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Don’t knock it till you’ve tried it—sometimes, the dumbest-sounding ideas turn out to be diamonds in the rough, real pearls of wisdom that make our lives a shade better. We’re talking, of course, about life hacks! Specifically, the kinds of hacks that sound like fake nonsense but are real lifesavers for some people.

After redditor Rat-avec-London asked other users of the site to share exactly those kinds of life hacks, they responded with over 26.6k comments. The thread quickly went viral, getting more than 75k upvotes at the time of writing, as well as attracting media attention. Check out some of the most intriguing life hacks that people shared below and upvote the ones that you liked the most. And remember—just because something sounds fake doesn’t mean it is (and vice versa).

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40 Of The Best Life Hacks That Sound Fake But Actually Work, Shared By People Using your turn signal actually can help other drivers know which direction you plan to go and makes driving safer for everyone

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40 Of The Best Life Hacks That Sound Fake But Actually Work, Shared By People Whenever you accidentally set off your smoke alarm, give your pets a treat so they learn to come to you when there actually is a fire and you need to escape.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As much as I love the idea, you'd have to set off the alarm many times for it to work.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Also a great way to turn your family pet into an arsonist

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

love this one. i used to get this recurring nightmare of natural disasters where I couldn't find my dogs and cats. or they simply wouldn't listen to me. it was awful.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is also how they train service dogs for people who have lost their hearing - it works for doorbells, alarms, knocks at the door, etc.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As someone who has lost their home and pets to a fire, I don't think this will work, not with cats at least. The smoke elicits a primal response in them to run and hide. A Pavlovian treat trick with a smoke alarm isn't going to override that instinct.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Great idea, now I'll give my Guinea pig a few nibbles every time it goes off

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Brilliant!! (Watch, now I'm gonna do it on PURPOSE tomorrow, hahaha!) Treats at the ready!!

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The infrequency that this will happen will make it very hard for them to learn. At least, if you're a responsible, careful person.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If you are setting off your smoke alarms frequently enough to train your pets with it, you should consider ordering in more often.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Worked when I was a kid. Mum always burned the first pan of cookies. 😁

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When? That sounds ominous. How about "if." :) Its a great idea, though!!!

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes!! I have trained all my dogs to go to the door and wait if the smoke detector goes off. Then you just have monthly "fire drills"d

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Only problem with this is if the alarm goes off when you are not home. Those pets could be sitting right under it waiting for you to give them a treat.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I haven’t accidentally set my fire alarm off in like 16 years.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

THIS! And do not wait for it to maybe happen, make it happen!

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Whenever we accidentally set off our smoke alarm, our cats disappear for hours. I guess we could give them treats after they eventually reappear, but that wouldn't do much good.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I've often worried about them if that detector goes off and they are off hiding out of fear...I can breathe a little easier now!

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

if there was a fire i don't see how my cat would help me escape

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That's actually smart. 3 out of 5 for usefulness (only because in a real fire don't think the pet would give up percieved safety of a hiding place for a Snausage)

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Doesn't work for pet snakes you feed monthly. Come to think of it, maybe you don't want them to come to you once heated up to hyperactivity (as they're coldblooded, outside temp regulates speeds).

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40 Of The Best Life Hacks That Sound Fake But Actually Work, Shared By People There is absolutely nothing wrong with showing up to work, doing the absolute minimum to maintain a job, and going home and enjoying your life. massive lifesaver to one's mental health.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"Work to live, not live to work". Others may choose to work harder, but that's on them - it's all a choice for what is important to the individual, and that's ok if it's different for different people.

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In an earlier interview, I spoke about life hacks that sound absolutely silly with British comedian Ariane Sherine, from London. She helped me settle the age-old question about whether something that sounds and looks dumb is actually stupid or not.

“It’s actually very smart, and it’s a shame if people don’t use it for fear of looking dumb!" Ariane told Bored Panda, pointing out that we sometimes prioritize our reputations over what actually works. And we’re sometimes scared to test something out because it might make us look like utter fools.

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40 Of The Best Life Hacks That Sound Fake But Actually Work, Shared By People If you've forgotten an acquaintance's name, just ask them what their name is, and after they tell you, say "no, your last name." Works like a charm and they never suspect a thing.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Except in France, where a popular TV show made that one of its main jokes, so virtually everybody is aware of the trick now

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40 Of The Best Life Hacks That Sound Fake But Actually Work, Shared By People If at a place where you don't speak the language, learn the words for please and thank you. Those, and a smile, will get you far.

