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TikToker Shares 6 Dark Food Industry Secrets They Probably Don’t Want Us To Know
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TikToker Shares 6 Dark Food Industry Secrets They Probably Don’t Want Us To Know

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It’s no huge secret that many of us should be eating healthier, me included. Though, a healthy diet requires a bit of research and dedication on our part: we can’t go charging in blindly. One thing that can help us on our journey towards better health, however, is realizing that some of the food that we’re eating might not be as healthy as we think.

For instance, the European Union has a far stricter approach towards limiting food additives than the United States. There’s nothing new there. What might surprise you, however, is to learn what some of these additives are. TikTok video creator Kassandra Escandell, aka k4554ndr4, created a video showing the dark side of the food industry.

Scroll down to check out her comments about how the food industry works, as well as for her insights about weird but interesting McDonald’s facts. The part about free-range chickens and ‘freedom’ being open to interpretation in the US was particularly shocking to us.

Bored Panda got in touch with fitness expert Jack Bly to have a chat about the relationship between our diet and our health, and how to get rid of the habit of consuming things that are unhealthy for us. Jack told me that there’s a lot of truth to the statement that “you can’t out-train a bad diet.”

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In a viral video, Kassandra goes into detail about some food industry secrets that you might not have known about. You can watch it in full here

@k4554ndr4 americans: why are we all sick & diseased?? food industry: 🤷🏻‍♀️🙊👩🏽‍🦯🤪 #foodindustrysecrets #foodindustrylife #tiktokpartner #learnontiktok ♬ [Live Recording] Baroque style classical Violin song – arachang

Jack told Bored Panda: “The only people I’ve seen ‘out-train a poor diet’ are athletes who are moving their body a ton. For everyone else, diet needs to be a priority if you want to see real changes in your body. You eat 500 calories in a minute. But it would take an intense hour of exercise to burn those same 500 calories.” Scroll down for his insights on giving up bad habits and what food group we should focus on.

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Fitness expert Jack told Bored Panda that his favorite approach to limiting our consumption of fast food, sugar, alcohol, and other unhealthy things is to “optimize our environment.” This, however, extends to more than just our physical environment: we need to be aware of our social circle, too.

“If alcohol is a problem, don’t keep any in the house. Same goes for any other junk food,” he explained. “The other part of the environment is the people around you. Make sure they know your goals so they hold you accountable instead of being you down.”

According to Jack, he has one core approach when choosing what he eats. “My meals vary but one principle always remains constant. And that is every single meal I sit down to eat must have a good source of protein in it,” he said.

Kassandra has over 632k followers on TikTok and she has amassed a whopping 21.8 million likes across all of her videos on the platform. Her TikToks are as entertaining as they are informative, so it’s no wonder that people like them.

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Meanwhile, here’s Kassandra’s video about interesting and weird McDonald’s facts, for dessert

@k4554ndr4 🍟🥤🍔 #mcdonaldslife #learnontiktok #tiktokpartner #mcdonaldsfacts ♬ Chaotic classical music(930681) – nizimo

The video creator touches upon a very important topic—our health and how the food that we eat relates to it. Some time ago, I had an in-depth conversation about diet and fitness with certified personal trainer Paulius Lipskis from Lithuania, who is the founder of the ‘Mes Geresni’ (‘We’re Better’) project on Facebook that promotes healthy living.

He told Bored Panda that our weight is an important factor when considering our overall health, however, it’s not the only thing we should keep in mind.

According to personal trainer Paulius, if we aim to lead a healthy lifestyle, our primary aim should be to overcome our harmful diets and to create positive habits related to the types of movement that we enjoy. We should also keep in mind that if we’re forcing ourselves to do what we’re not comfortable with, it might backfire.

“Our bodies can deal with everything by themselves under the right conditions. However, if you want a point of reference, you can get a body composition analysis done which is a cheap option (though it can have some issues with accuracy),” he suggested.

“I can tell you from my professional experience that one of the most common problems is having an ‘all-or-nothing’ mindset. These people tend to either exercise a lot without taking any breaks or they don’t exercise at all,” he explained to Bored Panda.

“This kind of mindset paves the way to letting yourself down and burning out because we think, ‘What do you mean I couldn’t do it?! Why could others? I obviously need to try harder.’ Once you get rid of this point of view, your confidence in your abilities will slowly but surely grow, you’ll feel less stress, and that will automatically lead to you loving your own body more,” the personal trainer said.

