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People Destroy Guy’s Sexist Lists On How To Be A Man vs. How To Be A Woman
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People Destroy Guy’s Sexist Lists On How To Be A Man vs. How To Be A Woman

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Do you ever read something that makes you wonder what year it is? That’s what Twitter is saying about these bizarre how-to lists for men and women, written by someone who seems to think that women are the housewives from 1950s kitchen appliance ads and men are snarling Western film heroes (not much consolation, but at least he thinks both of them should participate in parenting, I guess?).

“How to be an incel: post this kind of s**t,” comments a page that collects and blasts misogynist rants from all over the internet. At least the comments the post has gotten, and the scathing replies to the list on Twitter, show that people who think like this are a disturbing minority.

Here are the original “how to” lists, unfortunately

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Some of the responses take the high road, taking the view that being considerate, developing respectable housekeeping skills and not talking over women or ordering them around are a better starting point for “how to be a man” because they fall under “how to be a decent person.” We also like the more surreal takes… following those instructions would be a good way to deal with people like the guy who wrote the original lists, especially the sword fighting part.

Commenters had some things to say about his advice

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What’s more, commenters agree that they’re better off without the kind of archaic caricatures in those lists, which isn’t surprising. Studies have shown that men and women in heterosexual relationships report better communication and more fulfilled relationships when they both take an active approach to initiating romance, making decisions, and solving conflicts. Yes, apparently, talking to your partner like a human being of the same species results in better relationships, who would have thought? Sharing household chores is also cited as a habit that makes relationships more stable. Total degeneracy, obvi0usly.

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The “how to be an incel: post s**t like this” caption made it to r/MurderedByWords and the post was taken apart all over again by commenters, like this guy who made the point that cooking is a not only useful, but awesome skill.

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johnlouis avatar
John Louis
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is not satire. Sadly there are so many weak, small-minded, misogynistic, insecure, fragile, religious zealots (But not having anything to do with the Bible or Christianity), arrogant, illogical, muddle-headed, ignorant, prejudiced, angry, bitter, demagoguery, chauvinistic, intolerant, bigoted, sexist, jingoist, dogmatist, extremist, shallow, uninformed, mean-spirited, people who buy into this ridiculous nonsense.

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Katchen
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I mentioned something my priest said to a “pastor” and he said, “Well there’s your problem. Women shouldn’t be priests.” In the Episcopal Church they should be.

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Person2638
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I reaaallly hope this is satire, because I can't imagine a living breathing human who thinks that living in our society.

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MermaidQueen
Community Member
4 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

dear LORD. Remind me to never go anywhere near Carlos de Valle. That's some small d**k energy right there. I'm betting he would disapprove of me, as I am loud, I nag, I avoid dresses and skirts, definitely not slim or feminine, have short hair, and the cherry on top is I am lesbian and would never treat a man as better than me. I am basically the opposite of that misogynistic list.

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anotherboredpanda
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I didn't realize there was twitter in 1952. Why isn't anyone talking about that?

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WilvanderHeijden
Community Member
4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

9chan was the meeting place for incels and misogynists. But that site has been offline for a while so the incels started posting their stupidity on all kinds of forums and websites. But now they've crawled from under the stones where they were living it's kind of hard to get them back there.

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Anna McHugh
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

God bless Carlos - it's great that some men put stuff like this out there. Imagine he disguised himself as a normal dude, and then some normal dudette went out with him. that would be very unpleasant for the normal dudette. This way, we can grab him, medicate him, and roll him up duct-tape in a carpet (or just leave him alone) before he gets hold of a normal dudette!

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Koalamonster
Community Member
4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I love when people quote the bible about things like this. Still probably wearing blended fabrics and eating foods that they shouldn't be eating if they actually followed the bible to the letter- but you know they only care about the parts that benefit them... geeeze....

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Emiri-chan
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3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As a girl, let me give some REAL advice on how to be a woman; love yourself, know your worth, don't put others down just to elevate yourself, and be your own good self. Be your own damn women, period.

