Guy Stops Sharing Group’s Project To Girl Who ‘Texts Her Boyfriend Instead Of Helping’, And It Escalates Quickly
Group projects are the worst, plain and simple. Every person is given a role to play, yet no matter what, the brunt of the work falls on some members shoulders more than others and without fail there is one member who just doesn’t bother showing up at all.
Well one group leader had had enough of their laziest members shenanigans and took it upon themselves to let her know in a pretty brutal way. Scroll down below to read the hilarious and heated text message exchange between the two group members when the girl finds out the hard way her classmates are over it. (Cover image: University of Wolverhampton)
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When I die, I want the students who I did group projects with to be my pallbearers so they can let me down one last time.
This happened during a college project..verbal presentation on terrorism. I was paired up with a girl to do the formation and current issues with the IRA. Our first project meeting, she shows up for 2 minutes, just long enough to say "I need to go get dinner." The second meeting at a coffee shop involved me giving her an outline of how we would do the presentation (headings-subheadings-finer points). She takes the printout and says "I have to meet someone to workout." and leaves. I approach the professor to tell them the issue, he says "just do your part, I will ask questions, don't help her and don't tell her what you get for a grade." I did my part, then look over to see her with MY outline trying to stumble her way through the presentation. He asks her questions..she stumbles looking at me to help her. He asks me the same questions, I answer fully. I got an A. She comes yo me later and says "Can you believe he only gave us a C- on that paper." Yeah..uh-huh. (giggle)
@Aunt Messy - No.The purpose of the group project, aside from learning about the topic, is to learn to work as a group. If one group member cannot be bothered to do their bit, then it could affect the team. Thats a lesson that everyone needs to learn. Your 'suck it up and do what needs doing' attitude just enables flakers and bullies to continue sponging off others work. I think the professor did the right thing by being lenient in giving the flaker a C grade and not an F or worse, calling out that student for flaking, in class. reading your comment, I hope to god you're not a team leader or manager or teacher. You're attitude in this regard is terrible.
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If the group leader handed this conversation over to the principal she could get kicked out, No, She SHOULD get kicked out for threatening a student. But I guess she's digging her own grave anyway. It would just speed up the process.
A bunch of people here seem to think it is acceptable for a grown adult to ignore their responsibilities and it is other's obligation to handle these people with kid gloves. They arent her parents; they don't need to coddle her and remind her that she's a big girl and she needs to help out. The BASIC requirement for group projects is for everyone in the group to participate in the project. If she can't even do that, they shouldn't be forced to carry her or give her delicate warnings.
You reap what you sow. Clearly she didn't take the class seriously and she has to learn her lesson. No sympathy for her, she totally deserved it.
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I'm a college teacher and I have to set group assignments sometimes because they are complicated but essential learning tools. I always tell my students that each member of the group will get identical scores BUT they can give bonus or malus marks to individual members (I will always agree on the bonus but they know I can veto the malus. I don't require proof, and most of the time I knew anyway). Every year this rule is applied a couple of times and it makes the students feel much better since slackers don't get free Passes.
Group projects: BARF!!! There is always a lazy butt. My coworker is a student employee. She spent all spring semester on two group projects. One girl bailed, another guy was drunk when he did show up to the group meetings and another just seemed to vanish. The drunk guy toward the end became super unilateral and bossy until they finally worked around him. He'd do things like assign parts to do, then text that he forgot to do it or did the wrong one. She ended up finishing up the project with two people, three people did 6 people's work. No way to report them, no peer review. Then a few weeks later they get a text from drunk bossy guy asking what time the exam is: the day after the exam. Straight up karmic wonderment filled her face. It was lovely. She still chuckles.
Like when you're driving down the street with someone tailgating you and they change lanes just in time for that person in front of them that's slowing way down to make a turn. You smile as you drive past them and even chuckle when they are now 6 cars behind you....
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I HATE group projects, there is always at least 1 person who does nothing. I know that in a work environment we have to work in groups but in that environment we are PAID to deal with that jerk. When I'm in school I'm paying a grand a class to have to tolerate these people. That is completely unacceptable. Good for them kicking her out. I bet she waited until the night before it was due to even bother looking at anything.
The professor/teacher should let it be known that people who don't help the group in the group project will receive a zero. They should also say to let them know if there is someone in the group who isn't contributing.
