After This Girl Received An Unsolicited D*ck Pic From A Creep, She Sent It To His Grandma – Here’s How She Responded
There is nothing wrong with seducing a woman and there are a lot of tasteful ways to do it. Sending unsolicited d*ck pics, however, isn’t one of them. When a guy who went to the same high school as Tamira contacted her, she responded like a decent human being, giving him the opportunity to catch up. But as the conversation progressed, it became obvious that the dude had other plans.
“I was getting ready for work and distracted,” Tamira wrote. “I just wanted him to go away without hard feelings.” But their exchange kept getting weirder and weirder, climaxing with an impromptu picture of the guy’s penis. Insecure and obnoxious, the creep wouldn’t step down. “He wasn’t scary like this in high school either, so I was unprepared.” Naturally, Tamira took the most reasonable route. She forwarded screenshots of the entire chat to his grandma. Scroll down to check out how she responded!
She did send it…
Here’s what his grandmother had to say
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Tamira acted so impeccably, politely and was crystal clear the entire time. She couldn't have handled that absolute prick any better. I find it hard to comprehend there are people who act like this twerp in real life, it seems so alien to me. Anyway Tamira seems like a stand up person and is really bossing life.
The grandma defending her grandson after that is truly disappointing. I can't believe she still criticized the girl after what her grandson did and actually tried to defend him. "Boys will be boys" is absolutely ridiculous. A normal guy with common sense wouldn't act the way her grandson did. That behavior is just inexcusable.
The cute part is when she said he was "confused" when he flat out lied about his degree. Gran clearly wasn't a great parent herself.
Load More Replies...well that was hilarious. tbh she handled it with way more class than she needed to. and yeah, grandmas 'boys will be boys' is b******t, he's apparently a man (wrinkly d**k hahaha), and needs to act like one.
This exchange really sums up so many of the debates we are having at the moment. 'Boys will be boys'. Yes, and girls will get harassed, insulted, raped and killed because of this kind of attitude and upbringing. Fortunately, not only the women are finally starting to fight back in earnest, but more and more men are also sick and tired of the definition of men as ever-horny neanderthals who have no control over themselves.
Amen. The whole attitude of 'boys will be boys', meaning they're incapable of controlling themselves, is harmful to everyone. Personally, every time I hear that b******t line, I tend to respond with; 'boys will be held accountable for their actions like everyone else'. And you should see the shocked looks I get. Like they legitimately never thought of it that way before. Crazy.
Load More Replies...The girl acted very polite at first (as would I), but when the guy sent that pic that’s when even I would get mad. She had a right to curse and everything, that guy is a jerk! It doesn’t matter if he’s a boy and he can’t handle rejections, he needs to be polite!! “He doesn’t need to be reminded of online manners” my butt. He so does. He started insulting her. That’s not any way to handle a rejection. She obviously was busy and just had a break up, so how would she have time for a relationship? My point is, the guy and the grandma handled it wrong (The guy way more than the gma) and the girl handled it perfectly!
"He doesn’t need to be reminded of online manners". That's actually correct - he's perfectly aware of online manners. Online manners shouldn't differ all that much from brickspace manners. See how he freaked out when she said she was sending this to his grandma? To know how bad this was, he had to be entirely aware of how he should have behaved.
Load More Replies...As someone who left an abusive husband only 6 months ago, I can tell you that the behavior of this "boy" is 100% that of an abusive (or potentially abusive) partner/friend/parent. The way he flips between panic, rage, insults, threats, bargaining, and all of that from being polite, charming, well-spoken: textbook example of the Abuse Cycle. Reading this felt like reading a text conversation that sums up the last 4 1/2 years of my life. And the fact that his g'ma doesn't see it and defends him is also textbook. Think about every abusive person whose mask is ripped off: most people who knew them thought they were "such a great guy/girl" or ""he/she was so great with the kids" because that's exactly the charade they lived out in front of everyone. They are master manipulators. It's about control, and when someone sees the red flag waving and acts independently, the panic sets in. They don't "lose control", they just switch tactics.
We see it a lot in the media since #MeToo gained traction. "But he's never been sexually inappropriate with ME!" Well you got lucky, but do you really think he would do that to every woman he meets? That's not how abusers work. They abuse the people they think they can get away with.
Load More Replies...He and his grandmother both are insulting and disgracing the male gender. Actual men have the mental capacity and self-respect to realize that abuse (emotional, psychological, physical, sexual) is never ok and that only pathetic males with no dignity would try to harass or assault anyone (not just females) . Both he and his grandmother are sick for what they did and said. His grandmother was completely nuts for daring to mention that the girl could have been more ‘courteous’ with her deceitful, and assaulting, grandson. Clearly, the grandmother and her grandson are the ones without any bit of manners seeing how both of them behaved with the girl. I am glad there are actual men who are just as tired of the misogynistic nonsense that women go through because of those pathetic males and their apologists as women are and they’re trying to help end this nonsense with their support.
I'm thinking that behavior runs in the family, so granny thinks it's normal.
Load More Replies...I'm a guy. I cannot express how this entitled mindset is wrong. The truly sad thing is that it exists at all. "boys will be boys" is the lamest of excuses boys who aren't taught and disciplined for this kind of behavior are what just what we've seen by so many men in recent news. Grandma needs to instruct and discipline her grandson or she may see him on the wrong end of legal action
She absolutely handled that perfectly. I'm going to keep this in mind next time I'm digitally flashed.
I have had this happen to me and I just flat-out told them "I don't ever want to receive another picture like this from you. It is inappropriate and belittles both of us. I can tell you from conversations with my friends that none of us ever want to get a picture like this from anyone. Don't do this to anyone ever again."
Load More Replies..."that's just the kind of guy I am. Very considerate and sensitive to your needs above my own." .. Yeah... usually when a guy says something like that....
HOW WAS SHE IN ANY WAY LEADING HER ON??? SHE LITERALLY SAID I M FEELING REALLY UNCOMFORTABLE PLEASE STOP TEXTING ME???? SO DUMB!!!
Yes. There are serious red flags in his behavior.
Load More Replies...Gross. Dude, that's sexual harassment. Grandma, you're an enabler and you're the reason boys think they can objectify and treat women like s**t. My son would NEVER do or say anything like that to a woman and has NEVER heard the term, "Boys will be boys" because it's pure, sexist, b******t. My son AND daughter treat people with respect because "people are people, and people deserve respect." That's OUR motto. And I'm not somebody who makes my son hold doors for women, etc. I make my children both hold doors for other people, because it's kind and it's not a boy's job or a girl's job it's a common courtesy, decent human being job.
And, high-five for Roller Derby 8) (I'm co-head of bout for my city's league, though not a player myself)
Load More Replies...My favorite part is him congratulating himself about how good of a guy he is for telling her she doesn't "have" to do anything sexual the "first few dates". Like he's really giving her a break or something. That would have been my "f**k off" point.
That f*****g sociopath dirtbag makes my skin crawl. And his grandmother had the nerve to scold the gal for her behavior? The whole exchange made me die a little inside, but BRAVO to this woman for standing up for herself and exposing his clown penis douchbaggery to his granny!
He's probably not a sociopath though. Don't use mental illness to justify bad behaviour, it inherently removes some of the responsibility.
Load More Replies...This young man needs help. He's aggressive and delusional and has some really horrible ideas about women. When his grandmother says, "he does not take rejection well--big or small"--that is evident in his email chain, even before he showed his penis. He needs lots of therapy. He is an angry, angry young man. I'd be worried about any woman who got involved with him.
