a basic video game addiction, he most likely uses the stream situation to justify his Peter Pan disorder.

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Casey McAlister
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I've always wondered why people have kids when they obviously aren't ready for them. Like, if you know it's gonna interfere with your actual priorities and will become a burden for you - why? A child isn't a piece of furniture you can shove into the closet when you don't want it anymore. But I didn't understand one thing - if the baby was hungry and with a dirty diaper, why didn't she cry? That's one calm baby.

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Julian Scherner
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That manbaby needs to grow up and quick. When you are a father, your child comes first, second and third. End of story. Also, pto?? You get that during the night, while you sleep. At least while your baby is mere months old. Also also, live streaming? "Fanbase"? Someone really needs to learn the meaning of words like "profession" and "work".

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Ilonka Talbot
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's not as complicated as some want to make it. He AGREED to watch over the child. He didn't do that. She has every reason to be upset by that.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You know, he could easily check on her every 45 minutes or so like an adult. Just tell his "fans" BRB and then be like checking on MY CHILD. "He agreed to watch her" it's his daughter too.

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Adeline Bennett
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Grocery shopping is not a "mental health break". It's called duty/chore. She's shopping for 3 people and who's to say she even lives that close to the store?

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I enjoy going to the store....for ME it would be a mental health break from my 1 yr old as long as I'm able to take my time and not rush. I can see every other person on here is different, I'm just saying, I would enjoy it.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If he thinks doing all the family errands is a "mental health break" rather than the adult responsibility that it is, then he can take over all the grocery store runs, the couponing, the banking, etc. and see how relaxing he finds it.

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East
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

4 hour errands is pretty damn common. That's how you can tell those people given as examples are not really adults lol.

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MsLou
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I really want an update on this story. Can anyone provide an update?

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Drew H
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I checked. This is the only post for her account and it's currently locked. She didn't even comment on it.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So NTA. Yes she may have missed that he needed me time, grocery shopping is a task not me time. He could have waited until she came back to stream. His only focus should have been his child period. He was more worried about followers than if the baby was fed and changed.

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Anna Torres
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You know what's hilarious if you're a married man and you don't go grocery shopping with your significant other they don't honestly know that we go to about five well myself I go to six different stores for different things because some things are cheaper and yes you have to drive around and deal with other people that are shopping too and so yes 4 hours is actually plausible I go shopping for three other people and three people out of the four have dietary restrictions this point it doesn't matter if it's a man or woman if you're being told to watch your child so that your significant other can go shopping because you don't feel like it or whatever his reasonings were. I don't care if you're a man I don't care if you're a woman I don't care if you're a purple spotted giraffe you don't leave your kids sitting for hours with your door closed not seeing if there needs to be a bottle you put a timer on you become an adult you become a parent.

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Amanda Charity
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Go to the grocery store for 4 hours= Which is my hobby????!!! Newsflash we hate the grocery store we just go because if we send our husband's we would be eating bologna sandwiches and DeGarno pizzas for the month! I could think of a million other things to do with said Me Time!

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Poh_tatoes
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Exactly!!! And then those same men will say "when they make grocery, I only takes a few minutes to a half hour".

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Ken knowler
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Are people defending this clearly selfish man??, what if something happened to the child and he in a Completly different room unable to hear anything.. You dont leave a baby alone for hours. You just dont and if your defending this mans me time. Then your just as f*****g selfish as this guy..

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RandomGuy
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

4 hours is nothing. The husband could've taken the baby into the room with him if he wanted to stream so he can keep an eye on her and go afk when it's feeding time or time to change diapers. Also, if that baby had died, it's automatically the husband's fault because of his ignorance and the "I forgot" bit will not save him. In fact, it's not an excuse. And he could take time off YouTube. It's not like he would lose a shitload of subscribers in a single hour just because he wasn't on. I'm willing to bet that those people saying that OP was in the wrong aren't even parents themselves and if they're not, then what do they know about parenting?

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Kimberly Wiltshire
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The people berating the mom for going shopping for 4 hours. Yo give over! Sounds to me she carries the brunt of the duties including doing 4 hours worth of shopping because husband doesnt get off his a$$ and carry his weight as an adult let alone parent. Whining about his SM fix give me a break. That is not a cry for mental health needs and self care its backwards priorities. Wth ya'll are probably SM addicts yourselves. So explain to me how you are literally legitimizing this father's physical and psychological neglect? Nope! shut the door.

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Delta Alpha
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Apparently, these "man-child enablers" have never shopped at Costco or Sam's Club.

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sweetrottenpeaches
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

One question ... how the hell could she have a child with a man like that? And it is not about gaming or streaming. It is about priorities I think. I love to play video games, and it is much more important than any kid... so l will never ever ruin my life by having any :D Doesn't she knows her own partner? So once again... Why these people have a kid?

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Ladytron
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's impossible to know how people react to being parents. Chances are that they both decided to have a child and both said they would take care of and love that child endlessly and so on. Then parenthood hits and your life is different and your relationship is not like it used to be. At all. All parenting groups are filled with stories like this. Endless fights about "me-time", dividing housework and caring for the kid/kids etc. There is a reason many people divorce after having kids, often while the kids are younger. So let's not put the blame on her for this one.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So he thinks is stream is ruined because she exposed him so he knows what he did was wrong then, I mean how hard is it to check up on the baby every once in a while your stream isn't going to die from a 10 minute break.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Dumb dumbs: Blaming the mother for taking 4 hours to grocery shop, claiming she did other potentially leisurely things Me: One person who regularly takes 2+ hours to grocery shop for about a week's worth of food when it's relatively busy Hey, maybe the mom WAS doing other things but it's not out of the realm of plausibility that she just either needed to go to multiple stores, the store(s) was packed, she was shopping for the next month or so (and for three people, one being an expensive a*s baby) or the store(s) was just a decent ways away. So yeah, the dad is the a*****e through and through. Mom is fine unless she actually was having some me time OUTSIDE of grocery shopping because no, grocery shopping is not me time for most people. It might be fun for some people but it's an errand that has to be run just like paying your car note or whatever. How hard was it for the dad to just tell his viewers that he needed to check on his child every now and then? I don't do live stuff 1/2

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that.bitch.mae
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

2/2 often but when I do, I let people know if or when I have to go AFK for a bit to check on my pets. It's not hard and most people will understand (and if he viewers didn't understand that he has a child that can't sustain itself just yet, he's better off not having them as viewers anyway).

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zer0lore
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

for the people that called her out for the shopping trip, you do realize that she could’ve gone out far, right? i live in a family of four and our shopping trips average 5-6 hours. and maybe she wanted some alone time, who knows? her husband still should’ve made sure to take care of their child instead of leaving her.

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Iam Knucks
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As usual, these stories always feel one sided. People post a story online in a way that they expect everyone to agree and support them. So you know they're leaving some details out. But as presented, social media is the a*****e. An addictive time sink used only to artificially prop up people's low self-esteem with hollow praise from strangers.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

i think a 4 hour trip is reasonable tbh if you cant figure out how to balance streaming and a child you shouldnt stream or you should tell your wife straight out that you want to stream so she should take the baby. if he had just said what he wanted to do and worked something out with her this wouldnt have happened

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gie
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This was a breakdown of communication and expectations, to jump to the conclusion and siding with one partner over the other based on a one-sided account is bias. We have the wife's account which counts for plenty, but paints him in a corner. If this is their first baby, parenting mistakes are bound to happen but going right to divorce is just an easy out. Parenthood and marriage take WORK and Patience. Therapy can work well in this case to navigate the expectations of each parent and re-evaluate the marriage, even if it leads to divorce. I don't think the dad or mom are villains in this, but 100% need to get s**t straight what each other expects from the partnership since there's a child involved. We don't even know if they are a two-income household either. My solution is they hire a babysitter for a couple of hours if they want downtime from each other or to do separate activities.

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Christopher Boyd
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is exactly what I’m thinking, and the people with the name calling…. Woosa! Chill Out!!! You only have one side of the story

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Carol Emory
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I can see a shopping trip taking four hours if you are going to multiple stores and driving a while...but why not take your daughter with you. That gives your husband his streaming time alone. Once he's done with it, then you can make him watch your daughter while you relax in your own way. I was about to say NTA...but then I remember that me and my husband would have never survived on our own raising an autistic child if we didn't give each other a break every once in a while. You get your time alone going shopping, he should have his alone time too. But why does his live streaming have to be discussed as if you think of it as a waste of time instead of a mental health break. You get your break...he deserves his too. But leaving a baby unfed and diaper full is not cool . Everyone's the A**hole here...except the 7 month old...poor baby!

