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The US is HORRIBLE when it comes to vacation. Not only are our businesses stingy about how many days you get, but there is so much resentment from your boss and coworkers when you actually take your vacation days because our companies never hire enough people to make it easy to cover for anyone who's out. You're expected to schedule your vacation when it's convenient for everyone else, and they still make you feel guilty, like you're being lazy for not coming in. The "Puritan work ethic" is a nightmare that needs to die.
Totally agree. I feel sorry for the workers in the US. Here in NZ, the decent employers encourage you to take your leave each year, so that you actually get a break to relax, unwind and refresh. Also if you don't, it's a cost they have to carry over to the following year, which they don't want to do. Where I work we are chased up if we have too much leave untaken. Some staff are too busy or too work-minded to take leave so it soon adds up, then the bosses are chasing them to take it. Glad I live in NZ.
Right? In Australia if you accrue too much leave they force you to take some when you pass a certain amount (I think it's 8 weeks; depends on the employer). Ostensibly this is to prevent people from hanging on to their leave because it is cashed out of you change jobs/retire.
It's terrible! We've 6 weeks a year and you HAVE to take it. If you wish your boss has to give you 3 weeks at once, one time a year and if you get sick during your vacation, you get a doctors note and get the days back. And if someone from work calls you, to make you work even a bit, this doesn't count as a vacation day either. Sick leave is unlimited.
Not sure if it's a labor law thing, but in Canada everywhere I've worked since the mid-80s you got 1 week PTO and you earned more the longer you worked there. I'm in retail and after 15 years I get three weeks PTO a year. The US is a capitalist-run dystopia with the oligarchs fooling the slave population that "they're the best country in the world" so the don't question anything.
Most of us who work here in the 🇺🇸 know employers are here to screw us out of our time, sweat, and wages. Now they're 'stunned' that there are so many people telling them to FO. Even $15 an HR is a freaking JOKE with the housing cost rape, and even fast food is too damn expensive to purchase anymore.
This is something I don't get - American keep on saying if "the libs" get in we will end up like the U.K. ... you know what - I am 60 years old and have met a lot of people in my life. I am basic working class (all be it in I.T.). Most of the people I know own their own house and I have NEVER met any one who has a second job. Most of them - their wife is a SAHM all on one wage - those where they both work tend to have a bigger house and 2 or 3 foreign holidays a year.. I guess our taxes ain't that high after all.
"Fast food" isn't meant to be "inexpensive." It's meant to be convenient. Also, "frozen food" is no better than is Fast Food.
It's supposed to be fast AND cheap. Always has been. That's why they automate as much as they possibly can, so.one "chef" can make meals for dozens of customers an hour. Less workers mean lower prices. That's also why anytime anyone starts talking about raising the minimum wage in the US the right starts screaming about how upset we'll all be when a double cheeseburger costs $50 or whatever.super inflated, completely unrealistic number they come up with. It's also why they all used to have dollar menus. Where the hell did you get the idea fast food wasn't supposed to be cheap. It's fast and cheap but not that good. That's just the way it is
Think the worst scenario in 3rd world countries.
Here in NZ it is legally a minimum four weeks paid annual leave, or pro rata if part time. Casuals, I think it works out at 8% paid out on top of wages same time you get paid each week/fortnight. Minimum 10 days paid sick leave accruing to maximum of 20 if working for same business more than two years. 12 public holidays a year which are usually on a Monday or Friday to give people a long weekend. If you work any public holiday, you get paid time and a half and get a lieu day that you take when you want (in agreement with work so it works for both of you). Because I work most public holidays (in retail) I end up with around 9-10 lieu days, effectively giving me a total of six week's leave, which I can take pretty much when I want (with notice and agreement with managers). Spring to Christmas is the busiest work period so minimal leave allowed, but rest of year is fine.
You're absolutely right, and nothing will change because the atrocious education system is incapable of teaching most people how to think critically, so they continue to vote against their own economic, social, and health interests, to the continuing bafflement and consternation of social scientists. When I started university in 2001, the statistics were 20% of U.S. HS graduates go to college. Even less graduate. However, I have some hope the upcoming generations will finally change things for the better, especially with climate...I just hope it isn't too late for the rest of the 8 billion people on the planet.
