Zookeeper Finally Explains What Harambe Was Actually Doing With The Kid
Since Harambe, a 17-year-old silverback gorilla was shot dead at Cincinnati Zoo after a 4-year-old kid managed to get into his enclosure, many people were arguing that there was no need to kill the animal, claiming that he was actually trying to take care of the boy. However, Amanda O’Donoughue, a former zookeeper, has a whole different opinion which she expressed on a Facebook post a few days ago.
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“An adult male silver back gorilla has one job, to protect his group”
“Now Gorillas are considered ‘gentle giants’ at least when compared with their more aggressive cousins the chimpanzee, but a 400+ pound male in his prime is as strong as roughly 10 adult humans. What can you bench press? OK, now multiply that number by ten. An adult male silverback gorilla has one job, to protect his group. He does this by bluffing or intimidating anything that he feels threatened by.”
Image credits: Amanda O’Donoughue
The scene of Harambe with the kid is “pretty much the stuff of any keeper’s nightmares”
“I have watched this video over again, and with the Harambe’s posturing, and tight lips, it’s pretty much the stuff of any keeper’s nightmares, and I have had MANY while working with them. This job is not for the complacent. Gorillas are kind, curious, and sometimes silly, but they are also very large, very strong animals. I always brought my OCD to work with me. checking and rechecking locks to make sure the animals under my care and I remained separated before entering to clean.”
Harambe wasn’t trying to protect the kid – he used him to intimidate people
“I keep hearing that the Gorilla was trying to protect the boy. I do not find this to be true. Harambe the Gorilla reaches for the boy’s hands and arms, but only to position the child better for his own displaying purposes. Males do very elaborate displays when highly agitated, slamming and dragging things about. Typically they would drag large branches, barrels and heavy weighted balls around to make as much noise as possible. Not in an effort to hurt anyone or anything (usually) but just to intimidate. It was clear to me that he was reacting to the screams coming from the gathering crowd.”
Image credits: Courtesy Cincinnati Zoo
Why tranquillizers weren’t an option
“They didn’t use Tranquilizers for a few reasons, A. Harambe would’ve taken too long to become immobilized, and could have really injured the child in the process as the drugs used may not work quickly enough depending on the stress of the situation and the dose B. Harambe would’ve have drowned in the moat if immobilized in the water, and possibly fallen on the boy trapping him and drowning him as well.”
Image credits: William Philpott
“I can’t point fingers at anyone in Harambe’s death, but we need to really evaluate the safety of the animal enclosures from the visitor side…I know one thing for sure, those keepers lost a beautiful, and I mean gorgeous silverback and friend. I feel their loss with them this week. As educators and conservators of endangered species, all we can do is shine a light on the beauty and majesty of these animals in hopes to spark a love and a need to keep them from vanishing from our planet. Child killers, they are not. It’s unfortunate for the conservation of the species, and the loss of revenue a beautiful zoo such as Cinci will lose.”
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The enclosure should have been better protected for these reasons. The mother of the child was negligent. RIP Harambe.
I fault the zoo AND the parents. If a 4 year old could gain access to that moat, the enclosure was woefully inadequate.
Wild animals need tight enclosures I blame some to parent and some to zoo for not having it secure if the kid got in what's stopping the silverback from finding same hole and getting out remember these are wild they need concrete and safe fences
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I saw a report on the enclosure yesterday and it was said by someone who went to see it that is would have been very difficult to get in to the enclosure to the Gorilla because there were several barriers to get by to get in there. That child must have been gone for quite some time to get into a situation to see that Gorilla, which he wanted to do. Very Sad!
Am I the only one thinking gorillas are endangered but humans well....arent?
Soooo we should sit by and watch a child die because we have lots.of them? Why not feed you to lions. Too many of us anyway. Seriously? Sad state of the human species.
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Amazing how its the Zoos fault yet they have been there for 42 YEARS and this has NEVER happened before, its the MOTHERS fault PERIOD
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Explanations are very wise and very sensible, but the gorilla is dead and he shouldn't be.
so what is better, save a gorilla or save the child? We have different take on the situation. But for now let us move on from here. ..
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ITS THE MOTHER AND FATHERS FAULT THAT HARAMBE WAS KILLED THEY SHOULD OF KEPT A BETTER EYE ON THERE CHILD
if the animal is "so" dangerous why is it in the zoo. Oh to protect him you say. but doesn't look like you doing a good job! let them be free. they are not clowns or objects for display.
I saw a report on the enclosure yesterday and it was said the enclosures were very secure and would have been very difficult to get to that Gorilla, which means the child had to have been gone for some time to figure that out. He really wanted to be by that Gorilla. All around SAD.
Sucks... The kid could've grown up with a fascination of our evolutionary cousins and may have helped with conservation efforts and lived his life as a scientist helping us understand what we as apes are... But now he'll no doubt grow up with a fear of our Great Ape cousins, we lost another bright, curious mind to parental negligence and fear-induced ignorance (the traumatic experience of this will probably make him fear non-human apes for the rest of his life, only appreciating them in the abstract...) I feel equally bad for the child as I do the gorilla. Poor kid... Also bless the female gorilla that somehow hasn't gotten any publicity for taking the child and gently carrying him away and protecting him from perceived danger to the exit of the enclosure. Harambe might not be the heroic martyr we think he is, but there was one heroic ape in the enclosure (not including the humans present, especially considering the reason this went so badly was because of the humans agitating Harambe
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These are all lies, Harambe is a national hero and the savior of the human race. He should be remembered by everyone and kids should learn about him at school, just like they learn about heroes like George Washington and Ben Franklin. Harambe, we will miss u always. RIP to the GOAT
I blame parents where were they when kid got in cage?????????????????
If the mother had been watching the child as she should have there would have been no need to kill that poor animal . What was the mother doing that she didn't notice her son was missing
SHUT DOWN the zoo's. Shut down every f*****g zoo on this entire planet. Caging animals is stupid af! Let them f*****g be FREE to breathe where they belong. If people are so desperate to WATCH them then let them have GUTS in A*s to go the jungles and see them. They aren't an object of entertainment !!! bastard humans!!! :O :O purposefully or without any purpose, they KILLED an innocent creature and that's what making my heart break into pieces. :O
What the f**k is it with this dumb a*s anti-zoo b******t. In some cases, their natural habitat is more dangerous than the zoo. In some cases, these animals need human intervention to even live in the wild. In the end, your white knighting b******t doesn't even do anything. F*****g do your research before you go on your high and mighty b******t.
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If humans would have not trapped the animals in the zoo this would have never happened
So basically the zoo is trying to come up with b******t reasons and excuses to try and cover their assed and justify what they did what a joke
its not excuses it's an explanation for the clueless morons like you
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that's why you watch your kid at the zoo they are around wild animals. Wonder if a kid napper took the kid? Anyone could leave with your child that's why you watch them. Too bad a beautiful animal had to die because a bas a@@ kid did not listen to his mother.. OK the another busy with another kid where was the dad? Was its the Zoos fault the kjd went over the rail? ummm I think not. because if the parents even half you know what even tried to watch the little boy would we even be talking about this?
I'm amazed that no one thinks animals should never be kept in a zoo. It's wrong no matter how well they are taken care of. No human would like to be kept in captivity. The argument is made that this helps spread awareness and raise money, but all this could be done in a way as to keep the animals far removed from the visitors. Go on a damned safari if you want to see wild animals. This world is full of national parks with animals in their natural habitat. Either way the gorilla is dead through no fault of its own and if we replace him with a human being the injustice of it would be clear to all of us.
Most animals in zoos are being bred because they are endangered and losing their habitat. What many people don't realize is Zoos don't just display animals they breed them for release in the wild to repopulate endangered populations. Zoos have save many animals including animals that are no longer able to survive in the wild on their own. Look at the Panda. When I was a kid in the 80's we were told that Panda's would be extinct in 10 year. Then San Diego Zoo and China got together and changed everything. Now we have Pandas. Pandas can't survive on their own because for some reason they've devolve as a species and reproduction is extremely difficult but Zoos saved the animal. Same can be said for Ring Tailed Lemurs. Another animal that was critically endangered in the 80's. The Los Angeles Zoo had one of the biggest breeding programs and helped repopulate the Lemurs. Now Lemurs have no home due to forest destruction. Zoos are saving them as a species.
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beauitiful animal was killed because b***h couldn't pay enough attention to her child :@
Don't just blame the mother. The father was there too and didn't keep watch of his child. And there's no need for such misogynist language.
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idiot parents of the kid i say
probably some irresponsible parent.Harambe shouldnt have died :( R.I.P rip-58d7cb...953f6b.jpg 
Same old same old... So were talking about a humans life is worth more than a silverback mountain male gorilla which btw is an endangered species with only 790 left in the wild. Human population worldwide 7,4 billion. Its not the animals that need to be locked up so were safe from them , we need to be locked up so the animals are safe. FTW
What I find amazing is that people who feel like this never make themselves extinct in order to protect the lives of the animals they are championing, sometimes such people aren't even vegans, making sure not to use any products in any way sourced by animals. That's hypocrisy. If you feel like that, give up your life for animals. Go and work out so you're muscular (muscle is meat) then travel to the polar region and preach to a polar bear. They're endangered too and could use a nice meal.
