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Philosophers and writers have long debated the roles people have played in influencing the progress of civilization. While Thomas Carlyle, for example, felt that great figures are key to guiding us forward, Leo Tolstoy, on the other hand, was of the belief that no individual can single-handedly steer the course of humanity, no matter what position they held.

Regardless of what the case might be, there are two kinds of people: those who are forgotten and those who live on in our collective memory. In an attempt to figure out if some of the latter are getting undeserved praise, Reddit user TGYHJDFGH made a post on the platform, asking everyone: "What beloved person in history should be hated?" and it was immediately flooded with answers.

But before you scroll down to check them out, I want to make things a little bit more interesting and/or complicated for you. Tell me, can we judge someone's morals after hundreds of years, when the entire cultural landscape has changed course? And where do we draw the line between what we can and cannot accept about someone's personal life if their work has transcended time and allowed countless people to find meaning?

I know, these are pretty tough questions. But humans are walking contradictions and it would be irresponsible to instantly dismiss the legacy of, say, the Founding Fathers or Mother Teresa.

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Someone Asked "What Beloved Person In History Should Be Hated?", Here Are 30 Eye-Opening Answers Christopher columbus...didnt discover s**t and brought misery wherever he went.

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Aran Lindvail
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This needs to be higher. Columbus was THE WORST. Slavery, murder, torture, you name it.

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Someone Asked "What Beloved Person In History Should Be Hated?", Here Are 30 Eye-Opening Answers Mother Theresa. My father was a taxi driver in Australia and one of his customers was a man who'd been raised in Mother Theresa's orphanage. He said she beat him terribly.

Another user also added: She was obsessed with preventing wartime sexual abuse victims from getting abortions.

Her order sold babies.

She buddied up to dictators and accepted stolen cash from them.

Collected millions in donations and never spent them on her "houses of the poor" which were vermin infested crapholes where people went to die.

Refused pain medication for the dying and ill because she believed suffering = being close to god.

Had nothing but top of the line medical care for herself.

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Lucifer
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Teresa was a horrible human being. She believed that only through pain you can reach Christ, so let the people suffer in her care. And it was backed by the Catholic Church so that she can convert as many people as possible to Christianity. And the Western world backed her with billions in donations. (Read 'Missionary Position' By Christopher Hitchens)

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Someone Asked "What Beloved Person In History Should Be Hated?", Here Are 30 Eye-Opening Answers Thomas Edison. I’ll never forgive him for what he did to Tesla.

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Nunya Business
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He electrocuted an elephant to death to prove his point about AC/DC electricity and I will forever detest him for that.

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Someone Asked "What Beloved Person In History Should Be Hated?", Here Are 30 Eye-Opening Answers Ronald Reagan - moved somewhere between 50-80 TRILLION from middle class to upper 1%. Ruined America!

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Lucifer
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Reagan is the reason why America is in such a mess right now. He was the original cult leader, before Trump took over the GOP.

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Leo Domitrix
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

10,000 upvotes. The first clueless celebrity pretending to be POTUS was Ronald Reagan. it was sheer luck for him that the USSR fell down when he happened to be in office. He also embraced the religious right, vs Nixon (who used them), and sold "trickle-down" economics somehow, which even as a kid I wondered how would work. Also conned people into de-unionizing and de-regulating. Horrible horrible POTUS

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Tom Susala
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

George Washington couldn't tell a lie, Richard Nixon couldn't tell the truth, and Ronald Reagan couldn't tell the difference...

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Powerful Katrinka
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He has another terrible legacy: he (with his good buddy Rupert Murdock) abolished the Fairness Doctrine. The Fairness Doctrine was a policy that required the holders of broadcast licenses both to present controversial issues of public importance and to do so in a manner that fairly reflected differing viewpoints. Hey presto! Fox "News" was born.

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MAL
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He also completely ignored the AIDS crisis leading to thousands of American deaths. F**K REAGAN.