His number one problem is that he feels entitled to Tami's interest, affection, etc. That is REALLY not uncommon, and in extreme cases we get things like campus shootings where the guys felt rejected because no women were interested in him. But again: there are thousands of guys like that, a varying degrees of creepiness. It's not all of them, but it becomes dangerous not being able to tell a genuinely nice guy apart from a Nice Guy™ until he turns aggressive and abusive.
Load More Replies...Anyone who uses the phrase "boys will be boys" to try and excuse an individual man or boy of bad behavior of any sort is insulting the male gender.
There is no excuse for sending someone an unsolicited picture of your banana and plums. None.
This shows the basic miss education in young men with the opposite sex. Just because he thought about her and "changed" his life for her. Without her ever knowing, He thinks he has the right to her. She is a human being not some thing to have or own. For the damn record just because your nice to a girl doesn't you a right or consent to touch her or send d**k pics or anything like that. Gentlemen the f**k up!! Also that grandma could be better, That is no way to talk to a girl.
He knew that what he was doing was wrong, so he did understand the concept of appropriate behaviour with a woman. However, something that might not have been spelled out early, but highly reinforced once he reached adulthood, is that men get away with that type of behaviour all the time. Women are too scared or too afraid to speak, and when they do, they get blamed for it. Or whoever should be dealing the punishment is far too lenient because we've come to expect that type of behaviour, so much so that we think it's not something we can change. It does colour education of children from a very young age, at home and in communities, but that's not what turns them violent when they reach adulthood. It's a society that allows it.
Load More Replies...Thus screams of narcissistic behavior! My crazy X used this type of gas lighting on me all the time when his fake sweet attitude was met with my pessimistic attitude! The mask soon falls when these creeps don't get their way! What was his game plan if they started to see each other? Trust me,they always have a trick up their sleeve!
I would not be surprised if a few years from now someone is interviewing this young woman on Investigation Discovery about how she tried to warn his family about the grossly aberrant of this future serial killer. However, I am astonished that "Grandma" thought the recipient of this garbage could have "handled herself more courteously." The entire time I was reading this I was thinking how gracious the young woman was being in the face of unwarranted creepiness. Grandma should stop making excuses for his vile behavior and get him some help before denial leads to tragedy.
"Boys will be boys" is such a stupid, b******t excuse. Like, yeah, when they're little BOYS maybe they don't know that other people don't always want to see their c***s, but by the time you're a MAN, you can't use that as an excuse. I mean, people don't take aggravated assault charges between two men as "boys will be boys" as though it's the same as children play fighting, so there's no excuse for sexual aggression to be totally swell just because nobody broke an arm over it.
This guy is just a lunatic. She should rather go to Police with it than send it to his grandmother which, by the way, is trying to justify his behavior, which is even more weird. Some proper authorities should take care of this guy or something really bad can happen in nearby future.
OMG - Grandma is going to do absolutely nothing and then say "he was always such a nice boy" when he assaults a woman who rejects him. To say Tami could have been more courteous when she was perfectly polite right up to the pic being sent, shows Grandma will take his side no matter what. The only thing I would say is that Tami should perhaps have been less polite and stopped texting at about "not even doing anything sexual". That was the point weird flipped over into creepy and he just took her politeness as encouragement. Perhaps "I've got a boyfriend" would also have been a good idea - don't share that you're single, or just split up until you know where this random texter is going with their chat.
After "I feel like you're trying to get rid of me" I would have stopped answering, or answered "good guess, you're smart !" ... Why do we women feel the need to be nice and polite ? It only encourages them to go on and on and on !! (What we mean) - "what we say "- what they hear : (I'm not interested in you) - "I'm not looking for a relationship right now" - Just wait until I'm ready for you ! (I don't want to date you) - "I have a boyfriend" - If I was single I would totally date you ! I'm gonna dump him tonight and call you tomorrow morning ! (You're f*****g scary !) - "I'm uncomfortable" - Comfort me ! See what I mean ? I'd rather be perceived as a b***h and left in peace than harrassed by a freak for being too polite...
Because when women aren't nice and polite, too often men turn violent. Google "women killed for saying no". There is no universal Best Way To React when it comes to aggressive men, because any of them might decide to become physically violent because of a different reason. The fact that you're blaming the woman for not reacting like you think she should have, instead of denouncing the behaviour of the GUY underlines that you think that his behaviour was normal, and not worth working on changing instead. That's part of the problem.
Load More Replies...Boys will be boys??? Ugh, not that line again. A better line is "Children should be expected to make mistakes - correct them." But this is a high school graduate so that line doesn't apply at all.
I’m sorrh but when people send you pics like that your supposed to have nice ‘ladylike’ manners when you haven’t talked them it forever I’m sorry but that is completely biased Let’s not forget the boys will be boys part Pictures like that I’m sorry NO that’s not just being a boy F*** all of that THAT IS NO EXCUSE!!!!
Grandma sucks! Tell your mom to have a word with Grandma at church. No one, male or female, should be that abusive in a text conversation and assume a relationship where none exists.
This guy is severely detached. His social skills are odd, he lies, and he feels entitled for a "return pic" because he sent one. His grandma is the problem, she thinks "boys will be boys" is the right answer? The only "boys" who act like that all have one thing in common, single.
The man is the problem, not the grandma. His behaviour is not uncommon, like thousands of women could attest to. It's entitlement and manipulation, and it's rampant in society. But he's sane, and 100% in control of his actions and 100% aware that he's being a creep, and there is not a single person more responsible for this than him.
Load More Replies...Grandma's being a bit too lenient with little dicker here. Boys will be boys?? She's excusing his disgusting behaviour and creepy undertones on his gender. If a girl makes a mistake she's not just "being a girl" she's a b***h. When he did this, it wasn't because he is male, he's just a scum bag
No wonder he acts the way he does with family like that. This is repulsive in every way.
I’d be saving it and if he tries to contact you again, I’d take it to the police. Think, about the politician who is now in jail for doing just that very thing! And grandma? Thinking she MIGHTstill date him? I think she is seriously deluded, and I bed she just tells him he picked the wrong girl, again.. and doesn’t do much else. No means no regardless of who or how you know someone! He may end up assaulting someone, and his grandma has some responsibility behind that! So, don’t toss that conversation. Save it, just in case, like for at least a year! And I’d let your mom know, and see how grandma responded and I bet your mom will not be a happy camper at all let alone a happy and devoted Christian when she has a few things to say to grandma there! But I’d be more aware from now on.
THIS GUY IS A EFFING ARSEHOLE. A very "no means yes" kind of guy. Honestly, there are so many things wrong with him inwon't even say it. 'Leading me on'? Seriously, WTF
Grandma needs to take him by the scruff of the neck and make sure the pervert gets the message. It is not ok or hormonal what he is saying online, it is seedy and scarey. Dirty mouthed wee sod
I have a question: why do people send d**k pics? Do you think you might get a root or something...?
She should have just blocked his number from the moment he didn't believe her about getting a new phone. Also ridiculous that he lied about getting a degree! SMH
she should have blocked his number? It was in the middle of a text. How would that work? You're blaming her.
Load More Replies...All I can think is that this guy is seriously mentally unstable, and his delusional interactions with women just can't be the only issue with this guy. I just can't imagine that an otherwise normal average guy could have such an overwhelmingly warped perception of how to relate to other people (e.g., women) without family or friends noticing a problem. Can any psych professionals weigh in here?
Blaming it on mental illness or disabilities is removing his responsibility. His behaviour is far too common to be anything but learned - because men know that usually they won’t get any consequences from it. They are fully aware that this is bad behaviour, and they know that women are not likely to expose them. And when they do, people blame it on parenting, “boys will be boys”, or the woman herself. It’s a social problem, not a mental health one.
