Woman Shares How Her Friend Got Arrested And Taken To A Mental Hospital After Her Work Called The Police When She Decided To Quit
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Sometimes people like their jobs but still quit because a better offer comes along, and in other cases, they might hate their job so much that they quit just to get away from it despite not having a particular plan in mind. But at least they don’t have to suffer from the job or the people anymore.
Not everyone is so lucky. A person came to Reddit to vent about the unfairness of her friend’s employer, who got the former employee arrested after they asked for a wellness check because she left the job after 15 years. While you can’t claim that they did it on purpose, it did feel suspicious.
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Woman is so proud of her friend who finally quit her toxic job just to find out they are petty enough to get a former employee arrested for nothing
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The Original Poster (OP) who goes by the username Ok_Judgment4141 has a friend who had been a cake decorator working for Fred Meyer for 15 years. They actually used to work together and that is how they met, because the author of the post also decorated cakes and was the manager of the bakery, but she left a few years ago and started her own business.
The woman described the job as requiring creativity, but that was not the case at Fred Meyer and when Bored Panda contacted the OP, she let us know that it was a toxic environment to work at and she has never been happier than now, working for herself.
She added, “Fred Meyer has stolen years of our lives. When we come home after a toxic workplace, our emotions and thoughts are still withdrawing from everyday abuse. When we get together with other co-workers, outside of work, all we do is berate and talk about how we’re being abused by our employer.”
The author of the story is friends with a former coworker who finally decided to leave her emotionally abusive workplace after 15 years
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But until recently, OP’s friend still worked at Fred Meyers. The friend suffered emotional and psychological abuse and tolerated it, but what made her take the leap was when she was suspended for not coming to a shift that she wasn’t supposed to be scheduled on.
The OP encouraged the friend to do what would make her happy and this was all the encouragement the woman needed. Although, it wasn’t a smooth process. The next time Ok_Judgment4141 heard from her friend was when she called her from a mental hospital where she was taken after being arrested.
The woman was very happy for her friend until she got a call from her saying that she was in a mental hospital where she was taken by the police in handcuffs
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Turns out, the employer asked for a wellness check on the friend and when the policemen asked if the woman had any thoughts of harming herself or others, she was sincere and opened up that she was mentally in a bad place and she had such thoughts.
This is when they handcuffed her and took her away in the middle of a walk an hour after she attended her first therapy session. The Redditor believes that workplaces should definitely care about their employees’ mental health, but she asks “Why couldn’t they just call my friend’s emergency contacts to check on her before calling the police?” Also, why did the police come alone without a mental health professional?
Turns out, the workplace asked for a wellness check and when the friend confessed her dark thoughts caused by her toxic job to the police, they arrested her
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It makes it seem that the employer knew what they were doing and of the possible consequences. Ok_Judgment4141 and her friend can’t prove if it was done out of spite, but she told us, “I wouldn’t put it past them. I’ve known managers do petty a*s s**t before. Got endless examples.”
Fortunately, the friend is doing fine except for the massive medical bill and this traumatizing experience didn’t break her spirit: “She’s excited like she just divorced an abusive relationship. She is looking to the future, I encourage her to go take a weekend away with her and her husband and kids.”
The Redditor believes that “She’s in no danger to herself or others, she’s incredibly sweet and shy and passive. Not one mean bone in her body.”
However, now that she has been released from the hospital, she is considering suing the company and the successful examples she witnessed give hope. “We do have a friend, an old coworker, who was able to sue the same company for mental and emotional distress… And won! I have another friend who had a similar circumstance with a different company, sued and won. She is actively seeking help, professionally and through friends.”
The friend was taken to a mental hospital and held there for 5 days at her own expense when she already had a therapy session booked an hour before the police came
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It seems that the OP’s friend has a shot at getting justice served and is seriously taking care of herself. People in the comments actually related to the woman because apparently former employers are kind of petty and will do such things more often than you would think.