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Freddy H
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

AIDS was first recognized as a disease in 1981, the first year of Reagan's administration. By 1982, the federal budget included funds for AIDS research. By the time he left office, that funding had increased eight-fold. His surgeon general, C Everett Koop, was tireless in trying to promote ways to slow the spread, with Reagan's approval. If you want to hate on Reagan, you're going to have to find a reason other than this.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I just finished a book on the Reagan presidency and there are so many repellent things in it I can't even tell you. But what stuck out was that Reagan and his wife were so embarrassed by their own supporters. They called them double Chromosome conservatives.Just like trump. And they installed all their wealthy friends in positions they weren't qualified for, and Nancy Reagan actually stole $3.5 million after she left the White House and nothing was ever done about it. The day that he decreed ketchup would be counted as a vegetable in school lunches, his wife bought $250,000 personal China for the White House. Just horrible horrible people. They only saw our country as a Grift. Just like trump.

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Paul Davis
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Destroyed the mental healthcare system, is the reason why the streets became overrun by the homeless. Helped overthrow democracies. Sold public assets and information to private companies for pennies on the dollar. The list goes on and on

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

To be fair, the mental healthcare system was pretty s**t before that, and it hasnt evolved by a whole lot

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When I was a teen in the 80s, I hated Reagan because punks hated Reagan. It was just the thing to do. Then I grew up and learned better reasons to hate Reagan.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I mean, 80s punks were a good group to follow if you wanted to know who the bad guys were. They knew what was up and had zero issues fighting it.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The percentages of high school graduates has severely dropped since his "trickle down economics" was put into effect. "Trickle down",,, is about right for what the bottom gets, like a tinkle stream.

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Aria Whitaker
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

LOL...tinkle stream is a great way to describe that nonsense! My mom was a teacher and HATED Reagan! One of the reasons: Here in the US (not sure about other countries) we have a "food pyramid". It is supposed to give an idea of about how many servings of each food group you needed daily to stay healthy. Schools had to offer meals that satisfied requirements in the pyramid. One of those requirements were 2-4 servings of vegetables. So that the Reagan Administration could satisfy that requirement WITHOUT giving public schools additional funding for meals, he declared KETCHUP a "vegetable". All so he could cut money from education. So if a kid is served cheap french fries and ketchup...that is considered TWO full servings of vegetables. They could simply give you a ketchup packet and...bam...half the requirement has been met. She thought it was SO evil of him to do that to save a buck. She noted the quality of the food for her kids plummeted and their complaints about hunger grew. Evil.

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Bill Allen
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As a young married couple, my wife and I were just approaching being lower middle class. Our taxes increased at least three times in the eight years Reagan was president. We got zero benefit from the extra taxes.

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John Baker
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Reagan raised taxes on the middle classes a total of eleven times to pay for his tax cuts for the rich.

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Mrs. Jan Glass
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Those of us who lived through it know. From AIDS to mental health to education to Christians taking over, Ronnie effed up EVERYTHING. And that's before we get to funding global terrorism, even!

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Kate Blake
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He cut the mental health system to shreds in California which lead to the ongoing homeless issues that continue to this day. Worse? Other states followed suit.

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Terd Fergison
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Let’s not forget how bad Ray-gun screwed up the AIDS outbreak. He could have tried to quarantine. He could have tried to help people. He said it was a gay disease and he didn’t care if it killed gay people. F*****g monster.

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Cynthia Carter
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My husband is a retired US postal worker. Reagan decreed that they wouldn’t get social security because it would be “double dipping”. We both came of age in the 70’s, cared about the environment, bought an energy efficient home, drove gas efficient cars, cooked at home, made do with good hand-me-down furniture, etc. When Reagan came in extravagance and vulgar shows of wealth were suddenly OK. What?

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Sara Frazer
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Not to mention he and Nancy's totally racist ideologies and the "war on drugs" leading to many Black people (mostly men) and Hispanic men being incarcerated, for minor and unfair reasons, even for being assumed to be affiliated with a "gang" with no evidence, which of course goes on to this day....

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Linda HS
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

…don't forget, he's the one who named ketchup as food group!!!

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Kimi Tomminello
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As a kid I loved when this happened because to my mom Reagan was (is) lord and saviour and I got to eat French fries and ketchup and tell her i didn't need any other vegetable because HER president said ketchup was a vegetable and she wouldn't even fight with me over it. I didn't like Reagan.

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Mark Karol-Chik
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The only good thing this monster did was help drive American Hard Core punk rock. F this guy.

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Rez Fidel
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah.. and he had a presidential astrologist involved in important decisions. I mean.. wtf?!