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Id row
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What the hell is a 'soy boy'? That poster had to be a troll just looking for attention and reactions. I know there are genuinely stupid people out there, but it's hard to wrap my mind around that level of stupid.

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Scratch
Community Member
4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

How did he even post that? I didn't know the internet existed in 1952.

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Viviane
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So I could end up "single, miserable and with a soy boy husband" -- if that's simultaneous, then I'd end up being the unhappy mistress of a married soy boy. I ended up married so I guess the swearing didn't ruin my life.

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Katchen
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Someone like Carlos Del Valle was criticizing Chris Hayes for his views and included his need to wear glasses as a consequence of his political views and he was like, what does my poor eyesight have to do with anything?

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Aurelia Grey
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

How's about starting a list about "How To Be A Human Being"? I'll start, stealing from Plato: Know Thyself.

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Viviane
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Or "How to Be Carlos Del Valle": Know thyself... in the Biblical sense.

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MistyCat
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I can be dangerous. Wanna see? *smashes head into wall and leaves a dent*

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Renee Gauthier
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think this guy's fake & keeps posting this s**t for likes. Some people will do anything for a little attention.

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Catlover5
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He should not be trying to push men or women into small societal boxes about how they should behave

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elfin
Community Member
4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The premise behind both this guy's lists is that men are strong and women aren't people. He could see "The Stepford Wives" and not realize it's biting satire.

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Carol Emory
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As much as people laugh at this, I watched a court case unfold in which a judge was trying to decide if she was going to put a restraining order on a man that pulled a knife on is wife and daughter. The man said he did it to shut everyone up because they were disrespecting him. The wife was there saying it was her and her daughters fault for getting mouthy with him and not showing him respect. The judge was floored. She put the restraining order in place and ordered counseling for them both (done separately.) She informed the husband that he should have walked away, left the house temporarily, moved out, divorced his wife and have her and the daughter evicted. But a knife is a step too far. Guys with this kind of antiquated belief are scary. They don't like challenge or change. And sometimes they get violent if they are exposed to it. Carlos De Valle needs to never come within a 100 yards of any woman.

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Carol Emory
Community Member
4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Also..Carlos needs to be impotent and never procreate if for any other reason to avoid A) passing his caveman like persona on to any of his sons and B) to avoid any woman having to be joined at the hip with this moron for the next 18+ years.

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Rolie_polie&people
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Funny, my MOM only swears and My dad does not, with this being said HOPEFULLY IT CAN TRIGGER THAT SONOVABICH

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MintyMoons
Community Member
4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

how to be an stupid idiot who has no idea how to be a respectful human being pls see images 1,2,and3

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DJ Olaffson
Community Member
4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I know this guy. He uses satire to incite debate. Not his real name, a pseudonym. He uses these posts to highlight the extreme viewpoints from both sides of an argument, and how truly similar they are in their approach to someone with a different viewpoint.

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Muscatta
Community Member
4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Haha clicked on his website says you can get one on one email consultations with him. Think I'll pass. If I want to learn how to act like a woman from the old ages when we had no rights I'll read some period novels. Oh wait can women actually read in his little world? Don't think he gave us permission in his wee list

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Ula
Community Member
4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Where do people like that come from? So cofident they know how others should live their life?

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pusheen buttercup
Community Member
4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Even if you have traditional values, this is just silly. It sounds like something a child would say. Or someone very drunk.

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EC Moustache
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4 years ago

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Not everyone is religious, not everyone religion is sexist and not everyone is Christian. Quoting and old book does not mean anything.

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MsLou
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4 years ago

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Hasn't bored panda covered this guy before? If yes, why are we still giving him our energy? This is what he wants

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Zillyboy
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4 years ago

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The lists are great. It's hard to find something on either list that could be considered virtuous if you chose the opposite. Be out of shape? Be fat? Be masculine? Be unable or unwilling to take care of a house? Which of these do you prefer? For men, is it better to be weak, effeminate, passive, unreliable?

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Katinka Min
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4 years ago

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I wonder what it is like to see half of the world's population as some kind of easy-on-the-eye monkey, just there to do your bidding. One the one hand it must make you feel great, but on the other it must be very confusing to deal with so much negative feedback that is just incomprehensible to you.