AichSmize , Zen Chung Report

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's also helpful to learn, "I'm sorry officer. I didn't know she was your daughter"

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40 Of The Best Life Hacks That Sound Fake But Actually Work, Shared By People if you are ever attacked by a dog, push your forearm INTO the bite. This pries the jaws apart and prevents them from clamping down. If a dog is attacking you, the best thing you can do is offer your forearm, push as far back as possible, and then grab the dog by the scruff of its neck with your other hand to hold it. The dog is now functionally muzzled and you have control of its head. The sooner and harder you push into the bite, the less damage the bite will do.

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Ariane explained that people often look down on ideas that sound dumb on a theoretical level because we want others to think we’re way smarter than we might actually be. That’s how much our reputations matter to us (whether we’re aware of this or not).

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40 Of The Best Life Hacks That Sound Fake But Actually Work, Shared By People Wear the same colours as the zoo employees, the animals will come right up to you.

Comfortable_Figure27 , Allan Ferguson Report

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is also useful when you're walking off with the animal to your car to take him home.

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40 Of The Best Life Hacks That Sound Fake But Actually Work, Shared By People From the amazing book ‘The Gift of Fear’ by Gavin DeBecker: “A woman alone who needs assistance is actually far better off choosing someone and asking for help, as opposed to waiting for an unsolicited approach. The person you choose is nowhere near as likely to bring you hazard as is the person who chooses you.”

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Don’t wait for help either because you might not get it. I’ve been in a situation where I was being harassed by a man in broad daylight in a populated public place—multiple people saw it happening and no one helped. This may seem obvious now but it wasn’t obvious to me back then—do not be concerned with politeness when someone’s intentions toward you are not good. It’s okay to be “rude” to get away from someone who is trying to coerce you into doing something you do not want to do.

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40 Of The Best Life Hacks That Sound Fake But Actually Work, Shared By People If you feel suicidal or depressed....don't focus on hope. It is enough to just stay curious. Curiosity has the power to keep you alive far longer than hope ever will. Curiosity leads to engaging work and this leads to opportunity.

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"Everybody wants to think they’re smart (even if they’re actually Donald Trump!) and people hate feeling stupid or being duped. If a piece of advice doesn’t sound helpful, I guess people who see themselves as clever will automatically reject it rather than try it and risk feeling dumb," the comedian said this is why we may avoid doing silly things.

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40 Of The Best Life Hacks That Sound Fake But Actually Work, Shared By People When you're freaking out, need to relax, e.g. when a chiro is about to crack your neck or anything along those lines, wiggle your toes. Apparently your brain can't do both, freaking out and wiggling toes, tensing up and wiggling toes etc

cheerylifelover123 , cottonbro Report

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40 Of The Best Life Hacks That Sound Fake But Actually Work, Shared By People 25% of 18 is the same as 18% of 25. Percentages are reversible and one is easier to figure out than the other one.

DetroitJim , Karolina Grabowska Report

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40 Of The Best Life Hacks That Sound Fake But Actually Work, Shared By People It you start to cough while eating or drinking, essentially the “went down the wrong pipe”, immediately lift both your arms up in the air and keep them held up for a few seconds. The act opens your airways and will allow you to catch your breath. Also helps food or drink travel downward.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Just throw ya hands in the air... And waive around like you just don't care! :)

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One of the British comedian’s favorite life hacks has to do with avocados and how to check if they’re ripe. Ariane pointed out that avocados have an “inbuilt ripeness sensor” that lets you distinguish if it’s still green, ripe, or overripe.

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40 Of The Best Life Hacks That Sound Fake But Actually Work, Shared By People If you’ve got a splinter below your skin surface, wrap a banana peel around it. Wet side against your skin. It will draw the splinter out most of the time. I don’t know how but it fricken works. Banana voodoo. Banavoodoo. Banadoo?

Rusty_is_a_good_boy , Ryutaro Tsukata Report

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40 Of The Best Life Hacks That Sound Fake But Actually Work, Shared By People If your car is overheating, turn your heat on full blast.

When you turn the heat on in a car, it pulls heat from the engine into the cab, thus cooling the engine.

Bryarx , Richard Berg Report

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And roll down the windows. Working in Little Rock, AR, had to do this often in the summer rush hour traffic...which didn't rush.