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Susan Atkinson
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Actually Nancy consulted her Astrological daily and told Ronnie what he should do.

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Steve Fischer
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

People always laugh at me when I said Reagan was one of the worst presidents ever. His support of the trickle down theory, the Laffer Curve, created the billionaire class, destroy the middle class, and took the national debt from $900 million to over $3 billion while in power.

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Meredith
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We are still dealing with his b******t trickle down Reaganomics.

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Vincent Maniace
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He started taxing Social Security payments! So we're now taxed twice on that money, when we earn it and when we receive S.S payments.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I loathe this miserable creature and I'm glad he's run down the curtain and gone to join the choir invisible. He was a hateful lump of flesh.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ronald Reagan also had the "Fairness Doctrine" abolished by the FCC. The "Fairness Doctrine" had media outlets report both sides of a story, the facts as presented and the dissenting information on the same story as reported. This now allows the media to report their own takes on the story, dismissing any dissenting facts or opinions at will.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Deregulation set the stage for what we're seeing in today's economy but conservatives will always, only ever lay the blame at the feet of liberals.

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John Baker
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That's been the GOP's only "strategy" since Nixon. Fǔck up. Blame the Democrats. Rinse and repeat. Eisenhower was the last decent Republican.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I always knew there was something wrong with that guy. I could tell, don't ask me how, that he was in mid-stage dementia before he was re-elected.

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Memere
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There were reports that he regularly fell asleep during Cabinet meetings. And the Cabinet pretty quickly started conducting the meetings while he was sleeping then would wake him up & have him sign off on everything they had decided.

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Chris
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wait, people like this clown?! I've never heard anyone say anything good about the c**t.

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John Baker
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Before Trump, the GOP saw him as almost a demigod. Now, they're so far right even Saint Ronnie the Demented is too "liberal" for them.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Not to mention what he did to the Black community. Selling drugs in the Black community and then criminalizing said drug. Then the powdered form that black people didn’t use had a lighter penalty. Ketchup as a vegetable 🙄 I could really go on, but I am really trying to have a nice day. He is licking the toes of Satan right now.

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Randy Klefbeck
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

His under cover war in Nicaragua created the drug trade from South and Central America, into the U.S. The soldiers that the CIA backed were death squads going from village to village raping an murdering anyone who was suspected of having ties to the alternate government. He kicked out over a million mental health patients to become homeless through defunding govt. hospital care. He ignored the AIDS crisis. He created the biggest lie ever to be repeated over and over again about "trickle down economics."

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Cheryl Helsby
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He was a puppet. They specifically chose him for his friendly demeanor. Remember, the government officials are chosen from the top, not from us! Red or Blue, means nothing. Liberal and Conservative in Canada is the same. Our votes mean nothing. It is a farce.

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Kantami Blossom
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Not to mention the whole Iran-Contra affair or his pointless war on drugs that saw him funnel American taxpayers money into the pockets on tinpot South American dictators.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Trickle down economy? More like the people he made rich holding onto every last penny.

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Judy Steelman
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I agree. Stupid stupid man. Also did away with mental health institutions. Should have improved them. Cause of much of homelessness

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ronald Reagan among other atrocities ended trade schools and programs design for internship for impoverished minority neighborhoods and communities, and introduce drugs into that same community. Which left young people without an avenue to advance out of their situation and introduce entrepreneurship and Street corner pharmaceuticals representative. Drug dealers. The Republican party is still surprised that the drugs did not just stay in the neighborhoods that they had meant for them to be, and a large majority of their addicts now look like them. He also introduced the myth of The welfare Queen, implying by key phrases and words that she was African American, when in fact Linda Taylor was Caucasian and he possibly allowed her to get away with murder and we know for sure kidnapping, in order to portray her as The welfare Queen. We didn't have the internet then, but we had newspapers and the way he described her over and over again gave the impression intentionally, that she was African-American. He even described her as having an afro, when it was just a basic perm.

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Susan Widomski
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My brother and I used to talk about how senile he was and appalled by the worship he receives from people.

