People Are Explaining Why “Female Only” Parking Spaces Exist After This Guy Points Out It’s Not Equal
As society progresses people are challenged to take a look at themselves and their behavior. Men are being told that their time is up and that once accepted norms will no longer be accepted. But this quest for gender equality is more than just personal actions and is beginning to include laws, policies and yes even workplace changes. Recently, one Reddit user was faced with one of these developments at his company and something didn’t feel right about it so he did the only logical thing he could think of – ask the internet.
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User AspiringProducer19 describes himself as an “approx 22.5 year old man” who had recently received a great job as a corporate level administrator. Two months into his job, the employee stated he had no complaints until one day he came across a sign in the parking lot that read “female employee parking space only!” The user then prefaced his question by stating: “let me clarify I am not “Irate” or “fuming” about it, but I dont really buy into the whole chivalry, white knighting culture that the men of previous generations upheld fedora intensifies.”
The post was published in the Reddit group r/AmItheAssshole, “A catharsis for the frustrated moral philosopher in all of us, and a place to finally find out if you were wrong in an argument that’s been bothering you.”
“So theres not too much to say, I guess I’m more curious in others opinions on this. I am an approx 22.5 year old man, I recently snagged a really really good job. I work as a corporate level administrator in the trucking industry. It’s been a pretty sweet gig so far and have no complaints as of yet (2 months in). I would also like to preface the following with saying that I work with a very diverse staff of coworkers who are all as professional as they can be, rarely is it that someone cant pull their own weight.
About a week ago I was walking through the parking lot to my car after the end of the day, and I was looking at the sunset through the chain link fence. As my eyes darted around i happened to notice a pink metal plate bolted onto the fence, I thought to myself “woah, what’s that and how did i not notice it before?” So i started reading it and I was immediately greeted with slight disappointment. Basically, it read as follows “FEMALE EMPLOYEE PARKING SPACE ONLY!” with a large symbol in the middle of the sign which is also seen on women’s public bathrooms.
Now, let me clarify I am not “Irate” or “fuming” about it, but I dont really buy into the whole chivalry, white knighting culture that the men of previous generations upheld fedora intensifies. I even asked my fiance when I got home, just to get a female insight on it. She said she thought it was stupid. I guess I’m just coming from the territory of you can show that your a diverse company dedicated to equality, without making tedious or unimportant decisions like special parking. Just my two cents on it though.”
People in the comments had questions for the poster before answering
But for others, these signs were not a new phenomenon to them and were seen as useful
Female only spaces are an initiative that has spanned from the U.S to Europe to China and caused much debate. While some believe they are unnecessary and sexist, others see it as a way to protect women from potentially dangerous situations. While the U.S Department of Justice states that there is nothing inherently dangerous about parking lots, isolation is a key factor to the possibility of sexual assault. They also add that: “Approximately two-thirds of rapes/sexual assaults occurred at night — 6 p.m. to 6 a.m,” which is around the time many employees are leaving work.
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As a woman I am very happy with these precautions. It really is about safety, and has nothing to do with equality or feminism.
It is very logical to try to protect your employees, specially if there had complaints about the parking. Yes, ideally we should all have equal rules and this should not be necessary, I agree with the people saying that. But ideally women should not have a good reason to be afraid while walking at night. It seems a reasonable measure until our society changes in that aspect.
I can't say I have a particularly strong opinion on this because I've never seen it before, but I do want to point out how polite pretty much everyone was (I didn't read all the comments so sorry if I'm wrong). You don't see that a lot in these types of arguments and I think it makes their point of veiws' a lot more valid.
Could have just called it female safety parking and no one would have second guessed it. Well.. maybe just unfuckable morons.
Sometimes you have to treat someone differently so that they have an equal chance of something. Children using wheelchairs use lifts rather than stairs to get on a bus and go to school. Someone short may need a stepping stool to reach a cabinet, so that the tall people in the kitchen aren’t the only ones who can get a snack. If it’s a safety precaution, to help protect women so they are not as likely to be raped, alrighty. I can see both pros and cons to this. I see a lot of discourse in the comments about men being more likely to be mugged, which is horrible, but rape (what I feel is the main reason behind the sign) and muggings are not the same thing. Both are violent acts, but not entirely the same. Perhaps we should make all areas more brightly lit to help prevent muggings as well. Often, equality means being seen as worth as much as another. Not being able to just deck a woman in the face, or kick a man in the balls, but realizing that both are just as bad, regardless of gender.