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Marco
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4 years ago

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That list is so dumb, so dumb, that I can't even believe that people get triggered because of that.

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Phart
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4 years ago

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Jesus Christ you guys - it's just a damn joke! This is why the news has gotten so ridiculous these days - because people take everything so damn seriously. If you don't like it, then just ignore it - it's clearly not for you! Or rather - it's for you - for this exact reason! Don't give them the satisfaction. You're just falling into their trap...

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Lynda Momalo
Community Member
4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sorry, no, we know for a fact that Incels like this actually exist and actually believe this c**p. They get nothing from the exposure but the scorn they deserve.

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John Louis
Community Member
4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is not satire. Sadly there are so many weak, small-minded, misogynistic, insecure, fragile, religious zealots (But not having anything to do with the Bible or Christianity), arrogant, illogical, muddle-headed, ignorant, prejudiced, angry, bitter, demagoguery, chauvinistic, intolerant, bigoted, sexist, jingoist, dogmatist, extremist, shallow, uninformed, mean-spirited, people who buy into this ridiculous nonsense.

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Katchen
Community Member
4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I mentioned something my priest said to a “pastor” and he said, “Well there’s your problem. Women shouldn’t be priests.” In the Episcopal Church they should be.

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Person2638
Community Member
4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I reaaallly hope this is satire, because I can't imagine a living breathing human who thinks that living in our society.

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MermaidQueen
Community Member
4 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

dear LORD. Remind me to never go anywhere near Carlos de Valle. That's some small d**k energy right there. I'm betting he would disapprove of me, as I am loud, I nag, I avoid dresses and skirts, definitely not slim or feminine, have short hair, and the cherry on top is I am lesbian and would never treat a man as better than me. I am basically the opposite of that misogynistic list.

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anotherboredpanda
Community Member
4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I didn't realize there was twitter in 1952. Why isn't anyone talking about that?

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WilvanderHeijden
Community Member
4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

9chan was the meeting place for incels and misogynists. But that site has been offline for a while so the incels started posting their stupidity on all kinds of forums and websites. But now they've crawled from under the stones where they were living it's kind of hard to get them back there.

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Anna McHugh
Community Member
4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

God bless Carlos - it's great that some men put stuff like this out there. Imagine he disguised himself as a normal dude, and then some normal dudette went out with him. that would be very unpleasant for the normal dudette. This way, we can grab him, medicate him, and roll him up duct-tape in a carpet (or just leave him alone) before he gets hold of a normal dudette!

rosebona avatar
jksimm515 avatar
Koalamonster
Community Member
4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I love when people quote the bible about things like this. Still probably wearing blended fabrics and eating foods that they shouldn't be eating if they actually followed the bible to the letter- but you know they only care about the parts that benefit them... geeeze....

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Emiri-chan
Community Member
3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As a girl, let me give some REAL advice on how to be a woman; love yourself, know your worth, don't put others down just to elevate yourself, and be your own good self. Be your own damn women, period.

idrow avatar
Id row
Community Member
4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What the hell is a 'soy boy'? That poster had to be a troll just looking for attention and reactions. I know there are genuinely stupid people out there, but it's hard to wrap my mind around that level of stupid.

odiasuda565 avatar
Scratch
Community Member
4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

How did he even post that? I didn't know the internet existed in 1952.

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Viviane
Community Member
4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So I could end up "single, miserable and with a soy boy husband" -- if that's simultaneous, then I'd end up being the unhappy mistress of a married soy boy. I ended up married so I guess the swearing didn't ruin my life.

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Katchen
Community Member
4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Someone like Carlos Del Valle was criticizing Chris Hayes for his views and included his need to wear glasses as a consequence of his political views and he was like, what does my poor eyesight have to do with anything?

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Aurelia Grey
Community Member
4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

How's about starting a list about "How To Be A Human Being"? I'll start, stealing from Plato: Know Thyself.