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Karen Lyon
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So many reasons to loathe that man. One of his gubernatorial campaign promises was to reinstate segregational housing laws in California. He then closed psychiatric hospitals, putting lots of mentally ill folks on the street. My state's mental health crisis/homeless situation has its roots in that debacle. He repeated that on a national level with one of his first directives as President, and shot down the mental health initiative that Jimmy Carter had set up.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A lot of psychoanalyticians today agree that Reagan was borderline psychotic - not slightly, but in a clinical way. At the end of his presidency he is also said to have shown signs of dementia. His worldview was partly shaped by playing in old style western movies during his time as an actor. While some of his policies have proven to be desastrous, I strongly doubt he came up with them on his own. Since reading Hannah Segal's groundbreaking Essay "Silence is the Real Crime" (1987) I am seeing him in a different light...

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Double-digit I.Q. Ronnie. Nancy~~who shielded him at the end of his presidency~~never told us he had dementia. He didn't fool any1 who wasn't a GOP blind licker~~we all knew he was senile most of his life. And dumb as a goat...baaaa.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Guess he took too many naps and followed his astrologer's advice too many times.

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Jennifer Romans
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Reagan was a hack. One of the worst presidents ever. Roosevelt almost saved us, but Reagan and his movement overturned all the good things that had been accomplished.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And closed housing for mentally ill people so they had nowhere to live apart from the streets.

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Mickie Shea
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sad to say this American icon began this road to hell that's been carved out of the American people by republicans and.tRumpettes

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Mary G
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Total trash man. Couldn't agree more with all that has been said. My biggest problem with him is his turning away from the energy policies that Carter established, in favor of kowtowing to the energy/oil industries and their godforsaken plans for profit. When he took the solar panels off the White House roof, I knew we were in trouble.

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bill marsano
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Trillions of people! Wow! Never knew he was THAT powerful. Or do you just not know what you're talking about?

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Morgan Futura
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Homeless with mental illness on the streets.....yep, thanks Reagan

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Suze Allyn
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Vicious creep. Reagan and his administration were pure evil and very corrupt.

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Sue
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

One of the worst presidents ever, and started the movement that led to Trump. And such a "family man" that he dumped his wife for Nancy who then alienated him from his kids.

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Shane S
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If we could just take 4 years to set the culture wars aside, we might actually come together to get something done.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

50-80 trillion what? Are there that many people in the world? He is not one to be praised. I remember his "welfare queen" state of the union address. He was appalling in his Iran contra scandal. The drugs that entered the county via CIA agreement were placed in poor and african American communities. I witnessed my community ravaged by the sudden easy influx of drugs. Still, I don't understand the 50-80 trillion - headline.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes, he was a trash monster, but that figure is nonsense. The combined wealth of the entire WORLD TODAY is around $40 trillion. The entire GDP of the US during his 8 years as president didn't even amount to $40 trillion.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Reagan brought crack to the inner cities. He let AIDS get out of control. F**k Reagan... I hope he's burning in hell and being ass raped by Hitler

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He is why we still are fighting the Republicans to take care of the poor and needy. His "welfare queen" b******t was based on ONE case of fraud that was adjudicated and sent the woman to jail. But St. Ronnie believed all poor folk were trying to scam the government.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I. HATE. HIM. I was orphaned at 15 and my guardians rec'vd money to take care of me. At that time, you could continue receiving the money yourself if you were in college. This lasted until you were 21. Reagan did away with that, and changed it to 18. He's why foster kids get dumped out on the street at 18 (although not me) and why I didn't get a college education. He also closed all the mental health institutions, leaving those people in the streets with only the police to take care of them. He fired all the air traffic controllers because they went on strike asking for more money and fairer working conditions. He was a horrible person and worse president.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He closed all the asylums and let all the mentally ill out to become jobless & homeless.

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patricia sandoval
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As Latin American, we praised him for being against all that bs of communism which menaced our countries

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Reagan added the final few steps of the staircase over the middle class that was started by the Federal Reserve and the Military Industrial Complex.

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Jill Ferguson
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

His picture on the wall of a restaurant made me lose my appetite.

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Shiny1
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The good thing about Reagan was he made GIL SCOTT-HERON famous

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Piggie8
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm confused There aren't even that many people in the US.

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Memere
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The "trillion" refers to dollars, not people. OP forgot to add the $ sign.

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Guy Hennecy
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would like to see references to documentary evidence for this !!!!!!!!!