Uhg, reminds me of an undergrad course Marine biology. Had to work on a poster project with 5 people (all girls, one guy). The guy wasn't that invested, but did his thing (though quite slowly). Suddenly, the dominant girl of our group send an e-mail to the professor saying that guy wasn't doing his job and if he please could be removed from our group, with the rest of us in the CC. Said she consulted all of us, which definitely wasn't true. I was furious (and I don't get furious often), and replied right away how this WASN'T consulted with the rest of the group, and how we first have to at least talk to the guy, and with each other, before e-mailing the actual professor, that I found this highly unprofessional. Professor agreed with me through a short reply that we could figure it out ourselves. We got an 8/10 in the end and the guy and I became friends during our graduate program because we both remembered this incident. :')
In 8th grade, we were put into group projects, I got the 2 dumbest asses in the class. Since they knew I was smart and knew how to research and write good notes, they all dumped it all on me. I did the whole project in 2 days (as well as juggle other 8th grade stuff.) about the local fauna in the African Savanna. It was easy, basic stuff if you read a Zoo Book. I went to my teacher and explained my "group." She said, "Give them your copy of notes and PowerPoint, I'll send you to the library or something before you start. Like, wha? Really? When we were called to present, I was asked to go to the office, they put me in the lounge and just chilled out playing games. Went back to the classroom and from what I was told, the Teacher just took my notes and read my work while the others were given an F and asked to sit down. Since my project wasn't perfect, I got a B average but still was glad to get some justice out of it.
I had a class once we were asked to mark groupmates out of 5. After the course had ended, I noticed that this wasn't included in the grade breakdown. I asked him, and he casually explained that the student's final grade was multiplied by this number. Wow... in most courses your group's evaluation of your work ethic is grossly undervalued, but in this case he went WAY overboard. Imagine a student who does above-average work across the board, manages a 70% in the final, all coursework, and the group project. Unsurprisingly, the group leader evaluates their work ethic at 3.5/5. And bam, the student has failed the course. (.70 * .70 = .49). And those guys that had done almost no work so I gave them a 2/5? Doesn't matter if they had a 100% in every other exam and assignment, I had single-handedly failed them. What if I just didn't like them much? That instructor then left on sabbatical and the faculty was left scrambling to re-evaluate all of the students in a more fair manner.
She obviously never heard of the saying "you catch more flies with honey than vinegar." She went to Level 5 Cray Cray, skipping right past minorly annoying. Her boyfriend she watch out.
Her response wasn’t surprising, considering her participation in the project.
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Yeah, group work sucks, I had three at uni and there was always two or three who messed it up, I had one bring me her 'contribution' half an hour before and it dropped all the formatting out everyone elses work leaving me standing out front manually inputting everyones work...we got top marks! and my personal favourite the day before a presentation is due a girl turns up to the last meeting with her boyfriend and tells me 'MY' idea won't work infront of the group...it was currently the only idea to rescue the fact that only two out of nine of us had done any work...to which I replied 'so what is your idea that you are going to get everyone to do in the next 30 minutes before the building is shut for the night?' to which she just repeated herself so I asked if we were all done and left....the presentation went ok rather than crashed and burned...
What a nightmare of a human being. I hope she changes for the better
Good one these guys. I had a group project too in grad school where we kicked a guy out. Our professor tired to have us reason with the guy but we stuck to our guns so the prof made us all put our names on every part of the project we did individually and have the other members sign off on each other then present a different part than what we each did. Since all of us worked together and that guy never showed up, we were all fine with whatever part we did and that guy fumbled out bad. The professor failed him and he threw a tantrum. Our group then went to happy hour with As sans him.
Good for standing up for the group and removing the slacker, but I have to say, any group project I ever worked on, there was ALWAYS at least one of those. :/ Sadly I was never smart enough to rally the group to dump them. Always figured that small bit of being carried only lasts for that, then they need to explain why they don't know the subject they just did a group project on. lol
Sports are never an excuse for missing course work. (RE: NCAA manual) -Prof. M
What a nasty b*tch. Threatens to get him harmed?? What a harpee. Hope she enjoys failing
This is inexcusable. I’d let the professor or teacher know, and that this person does nothing and was being denied access to the project information , and get no credit. Something for nothing has its very real limits.
I went back to college as an adult, extremely motivated to do well (graduated Summa Cum Laude for my Bachelor's, on track to do the same for my Master's). I can't tell you how many group projects, especially undergrad, consisted of slackers---some of whom even tried to cajole me into creating their section for them! I always refused, having previous experience working for companies that had a few employees just like them. So, I'd always make sure the presentation was divided up so everyone had to create and present their own section. The profs could always tell who made the effort and who didn't. The worst one was where I had one member of the group who not only slacked off when we were trying to get the presentation together, he got arrested for drunk driving---and put in jail---the night before we were to present. He got his "one phone call" 1 hour before class, and that's when I found out (I was the group leader). BTW, that presentation was the final exam!