If you've noticed, not everyone is fooled by this BS and the tide is changing, thankfully.
In Canada, assuming you're paid minimum wage, I'm quite certain the minimum vacation is 2 weeks, or 4% pay in lieu of. That may vary from one province to another, but that's what it is in NS and what it was when I worked in ON a few decades ago. If you get more than minimum wage, that can be pro-rated and occasionally is, but usually companies paying more than minimum have some level of graduated vacation plan. Then again, there are so many things about labour in the U.S. that baffle me - like the ability to pay below minimum wage... I thought the purpose of minimum wage was to establish, you know, a MINIMUM. Tips be damned, those aren't guaranteed - the whole culture is messed up in that regard. :/
Well-put. US employers demand devotion, (hello beds at twitter) but offer none in return. Get sick, get fired.
Good for you Canada! But even that can be improved on. If I remember correctly all European countries give at least 25 days paid leave for everyone. No matter how long you have worked there. And sick days are unlimited.
You worked there 15 years and only get three weeks. In in the US and get 6 weeks after being with a company for 8 years. Seems like you are in the dystopian hell to me
Many people here don't get even that much while many people around the world *start* with that much. So yeah, it's not great here when it comes to that.
Yeah, we are. Whenever workers try for change, management first says they can't improve pay or benefits because "they wouldn't be able to complete with higher costs." If workers still push, the gloves come off. Firings, selective layoffs, mandatory anti-union meetings, (I'm looking at you, Walmart), legislation like "Right to work" (for less) that cripples unions... On and on. Unions in the US are on the ropes because of legislatures that are addicted to special interest money. The entire political system here has been captured. Get everything in writing. Don't trust HR; they aren't there for your benefit. Even union "contracts" aren't contracts in the employers take the union to court or run the company into Chapter 11 reorganization on purpose so to void the contracts.
One week and only three after 15 years? I mean, it's better than nothing, but we over here get about 30 days, so 6 weeks, from the start. Labor law. One week, or even only three, that sounds horrible, sorry...
I'd have to check my notes but here in BC it's 4% for the 1st 2 years then 6% after. So for 250 days (roughly) you would be looking at 10/15 days off besides stat holiday plus the new min 5 days for sick days. So 25-30 ish in total unless you're in a union then 30+.
In the US the great thing is you can quit that day and start your own business, and a lot of countries there is a tremendous amount of potential for graft due to liscenses
I know a lot of people sh!t on working for bigger small companies or larger corporations but...........I've got six years in and began to accrue 12 hours of vacation a month at 5 years with the ability to always bank and carry 144. It slowly increases over the years, but even at 1 year I got a week; I also get 7 personal/sick days and 7 paid holidays off. This is all in writing in a benefits and policy handbook. I know tiny or even small companies can't always offer this, but it's in black and white across the board......no negotiating PTO as a benefit, it just comes standard.
You are working for the exception, not the rule.
Meanwhile we ALL have 30 days (so six weeks) off, by law and unlimited sick leave, by law. If you're sick in your holidays, get a doctors note and get the days back. That's how you treat people, since life is for living, not for working for someone nonstop.
Agreed. I think it’s type of job or industry-based for most jobs in US that actually have benefits packages. And now people are starting to demand benefits just to work. In 1994, I accrued enough PTO (sick, personal, flex, vacation) in my 1st year in an entry level position to take off 3.5 weeks Dec/Jan. Since then the benefits have only gotten better. In every job I’ve had, the PTO either rolls over or it cashes out into my paycheck. It really comes down to how companies value employees along with how skilled or education/experience-specific the jobs are.
That’s how messed up the US is if you think this is good. So basically you worked for 5 years with only one week off a year (is that unpaid??), plus sick days and 7 paid holiday days? In the UK the bare minimum is 28 days of paid leave, some places don’t include bank holidays in your allowance, so that’s an extra 8 days a year usually, and no one counts sick days unless you start to take the p**s. You can self certify (ie don’t need to see a doctor) for a period of time, I don’t know how long because I was never really sick (until now!). Although now I’ve not worked for 5 yrs because of illness, my info might be a bit out of date, it’s probably better now!