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Susie Elle
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is like saying "There's alcohol in desinfective agents but also in beer so we're drinking fluids that kill things" or "there's water in all of our food but urine is 90% water so there's pee in our food". Guilt by association. Cellulose is the main component of the cell wall of any plant cell. Including wood, but that doesn't mean there's actual wood chips in our food. It's a biopolymer and a fiber. Ammonia was used as a baking powder in the past, but because of the scent it's waned in popularity. It's considered safe for consumption, as long as it's food-grade ammonia, and is added to foods as it's ability to control pH makes it an antimicrobial agent. Also, making false health claims is illegal in lots of countries, you can't "pay one scientist" because a scientist is not the one to decide which claims go on the package. In Europe, there are very strict regulations for when chickens are 'free range'.

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Monday
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She also seems to have failed to mention that our bodies naturally produce ammonia when we digest protein....it's just another case of someone using the scary chemical names to get attention.

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Two_rolling_black_eyes
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is a poorly informed person making false claims. This is like the people saying we are being poisoned by dihydrogen oxide (H20 = water). Every single claim she posted varies from 50-100% wrong.

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Marcellus II
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would anyhow hesitate to take 'facts' at face value from someone looking like Duckman's better-looking sister. Because if you're argueing these products are unnatural, try to be at least somewhat natural too. On the other hand, the 'Free range chickens' is an issue, even in EU --- the rules are too lenient there.

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Wouter
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Bold claims, I'd like to see some sources. A lot is wrong in the food industry, in the US probably even more so, but at least the McDonalds 'pink slime' (use of ammonia washed meats) has ended almost a decade ago. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_slime

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Daniel Marsh
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And let's not forget either, that ABC lost hundreds of millions of dollars over the false claims. For starters: if you think "washed" means "bathed" or "dunked," you're wrong. The meats were exposed to a room with gaseous ammonia. Do you know why you pee? Because your muscles ("meat") produce ammonia constantly, which slowly diffuses into your blood, gets concentrated by your kidneys and expelled. So, it's not like ammonia isn't in the meat already.

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Robert T
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What is shocking is the complete lack of journalistic integrity. This is the sort of shite that anti-vaxxers thrive on. Do the world a favour BP, and stop reproducing this dross.

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Klaatu Verrata (Cough)
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Quite right. And antivaxxers believe in neither journalism nor integrity, so.... 😣

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John Smith
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I saw tiktok and wonder what rubbish was being spread this time. I am pretty sure in the future TikTok is going to be added to the thesaurus as a synonym of scam.

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Rijkærd
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wecome to the TikTok Institute of Influencers in Scientific Claims..theres a whole lot of misinformation from these people thats misleading and shows their lack of understanding. Dont quit school and join social media to 'reveal ' the s**t you couldn't grasp in school that made you quit.

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Klaatu Verrata (Cough)
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Exactly...which is why I only watch an occasional Bighead video and eat up the dog that walks like a human. BC my dogs are WAY too lazy for that kind of effort.

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Monday
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You know what else has ammonia in it? Our bodies. Our human bodies produce ammonia during the digestion of protein, after which our very helpful livers convert it into urea. There's nothing to learn from this post....

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Steve Barnett
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

(UK) It's annoying to find out that wasabi paste only contains 5% wasabi powder. The rest is basically horseradish.

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EEF🤓
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yup. Globally it's mostly horseradish with green dye. As wasabi is more expensive. But wasabi is a type of horseradish anyway so meh

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Bacony Cakes
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No the f*ck that isn't. That's not considered free range chicken. free-range /ˌfriːˈreɪndʒ/ adjective (of livestock, especially poultry) kept in natural conditions, with freedom of movement. "a free-range, corn-fed chicken" (of eggs) produced by free-range poultry.

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Martha Meyer
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No, that's actually not true. There is a tiny "door" somewhere in that hall, thorugh which the chickens could in theory go outside, which allows the producers to call this free range. The chickens don't go outside though because they don't like open spaces without shelter and the outdoor spaces are all open without shelter.

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Nupraptor
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So, so eyeroll-worthy. "Ammonia is used in furniture cleaners!!" and "Orange juice is flavored by the same companies who make perfume!!" All of it reeks of the same "Water contains di-hydrogen monoxide!!" nonsense.

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Daniel Marsh
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Anyone else find it ironic that woman is complaining about "fake" food, looking at her face? She doesn't even resemble a human being anymore.