Have you ever heard of similar stories? Why do you think the workplace just can’t let go of employees without harming them further? Do you think wellness checks are actually useful? Let us know your thoughts in the comments.
Readers concluded that it was a mistake to talk to the police but also weren’t surprised at the former employer’s actions as they had similar experiences
Where I live, the Police could take her to hospital. However, they would most definitely not put her in handcuffs and placed in a police car whilst she was shouting for her husband. The police would have spent time defusing the situation, and assessing it. IF they felt she needed to be taken to hospital they could do so, but once there, two doctors would need to agree that she needed to be detained. People do not get detained because they 'gave the wrong answer to the police'. Every attempt would have been taken to get the woman to voluntarily agree to remain in hospital. The doctors in the hospital would contact the therapist, and ask for their professional advice. The hospital would also have contacted her next of kin to explain what was going on.
Exactly! I've witnessed the cops here detain someone and ask them about harming themselves. They asked more questions, like if they've thought about how they would do it. The cops did their job, but not well. In Ohio, and I thought most states, the maximum hold is 72 hours. Why this woman is shocked they took her to the hospital when she answered their question that way is beyond my understanding. For many, many people, those holds are lifesaving.
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I once called the police for a wellness check in my country. A friend didn't answer their phone, didn't answer their door and I was sure they were home since we were supposed to meet at that time. What they did: they cane, rang the doorbell, knocked, got a door service to open the door without damaging it, went in and found my friend asleep, totally exhausted. They could wake him up then though. They told him they wouldn't leave until he had someone come over and care for him because he was very sick with high fever, he told me to call his mom who arrived an hour later. They helped us packing a bag for him and accompanied him and his mom to her home, ensuring he was safe and told them to take care and call an ambulance if it got worse. Everyone said thank you and they left. That is how you do a wellness check. What is wrong with America?
Absolutely perfect. That is a wonderful model of how to perform a wellness check.
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I have a feeling we may not be getting the whole story. Regardless of whether her company called the cops to do a wellness check purely out of spite or not (they *could* have had a legitimate concern, it may or may not have been malicious, we don't know either way), if you tell police you're thinking of hurting yourself or someone else, then their job requires them to detain you (she wasn't arrested, she was detained). Not enough info to know if this didn't play out the way it should have or not 🤷🏼♂️
The police come to detain you. If you have anxiety, being away from home and/or comfortable settings will cause huge, crippling panic attacks. If they see this, you can be "detained" by a medical professional for a week at the least as it is seen as "irrational".
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I was given the advice to try very hard to stay calm if the police come to do a "welfare check" due to mental illness (I have several issues). IF you keep calm, they detain you at a hospital for maybe a day. If, however, you freak out, understandably, and more so if you have anxiety and they take you away from your comfort zone - the stay will likely last 5 days no matter what.
The cops were a life saver to a friend of mine who I think was pretty much in the same state as this person. I bet the police had a longer talk with this person than the OP realized. They’re there to protect a person who seems mentally unwell. The handcuffs were wrong unless she seemed to be a danger to others. When a patient confirms self-harming thoughts, the police have to take her to the hospital. They’re not doctors and can’t do a long, informed interview. The fact that the psychiatrist(s) held her for 5 days speaks volumes. Hospital beds are usually scarce so they don’t keep patients unless they really think it’s necessary.
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America is far from the only country with psychiatric holds
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Oh yay. Another AITA type of story on BP. And this one is kind of BS. You don't like employer so blame everything on employer. I'm not saying it wasn't a bad work environment. But the "sue the store / sue the cops" bit is just BS. You said she had a mental break down. They called for a welfare check. She told the cops she might harm herself or others. They took her in for an evaluation. And not stated but if she is being held for 5 days it seems very likely she gave the medical staff reason for concern about her well being. Nobody profits from burdening the police or medical system. If they thought she was fine they would have let her walk home. The work environment at that store may truly suck but there is no lawsuit here based on the information given. EDIT: It may vary some by state but in the USA the criteria for an involuntary mental observation is they did or appear likely to harm themselves or others. "Be a danger to" is think how it is worded in my state.