Once I was in a psychology group project and I did all the work for a slacker because I didn't want her to slow us down. When she found out, she became furious and extremely paranoid. She told my then boyfriend I was a horrible evil b*tch. We should have done the project about her.
One group project....5 members...4 actively doing our part and contributing to the whole...1 student never showed. On the day of the presentation, she took our notes and SUMMARIZED what we had done. That was her contribution. The group talked to the prof, but he already knew she didn't get a grade.
I had a similar situation to this. I got paired with this cokehead of a chick for an undergrad class project (teaching robotics to working-class children). To make a long story short, I made at least 75% of the work (project desing, finding the school and the class group, making the slides, finding cheap robotics projects to make, buy materials, etc.). All she did was read slides in class (both in the school and in our college deadlines), try and finish up the robotic projects, and ask for money for materials she didn't even buy. Got scolded by the school's teacher because she did nothing in one of the final sessions (because she didn't buy any materials) and Ms. Coke left me hung to dry in the final term. I left her out of the Google Slides I made and she had to read a previous version (I changed A LOT of the information in the project, because of that and because there were things to correct). She threatened me with "spiritual karma" and badmouthed the professor to the Dean.
"Um you know i had a volleyball game!" is like the classic "Sorry I feel asleep"
Wait. I need to know how this ended! What happened did she keep texting???
Yeah.....I have seen it...just dump her over the side...useless baggage.
From the teacher's perspective, so much has gone wrong here already. One good way of solving this is to have students prepare a so called group contract, thereby discussing their mode of working together. Besides, kicking-out members should always be the last resort and not go without teacher consultation. The way these people write leads to the serious question if they are mature enough for this kind of work, though.
On the good side, this is a perfect example of how to teach students about socialism ! A few people doing all the work for others that don't want to work, and over time and multiple projects, the grades will drop and then everyone will fail. Yippee !
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or, you know, she could've had the balls to actually do some work and not expect to be treated like a queen and have other to all the work for her
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That is not a 'female tactic'. It is a generic a*****e tactic.
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Well you can have her and support her for the rest of your life cuz the most she can do is text you. Better have a good job!
Load More Replies... When I die, I want the students who I did group projects with to be my pallbearers so they can let me down one last time.
This happened during a college project..verbal presentation on terrorism. I was paired up with a girl to do the formation and current issues with the IRA. Our first project meeting, she shows up for 2 minutes, just long enough to say "I need to go get dinner." The second meeting at a coffee shop involved me giving her an outline of how we would do the presentation (headings-subheadings-finer points). She takes the printout and says "I have to meet someone to workout." and leaves. I approach the professor to tell them the issue, he says "just do your part, I will ask questions, don't help her and don't tell her what you get for a grade." I did my part, then look over to see her with MY outline trying to stumble her way through the presentation. He asks her questions..she stumbles looking at me to help her. He asks me the same questions, I answer fully. I got an A. She comes yo me later and says "Can you believe he only gave us a C- on that paper." Yeah..uh-huh. (giggle)
@Aunt Messy - No.The purpose of the group project, aside from learning about the topic, is to learn to work as a group. If one group member cannot be bothered to do their bit, then it could affect the team. Thats a lesson that everyone needs to learn. Your 'suck it up and do what needs doing' attitude just enables flakers and bullies to continue sponging off others work. I think the professor did the right thing by being lenient in giving the flaker a C grade and not an F or worse, calling out that student for flaking, in class. reading your comment, I hope to god you're not a team leader or manager or teacher. You're attitude in this regard is terrible.
Load More Replies... If the group leader handed this conversation over to the principal she could get kicked out, No, She SHOULD get kicked out for threatening a student. But I guess she's digging her own grave anyway. It would just speed up the process.
A bunch of people here seem to think it is acceptable for a grown adult to ignore their responsibilities and it is other's obligation to handle these people with kid gloves. They arent her parents; they don't need to coddle her and remind her that she's a big girl and she needs to help out. The BASIC requirement for group projects is for everyone in the group to participate in the project. If she can't even do that, they shouldn't be forced to carry her or give her delicate warnings.
You reap what you sow. Clearly she didn't take the class seriously and she has to learn her lesson. No sympathy for her, she totally deserved it.