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40 Of The Best Life Hacks That Sound Fake But Actually Work, Shared By People If you're watching YouTube on your phone just scroll to the end and restart the vid to skip all ads.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why TF does YouTube think abruptly cutting away in the middle of a video that’s less than 10 minutes long won’t royally piss people off—-especially not even doing it in a section of the video where it would make sense? YouTube is playing a very dangerous game with that practice. Piss enough people off, and viewership will drop dramatically.

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“You know how hard it is to tell whether an avocado’s ripe before cutting into it? Simply twist the stem. If it doesn’t come off, it’s underripe; if it comes off and is green underneath, it’s ripe; if it’s brown underneath, it’s overripe. Voila—no more rock hard or mushy grey avocados!" she shared. The comedian added that it’s ironic how avocados marketed as ‘ripe’ in supermarkets are usually anything but.

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40 Of The Best Life Hacks That Sound Fake But Actually Work, Shared By People Sleep on big decisions.

You think most clearly in the morning, and often after some time passes you realize you were about to make a big mistake.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

German expression "I' ll sleep over it", in French "La nuit porte conseil - The night brings advice"

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40 Of The Best Life Hacks That Sound Fake But Actually Work, Shared By People Makeup remover on deodorant stains.
My husband has a lot of T-shirts with white/stained armpits, so I gave it a shot.
It worked. :o

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I regularly use makeup remover to the most stubborn stains in the sink. Though the fact that makeup remover removes almost any stain from almost anything, has made me doubt do I really want to put that stuff near my face.

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40 Of The Best Life Hacks That Sound Fake But Actually Work, Shared By People Counting really slowly with the goal of reaching 150 is a decent way to fall asleep. If you have any thoughts during it just let them play out, and if you forget what number you're on just go from what you last remember. If you make any major movements just start again.

The goal is to force your brain in to slowing down and not having any jerky motions or thoughts, and eventually reaching such a level of carelessness that you eventually fall asleep without realising. Helped me quite a few times, especially with rain sounds, hope it helps some of you too!

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't usually have trouble sleeping but when I do what best works for me is taking a random letter from the alphabet and trying to find as many vegetables and fruit starting from that letter.

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Like with plenty of new ideas and inventions, chance plays an important element when it comes to discovering new and useful life hacks. Whether through experimentation or lucky coincidence, we might end up finding a pearl of wisdom among the weeds.

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40 Of The Best Life Hacks That Sound Fake But Actually Work, Shared By People More life advice than a life hack, but: “A dropped knife doesn’t have a handle.” If you ever drop a kitchen knife or other bladed instrument, just let it fall. Trying to catch it will almost certainly give you a nasty slice on the hand.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My involuntary reaction has always been to try to lift both feet off the floor at the same time.

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40 Of The Best Life Hacks That Sound Fake But Actually Work, Shared By People Run your wrists under cold water or rub an ice cube on your pulse points to cool down all over quickly when you get overheated. It seems obvious but I didn’t realize it until last summer working in a warehouse with no ac.

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40 Of The Best Life Hacks That Sound Fake But Actually Work, Shared By People If you’ve written on a dry erase board (or any glossy surface) with a permanent marker (like a Sharpie) just draw over it with a dry erase marker and it will wipe right off.

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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Hi! I'm pooh & I just use hand sanitizers (100% recommended by a fellow bear)

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And despite how funny it might sound, life hacks are an expression of how wonderful the scientific method is, riding on the wave that is human ingenuity. We might lose hope in humanity from time to time, but just the fact that there are hundreds of people sharing useful life hacks is enough to restore our faith in our intelligence as a species a tiny bit,

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40 Of The Best Life Hacks That Sound Fake But Actually Work, Shared By People Gently rocking back and forth while pooping. I’ve never had any problems in the bathroom, but I happened to be sitting on the toilet when I read the comment so I decided to give it a test drive. I was pleasantly surprised at how quick and effortless the whole experience was and I haven’t gone back to my old stationary technique since.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It also helps to put up your feet on sth like a stool (best way would be to squat down on sth, but thats just not practical lol)

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40 Of The Best Life Hacks That Sound Fake But Actually Work, Shared By People Dawn dish soap is better for cleaning tubs than any bathroom cleaner. Consider that when you bathe you’re mostly washing of body oils/dirt/skin. Dawn is so effective at cleaning oil it’s used to clean up after oil spills. You can use a small amount and it cleans pretty effortlessly with circles on a sponge.