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I'm sorry but the dragging movement used by harambe matches the one of the movement mothers of gorillas use to move them. At the start of the video harambe placed him self in front of the child. As seen in 1986 when a 3 year old boy falls into a gorilla Inclosure the gorilla places him self between the boy and the other gorillas( notice the mirroring of action between him and hamambe) that 450 lbs male did nothing but try to protect the boys as harambe did. The zoo was wrong for shoting a animal the was trying to help what they saw as the victim.
No, the zoo was right - but it was ONLY made so because the stupid crowd screamed their heads off like a bunch if idiots. If they had kept quiet and not panicked like brainless sheep, the situation would have likely turned out much better like it did in 1986 in Australia.
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i heard people say it's one of the ways of transporting their infants The manual “Management of Gorillas in Captivity” lists dragging as a method gorillas use to transport infants. Those methods include: 1) arm walk--the mother walked quadrupedally while the infant sat in one palm and held onto her arm; 2) crutch walk--the mother walked quadrupedally while holding her infant in her lap and used her arms as crutches; 3) drag --a mother walked tripedally while the infant was held in one hand away from the body; 4) leg walk--the mother walked quadrupedally while the infant held onto her rear leg. @ gorillassp.org/MembersSection/MembersOnlyForms/Gorilla%20Husbandry%20Manual.pdf#65
obviously the gorilla used method number 3 dragging
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It's the mothers fault!!!! It's the zoo's fault!!! Sometimes, different factors just come together in an awful fashion. It's called an 'accident' If anybody is at fault, it is stupid humans who feel it necessary to pack wild animals into enclosed spaces to they can gape and wave at them.
It's not just the zoo's fault, and not just the parents fault. It's both.
PARENTS NEED TO WATCH THERE CHILDREN AND THEY MUST TAKE CARE OF WHAT THERE CHILDREN RE DOING
Why are you screaming? DO YOU NEED TO SEE A DOCTER?
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First I have to say I m glad the child is safe as he is not at fault for this. His neglectful self absorbed mother with more kids then she can handle is. That being said since the crowd was agitating Harambe to the point that he felt the need to posture, my question would be was any attempt made to get the screaming idiots evacuated from the area first? This alone may have been able to help calm Harambe enough to try to tempt him with some other things he may like and possibly save both. This enclosure has been more then sufficient for all this time and I have to agree with many others that said it took more then a few minutes for the child to get in. Also the little child was overheard telling his mom that he wanted to go in. Instead of just telling him no she should have either left the area with him or made him hold her hand. But silly me the photos to social media are so much more important then watching your child.(sarcasm intended,)
Okay well here's the deal zookeepers, if you know them so well,and he was getting agitated because of people yelling out, why not let these people who should've instinctively known to stfu, to stfu?And isn't this pic sweet of her to be lovingly feeding him through a fence. My god, if you love him get him to his "real" home.The only reason people are blaming the zoo is not because the zoo exists but because the enclosures aren't full proof? I'm sick
You're a moron to expect zoos to control masses like this to not scream. Even if you teach people to be calm and how to get to safety in dangerous situation, when that actually happens most will panic and be anything but calm and not save themselves. People scream in panic, that's just how it is. Also zoo existance is fine, but the enclosures should be protected better AND the dumb mom should watch her child, go away scrawny hippie
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a good reasoning should start with human's hubris ... enclosing a living being... disposing of his life as they want... just take a moment and ponder how all "inhuman" act are made by "humans"...
In the first place, the child should not have been exposed to any danger by his parents. As this was not the situation, EVERYTHING should have been done to save both, the boy and Harambe. I don't know whether the child was really in danger - I was not there and can only comment from the video. But I have personally seen a large animal tranquilised by means of a dart and it doesn't take that long for the animal to lose conscience. This is a sensitive matter and each one of us has an opinion. I'm probably wrong, but this is what I feel deep down.
I have seen multiple animals darted — they absolutely do NOT go down easily and can be very dangerous in the process. Your own anecdotal experience is irrelevant.
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I primarily fault Harambee for approaching and touching the boy, then I fault the generally unpredictable and sometimes aggressive nature of all gorillas. Next I fault the boy for going where he should not. Sure he was young, but it was still HIS choices that led to him getting in. They never had a Gorilla escape before so the zoo had adequate means for keeping Gorillas enclosed. The mother didn't want her child to go in. Sure she could have been more careful and I am sure she is very regretful that she wasn't, but it was the gorilla's unpredictable nature and the boy's bad choice that really are to blame. Kids constantly do stupid things. Parents cannot control the outcomes of the nearly incessant bad choices their kids make.
It still breaks my heart that humans locked this incredible, ENDANGERED, magnificent fellow species in a CAGE (because humans are too selfish to share the planet with their fellow earthlings) then when a negligent human allows their child to gain access to this animals captive home the innocent animal loses his life!!!! At the very least the parents should have been charged with child endangerment and the zoo should have sued them (not that you can put a price on Harambes life as it was priceless especially to him) for the loss of their beloved gorilla! As a species that has over populated and destroys and rapes the planet for our selfish egotistical "wants" i have to admit it bothers me more that the gorilla was murdered for simply being a gorilla then if the human hadn't survived.
UR A FRIKIN ZOO SO GET FRIKIN TRANGQUILIZERS harambe didnt need to die also what kind of parents would let their 3 year old get in a frikin enclosure??? what kind of mom are you???? thats like letting your child just, die!!!! WTF?!!??!!??!?
Total BS. F**k the parents They should be sued. Little a*****e! Those asshat parents are not parents at all. No respect no remorse. Ignorance.
B******t! Loser mom let the brat climb all over! Family should be sued!
If you believed he would’ve drowned in the moat after being tranquillized that is odd due to rapid response teams reacting same goes for the gorilla on kid situation. It played out wrong. A Gorilla was killed needlessly everyone wants to say this and that for excuses why but same as the healthcare situation now readiness was sub par so deaths occurs point the finger at everyone else not this Gorilla
F**k off you couldve used tranquilizers cause it still wouldve stopped him
when an interaction between a human and an animal turns out the wrong way and disaster hits, it is always the animal that pays the price of the humans being careless, negligent or superficial...
LIERS !!! YOU JUST WANT TO JUSTIFY YOUR MURDERING !!!
LIES = TO MAKE YOURSELVES FEEL BETTER ABOUT YOUR MURDER
This zoo is horrible i hate them for choosing to kill. Did anyone ever thought of a tranquilizer. Right away first thought is to kill. I will never visit or sponsor any zoo. If this is what they do to these innocent animals. How about building enclosures where kids that can stay still don't fall. Dumb a*s family. I hope they get their karma. U brought an innocent animal to the zoo claiming that you're protecting them instead you killed him. What else will you be killing
You know what. I'm pissed at the idiot mother who didn't pay attention to that child. I'm also mad at the zoo for not child proofing the enclosure. You realize they captured a gorilla only to kill him like he was being hunted. Bunch of idiots all the zoos should be closed. It's not worth having animals to kill them. I will never go to a zoo
RIP harambe I think he was protecting the child And think about it almost every day. I'm 13 and my favorite animal is any type of primate so I've looked up alot of things about monkeys and gorillas. gorillas drag there baby's to clean them or make them dry so I believe that harambe was protecting the boy and the zookeeper who shot him is a horrible human. U will be missed. RIP harambe
I have worked with gorillas since 1986. It has taken me all these years to have the stomach to read this article. As i knew without even watching the film of Harambe's murder, screaming humans with no reflexivity or self control killed this man. He should have been in the wilds of his own land, to begin with. Zoos are slavery. Secondly, because we see oo animals as removed entertainment, like little tvs, humans at the scene didn't know how to comport themselves in a way that ensured a better outcome. I will never believe that Harambe would have killed this child. His death was murder. period. I only wish I had been there to take the bullet for him.
They could have worked to quiet and disperse the crowd... instead they focused on the animal and murdered him. They should have had workers moving the idiotic screaming people. Now a beautiful animal is lost "for the sake" of some typical child. The zookeeper only addresses the part that the gorilla was trying to protect the child, but even if thats not the case, that doesn't follow that the killing the gorilla was justified. If the crowds have been moved, the gorilla would have also calmed down. Our society would be more benefited by killing the offspring of idiotic screaming parents.
Zookeeper: Well he wasn't trying to protect the child, he was trying to frighten the crazy crowd away Other person if this was a convo and not a statement: ... that doesn't explain why you shot him....