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Random Panda
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Bored Panda is really scraping the bottom of the barrel here. What a bunch of buIIshit.

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Richard Ross
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why do TikTok posts have to have a mugshot in every pic on here 🤔

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Daniel Marsh
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Cellulose is added for fiber, not to replace oil... Calvin Klein does not make orange juice flavors; they are made from (wait for it...) ORANGE JUICE!!!... Careful Bored Panda, ABC lost hundreds of millions of dollars for its lies about "pink slime"...

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Klaatu Verrata (Cough)
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wait...what happened to pink slime??? Don't you dare tell me it's not actually PINK....

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Rissie
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

People have a hard time understanding many ingredients are derived from things we wouldn't eat in it's previous shape or form. Whether it be ground up plant grains to provide us with energy and protein or ground up wood to provide us with fibers to keep the gut going.

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ElenaK
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Guys I just came here to check her unrealistically edited face. The more you look at it... Damn those filters.

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Kristina Funkycrew
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's like when everyone was saying Subway uses yoga mat material in their bread. This is pure disinformation & fear mongering

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Klaatu Verrata (Cough)
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Of course Subway wouldn't put yoga mats in their bread. They don't even put tuna in their tunafish. 😆

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Aliquid
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Go to the list of BP posts, find this one, and give it a thumbs down... it needs to disappear. Currently at -17

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Mazer
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sorry, unless there are three supporting sources, I’m taking all of this with a grain of iodized salt.

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Bill
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My biggest gripe is with CO2 production in food. When the UK hosted the World Cup they almost ran out of beer and soda because fertilizer plants shut down for maintenence. The carbon dioxide in the food supply comes from chicken and cow manure

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Kori Chamberlain
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wait. Like they capture the CO2 from farms to carbonize the drinks? Because thats the only way I could imagine those two points being connected.

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Fluffy Griffin
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'd recommend checking into "Food Science Babe", who is great at explaining and debunking these viral tiktok randos.

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syrja
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Thank god someone warned me about cellulose, I'm giving up all vegetables starting today! It might be tough but it's worth it if it means I don't *checks notes*...go blind and have to use a white cane? Take that, food industry!

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Klaatu Verrata (Cough)
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Uh oh. Still gonna get cellulose byproduct in your plant-fed meat and eggs tho lol. People honestly should worry a lot more about ingesting non-organic soy products. After all, genetically altered soy was LITERALLY invented in order to be able to withstand multiple daily drenches of carcinogenic Round Up. 😒

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Kori Chamberlain
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Did someone just take slides from their own youtube video and post it on BP?

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Shine Caramia
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The orange juice thing is true, kind of. The flavor packets are, in fact, made of chemicals-- like every other thing that is not vacuum-- that are taken from the oranges themselves.

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Klaatu Verrata (Cough)
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I've been a huge critic of both the FDA & American food manufacturing standards for many years, but these kinds of social media bait mongers do more harm than good. As a thinking, logical, discerning human, anytime you hear salacious or shocking claims about ANYTHING, you must always ask yourself, "What is this person trying to gain putting this stuff out there?" Almost always, there is a huge opportunity for profit: relevancy, money, followers, endorsements, etc. The AGENDA is the KEY. So... while there is a degree of truth to THIS person's claims, a lot of it is exaggerated and plenty are outright lies. The sad thing is, the general public in America has become so ignorant of science that ANYTHING sounds believable to them if it's spun the right way: with a lot of fervor and insistance and self-assurance. NEVER FORGET: the people who claim to know everything that no one else knows usually actually know NOTHING--other than how to lie in a convincing manner and con people.

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Janet C
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And people wonder why I got pancreatitis in the US and why I got well in Spain, where all this cr@p is illegal. I wrote about it. (This is free to read -- I'm not trying to make money here, just share stories..) https://medium.com/@JanetCh/spain-made-me-well-a0a1d822ac09

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mm65851
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

McDonalds stopped with the ammonia over 10 years ago..

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Margarita Bartasunaite
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Actually, for the orange juice, the “chemicals” they add back in are the same chemicals the oranges naturally produce to give off their scent and flavor. Just saying. As for the ammonia, chemicals react differently when combined with other chemicals. 2 harmless chemicals together can make some pretty harmful ones. And 2 harmful chemicals can make something very harmless. So until this girl shows me her PhD in chemistry, I’m not trusting what she says. As for the cellulose, that is just a main component in plant cell walls. Almost all fruits and vegetables have cellulose. And no, we cannot digest cellulose, so it is a fiber food for us. They actually help in healthy digestion by helping food pass.