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Rasheeda Shaheen
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Have you ever shop big time with a baby? Trust me you have to stop feed them change them picked them up to hold them etc... you will forget things or it becomes more stressful and you just do half of the trip. It's stressful to shop with a 7 month old. I literally can't go nowhere without my son when he was 7 months I had a nervous breakdown in the store trying to shop and take care of him. My mom had to come and get me. Than she went to the store with me the next day. She attended to my son while I focused on my shopping.

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Anna Snorrepot
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

two people who failed to communicate with each other and plan their shared responsibilities (i.e. the kid and running the household and finding time in the shared calendar for him to stream)

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The Other Guest
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

How much more communicating did he need? He is a PARENT first and foremost; his wife shouldn't have to tell him "When you are watching our child, please be sure to feed her and change her diaper." If he absolutely had to livestream at that time, then he should have brought the baby into the room with him & taken care of her as needed.

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Maggie Hood
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

For the people who are saying ETA, the mom was going grocery shopping for 4 hours, which is a long time but she was also constantly checking in on him and the baby to make sure everything was okay. They could live far from the grocery store, she could've had a lot of stuff to get, or the store could've been really packed and slow. She also could've gone to multiple stores. Also, grocery shopping and running errands is not "taking a mental health break". Its work. She was out working while the husband was at home having fun. There is no excuse for leaving the baby unattended for the sake of streaming. At least have the baby in the same room so you can keep an eye on her. It baffles me that people are blaming the mom at all.

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Audry Camille
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

For those asking about the shopping trip: I've done 4 hr grocery runs. It's called multiple stores. She probably had other errands to run too (post office, hardware store, pet store etc). Those trips are exhausting, but sometimes necessary.

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Bedlamite
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Reminds me of an incident that happened with my grandson when he was 18 months old. My daughter had made him something to eat, told husband, who was playing a video game, that she was going to the gym and left for an hour or so. When she got home, hubby was still playing, and she starts looking around, questioning where the baby was. She eventually found him in the kitchen laying on the floor. Apparently he hadn't wanted to eat the dinner she made and instead wanted a peanut butter sandwich, which his dad wouldn't make for him, instead decided to let him cry it out on the kitchen floor. Because obviously gaming is WAY more important than soothing your child. I mean, it would probably take half a minute to make a sandwich for your kid. Or maybe even try to get him to eat what was made for him. POS.

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Sarah Bell
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He doesn't miss his daughter. He is an unfit parent and do not let your daughter be around him unsupervised until she can fend for herself . It's not like he forgot she was there (not excusable either ) he knew she was the there and purposely neglected her to stream. His behavior was ...oh s**t I'm so sorry ....it qas oh s**t now I'm never going to be a professional streamer . Maybe wr van make his dream cone true by making the video of you tearing him a new a*s . Get a copy of the video and keep it for documentation if he can . Leave him and stay gone and use this for an example of why you need sole custody. Do not let him get partial or shared custody until she can fend for herself and tell you what's going on and able to contact you if she needs an adult .

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Mikey Kliss
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

ESH would be my answer as well. I'm not a streamer but I do play games when I can and It's my primary hobby but things change when you have kids and that's something both partners need to work on. Plus a 4 hour nap is NOT good for a 7 month old. Should be a few 2 hour naps

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that.bitch.mae
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Okay if the 4 hour nap wasn't good, the husband should've checked on the baby. How is it ESH?

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Penny Lost
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The dude is 35 years old. Thirty-five, for f-s sake! "Ohh, but the poor, poor man wanted to stream, he felt neglected!!111 And it's so unfair! You were just out there, enjoying yourself, having the time of your life shopping for groceries, you selfish hag!!11" Are you kidding me?! Have I mentioned that the dude is THIRTY-FIVE YEARS OLD?? Arrrgh!!

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Brenda
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I regularly shop several grocery stores to save money. Kroger, HEB, Randall's, Fiesta, & El Rancho.I also go to Walmart, Walgreens, CVS, Dollar Tree, Dollar General, Family Dollar and other local places. Some days I'm done in 2-3 hours. Other days I might be out 5-6 hours. Things are tight these days so you have to buy on sale. Different stores have different sales each week. Plus there are the loyalty programs, which take time, thought and planning. 5 grocery stores and 6 others I hit EVERY WEEK, even just to look for clearance items. Just because you don't take that long doesn't mean others don't.

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Robert Hutton
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm a divorced father w/ 1 minor child (14 yr old son) & nothing & on this Earth is more important to me than him. I've turned down job offers that would have doubled my wages because it would cause me to be far away from my child. So I work for less $ & stay here to be near him & have never regretted that decision. That "dad" is a pathetic excuse of a father & a self-absorbed, negligent parent who seems to have already made the decision about what is most important to him & it's not his daughter. He has laid the ground work for his daughter to resent him & want nothing to do with him later in life. The mother has serious issues as well & seems to only care about herself & ensuring that the dad does his parenting job while she has plenty of "me time". Both are hurting their daughter & on the fast track to extramarital affairs, divorce, & causing their daughter lots of emotional pain. They should have waited to have children until they had both emotionally become adults.

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Rachel Page
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What if mom had the dad do the groceries instead of him getting to stream for 4 hours while she stayed at home with baby and changed her once and fed her once, then mom could have taken a nap or called friends went on the computer watched a movie, kinda sucks she instead went out during a time when covid and gun violence is high, and took care of her spouse and child’s food and household grocery needs, but mom is totally getting the best break ever, then let’s not forget now she came home to change another diaper and got yelled at by her spouse after she lectured him about the baby’s care. God forbid she ever expect anything from anyone who is over 18. She should raise the husband and child and never take care of herself people wonder why women snap and end up committing post Partum suicide and infant death. Good job guys for shaming mom & blaming her for the males needs not being met & condemning her for some delusional reason you all think was a hobby but an actuality chores are work

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Elissa H
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I agree she should not be shamed at all! But, I don't think condemning him is okay either. I think she was wrong to not let him stream and he was definitely wrong for being neglectful. But it is hard with a new baby for both parents, so my answer is that clearly they both need some help. They should communicate better so they can both have their needs met (and obviously the child's).

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Maria Adcock
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What? Why is this up for discussion? Taking care of your child is not a “favor”for the mother, it is your responsibility as a parent. If you’re unable to fulfill that duty, you need to seek professional assistance cause that’s what you signed up for that when you conceived a child and need to be prepared at all times. Parenting does not stop for a job, internet blogging or usage, phone posting or other such activities. The word for this is neglect and if this is what is occurring at such an early start, both parents need to seek professional counseling to learn how to manage the relationship and parenting responsibilities. This is not a dig at the mother, but rather a wake up call and an urging for the benefit of the child.

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Flare The Sexy Incubus
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My two parents take hours to shop, what are these people smoking? She's one woman, of COURSE it's gonna take a while..yet y'all are gonna complain while he sat his a*s for a ALSO 4 HOUR "break" and OBVIOUSLY didn't check on his OWN BABY ONCE. His baby was hungry, and in a soiled diaper after the mom SPECIFICALLY told him to watch her and KEPT CALLING TO MAKE SURE HE WAS, BUT HE LITERALLY LIED TO HER, IN THE WORST WAY POSSIBLE. He lied about neglecting his child for 4 hours, disgusting. Also I watch many FAR more popular streamers, and they take pee or poo breaks MULTIPLE times..so..was his daughter starving and wallowing in her dirty diaper less important than a p**s break??? Anyone who defends that man or is against the woman in any way disgusts me. She WAS doing her part! He was ALLOWED to stream, you can stream, AND TAKE CARE OF YOUR CHILLLLDDD!!!

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Billie Cox
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Start by doing a live stream where you apologize for the scene, but inform them he left your baby in a dirty diaper with no food while he was was supposed to be watching the baby. Anton Petrov has a You Tube channel with a great deal more followers. Recently he lost an infant and he let his followers know he would not be adding new content because he and his wife needed to heal. Your husband is just another one of those budding narcissists whose ego is fed by their You Tube antics. He left a baby, his baby, lie hungry and uncomfortable because he wanted to do something all about him. I think you should rethink this. He is never going to be a parent, because then he can no longer indulge himself. Talk to a lawyer and get his advice. Now you know how far he will go to indulge himself and if you take him back and something else happens, it will be on you as well. Your kid comes first now. I am sorry, but your child has only you to count on and your situation will not get better.

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Piper Ryder
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Okay like - yeah sure he needs a mental health break. As someone who often uses video games as an escape and gets so sucked into it I don't realize what's going on I get that. But HE SAID HE WOULD WATCH THE BABY! That's the point! He didn't protest watching her, he didn't say "Hey, could you do this a different time?", He said clearly that he was okay with watching her. Also as someone who gets extremely tunnel-visioned when I play my video games I NEVER play them when I know I have something important that requires immediate and/or continuous attention, because I know I'll forget and zone out. Which is what he should've done. Or else taken advantage of the fact that his wife gave him reminders and go check on her as it came up. If his viewers have a problem with him taking a minute to check on her that's on them.