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I think harambe was trying to protect the kid not hurt him in the mother needs to watch her kids better cuz If harambe was trying to hurt the kid and that would have been back some mother isn't watching her kids and is being negligent
RIP harambe listen yes the zoo encloser should have been better
Haramnbe was a one of a kind silverback and for no good reason he is dead RIP harambe AND WHY DID THEY NOT USE TRANQS? THAT WAY THE CHILD AND HARAMBE COULD HAVE BEEN SAVED... THEY ARE GORILLA RACIZM BRUH
ok. WHY DO PEOPLE THINK IT IS A GOOD IDEA TO IMPRISON ANY ANIMAL IN A ZOO? HUMANS LAUGH OUTSIDE WHILE THE POOR ANIMALS CRY FOR THEIR WILD ANCESTORS INSIDE! Harambe was innocent! I LOATHE THE PERSON WHO SAID THIS ARTICLE! I can't understand why humans have to hate animals so much. IF PEOPLE DO NOT CAPTURE ANIMALS THIS WOULD NEVER HAPPEN!!!!!!!
You can point a finger at the unwashed and uneducated masses who scream like they were the lower f*****g primates. WHAT GOOD DOES SCREAMING AT A GORILLA DO, S**T FOR BRAINS?!? If everybody realized they had to retreat and stay quiet, and f*****g DID it, there might have been a far different outcome. Yes the zoo and mother was at fault, but MOSTLY THE F*****G CROWD.
hey Julia can i use you're photos on your article for a class project.
The Zoo Keeper is an idiot and total moron. She gives the reason for not using a tranquilizer as "Harambe would have drowned in the water possibly trapping the boy beneath him"..... Is she really this f*****g stupid? Shooting him with a gun will make him dead in the water possibly trapping the boy beneath him? Like what the f**k? Does the zookeeper have s**t for brains?
First off the enclosure's walls should have been taller than 3 feet silverbacks are going extinct and they just shot him they could have done something better than that
Should have shot the parents as well as shut down the zoo permanently. They dont deserve to operate if this is the best they can do. RIP 100% completely innocent animal. Pathetic.
The parents ignored their child resulting in the death of Harambe. R.I.P
That's why zoos are awful places, none of this would have taken place if the animal was left in the wild
In the end did she say loss or revenue for the zoo!!!! I really hope I'm misunderstanding something here.
I think there should not be any more zoos these animals are paying the price for these unfortunate accidents
It's the zoos fault no one either a kid or idiot should be able to get into enclosures, it's happened more than once so why don't people learn????
Seriously people, everyone with kids have at sometime removed there eyes from there child for a few seconds at one point in their life, so don't tell me that you have not. Kids are fast, it dosnt take long before they can disappear. Yes the enclosure should have been more secure, but the boy got in. Now think people for just one second, if that was your child dragged along in the water with a gorilla, double the size of any human wouldn't you want them to do anything possible and necessary to keep them safe. Would you really want to just take a chance and hope for the best. This isn't about killing an animal, it's about saving a little child's life. If that was my child in there I would shoot any animal that put my child's life at risk. The zoo just dosnt shoot animals. Seriously people grow up, stop crapping on about animal rights and think about a child's life. If you still think that they did wrong, I suggest you don't have kids.
So greatful to you for sharing this info. I feel sad an animal loss it's life, but I think did the right thing to protect the child. I think it's sad how much hatred was expressed to this Mother and her child. Children are curious and can get away quickly. I think it's sad how no one in the crowd could stop yelling, and thought their noise didn't make matters worse. Why aren't we getting angry at them, and putting charges up on them? Because that would be ignorant, so is trying to charge this Mother for like so many others, rough her child to a Zoo. I agree there shouldn't be a blame game, but a learning experience, to help people learn how to act in emergency, how we need better enclosures, and there is nothing wrong with putting your child on a safety harness. I so appreciate Ms. Amanda O'Dunouhughe for sharing this insightful info to the public. It is sad that so many people, that were not even there went on the attack of the Zoo, the this Mother. We shouldn't judge.
Mommy was yelling the entire time too. And her kids told her he was going into the gorilla’s enclosure and all she said was “no”, with no follow up. Mommy deserves charges, regardless of how naive people excuse her incompetence away.
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I blame the zoo for having a wild animal, they need to be in there own environment, not cooped up in a zoo. They have no privacy of there own, people watching them, caretakers feeding them and etc. Zoo's should be extinct, not the animals. you may as well put them in jail, this is all the room you get. the animals are not happy. At least in a safari, they have room to roam.
Yes, the boy should not have been able to get over the enclosure. But after saying several times that he was going in the mother should have never turned her back away from him. Harambe was only doing what he knew to do . The zoo and the parents share the blame for the boy getting into the enclosure and harambe owns none of it.
Thank you! Finally an intelligent , true based on fact , comment !
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F this b***h shes nothing but a prison guard! She is not an animal behaviorist! She deserves the same fate as the gorilla evil troll! Seriously anyone who thinks this animal should have been gun down shouldnt be working with animals!
The parents should of been watching their child better, because they didn't a beautiful animal had to lose his life for someone's negligence. RIP big guy.
Kids are stupid especially the kid who was the cause of the death of harambe the kid is stupid and the parents did not do a great job looking for the kid the kid was 3 really hate thefact that haramabe was killed since the zoo kepper could have jumped in the cage and grab the boy and get them get him upthere BUT NO NO NO STUPID ZOOKEEPER DECIDE HEY IM GONNA KILL HARAMABE INSTEAD OF GETTING THE KID OUT LIKE GETTING A ROPE OR PULLING THE KID UP TO THE SURFACE
My parent reaction would be jump in and make an escape possible for my kid and let the ape beat me to death, but hey guess you americans like to watch your kids die and just act tough in the media /comments...
Insanity..the ape was definitely looking out for the child,the child was not on any real danger..
How can one blame the gorilla, the article is well written, after the kid was ‘G, handled and the gorilla shot.!! A four year old gets into an enclosure .. that’s the statement of the year .. “ don’t the wild protect their own species from predators” , and this was a enclosure, where was the mum, why did a human leave a four year old unattended.. well apparently the law pardoned the negligence of the mother and silenced an specie for its nature ...I’m pretty sure the mum has some time to produce another and still be negligent, .. if you can’t handle your life don’t have an offspring and end an another life because of ones own stupidity .
The kid was in imminent danger, the question was how much more risk should they have put the child in? The answer is none...
He was really trying to help the kid but he probably wasn’t very good at it yet. He should’ve died peacefully.
harambe did not know what he was doing maybe he thought the kid was food but if they trankalized him he and the kid would of died.
plus i did reasearch now look up why didnt they use tranq dart... he is dum i did me own testz HE IS LIAR AND NEEDS EXCUSE i wish magic were real then i could bring back harambe. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ 🦍👻
I honestly think it wasn't the child's fault because he was a three year old, but I blame the mother for being negligent and the zoo since a f*****g three year old could climb into the enclosure and kill our lord harambe. #heilharambe
its ridiculous. the parents of that kid were probably some sort of irresponsible teen parents. Harambe shouldnt have dide :( R.I.P
Don't you think that the idiots supervising that child, or the child himself had this coming? Their genes should've ended right then and there, they aren't survivors, they're idiots, and if that f*****g idiot kid didn't die this time, he'd die the next in an even more stupid accident.
He's a CHILD you DUMBASS. Here's a news flash: children don't think RATIONALLY, s**t for brains! Evidently, neither do you!
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I still don't understand: how did the damn kid fall in the f****ing enclosure?!!,
It wouldn't have happened if the Gorillas were in the wild where they should be. I understand that some zoos are used when the species are endangered and they try to minimise the extinction but that does not mean that they should be exposed to human ignorance by letting people visit them. The job is to save the animals not to make a show out of them.
While true, adding that the zoo has lost a cash cow kind of put a damper on the Rest of what she said. Should have left that out as it made her praise and supposed appreciation of Harambe less genuine sounding.
and matt garner we all should move on ur right its in the past nothing we can do to stop it from happening now...
matt garner ur right lets all move on srsly though its in the past now, nothing we can do to stop it we dont have a time machine dont we....
No doubt fault is Zoo and ofParents both. Could have saved one life. But just pay attention - What If ???? Child would have got hurt ???? There would have been stories again and I guess worse than current stories. So it was a decision for a lesser harm- and that was made to save life of prominent species. No male gorilla take care of kids - that's job of females there too.
No, you racist walking turd, it's because the uneducated stupid crowd screamed their heads off, as if it would help anything. A crowd you would have evidently fit right into given the stupidity you write. And before you even start, I'm a middle aged white male. LowIntellect AnalSphincter.
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Again, parents MUST hold on to their little kids, if you cannot control your child then DON'T take them to zoos. I haven't heard if the father was present, but the mother at the very least should pay restitutions for the death of this gorilla and for the fact she had NO control over her child. You can't really blame zoo for this as it never happened before and NO amount of protections is fool proof
Control? You can't "control" everything 24/7. Nobody's perfect.
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As many fingers that are pointing blame that's how many prayers we should be praying that this little one can overcome being traumatized by this situation. I'm sure the zoo will reconsider and reconstruct the enclosure. The mother has not only suffered her own judgement but thousands of others as we as a society think we have the right to judge others. We have thousands of men and women fighting and losing there lives to give us our freedom! Is this the best we can do with this freedom? We are better than this...