Load More Replies... I'm a college teacher and I have to set group assignments sometimes because they are complicated but essential learning tools. I always tell my students that each member of the group will get identical scores BUT they can give bonus or malus marks to individual members (I will always agree on the bonus but they know I can veto the malus. I don't require proof, and most of the time I knew anyway). Every year this rule is applied a couple of times and it makes the students feel much better since slackers don't get free Passes.
Group projects: BARF!!! There is always a lazy butt. My coworker is a student employee. She spent all spring semester on two group projects. One girl bailed, another guy was drunk when he did show up to the group meetings and another just seemed to vanish. The drunk guy toward the end became super unilateral and bossy until they finally worked around him. He'd do things like assign parts to do, then text that he forgot to do it or did the wrong one. She ended up finishing up the project with two people, three people did 6 people's work. No way to report them, no peer review. Then a few weeks later they get a text from drunk bossy guy asking what time the exam is: the day after the exam. Straight up karmic wonderment filled her face. It was lovely. She still chuckles.
Like when you're driving down the street with someone tailgating you and they change lanes just in time for that person in front of them that's slowing way down to make a turn. You smile as you drive past them and even chuckle when they are now 6 cars behind you....
Load More Replies... I HATE group projects, there is always at least 1 person who does nothing. I know that in a work environment we have to work in groups but in that environment we are PAID to deal with that jerk. When I'm in school I'm paying a grand a class to have to tolerate these people. That is completely unacceptable. Good for them kicking her out. I bet she waited until the night before it was due to even bother looking at anything.
The professor/teacher should let it be known that people who don't help the group in the group project will receive a zero. They should also say to let them know if there is someone in the group who isn't contributing.
Uhg, reminds me of an undergrad course Marine biology. Had to work on a poster project with 5 people (all girls, one guy). The guy wasn't that invested, but did his thing (though quite slowly). Suddenly, the dominant girl of our group send an e-mail to the professor saying that guy wasn't doing his job and if he please could be removed from our group, with the rest of us in the CC. Said she consulted all of us, which definitely wasn't true. I was furious (and I don't get furious often), and replied right away how this WASN'T consulted with the rest of the group, and how we first have to at least talk to the guy, and with each other, before e-mailing the actual professor, that I found this highly unprofessional. Professor agreed with me through a short reply that we could figure it out ourselves. We got an 8/10 in the end and the guy and I became friends during our graduate program because we both remembered this incident. :')
In 8th grade, we were put into group projects, I got the 2 dumbest asses in the class. Since they knew I was smart and knew how to research and write good notes, they all dumped it all on me. I did the whole project in 2 days (as well as juggle other 8th grade stuff.) about the local fauna in the African Savanna. It was easy, basic stuff if you read a Zoo Book. I went to my teacher and explained my "group." She said, "Give them your copy of notes and PowerPoint, I'll send you to the library or something before you start. Like, wha? Really? When we were called to present, I was asked to go to the office, they put me in the lounge and just chilled out playing games. Went back to the classroom and from what I was told, the Teacher just took my notes and read my work while the others were given an F and asked to sit down. Since my project wasn't perfect, I got a B average but still was glad to get some justice out of it.
I had a class once we were asked to mark groupmates out of 5. After the course had ended, I noticed that this wasn't included in the grade breakdown. I asked him, and he casually explained that the student's final grade was multiplied by this number. Wow... in most courses your group's evaluation of your work ethic is grossly undervalued, but in this case he went WAY overboard. Imagine a student who does above-average work across the board, manages a 70% in the final, all coursework, and the group project. Unsurprisingly, the group leader evaluates their work ethic at 3.5/5. And bam, the student has failed the course. (.70 * .70 = .49). And those guys that had done almost no work so I gave them a 2/5? Doesn't matter if they had a 100% in every other exam and assignment, I had single-handedly failed them. What if I just didn't like them much? That instructor then left on sabbatical and the faculty was left scrambling to re-evaluate all of the students in a more fair manner.
She obviously never heard of the saying "you catch more flies with honey than vinegar." She went to Level 5 Cray Cray, skipping right past minorly annoying. Her boyfriend she watch out.
Her response wasn’t surprising, considering her participation in the project.