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jevais
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He was financed by the Jewish Mafia of Hollywood. He cared little of the citizens of his country. He was a Lucifer helper! A bloody blaster. He closed most of the public mental hospitals and sent millions to live homeless.

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Freddy H
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wow, this isn't even close to being true. The middle class prospered in the '80's.

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John Baker
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In the '70s, a family of four could live comfortably on a single income. That was over by Reagan's second term. Yes, the middle class was doing fine in the *early* '80s - before Reagan raised taxes on them eleven times to pay for his tax cuts for the rich. He also supported and armed the Islamic Unity of Afghanistan, an organization that later spawned both the Taliban and Al Qaeda. And let's not forget Iran-Contra...

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I can agree with that Nixon one. It’s gonna depend on which Bush you’re talking about for the other.

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OMG- the level of ignorance in this post is abysmal. But else is to be expected with the likes of this space..

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Without Reagan, Thatcher, and Pope John Paul ll, eastern Europe would still be occupied by the Soviets, and millions would live with zero rights. Reagan signed treaties with the Soviets that decreased the number of nuclear weapons. He didn't accommodate evil, which is what Europeans did with Putin and Georgia & Ukraine. It's easy to criticize greatness from a throne of apathy.

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John Baker
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And what, pray tell, did Reagan have to do with greatness? He was no more a real president than Trump was. He was a B-list actor playing the greatest role of his life badly.

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Wow. So many left-wing a$$holes on this site.

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If we're attacking presidents: let's not forget Harry Truman, the one and only human who ever allowed the use of nukes and Barack Obama who knowingly illegally monitored his own citizens and his so called European allies while simultaneously knowingly bomb cites full of innocent people just because there was a small chance the bomb would also kill a known terrorist.

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Then why was he supported by every state except Minnesota?

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You are all a bunch of left wing fools. Reagan was one of the greatest presidents this country has known. I suppose you all think Clinton, Obama, and Biden are just wonderful. They are what ruined the United States.

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Not only do we think that...so do Presidential historians who study that sort of thing for a living. Trump rated number 42. Towards the very bottom of the heap. LOL. Sorry, you are in the minority. https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/presidents-ranked-worst-best/3/

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Except did you notice how everything was better under Reagan and better under Trump?

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No, because unlike you most of the rest of us do not suffer cranial-rectal coincidence.

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who writes this and pretends we middle class ever had 50-80 trillion? Let's include ALL president from the insidious Nixon to the kult king Obama

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100% disagree. He allowed higher income earner to pay their fair share of taxes which was a way higher percentage than middle class people.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No, he did not. He gave tax cuts to the wealthy as part of his "trickle down economics" program. The money was supposed to then "trickle down" to the middle class but never did. That's why we now have the 1% & a dying middle class.

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Someone Asked "What Beloved Person In History Should Be Hated?", Here Are 30 Eye-Opening Answers Coco Chanel was a goddamn Nazi spy. Yes, she was an incredible designer, and she's probably one of the most influential humans of the 20th century, based on the number of people who have worn clothing directly inspired by her over the past 100 years. She really did change the way women dress in a truly radical way, and I respect that - knitwear, feminized menswear, ditching the corset, transforming black into an everyday color, the essential skirt suit, costume jewelry, synthetic fragrances in perfume, the list goes on.

But she was a goddamn Nazi spy. Coco was a wretched anti-Semite, like so many other members of the European elite during the 30s. She dated a number of staggeringly wealthy British aristocrats and they'd all sit around talking about the Protocols of Zion and s**t, trying to figure out whether any members of the royal family were secretly Jews, etc. When war broke out, the two Jewish brothers who ran her perfume empire (aka Chanel No 5, the best selling perfume in the world then and now) had to flee to the US for safety. How did Coco respond? By writing to the Nazis to ask them to transfer ownership over to her, a good Aryan, so she could make more money. But that's not the half of it.