The US is HORRIBLE when it comes to vacation. Not only are our businesses stingy about how many days you get, but there is so much resentment from your boss and coworkers when you actually take your vacation days because our companies never hire enough people to make it easy to cover for anyone who's out. You're expected to schedule your vacation when it's convenient for everyone else, and they still make you feel guilty, like you're being lazy for not coming in. The "Puritan work ethic" is a nightmare that needs to die.
Totally agree. I feel sorry for the workers in the US. Here in NZ, the decent employers encourage you to take your leave each year, so that you actually get a break to relax, unwind and refresh. Also if you don't, it's a cost they have to carry over to the following year, which they don't want to do. Where I work we are chased up if we have too much leave untaken. Some staff are too busy or too work-minded to take leave so it soon adds up, then the bosses are chasing them to take it. Glad I live in NZ.
Right? In Australia if you accrue too much leave they force you to take some when you pass a certain amount (I think it's 8 weeks; depends on the employer). Ostensibly this is to prevent people from hanging on to their leave because it is cashed out of you change jobs/retire.
It's terrible! We've 6 weeks a year and you HAVE to take it. If you wish your boss has to give you 3 weeks at once, one time a year and if you get sick during your vacation, you get a doctors note and get the days back. And if someone from work calls you, to make you work even a bit, this doesn't count as a vacation day either. Sick leave is unlimited.
Not sure if it's a labor law thing, but in Canada everywhere I've worked since the mid-80s you got 1 week PTO and you earned more the longer you worked there. I'm in retail and after 15 years I get three weeks PTO a year. The US is a capitalist-run dystopia with the oligarchs fooling the slave population that "they're the best country in the world" so the don't question anything.
Most of us who work here in the 🇺🇸 know employers are here to screw us out of our time, sweat, and wages. Now they're 'stunned' that there are so many people telling them to FO. Even $15 an HR is a freaking JOKE with the housing cost rape, and even fast food is too damn expensive to purchase anymore.
This is something I don't get - American keep on saying if "the libs" get in we will end up like the U.K. ... you know what - I am 60 years old and have met a lot of people in my life. I am basic working class (all be it in I.T.). Most of the people I know own their own house and I have NEVER met any one who has a second job. Most of them - their wife is a SAHM all on one wage - those where they both work tend to have a bigger house and 2 or 3 foreign holidays a year.. I guess our taxes ain't that high after all.
"Fast food" isn't meant to be "inexpensive." It's meant to be convenient. Also, "frozen food" is no better than is Fast Food.
It's supposed to be fast AND cheap. Always has been. That's why they automate as much as they possibly can, so.one "chef" can make meals for dozens of customers an hour. Less workers mean lower prices. That's also why anytime anyone starts talking about raising the minimum wage in the US the right starts screaming about how upset we'll all be when a double cheeseburger costs $50 or whatever.super inflated, completely unrealistic number they come up with. It's also why they all used to have dollar menus. Where the hell did you get the idea fast food wasn't supposed to be cheap. It's fast and cheap but not that good. That's just the way it is
Think the worst scenario in 3rd world countries.
Here in NZ it is legally a minimum four weeks paid annual leave, or pro rata if part time. Casuals, I think it works out at 8% paid out on top of wages same time you get paid each week/fortnight. Minimum 10 days paid sick leave accruing to maximum of 20 if working for same business more than two years. 12 public holidays a year which are usually on a Monday or Friday to give people a long weekend. If you work any public holiday, you get paid time and a half and get a lieu day that you take when you want (in agreement with work so it works for both of you). Because I work most public holidays (in retail) I end up with around 9-10 lieu days, effectively giving me a total of six week's leave, which I can take pretty much when I want (with notice and agreement with managers). Spring to Christmas is the busiest work period so minimal leave allowed, but rest of year is fine.
You're absolutely right, and nothing will change because the atrocious education system is incapable of teaching most people how to think critically, so they continue to vote against their own economic, social, and health interests, to the continuing bafflement and consternation of social scientists. When I started university in 2001, the statistics were 20% of U.S. HS graduates go to college. Even less graduate. However, I have some hope the upcoming generations will finally change things for the better, especially with climate...I just hope it isn't too late for the rest of the 8 billion people on the planet.