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buttonpusher
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If you saw how some of the Subway stuff was made you'd never eat there again.

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Nicola Harper
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is funny. Just wondering why they think this is new information. My mom works for a paper mill and they produce some of the cellulose that’s used as fillers. Every part of a tree gets used even the byproducts. But I think eating that wouldn’t kill us because it is actually from a plant. And can we stop listening to the FDA about everything. They approve whatever they want to approve. Just eat in moderation and what’s best for your body. People still fascinate me at times.

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Douglas Daniels
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wood chips are in our food in the form of cellulose is similar to saying ribeye steaks are in our thighs in the form of cellulite. If you don't know what you're talking about, you should stop spreading stupidity.

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Douglas Daniels
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wood chips contain cellulose. Cellulose does not contain wood chips. Saying that wood chips are in food products in the form of cellulose is like saying that ribeye steaks are in you thighs in the form of cellulite.

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Klaatu Verrata (Cough)
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

However, cellulose IS the basis of many fiber supplements, but I note she failed to mention THAT....

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B S
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

that's what cellulose IS you muppet... wood is made of cellulose! ALL plants are structurally made of cellulose... jesus christ. evidently she has nothing against silicon or botox but gotta draw the line somewhere eh?

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J P
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I hope she linked to the Cracked article that she stole from.

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EEF🤓
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I remember seeing the same product sold in the states and Europe. The american product had way more additives. No idea why, as it was the same basic product.

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Chris Mbuff
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yet failed to mention whats she is injecting into her lips!

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Bilja M
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That is why I like to buy from small manufacturers. It costs a bit more but you get quality as these people care that you buy from them again.

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Essex Eagle
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

YouTube expert alert.... She is spouting BS or i suspect a vegan so it would be Plantshit

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Karl Baxter
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I’m glad I live in the UK. Mind you, post-Brexit our incompetent government is trying to slacken the strict EU food and animal welfare standards so the US can export this crap to us. Chlorinated chicken anyone?

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Alexis Draskinis
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Not sure about a lot of these & i worked in various food services over the years. Im the 1st to say we need more regulation in the US BUT im taking these with a small grain of salt

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The Scout
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The first claim is partly correct, although in most countries the problem is limited to very few food items (very popular in coffee pads, for example). Cellulose as a filler is quite rare, as other ingredients like maltodextrine are cheaper.. Number two with the orange juice is also correct. The pink slime/ammonia myth has been debunked multiple times. It probably partly stems from the pratice of packaging meat under a nitrogen (not ammonia) atmosphere to prolong its shelf life (which is unproblematic, as nitrogen makes up over 70% of the air anyway). Outside the USA the use of corn syrup in food items is heavily regulated and thus not very popular, while the USA seem to add HFCS to literally everything for some reason. Free range chicken also is much more regulated as a category in europe. In Germany for example, chickens need to have room of guaranteed 4 m² per chicken to be allowed to be sold as free range. Also, unsubstanciated health claims are forbidden in most of the EU.

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Donkey boi
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wow, cherry picking much? She's doing the same thing as anti-vax head cases when they say 'It's got mercury!' She's talking about the USA, you know the country of law suits, the country that won't even allow you to have kinder eggs! It took me literally 6 seconds to google FDA regulation on Free range chickens and it said 'chickens must have a defined amount of space (no more than 13 birds a square metre), be 56 days old before they are slaughtered and have continuous daytime access to open-air runs, with vegetation, for at least half their lifetime' and that's just the briefing.

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Susie Elle
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

To be fair, 13 birds per square meter can hardly be considered as 'free range' :')

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Vicky Zar
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

McDonalds and their meat: they lost a case against Jamie Oliver and refrain from using ammonia now.

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Gogamash
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I guess, most of that crap is an US problem only. I know that companies in Germany also try everything to make more profit but I am very sure there are at least better regulations in Germany

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Jill
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is why the EU has such strict definitions of products. So much so that it get ridiculous.

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Martha Meyer
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

At least some of these are not legal in the European Union. The ammonia chicken for example. We do get the wood chips though, I think.

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Becky Samuel
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There are also *very* clear regulations on what can be described as 'free-range' chicken in the EU and UK.

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Gaby Almodovar
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It must suck to live in the USA, and being able to make your groceries just in Walmart.