What kind of employment hell you guys have in the US? :-O wellness check? Cops just grabbing you and taking you away? What the...
We haven't reached Russian or Iranian levels of "state-provided care" yet, but we aren't that far off.
Load More Replies... When a police officer or paramedic asks if have thoughts about harming yourself or others, be very careful how you answer. If you answer in the affirmative - even if you're joking or being sarcastic - they are legally obligated in most states to take you to a hospital for psychiatric observation. Also, if you get taken to a hospital under these circumstances, resist the urge to get angry and indignant. Once you tell them you were upset, but now you've calmed down and have no intention of hurting anyone, they're usually obligated to release you.
I'm going to have a heck of a time not getting extremely angry and indignant when they try to bill me for somewhere I have imprisoned involuntarily. F that noise!
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And what if she committed "unalive". FFS people. The cops were right to detain her, her answer was the worst thing she could have said. But, why is Kroger doing a welfare check on a FORMER employee? Totally agree with not talking to cops. Give name and STOP. Ask for a lawyer, repeatedly. And don't fall for that they just get you into a room and kind of stare at you. People's instinct is to try to fill up awkward silences. Resist that with all your might, count the fly droppings on the wall over the cops head or something and keep repeating you want your lawyer.
Sigh. Her behavior was concerning enough that her previous employer asked for a wellness check. At that wellness check, she said she was having thoughts of self-harm and harming others. Then, when she was being evaluated by medical professionals, they determined that she was a grave enough risk for a psych hold. They don’t do that easily or lightly, in fact it can be quite difficult to get admitted, so she must have presented as a threat to herself or others. Sounds like everything worked as it should and she needs a lot of help. I think her employer did the right thing.
I work at an inpatient psychiatric facility. The stories from patients are often far different from the reality. One dude: "I was at home minding my own business when cops broke down my door!" Reality: He had a gun and two of his kids barricaded in the bathroom. I'm sure he told everyone he was at home minding his own business and did nothing wrong.
Even if she was at a point where she needed to go to a mental hospital this is such a s****y way of “helping” people. As it it isn’t already difficult enough to ask for help when struggling. Can’t get help without risking being traumatized but can’t stay silent without risking the problems becoming even worse
That last comment! I learned it the hard way - do not tell ER doctors or cops that you had thoughts of suicide. They WILL lock you up. I had severe depression and that came with passing thoughts of dying, but I really was not intending to do that - all I needed was my does of antidepressants increased. But my doctor was not available, they recommended I go to ER and I got locked up. Worst experience of my life! No real help - just heavier medication. Which I needed, but why did I have to be taken in for that? And the lack of privacy, stupid wake & sleep schedule, gross food etc. etc. were not really helping me. Mental health in the US sucks! Oh, and also the police should not be tasked with wellness checks and mental health checks - they are not trained for that. We need medically trained professionals and mental healthcare advisers to do the checks.
The problem I've seen many times is the police, doctors, welfare workers, psychologists are convinced that their personal twisted sense of reality applies to everyone as if people were made on an assembly line and should all be exactly the same. I feel more often than not, it's the caregivers that need to be put away rather than the individual. This story just goes to support me.
Are we *sure* it was the former employer who called for the wellness check? It sounds like she had just left the therapist's office. Maybe it was the therapist who called. Also ... why did she use her (one?) phone call to call her friend? Why not her husband, a lawyer, or another family member.
One my fellow Indonesian when visiting US as tourist have the same experience. She has mental issue and decide to turn off her phone for sometime. One of her friend then as police to look for her, so they found her and force her to mental hospital for somedays. Then she has to pay around 20K USD for the stay. Crazy
The whole situation is messed up, BUT it's possible she said some crazy s**t when she quit. And if she worked there a long time, it's possible some people were actually concerned. Maybe she caused a scene, she did quit on the job. I mean I worked some jobs that had me at my wits end and when you go to quit them, the adrenaline starts pumping... Even if they are blatantly the most evil people in the world, you will always look like the crazy wack job. Regardless what happened, afterwards was just terrible. I would be so livid. If she wasn't going to f' someone up before she probably is 10x more likely after getting out of that situation. Like wtf.