Load More Replies...boys will be boys?? Sorry granny but i feel kind of disappointed... anyway. Tamira's reaction was polite and clear, if she used some strong vocabulary at the end... well he looked for it.
B******T! "Boys will be boys" and "You should handle yourself more courteously" EXCUSE ME?! F**k that s**t! It's quite obvious from his behavior he's a f*****g a*****e. There are so many things wrong with this. "Boys will be boys" more like "This is what you call an assshit."
" I got the side chicks and I'm doing you a favor"? If he had three women he's hooking up with he wouldn't need to abuse and harass this poor woman. Guys like this suffer from the small d**k syndrome. Have zero esteem or have had a single negative experience and then take it out in every woman to have ever existed. As if the women are the problem. Too egotistical to look within and realize it's them, not the entirety of woman kind. Too many excuses made by family. If I found out a close family member was behaving like this I'd stage an intervention. Get them the mental health care the need.
Grandma's condoning the behavior with boy will be boys and this lifelong boy will find himself unemployed and in legal trouble many times in the future.
That guy is batshit crazy. Good for her for standing up to the prick. Apple didn't fall far from the tree though; the grandma is just as crazy.
Everyone is talking about grandma, but much more important and memorable is how mature Tamara handled it. She could have ridiculed him from the start but she kept talking calmly and nicely with him, she even tried to have a normal conversation about his study after all his annoying and pathetic 'seducing tricks' . And when, out of the blue, this d**k pic materialized, she did a very sensible thing. Even if grandma won't do anything about it it, he will, from now on, be so utterly ashamed and shocked, that he will never send d***s into space again.
HOW THE F**K WAS SHE LEADING HIM ON??? SHE LITERALLY SAID I FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE PLEASE STOP TALKING TO ME???? SO DUMB!
If this is an actual exchange, this man has a serious and dangerous problem. Sending the text to the grandma may seem extreme, but if his family will not step in first, who will? Some might think it should be some "mental health professional", but unless he seeks help, or his family helps him seek help, no professional has any right or reason to intervene. Sadly, without family assistance, his "help" will likely start with the police.
He's likely not mentally ill at all. This is actually pretty common behaviour. It's a socialization problem, where men are taught by society that they are entitled to women's affections (conditionally or not) and that if they show harassing behaviour like the above, even with full awareness of how wrong it is, they're not likely to suffer any consequence from it. This is a completely sane choice. Not a good one, but it's not mental illness.
Load More Replies...Shame on that enabling grandma. Very disappointed as one would expect more from her. She's part of the problem.
Please blame the man first and foremost for his actions. With no knowledge of the grandma's position in the guy's life, it's once again shifting the blame from a grown man for his action to another person. That is also enabling.
Load More Replies...Well, first of all she's his grandmother. His GRANDMOTHER, of course she's gonna excuse him. Don't get me wrong he seems like a complete ducking loser idiot, but that the grandmother thinks a bit more highly of him is not very strange.
I know a lot of grandmothers who would have kicked his backside for that kind of obnoxious behaviour. Don't excuse bad behaviour from people just because they've managed to get old. They're the same as they always were.
Load More Replies...Okay I relate to this 100% and have had so many similar incidents of delusion and unwanted ween pics. I want to believe this is true ( for my ability to relate, not because I enjoy the creep lol ) but all of the typing seems so similar, and not to say grandmas can't type a story but I know my grandparents aren't the most tech savvy. Maybe I'm wrong. Don't down vote me, share your opinion.
Depends on the age of the grandparent, but if she has a cellphone at all she would be more likely to take great care to write properly than most of our generation. I understand your hesitancy to believe this particular story, but as you've said yourself, you can easily relate. Thousands of women can. As such, whether this particular story is real or fake is a bit besides the point: all of this will have happened to so many other women for real, who might have been too embarrassed, ashamed, or scared to do anything about it, including sharing their experience. It's still perfectly useful as a tool for discussion, so that a lot of women this kind of thing has happened to can feel validated and safer to say so.
Load More Replies...Well if grandmother has that kind of attitude its obvious boy is growing up for F**up creep. Better to stay away from the whole family.
Grandmothers everywhere will have that kind of attitude towards their grandkids, regardless of gender. Not saying it's right, but that guy obviously knew that what he was doing was wrong. He wouldn't have done that in front of grandma, so she could not imagine him doing something like that.
Load More Replies...Great to see this behavior shown up on my phone! Hopefully he willllll mature from this mess he caused himself!
This Granny is making excuses. Come on, "Been more courteous"? Yeah, what was she supposed to say? And, boys will be boys is simply people blinded by stereotypes. This guy was creepy and I feel sorry for Tamira, but she did an awesome job in getting rid of him and texting his Grandmother.
Gran?! Why! Why! Did u try to excuse that and HELL "boys will be boys" I'm so done with bs like this I feel so bad for Tamira and only when she said she contacted his grandmother did he suddenly feel oh so sorry EVERYONE we have to be better this is ridiculous
Who are these guys? How do you reach adulthood and not understand the difference between basic human decency and flirting. I didn't spit on you so I must want you?!?
There is a thing called "blocking a number" once it got weird she should have taken that route instead of dragging it out and arguing with him. it's what adults do.
Dude has too much potential to be a serial rapist and/or chronic abuser. His brother could end up seeing his bro on a daily basis at work...and not as a colleague. I hope she got in touch with someone in law enforcement about him.
saying that some girls would live to f**k you? Excuse me? Honestly, who do you think you are?
she did not lead him on, she was polite and said she was not interested and going through a breakup. So, are girls supposed to be complete A******S to people they're not interested in?
I would be worried about this guy and other women as well, I agree no apology needed he just needs help. Maybe grandma was married to a male empowered ego too and sees nothing wrong with his disgusting behavior??? Disturbing to say the least!
Grandma dropped the ball here. If my son or grandson had done this, I certainly wouldn't be trying to correct his resume, I'd be sending Tami a videotape of me kicking his a*s!!
The boy is a sociopath with enough anger and kindness to blow someone up and then apologize for it but not without saying that it was their fault that made him do it.
Granny totally missed it. Not only did he send a completely unsolicited d**k pick, then blamed T, he also lied about his schooling and what he was doing. The whole thing about 50 pounds of muscle also shows a skewed body image. He's got some serious issues and if Granny doesn't do something about it, he's going down a wrong path. I hope this young lady takes NO guilt on her shoulders. She's was much more courteous, polite and understanding than I know I would have been.
Well, we can see where this dude gets his unacceptable (not to mention sick) behavior. Both he and granny are idiots.
Thanks Panda...I really needed another reason to withdraw from humanity...
Things like this need to come complete with a facebook profile screenshot and link, IMO.
Is someone out there actually responding favourably to d**k pics? Because I can't understand how they think it's a good idea and then respond with confusion to the 'wtf!'.
Believe it or not yeah. Yeah there are quite a few out there.
Load More Replies...Ewww, what a creepy guy! It's amazing how he completely confused his brother's life with his own. Very interesting way to treat someone that who is his sole inspiration / trying to do a favour for / have a one-night-stand with / madly in love with (his story changes multiple times).
She barely remembered the guy but knows how text his grandmother?? That seems more than just made up.
Gee whiz - With Grannies comments I can see why her Grandson will remain a YUGE loser with the ladies.
The scariest part of this whole thing is the fact that this guy wants to be a cop. A COP! And you know, despite it all, that he WILL get hired as a cop somewhere. And he will learn nothing about any sort of human relations, but will remain in this juvenile mentality, ego swollen further by badge and gun, as he goes about doing "police work".