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Edwin Titus
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sorry that's just poor judgement and skills management. He could have easily put the baby close to him so he can keep an eye or even have a video monitor close to him and watch. The guy stream so no excuse he knows how camera works.Even there he could have done a very light stream with his phone so it's easy to move around. Or just stream another day.

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Eric Elliott
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She was at the grocery store, which, for me, is never a stress-free endeavor. That is not personal time at all. That is done with thought for the family. On top of that, she couldn't even focus entirely on shopping be ause he has given her the impression that she needs to check and make sure that he's doing the most basic tasks of parenting. As a father myself, his guy is a joke of a father. Nothing fills me with more anger toward society than watching other people "parent." So many people treat is as babysitting and it's pathetic. This baby deserves better. I hope his YouTube channel tanks. Hopefully he straightens himself out and starts to understand priorities. Personal time is important, but there is a time for it.

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Drew H
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So something isn't adding up here. First off, she called multiple times and talked to him so I don't think he was as inattentive as she claims because there's no way he would have noticed a phone call if that was the case. Second, the timing of her shopping trip. According to her, he streams weekly. There's not way she wouldn't know when he was planning to do it. From experience, the whole house gets a dose a baby brain there bottle she prepared was untouched but if this is a formula baby there's no reason he couldn't have forgotten about it and prepared a new one if it's pumped then you already know multiples were ready to go. PPD/PPP warning signs. But the biggest red flag is this is a streamer with a 14k audience. Somebody would have clipped that and made him infamous by now.

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Kimberly Wiltshire
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Guy is trash. Basically she has a grumpy teenager and a baby to raise. Get out now if you can.

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sophie burningham
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

To all those harassing the Mum for her shopping trip, it doesn't excuse the neglect she found when she came back and I worry about your own children. Also, going out to buy food for the family does not count as alone time. To the article focusing on communication, she literally tried to help him find the time to stream and work with him for this, and that wasn't good enough for him. She tried. Also, 4 hours to shop depends on factors: A) Where she lives and how she gets to the shop B) How big of a shop it is C) If she is going to multiple shops. At the end of the day, he was the parent in charge of that baby during that time period, and he neglected the baby and was called out live. I am surprised he's even allowed near the baby with how big a safeguarding issue that is. Headphones on, inability to hear the baby for 4 hours straight, while the baby is left. A LOT could have also happened such as a cot death too.

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Chonky
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Shopping for groceries is not "me time". It is a horrible chore. You have to think about the meals for the week, budget, prep time, food preferences and she is most likely exhausted from looking after the baby. Even if the shop is near they are huge and busy. Other people can slow you down, thinking about what to get can slow you down, queuing at the check out can slow you down, putting stuff in the truck etc. etc. 4 hours is not unreasonable at all. Clearly, men have never planned breakfast lunch and dinner for 2 people on a budget. He didn't hear her shouting, he wouldn't have heard the baby if she was screaming. This sounds like an ongoing issue between them that came to a head with him being very immature and prioritising his streaming and her feeling he is not doing enough to help her with the baby. They need counseling.

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Leesa DeAndrea
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think they are both wrong. Her for screaming at him while he was live streaming. Him for neglecting his baby & lying about it. They could probably use some family counseling.

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CrisLei Fan
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A 4 hour grocery trip is not necessarily unreasonable and shouldn't be classified as "personal" time. Taking a 7 month old grocery shopping on a lengthy trip is just not practical. I think somewhere in the post she mentioned them planning a time in their schedule when he could do his live stream. He could have hyped it on his channel as an upcoming thing. Instead it seems like he tried to do something sneaky behind her back, lying when he knew she was concerned. We as parents all need mental health breaks, but our children cannot be ignored in that. Heck, I have watched GOT live streams with dogs acting crazy in the background...a baby would be no biggie. Either way both parties need to communicate better for the sake of their daughter.

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DiaMedia
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A 4 hour shopping is really possible, and one solution i can suggest to the OP, check his live stream and see if he really checked on your daughter... That is if he didn't deleted it.. bye

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Junebugjump!
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Man, this hits home. My ex-husband never solo parented our child. This was an ongoing issue which led to divorce. Men need to step up or women need to live in collectives without them. My husband needed things from 4 different stores — one of them Costco. When I did the shopping, it could take 4 hours. He never did the shopping, but would tick things off an Excel spreadsheet. He knew where I was going, but would expect me to take my son. This went on for decades. I finally told him he had to take on the shopping. Mind you, I had a career, too. All my needs were marginalized while he went to work or played video games. If this is your life: run now. Let them do all the work and parenting full time, 50% of the time. At least you get your life back. I wish I’d liberated myself sooner.

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Stephen Scott
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

YATA! Too many people are focused on what he did wrong for this to have happpened seals volumes that this man is very unhappy with his life. And in my opinion should seek counseling and therapy. Soiled diapers and a bottle that he probably fed the kid all of it then refilled just in case. You failed as a wife. A real wife would have cleaned up and spoken to him or simply left the house for a few days. Till he got to his senses. You’re secretly happy and unapologetic to his needs trumping the kid and yours over his. I get the feeling that he loves his family yet feels like he’s unappreciated and being looked over by everyone in his life. So next time you come on social media playing the im a woman pity party card. Don’t! You further embarrass him by going to social media the want place he felt like he could go too because let’s face it you…YOU ARENT THERE AND NEVER WERE FOR HIM!

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Dollie Nicholls
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was surprised to read that her grocery trip took 4 hrs. He was probably thinking... baby's asleep and all good, I can do some streaming, not expecting mom to be gone that long. Also, clearly his need for mental health time wasn't veing met. I believe she was ramping up her anger before getting there since she kept texting and calling and didn't believe what he said. They are both humans, new parents, and trying to balance life. It's hard.

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Margaret Weaver
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What on EARTH was this poor woman thinking, breeding with such a developmentally stunted manchild?! Castrate and evict, please. If you carry to term, caring for the child is not a matter of convenience, choice, or even freedom. BOTH OF YOU brought it into this world. You can no more tie a baby to a tree in a forest and abandon it when it's not convenient anymore, than you could do a puppy that's grown into a huge dog, or a teacup piglet that grew into a hog three times your weight. Honestly parents that complain their child is inconvenient make me SO irate, but then to see that last YTA response from that "werewolf" character, was just too much. "His time to stream" indeed... If any son of mine did that I'd drive down and throw him out of his own house THAT SAME DAY. How DARE this infantile sack of.... I think I'll go take a walk or something, cool off a bit. Enough internet for one day. That poor woman's mother in law must be MORTIFIED.

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Amber Suttle
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What an interesting conversation. A four hour shopping trip is not Me time, it is buying food, toiletries, household items. I have two kids and shopping take a me four hours because I don't shop weekly, I shop monthly. My husband is a gamer, and plays video games while watching kids, but they are in the same room as him. Personally, he should have taken a break to check on her and when she woke, he should have changed her and brought her into his office. People love children. My girls watch a lot of YouTube where the parents incorporated their children into the streams. It probably could have boosted his channel by having her with him

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Julie Hoefer
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

while I do agree that 4 hours is a bit much- my guess is the mom knew her man was sketchy, hence the public post.... HEY MOM- you already know this guy is lacking in more ways then 'DAD'ing.....stop looking for stranger sympathy and pack your things....take your daughter and yourself, and start over. Or wait it out and ask us more advice when your life is gone and your 7 month old suddenly turns 15 and is stuck in the same common sense ignorance you live in.....

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Allison Kessel
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I dont understand how shopping trip could be called taking a break. I don't have a baby an hate shopping. Not to mention people saying 4 hours is crazy, not really. If theres food allergies or specifics needed sometimes you cant get them all at one store. From my personal experience I was looking for one thing for dinner (i have many allergies an just can't stomach some food) an it took 4 different store to find. Not to mention he wasn't watching HIS child. He helped create the baby, hes responsible to help watch her.

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Fernanda Abreu
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This idiot will soon stop whining because his wife's scene is something everybody would appreciate witnessing on a livestream lol Most likely his channel will boost in subscribers. Haven't you guys noticed that trash is what gets people coming nowadays?