She fell in love with a dashing German spy named "Spitz" who'd been seducing bluebloods all over France and England for years leading up the war. Coco was a useful woman - she was simply one of the richest women in the world, and she knew everyone in the British aristocracy, including her old hunting buddy and dear friend, Winston Churchill himself. She and Spitz socialized with all the biggest Nazi names in town, especially Otto Abetz, the Nazi ambassador to France, who invited them to every party in town. Spitz convinced her to join the Abwehr (aka the German secret service) and make trips to Spain. Operating under the code name "Westminster", she attempted to broker a "separate peace" between Germany and England. (In the meantime, she may or may not have reported at least one woman at the Hotel Ritz whom she suspected of being Jewish to the SS.) She had a grand old time going on her adventures, and wrote about the excitement of working for the Abwehr in her private notes.

Chanel was arrested only a few days after the liberation of Paris - absolutely everyone in town knew what she'd been doing and who she'd been doing it with - but for rEaSoNs UnKnOwN she was released without charges. It's widely believed that Winston Churchill personally intervened. It might be because the two of them had been close friends for decades. It might be because she was going to embarrass the s**t out of Britain by outing all the anti-Semites and pro-Nazis in the British aristocracy - including the recently abdicated Edward VIII who used his f***ng honeymoon as an excuse to tour Nazi Germany and shake Hitler's hand. She spent the rest of her life being a nasty, bitter morphine addict living in the Hotel Ritz. The House of Chanel has very, very little to say about the matter, and every few years a few more bits of damning evidence are declassified from the vaults.

If you want to learn more, I did a whole episode about her Nazi days in my French history podcast: "The Collaborator"

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Someone Asked "What Beloved Person In History Should Be Hated?", Here Are 30 Eye-Opening Answers Pablo Picasso, he was misogynistic and sexually assaulted women

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Someone Asked "What Beloved Person In History Should Be Hated?", Here Are 30 Eye-Opening Answers Gandhi. After learning all the colorist and racist s**t he would say to those who had darker complexion or those of African descent in my 8th grade year i haven’t seen him the same.

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Someone Asked "What Beloved Person In History Should Be Hated?", Here Are 30 Eye-Opening Answers Bill Cosby. America's dad. Up until those allegations started

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

he had creepy eyes IMO even when I was little, and being little, I'd say "creeper eyes"...

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Someone Asked "What Beloved Person In History Should Be Hated?", Here Are 30 Eye-Opening Answers Woodrow Wilson.

Guy was majorly racist, segregated the military, kicked black people out of the government, he screened a KKK movie in the White House and was a strong defender of the KKK. Even for his time he was considered racist

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Someone Asked "What Beloved Person In History Should Be Hated?", Here Are 30 Eye-Opening Answers PT BARNUM.

Most people know but due to the romanticization of The Greatest Showman, people should know that he was a maniac that did an ungodly experiments on living beings, locked people in cages, abused them, and mocked them. All whilst earning pocket from them.

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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

i loved the greatest showman and i knew these things but i didn’t realize how the greatest showman was covering up the true stories of how shitty he was

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Someone Asked "What Beloved Person In History Should Be Hated?", Here Are 30 Eye-Opening Answers John Lennon. Treated like s**t during his childhood, whinges about it his whole life, then does the exact same thing to his son Julian.

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Someone Asked "What Beloved Person In History Should Be Hated?", Here Are 30 Eye-Opening Answers Based on personal experience with Oprah Winfrey at Barnes Municipal Airport on New Years Eve in 1991, I would say it would have to be her. Cosby's private jet brought her and Steadman into the airport under cover of darkness to go to the Cosby estate up North. I watched from the tower and she shoved a lone child out of the way and slammed the door to the limo. All the child wanted was an autograph. Oprah's kindness and compassion was an act. If she didn't get something out of it, she was quite capable of stepping on feelings of a lone child when the cameras were not on her

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Someone Asked "What Beloved Person In History Should Be Hated?", Here Are 30 Eye-Opening Answers Elvis Presley. He groomed a then 14 year old and slept with her while he toured.

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Someone Asked "What Beloved Person In History Should Be Hated?", Here Are 30 Eye-Opening Answers King Edward the VIII was a nazi sympathizer who possibly colluded with the Germans to retake the throne in the event of an invasion and conquest of Britain.

He wasn’t just a love sick romantic who gave up his kingdom for a woman.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The royal family have more secrets than the Vatican and are just as determined to hold onto the devotion, worship and wealth.

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Someone Asked "What Beloved Person In History Should Be Hated?", Here Are 30 Eye-Opening Answers Steve Jobs. The way he treated his family is horrible.