In the US, if a police officer ever ask you if you've had thoughts of harming yourself and you give any response which is reasonably construed as yes or possibly - they are duty bound to take you in on a 5150 - 72hr min psych hold (doctor's diagnosis can increase it) - and you can't revise your answer after the fact.
5150 is a California statute that allows police to put you on a 72 hour hold for "psychiatric observation". The laws vary from state to state, but I beleive in most states cops are allowed to take you to a mental ward you if they have credible evidence you are a threat to yourself or others.
Load More Replies... It is so strange for me to read that cops are not your friend. This is not how it is supposed to be. The slogan of our police is „the police, your friend and helper“ and for the most part they really are! I am so very sorry for you all.
They never have been your friend or any civilians friend. They are not there to help you. The tools they use, weapons, force, arrest are the tools they will use. So if you don't want shot, beaten, or arrested, do not talk to cops.
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a kind of similar thing happened to me. i made an attempt on my life. cops and ambulance showed up. was taken to hospital. because i'd made an attempt, i had to be committed and evaluated. to ensure this was done, the police had to drive me from the hospital to the mental health facility. policy is that, if you are riding in a police vehicle, you MUST be handcuffed. the guy kept apologizing to me that i had to ride that way. so- DON'T tell ANYONE that you could harm yourself or others unless you're serious. this includes therapists, doctors, teachers DO expect the cops to handcuff you if you're riding in a police vehicle. DO expect to get committed for evaluation if you say you've had thoughts of harming yourself of others.
Kroger the grocery store? That is insane. There are some programs (within police?) that have different responses to wellness checks other than police. Like trained intervention type people instead of police (who have the tendency to escalate every situation).
Kroger bought Fred Meyer and Albertsons. They are now trying to buy Safeway. Soon ALL grocery stores will be Kroger!
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It's absolutely terrifying that the police are viewed as the enemy in the US, not only because of racism but other issues too. From all the stories I've heard, they sound more like totalitarian riot police out of a movie about a dystopian society
Anybody not smart enough to lie to the cops about their mental state deserved to be detained! Since I was a child, I have always strived to give people the answers they were looking for instead of the truth. That got me in trouble once, when a teacher basically asked me "Who are you racist against?", and I made up an answer to make her happy. She then proceeded to contact my parents about my invented racism!
Everybody is saying "Don't talk to the cops". That is good advice. Their job is to look for an excuse to detain you; the more you talk, the more chance they have of finding an excuse. That being said, I am curious what rights I have to refuse to open the door for a welfare check; my sister sent the cops to my door for a welfare in the middle of the night from the opposite coast and they pounded on the door until I woke up. I still haven't forgiven her for it. Can I just say, "Everybody is fine here. Now stop trespassing on my property!" or do I actually have to put my dog in her kennel and let them search the place instead of taking my word that I am the only person there?
And then she called you from the hospital, rather than her husband? Yeah, that happened.
I had a similar but actually worse story that had me locked in a mental hospital for 8 days but it was because of my boyfriends mother who called the cops and told them I was suicidal but what I actually said was that I would rather slit my wrists than have her disrespect me in my own home by coming in and telling me that if my boyfriend wanted go spend the night with his female friends without me present then I would just have to deal with it because if I didnt she would remove him from my "toxic home" and I was like f*ck you and yout gaslighting deflecting narcissistic bs that Im mot ignorant enough to fall for and your 40 year old son can either act like a real man in a grown up relationahip or get the f*ck out of my house.