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Susie Elle
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is like saying "There's alcohol in desinfective agents but also in beer so we're drinking fluids that kill things" or "there's water in all of our food but urine is 90% water so there's pee in our food". Guilt by association. Cellulose is the main component of the cell wall of any plant cell. Including wood, but that doesn't mean there's actual wood chips in our food. It's a biopolymer and a fiber. Ammonia was used as a baking powder in the past, but because of the scent it's waned in popularity. It's considered safe for consumption, as long as it's food-grade ammonia, and is added to foods as it's ability to control pH makes it an antimicrobial agent. Also, making false health claims is illegal in lots of countries, you can't "pay one scientist" because a scientist is not the one to decide which claims go on the package. In Europe, there are very strict regulations for when chickens are 'free range'.

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Monday
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She also seems to have failed to mention that our bodies naturally produce ammonia when we digest protein....it's just another case of someone using the scary chemical names to get attention.

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Two_rolling_black_eyes
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is a poorly informed person making false claims. This is like the people saying we are being poisoned by dihydrogen oxide (H20 = water). Every single claim she posted varies from 50-100% wrong.

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Marcellus II
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would anyhow hesitate to take 'facts' at face value from someone looking like Duckman's better-looking sister. Because if you're argueing these products are unnatural, try to be at least somewhat natural too. On the other hand, the 'Free range chickens' is an issue, even in EU --- the rules are too lenient there.

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Wouter
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Bold claims, I'd like to see some sources. A lot is wrong in the food industry, in the US probably even more so, but at least the McDonalds 'pink slime' (use of ammonia washed meats) has ended almost a decade ago. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_slime

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Daniel Marsh
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And let's not forget either, that ABC lost hundreds of millions of dollars over the false claims. For starters: if you think "washed" means "bathed" or "dunked," you're wrong. The meats were exposed to a room with gaseous ammonia. Do you know why you pee? Because your muscles ("meat") produce ammonia constantly, which slowly diffuses into your blood, gets concentrated by your kidneys and expelled. So, it's not like ammonia isn't in the meat already.

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Robert T
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What is shocking is the complete lack of journalistic integrity. This is the sort of shite that anti-vaxxers thrive on. Do the world a favour BP, and stop reproducing this dross.

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Klaatu Verrata (Cough)
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Quite right. And antivaxxers believe in neither journalism nor integrity, so.... 😣

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John Smith
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I saw tiktok and wonder what rubbish was being spread this time. I am pretty sure in the future TikTok is going to be added to the thesaurus as a synonym of scam.

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Rijkærd
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wecome to the TikTok Institute of Influencers in Scientific Claims..theres a whole lot of misinformation from these people thats misleading and shows their lack of understanding. Dont quit school and join social media to 'reveal ' the s**t you couldn't grasp in school that made you quit.

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Klaatu Verrata (Cough)
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Exactly...which is why I only watch an occasional Bighead video and eat up the dog that walks like a human. BC my dogs are WAY too lazy for that kind of effort.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You know what else has ammonia in it? Our bodies. Our human bodies produce ammonia during the digestion of protein, after which our very helpful livers convert it into urea. There's nothing to learn from this post....

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Steve Barnett
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

(UK) It's annoying to find out that wasabi paste only contains 5% wasabi powder. The rest is basically horseradish.

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EEF🤓
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yup. Globally it's mostly horseradish with green dye. As wasabi is more expensive. But wasabi is a type of horseradish anyway so meh

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Bacony Cakes
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No the f*ck that isn't. That's not considered free range chicken. free-range /ˌfriːˈreɪndʒ/ adjective (of livestock, especially poultry) kept in natural conditions, with freedom of movement. "a free-range, corn-fed chicken" (of eggs) produced by free-range poultry.

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Martha Meyer
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No, that's actually not true. There is a tiny "door" somewhere in that hall, thorugh which the chickens could in theory go outside, which allows the producers to call this free range. The chickens don't go outside though because they don't like open spaces without shelter and the outdoor spaces are all open without shelter.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So, so eyeroll-worthy. "Ammonia is used in furniture cleaners!!" and "Orange juice is flavored by the same companies who make perfume!!" All of it reeks of the same "Water contains di-hydrogen monoxide!!" nonsense.

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Daniel Marsh
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Anyone else find it ironic that woman is complaining about "fake" food, looking at her face? She doesn't even resemble a human being anymore.