You know nothing, the zoo had a statement saying that it was a secure cage and yet the mother was not around to stop the kid from figure out how to get in, think about.
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They could have fed the gorilla with food that contained the tranquilizer. Then there would have been no dart to scare him.
Yeah, cause he was really craving a banana at the time right?
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I think authorities used the right protocol to diffuse the situation.. For everyone complaining if u happen yo fall in the hands of a gorilla, lion or tiger I will be sure to use a tranquilizer gun and much prayer!
I say some parents and zoo the parents didn't watch their child as they should have and the zoo should have better barriers so kids can't get through them!
It's the parents responsibilities to watch their kids while visiting the zoo.I don't think that gorilla will harm the kid he try to protect the boy like its family but because the parents and visitors scream the gorilla panick so the tendency is move and drag or carry the boy. It's party to be blame are the parents and the zookeeper who should put more protection to this gorilla area and big sign watch your children
This is one lady's opinion. Ten zoo keepers, like Supreme Court justices, would have ten different opinions. She may be right, she may be wrong, who really knows? Tragic, either way.
I believe it was unfortunate accident something everybody can learn don't cast the first stone is unfortunate either way
I totally agree with Crystal Rose, the zoo should have been very well protected with suitable fencing, and the parents shouldhave been in better control of their child. Very sad, but reading more today, can understand they did what they had to do. Its a case of being in trouble whatever decision they made.
To all the "perfect" parents who are pointing their fingers at the mother of a 3 year old: Have you ever dropped your toddler's hand for just a second to reach into your purse for something and had said toddler make a break for the road? Have you ever had a 3 year old squirm out of your grasp? No? Never? Liar!
The parents or guardian should've been watching the child, if they was watching him how did he get in with the gorilla in the 1st place
As a mother who has taken her child to the zoo many times I have to say even when holding a childs hand they can move so fast to see something they want to. Who's to say if the mother was negligent or not. It was an accident, a very sad accident but an accident no the less pointing fingers does not take away the fact that it happened . People need to be aware and cautious. BUT ALSO KIND.
No zoos. Animals in the wild where they belong. Take a safari go to the jungle or where ever to see them. Case closed and nobody would be in the wrong. ya think.
4why not just leave the animals in the wild where they belong and if you want to see them go to the jungle or take a safari. Case solved and nobody is right or wrong. Ya think.
Think everyone can learn by this, no one knows how to deal with a dangerous situation until it happens, most definately both sides to blame, so instead of trying to prosecute, we should support and get the message across, keep your kids close,, and zoos to make extra security in and around dangerous animals, ????
I think the mother of the child should have been paying more attention to him and could this have been staged for a lawsuit? ??? Maybe cause the little boy had to go through 4 things before he got to where he could jump, now someone please explain why someone didn't try to stop the child or Hillary for help before he got to where he could jump???????
I don't think Harambe wanted to harm the child, If he did he would have killed the boy instantly I do think Harambe was protecting the little boy. As far as I am concerned the Gorilla should have not lost his life and yes I do blame the his mother rip Harambe what a shame.
this entire situation is sad...and frustrating on many levels...only prevention would have saved the life of this gorilla...a more attentive parent and I suppose better zoo enclosure. Yet, it is true that a gorilla with a child in its enclosure becomes like an erratic human( and some of those humans need to be shot to protect whomever they are holding to "intimidate" others.
i agree crystal no 1 should beable 2 get in there or out 4 that matter sad but know 1 knows wat harambe woulda did .rip
This beautiful wild animal should never have been in an enclosure in the first place. Keeping animals in "enclosures" for humans entertainment is a questionable practice.
I agree with Crystal Rose. both at fault. however, I think that going to zoo's and malls and crowed busy places it should be one on one with child and adult . in many cases this cant happen, so......... use one of those leashies that are made for this reason. and ppl should keep their mouths SHUT to the ppl who use them this would not have happened if ppl would go the extra mile to keep kids safe and secure.
CAN'T YOU UNDERSTAND PLAIN ENGLISH THE ZOO WAS NOT IN ANY WAY AT FAULT FOR THE IGNORANCE AND STUPIDITY OF an uncaring adult and that's what we have here if the kid was supervised this would NOT have happened put the blame where it belongs on the PARENTS oh great idiot ones
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The zoo keeper said in this article that they would not tranquilize Harembe because 1.. the drug would take too long but at that time the boy was safe and not being harmed so, they had to wait but could still be watching the animal... 2.. Haremaba could have fallen and drowned, really well in my opinion it would have been better than shooting him, at least he would have stood a chance of survival and 3.. If they had shot him he could have fallen on the boy which also could have happened when they shot him... dead. She said he was just showing off in front of the crowd, I've seen Gorilla's do the same thing with their own babies, he would not have hurt him, the zoo keeper said he would not have hurt him, Gorilla's are kind, gentle creatures, if he had intended to harm the little boy he would have done it straight away
Wild animals shouldn't be in ANY enclosure! They should be left alone to live in peace.
Really tragic. Animals need better protection from intruders into their space in zoos. Trained athletes should attempt intrusion, to find the weak links. Like the horrendous failures at the TSA, I suspect these 'testers' will find many, many places that people, especially little ones, will penetrate, and risk the lives of the animals.
It was an "accident" or they would be called an "on purposes "....A 4 year old still doesn't understand consequences of behavior, like don't crawl under there you'll fall into a gorillas pit! Come on now....The Zoo should of better protected their animals, that's their JOB. They failed. The parents were not at fault, the little boy was not at fault and a horrible fact that the gorilla was NOT at fault. The Zoo was at fault.
I CN POINT FINGERS AT THE STUPID WOMAN WHO DIDNT KEEP HER KID ON A LEASH OR IN A FRIGGEN STROLLER! I HAVE A DAUGHTER THAT KIDS AGE AND YOU CAN BET YOU BALLSACK THAT SHE'D F****N BE IN A STROLLER OR ON A HARNESS!
Oh and the lost of revenue don't forget from last few sentences. Wow ain't that the truth dumbasses
OMG, we need to learn from this. Mistakes are learning tools. Yes a better enclosure, and no its no ones fault. Accidents happen every moment of our lives. This King of Animals was a risk, and they assessed well and worked fast. Please really pointing fingers and stateing the obvious is not solving anything , just stirring the pot. Let's be knowledgeable. I'm glad see in news, good info. Just stop dirtying the waters, parenting is not perfect science for every child, and parenting a Gorrilla is not either, ugh ....OK feel vented.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/cincinnati-zoo-gorilla-harambe-boy-animal-behaviour-experts-question-shooting-silverback-video-a7057371.html
To be honest from the level of ignorance about zoos ie Zoological societies that work for the *conservation* of animals, it seems clear that the objections to the male gorilla being shot to protect a human toddler are less about the "beautiful animal" and more about inhumanity and racism. If people care about animals so much, why don't they know anything about Zoos? Do these people object to urbanisation which can cause the very habitat loss that puts these animals in danger in the first place? Do you eat meat? Do you live independent from your family? Do you use communication technology? Do you know how any of this impacts animals? If you're not willing to live in the jungle with pre-farming stone age technology STFU.
I blame the child's parents. They obviously weren't watching their child properly. When there is danger about, you watch your children MORE CLOSELY, not less so. Only a MORON wouldn't protect their children around danger. Only a moron would think they were 100% safe in such situations. I'm an intelligent parent and would have paid MORE attention to my children when near any level of danger. These people need to be charged with negligence and endangering a child.
if anything it was the parents fault cuz if they were watching him he wouldn't of climbed in there
The 4 year old kid got in the moat in a split second? if so, the kid should be training US Army Delta Force. Harambe belongs free in Africa, and put the kid's mother on exhibit.... if she don't think so. would she repeat her behavior?
If the child disappeared in a split second in the moat, he should be training Delta force during the week and Navy Seals on the weekends. Harambe belongs free in Africa, and the kid's mother belongs caged.
it has been confirmed by the American zoo federation that harmbie was trying to injure the child he deserved to die humans are supreme
It was just an accident. Calm down, that poor mother is being judged by the whole world. It's hypocritical
this is an evaluation by a prior zookeeper that is given general directions on animals within their jurisdiction. Do not make the mistake the comments given here as an expert opinion on animal behavior, because they are not. These comments are structured to address public outcry and are directed to human psychological concerns rather than the problem at hand
I might have known it was a black child. More unsupervised illegitimate children
I have kids and i know i don't take my eyes or hands off my kids... They don't deserve to have kids in my opinion!!
All you idiots blaming the zoo the kid is4 where in the hell is the supervision and control of that kid you all are refering to other zoos I thought we were talking about this one if that kid wasn't supervised in this situation I can only imagine how he is supervised at home NOT at all and from the looks of the picture that was put on here they look like the careless type next thing you know their going to sue the zoo for their ignorance and stupidity or maybe their lives are so boring and nonexistent they put their kid in jeopardy to get some sort of excitement and don't jump me happens everyday some we hear about and the majority we don't so think about it the zoo was NOT at fault for the lack of supervision put a leash on the boy hands were made for holding they might want to try that or just anything to keep the boy safe or take parenting classes where they will teach you how to keep your child safe the only thing about you have to listen and do then you won't have this type of thi
Harambe could have killed that child in an instant if he wanted to. This "expert zookeeper's" opinion is contradicted by her very own statements about how strong gorillas are. And, sorry but not sorry, I have to defer to real ape expert, Jane Goodall, in this situation. Harambe posed no harm to the child. The child was not a threat to him. The child's parents, however, seem to be.