you don't believe that someone could be held for psychiatric evaluation after telling the cops that she might harm herself or others? That said, if it is true, there's got to be a lot more to the story than we're getting from this article. The doctors at the psych hospital might have a different opinion than the "friend"
Load More Replies... Where I live, the Police could take her to hospital. However, they would most definitely not put her in handcuffs and placed in a police car whilst she was shouting for her husband. The police would have spent time defusing the situation, and assessing it. IF they felt she needed to be taken to hospital they could do so, but once there, two doctors would need to agree that she needed to be detained. People do not get detained because they 'gave the wrong answer to the police'. Every attempt would have been taken to get the woman to voluntarily agree to remain in hospital. The doctors in the hospital would contact the therapist, and ask for their professional advice. The hospital would also have contacted her next of kin to explain what was going on.
Exactly! I've witnessed the cops here detain someone and ask them about harming themselves. They asked more questions, like if they've thought about how they would do it. The cops did their job, but not well. In Ohio, and I thought most states, the maximum hold is 72 hours. Why this woman is shocked they took her to the hospital when she answered their question that way is beyond my understanding. For many, many people, those holds are lifesaving.
Load More Replies... I once called the police for a wellness check in my country. A friend didn't answer their phone, didn't answer their door and I was sure they were home since we were supposed to meet at that time. What they did: they cane, rang the doorbell, knocked, got a door service to open the door without damaging it, went in and found my friend asleep, totally exhausted. They could wake him up then though. They told him they wouldn't leave until he had someone come over and care for him because he was very sick with high fever, he told me to call his mom who arrived an hour later. They helped us packing a bag for him and accompanied him and his mom to her home, ensuring he was safe and told them to take care and call an ambulance if it got worse. Everyone said thank you and they left. That is how you do a wellness check. What is wrong with America?
Absolutely perfect. That is a wonderful model of how to perform a wellness check.
Load More Replies... I have a feeling we may not be getting the whole story. Regardless of whether her company called the cops to do a wellness check purely out of spite or not (they *could* have had a legitimate concern, it may or may not have been malicious, we don't know either way), if you tell police you're thinking of hurting yourself or someone else, then their job requires them to detain you (she wasn't arrested, she was detained). Not enough info to know if this didn't play out the way it should have or not 🤷🏼♂️
The police come to detain you. If you have anxiety, being away from home and/or comfortable settings will cause huge, crippling panic attacks. If they see this, you can be "detained" by a medical professional for a week at the least as it is seen as "irrational".
Load More Replies... I was given the advice to try very hard to stay calm if the police come to do a "welfare check" due to mental illness (I have several issues). IF you keep calm, they detain you at a hospital for maybe a day. If, however, you freak out, understandably, and more so if you have anxiety and they take you away from your comfort zone - the stay will likely last 5 days no matter what.
The cops were a life saver to a friend of mine who I think was pretty much in the same state as this person. I bet the police had a longer talk with this person than the OP realized. They’re there to protect a person who seems mentally unwell. The handcuffs were wrong unless she seemed to be a danger to others. When a patient confirms self-harming thoughts, the police have to take her to the hospital. They’re not doctors and can’t do a long, informed interview. The fact that the psychiatrist(s) held her for 5 days speaks volumes. Hospital beds are usually scarce so they don’t keep patients unless they really think it’s necessary.
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Load More Replies... Oh yay. Another AITA type of story on BP. And this one is kind of BS. You don't like employer so blame everything on employer. I'm not saying it wasn't a bad work environment. But the "sue the store / sue the cops" bit is just BS. You said she had a mental break down. They called for a welfare check. She told the cops she might harm herself or others. They took her in for an evaluation. And not stated but if she is being held for 5 days it seems very likely she gave the medical staff reason for concern about her well being. Nobody profits from burdening the police or medical system. If they thought she was fine they would have let her walk home. The work environment at that store may truly suck but there is no lawsuit here based on the information given. EDIT: It may vary some by state but in the USA the criteria for an involuntary mental observation is they did or appear likely to harm themselves or others. "Be a danger to" is think how it is worded in my state.