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Viviane
Community Member
4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Or "How to Be Carlos Del Valle": Know thyself... in the Biblical sense.

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MistyCat
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I can be dangerous. Wanna see? *smashes head into wall and leaves a dent*

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Renee Gauthier
Community Member
4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think this guy's fake & keeps posting this s**t for likes. Some people will do anything for a little attention.

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Catlover5
Community Member
4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He should not be trying to push men or women into small societal boxes about how they should behave

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elfin
Community Member
4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The premise behind both this guy's lists is that men are strong and women aren't people. He could see "The Stepford Wives" and not realize it's biting satire.

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Carol Emory
Community Member
4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As much as people laugh at this, I watched a court case unfold in which a judge was trying to decide if she was going to put a restraining order on a man that pulled a knife on is wife and daughter. The man said he did it to shut everyone up because they were disrespecting him. The wife was there saying it was her and her daughters fault for getting mouthy with him and not showing him respect. The judge was floored. She put the restraining order in place and ordered counseling for them both (done separately.) She informed the husband that he should have walked away, left the house temporarily, moved out, divorced his wife and have her and the daughter evicted. But a knife is a step too far. Guys with this kind of antiquated belief are scary. They don't like challenge or change. And sometimes they get violent if they are exposed to it. Carlos De Valle needs to never come within a 100 yards of any woman.

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Carol Emory
Community Member
4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Also..Carlos needs to be impotent and never procreate if for any other reason to avoid A) passing his caveman like persona on to any of his sons and B) to avoid any woman having to be joined at the hip with this moron for the next 18+ years.

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Rolie_polie&people
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Funny, my MOM only swears and My dad does not, with this being said HOPEFULLY IT CAN TRIGGER THAT SONOVABICH

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MintyMoons
Community Member
4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

how to be an stupid idiot who has no idea how to be a respectful human being pls see images 1,2,and3

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DJ Olaffson
Community Member
4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I know this guy. He uses satire to incite debate. Not his real name, a pseudonym. He uses these posts to highlight the extreme viewpoints from both sides of an argument, and how truly similar they are in their approach to someone with a different viewpoint.

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Muscatta
Community Member
4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Haha clicked on his website says you can get one on one email consultations with him. Think I'll pass. If I want to learn how to act like a woman from the old ages when we had no rights I'll read some period novels. Oh wait can women actually read in his little world? Don't think he gave us permission in his wee list

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Ula
Community Member
4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Where do people like that come from? So cofident they know how others should live their life?

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pusheen buttercup
Community Member
4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Even if you have traditional values, this is just silly. It sounds like something a child would say. Or someone very drunk.

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EC Moustache
Community Member
4 years ago

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Not everyone is religious, not everyone religion is sexist and not everyone is Christian. Quoting and old book does not mean anything.

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MsLou
Community Member
4 years ago

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Hasn't bored panda covered this guy before? If yes, why are we still giving him our energy? This is what he wants

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Zillyboy
Community Member
4 years ago

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The lists are great. It's hard to find something on either list that could be considered virtuous if you chose the opposite. Be out of shape? Be fat? Be masculine? Be unable or unwilling to take care of a house? Which of these do you prefer? For men, is it better to be weak, effeminate, passive, unreliable?

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Katinka Min
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4 years ago

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I wonder what it is like to see half of the world's population as some kind of easy-on-the-eye monkey, just there to do your bidding. One the one hand it must make you feel great, but on the other it must be very confusing to deal with so much negative feedback that is just incomprehensible to you.

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Marco
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4 years ago

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That list is so dumb, so dumb, that I can't even believe that people get triggered because of that.

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Phart
Community Member
4 years ago

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Jesus Christ you guys - it's just a damn joke! This is why the news has gotten so ridiculous these days - because people take everything so damn seriously. If you don't like it, then just ignore it - it's clearly not for you! Or rather - it's for you - for this exact reason! Don't give them the satisfaction. You're just falling into their trap...

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Lynda Momalo
Community Member
4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sorry, no, we know for a fact that Incels like this actually exist and actually believe this c**p. They get nothing from the exposure but the scorn they deserve.

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