Load More Replies... Yeah, group work sucks, I had three at uni and there was always two or three who messed it up, I had one bring me her 'contribution' half an hour before and it dropped all the formatting out everyone elses work leaving me standing out front manually inputting everyones work...we got top marks! and my personal favourite the day before a presentation is due a girl turns up to the last meeting with her boyfriend and tells me 'MY' idea won't work infront of the group...it was currently the only idea to rescue the fact that only two out of nine of us had done any work...to which I replied 'so what is your idea that you are going to get everyone to do in the next 30 minutes before the building is shut for the night?' to which she just repeated herself so I asked if we were all done and left....the presentation went ok rather than crashed and burned...
What a nightmare of a human being. I hope she changes for the better
Good one these guys. I had a group project too in grad school where we kicked a guy out. Our professor tired to have us reason with the guy but we stuck to our guns so the prof made us all put our names on every part of the project we did individually and have the other members sign off on each other then present a different part than what we each did. Since all of us worked together and that guy never showed up, we were all fine with whatever part we did and that guy fumbled out bad. The professor failed him and he threw a tantrum. Our group then went to happy hour with As sans him.
Good for standing up for the group and removing the slacker, but I have to say, any group project I ever worked on, there was ALWAYS at least one of those. :/ Sadly I was never smart enough to rally the group to dump them. Always figured that small bit of being carried only lasts for that, then they need to explain why they don't know the subject they just did a group project on. lol
Sports are never an excuse for missing course work. (RE: NCAA manual) -Prof. M
What a nasty b*tch. Threatens to get him harmed?? What a harpee. Hope she enjoys failing
This is inexcusable. I’d let the professor or teacher know, and that this person does nothing and was being denied access to the project information , and get no credit. Something for nothing has its very real limits.
I went back to college as an adult, extremely motivated to do well (graduated Summa Cum Laude for my Bachelor's, on track to do the same for my Master's). I can't tell you how many group projects, especially undergrad, consisted of slackers---some of whom even tried to cajole me into creating their section for them! I always refused, having previous experience working for companies that had a few employees just like them. So, I'd always make sure the presentation was divided up so everyone had to create and present their own section. The profs could always tell who made the effort and who didn't. The worst one was where I had one member of the group who not only slacked off when we were trying to get the presentation together, he got arrested for drunk driving---and put in jail---the night before we were to present. He got his "one phone call" 1 hour before class, and that's when I found out (I was the group leader). BTW, that presentation was the final exam!
Once I was in a psychology group project and I did all the work for a slacker because I didn't want her to slow us down. When she found out, she became furious and extremely paranoid. She told my then boyfriend I was a horrible evil b*tch. We should have done the project about her.
One group project....5 members...4 actively doing our part and contributing to the whole...1 student never showed. On the day of the presentation, she took our notes and SUMMARIZED what we had done. That was her contribution. The group talked to the prof, but he already knew she didn't get a grade.
I had a similar situation to this. I got paired with this cokehead of a chick for an undergrad class project (teaching robotics to working-class children). To make a long story short, I made at least 75% of the work (project desing, finding the school and the class group, making the slides, finding cheap robotics projects to make, buy materials, etc.). All she did was read slides in class (both in the school and in our college deadlines), try and finish up the robotic projects, and ask for money for materials she didn't even buy. Got scolded by the school's teacher because she did nothing in one of the final sessions (because she didn't buy any materials) and Ms. Coke left me hung to dry in the final term. I left her out of the Google Slides I made and she had to read a previous version (I changed A LOT of the information in the project, because of that and because there were things to correct). She threatened me with "spiritual karma" and badmouthed the professor to the Dean.
"Um you know i had a volleyball game!" is like the classic "Sorry I feel asleep"
Wait. I need to know how this ended! What happened did she keep texting???
Yeah.....I have seen it...just dump her over the side...useless baggage.
From the teacher's perspective, so much has gone wrong here already. One good way of solving this is to have students prepare a so called group contract, thereby discussing their mode of working together. Besides, kicking-out members should always be the last resort and not go without teacher consultation. The way these people write leads to the serious question if they are mature enough for this kind of work, though.
On the good side, this is a perfect example of how to teach students about socialism ! A few people doing all the work for others that don't want to work, and over time and multiple projects, the grades will drop and then everyone will fail. Yippee !
Client reference is the most important things for getting outsourcing work in difference outsourcing earning website. If you have client reference then you win a job easily. For this reason we provide job related client reference.http://www.itsolutionwall.com/
or, you know, she could've had the balls to actually do some work and not expect to be treated like a queen and have other to all the work for her
Load More Replies... That is not a 'female tactic'. It is a generic a*****e tactic.
Load More Replies... Well you can have her and support her for the rest of your life cuz the most she can do is text you. Better have a good job!
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