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Ms A
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As a woman that was once a WoW “widow”, I can certainly feel for this woman. Also, as someone that’s been through a “marriage” with a “man” with an online addiction, it won’t change unless HE wants to change. 20 years later, my ex is on his 3rd marriage and still plays online games for hours at a time. His only child (our daughter) is 19 and she won’t have anything to do with him… he’s selfish and childish. And yes, it CAN in fact take 4 hours to run errands/grocery shop. If you have a stack of coupons… reading details of each coupon to make sure you’re going to get said savings takes time. Not only that, but there’s recently been a formula shortage… how long did it take her to find formula? To me, going to a pharmacy to get some necessities, then to a large grocery store (think Kroger, Walmart, etc.) where it’s almost always busy af, will take a lot of time, period. One possible solution to long grocery trips though is online ordering for pick-up, less stressful.

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Derek Jones
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Derek Jones. What I fail to understand is all the Liberal muppets supporting the poor woman's ungrateful drip of a husband. They must all be in the same club, "tick turds United" 24 hours in a day take off 8 hours for sleep that's 16 hours to contact his fans! So his wife went shopping for 4 hours (how many shops did she need to visit to get food for the ahole? You can guarantee he can't unstick his backside from his chair, does she also have to change his diaper I wonder? Give him 9 lace holes my girl, he doesn't deserve you. And give a finger to his idiot supporters they do deserve him as chairman of the "tick turd United association ".

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Carl Holleman
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I find it very concerning that so many people fancy themselves "Influencers" or "Streamers"...It fills a weird void that people have..they enjoy being "worshipped" and followed. Very strange. Really life trumps any online presence. If it's his "job" then it should be done when and if the child is being cared for. The internet has doomed us.

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Kimberly Quinn
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is not a father. This is a sperm donner. Time to kick him to the curb.

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Billy godd
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Both parents neglected her. Maybe dad had checked & thought she was fine. Maybe he has a mental/emotional condition we don't know about. The mother should be less concerned with who's right & make it right for the baby. What already occurred doesn't matter, it's how are you going to make it better going forward? Figure out a way to not be gone half the day when you shop. Make it two shorter trips instead of one or have some of it delivered. It sounds like neither parent is supportive of each other. NEVER tear down your partner. The child will absolutely internalize it that they are the problem & it can create lifelong damage to their psyche & self-worth. Mom holds all the power in this situation. She can choose to hold her family together & make her spouse feel better about himself or she can tear him down & the family apart, damaging the child in process.

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Billy godd
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Both parents neglected her. Maybe dad had checked & thought she was fine. Maybe he has a mental/emotional condition we don't know about. The mother should be less concerned with who's right & make it right for the baby. What already occurred doesn't matter, it's how are you going to make it better going forward? Figure out a way to not be gone half the day when you shop. Make it two shorter trips instead of one or have some of it delivered. It sounds like neither parent is supportive of each other. NEVER tear down your partner. The child will absolutely internalize it as they are the problem & it can create lifelong damage to their psyche & self-worth. Mom holds all the power in this situation. She can choose to hold her family together & make her spouse feel better about himself or she can tear him down & the family apart, damaging the child in process.

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Cj Mk
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wow, divorce is so easy for the flimsiest of issues, for some people, it seems. No wonder there are very wealthy legal firms.

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Lynn H
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I had to run errands today and it took me well over 4 hours. And I still didn't get to the grocery store. I had my kid with me too. I don't understand how anyone would think she's the a*****e. The dad needs to take care of his kid. Or he should do the grocery shopping. Streaming is not how you fix mental health. Therapy is. If he's that miserable being in his RL then he definitely needs help.

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Mark Laprise
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's really sad how weak and selfish people have become; hiding behind "mental health" or "discrimination" or "sexism", etc. These are ALL important, valid issues that need to be addressed but NOT abused and used to excuse pathetic selfish behavior.

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Amy Pontious
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Op please get away from little boy,he prefers to act like a child! This is a BIG ABUSE! If I was a friend or family and I found out about this I would call child services. Your husband is not going to change so for the safety of your child and yourself get away from him!

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Joshua Neal
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

First, there's a lack of information here. I'd need to know how long his daughter was awake for, before I'd shout abuse. I've seen mothers n fathers alike, doing their best, not meet the lofty standards of outside perspectives. I find it far more likely that the child is not neglected than is neglected. Most parents DONT neglect their kids. I'm a father. I have a daughter. Seeing sadness in her eyes shatters my heart. I would dare say this man feels the same. So let's be reasonable. Love doesn't mean he isn't capable of being selfish. Her either. Sounds like he tried squeezing some mental health time in, whe his daughter was asleep. I highly doubt she was long awake, hungry, or soiled. It also sounds like her extended shopping time may have been a similar attempt to squeeze a tiny bit of mental health out of a time otherwise meant for responsibility. He sounds immature and whiny. She sounds controlling and jealous. Their relationship is the problem. They're both probably good parents.

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Eaton Kuntz
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She's got issues. Husband sounds like a great dad. I'm sure he's proud of the baby on his stream, especially if he's on there to socialize. A guy like that wouldn't ignore his baby. Also, she sounds mad cuz he didn't do exactly what she said. OP doesn't say whether the baby actually needed attention. Just that he was streaming while the baby napped. And we're supposed to assume he neglected the baby while she was a really hard-working parent. I was raised by a mother like that. Cleverly ignoring facts, just to look like the victim and get pity.

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Creature Cargeaux
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I live 45 minutes from the nearest grocery store. I can't even go get eggs without it atleast taking 2.5 hours in traffic. Like.... wtf. It's not that insane. Not everyone lives in a big city or even suburbs

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Julie Froehling
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I cant believe how many folks are dragging this poor dad! He would have come if baby cried or was in distress. Babies do wake up with overfull diapers and just hang out looking around the room chillin in their cribs for a while. This is glorious bonus time for parents to wrap up what they are doing! She blew up her marriage and his rep in a public forum and took his daughter away from him over 1 single soggy diaper. She seems like she was stressed in that moment but really needs to apologize to dad so they can go back to practicing how to be parents. Newborns are tough to navigate!

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Poh_tatoes
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Do you really think he'd hear the baby crying if apparently he didn't even hear his wife come home despite her yelling at him?

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Julie Froehling
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I cant believe how many folks are dragging this poor dad! He would have come if baby cried or was in distress. Babies do wake up with overfull diapers and just hang out looking around the room chillin in their cribs for a while. This is glorious bonus time for parents to wrap up what they were doing! "Completely unattended" seems an inappropriate description of what she found. She blew up her marriage and his rep in a public forum and took his daughter away from him over 1 single soggy diaper. She seems like she was stressed in that moment but really needs to apologize to dad so they can go back to practicing how to be parents. Newborns are tough to navigate!

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Gail Lynn
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She's NTA!! She probably did just more than grocery shopping. She might have had to stop at the bank, post office, pharmacy, etc. She probably had a whole list of errands & such to do... I know for my hubby & I to get groceries...it's a 40 minute drive one way to a decent shopping place. So we add in all the other errands we need to get done. He can't care for HIS BABY for 4 hours? He couldn't change her, feed her & keep her occupied with him? Maybe share her (not showing her face necessarily) with his followers? This would probably make him "more human"/approachable. AND HE LIED TO HIS WIFE!! ABOUT THEIR CHILD'S WELL-BEING!!! UNACCEPTABLE!!! He is TA.....

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courtney cook
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I can completely relate to how she feels, me and my ex have a child together and I left him for very similar reasons. I would work on the weekends when he was off, I had to leave work on multiple occasions due to the fact that he wouldn't be answering me at 2-3 in the afternoon, or have a family member or friend check on him & her to only find that he is passed out fast asleep on the couch and she still has the same diaper on from early that morning, as well as she got older and able to move around my brother went by my house to find my daughter going through the upstairs closet while he was asleep. I completely understand why she is upset and until you have it happen to you, you will never understand. I couldn't even go grocery shopping for an HR half before he would fall asleep. End of story I left 3 years ago.

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Annie Steele
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Does he get paid? If not, disconnect the internet and wifi, tell him he doesn't need his ego stroked by 14,000. Strangers when he is neglecting his wife and child.

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kallie barrett
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I fear for this child. I think OP married a big one, and she herself is sketchy if she can leave for 4 hours and only call to check in when she likely knows what isn't going on at home.

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Kimberly Anderson
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ok, first of all who goes to the grocery store and stays there for 4 hours, unless you going from grocer to grocer. Secondly, you should have a better schedule because of the baby. Most, I said most men are not reliable when it comes to the needs of children being met fully, especially if they have something going on(the man). Yes you were very wrong because I am pretty sure that you did not just find out that day that your husband was unreliable. If he is that unreliable and she was supposedly asleep, I can only imagine when she is awake and demanding her needs be taken care of. I don't agree with either of you. I don't care what is going on or needs to be done, baby is first priority. Always.