Grandma The Enabler. What is wrong with supposed adults nowadays? No telling what misery that lying creep will cause other women in the future.
As a boy, I know the correct expression is: Boys will be held accountable for stupid a*s behavior, so they better get their s**t together or they'll be faced with the consequences! There grandma, that's how it's supposed to be.
This entire thing is disgusting. I would be worried about that guy. He doesnt sound right in the head.
That guy needs some setious help, that behavior is downright ertifiable. Also, the woman should have blocked him loooong before he sent the pic and definitely not engaged him like that. Sometimes being "rude" by blocking someone right away is the better course of action...
Grandmas attitude (imo) contributes to the problem. It seems many family members are completely out of the loop when it comes to facing the truth about their sons/ grandsons. This B******t tendency of dismissing unacceptable behaviour as another case where they’re “just boys just being boys’. This minimizing of such immaturity by family members (especially by other females!) ‘could’ help allow/encourage them to continue on (potentially) increasing seriously harmful behaviour and consequences. As some of these emotionally immature males age it seems they try to “convince themselves and others” that their overinflated egotistical ‘claims’ are not easily ‘seen through’ by others, yet realistically they easily are! (and even by themselves too, if they are honest about it!) smh 🤷♀️ I hope he ‘gets it’ instead of ignoring it (but I seriously have my doubts, based on his insecurities and false bravado! (but hey, this is just ‘my two cents worth’) 😉
I had a boy in high school pursue me relentlessly. I was kind to him, but didn't in any way encourage his behavior. Theno ne day he got a little too creepy with a letter he left me when he broke into my locker, and I told him to stop. From then on, he showed up at my house and threw rocks at my window, sped by my house screeching his tires, and left me horribly cruel and nasty letters telling me what a b***h I was. It was scary and unsettling, and a very bad time in my life. Indeed, some men don't take rejection well at all, and feel that they've been slighted if every women they ask out doesn't immediately fall on their knees in gratitude. There's something rotten in Denmark about the male psyche sometimes.
Tami handled herself with a lot more courtesy than he deserved and she's a damn a saint for not going off on his grandmother, tbh. I'm a lot more shocked at the grandma's reaction, even if he's her grandson, she had the audacity to reprimand the woman on how she acted? Holy c**p, no wonder he's such a pos, it must run in the family.
The reason guys act like this is becuase of parents and grandparents like this. I freaking hate parents how think 'My little darling could never do anything like this' BS. I get it it...horny guys do stupid things. I was a stupid horny guy too but the idea you that you send a d**k pic to somone you haven't seen since high school is 'get some mental health help' time.
The reason guys act like this is because they know they will not get any consequences, and they'll get away with this. He knows he was behaving badly, so his upbringing taught him that much. There are thousands of women who have had a similar experience, if not more. They're often too scared or ashamed to talk about it, or they've come to assume it's just how things are and that it can't be changed. Whoever raised him might have done the best possible job they could, but in the end he's a grown man with 100% of the responsibility of his actions. Blaming his parents is just shifting that away from him, which makes the problem worse.
Load More Replies...We have zero evidence that the grandmother was an integral part of his upbringing. We have evidence that he fully knew that this was bad behaviour, so he was properly taught right from wrong. The grandma is shocked that he would do that, meaning he would never have done that sort of thing in front of her, because clearly she doesn’t find that acceptable. So no, the grandma was not the start of the problem. It starts with a culture of entitlement deeply anchored in society.
Load More Replies...its not uncommon for a mom or grand mom to defend their child in public only to turn around and tear them a new one in private. that said grandma insulting the girl was unacceptable. it is obvious she has been making excuses for him for a long time. nothing is going to change here.
No wonder he became like that see that grandma response? Wander from where he got attitude like that
hahahha! utter brilliance! grandmothers will always make excuses coz I bet he's lovely to her, just anyone else he does this too. funny how she said he wasnt enrolled in a degree at all. love it!
I couldn't believe the bit " if you do date I don't want you to be mislead, he isn't in school his brother is" like she's going to date a lying weird creap like him after that conversation.
Load More Replies...Oh that poor girl. He sounds like a future rapist! I may have to stop watching SVU.
Tamira was exceptionally polite and his behavior was deplorable, that being said a grandmother will almost always try to defend their grandchild. Now that doesn't mean that when he gets home she isn't gonna rip him a new one and make him feel awful the way only disappointing a grandparent does so hopefully that's what happened. I am not going to say she did anything wrong she IS his grandparent and their grandbabies will always be little angels to them (in my opinion because that's how my grandma was)
As with many narratives posted on Bored Panda, there is no evidence that this actually happened. I expect that most of these stories are fiction.
Sure, but this kind of stuff DOES happen, so ... there's just no real evidence to examine in one direction or the other.
Load More Replies...He's not a boy. He's a grown man with predatory behaviour he's fully aware is wrong.
Load More Replies...ugh. You blame her of course. Disgusting attitude. Not one bit of her response warranted any of those comments he made.
Load More Replies...Because, why not? Someone needs to stop him from being a complete creep!
Load More Replies...Uh what? That's weird. I have had a text like this sent to me. Not with the grandmother thing but a guy sent me something very similar to this. I told him to f**k off and he texted me the very next morning like nothing happened. I barely knew the guy. You'd be hard pressed to find many typo's in any of my texts because I don't type like that. I just don't. He was a smart business man that I met online but he came on waaayyy too strong and I immediately told him to back off. He sent me a d**k pic and when he did that I told him I'm not that type of girl and he was barking up the wrong tree so he could just move on. He wouldn't stop so I blocked him but not before he sent me creepy extremely graphic texts. I'm done with online dating forever.
Load More Replies...No, you chose to read it. How do you even know that it's fake? And please do not use the old "photoshop" excuse, as that's been said on almost every thread, and it's a lame, boring, and dumb excuse.
Load More Replies..."My mom looks forward to seeing you in church." Grandma is more likely to still be attending the same church she did back when Tamira was a teenager, and apparently Tamira's mom still does as well. Church communities can be tightly-knit enough to have exchanged contact information. This is really not far fetched.
Load More Replies...Saying that he's not a man is making excuses for his behaviour. He's an adult. He's a man. He's acting stupidly because he thinks that he can do so without repercussions - because "boys will be boys". And anyone saying that "he's not a man, he's a boy" is playing right into that. You're removing his responsibility to act like an adult by saying he's not actually grown, and that's toxic. There are hundreds of men just like him out there, some doing a lot worse, and having their actions downplayed as "immaturity". He knew exactly what he was doing, and how bad it was: see how he freaked out when she said she was sending it to his grandma? He knew. He knows there can be legal repercussions to what he did, but he's banking on Tamira not doing anything about it. It's predatory, and it's a behaviour that's promoted when people say it's just immaturity.
Load More Replies...I think she handled the situation rather poorly. She shouldn't have repeatedly made excuses and tried to defend him if he was being rude. They should have told him off, not politely tell him to apologise.
Load More Replies...If you pull off b******t like this kid did, you DESERVE to be judged for it - and smacked around verbally as well.
Load More Replies...Thousands of women could attest to it, so yes. And if you'd ask why they don't come forward, there are multiple possibilities: 1. they're ashamed 2. they're afraid of the guy harassing them further or worse 3. this happens so often to them that they just dismiss it, even if it affects them
Load More Replies...To handle that sort of situation only between the two people involved, there would have needed to be some sort of equal footing. The guy knew what he was doing was bad - he freaked out when she mentioned she was sending the texts to his grandma - and he purposefully did it anyway. There was no way to handle this in a way that didn't let him off for his hurtful behaviour other than involving someone else, because he didn't actually care about her well-being. Now she had the option of talking to a family member who might have some influence on him, so he might actually listen and learn. The other option would have been to report him for harassment to the police - d**k pics are illegal in many places. His family would probably have heard about it anyway, and he might have had severe legal repercussions (he wasn't expecting any, legal or otherwise). He was given a chance to learn better, that he would CLEARLY not have taken on his own.