If you've noticed, not everyone is fooled by this BS and the tide is changing, thankfully.
In Canada, assuming you're paid minimum wage, I'm quite certain the minimum vacation is 2 weeks, or 4% pay in lieu of. That may vary from one province to another, but that's what it is in NS and what it was when I worked in ON a few decades ago. If you get more than minimum wage, that can be pro-rated and occasionally is, but usually companies paying more than minimum have some level of graduated vacation plan. Then again, there are so many things about labour in the U.S. that baffle me - like the ability to pay below minimum wage... I thought the purpose of minimum wage was to establish, you know, a MINIMUM. Tips be damned, those aren't guaranteed - the whole culture is messed up in that regard. :/
Well-put. US employers demand devotion, (hello beds at twitter) but offer none in return. Get sick, get fired.
Good for you Canada! But even that can be improved on. If I remember correctly all European countries give at least 25 days paid leave for everyone. No matter how long you have worked there. And sick days are unlimited.
You worked there 15 years and only get three weeks. In in the US and get 6 weeks after being with a company for 8 years. Seems like you are in the dystopian hell to me
Many people here don't get even that much while many people around the world *start* with that much. So yeah, it's not great here when it comes to that.
Yeah, we are. Whenever workers try for change, management first says they can't improve pay or benefits because "they wouldn't be able to complete with higher costs." If workers still push, the gloves come off. Firings, selective layoffs, mandatory anti-union meetings, (I'm looking at you, Walmart), legislation like "Right to work" (for less) that cripples unions... On and on. Unions in the US are on the ropes because of legislatures that are addicted to special interest money. The entire political system here has been captured. Get everything in writing. Don't trust HR; they aren't there for your benefit. Even union "contracts" aren't contracts in the employers take the union to court or run the company into Chapter 11 reorganization on purpose so to void the contracts.
One week and only three after 15 years? I mean, it's better than nothing, but we over here get about 30 days, so 6 weeks, from the start. Labor law. One week, or even only three, that sounds horrible, sorry...
I'd have to check my notes but here in BC it's 4% for the 1st 2 years then 6% after. So for 250 days (roughly) you would be looking at 10/15 days off besides stat holiday plus the new min 5 days for sick days. So 25-30 ish in total unless you're in a union then 30+.
In the US the great thing is you can quit that day and start your own business, and a lot of countries there is a tremendous amount of potential for graft due to liscenses
I know a lot of people sh!t on working for bigger small companies or larger corporations but...........I've got six years in and began to accrue 12 hours of vacation a month at 5 years with the ability to always bank and carry 144. It slowly increases over the years, but even at 1 year I got a week; I also get 7 personal/sick days and 7 paid holidays off. This is all in writing in a benefits and policy handbook. I know tiny or even small companies can't always offer this, but it's in black and white across the board......no negotiating PTO as a benefit, it just comes standard.
You are working for the exception, not the rule.
Meanwhile we ALL have 30 days (so six weeks) off, by law and unlimited sick leave, by law. If you're sick in your holidays, get a doctors note and get the days back. That's how you treat people, since life is for living, not for working for someone nonstop.
Agreed. I think it’s type of job or industry-based for most jobs in US that actually have benefits packages. And now people are starting to demand benefits just to work. In 1994, I accrued enough PTO (sick, personal, flex, vacation) in my 1st year in an entry level position to take off 3.5 weeks Dec/Jan. Since then the benefits have only gotten better. In every job I’ve had, the PTO either rolls over or it cashes out into my paycheck. It really comes down to how companies value employees along with how skilled or education/experience-specific the jobs are.
That’s how messed up the US is if you think this is good. So basically you worked for 5 years with only one week off a year (is that unpaid??), plus sick days and 7 paid holiday days? In the UK the bare minimum is 28 days of paid leave, some places don’t include bank holidays in your allowance, so that’s an extra 8 days a year usually, and no one counts sick days unless you start to take the p**s. You can self certify (ie don’t need to see a doctor) for a period of time, I don’t know how long because I was never really sick (until now!). Although now I’ve not worked for 5 yrs because of illness, my info might be a bit out of date, it’s probably better now!