35 Pics Showing The Other Side Of The George Floyd Protests That The Mainstream Media Is Reluctant To Share

Admittedly, I can only go by the surveys that I've seen in the UK but I do think they can serve a purpose. For example, the NHS uses ethnic monitoring surveys. Helps to ensure that the NHS is meeting the needs of all ethnic groups. For example if X% of the population is of X ethnicity - is a similar percentage making use of the services available? If not then it can be explored to see if they are unaware or unable to access the services and why. Or knowing how many people will speak a particular language and making sure that there is accessible information and staff who can talk to them. These aren't about preventing racism or making it worse but about ensuring people's needs are met.

Unfortunately, it's still important. If we don't track things like race and gender - things that we would love to become unimportant over time - then we can't know whether or not it's getting better. We still need to see whether things like unemployment, education, wages, prison sentences, etc etc break down across racial lines. I work at a university and we were recently overhauling our enrollment system, and we very nearly removed gender as a question on the form. Then we realized that without that information, we can't ask questions such as whether there is a high percentage of men in STEM or women in Nursing, data which informs recruiting and hopefully helps to erase cultural bias in the long run. So we just made sure it was clear that we were asking about which gender you identify with, and gave nonbinary as an option. Unfortunately, until race and gender really DON'T matter, we can't possibly stop asking about them without being part of the problem.

These actions will have effects, but you're right in saying they won't be lasting. The fight for justice and equality is never-ending. There's no 'we won' moment, no victory march. You have to get up every day and keep fighting, because even though this fight can't be 'won', it can certainly be lost. Race is an artificial construct; all humans are brown, and we all bleed red. Any other judgement is simply bigotry. Keep fighting, and even if all you ever do is change one mind... well, that's one less bigot in the world, and that's a win.

Racism and hatred will never be 100% gone. But things could change. LGBTQ rights have changed and that started with protests and riots. Interracial marriage is allowed. Black people and women are allowed to vote. So we KNOW things can change - why not this?

But that's the thing, it's so much bigger than just cop violence, but there is this growing awareness of us, the rest of the world, that that is what's wrong! So even if this just preps the world for feeling free to judge the heck out of it, it has done good work. It's just unimaginable that a person needs to die for this to get moving.

You forgot one thing. All 4 officers present for the killing were immediately fired, one was charged with murder, and more charges will be coming after the investigation. Before, the cops would either get a slap on the wrist, or congratulations for what they did. That is definite progress in a good direction.

We have to change the hearts and minds of American PEOPLE. All the rest of that is window dressing. It's a process. It will take time.

I agree and disagree. Because there are health problems that affect more some races or ethnicities than others (same with sex). But since racism still haunts us, maybe the word "race" in health studies should be renamed...? Idk the answer

IKR! You would expect something better from a country made by immigrants and that has a history of killing the Natives and using slavery. As you say correctly, we are all humans and should treat others as we would want to be treated ourselves.

The problem is that until racism is defeated, no one will be able to measure its impact without those questions. It would be akin to ignoring it and that won't make it go away either.

I agree, however, from a medical standpoint it does make a difference. Certain diseases are more prevalent in certain groups. We actually use different “normal” values in some lab tests and even Lung function tests for Blacks, Whites, and Asians.

the NHS needs the ethnicity of their patients because certain conditions have a higher risk among certain races. Plus with the African Diaspora there is an ongoing issue of poor mental health because of culture. This is backed by research if anyone wants to flame me over it. Ive reviewed a dissertation( by a black south african) in May this year who researched this and proposed a solution to remove cultural stigma barriers..

The name your race surveys in the US are designed to identify when discrimination may be happening, or as Carrie said, to see if a given service is not reaching a specific community.

When I fill out the paperwork to enroll my kids for school, it asks what race? I always cross out that question and print. “Why does it matter?”

Or in the news describing the person by the color of their skin

Skin colour seems to still be a statistically significant factor - which is the other point of all these protests. As long as asking skin colour is legal and surveys need to be effective, they'll keep asking that. Only way to overcome racism is to ignore it to death. Paradoxically enough.

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I agree with you, but I keep asking and no one has answered, what proof that George Floyd's death was due to racism? The Amy Cooper Central Park thing was definitely racism at work. She did the female equivalent of trying to beat him up. Of course there is racism, but you can't blame racism for any bad thing without some proof. If we've shifted away from the murder of George Floyd to racism, then we're losing focus. We don't know that Chauvin wasn't just a straight up sociopath - not to say a person can't be both a racist and a sociopath. I was reading today, and so far, nobody has really been able to prove that killings of black men by police are racially motivated. There just isn't enough data. For example, in a low-income neighborhood with lots of white people, many more white people wil be shot by police than black people. Of course cops in one city might be much more racist than in another due to culture.

At least now they have a box for Other. 50 years ago in the south, the colored's were probably not even allowed to take the survey.

THE POLICE DID THIS SUPPORTIVE SHIT IN MULTIPLE STATES ONLY TO START FIRING MINUTES LATER. do not trust them. There are literally multiple videos of them pulling this shit. They're all fucking assholes

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We've seen no evidence that George Floyd's death was related to racism. Anyone who says simply, "cop was white, dead guy is black, so must be racist" is in fact a racist cuz they don't the dead guy as human first, race second. They can't see other motive besides race. Chauvin might have simply been a sociopath. The fact that he sat there and did that while knowing he was filmed fits much more with a diagnosis of antisocial personality disorder than with someone who is racist, since a racist will hide it when filmed. I know white people like to congratulate themselves on not being racist by agreeing with every message put out by BLM, but they are not always right and don't represent the thoughts, views, goals, or tactics of all black people. We will never stop this from happening if we think it's about race or only about race only. It's about police culture and many other things.