If anyone wishes to discuss, try to keep a civil attitude. It’s difficult to make a point seem valid if the one presenting it is howling like a rabid animal. I try to look at both sides, and I’ll take things into consideration if that thing isn’t blaring and insulting.
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No Matter what the 3rd-wav'ers say, women are definitely the more vulnerable sex. Our country is the rape capital of the world and women are targeted. I would 10,000% support these signs for all the right reasons. Yes, men DO NOT THINK LIKE WOMEN in the "saftey" sense as noted in the comments above.
Possible dumb queston alert but what is a 'corporate level administrator'? I know what an administrator is. I know what corporates are. I'm just not sure what exactly this person is trying to say with this.
An administrator is basically an organizer for an office. Depending on the company, an administrator may do secretarial work in addition to organizing, orchestrating and planning. I would imagine that a "corporate level administrator" would be an administrator who holds a position higher up in the company. At the corporate level they may be responsible for organizing affairs inside and outside the company. I've done those duties, but I didn't have that title.
Load More Replies... Close to the exit, extra lighting, video surveillance. Isn't it sad we need to do this instead of just not raping people? And then this fucktard pretends to not understand the reasoning?
Men aren't taught to think about safety at every turn. I truly believe he didn't realize. Besides, I read the original thread and as soon as people pointed it out he thanked them for pointing it out and agreed that that was probably the reason.
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If men don't like this, then maybe they should stop assaulting women like the cowards they are? Fair?
I understand why the company would do this, but on the otherhand, how low did we go that women need this kind of protection. The most obvious solution is to just stop harassing/mugging people (women and men)! I am tired to have to live with the fact that I always have to keep my guard up wherever I go, especially at night. So people: please raise your children as respectful, gentle and loving souls.
I’m in Ohio and in the winter it’s dark by 5pm and you would be surprised how many men don’t offer to walk to your car, or would be on their cell and walk past you even though it was ‘company policy’ to do so. It was a bad neighborhood and parking was across a busy 4 lane rod. The parking was not very well lit. It was terrifying, especially when there’s homeless people who were everywhere. Glad I got out of there. Alive.
Fine. To make it equal, men should be sexually assaulted the same amount as women, then men can get "men only" parking. Sound equal enough for you dude?
Men are at a much higher risk (2x-3x) to experience violence on the open street. Sounds equal enough for you dude?
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Sounds like a lawsuit waiting to happen. Discrimination against males...
Can we get mens reserved parking spots way in the back in the darker remote areas of the parking lot? Just so we don't feel left out.
Aw, that's a bit much - what about parking in a badly lit gang controlled estate? 😜
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Being cynic, I thought at first that men think that women can't park and that they would protect their cars. That was before I read the comments.
Shocking how normalised sexist violence is in society. Can you imagine special parking spaces to prevent attacks on any other targetted group (such as an ethnic minority)? Would society tolerate a level of violence against a group of people that was so bad this was necessary? Or would they treat it like the national emergency it is?
I don't see it as normalization, but rather an added security measure. Assaults will never go away, but we can at least try to minimize the risk.
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Didn't read the whole thing. Was there an official company answer?
Maybe the men were tired of all the door dings and getting backed into so they moved the women over there.
That last comment was so off. It doesn't make him mature to ask the internet. It would have made him mature if he actually asked someone at his place of employment why it was there instead of strangers on the internet. He should put on his big boy pants and ask someone there who actually knows.
Men and Women should be treated equally according to feminists and politically correct cucks, apart from when they decide women deserve special treatment because we certainly aren't even close to equal in so, so many ways. Sigh...
estimated means estimated. As in 90% of women do not report sexual assaults
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Okay, maybe you're pretty young but you don't have to grow up to be a prat. If you want to get along with the other 50% of the population try being open minded. How do you really think it might feel to be the ones preyed on by society? Ignore those quoting stats about men being most likely to get injured - that's because of men fighting men in brawls or gang related violence. It skews the figures. This is about women being targeted by sick men who just want to hurt them, to sexually assault them. Do you not want your mother to be assaulted in a dark car park? Do you have a sister? You might in the future have a daughter. Would you not want her to be safer? To make society equal - in this instance equally safe from attack in a car park - sometimes you have to take greater measures for part of that society. Why there are problems with labelling on public loos I have no idea and that's irrelevant to THIS discussion.
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What job 'requires' heels? That is outrageous and surely not enforceable. There are jobs which genuinely require uncomfortable clothing, such as safety wear. Women accepting heels being forced on them when there is no reasonable reason are hardly doing themselves any favours.