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Random Panda
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Bored Panda is really scraping the bottom of the barrel here. What a bunch of buIIshit.

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Richard Ross
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why do TikTok posts have to have a mugshot in every pic on here 🤔

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Daniel Marsh
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Cellulose is added for fiber, not to replace oil... Calvin Klein does not make orange juice flavors; they are made from (wait for it...) ORANGE JUICE!!!... Careful Bored Panda, ABC lost hundreds of millions of dollars for its lies about "pink slime"...

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Klaatu Verrata (Cough)
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wait...what happened to pink slime??? Don't you dare tell me it's not actually PINK....

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Rissie
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

People have a hard time understanding many ingredients are derived from things we wouldn't eat in it's previous shape or form. Whether it be ground up plant grains to provide us with energy and protein or ground up wood to provide us with fibers to keep the gut going.

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ElenaK
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Guys I just came here to check her unrealistically edited face. The more you look at it... Damn those filters.

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Kristina Funkycrew
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's like when everyone was saying Subway uses yoga mat material in their bread. This is pure disinformation & fear mongering

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Klaatu Verrata (Cough)
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Of course Subway wouldn't put yoga mats in their bread. They don't even put tuna in their tunafish. 😆

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Aliquid
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Go to the list of BP posts, find this one, and give it a thumbs down... it needs to disappear. Currently at -17

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Mazer
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sorry, unless there are three supporting sources, I’m taking all of this with a grain of iodized salt.

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Bill
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My biggest gripe is with CO2 production in food. When the UK hosted the World Cup they almost ran out of beer and soda because fertilizer plants shut down for maintenence. The carbon dioxide in the food supply comes from chicken and cow manure

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Kori Chamberlain
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wait. Like they capture the CO2 from farms to carbonize the drinks? Because thats the only way I could imagine those two points being connected.

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Fluffy Griffin
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'd recommend checking into "Food Science Babe", who is great at explaining and debunking these viral tiktok randos.

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syrja
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Thank god someone warned me about cellulose, I'm giving up all vegetables starting today! It might be tough but it's worth it if it means I don't *checks notes*...go blind and have to use a white cane? Take that, food industry!

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Klaatu Verrata (Cough)
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Uh oh. Still gonna get cellulose byproduct in your plant-fed meat and eggs tho lol. People honestly should worry a lot more about ingesting non-organic soy products. After all, genetically altered soy was LITERALLY invented in order to be able to withstand multiple daily drenches of carcinogenic Round Up. 😒

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Kori Chamberlain
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Did someone just take slides from their own youtube video and post it on BP?

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Shine Caramia
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The orange juice thing is true, kind of. The flavor packets are, in fact, made of chemicals-- like every other thing that is not vacuum-- that are taken from the oranges themselves.

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Klaatu Verrata (Cough)
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I've been a huge critic of both the FDA & American food manufacturing standards for many years, but these kinds of social media bait mongers do more harm than good. As a thinking, logical, discerning human, anytime you hear salacious or shocking claims about ANYTHING, you must always ask yourself, "What is this person trying to gain putting this stuff out there?" Almost always, there is a huge opportunity for profit: relevancy, money, followers, endorsements, etc. The AGENDA is the KEY. So... while there is a degree of truth to THIS person's claims, a lot of it is exaggerated and plenty are outright lies. The sad thing is, the general public in America has become so ignorant of science that ANYTHING sounds believable to them if it's spun the right way: with a lot of fervor and insistance and self-assurance. NEVER FORGET: the people who claim to know everything that no one else knows usually actually know NOTHING--other than how to lie in a convincing manner and con people.

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Janet C
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And people wonder why I got pancreatitis in the US and why I got well in Spain, where all this cr@p is illegal. I wrote about it. (This is free to read -- I'm not trying to make money here, just share stories..) https://medium.com/@JanetCh/spain-made-me-well-a0a1d822ac09

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mm65851
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

McDonalds stopped with the ammonia over 10 years ago..

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Margarita Bartasunaite
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Actually, for the orange juice, the “chemicals” they add back in are the same chemicals the oranges naturally produce to give off their scent and flavor. Just saying. As for the ammonia, chemicals react differently when combined with other chemicals. 2 harmless chemicals together can make some pretty harmful ones. And 2 harmful chemicals can make something very harmless. So until this girl shows me her PhD in chemistry, I’m not trusting what she says. As for the cellulose, that is just a main component in plant cell walls. Almost all fruits and vegetables have cellulose. And no, we cannot digest cellulose, so it is a fiber food for us. They actually help in healthy digestion by helping food pass.