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Logan Johnson
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Honestly with only the information given that OP is TA in the situation, and obviously left out details so that she would have others think the same. The amount of jumping to conclusions with what little information there is honestly astounds me. They didn't specify how long he was streaming, when the last time she called was, how long it normally takes to shop. IF the father was actually streaming the entire 4 hours he's TA easily. If it was longer than the last phone call? He lied and is TA sure. If it was less than 30 minutes then he wasn't. We can make every scenario in the world we want to fit our situations, but the fact that critical information was left out should say more than most people can read. This sounds more along the lines of bashing somebody's hobbies and coping mechanisms than a father being neglectful to their child. Because if we want to go the the extreme of the father being neglectful then its only fair to give him the benefit of the doubt with this info.

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Antoine Jones
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The trick is not to have a child if you don't wanna take care of it. Not hard. I wouldn't wanna take care of a child either, which is why I have not and will not be getting anyone pregnant. Like really, its not that hard.

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Lu Jackson Mayer
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

How many people do not actually run more than one errand at multiple stores? Why is this a foreign concept? Four hours at Target? Yes it has happened.

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Lynn Marie O'Connor
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What's next he's gonna forget he brings her to an errand or daycare,leave her in the car to die a horrible heat wave death. ? He needs to go to 'addiction' councelling. They have it for those addicted to games, social media platforms. This is neglect.

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Rachel Page
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Regardless of the situation leaving a child in a poopy diaper leads to uti. My daughter got hospitalized and very sick as an infant due to her not being changed immediately, the nurses and doctors gave me and my spouse a whole lot of info about utis they are actually pretty bad when it comes to stool going into the urethra, it’s so painful for the little ones. Luckily it sounds like the 7 month old was okay. But saying it’s okay to leave a child soiled for hours I guarantee you if you talk to child services or a pediatrician they may look at you crazy or schedule a meeting health risks are never acceptable for children it’s a must to do our best accidents happen but I wouldn’t encourage a habit of hours of leaving your child without food and changed diaper. I also have 10 years of child care experience, and my child had a catheter put on her while she screamed in pain because she was lethargic and not eating and had a fever from uti, & changed her every 30 mins, prior. So 4 hrs? Really.

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Plucky Hero
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wanted to flag issues getting obscured by length of grocery shopping. I am going to assume this is in USA due to term grocery shopping used. I am concerned that both or either parent might be struggling with emotional problems. Seems communication and team work has broken down at very least probably due to being overwhelmed by having a new child. Could be gas lighting or unsupported post natal depression / similar issue going on both are serious can huge impact on mother or child. Guy could be a good or bad guy though the are going to be similar situations where the will be good / bad guys. So great calling out or questioning worrying behaviour. Though important guys get emotional and mental care suicide is big killer of guys under 50. These situations would be helped by support network assisting and giving respite sounds like they might not getting a lot of outside help. Other countries have support nurses / maternity leave that can protect against parents getting overwhelmed , etc.

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Mae Peterson
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is exactly what they make baby monitors for and if he had been using one I don't think she would have flipped out. On top of that it can realistically take 4 hours to get groceries even with a list. All stores don't have the same layout or carry the same product. Say that her regular store was out of something they needed (ie diapers in right size for a child that can only use the one brand) so she needed to go to a different store that she doesn't know well. Heaven forbid that the closest store that had them in stock was more than 30 minutes away. I have to go to stores 30+ minutes out of the way because the closest stores don't have a product that we use name brand and off brand. He said he was going to watch his child, if he didn't want to he should have asked her to take the kid with her. He is 100% the AH for that reason alone. She doesn't mention a baby monitor at all and I will be looking on redit for this one but I don't believe they had one because it wasn't mentioned.

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Raghib Abdul-Shakoor
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There is a time and place for everything, taking care of his infant daughter was top priority than live streaming, his wife’s anger was completely justified, nothing else matters period, his actions were extremely irresponsible and neglectful.

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Jack Wolf
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Neither of these turds should have children. All of this sounds like two immature individuals who try to hang responsibly on each other. Grow up.

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Martin Nwafor
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No matter how y’all stress that she was on a 4hr grocery run, the man is still at fault because at least she was calling to know if the child is okay, that man is just a lazy person, it wouldn’t take you max 30mins to change and feed a baby. But he couldn’t do it instead he lied that the baby was okay, whenever the wife called. If you can’t see that the man is wrong, that’s on you and your mentality.

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Linda Santiago
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Notice all the comments talk about how long the wife was gone. Dude clearly neglected his child. How does this fall back on her ? Wtf

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Neelie Oliver
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Everyone saying "4 hour grocery shopping is suspicious" obviously has not grocery shopped in their LIFE. I've been at the grocery store for upwards of 5-6 hrs before. If one store doesn't have what you need you have to find alternatives. Specific stores running sales. Refilling gas. And she's got a 7 mo old so yeah, diapers and other baby supplies are definitely going to factor in too. Plus having to find a place that sells formula. And loading it all into the car by yourself takes ages.

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Swear Wolfe
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Honestly the whole thing is f*****g stupid. Everyone should be setting up a schedule after the baby is born so mom and dad both can have their alone time for their mental health. It's extremely important that they both use the brains they were given and work together or the relationship is already over.

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Van Culpepper
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'd like to know if this was an isolated event? Accidents happen. And any of you moms out there who want to act like you never forget or procrastinate changing a diaper or feeding your child .....please. Real life issues here. Goes beyond a one sided estrogen diatribe on a guy who probably is as stressed as she is and is a good dad most of the time. Act like you care about your man.

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Christopher Boyd
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I see a lot of division along gender lines here, not all, BUT A LOT, I would like to hear HIS side of the story before I go making any assumptions. Some of you just gonna take her word for it and call do everything but a child of God. I don’t care how much you have in common with her plight, you ought to get both sides. Perhaps the truth will lie in between both of their stories. Just crazy how some of you are quick to pick a side… BTW I gotta bridge in Brooklyn I wanna sell if you’re that quick to believe…

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Rasheeda Shaheen
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

How is her shopping a mental health break, if she was having one than she wouldn't have called and checked up on the baby. What that mean is she still was being a parent to her baby even outside of the house the baby was on her mind. Having a mental health break is clearing your mind of all issues. I would love to have one haven't had one for over 20 years now.

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Anthony Jones
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why is not one idiot pointing out while she's at work he watches her and not once did she have this issue before. She's got a guilty conscience and is making him the bad guy. Women and logic do not go hand in hand

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Rasheeda Shaheen
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Everyone who wants to attack her wants to say she is overreacting. How? You should always have a baby close to you. Babies are very quick all it took was a minute. I am sure mom knows her baby. She knows how long the Baby naps and when the Baby eat. At 7 months you should know your baby's schedule. He probably never helps her out.

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Rasheeda Shaheen
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Shopping is not a mental health thing. When I go shopping I am usually gone for a good amount of hours. Stressing trying to budget and make sure I have everything we need. When I get home from shopping I am whipe out and just want to climb in bed and go to sleep. His response to her about what was more important tells it all. His you tube page is more important. Get over yourself grow up I am sure she is going through way more stress than he is I am sure she needs to find a group of mom's for support and mental health support. If you don't understand what being pregnant does to you even after giving birth than you will not understand where she is coming from. Husband's needs to grow up stop down playing the hell a woman goes through just to have a baby. He should make sure she is okay and the baby. He want a mental health break get a therapist. What he is going through is no where near where she is going through. Too many babies or getting injure or even dying because dad wants to

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Rasheeda Shaheen
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Be on social media. If you don't want kids and want your mental health days don't have sex period. The world of social media is leading to more neglect from a parent with a child. People like him treats a child like it's a doll baby or a puppy nice to show off and look at. She was so in the right.

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Rasheeda Shaheen
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Understand this people you can tell if the a baby just woke up or have been up and if he didn't hear his wife calling him he wouldn't hear the baby crying if she would have a woke up. Rather or not if the baby woke up means nothing. You should never leave a baby in a room by their self and do something that takes your attention off of them. Anything could have a happen. Maybe God gave her that feeling to get home before something did happen. How about wait until the wife got home and go into the office and do your live. O yeah for all you retards you can tell if a baby just went to the bathroom or been wet for a while. Especially on a little girl. What 7 month old do you know stays a sleep that long without eating or being fed. NOT once did he state he did check on her he was just mad because she made him look like an a** in front of people. I am sure she has other reasons to be snapping. Maybe eveytime she needs him to help with the baby he is crying about his schedule and his wan

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Rasheeda Shaheen
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Reality when it comes to a baby get off the internet until you are no longer the only adult in the house. I am sure she don't get to have a break.