Load More Replies...The fact that she was raised in a different time is no excuse for condoning his behaviour. She's seen the world change and should know better.
Load More Replies...Tamira acted so impeccably, politely and was crystal clear the entire time. She couldn't have handled that absolute prick any better. I find it hard to comprehend there are people who act like this twerp in real life, it seems so alien to me. Anyway Tamira seems like a stand up person and is really bossing life.
The grandma defending her grandson after that is truly disappointing. I can't believe she still criticized the girl after what her grandson did and actually tried to defend him. "Boys will be boys" is absolutely ridiculous. A normal guy with common sense wouldn't act the way her grandson did. That behavior is just inexcusable.
The cute part is when she said he was "confused" when he flat out lied about his degree. Gran clearly wasn't a great parent herself.
Load More Replies...well that was hilarious. tbh she handled it with way more class than she needed to. and yeah, grandmas 'boys will be boys' is b******t, he's apparently a man (wrinkly d**k hahaha), and needs to act like one.
This exchange really sums up so many of the debates we are having at the moment. 'Boys will be boys'. Yes, and girls will get harassed, insulted, raped and killed because of this kind of attitude and upbringing. Fortunately, not only the women are finally starting to fight back in earnest, but more and more men are also sick and tired of the definition of men as ever-horny neanderthals who have no control over themselves.
Amen. The whole attitude of 'boys will be boys', meaning they're incapable of controlling themselves, is harmful to everyone. Personally, every time I hear that b******t line, I tend to respond with; 'boys will be held accountable for their actions like everyone else'. And you should see the shocked looks I get. Like they legitimately never thought of it that way before. Crazy.
Load More Replies...The girl acted very polite at first (as would I), but when the guy sent that pic that’s when even I would get mad. She had a right to curse and everything, that guy is a jerk! It doesn’t matter if he’s a boy and he can’t handle rejections, he needs to be polite!! “He doesn’t need to be reminded of online manners” my butt. He so does. He started insulting her. That’s not any way to handle a rejection. She obviously was busy and just had a break up, so how would she have time for a relationship? My point is, the guy and the grandma handled it wrong (The guy way more than the gma) and the girl handled it perfectly!
"He doesn’t need to be reminded of online manners". That's actually correct - he's perfectly aware of online manners. Online manners shouldn't differ all that much from brickspace manners. See how he freaked out when she said she was sending this to his grandma? To know how bad this was, he had to be entirely aware of how he should have behaved.
Load More Replies...As someone who left an abusive husband only 6 months ago, I can tell you that the behavior of this "boy" is 100% that of an abusive (or potentially abusive) partner/friend/parent. The way he flips between panic, rage, insults, threats, bargaining, and all of that from being polite, charming, well-spoken: textbook example of the Abuse Cycle. Reading this felt like reading a text conversation that sums up the last 4 1/2 years of my life. And the fact that his g'ma doesn't see it and defends him is also textbook. Think about every abusive person whose mask is ripped off: most people who knew them thought they were "such a great guy/girl" or ""he/she was so great with the kids" because that's exactly the charade they lived out in front of everyone. They are master manipulators. It's about control, and when someone sees the red flag waving and acts independently, the panic sets in. They don't "lose control", they just switch tactics.
We see it a lot in the media since #MeToo gained traction. "But he's never been sexually inappropriate with ME!" Well you got lucky, but do you really think he would do that to every woman he meets? That's not how abusers work. They abuse the people they think they can get away with.
Load More Replies...He and his grandmother both are insulting and disgracing the male gender. Actual men have the mental capacity and self-respect to realize that abuse (emotional, psychological, physical, sexual) is never ok and that only pathetic males with no dignity would try to harass or assault anyone (not just females) . Both he and his grandmother are sick for what they did and said. His grandmother was completely nuts for daring to mention that the girl could have been more ‘courteous’ with her deceitful, and assaulting, grandson. Clearly, the grandmother and her grandson are the ones without any bit of manners seeing how both of them behaved with the girl. I am glad there are actual men who are just as tired of the misogynistic nonsense that women go through because of those pathetic males and their apologists as women are and they’re trying to help end this nonsense with their support.
I'm thinking that behavior runs in the family, so granny thinks it's normal.
Load More Replies...I'm a guy. I cannot express how this entitled mindset is wrong. The truly sad thing is that it exists at all. "boys will be boys" is the lamest of excuses boys who aren't taught and disciplined for this kind of behavior are what just what we've seen by so many men in recent news. Grandma needs to instruct and discipline her grandson or she may see him on the wrong end of legal action
She absolutely handled that perfectly. I'm going to keep this in mind next time I'm digitally flashed.
I have had this happen to me and I just flat-out told them "I don't ever want to receive another picture like this from you. It is inappropriate and belittles both of us. I can tell you from conversations with my friends that none of us ever want to get a picture like this from anyone. Don't do this to anyone ever again."
Load More Replies..."that's just the kind of guy I am. Very considerate and sensitive to your needs above my own." .. Yeah... usually when a guy says something like that....
HOW WAS SHE IN ANY WAY LEADING HER ON??? SHE LITERALLY SAID I M FEELING REALLY UNCOMFORTABLE PLEASE STOP TEXTING ME???? SO DUMB!!!
Yes. There are serious red flags in his behavior.
Load More Replies...Gross. Dude, that's sexual harassment. Grandma, you're an enabler and you're the reason boys think they can objectify and treat women like s**t. My son would NEVER do or say anything like that to a woman and has NEVER heard the term, "Boys will be boys" because it's pure, sexist, b******t. My son AND daughter treat people with respect because "people are people, and people deserve respect." That's OUR motto. And I'm not somebody who makes my son hold doors for women, etc. I make my children both hold doors for other people, because it's kind and it's not a boy's job or a girl's job it's a common courtesy, decent human being job.
And, high-five for Roller Derby 8) (I'm co-head of bout for my city's league, though not a player myself)
Load More Replies...My favorite part is him congratulating himself about how good of a guy he is for telling her she doesn't "have" to do anything sexual the "first few dates". Like he's really giving her a break or something. That would have been my "f**k off" point.
That f*****g sociopath dirtbag makes my skin crawl. And his grandmother had the nerve to scold the gal for her behavior? The whole exchange made me die a little inside, but BRAVO to this woman for standing up for herself and exposing his clown penis douchbaggery to his granny!
He's probably not a sociopath though. Don't use mental illness to justify bad behaviour, it inherently removes some of the responsibility.
Load More Replies...This young man needs help. He's aggressive and delusional and has some really horrible ideas about women. When his grandmother says, "he does not take rejection well--big or small"--that is evident in his email chain, even before he showed his penis. He needs lots of therapy. He is an angry, angry young man. I'd be worried about any woman who got involved with him.
His number one problem is that he feels entitled to Tami's interest, affection, etc. That is REALLY not uncommon, and in extreme cases we get things like campus shootings where the guys felt rejected because no women were interested in him. But again: there are thousands of guys like that, a varying degrees of creepiness. It's not all of them, but it becomes dangerous not being able to tell a genuinely nice guy apart from a Nice Guy™ until he turns aggressive and abusive.
Load More Replies...Anyone who uses the phrase "boys will be boys" to try and excuse an individual man or boy of bad behavior of any sort is insulting the male gender.