I call b******t on this article! Harabe was raised by a human zoo keeper until he was sent to the Cincy Zoo!
ahem the American federation of zoos stated today that harmbie was scientifically showing hostile behavior to the child and it was not the parents fault and if u think that go f**k yourself kill all the animals hums are supreme
I was really surprised that the little boy was not crying and pulling away. Instead, he seemed curious and compliant. I am not sure which action was better.
I have a 3 year old grand daughter and she moves like lighting I believe that little boy just slipped through the Crack and people should stop blaming his mother sad for the gorilla but human life comes first no matter....that's my take on it
Just imagine the opposite headline. Toddler killed by gorilla. Zoo keepers take no action in their wait and see tactic. Lawsuit pending.
Load More Replies... The enclosure should have been better protected for these reasons. The mother of the child was negligent. RIP Harambe.
I fault the zoo AND the parents. If a 4 year old could gain access to that moat, the enclosure was woefully inadequate.
Wild animals need tight enclosures I blame some to parent and some to zoo for not having it secure if the kid got in what's stopping the silverback from finding same hole and getting out remember these are wild they need concrete and safe fences
Load More Replies... I saw a report on the enclosure yesterday and it was said by someone who went to see it that is would have been very difficult to get in to the enclosure to the Gorilla because there were several barriers to get by to get in there. That child must have been gone for quite some time to get into a situation to see that Gorilla, which he wanted to do. Very Sad!
Am I the only one thinking gorillas are endangered but humans well....arent?
Soooo we should sit by and watch a child die because we have lots.of them? Why not feed you to lions. Too many of us anyway. Seriously? Sad state of the human species.
Load More Replies... Amazing how its the Zoos fault yet they have been there for 42 YEARS and this has NEVER happened before, its the MOTHERS fault PERIOD
Load More Replies... Explanations are very wise and very sensible, but the gorilla is dead and he shouldn't be.
so what is better, save a gorilla or save the child? We have different take on the situation. But for now let us move on from here. ..
Load More Replies... ITS THE MOTHER AND FATHERS FAULT THAT HARAMBE WAS KILLED THEY SHOULD OF KEPT A BETTER EYE ON THERE CHILD
if the animal is "so" dangerous why is it in the zoo. Oh to protect him you say. but doesn't look like you doing a good job! let them be free. they are not clowns or objects for display.
I saw a report on the enclosure yesterday and it was said the enclosures were very secure and would have been very difficult to get to that Gorilla, which means the child had to have been gone for some time to figure that out. He really wanted to be by that Gorilla. All around SAD.
Sucks... The kid could've grown up with a fascination of our evolutionary cousins and may have helped with conservation efforts and lived his life as a scientist helping us understand what we as apes are... But now he'll no doubt grow up with a fear of our Great Ape cousins, we lost another bright, curious mind to parental negligence and fear-induced ignorance (the traumatic experience of this will probably make him fear non-human apes for the rest of his life, only appreciating them in the abstract...) I feel equally bad for the child as I do the gorilla. Poor kid... Also bless the female gorilla that somehow hasn't gotten any publicity for taking the child and gently carrying him away and protecting him from perceived danger to the exit of the enclosure. Harambe might not be the heroic martyr we think he is, but there was one heroic ape in the enclosure (not including the humans present, especially considering the reason this went so badly was because of the humans agitating Harambe
Load More Replies... These are all lies, Harambe is a national hero and the savior of the human race. He should be remembered by everyone and kids should learn about him at school, just like they learn about heroes like George Washington and Ben Franklin. Harambe, we will miss u always. RIP to the GOAT
I blame parents where were they when kid got in cage?????????????????
If the mother had been watching the child as she should have there would have been no need to kill that poor animal . What was the mother doing that she didn't notice her son was missing
SHUT DOWN the zoo's. Shut down every f*****g zoo on this entire planet. Caging animals is stupid af! Let them f*****g be FREE to breathe where they belong. If people are so desperate to WATCH them then let them have GUTS in A*s to go the jungles and see them. They aren't an object of entertainment !!! bastard humans!!! :O :O purposefully or without any purpose, they KILLED an innocent creature and that's what making my heart break into pieces. :O
What the f**k is it with this dumb a*s anti-zoo b******t. In some cases, their natural habitat is more dangerous than the zoo. In some cases, these animals need human intervention to even live in the wild. In the end, your white knighting b******t doesn't even do anything. F*****g do your research before you go on your high and mighty b******t.
Load More Replies... If humans would have not trapped the animals in the zoo this would have never happened
So basically the zoo is trying to come up with b******t reasons and excuses to try and cover their assed and justify what they did what a joke
its not excuses it's an explanation for the clueless morons like you
Load More Replies... that's why you watch your kid at the zoo they are around wild animals. Wonder if a kid napper took the kid? Anyone could leave with your child that's why you watch them. Too bad a beautiful animal had to die because a bas a@@ kid did not listen to his mother.. OK the another busy with another kid where was the dad? Was its the Zoos fault the kjd went over the rail? ummm I think not. because if the parents even half you know what even tried to watch the little boy would we even be talking about this?
I'm amazed that no one thinks animals should never be kept in a zoo. It's wrong no matter how well they are taken care of. No human would like to be kept in captivity. The argument is made that this helps spread awareness and raise money, but all this could be done in a way as to keep the animals far removed from the visitors. Go on a damned safari if you want to see wild animals. This world is full of national parks with animals in their natural habitat. Either way the gorilla is dead through no fault of its own and if we replace him with a human being the injustice of it would be clear to all of us.
Most animals in zoos are being bred because they are endangered and losing their habitat. What many people don't realize is Zoos don't just display animals they breed them for release in the wild to repopulate endangered populations. Zoos have save many animals including animals that are no longer able to survive in the wild on their own. Look at the Panda. When I was a kid in the 80's we were told that Panda's would be extinct in 10 year. Then San Diego Zoo and China got together and changed everything. Now we have Pandas. Pandas can't survive on their own because for some reason they've devolve as a species and reproduction is extremely difficult but Zoos saved the animal. Same can be said for Ring Tailed Lemurs. Another animal that was critically endangered in the 80's. The Los Angeles Zoo had one of the biggest breeding programs and helped repopulate the Lemurs. Now Lemurs have no home due to forest destruction. Zoos are saving them as a species.
Load More Replies... beauitiful animal was killed because b***h couldn't pay enough attention to her child :@
Don't just blame the mother. The father was there too and didn't keep watch of his child. And there's no need for such misogynist language.
Load More Replies... idiot parents of the kid i say
probably some irresponsible parent.Harambe shouldnt have died :( R.I.P rip-58d7cb...953f6b.jpg
Same old same old... So were talking about a humans life is worth more than a silverback mountain male gorilla which btw is an endangered species with only 790 left in the wild. Human population worldwide 7,4 billion. Its not the animals that need to be locked up so were safe from them , we need to be locked up so the animals are safe. FTW
What I find amazing is that people who feel like this never make themselves extinct in order to protect the lives of the animals they are championing, sometimes such people aren't even vegans, making sure not to use any products in any way sourced by animals. That's hypocrisy. If you feel like that, give up your life for animals. Go and work out so you're muscular (muscle is meat) then travel to the polar region and preach to a polar bear. They're endangered too and could use a nice meal.
Load More Replies... I'm sorry but the dragging movement used by harambe matches the one of the movement mothers of gorillas use to move them. At the start of the video harambe placed him self in front of the child. As seen in 1986 when a 3 year old boy falls into a gorilla Inclosure the gorilla places him self between the boy and the other gorillas( notice the mirroring of action between him and hamambe) that 450 lbs male did nothing but try to protect the boys as harambe did. The zoo was wrong for shoting a animal the was trying to help what they saw as the victim.
No, the zoo was right - but it was ONLY made so because the stupid crowd screamed their heads off like a bunch if idiots. If they had kept quiet and not panicked like brainless sheep, the situation would have likely turned out much better like it did in 1986 in Australia.
Load More Replies... i heard people say it's one of the ways of transporting their infants The manual “Management of Gorillas in Captivity” lists dragging as a method gorillas use to transport infants. Those methods include: 1) arm walk--the mother walked quadrupedally while the infant sat in one palm and held onto her arm; 2) crutch walk--the mother walked quadrupedally while holding her infant in her lap and used her arms as crutches; 3) drag --a mother walked tripedally while the infant was held in one hand away from the body; 4) leg walk--the mother walked quadrupedally while the infant held onto her rear leg. @ gorillassp.org/MembersSection/MembersOnlyForms/Gorilla%20Husbandry%20Manual.pdf#65
obviously the gorilla used method number 3 dragging
Load More Replies... It's the mothers fault!!!! It's the zoo's fault!!! Sometimes, different factors just come together in an awful fashion. It's called an 'accident' If anybody is at fault, it is stupid humans who feel it necessary to pack wild animals into enclosed spaces to they can gape and wave at them.