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Perhaps it's because no-one wanted to be that obvious and that boring.
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It's purely to do with thinking that it is safer for women if they are nearer the exit or shops. It's isn't because women can't drive very well as, I might be wrong about this, but don't stats say the opposite? Accident-wise? I don't know. All that aside, it's about making things possibly safer for women. There are pros and cons I know. Up to women if they want to make use of them.
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What if the spaces are in the safest parts of the car parks - the busy parts, the well lit parts, the parts with CCTV?
Load More Replies... Why? If it's full you'll have to go to a completely different car park.
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Tyler, I'm curious why you equate equality with being able to hit women without consequence. 'You're equal when I can beat you up in a socially acceptable way' is bothersome. In this case, equality should be that you are NOT able to break a man's jaw because he's 'rude' rather than that you ARE able to break a woman's jaw because she talks back to you. And while I would agree that there would be no 'assault on a female' charge because the individual would not be female, I think most men would press assault charges were you to break their bones because they insulted you. As they should, because it would be illegal regardless. And you should have the right to defend yourself. But you should do so with reasonable force, and there are qualifiers as to whether you were truly under threat and if you acted reasonably to the threat at hand. I think there is the potential for inequality here, but not being able to knock someone out cold for 'slapping' you is a poor example.
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It's not about equality, but safety, as women are at a higher risk of getting assaulted while walking to their car at night. Did you not read the responses?
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As a woman I am very happy with these precautions. It really is about safety, and has nothing to do with equality or feminism.
It is very logical to try to protect your employees, specially if there had complaints about the parking. Yes, ideally we should all have equal rules and this should not be necessary, I agree with the people saying that. But ideally women should not have a good reason to be afraid while walking at night. It seems a reasonable measure until our society changes in that aspect.
I can't say I have a particularly strong opinion on this because I've never seen it before, but I do want to point out how polite pretty much everyone was (I didn't read all the comments so sorry if I'm wrong). You don't see that a lot in these types of arguments and I think it makes their point of veiws' a lot more valid.
Could have just called it female safety parking and no one would have second guessed it. Well.. maybe just unfuckable morons.
Sometimes you have to treat someone differently so that they have an equal chance of something. Children using wheelchairs use lifts rather than stairs to get on a bus and go to school. Someone short may need a stepping stool to reach a cabinet, so that the tall people in the kitchen aren’t the only ones who can get a snack. If it’s a safety precaution, to help protect women so they are not as likely to be raped, alrighty. I can see both pros and cons to this. I see a lot of discourse in the comments about men being more likely to be mugged, which is horrible, but rape (what I feel is the main reason behind the sign) and muggings are not the same thing. Both are violent acts, but not entirely the same. Perhaps we should make all areas more brightly lit to help prevent muggings as well. Often, equality means being seen as worth as much as another. Not being able to just deck a woman in the face, or kick a man in the balls, but realizing that both are just as bad, regardless of gender.
If anyone wishes to discuss, try to keep a civil attitude. It’s difficult to make a point seem valid if the one presenting it is howling like a rabid animal. I try to look at both sides, and I’ll take things into consideration if that thing isn’t blaring and insulting.
Load More Replies... No Matter what the 3rd-wav'ers say, women are definitely the more vulnerable sex. Our country is the rape capital of the world and women are targeted. I would 10,000% support these signs for all the right reasons. Yes, men DO NOT THINK LIKE WOMEN in the "saftey" sense as noted in the comments above.
Possible dumb queston alert but what is a 'corporate level administrator'? I know what an administrator is. I know what corporates are. I'm just not sure what exactly this person is trying to say with this.
An administrator is basically an organizer for an office. Depending on the company, an administrator may do secretarial work in addition to organizing, orchestrating and planning. I would imagine that a "corporate level administrator" would be an administrator who holds a position higher up in the company. At the corporate level they may be responsible for organizing affairs inside and outside the company. I've done those duties, but I didn't have that title.
Load More Replies... Close to the exit, extra lighting, video surveillance. Isn't it sad we need to do this instead of just not raping people? And then this fucktard pretends to not understand the reasoning?
Men aren't taught to think about safety at every turn. I truly believe he didn't realize. Besides, I read the original thread and as soon as people pointed it out he thanked them for pointing it out and agreed that that was probably the reason.
Load More Replies... If men don't like this, then maybe they should stop assaulting women like the cowards they are? Fair?