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Someone Asked "What Beloved Person In History Should Be Hated?", Here Are 30 Eye-Opening Answers Alfred Hitchcock, the guy probably was one of the best filmmakers ever, yes. but it's worth mentioning how much he abused his actors, including sexually harassing Tippi Hedren

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Indeed. He was a miserable sonofabitch who used his skill to belittle, mock and humiliate actresses.

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Someone Asked "What Beloved Person In History Should Be Hated?", Here Are 30 Eye-Opening Answers Not quite beloved, but Joseph P. Kennedy Sr..

He decided that Rosemary (his daughter) who was 23 at the time should have a lobotomy; he did not inform his wife of this decision until after the procedure was completed. And then they sent her away to an institute.

In her early young adult years, Rosemary Kennedy experienced seizures and violent mood swings. In response to these issues, her father arranged a prefrontal lobotomy for her in 1941 when she was 23 years of age; the procedure left her permanently incapacitated and rendered her unable to speak intelligibly.

Sick f**k, who would do this to their own child.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"Who would do this to their own child". In that era? Quite a few people, unfortunately. The lobotomy at that time was peddled as a "cure" ----- they truly didn't know better.

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Someone Asked "What Beloved Person In History Should Be Hated?", Here Are 30 Eye-Opening Answers 8000 comments so it might be here Apparently John Wayne needed to be restrained from assaulting a native American actress in the 70s at the academy awards or something. I think her name was Sacheen Little feather. And Clint Eastwood allegedly was mocking her too.

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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

John Wayne was definitely racist. Remember the playboy article where he said “I believe in white supremacy,” he said, and spoke harshly about African Americans, saying, “We can’t all of a sudden get down on our knees and turn everything over to the leadership of the blacks.” “I don’t believe in giving authority and positions of leadership and judgment to irresponsible people,” he said. This is just the tip of the iceberg. And Clint Eastwood talks to invisible people in chairs.

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Someone Asked "What Beloved Person In History Should Be Hated?", Here Are 30 Eye-Opening Answers Einstein wasn’t a great guy. Brilliant, sure, but kinda douchy in his personal life.

He refused to marry his long time lover for years, even after she got pregnant. The child was assumed to be given up for adoption, but no record has ever been found.

He and his wife, Mileva Marić, worked together on their research. People saw them do it. They made jokes about it at parties. He proudly told people that she did all his calculations. They only put his name on their work and he went on to claim all the credit - ignoring any work she had done. Part of their agreement was that she would get the Nobel prize money but he tried to prevent that.

She raised two children - one schizophrenic - took care of the house and tutored to bring in extra money because he couldn’t get a job for a long time. He started getting more notoriety and then began an affair with his first cousin.

He moved to a different country to be with his new hillbilly mistress. He divorced his wife and quickly married the new, younger model. He had rules she had to abide by, such as leaving the room immediately when told and not expecting or asking for any sort of affection except when necessary for appearances sake.

Elsa, his second wife, was dying and he worked nonstop because he didn’t know what to do (I guess). She was basically abandoned her last few months.

He cheated on both his wives, numerous times. Ignored his children. Oh - and he was pretty into his second wife’s daughter and thought about marrying her instead.

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About the missing child, there is a series called The Missing By Marget Peterson Haddix, book fives discusses it

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Someone Asked "What Beloved Person In History Should Be Hated?", Here Are 30 Eye-Opening Answers Charles Dickens had his wife, the mother of his children, committed to an insane asylum so he could run off with a teenage actress.

Edit- I have been informed that this wasn't successful, he tried to have the mother of his ten children committed but it didn't work. Which is still quite bad

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

People (men, or ok "not all men") still try to label women as crazy or mentally unfit to get what they want.

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Someone Asked "What Beloved Person In History Should Be Hated?", Here Are 30 Eye-Opening Answers Joseph Smith-

I grew up LDS and left with my family when I was in junior high. After some reading and learning from historical documents without church bias, I realized how drastically different he was when he wasn’t viewed in the eyes of the church.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Joseph Smith...Big pimpin' (I saw that on a t-shirt that I regret not buying. 😭)

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Someone Asked "What Beloved Person In History Should Be Hated?", Here Are 30 Eye-Opening Answers Churchill. He started the Bengal Famine which killed 3 million people. He also was incredibly racist and liked killing through gas.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Winston Churchill, a hero according to the UK & US. Churchill carried out a genocide in India (4+ million killed through deliberate famine). And Churchill believed that eugenics could solve race deterioration and reduce crime and poverty. US & UK were very much on the side of Hitler, until they realized that he posed a threat to their power on the global stage. That seems to be missing in the narrative of why WW2 started.