There is no excuse for sending someone an unsolicited picture of your banana and plums. None.
This shows the basic miss education in young men with the opposite sex. Just because he thought about her and "changed" his life for her. Without her ever knowing, He thinks he has the right to her. She is a human being not some thing to have or own. For the damn record just because your nice to a girl doesn't you a right or consent to touch her or send d**k pics or anything like that. Gentlemen the f**k up!! Also that grandma could be better, That is no way to talk to a girl.
He knew that what he was doing was wrong, so he did understand the concept of appropriate behaviour with a woman. However, something that might not have been spelled out early, but highly reinforced once he reached adulthood, is that men get away with that type of behaviour all the time. Women are too scared or too afraid to speak, and when they do, they get blamed for it. Or whoever should be dealing the punishment is far too lenient because we've come to expect that type of behaviour, so much so that we think it's not something we can change. It does colour education of children from a very young age, at home and in communities, but that's not what turns them violent when they reach adulthood. It's a society that allows it.
Load More Replies...Thus screams of narcissistic behavior! My crazy X used this type of gas lighting on me all the time when his fake sweet attitude was met with my pessimistic attitude! The mask soon falls when these creeps don't get their way! What was his game plan if they started to see each other? Trust me,they always have a trick up their sleeve!
I would not be surprised if a few years from now someone is interviewing this young woman on Investigation Discovery about how she tried to warn his family about the grossly aberrant of this future serial killer. However, I am astonished that "Grandma" thought the recipient of this garbage could have "handled herself more courteously." The entire time I was reading this I was thinking how gracious the young woman was being in the face of unwarranted creepiness. Grandma should stop making excuses for his vile behavior and get him some help before denial leads to tragedy.
"Boys will be boys" is such a stupid, b******t excuse. Like, yeah, when they're little BOYS maybe they don't know that other people don't always want to see their c***s, but by the time you're a MAN, you can't use that as an excuse. I mean, people don't take aggravated assault charges between two men as "boys will be boys" as though it's the same as children play fighting, so there's no excuse for sexual aggression to be totally swell just because nobody broke an arm over it.
This guy is just a lunatic. She should rather go to Police with it than send it to his grandmother which, by the way, is trying to justify his behavior, which is even more weird. Some proper authorities should take care of this guy or something really bad can happen in nearby future.
OMG - Grandma is going to do absolutely nothing and then say "he was always such a nice boy" when he assaults a woman who rejects him. To say Tami could have been more courteous when she was perfectly polite right up to the pic being sent, shows Grandma will take his side no matter what. The only thing I would say is that Tami should perhaps have been less polite and stopped texting at about "not even doing anything sexual". That was the point weird flipped over into creepy and he just took her politeness as encouragement. Perhaps "I've got a boyfriend" would also have been a good idea - don't share that you're single, or just split up until you know where this random texter is going with their chat.
After "I feel like you're trying to get rid of me" I would have stopped answering, or answered "good guess, you're smart !" ... Why do we women feel the need to be nice and polite ? It only encourages them to go on and on and on !! (What we mean) - "what we say "- what they hear : (I'm not interested in you) - "I'm not looking for a relationship right now" - Just wait until I'm ready for you ! (I don't want to date you) - "I have a boyfriend" - If I was single I would totally date you ! I'm gonna dump him tonight and call you tomorrow morning ! (You're f*****g scary !) - "I'm uncomfortable" - Comfort me ! See what I mean ? I'd rather be perceived as a b***h and left in peace than harrassed by a freak for being too polite...
Because when women aren't nice and polite, too often men turn violent. Google "women killed for saying no". There is no universal Best Way To React when it comes to aggressive men, because any of them might decide to become physically violent because of a different reason. The fact that you're blaming the woman for not reacting like you think she should have, instead of denouncing the behaviour of the GUY underlines that you think that his behaviour was normal, and not worth working on changing instead. That's part of the problem.
Load More Replies...Boys will be boys??? Ugh, not that line again. A better line is "Children should be expected to make mistakes - correct them." But this is a high school graduate so that line doesn't apply at all.
I’m sorrh but when people send you pics like that your supposed to have nice ‘ladylike’ manners when you haven’t talked them it forever I’m sorry but that is completely biased Let’s not forget the boys will be boys part Pictures like that I’m sorry NO that’s not just being a boy F*** all of that THAT IS NO EXCUSE!!!!
Grandma sucks! Tell your mom to have a word with Grandma at church. No one, male or female, should be that abusive in a text conversation and assume a relationship where none exists.
This guy is severely detached. His social skills are odd, he lies, and he feels entitled for a "return pic" because he sent one. His grandma is the problem, she thinks "boys will be boys" is the right answer? The only "boys" who act like that all have one thing in common, single.
The man is the problem, not the grandma. His behaviour is not uncommon, like thousands of women could attest to. It's entitlement and manipulation, and it's rampant in society. But he's sane, and 100% in control of his actions and 100% aware that he's being a creep, and there is not a single person more responsible for this than him.
Load More Replies...Grandma's being a bit too lenient with little dicker here. Boys will be boys?? She's excusing his disgusting behaviour and creepy undertones on his gender. If a girl makes a mistake she's not just "being a girl" she's a b***h. When he did this, it wasn't because he is male, he's just a scum bag
No wonder he acts the way he does with family like that. This is repulsive in every way.
I’d be saving it and if he tries to contact you again, I’d take it to the police. Think, about the politician who is now in jail for doing just that very thing! And grandma? Thinking she MIGHTstill date him? I think she is seriously deluded, and I bed she just tells him he picked the wrong girl, again.. and doesn’t do much else. No means no regardless of who or how you know someone! He may end up assaulting someone, and his grandma has some responsibility behind that! So, don’t toss that conversation. Save it, just in case, like for at least a year! And I’d let your mom know, and see how grandma responded and I bet your mom will not be a happy camper at all let alone a happy and devoted Christian when she has a few things to say to grandma there! But I’d be more aware from now on.
THIS GUY IS A EFFING ARSEHOLE. A very "no means yes" kind of guy. Honestly, there are so many things wrong with him inwon't even say it. 'Leading me on'? Seriously, WTF
Grandma needs to take him by the scruff of the neck and make sure the pervert gets the message. It is not ok or hormonal what he is saying online, it is seedy and scarey. Dirty mouthed wee sod
I have a question: why do people send d**k pics? Do you think you might get a root or something...?
She should have just blocked his number from the moment he didn't believe her about getting a new phone. Also ridiculous that he lied about getting a degree! SMH
she should have blocked his number? It was in the middle of a text. How would that work? You're blaming her.
Load More Replies...All I can think is that this guy is seriously mentally unstable, and his delusional interactions with women just can't be the only issue with this guy. I just can't imagine that an otherwise normal average guy could have such an overwhelmingly warped perception of how to relate to other people (e.g., women) without family or friends noticing a problem. Can any psych professionals weigh in here?
Blaming it on mental illness or disabilities is removing his responsibility. His behaviour is far too common to be anything but learned - because men know that usually they won’t get any consequences from it. They are fully aware that this is bad behaviour, and they know that women are not likely to expose them. And when they do, people blame it on parenting, “boys will be boys”, or the woman herself. It’s a social problem, not a mental health one.
Load More Replies...boys will be boys?? Sorry granny but i feel kind of disappointed... anyway. Tamira's reaction was polite and clear, if she used some strong vocabulary at the end... well he looked for it.
B******T! "Boys will be boys" and "You should handle yourself more courteously" EXCUSE ME?! F**k that s**t! It's quite obvious from his behavior he's a f*****g a*****e. There are so many things wrong with this. "Boys will be boys" more like "This is what you call an assshit."