What kind of employment hell you guys have in the US? :-O wellness check? Cops just grabbing you and taking you away? What the...
We haven't reached Russian or Iranian levels of "state-provided care" yet, but we aren't that far off.
Load More Replies... When a police officer or paramedic asks if have thoughts about harming yourself or others, be very careful how you answer. If you answer in the affirmative - even if you're joking or being sarcastic - they are legally obligated in most states to take you to a hospital for psychiatric observation. Also, if you get taken to a hospital under these circumstances, resist the urge to get angry and indignant. Once you tell them you were upset, but now you've calmed down and have no intention of hurting anyone, they're usually obligated to release you.
I'm going to have a heck of a time not getting extremely angry and indignant when they try to bill me for somewhere I have imprisoned involuntarily. F that noise!
Load More Replies... And what if she committed "unalive". FFS people. The cops were right to detain her, her answer was the worst thing she could have said. But, why is Kroger doing a welfare check on a FORMER employee? Totally agree with not talking to cops. Give name and STOP. Ask for a lawyer, repeatedly. And don't fall for that they just get you into a room and kind of stare at you. People's instinct is to try to fill up awkward silences. Resist that with all your might, count the fly droppings on the wall over the cops head or something and keep repeating you want your lawyer.
Sigh. Her behavior was concerning enough that her previous employer asked for a wellness check. At that wellness check, she said she was having thoughts of self-harm and harming others. Then, when she was being evaluated by medical professionals, they determined that she was a grave enough risk for a psych hold. They don’t do that easily or lightly, in fact it can be quite difficult to get admitted, so she must have presented as a threat to herself or others. Sounds like everything worked as it should and she needs a lot of help. I think her employer did the right thing.
I work at an inpatient psychiatric facility. The stories from patients are often far different from the reality. One dude: "I was at home minding my own business when cops broke down my door!" Reality: He had a gun and two of his kids barricaded in the bathroom. I'm sure he told everyone he was at home minding his own business and did nothing wrong.
Even if she was at a point where she needed to go to a mental hospital this is such a s****y way of “helping” people. As it it isn’t already difficult enough to ask for help when struggling. Can’t get help without risking being traumatized but can’t stay silent without risking the problems becoming even worse
That last comment! I learned it the hard way - do not tell ER doctors or cops that you had thoughts of suicide. They WILL lock you up. I had severe depression and that came with passing thoughts of dying, but I really was not intending to do that - all I needed was my does of antidepressants increased. But my doctor was not available, they recommended I go to ER and I got locked up. Worst experience of my life! No real help - just heavier medication. Which I needed, but why did I have to be taken in for that? And the lack of privacy, stupid wake & sleep schedule, gross food etc. etc. were not really helping me. Mental health in the US sucks! Oh, and also the police should not be tasked with wellness checks and mental health checks - they are not trained for that. We need medically trained professionals and mental healthcare advisers to do the checks.
The problem I've seen many times is the police, doctors, welfare workers, psychologists are convinced that their personal twisted sense of reality applies to everyone as if people were made on an assembly line and should all be exactly the same. I feel more often than not, it's the caregivers that need to be put away rather than the individual. This story just goes to support me.
Are we *sure* it was the former employer who called for the wellness check? It sounds like she had just left the therapist's office. Maybe it was the therapist who called. Also ... why did she use her (one?) phone call to call her friend? Why not her husband, a lawyer, or another family member.
One my fellow Indonesian when visiting US as tourist have the same experience. She has mental issue and decide to turn off her phone for sometime. One of her friend then as police to look for her, so they found her and force her to mental hospital for somedays. Then she has to pay around 20K USD for the stay. Crazy
The whole situation is messed up, BUT it's possible she said some crazy s**t when she quit. And if she worked there a long time, it's possible some people were actually concerned. Maybe she caused a scene, she did quit on the job. I mean I worked some jobs that had me at my wits end and when you go to quit them, the adrenaline starts pumping... Even if they are blatantly the most evil people in the world, you will always look like the crazy wack job. Regardless what happened, afterwards was just terrible. I would be so livid. If she wasn't going to f' someone up before she probably is 10x more likely after getting out of that situation. Like wtf.