It's not just the zoo's fault, and not just the parents fault. It's both.
PARENTS NEED TO WATCH THERE CHILDREN AND THEY MUST TAKE CARE OF WHAT THERE CHILDREN RE DOING
Why are you screaming? DO YOU NEED TO SEE A DOCTER?
Load More Replies... First I have to say I m glad the child is safe as he is not at fault for this. His neglectful self absorbed mother with more kids then she can handle is. That being said since the crowd was agitating Harambe to the point that he felt the need to posture, my question would be was any attempt made to get the screaming idiots evacuated from the area first? This alone may have been able to help calm Harambe enough to try to tempt him with some other things he may like and possibly save both. This enclosure has been more then sufficient for all this time and I have to agree with many others that said it took more then a few minutes for the child to get in. Also the little child was overheard telling his mom that he wanted to go in. Instead of just telling him no she should have either left the area with him or made him hold her hand. But silly me the photos to social media are so much more important then watching your child.(sarcasm intended,)
Okay well here's the deal zookeepers, if you know them so well,and he was getting agitated because of people yelling out, why not let these people who should've instinctively known to stfu, to stfu?And isn't this pic sweet of her to be lovingly feeding him through a fence. My god, if you love him get him to his "real" home.The only reason people are blaming the zoo is not because the zoo exists but because the enclosures aren't full proof? I'm sick
You're a moron to expect zoos to control masses like this to not scream. Even if you teach people to be calm and how to get to safety in dangerous situation, when that actually happens most will panic and be anything but calm and not save themselves. People scream in panic, that's just how it is. Also zoo existance is fine, but the enclosures should be protected better AND the dumb mom should watch her child, go away scrawny hippie
Load More Replies... a good reasoning should start with human's hubris ... enclosing a living being... disposing of his life as they want... just take a moment and ponder how all "inhuman" act are made by "humans"...
In the first place, the child should not have been exposed to any danger by his parents. As this was not the situation, EVERYTHING should have been done to save both, the boy and Harambe. I don't know whether the child was really in danger - I was not there and can only comment from the video. But I have personally seen a large animal tranquilised by means of a dart and it doesn't take that long for the animal to lose conscience. This is a sensitive matter and each one of us has an opinion. I'm probably wrong, but this is what I feel deep down.
I have seen multiple animals darted — they absolutely do NOT go down easily and can be very dangerous in the process. Your own anecdotal experience is irrelevant.
Load More Replies... I primarily fault Harambee for approaching and touching the boy, then I fault the generally unpredictable and sometimes aggressive nature of all gorillas. Next I fault the boy for going where he should not. Sure he was young, but it was still HIS choices that led to him getting in. They never had a Gorilla escape before so the zoo had adequate means for keeping Gorillas enclosed. The mother didn't want her child to go in. Sure she could have been more careful and I am sure she is very regretful that she wasn't, but it was the gorilla's unpredictable nature and the boy's bad choice that really are to blame. Kids constantly do stupid things. Parents cannot control the outcomes of the nearly incessant bad choices their kids make.
It still breaks my heart that humans locked this incredible, ENDANGERED, magnificent fellow species in a CAGE (because humans are too selfish to share the planet with their fellow earthlings) then when a negligent human allows their child to gain access to this animals captive home the innocent animal loses his life!!!! At the very least the parents should have been charged with child endangerment and the zoo should have sued them (not that you can put a price on Harambes life as it was priceless especially to him) for the loss of their beloved gorilla! As a species that has over populated and destroys and rapes the planet for our selfish egotistical "wants" i have to admit it bothers me more that the gorilla was murdered for simply being a gorilla then if the human hadn't survived.
UR A FRIKIN ZOO SO GET FRIKIN TRANGQUILIZERS harambe didnt need to die also what kind of parents would let their 3 year old get in a frikin enclosure??? what kind of mom are you???? thats like letting your child just, die!!!! WTF?!!??!!??!?
Total BS. F**k the parents They should be sued. Little a*****e! Those asshat parents are not parents at all. No respect no remorse. Ignorance.
B******t! Loser mom let the brat climb all over! Family should be sued!
If you believed he would’ve drowned in the moat after being tranquillized that is odd due to rapid response teams reacting same goes for the gorilla on kid situation. It played out wrong. A Gorilla was killed needlessly everyone wants to say this and that for excuses why but same as the healthcare situation now readiness was sub par so deaths occurs point the finger at everyone else not this Gorilla
F**k off you couldve used tranquilizers cause it still wouldve stopped him
when an interaction between a human and an animal turns out the wrong way and disaster hits, it is always the animal that pays the price of the humans being careless, negligent or superficial...
LIERS !!! YOU JUST WANT TO JUSTIFY YOUR MURDERING !!!
LIES = TO MAKE YOURSELVES FEEL BETTER ABOUT YOUR MURDER
This zoo is horrible i hate them for choosing to kill. Did anyone ever thought of a tranquilizer. Right away first thought is to kill. I will never visit or sponsor any zoo. If this is what they do to these innocent animals. How about building enclosures where kids that can stay still don't fall. Dumb a*s family. I hope they get their karma. U brought an innocent animal to the zoo claiming that you're protecting them instead you killed him. What else will you be killing
You know what. I'm pissed at the idiot mother who didn't pay attention to that child. I'm also mad at the zoo for not child proofing the enclosure. You realize they captured a gorilla only to kill him like he was being hunted. Bunch of idiots all the zoos should be closed. It's not worth having animals to kill them. I will never go to a zoo
RIP harambe I think he was protecting the child And think about it almost every day. I'm 13 and my favorite animal is any type of primate so I've looked up alot of things about monkeys and gorillas. gorillas drag there baby's to clean them or make them dry so I believe that harambe was protecting the boy and the zookeeper who shot him is a horrible human. U will be missed. RIP harambe
I have worked with gorillas since 1986. It has taken me all these years to have the stomach to read this article. As i knew without even watching the film of Harambe's murder, screaming humans with no reflexivity or self control killed this man. He should have been in the wilds of his own land, to begin with. Zoos are slavery. Secondly, because we see oo animals as removed entertainment, like little tvs, humans at the scene didn't know how to comport themselves in a way that ensured a better outcome. I will never believe that Harambe would have killed this child. His death was murder. period. I only wish I had been there to take the bullet for him.
They could have worked to quiet and disperse the crowd... instead they focused on the animal and murdered him. They should have had workers moving the idiotic screaming people. Now a beautiful animal is lost "for the sake" of some typical child. The zookeeper only addresses the part that the gorilla was trying to protect the child, but even if thats not the case, that doesn't follow that the killing the gorilla was justified. If the crowds have been moved, the gorilla would have also calmed down. Our society would be more benefited by killing the offspring of idiotic screaming parents.
Zookeeper: Well he wasn't trying to protect the child, he was trying to frighten the crazy crowd away Other person if this was a convo and not a statement: ... that doesn't explain why you shot him....
Load More Replies... I think harambe was trying to protect the kid not hurt him in the mother needs to watch her kids better cuz If harambe was trying to hurt the kid and that would have been back some mother isn't watching her kids and is being negligent
RIP harambe listen yes the zoo encloser should have been better
Haramnbe was a one of a kind silverback and for no good reason he is dead RIP harambe AND WHY DID THEY NOT USE TRANQS? THAT WAY THE CHILD AND HARAMBE COULD HAVE BEEN SAVED... THEY ARE GORILLA RACIZM BRUH
ok. WHY DO PEOPLE THINK IT IS A GOOD IDEA TO IMPRISON ANY ANIMAL IN A ZOO? HUMANS LAUGH OUTSIDE WHILE THE POOR ANIMALS CRY FOR THEIR WILD ANCESTORS INSIDE! Harambe was innocent! I LOATHE THE PERSON WHO SAID THIS ARTICLE! I can't understand why humans have to hate animals so much. IF PEOPLE DO NOT CAPTURE ANIMALS THIS WOULD NEVER HAPPEN!!!!!!!
You can point a finger at the unwashed and uneducated masses who scream like they were the lower f*****g primates. WHAT GOOD DOES SCREAMING AT A GORILLA DO, S**T FOR BRAINS?!? If everybody realized they had to retreat and stay quiet, and f*****g DID it, there might have been a far different outcome. Yes the zoo and mother was at fault, but MOSTLY THE F*****G CROWD.
hey Julia can i use you're photos on your article for a class project.
The Zoo Keeper is an idiot and total moron. She gives the reason for not using a tranquilizer as "Harambe would have drowned in the water possibly trapping the boy beneath him"..... Is she really this f*****g stupid? Shooting him with a gun will make him dead in the water possibly trapping the boy beneath him? Like what the f**k? Does the zookeeper have s**t for brains?