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Adrienne McMillan
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Listen. Doing household errands like grocery shopping, alone or not, is not a break!! This mom wasn't on a nice break at all. I grocery shop long too so 4 hours is understandable to me. Especially if you consider traffic, the distance, multiple stores with multiple lines, or even one store (lines have been so long since the pandemic hit.) Moms, all parents, deserve real breaks and running errands isn't that. The husband was neglectful to not even check on the baby for hours. A diaper change takes no time at all, less than 5 minutes. There is no excuse to ignore her hunger either. Doesn't seem like she was crying from hunger when the mom got home but he wouldn't know that since it seems he wasn't checking on her. He should have been responsible enough to care for his child and stream, or wait until they fit a session into their schedule. I would be so upset with him, I would be considering never going back. He can't be trusted. Forgot my foot!

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Alexandra Stevens
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Those of you that are giving this mother c**p for being at the store for 4 hours. 1. Have you ever been to a Costco in the middle of the day? 2. They have an infant….odds are she had to go to MULTIPLE stores to get everything needed for the family. It’s not exactly easy to find time to shop with an infant, even with both parents involved. 3. Depending on where they live, the closest stores could be a twenty minute to a half hour drive away. Just the trip there and back can total up to an hour 4. The mother trusted the father to do the BARE NECESSITIES of parenting which is to make sure the baby’s diaper is changed and fed…..as a streamer, my families needs will always come first. Always. But no you all are worried about a 4 hour grocery shopping spree

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Rojudrws
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Hes a disgusting person and his "mental health" is not an excuse to neglect his child. Hes the AH.

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Ikms Teehee
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think The husband is TA because he could have at least waited for when the wife got back home to live stream. And not when there was no one else to take care of the baby except him.

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Zan Xolo
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Stop trying to have your husband act as a second subordinate mom. Support their success and betterment as you raise your children. That is your natural role as a woman. You chose to hen peck your husband to death thus creating the situation that provided you the opportunity to attack and destroy his work. You created this damage. It is 100 percent on you. Now your withholding your daughter as punishment. What a weak self centred spirit you are. You are the problem. Think deeply on this truth and become a better wife, mother, human.

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Zan Xolo
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sounds like she is a control freak who has no respect for her husband and used the situation with the child to attack and destroy something that her husband valued. This is what happens when woman expect men to emasculate themselves by becoming a second subordinate mom. Take care of your child. Support your man’s success and betterment. This woman’s arrogance and shirking of her motherly responsibility is shockingly apparent.

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JoElla Kleinhesselink
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"going to town" to grocery shop is a 45 minute trip (I live in a rural area) that's an hour and a half right there gone. 2.5 hours to do the actual shopping isn't crazy, especially if it is a long trip then you don't go as often and need to stock up more. Also, her grocery shopping is a chore, not leisure. She was doing it for the entire family and it's a necessary action. That is not what is wrong here. He's a terrible parent for not watching over the child, I hope he atleast had a baby monitor in view... But at the same time, I don't think that finding an hour to live stream should be that difficult. She should have found some time in the evening to look after the child while he live stream should have been easy. P.s., the people who are saying she should of brought the child with her are living in the 1950s. Raising a child is the responsibility of both parents. Him watching a child for a few hours is not a hardship on his end, and if he feels it is then you have a bigger problem.

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Rebecca Kinney-Strange
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

First, they made the agreement of looking at their schedule to make sure he had time to stream live. Second, as stated by many others, why so long for groceries? Third, also as many others pointed out, you don't know when the kid woke up. At that age, if hungry, they'd be crying. However, I don't know if he could've heard it from where he was in the house. I do think that she could have waited for him to mute the mic before going off on him while he was live. I wouldn't have done that regardless. In the end, I think they both are at fault for different reasons and need to be able to schedule his streaming time and her errands accordingly so that this does not happen again. Take it as a learning experience and go from there. They're both at fault for different reasons when you get down to it. Since this is the first kid, it's certainly okay to make mistakes. The child wasn't harmed by this. All that got hurt was her feelings, her trust and confidence in him, his feelings & pride.

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David O.P.
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When you decide to have children things MUST change. If streaming is his release and hobby that is fine, but it CAN NOT come before his family. This guy is too immature to be a parent, and doesn't even see what he did as wrong.

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Dr. Gonzo
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The YTA are exactly right. The absolute hypocrisy and entitlement from females is getting to be a big fn problem. They want EVERYTHING handed to them regardless of their behaviors or actions, without respecting or thinking about anybody else's. It's fn disgusting and hypocritical, and is just more piling on of the female double fn standards.

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Jessica Thomas-Coats
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She should have acknowledged her husband's cires for help. Me and my husband have been in this situation where he comes home and my daughter, if she is a sleeping, would usually wake up daddy come home from work. Idk how she would know because it would be different times. But wife did over react. But let's face it we have all over reacted at some time or another. To me is sound like both of you wanted a break and if wife makes th schedule she needs to make sure he has time fo his leisure a well. We don't have tons of followers or anything but me and my husband both play video games and run guilds and clubs on games. And social networks for the clubs. And have to coordinate events. My husband generally does the grocery shopping. Or we all go together. But it sounds like you both needed a mental break and you could talk about it and work it out better to get you both what you need instead of focus in on just one.

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Munnin
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There's certainly a parade of incels in these comments.

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Zach X
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So much assumptions, dude could had a baby monitor setup to keep tabs on the baby, and the baby could have been napping the entire time. You people are insane with the speculation simply because the OP was upset. The only proof we have in this situation is that the wife acted terribly to a situation that she was obviously very controlling of. We have NO PROOF of anything the dad was doing, yet vilify him? S**t is crazy. INNOCENT till proven guilty doesn't end when one person gets louder than the other.

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Joshua Cartagena
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Instead of fighting over this couldnt she just have gone through his stream and seen if he had ever actually stood up to go check on the baby? There’s a good chance that the baby was asleep the entire time, every child does act differently but more than likely would be crying if they were hungry or uncomfortable from the full diaper.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It does not matter what she was doing. Wait. For the record, I can take 4 hours for grocery shopping because it's it's minimum 15 minutes to the store and I shop in more than one store. On top of that, I only shop every 2 weeks so so 4 hours is not dramatic. That bring said.... He took his anger at his WIFE out on their baby. HE NEGLECTED HIS SEVEN MONTH OLD CHILD BECAUSE HIS PANTIES WERE IN A KNOT AT HIS WIFE. Let's change the scenario a bit... wife goes out, he's mad, kid is 10, asks for a snack, interrupts husband. Husband mad because he wanted wife to take kid with her, so he beats the he.l.l out of the kid with a belt.... would those of you defending this negligent douche bag be okay with that? OR instead of hitting the kid, he locks the kid in a closet.....? HE NEGLECTED HIS SEVEN MONTH OLD CHILD IN A PETULANT TANTRUM.

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Tiffany Callis
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So, where I live at now it's only like a 5 to 7 minute drive to Walmart and a foodlion. But where I use to live it took 30 minutes to get there, no matter what way I went. Plus people need to understand that maybe she hasn't been to the store in a bit due to work or something. People are quick to judge and we don't know both sides. But no matter what, even if she did take a "mental break" and left the child with the father. It gives him no justice for neglecting her for 4 hours js.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

my mom takes 3-4 hours in doing grocery, so i dont think accusing the women would be appropriate

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GayBoi
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I love how people act like 4 hours is a long time to shop. It's really normal, actually.

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Leslie Agostino
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I go shopping once every 2 weeks cuz I hate being around people. I combine grocery shopping with clothes shopping and a bite to eat. Yes it can go 4 hours if she was shopping for other necessities.

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Scourge McCloud
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I agree with some of the comments. Yeah she was gone for four hours, but as a father, it's just as much of your responsibility to take care of the child as it the mothers. If you can't even take a break from streaming to check up on the child, you're not a father, you're a man child sperm donor who just wanted the sex without the responsibility that came with it.

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Shayla Katherina
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Her husband is absolutely TA for leaving his baby unattended for that long. When given the ultimatum, your kids come first, not your followers. It's not like his wife didn't let him know several times what he was supposed to be doing. And even though it's not an excuse, the wife could have done a better job of prioritizing free time for her husband to livestream and giving him a definite answer if it means that much to him. We all have hobbies that keep us sane and spouses should support each other to allow for mental health time. Saying "we'll look at the schedule and see if we can make it happen," is basically saying it's going on the back burner indefinitely.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I feel that the people that put a YTA or ESH need a reality check. First of all ,going to do groceries is not a "me time", having to drive ALL the way to go to several stores, carry all the stuff that you bought and organizing it on the car, wich brings me to the second point, yes, you can take the baby with you but EVERYONE knows is way easier to go alone. COMMON sense. While she's doing groceries, the least he can do is stay home and keep an eye on the baby. If this is so difficult for him then next time she can stay at home with the baby and he can do groceries. If he has anxiety or whatever, he should go and look for professional help, because a baby needs full attention and if he cannot handle it then really look for help. The woman cannot be doing everything at the house, she needs his help and support. She told him that they would talk about when he can do the "live stream" because they have a lot going on right now. If you ask me he sounds like a 25 years old.

