Designers often have to compromise with their clients, but sometimes it’s just too much. Inspired by @MarieJulien‘s tweet and born out of frustration at client demands, Paris agency Graphéine decided to show what would happen if famous artworks were given to clients.
“An excess of marketing, consensus, and political correctness were never behind a memorable project,” says graphic design advice agency Graphéine.
Can you relate? Tell us your stories in the comment section.
More info: grapheine.com (h/t: demilked, creativebloq)
Chat Noir poster
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Bob Dylan illustration
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Anatomy of a Murder Poster
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Louvre logo
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Would have been awesome to see the edited pictures after including all the customer comments!
yeah, so many posts about graphist/designer complaining about their clients...
Load More Replies...Admittedly, art – famous or not – is not always very good from a perspective of readability, clarity, or advertisment effect. From a customer perspective, many classics could indeed be critizised. ;)
Every artist knows they're putting their work out there to be judged. That goes without saying. But criticizing is easy, creating is hard. Nearly all non-professional critics are idiots.
Load More Replies...I cringe every comment I read on the pictures. Messed up clients
art for art's sake and illustration to sell a product are too totally different beasts.
This accurately sums up why I hate clients as a designer. I usually don't tell my doctor how to diagnose me. When it comes to design, every.single.idiot. is suddenly a designer.
and then after all the revisions they made us to do, sometimes they're be like: "you know what, I think I like the first design you make"
Load More Replies...you go see a craftsman to build customize furniture in your house...well you except him to follow some of your will? Of course he can discuss the feasability, price, practicalness...but still, you are the buyer. Why should it be different?
That is the thing, if you're hiring a professional to do something, instead of telling them what to do, you should take their opinion a little more seriously. Of course, basic things like the "feel" and main elements are to be laid down by the client, but the client really should not try to tell the designer what font to use or how thick to make lines etc. etc. They can of course, but they shouldn't. They're only shooting themselves in the foot and dissolving the purpose of hiring someone.
Load More Replies...This is an interesting perspective that I never really thought about. I just had this same experience. A so-called "professional" book publisher wanted to use my talents to illustrate some of books/stories. It turned out she had little to no ability to describe accurately what she wanted, she refused to use any photos to help me visualize it, and she wouldn't even use my sketches to draw over and make notes on so that I could understand what she wanted. I did four sketches with me, then she dumped me. Said that it was all my fault that I couldn't understand her descriptions. She was just pulling an ego trip on me. Next time I get a contract that has a Cancellation Fee in it. I was pissed! I'll never work with her again.
Make changes because clients think they know best and you know what happens? The client takes one look and hates it, asks you if you're a real designer.
This has been exactly my experience as a professional designer. Clients often prefer bad design and will pay MORE for garbage than for the real thing.
Bob dylan wasn't black? More like "isn't", he's not dead yet, far from it!
Give in to unreasonable client demands (as e.g.ed above) and you know what happens? They hate the amendments and tell you you're a c**p designer...
I like them all to be honest....Just look at the TV ads now a days comapnies have no idea what people want!
Amélioration ou création complète de la charte graphique de votre marque
An artist has every right to claim their work as well as giving credit where it's due. So no they shouldn't remove their signature nor the printer's credit.
I've had that problem... people love what I do for myself as an artist, but are never happy with what I do for them.
Well, the article, other than the obvious, criticizes the commercialization of art. All 3 designs above are presenting art-related projects: a play, music, movie, museum... It's plain stupid to apply modern advertisement guidelines to advertise Art... not to mention art classics. Quite on spot, from all aspects.
Everyone is a f*****g opionated moron esp. if your in the biz. This can be applied to so any things in Comercial art. Go come up with a new Warhol, beeotch!
I was hoping to see results with all those edits applied. to see how they actually were ruined. Otherwise not funny. And deceptive.