First off the enclosure's walls should have been taller than 3 feet silverbacks are going extinct and they just shot him they could have done something better than that
Should have shot the parents as well as shut down the zoo permanently. They dont deserve to operate if this is the best they can do. RIP 100% completely innocent animal. Pathetic.
The parents ignored their child resulting in the death of Harambe. R.I.P
That's why zoos are awful places, none of this would have taken place if the animal was left in the wild
In the end did she say loss or revenue for the zoo!!!! I really hope I'm misunderstanding something here.
I think there should not be any more zoos these animals are paying the price for these unfortunate accidents
It's the zoos fault no one either a kid or idiot should be able to get into enclosures, it's happened more than once so why don't people learn????
Seriously people, everyone with kids have at sometime removed there eyes from there child for a few seconds at one point in their life, so don't tell me that you have not. Kids are fast, it dosnt take long before they can disappear. Yes the enclosure should have been more secure, but the boy got in. Now think people for just one second, if that was your child dragged along in the water with a gorilla, double the size of any human wouldn't you want them to do anything possible and necessary to keep them safe. Would you really want to just take a chance and hope for the best. This isn't about killing an animal, it's about saving a little child's life. If that was my child in there I would shoot any animal that put my child's life at risk. The zoo just dosnt shoot animals. Seriously people grow up, stop crapping on about animal rights and think about a child's life. If you still think that they did wrong, I suggest you don't have kids.
So greatful to you for sharing this info. I feel sad an animal loss it's life, but I think did the right thing to protect the child. I think it's sad how much hatred was expressed to this Mother and her child. Children are curious and can get away quickly. I think it's sad how no one in the crowd could stop yelling, and thought their noise didn't make matters worse. Why aren't we getting angry at them, and putting charges up on them? Because that would be ignorant, so is trying to charge this Mother for like so many others, rough her child to a Zoo. I agree there shouldn't be a blame game, but a learning experience, to help people learn how to act in emergency, how we need better enclosures, and there is nothing wrong with putting your child on a safety harness. I so appreciate Ms. Amanda O'Dunouhughe for sharing this insightful info to the public. It is sad that so many people, that were not even there went on the attack of the Zoo, the this Mother. We shouldn't judge.
Mommy was yelling the entire time too. And her kids told her he was going into the gorilla’s enclosure and all she said was “no”, with no follow up. Mommy deserves charges, regardless of how naive people excuse her incompetence away.
Load More Replies... I blame the zoo for having a wild animal, they need to be in there own environment, not cooped up in a zoo. They have no privacy of there own, people watching them, caretakers feeding them and etc. Zoo's should be extinct, not the animals. you may as well put them in jail, this is all the room you get. the animals are not happy. At least in a safari, they have room to roam.
Yes, the boy should not have been able to get over the enclosure. But after saying several times that he was going in the mother should have never turned her back away from him. Harambe was only doing what he knew to do . The zoo and the parents share the blame for the boy getting into the enclosure and harambe owns none of it.
Thank you! Finally an intelligent , true based on fact , comment !
Load More Replies... F this b***h shes nothing but a prison guard! She is not an animal behaviorist! She deserves the same fate as the gorilla evil troll! Seriously anyone who thinks this animal should have been gun down shouldnt be working with animals!
The parents should of been watching their child better, because they didn't a beautiful animal had to lose his life for someone's negligence. RIP big guy.
Kids are stupid especially the kid who was the cause of the death of harambe the kid is stupid and the parents did not do a great job looking for the kid the kid was 3 really hate thefact that haramabe was killed since the zoo kepper could have jumped in the cage and grab the boy and get them get him upthere BUT NO NO NO STUPID ZOOKEEPER DECIDE HEY IM GONNA KILL HARAMABE INSTEAD OF GETTING THE KID OUT LIKE GETTING A ROPE OR PULLING THE KID UP TO THE SURFACE
My parent reaction would be jump in and make an escape possible for my kid and let the ape beat me to death, but hey guess you americans like to watch your kids die and just act tough in the media /comments...
Insanity..the ape was definitely looking out for the child,the child was not on any real danger..
How can one blame the gorilla, the article is well written, after the kid was ‘G, handled and the gorilla shot.!! A four year old gets into an enclosure .. that’s the statement of the year .. “ don’t the wild protect their own species from predators” , and this was a enclosure, where was the mum, why did a human leave a four year old unattended.. well apparently the law pardoned the negligence of the mother and silenced an specie for its nature ...I’m pretty sure the mum has some time to produce another and still be negligent, .. if you can’t handle your life don’t have an offspring and end an another life because of ones own stupidity .
The kid was in imminent danger, the question was how much more risk should they have put the child in? The answer is none...
He was really trying to help the kid but he probably wasn’t very good at it yet. He should’ve died peacefully.
harambe did not know what he was doing maybe he thought the kid was food but if they trankalized him he and the kid would of died.
plus i did reasearch now look up why didnt they use tranq dart... he is dum i did me own testz HE IS LIAR AND NEEDS EXCUSE i wish magic were real then i could bring back harambe. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ 🦍👻
I honestly think it wasn't the child's fault because he was a three year old, but I blame the mother for being negligent and the zoo since a f*****g three year old could climb into the enclosure and kill our lord harambe. #heilharambe
its ridiculous. the parents of that kid were probably some sort of irresponsible teen parents. Harambe shouldnt have dide :( R.I.P
Don't you think that the idiots supervising that child, or the child himself had this coming? Their genes should've ended right then and there, they aren't survivors, they're idiots, and if that f*****g idiot kid didn't die this time, he'd die the next in an even more stupid accident.
He's a CHILD you DUMBASS. Here's a news flash: children don't think RATIONALLY, s**t for brains! Evidently, neither do you!
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I still don't understand: how did the damn kid fall in the f****ing enclosure?!!,
It wouldn't have happened if the Gorillas were in the wild where they should be. I understand that some zoos are used when the species are endangered and they try to minimise the extinction but that does not mean that they should be exposed to human ignorance by letting people visit them. The job is to save the animals not to make a show out of them.
While true, adding that the zoo has lost a cash cow kind of put a damper on the Rest of what she said. Should have left that out as it made her praise and supposed appreciation of Harambe less genuine sounding.
and matt garner we all should move on ur right its in the past nothing we can do to stop it from happening now...
matt garner ur right lets all move on srsly though its in the past now, nothing we can do to stop it we dont have a time machine dont we....
No doubt fault is Zoo and ofParents both. Could have saved one life. But just pay attention - What If ???? Child would have got hurt ???? There would have been stories again and I guess worse than current stories. So it was a decision for a lesser harm- and that was made to save life of prominent species. No male gorilla take care of kids - that's job of females there too.
No, you racist walking turd, it's because the uneducated stupid crowd screamed their heads off, as if it would help anything. A crowd you would have evidently fit right into given the stupidity you write. And before you even start, I'm a middle aged white male. LowIntellect AnalSphincter.
Load More Replies... Blind f...ing parents.. I don't know why some couple chose to have kids when they are not mature enough and responsible enough to handle them..
Again, parents MUST hold on to their little kids, if you cannot control your child then DON'T take them to zoos. I haven't heard if the father was present, but the mother at the very least should pay restitutions for the death of this gorilla and for the fact she had NO control over her child. You can't really blame zoo for this as it never happened before and NO amount of protections is fool proof
Control? You can't "control" everything 24/7. Nobody's perfect.
Load More Replies... As many fingers that are pointing blame that's how many prayers we should be praying that this little one can overcome being traumatized by this situation. I'm sure the zoo will reconsider and reconstruct the enclosure. The mother has not only suffered her own judgement but thousands of others as we as a society think we have the right to judge others. We have thousands of men and women fighting and losing there lives to give us our freedom! Is this the best we can do with this freedom? We are better than this...
You know nothing, the zoo had a statement saying that it was a secure cage and yet the mother was not around to stop the kid from figure out how to get in, think about.
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They could have fed the gorilla with food that contained the tranquilizer. Then there would have been no dart to scare him.
Yeah, cause he was really craving a banana at the time right?
Load More Replies... I think authorities used the right protocol to diffuse the situation.. For everyone complaining if u happen yo fall in the hands of a gorilla, lion or tiger I will be sure to use a tranquilizer gun and much prayer!
I say some parents and zoo the parents didn't watch their child as they should have and the zoo should have better barriers so kids can't get through them!
It's the parents responsibilities to watch their kids while visiting the zoo.I don't think that gorilla will harm the kid he try to protect the boy like its family but because the parents and visitors scream the gorilla panick so the tendency is move and drag or carry the boy. It's party to be blame are the parents and the zookeeper who should put more protection to this gorilla area and big sign watch your children
This is one lady's opinion. Ten zoo keepers, like Supreme Court justices, would have ten different opinions. She may be right, she may be wrong, who really knows? Tragic, either way.
I believe it was unfortunate accident something everybody can learn don't cast the first stone is unfortunate either way
I totally agree with Crystal Rose, the zoo should have been very well protected with suitable fencing, and the parents shouldhave been in better control of their child. Very sad, but reading more today, can understand they did what they had to do. Its a case of being in trouble whatever decision they made.