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Denise Painter
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Doesn't matter if he needed a break. Doesn't matter that she was gone four hours. There is only one thing that matters: She told him she was leaving and he agreed to watch the baby while she was gone. And he apparently didn't. End of story. When you take on a responsibility and then don't do it, YTA. When you agree to take care of an infant, and then don't do it, you're a really big *ssh*l* and should rethink your life choices. If you are the Mom of this kid, you NEVER leave your kid alone in his care again. Because you know he lies so you can't trust him. If he lied about caring for the baby, what else is he lying about?

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Tree P
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She probably took so long because she was trying to find baby formula. Also, count in traffic and long lines due to shortage of workers, four hours is not long.

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Shanta Kamath
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes, the husband was wrong not to care for the baby when only he could. What would be a constructive way to respond to that so the baby would have the care needed and each parent could go from striving to thriving in the family? I didn't read anything about changing and feeding the baby or putting the groceries away before charging in on the show. To me, making sure those things were done and that I had time to process and get prepared for a constructive conversation would have been the way to go. If he gets money from YouTube, he was humiliated at his job in front of thousands of people in what *may* have been an overreaction, as others have explained. If the baby just woke up and was okay and he could have wrapped up to tend to her in the next moment, what you did was abusive and undermined his income as well as as his self-esteem. That hurts the whole family including your child. I kicked my husband out for this and single parenting was not easier. A family is on the same team.

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Patton Kinzel
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It sounds like mom was taking advantage of "no baby time" too! He was absolutely in the wrong but if he is telling you that he needs a mental health break; you shouldn't take a 4 hour shopping trip! You knew he was at a "breaking point" meaning he "needed" that break.... 4 hours, come on you apparently needed that break too! You were both neglecting that baby! He wasn't caring for her properly but you left her with him, obviously concerned or you wouldn't have continued calling like you did; which in turn is also neglect! Get on the same f***** page before you guys seriously hurt that innocent child THAT YOU BOTH DECIDED TO BRING INTO THIS DAMN WORLD!

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Wyneta Levine
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why have children if you think only of yourselves and what you want both need to grow up

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Someone Important
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

BOTH of them need to grow up. He needs to pay more attention and she needs to learn boundaries of what is and isn't public information.

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Colin Timp
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She did mention that the kid was asleep. We don't have the whole story here. Was the kid crying when she got home? How long was the child awake? Some people seem to think that if you're not paying attention to your children every minute they're awake, that somehow you're a bad parent. Also, how many times do you call your significant other while grocery shopping??? Sounds like there's some other issues with this relationship!

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Esiaa
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

ESH in my opinion. They clearly have communication issues and should sit down and talk things through. Or better yet, each of them need to take a few hours off each week (different days) for themselves and make a schedule out of it. That way one parent will have time to relax, the other will keep an eye on the child.

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Marilyn Russell
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He shouldn’t be “live-streaming” while he is looking after his daughter - period.

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Lunar
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That's why I take those parents live streaming their families and babies with a pinch of salt. The probability of them showing a 'perfect' or fun family for YT is high.

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Candice Cook
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If you feel like you can't leave your partner alone and responsible for your child for any length of time without constantly checking up on them, there's already a problem. Either, you've seen that they aren't responsible enough for the task or you've got some other issue that needs to be addressed asap if you want it to work. Personally, I've been there done that with an irresponsible partner and if you feel that way now, you're likely always gonna feel that way so you might as well move on now or accept that you'll be shouldering the majority of the responsibility and ALL the resentment.

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Janice Parks
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He arranged for the time with followers. Is getting a sitter for that time out of the question?

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Wonderful
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Just cause the door was shut doesn't mean he was neglecting her. Baby monitors are here just for that. Why call him constantly it's almost like you expected him to fail. I bet he made a bottle went to give it saw she was asleep and went to play games. She woke, pooped, did baby things without crying and then you came in and assumed she was being neglected. Diaper rash? Crying? Poo smeared everywhere? No. Mom is tired and wants to get away for a few hours. Ok no prob. Husband wants to play games while his kids asleep. Ok no prob. They need to work on their communication and also it seems both are barely hanging on to this relationship. Which makes sense with a child that age. Mom give dad some space to breathe, dad give mom some space, baby be baby.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

An infant that hasn't been fed in 4 hours is neglected. He didn't hear his wife call out for him so he wouldn't have heard a baby monitor either. Clearly the husband had way too much space if he can't even parent for 4 measly hours! Of course she expected him to fail, which he did, big time. She should know, she's married to the man-child.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't quite understand - the child was fine? Awake but not in distress? Then I don't understand the fuss. Would he have heard his daughter crying? Also, is this Youtube channel his livelyhood or part of it? Sorry, but this is too generic and too many information missing to establish an opinion for me. The wife sounds rather controlling to me about what he is allowed to do and when.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You're delusional. The infant was not fine. It was starving and stewing in a soiled diaper. It should have been fed twice during that time. The fact that he doesn't take care of his daughter and leaves it all up to her doesn't make her, controlling. He does get time to do what he wants, just not while he is in charge with caring for their child. No, he wouldn't hear the baby cry just like he couldn't hear his wife calling for him. Taking care of an infant is work. You don't leave work for four hours and wonder why you're boss is mad. Well, maybe YOU do, but it's ridiculous. He clearly doesn't want to be a father so he shouldn't have.

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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was of the opnion that the husband was the only AH in this story but the but the comments calling out the mother for ignoring the husband's requests for some time to stream made me reconsider.

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Say What
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She checked in with him multiple times and the husband had no problem with it so why do you? I'd bet money she continued to get errands done because her man-child husband never pulls his weight so she never gets out of the house, just like he couldn't even pull his weight for a few hours here. He clearly isn't a parent.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This woman is obviously a Karen Amber Heard and he needs to divorce her. She’s using grocery shopping as an excuse to get time out of the house away from doing what she is forcing him to do. She could have used an app to order her groceries for pickup, so she didn’t have to spend 4 hours walking around the store picking them out. That’s just suspicious. He also should be allowed to stream while taking care of your little b@stard child. She obviously just enjoys telling him no and preventing him from having any hobbies or enjoyment in his life. He needs to stand up for himself, backhand her across the face and tell her he’s going to divorce her for being such a selfish b—ch.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wtf is wrong with you? Could you manage to sound any more like an jerkass troll?

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Damn, I feel bad for that guy being married to her. She sounds like a controlling Karen-esque b—ch.

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Anthony Jones
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

All these stupid a** women defending the mom. First off mothers are not default better parents. Secondly i like to game in my downtime When my first child was born i didn't have time. In fact I didn't game for two years. We had Two kids back to back my wife was unable to work then had PPD. We didn't have a car so when I get off work I come home check on her and the kids then walk to the grocery store. 25 mins walk grocery shopping for the week for all of us 1hr walking back trying to carry all the bags. Didn't take me 4hrs. I needed a mental health break but couldn't afford it. God gave me the strength I prayed for. She didn't spend 4hrs picking up groceries she took her own break which is fine except she knew he needed one too. So since he expressed that to her they should've agreed on a time for both. Also EVERY SINGLE PARENT ESPECIALLY NEW PARENTS MAKES MISTAKES AND BAD JUDGEMENT CALLS SO ALL YOU IDIOTS WITHOUT KIDS AND SELF RIGHTEOUS B****S LEAVE THE MAN ALONE.

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Rasheeda Shaheen
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Mother's have more connection with the child. Majority of us knows ita time to grow up when the baby is in us. He obviously makes excuses of why he need to do his live streaming instead of helping out with the baby. I am sure this is not the first issue that she had with him about how he don't pull his weight around and help. I hope you don't have a daughter if so I would love to see how you respond to a guy calling her B*****S! Obviously you don't know how it feels to be a mother to carry a baby for months body changing hormones everywhere and need some quiet time to think. Not to relax but to think and concentrate on what all needs to be done around the house. I grew up with old time people especially men and if their wives went to the store to grocery shop they either goes with them to help out with the kids or they keep their baby/child. While mom is out and they don't go and play games with friends etc... They expect wife to be gone for some hours.