In the US, if a police officer ever ask you if you've had thoughts of harming yourself and you give any response which is reasonably construed as yes or possibly - they are duty bound to take you in on a 5150 - 72hr min psych hold (doctor's diagnosis can increase it) - and you can't revise your answer after the fact.
5150 is a California statute that allows police to put you on a 72 hour hold for "psychiatric observation". The laws vary from state to state, but I beleive in most states cops are allowed to take you to a mental ward you if they have credible evidence you are a threat to yourself or others.
Load More Replies... It is so strange for me to read that cops are not your friend. This is not how it is supposed to be. The slogan of our police is „the police, your friend and helper“ and for the most part they really are! I am so very sorry for you all.
They never have been your friend or any civilians friend. They are not there to help you. The tools they use, weapons, force, arrest are the tools they will use. So if you don't want shot, beaten, or arrested, do not talk to cops.
Load More Replies... a kind of similar thing happened to me. i made an attempt on my life. cops and ambulance showed up. was taken to hospital. because i'd made an attempt, i had to be committed and evaluated. to ensure this was done, the police had to drive me from the hospital to the mental health facility. policy is that, if you are riding in a police vehicle, you MUST be handcuffed. the guy kept apologizing to me that i had to ride that way. so- DON'T tell ANYONE that you could harm yourself or others unless you're serious. this includes therapists, doctors, teachers DO expect the cops to handcuff you if you're riding in a police vehicle. DO expect to get committed for evaluation if you say you've had thoughts of harming yourself of others.
Kroger the grocery store? That is insane. There are some programs (within police?) that have different responses to wellness checks other than police. Like trained intervention type people instead of police (who have the tendency to escalate every situation).
Kroger bought Fred Meyer and Albertsons. They are now trying to buy Safeway. Soon ALL grocery stores will be Kroger!
Load More Replies... It's absolutely terrifying that the police are viewed as the enemy in the US, not only because of racism but other issues too. From all the stories I've heard, they sound more like totalitarian riot police out of a movie about a dystopian society
Anybody not smart enough to lie to the cops about their mental state deserved to be detained! Since I was a child, I have always strived to give people the answers they were looking for instead of the truth. That got me in trouble once, when a teacher basically asked me "Who are you racist against?", and I made up an answer to make her happy. She then proceeded to contact my parents about my invented racism!
Everybody is saying "Don't talk to the cops". That is good advice. Their job is to look for an excuse to detain you; the more you talk, the more chance they have of finding an excuse. That being said, I am curious what rights I have to refuse to open the door for a welfare check; my sister sent the cops to my door for a welfare in the middle of the night from the opposite coast and they pounded on the door until I woke up. I still haven't forgiven her for it. Can I just say, "Everybody is fine here. Now stop trespassing on my property!" or do I actually have to put my dog in her kennel and let them search the place instead of taking my word that I am the only person there?
And then she called you from the hospital, rather than her husband? Yeah, that happened.
I had a similar but actually worse story that had me locked in a mental hospital for 8 days but it was because of my boyfriends mother who called the cops and told them I was suicidal but what I actually said was that I would rather slit my wrists than have her disrespect me in my own home by coming in and telling me that if my boyfriend wanted go spend the night with his female friends without me present then I would just have to deal with it because if I didnt she would remove him from my "toxic home" and I was like f*ck you and yout gaslighting deflecting narcissistic bs that Im mot ignorant enough to fall for and your 40 year old son can either act like a real man in a grown up relationahip or get the f*ck out of my house.
you don't believe that someone could be held for psychiatric evaluation after telling the cops that she might harm herself or others? That said, if it is true, there's got to be a lot more to the story than we're getting from this article. The doctors at the psych hospital might have a different opinion than the "friend"
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