To all the "perfect" parents who are pointing their fingers at the mother of a 3 year old: Have you ever dropped your toddler's hand for just a second to reach into your purse for something and had said toddler make a break for the road? Have you ever had a 3 year old squirm out of your grasp? No? Never? Liar!
The parents or guardian should've been watching the child, if they was watching him how did he get in with the gorilla in the 1st place
As a mother who has taken her child to the zoo many times I have to say even when holding a childs hand they can move so fast to see something they want to. Who's to say if the mother was negligent or not. It was an accident, a very sad accident but an accident no the less pointing fingers does not take away the fact that it happened . People need to be aware and cautious. BUT ALSO KIND.
No zoos. Animals in the wild where they belong. Take a safari go to the jungle or where ever to see them. Case closed and nobody would be in the wrong. ya think.
4why not just leave the animals in the wild where they belong and if you want to see them go to the jungle or take a safari. Case solved and nobody is right or wrong. Ya think.
Think everyone can learn by this, no one knows how to deal with a dangerous situation until it happens, most definately both sides to blame, so instead of trying to prosecute, we should support and get the message across, keep your kids close,, and zoos to make extra security in and around dangerous animals, ????
I think the mother of the child should have been paying more attention to him and could this have been staged for a lawsuit? ??? Maybe cause the little boy had to go through 4 things before he got to where he could jump, now someone please explain why someone didn't try to stop the child or Hillary for help before he got to where he could jump???????
I don't think Harambe wanted to harm the child, If he did he would have killed the boy instantly I do think Harambe was protecting the little boy. As far as I am concerned the Gorilla should have not lost his life and yes I do blame the his mother rip Harambe what a shame.
this entire situation is sad...and frustrating on many levels...only prevention would have saved the life of this gorilla...a more attentive parent and I suppose better zoo enclosure. Yet, it is true that a gorilla with a child in its enclosure becomes like an erratic human( and some of those humans need to be shot to protect whomever they are holding to "intimidate" others.
i agree crystal no 1 should beable 2 get in there or out 4 that matter sad but know 1 knows wat harambe woulda did .rip
This beautiful wild animal should never have been in an enclosure in the first place. Keeping animals in "enclosures" for humans entertainment is a questionable practice.
I agree with Crystal Rose. both at fault. however, I think that going to zoo's and malls and crowed busy places it should be one on one with child and adult . in many cases this cant happen, so......... use one of those leashies that are made for this reason. and ppl should keep their mouths SHUT to the ppl who use them this would not have happened if ppl would go the extra mile to keep kids safe and secure.
CAN'T YOU UNDERSTAND PLAIN ENGLISH THE ZOO WAS NOT IN ANY WAY AT FAULT FOR THE IGNORANCE AND STUPIDITY OF an uncaring adult and that's what we have here if the kid was supervised this would NOT have happened put the blame where it belongs on the PARENTS oh great idiot ones
Load More Replies... The zoo keeper said in this article that they would not tranquilize Harembe because 1.. the drug would take too long but at that time the boy was safe and not being harmed so, they had to wait but could still be watching the animal... 2.. Haremaba could have fallen and drowned, really well in my opinion it would have been better than shooting him, at least he would have stood a chance of survival and 3.. If they had shot him he could have fallen on the boy which also could have happened when they shot him... dead. She said he was just showing off in front of the crowd, I've seen Gorilla's do the same thing with their own babies, he would not have hurt him, the zoo keeper said he would not have hurt him, Gorilla's are kind, gentle creatures, if he had intended to harm the little boy he would have done it straight away
Wild animals shouldn't be in ANY enclosure! They should be left alone to live in peace.
Really tragic. Animals need better protection from intruders into their space in zoos. Trained athletes should attempt intrusion, to find the weak links. Like the horrendous failures at the TSA, I suspect these 'testers' will find many, many places that people, especially little ones, will penetrate, and risk the lives of the animals.
It was an "accident" or they would be called an "on purposes "....A 4 year old still doesn't understand consequences of behavior, like don't crawl under there you'll fall into a gorillas pit! Come on now....The Zoo should of better protected their animals, that's their JOB. They failed. The parents were not at fault, the little boy was not at fault and a horrible fact that the gorilla was NOT at fault. The Zoo was at fault.
I CN POINT FINGERS AT THE STUPID WOMAN WHO DIDNT KEEP HER KID ON A LEASH OR IN A FRIGGEN STROLLER! I HAVE A DAUGHTER THAT KIDS AGE AND YOU CAN BET YOU BALLSACK THAT SHE'D F****N BE IN A STROLLER OR ON A HARNESS!
Oh and the lost of revenue don't forget from last few sentences. Wow ain't that the truth dumbasses
OMG, we need to learn from this. Mistakes are learning tools. Yes a better enclosure, and no its no ones fault. Accidents happen every moment of our lives. This King of Animals was a risk, and they assessed well and worked fast. Please really pointing fingers and stateing the obvious is not solving anything , just stirring the pot. Let's be knowledgeable. I'm glad see in news, good info. Just stop dirtying the waters, parenting is not perfect science for every child, and parenting a Gorrilla is not either, ugh ....OK feel vented.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/cincinnati-zoo-gorilla-harambe-boy-animal-behaviour-experts-question-shooting-silverback-video-a7057371.html
To be honest from the level of ignorance about zoos ie Zoological societies that work for the *conservation* of animals, it seems clear that the objections to the male gorilla being shot to protect a human toddler are less about the "beautiful animal" and more about inhumanity and racism. If people care about animals so much, why don't they know anything about Zoos? Do these people object to urbanisation which can cause the very habitat loss that puts these animals in danger in the first place? Do you eat meat? Do you live independent from your family? Do you use communication technology? Do you know how any of this impacts animals? If you're not willing to live in the jungle with pre-farming stone age technology STFU.
I blame the child's parents. They obviously weren't watching their child properly. When there is danger about, you watch your children MORE CLOSELY, not less so. Only a MORON wouldn't protect their children around danger. Only a moron would think they were 100% safe in such situations. I'm an intelligent parent and would have paid MORE attention to my children when near any level of danger. These people need to be charged with negligence and endangering a child.
if anything it was the parents fault cuz if they were watching him he wouldn't of climbed in there
The 4 year old kid got in the moat in a split second? if so, the kid should be training US Army Delta Force. Harambe belongs free in Africa, and put the kid's mother on exhibit.... if she don't think so. would she repeat her behavior?
If the child disappeared in a split second in the moat, he should be training Delta force during the week and Navy Seals on the weekends. Harambe belongs free in Africa, and the kid's mother belongs caged.
it has been confirmed by the American zoo federation that harmbie was trying to injure the child he deserved to die humans are supreme
It was just an accident. Calm down, that poor mother is being judged by the whole world. It's hypocritical
this is an evaluation by a prior zookeeper that is given general directions on animals within their jurisdiction. Do not make the mistake the comments given here as an expert opinion on animal behavior, because they are not. These comments are structured to address public outcry and are directed to human psychological concerns rather than the problem at hand
I might have known it was a black child. More unsupervised illegitimate children
I have kids and i know i don't take my eyes or hands off my kids... They don't deserve to have kids in my opinion!!
All you idiots blaming the zoo the kid is4 where in the hell is the supervision and control of that kid you all are refering to other zoos I thought we were talking about this one if that kid wasn't supervised in this situation I can only imagine how he is supervised at home NOT at all and from the looks of the picture that was put on here they look like the careless type next thing you know their going to sue the zoo for their ignorance and stupidity or maybe their lives are so boring and nonexistent they put their kid in jeopardy to get some sort of excitement and don't jump me happens everyday some we hear about and the majority we don't so think about it the zoo was NOT at fault for the lack of supervision put a leash on the boy hands were made for holding they might want to try that or just anything to keep the boy safe or take parenting classes where they will teach you how to keep your child safe the only thing about you have to listen and do then you won't have this type of thi
Harambe could have killed that child in an instant if he wanted to. This "expert zookeeper's" opinion is contradicted by her very own statements about how strong gorillas are. And, sorry but not sorry, I have to defer to real ape expert, Jane Goodall, in this situation. Harambe posed no harm to the child. The child was not a threat to him. The child's parents, however, seem to be.
I call b******t on this article! Harabe was raised by a human zoo keeper until he was sent to the Cincy Zoo!
ahem the American federation of zoos stated today that harmbie was scientifically showing hostile behavior to the child and it was not the parents fault and if u think that go f**k yourself kill all the animals hums are supreme
I was really surprised that the little boy was not crying and pulling away. Instead, he seemed curious and compliant. I am not sure which action was better.
I have a 3 year old grand daughter and she moves like lighting I believe that little boy just slipped through the Crack and people should stop blaming his mother sad for the gorilla but human life comes first no matter....that's my take on it
Just imagine the opposite headline. Toddler killed by gorilla. Zoo keepers take no action in their wait and see tactic. Lawsuit pending.
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