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Someone Asked "What Beloved Person In History Should Be Hated?", Here Are 30 Eye-Opening Answers Andrew Jackson.

He’s always presented as the “common man’s president” but he treated the Native American’s terribly . He also had a huge rowdy party and trashed the White House

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Someone Asked "What Beloved Person In History Should Be Hated?", Here Are 30 Eye-Opening Answers Travis Scott, still ain’t over what insane s**t he did

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Someone Asked "What Beloved Person In History Should Be Hated?", Here Are 30 Eye-Opening Answers Oliver Cromwell

Tried to make England a republic, ended up being a king in all but name. Butchered the Irish, banned Christmas and is partially responsible for the puritans (who fled to America after the monarchy was restarted)

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Someone Asked "What Beloved Person In History Should Be Hated?", Here Are 30 Eye-Opening Answers Charlie Chaplin definitely. Dude groped/assaulted girls and married a woman 40 years younger than him

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

First wife had (falsely) announced a pregnancy at 16, then they married, later divorced. Second wife announced pregnancy at 15, he married her, otherwise might have been prosecuted because she was a minor when she got pregnant. Also divorced. Marriage no. 3 was relatively unspectacular age wise (she was 21). Within and in between marriages multiple affairs. His last wife, Oona, was 18 when they married (he was 54). They stayed together until his death, had eight children. (All according to Wikipedia - not good, but I found no 40 year age gap).

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Someone Asked "What Beloved Person In History Should Be Hated?", Here Are 30 Eye-Opening Answers Benito Juárez

He was the type of president who kills his opposition instead of negotiating. He did a lot of illegal executions.

He was going to be executed in Guadalajara, however one of his ministers convinced the soldiers not to kill him with a famous phrase "alto, los valientes no asesinan", the soldiers forgave his life and risked theirs as the disobey an order. Well, as soon as Juarez returned to Mexico city, he immediately ordered to kill all of those soldiers with no mercy (source: my sister worked with the Sargent's descendant)

After Juárez's government, there's a period Known as the porfiriato, where Porfirio Díaz was Mexico's president for 30 years. It was possible just because there was no opposition alive

Juarez suddenly died in 1872 from a heart attack. It's believed that a woman, to avenge his husband, worked on his home as a maid, and when she had the opportunity, she put an infusion of "veintiunilla'" a herb known by the natives for being poisonous and cause a heart attack 21 days (veintiún dias) after it was drank

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This. Not to mention he reformed the Mexican state by removing the church influence (which was not wrong) only to enrich himself and his family with all the resources confiscated. Also, he was indigenous but ashamed of it so he was extremely racist. If he hadn't died, he was ready to change the law to stay in power indefinitely.

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Someone Asked "What Beloved Person In History Should Be Hated?", Here Are 30 Eye-Opening Answers Andy Warhol was a fraud and an abuser.

The book Edie is a great read, but sad.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Warhol wasn't great as a person, but I've done a little research into him. He was a complex person who suffered in some ways. He did horrible things, but he also served at his church's homeless shelter well into his later years. Derinitely suffered from trauma and possibly depression.

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Someone Asked "What Beloved Person In History Should Be Hated?", Here Are 30 Eye-Opening Answers Dr Suess cheated on his partially disabled wife and she eventually committed suicide because of how distraught she was.

“I am too old and enmeshed in everything you do and are, that I cannot conceive of life without you,”

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Someone Asked "What Beloved Person In History Should Be Hated?", Here Are 30 Eye-Opening Answers Kinda coming much more into light now but The Founding Fathers, all of them owned slaves and by modern day standards they would be horrible people. But something I think lots of people don’t remember is even if these things are utterly reprehensible, everyone was doing it and they were all children of their time.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What history books didn't mention that fact? I learned that in the 1970s! And we had debates in Ethics class about this stuff....

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