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buttonpusher
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If you saw how some of the Subway stuff was made you'd never eat there again.

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Nicola Harper
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is funny. Just wondering why they think this is new information. My mom works for a paper mill and they produce some of the cellulose that’s used as fillers. Every part of a tree gets used even the byproducts. But I think eating that wouldn’t kill us because it is actually from a plant. And can we stop listening to the FDA about everything. They approve whatever they want to approve. Just eat in moderation and what’s best for your body. People still fascinate me at times.

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Douglas Daniels
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wood chips are in our food in the form of cellulose is similar to saying ribeye steaks are in our thighs in the form of cellulite. If you don't know what you're talking about, you should stop spreading stupidity.

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Douglas Daniels
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wood chips contain cellulose. Cellulose does not contain wood chips. Saying that wood chips are in food products in the form of cellulose is like saying that ribeye steaks are in you thighs in the form of cellulite.

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Klaatu Verrata (Cough)
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

However, cellulose IS the basis of many fiber supplements, but I note she failed to mention THAT....

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B S
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

that's what cellulose IS you muppet... wood is made of cellulose! ALL plants are structurally made of cellulose... jesus christ. evidently she has nothing against silicon or botox but gotta draw the line somewhere eh?

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J P
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I hope she linked to the Cracked article that she stole from.

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EEF🤓
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I remember seeing the same product sold in the states and Europe. The american product had way more additives. No idea why, as it was the same basic product.

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Chris Mbuff
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yet failed to mention whats she is injecting into her lips!

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Bilja M
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That is why I like to buy from small manufacturers. It costs a bit more but you get quality as these people care that you buy from them again.

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Essex Eagle
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

YouTube expert alert.... She is spouting BS or i suspect a vegan so it would be Plantshit

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Karl Baxter
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I’m glad I live in the UK. Mind you, post-Brexit our incompetent government is trying to slacken the strict EU food and animal welfare standards so the US can export this crap to us. Chlorinated chicken anyone?

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Alexis Draskinis
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Not sure about a lot of these & i worked in various food services over the years. Im the 1st to say we need more regulation in the US BUT im taking these with a small grain of salt

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The Scout
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The first claim is partly correct, although in most countries the problem is limited to very few food items (very popular in coffee pads, for example). Cellulose as a filler is quite rare, as other ingredients like maltodextrine are cheaper.. Number two with the orange juice is also correct. The pink slime/ammonia myth has been debunked multiple times. It probably partly stems from the pratice of packaging meat under a nitrogen (not ammonia) atmosphere to prolong its shelf life (which is unproblematic, as nitrogen makes up over 70% of the air anyway). Outside the USA the use of corn syrup in food items is heavily regulated and thus not very popular, while the USA seem to add HFCS to literally everything for some reason. Free range chicken also is much more regulated as a category in europe. In Germany for example, chickens need to have room of guaranteed 4 m² per chicken to be allowed to be sold as free range. Also, unsubstanciated health claims are forbidden in most of the EU.

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Donkey boi
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wow, cherry picking much? She's doing the same thing as anti-vax head cases when they say 'It's got mercury!' She's talking about the USA, you know the country of law suits, the country that won't even allow you to have kinder eggs! It took me literally 6 seconds to google FDA regulation on Free range chickens and it said 'chickens must have a defined amount of space (no more than 13 birds a square metre), be 56 days old before they are slaughtered and have continuous daytime access to open-air runs, with vegetation, for at least half their lifetime' and that's just the briefing.

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Susie Elle
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

To be fair, 13 birds per square meter can hardly be considered as 'free range' :')

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Vicky Zar
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

McDonalds and their meat: they lost a case against Jamie Oliver and refrain from using ammonia now.

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Gogamash
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I guess, most of that crap is an US problem only. I know that companies in Germany also try everything to make more profit but I am very sure there are at least better regulations in Germany

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Jill
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is why the EU has such strict definitions of products. So much so that it get ridiculous.

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Martha Meyer
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

At least some of these are not legal in the European Union. The ammonia chicken for example. We do get the wood chips though, I think.

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Becky Samuel
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There are also *very* clear regulations on what can be described as 'free-range' chicken in the EU and UK.

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Gaby Almodovar
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It must suck to live in the USA, and being able to make your groceries just in Walmart.

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