The point wasn't the result but the painful process of dealing with clients as a designer. It's an every day pain in the heart. It takes strength not to stab them with an Xacto...
Load More Replies...are you trying to say these arent fabricated? or else how is it that every other client has the same style of pointing out their suggestions and changes?
i replied too quick. i see its meant to be a demonstration! sorry for my speedpost !
Load More Replies...Would have been awesome to see the edited pictures after including all the customer comments!
yeah, so many posts about graphist/designer complaining about their clients...
Load More Replies...Admittedly, art – famous or not – is not always very good from a perspective of readability, clarity, or advertisment effect. From a customer perspective, many classics could indeed be critizised. ;)
Every artist knows they're putting their work out there to be judged. That goes without saying. But criticizing is easy, creating is hard. Nearly all non-professional critics are idiots.
Load More Replies...I cringe every comment I read on the pictures. Messed up clients
art for art's sake and illustration to sell a product are too totally different beasts.
This accurately sums up why I hate clients as a designer. I usually don't tell my doctor how to diagnose me. When it comes to design, every.single.idiot. is suddenly a designer.
and then after all the revisions they made us to do, sometimes they're be like: "you know what, I think I like the first design you make"
Load More Replies...you go see a craftsman to build customize furniture in your house...well you except him to follow some of your will? Of course he can discuss the feasability, price, practicalness...but still, you are the buyer. Why should it be different?
That is the thing, if you're hiring a professional to do something, instead of telling them what to do, you should take their opinion a little more seriously. Of course, basic things like the "feel" and main elements are to be laid down by the client, but the client really should not try to tell the designer what font to use or how thick to make lines etc. etc. They can of course, but they shouldn't. They're only shooting themselves in the foot and dissolving the purpose of hiring someone.
Load More Replies...This is an interesting perspective that I never really thought about. I just had this same experience. A so-called "professional" book publisher wanted to use my talents to illustrate some of books/stories. It turned out she had little to no ability to describe accurately what she wanted, she refused to use any photos to help me visualize it, and she wouldn't even use my sketches to draw over and make notes on so that I could understand what she wanted. I did four sketches with me, then she dumped me. Said that it was all my fault that I couldn't understand her descriptions. She was just pulling an ego trip on me. Next time I get a contract that has a Cancellation Fee in it. I was pissed! I'll never work with her again.
Make changes because clients think they know best and you know what happens? The client takes one look and hates it, asks you if you're a real designer.
This has been exactly my experience as a professional designer. Clients often prefer bad design and will pay MORE for garbage than for the real thing.
Bob dylan wasn't black? More like "isn't", he's not dead yet, far from it!
Give in to unreasonable client demands (as e.g.ed above) and you know what happens? They hate the amendments and tell you you're a c**p designer...
I like them all to be honest....Just look at the TV ads now a days comapnies have no idea what people want!
Amélioration ou création complète de la charte graphique de votre marque
An artist has every right to claim their work as well as giving credit where it's due. So no they shouldn't remove their signature nor the printer's credit.
I've had that problem... people love what I do for myself as an artist, but are never happy with what I do for them.
Well, the article, other than the obvious, criticizes the commercialization of art. All 3 designs above are presenting art-related projects: a play, music, movie, museum... It's plain stupid to apply modern advertisement guidelines to advertise Art... not to mention art classics. Quite on spot, from all aspects.
Everyone is a f*****g opionated moron esp. if your in the biz. This can be applied to so any things in Comercial art. Go come up with a new Warhol, beeotch!
I was hoping to see results with all those edits applied. to see how they actually were ruined. Otherwise not funny. And deceptive.
The point wasn't the result but the painful process of dealing with clients as a designer. It's an every day pain in the heart. It takes strength not to stab them with an Xacto...
Load More Replies...are you trying to say these arent fabricated? or else how is it that every other client has the same style of pointing out their suggestions and changes?
i replied too quick. i see its meant to be a demonstration! sorry for my speedpost !
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