" I got the side chicks and I'm doing you a favor"? If he had three women he's hooking up with he wouldn't need to abuse and harass this poor woman. Guys like this suffer from the small d**k syndrome. Have zero esteem or have had a single negative experience and then take it out in every woman to have ever existed. As if the women are the problem. Too egotistical to look within and realize it's them, not the entirety of woman kind. Too many excuses made by family. If I found out a close family member was behaving like this I'd stage an intervention. Get them the mental health care the need.
Grandma's condoning the behavior with boy will be boys and this lifelong boy will find himself unemployed and in legal trouble many times in the future.
That guy is batshit crazy. Good for her for standing up to the prick. Apple didn't fall far from the tree though; the grandma is just as crazy.
Everyone is talking about grandma, but much more important and memorable is how mature Tamara handled it. She could have ridiculed him from the start but she kept talking calmly and nicely with him, she even tried to have a normal conversation about his study after all his annoying and pathetic 'seducing tricks' . And when, out of the blue, this d**k pic materialized, she did a very sensible thing. Even if grandma won't do anything about it it, he will, from now on, be so utterly ashamed and shocked, that he will never send d***s into space again.
HOW THE F**K WAS SHE LEADING HIM ON??? SHE LITERALLY SAID I FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE PLEASE STOP TALKING TO ME???? SO DUMB!
If this is an actual exchange, this man has a serious and dangerous problem. Sending the text to the grandma may seem extreme, but if his family will not step in first, who will? Some might think it should be some "mental health professional", but unless he seeks help, or his family helps him seek help, no professional has any right or reason to intervene. Sadly, without family assistance, his "help" will likely start with the police.
He's likely not mentally ill at all. This is actually pretty common behaviour. It's a socialization problem, where men are taught by society that they are entitled to women's affections (conditionally or not) and that if they show harassing behaviour like the above, even with full awareness of how wrong it is, they're not likely to suffer any consequence from it. This is a completely sane choice. Not a good one, but it's not mental illness.
Load More Replies...Shame on that enabling grandma. Very disappointed as one would expect more from her. She's part of the problem.
Please blame the man first and foremost for his actions. With no knowledge of the grandma's position in the guy's life, it's once again shifting the blame from a grown man for his action to another person. That is also enabling.
Load More Replies...Well, first of all she's his grandmother. His GRANDMOTHER, of course she's gonna excuse him. Don't get me wrong he seems like a complete ducking loser idiot, but that the grandmother thinks a bit more highly of him is not very strange.
I know a lot of grandmothers who would have kicked his backside for that kind of obnoxious behaviour. Don't excuse bad behaviour from people just because they've managed to get old. They're the same as they always were.
Load More Replies...Okay I relate to this 100% and have had so many similar incidents of delusion and unwanted ween pics. I want to believe this is true ( for my ability to relate, not because I enjoy the creep lol ) but all of the typing seems so similar, and not to say grandmas can't type a story but I know my grandparents aren't the most tech savvy. Maybe I'm wrong. Don't down vote me, share your opinion.
Depends on the age of the grandparent, but if she has a cellphone at all she would be more likely to take great care to write properly than most of our generation. I understand your hesitancy to believe this particular story, but as you've said yourself, you can easily relate. Thousands of women can. As such, whether this particular story is real or fake is a bit besides the point: all of this will have happened to so many other women for real, who might have been too embarrassed, ashamed, or scared to do anything about it, including sharing their experience. It's still perfectly useful as a tool for discussion, so that a lot of women this kind of thing has happened to can feel validated and safer to say so.
Load More Replies...Well if grandmother has that kind of attitude its obvious boy is growing up for F**up creep. Better to stay away from the whole family.
Grandmothers everywhere will have that kind of attitude towards their grandkids, regardless of gender. Not saying it's right, but that guy obviously knew that what he was doing was wrong. He wouldn't have done that in front of grandma, so she could not imagine him doing something like that.
Load More Replies...Great to see this behavior shown up on my phone! Hopefully he willllll mature from this mess he caused himself!
This Granny is making excuses. Come on, "Been more courteous"? Yeah, what was she supposed to say? And, boys will be boys is simply people blinded by stereotypes. This guy was creepy and I feel sorry for Tamira, but she did an awesome job in getting rid of him and texting his Grandmother.
Gran?! Why! Why! Did u try to excuse that and HELL "boys will be boys" I'm so done with bs like this I feel so bad for Tamira and only when she said she contacted his grandmother did he suddenly feel oh so sorry EVERYONE we have to be better this is ridiculous
Who are these guys? How do you reach adulthood and not understand the difference between basic human decency and flirting. I didn't spit on you so I must want you?!?
There is a thing called "blocking a number" once it got weird she should have taken that route instead of dragging it out and arguing with him. it's what adults do.
Dude has too much potential to be a serial rapist and/or chronic abuser. His brother could end up seeing his bro on a daily basis at work...and not as a colleague. I hope she got in touch with someone in law enforcement about him.
saying that some girls would live to f**k you? Excuse me? Honestly, who do you think you are?
she did not lead him on, she was polite and said she was not interested and going through a breakup. So, are girls supposed to be complete A******S to people they're not interested in?
I would be worried about this guy and other women as well, I agree no apology needed he just needs help. Maybe grandma was married to a male empowered ego too and sees nothing wrong with his disgusting behavior??? Disturbing to say the least!
Grandma dropped the ball here. If my son or grandson had done this, I certainly wouldn't be trying to correct his resume, I'd be sending Tami a videotape of me kicking his a*s!!
The boy is a sociopath with enough anger and kindness to blow someone up and then apologize for it but not without saying that it was their fault that made him do it.
Granny totally missed it. Not only did he send a completely unsolicited d**k pick, then blamed T, he also lied about his schooling and what he was doing. The whole thing about 50 pounds of muscle also shows a skewed body image. He's got some serious issues and if Granny doesn't do something about it, he's going down a wrong path. I hope this young lady takes NO guilt on her shoulders. She's was much more courteous, polite and understanding than I know I would have been.
Well, we can see where this dude gets his unacceptable (not to mention sick) behavior. Both he and granny are idiots.
Thanks Panda...I really needed another reason to withdraw from humanity...
Things like this need to come complete with a facebook profile screenshot and link, IMO.
Is someone out there actually responding favourably to d**k pics? Because I can't understand how they think it's a good idea and then respond with confusion to the 'wtf!'.
Believe it or not yeah. Yeah there are quite a few out there.
Load More Replies...Ewww, what a creepy guy! It's amazing how he completely confused his brother's life with his own. Very interesting way to treat someone that who is his sole inspiration / trying to do a favour for / have a one-night-stand with / madly in love with (his story changes multiple times).
She barely remembered the guy but knows how text his grandmother?? That seems more than just made up.
Gee whiz - With Grannies comments I can see why her Grandson will remain a YUGE loser with the ladies.
The scariest part of this whole thing is the fact that this guy wants to be a cop. A COP! And you know, despite it all, that he WILL get hired as a cop somewhere. And he will learn nothing about any sort of human relations, but will remain in this juvenile mentality, ego swollen further by badge and gun, as he goes about doing "police work".
Grandma The Enabler. What is wrong with supposed adults nowadays? No telling what misery that lying creep will cause other women in the future.
As a boy, I know the correct expression is: Boys will be held accountable for stupid a*s behavior, so they better get their s**t together or they'll be faced with the consequences! There grandma, that's how it's supposed to be.
This entire thing is disgusting. I would be worried about that guy. He doesnt sound right in the head.
That guy needs some setious help, that behavior is downright ertifiable. Also, the woman should have blocked him loooong before he sent the pic and definitely not engaged him like that. Sometimes being "rude" by blocking someone right away is the better course of action...