I understand why the company would do this, but on the otherhand, how low did we go that women need this kind of protection. The most obvious solution is to just stop harassing/mugging people (women and men)! I am tired to have to live with the fact that I always have to keep my guard up wherever I go, especially at night. So people: please raise your children as respectful, gentle and loving souls.
I’m in Ohio and in the winter it’s dark by 5pm and you would be surprised how many men don’t offer to walk to your car, or would be on their cell and walk past you even though it was ‘company policy’ to do so. It was a bad neighborhood and parking was across a busy 4 lane rod. The parking was not very well lit. It was terrifying, especially when there’s homeless people who were everywhere. Glad I got out of there. Alive.
Fine. To make it equal, men should be sexually assaulted the same amount as women, then men can get "men only" parking. Sound equal enough for you dude?
Men are at a much higher risk (2x-3x) to experience violence on the open street. Sounds equal enough for you dude?
Load More Replies... Sounds like a lawsuit waiting to happen. Discrimination against males...
Can we get mens reserved parking spots way in the back in the darker remote areas of the parking lot? Just so we don't feel left out.
Aw, that's a bit much - what about parking in a badly lit gang controlled estate? 😜
Load More Replies... Being cynic, I thought at first that men think that women can't park and that they would protect their cars. That was before I read the comments.
Shocking how normalised sexist violence is in society. Can you imagine special parking spaces to prevent attacks on any other targetted group (such as an ethnic minority)? Would society tolerate a level of violence against a group of people that was so bad this was necessary? Or would they treat it like the national emergency it is?
I don't see it as normalization, but rather an added security measure. Assaults will never go away, but we can at least try to minimize the risk.
Load More Replies... Didn't read the whole thing. Was there an official company answer?
Maybe the men were tired of all the door dings and getting backed into so they moved the women over there.
That last comment was so off. It doesn't make him mature to ask the internet. It would have made him mature if he actually asked someone at his place of employment why it was there instead of strangers on the internet. He should put on his big boy pants and ask someone there who actually knows.
Men and Women should be treated equally according to feminists and politically correct cucks, apart from when they decide women deserve special treatment because we certainly aren't even close to equal in so, so many ways. Sigh...
estimated means estimated. As in 90% of women do not report sexual assaults
Load More Replies... Okay, maybe you're pretty young but you don't have to grow up to be a prat. If you want to get along with the other 50% of the population try being open minded. How do you really think it might feel to be the ones preyed on by society? Ignore those quoting stats about men being most likely to get injured - that's because of men fighting men in brawls or gang related violence. It skews the figures. This is about women being targeted by sick men who just want to hurt them, to sexually assault them. Do you not want your mother to be assaulted in a dark car park? Do you have a sister? You might in the future have a daughter. Would you not want her to be safer? To make society equal - in this instance equally safe from attack in a car park - sometimes you have to take greater measures for part of that society. Why there are problems with labelling on public loos I have no idea and that's irrelevant to THIS discussion.
Load More Replies... What job 'requires' heels? That is outrageous and surely not enforceable. There are jobs which genuinely require uncomfortable clothing, such as safety wear. Women accepting heels being forced on them when there is no reasonable reason are hardly doing themselves any favours.
Load More Replies... Perhaps it's because no-one wanted to be that obvious and that boring.
Load More Replies... It's purely to do with thinking that it is safer for women if they are nearer the exit or shops. It's isn't because women can't drive very well as, I might be wrong about this, but don't stats say the opposite? Accident-wise? I don't know. All that aside, it's about making things possibly safer for women. There are pros and cons I know. Up to women if they want to make use of them.
Load More Replies... What if the spaces are in the safest parts of the car parks - the busy parts, the well lit parts, the parts with CCTV?
Load More Replies... Why? If it's full you'll have to go to a completely different car park.
Load More Replies... Tyler, I'm curious why you equate equality with being able to hit women without consequence. 'You're equal when I can beat you up in a socially acceptable way' is bothersome. In this case, equality should be that you are NOT able to break a man's jaw because he's 'rude' rather than that you ARE able to break a woman's jaw because she talks back to you. And while I would agree that there would be no 'assault on a female' charge because the individual would not be female, I think most men would press assault charges were you to break their bones because they insulted you. As they should, because it would be illegal regardless. And you should have the right to defend yourself. But you should do so with reasonable force, and there are qualifiers as to whether you were truly under threat and if you acted reasonably to the threat at hand. I think there is the potential for inequality here, but not being able to knock someone out cold for 'slapping' you is a poor example.
Load More Replies... It's not about equality, but safety, as women are at a higher risk of getting assaulted while walking to their car at night. Did you not read the responses?
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