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tori Ohno
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Cover your bases and watch your back. That clip is online forever now. Hopefully nobody will call CPS on the two of you for neglecting a 7 month old like that. Some people are just mean enough to do it. Not your fault though, he's a horrible person and father.

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Bethany
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I find it very odd that the wife feels her husband needs permission to have a streaming session. It's clear he's repeatedly asked for this. Also we aren't talking about a newborn here. 7 month Olds don't need feeds every couple hours and they don't need changing all the time either. And no one in their right mind wakes up a healthy sleeping child to do either. The baby wasn't crying when she got home. Between the need for her to schedule the live session, her repeated calls home and her overblown reaction, I'm really not a fan of her.

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Bob Barker
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is a classic case of "you will do EVERYTHING on my terms and my terms alone". She admits he told her for days that he wanted to do this and her answer is "we will look at the schedule and see if we can fit it in".... What the F does that even mean? I will tell you. It means "if I feel you should be allowed to do it, I'll let you know". She is a control freak. She is not mad he live streamed or even that the baby wasn't changed (she has no way to know how long the diaper was soiled), she is mad that he didn't do exactly what she wanted him to do. She was also mad that he wasn't waiting by the phone for her.

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Katherine Stevens
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

yes there is not enough info to fully determine. But in my opinion you and him need to get you stuff together. I live like 20min from the grocery store, 4hrs is uncalled for if you have a list. Get a baby bed or something for in your husband's office so he can have more mental health days. And I'm sorry but a baby is fine for a few hrs sleeping and not having a bottle helped raise four nieces. All slept about 4 to 6 hrs without being touched. And if you were so worried about the baby you should have brought her with you. Grocery shopping is a break from the house especially when it takes 4 hrs. My husband games and streams occasionally he can definitely hear alot of what's going on in the house, he probably didn't respond because he was in the middle of a conversation or a q&a session. If he can hear the phone he can hear the baby crying. And what netter time to have a mental health break while wife is at the grocery store for 4hrs and baby is asleep. Both are the aholes but her more.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think both are equally TA because he should have some time to check on his daughter, and she shouldn't have to be out for that long. If she watches his stream, she could be wrong about him and he probably checked on his daughter in between breaks. If the husband checked on his daughter, then he's not a horrible dad after all. If she wrote a grocery list in advance, she wouldn't be there for 4 HOURS. It's basically everyone's fault. I just hope that OP and her husband can find common ground and be there for their daughter.

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Alex Freetime
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

4 hours is a damn long time, also raising kids is a huge chore. Cut the guy some slack, the kid wasn't going to die, he just lost track of time for a bit because God forbids he's doing something he loves. Bitching about it knowing you're gonna hurt his only hobby isn't gonna make things better in the long run. Now he's gonna resent this and for what? A damn diaper? People, learn to talk to each other properly before starting a family.

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Terry Sanders
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why is the first thing out of almost everyone's mouth in situations like this is ' ooh girl you better leave or It's time to divorce that so and so'? Was he an a**hole for leaving a baby unattended for such a long period of time? Yes...was she an a**hole for being gone for so long believing he was going to watch the baby? Yes!...I'm sure he showed her exactly who he was before they even got married and had this kid but she ignored it (as people often do)...thinking everything will change and we'll be sooo happy once he sees that sweet little face. We'll be a happy little family and live happily ever after. When someone show you who they are...believe them. Is this marriage salvageable? I think so...but they both have to want to do the work and agree that for the next 18 yrs atleast 😋 the babies needs come first.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Not to sound like a jerk myself, but she left a child with someone who was WORKING. Seriously should've take the child with her.

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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What the hell do you think mums have been doing during the pandemic? They worked AND they took care of their children during it. No one batted an eye though, because it’s expected of women… but it’s seemingly impossible to do both for him, but only because he’s a man.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Shes the a*****e. The way she assumes 100% complete dictatorship over every last minute of his spare time is concerning to me. Why do so many women feel entitled to doing that? I would NEVER tell my own partner "well, you can't partake in this hobby that you enjoy without my prior approval bc "responsibilities" ...Perhaps we can pencil it into a schedule that clearly I 100% dictate. I think its more about OP is threatened by his hobby. Regardless of what REALLY happened, she was free to leave the house for 4 hours, continually blew up his phone to check and make sure he wasn't livestreaming, and then used this situation as an excuse to scream at him in front of everyone in order to sabotage and ruin his channel. Men get depression after a baby too. Men have mental health needs too. Sounds like he did obey her wishes throughout the week and ultimately decided when the jail warden left the house to indulge in his hobby while the baby was sleeping. OP sounds EXTREMELY controlling imo.

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Emma Q.
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It is his hobby. It can wait until she comes home. The wife even said he could stream on certain days/times - he just couldn't do a 48 hour stream like he wanted. Yes - both parents mental health is important but it is still a shared responsibility to care for the child. He could have waited and been willing to compromise on the schedule.

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Ed Bangor
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

1: that the baby was ignored is a huge assumption. There is zero evidence that the baby wasn't asleep until the mother got home. 2: the father, by the mother's own admission, was asking for some personal time for days. Everyone was aware of his needs. 3: if the mother felt the impulse to repeatedly call and check in, she has maybe trust issues that need to be worked out. Of the father isn't trustworthy, you take the kid with you. If you leave the kid, you have to believe that your spouse isn't going to let your child die. She is totally the a*****e here.

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Corey Askwith
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yup DTA. Streaming is in some ways a job and can become a legitimate full time income. Sounds like your partner is working really hard to give it a shot and also enjoys it. You definitely could have approached it better, I am sure you wouldn't like your partner to interrupt you in the work place and accuse you of child abuse in front of your coworkers, it would ruin your image. He abviously has a dream of growing his following and your actions was to try to destroy that. Obviously there needs to be a talk about managing his time and priorities and to make a set schedule but that should be done in private.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Not to sound like a jerk myself, but she left a child with someone who was WORKING. Seriously should've took the kid with her. Being a youtuber is hard work as it is and taking care of children while being a content creator is harder I believe [I wouldn't know. I don't have kids of my own nor do I want any [I prefer my furbabies]].

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Emma Q.
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He didn't say it was a job though. We have no idea how much income is derived from it. And it still doesn't excuse the fact that he wasn't okay with the schedule his wife was fixing for them. One of the benefits of a youtuber job is flexible work hours. He could have waited until the wife came home even if it was 4 hours.

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Keith O
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

ESH. Husband should not have just left his daughter unattended in the bedroom for sure, no argument there. But wife got to go shopping......for hours all the while she had ignored his repeated requests for a mental break as well. They are both immature in this situation and need to figure out if this is just a hard time to work through, or a time to reevaluate. And btw.......14K followers is not a lot, that's the part that's sticking in my craw, she "ruined" his channel. I think the parents need to see a therapist or move on.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

GOT to go shopping? Since when is the chore of keeping a household running a prize? She didn't ignore his request for streaming time. You're making that up. She disagreed with him taking that time when the were already busy with chores. Do you ditch work for mental health time or do you wait until you have free time? Well there ya go. How was she immature for doing chores? That's ridiculous.

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Get a baby monitor. Eyes on the baby could have alerted you much sooner! Some dads do great with a baby some not so much. Same goes for moms. With a 7 month old baby, you should have know by now if he could handle your four hour shopping.

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Sounds like both parents need to wake up and smell the coffee! If you can't be a**ed to look after your kids......don't breed! By a TV or something FFS lol

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I agree, the baby could have just woken up. I'm sure if he heard the baby crying that he would have checked on it, especially with her calling constantly to make sure he was checking on it. She needs to let him learn on his own how to parent. Also, the wife just immediately starts going off on him without a civil discussion first? They/she needs counseling.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Except he didn't hear how wife come home, walk around the house calling out to him, know she'd been in to see baby, and didn't even hear till she walked into the room with him. Do 7 MO old babies go hunting around the house for parents on your planet???? Cuz on this one, they can't even crawl, walk, or chase your lame a*s down in the house, behind closed doors. You're dumb, plz don't have children

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Both are idiots and don't deserve a child. You want your "me time"? Well tough luck. You bring that little human into the world so his/her needs trumps your "me time" every day of the week. The husband is an arsehole, no doubt. But clearly, there is more to this story with the 4 hour "grocery shopping".

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Not necessarily. What if it's a 20-30 minute drive one way? Or even both ways. There's also checkout times. Possibly running other errands...

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She's TA...he doesn't stream everyday, the baby was fine, and she gets to go out for four hours. Also sounds like a drama queen and it doesn't take much to send her off the deep end....judging that her husband relies on 14K followers to help him communicate better than his wife, seems like an escape...ijs

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Vera1
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She was literally grocery shopping. That is it. Not the break you seem to think that it is

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