Grandmas attitude (imo) contributes to the problem. It seems many family members are completely out of the loop when it comes to facing the truth about their sons/ grandsons. This B******t tendency of dismissing unacceptable behaviour as another case where they’re “just boys just being boys’. This minimizing of such immaturity by family members (especially by other females!) ‘could’ help allow/encourage them to continue on (potentially) increasing seriously harmful behaviour and consequences. As some of these emotionally immature males age it seems they try to “convince themselves and others” that their overinflated egotistical ‘claims’ are not easily ‘seen through’ by others, yet realistically they easily are! (and even by themselves too, if they are honest about it!) smh 🤷♀️ I hope he ‘gets it’ instead of ignoring it (but I seriously have my doubts, based on his insecurities and false bravado! (but hey, this is just ‘my two cents worth’) 😉
I had a boy in high school pursue me relentlessly. I was kind to him, but didn't in any way encourage his behavior. Theno ne day he got a little too creepy with a letter he left me when he broke into my locker, and I told him to stop. From then on, he showed up at my house and threw rocks at my window, sped by my house screeching his tires, and left me horribly cruel and nasty letters telling me what a b***h I was. It was scary and unsettling, and a very bad time in my life. Indeed, some men don't take rejection well at all, and feel that they've been slighted if every women they ask out doesn't immediately fall on their knees in gratitude. There's something rotten in Denmark about the male psyche sometimes.
Tami handled herself with a lot more courtesy than he deserved and she's a damn a saint for not going off on his grandmother, tbh. I'm a lot more shocked at the grandma's reaction, even if he's her grandson, she had the audacity to reprimand the woman on how she acted? Holy c**p, no wonder he's such a pos, it must run in the family.
The reason guys act like this is becuase of parents and grandparents like this. I freaking hate parents how think 'My little darling could never do anything like this' BS. I get it it...horny guys do stupid things. I was a stupid horny guy too but the idea you that you send a d**k pic to somone you haven't seen since high school is 'get some mental health help' time.
The reason guys act like this is because they know they will not get any consequences, and they'll get away with this. He knows he was behaving badly, so his upbringing taught him that much. There are thousands of women who have had a similar experience, if not more. They're often too scared or ashamed to talk about it, or they've come to assume it's just how things are and that it can't be changed. Whoever raised him might have done the best possible job they could, but in the end he's a grown man with 100% of the responsibility of his actions. Blaming his parents is just shifting that away from him, which makes the problem worse.
Load More Replies...We have zero evidence that the grandmother was an integral part of his upbringing. We have evidence that he fully knew that this was bad behaviour, so he was properly taught right from wrong. The grandma is shocked that he would do that, meaning he would never have done that sort of thing in front of her, because clearly she doesn’t find that acceptable. So no, the grandma was not the start of the problem. It starts with a culture of entitlement deeply anchored in society.
Load More Replies...its not uncommon for a mom or grand mom to defend their child in public only to turn around and tear them a new one in private. that said grandma insulting the girl was unacceptable. it is obvious she has been making excuses for him for a long time. nothing is going to change here.
No wonder he became like that see that grandma response? Wander from where he got attitude like that
hahahha! utter brilliance! grandmothers will always make excuses coz I bet he's lovely to her, just anyone else he does this too. funny how she said he wasnt enrolled in a degree at all. love it!
I couldn't believe the bit " if you do date I don't want you to be mislead, he isn't in school his brother is" like she's going to date a lying weird creap like him after that conversation.
Load More Replies...Oh that poor girl. He sounds like a future rapist! I may have to stop watching SVU.
Tamira was exceptionally polite and his behavior was deplorable, that being said a grandmother will almost always try to defend their grandchild. Now that doesn't mean that when he gets home she isn't gonna rip him a new one and make him feel awful the way only disappointing a grandparent does so hopefully that's what happened. I am not going to say she did anything wrong she IS his grandparent and their grandbabies will always be little angels to them (in my opinion because that's how my grandma was)
As with many narratives posted on Bored Panda, there is no evidence that this actually happened. I expect that most of these stories are fiction.
Sure, but this kind of stuff DOES happen, so ... there's just no real evidence to examine in one direction or the other.
Load More Replies...He's not a boy. He's a grown man with predatory behaviour he's fully aware is wrong.
Load More Replies...ugh. You blame her of course. Disgusting attitude. Not one bit of her response warranted any of those comments he made.
Load More Replies...Because, why not? Someone needs to stop him from being a complete creep!
Load More Replies...Uh what? That's weird. I have had a text like this sent to me. Not with the grandmother thing but a guy sent me something very similar to this. I told him to f**k off and he texted me the very next morning like nothing happened. I barely knew the guy. You'd be hard pressed to find many typo's in any of my texts because I don't type like that. I just don't. He was a smart business man that I met online but he came on waaayyy too strong and I immediately told him to back off. He sent me a d**k pic and when he did that I told him I'm not that type of girl and he was barking up the wrong tree so he could just move on. He wouldn't stop so I blocked him but not before he sent me creepy extremely graphic texts. I'm done with online dating forever.
Load More Replies...No, you chose to read it. How do you even know that it's fake? And please do not use the old "photoshop" excuse, as that's been said on almost every thread, and it's a lame, boring, and dumb excuse.
Load More Replies..."My mom looks forward to seeing you in church." Grandma is more likely to still be attending the same church she did back when Tamira was a teenager, and apparently Tamira's mom still does as well. Church communities can be tightly-knit enough to have exchanged contact information. This is really not far fetched.
Load More Replies...Saying that he's not a man is making excuses for his behaviour. He's an adult. He's a man. He's acting stupidly because he thinks that he can do so without repercussions - because "boys will be boys". And anyone saying that "he's not a man, he's a boy" is playing right into that. You're removing his responsibility to act like an adult by saying he's not actually grown, and that's toxic. There are hundreds of men just like him out there, some doing a lot worse, and having their actions downplayed as "immaturity". He knew exactly what he was doing, and how bad it was: see how he freaked out when she said she was sending it to his grandma? He knew. He knows there can be legal repercussions to what he did, but he's banking on Tamira not doing anything about it. It's predatory, and it's a behaviour that's promoted when people say it's just immaturity.
Load More Replies...I think she handled the situation rather poorly. She shouldn't have repeatedly made excuses and tried to defend him if he was being rude. They should have told him off, not politely tell him to apologise.
Load More Replies...If you pull off b******t like this kid did, you DESERVE to be judged for it - and smacked around verbally as well.
Load More Replies...Thousands of women could attest to it, so yes. And if you'd ask why they don't come forward, there are multiple possibilities: 1. they're ashamed 2. they're afraid of the guy harassing them further or worse 3. this happens so often to them that they just dismiss it, even if it affects them
Load More Replies...To handle that sort of situation only between the two people involved, there would have needed to be some sort of equal footing. The guy knew what he was doing was bad - he freaked out when she mentioned she was sending the texts to his grandma - and he purposefully did it anyway. There was no way to handle this in a way that didn't let him off for his hurtful behaviour other than involving someone else, because he didn't actually care about her well-being. Now she had the option of talking to a family member who might have some influence on him, so he might actually listen and learn. The other option would have been to report him for harassment to the police - d**k pics are illegal in many places. His family would probably have heard about it anyway, and he might have had severe legal repercussions (he wasn't expecting any, legal or otherwise). He was given a chance to learn better, that he would CLEARLY not have taken on his own.
Load More Replies...The fact that she was raised in a different time is no excuse for condoning his behaviour. She's seen the world change and should know better.
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