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40 Of The Best Life Hacks That Sound Fake But Actually Work, Shared By People When putting a paint can lid back on the can, first put down a layer of cling film (saran wrap). This will stop the lid sticking to the can once the paint on the lid has dried.

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Which of these life hacks did you find to be the most useful? Which ones were a complete surprise to you, dear Pandas? Do you have any fake-sounding-but-real hacks to share with all the other Readers here? Drop us a comment below!

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40 Of The Best Life Hacks That Sound Fake But Actually Work, Shared By People Crayons are flammable and will provide about an hour of light as a candle if you lit the top.

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40 Of The Best Life Hacks That Sound Fake But Actually Work, Shared By People Use a wet knife to chop onions, it reduces tears if you have sensitive eyes.

It really works!! I could barely make it through chopping half an onion without needing multiple breaks before I tried this. Just keep the faucet running and dip your knife under periodically while chopping. I still get a little reaction, but nowhere near as bad.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Don’t leave the faucet running, please. Have a container next to you filled with water rather.

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40 Of The Best Life Hacks That Sound Fake But Actually Work, Shared By People "Pay yourself first". No matter how much or how little you make. Take 10% of your paycheck and put it in an emergency fund before you buy or pay for anything else. That strategy has saved me on numerous occasions.

anonymous , Karolina Grabowska Report

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Not necessarily 10%. Calculate how much you need a month (rent, utilities, food etc). See how much money you have left (if you do) and take at least half of it (or all) to the savings account.

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40 Of The Best Life Hacks That Sound Fake But Actually Work, Shared By People Mosquitos Bites be gone!

This hack is the most valuable thing I’ve learned in my whole life.

Heat of the back of a spoon with hot water. Then apply the back of the spoon to the bite. I usually do it twice for good measure. The spoon needs to be hot enough to keep on the skin without burning yourself. So test the heat before you press it down. Keep it on until the heat dissipates. Bite will stop itching almost immediately...usually the bite ha completely disappeared within an hour.

This only works with mosquitoes from my experience.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have used ice cubes for the same result for many years. Rub until the area is numb. By the time it warms up, no more itch. I am guessing the increased blood flow to warm it up helps dilute/carry away the toxin?

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40 Of The Best Life Hacks That Sound Fake But Actually Work, Shared By People If you're going to climb a ladder or work on your roof, wear a bike helmet.

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40 Of The Best Life Hacks That Sound Fake But Actually Work, Shared By People Every male should know this. If you want to get rid of an awkward boner flex any muscle in your body maybe an arm. For a minute. The blood will rush to that muscle and away from your D. Crisis averted.

GingerOverseer , Dương Nhân Report

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If it doesn't work, don't worry... it will just look like you are flexing your muscles with a boner... noone will think you are odd... promise...

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40 Of The Best Life Hacks That Sound Fake But Actually Work, Shared By People During pollen season... rinse your hair before bed. Otherwise you’re just depositing pollen on your pillowcase every night and then rolling your face in it all night. And then multiply that by how many nights you use the same pillowcase.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Pollen get caught in your own grime on the pillowcase. First in your hair (where it mostly fell off of when you moved round indoors) and then in all the dead skin and sebum from your whole head. Pro tip: replace pillowcases often.

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40 Of The Best Life Hacks That Sound Fake But Actually Work, Shared By People Rubbing vegetable oil (or any cooking oil) on your hands after you cut up jalapeños or other hot peppers. It gets rid of the awfulness that would normally be left on your hands from the peppers. I rub my hands with oil and then wash it off with dish soap. I can totally remove my contacts after doing this. It’s crazy how well this works.

PaulRuddsButthole , Pepper Geek Report

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40 Of The Best Life Hacks That Sound Fake But Actually Work, Shared By People The cheapest, most effective, and safest insecticide against roaches (especially those huge “water bug” roaches that we have in the South) is a spray bottle of mostly water with just a little liquid dish soap in it.

Shake the bottle & get the water a little foamy, then spray the roaches. They will run, scrabble, and attempt escape, of course, but they will die. The soap film suffocates them faster than any chemicals will.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I know two ways to get rid of roaches. I moved into a place that had an infestation and was working for a guy who had a Masters in Entomology. He said just make sure everything is dry. You can't starve a roach - they will literally eat anything. But always keep your pipes dry, wipe out your sinks, etc. When they have no access to water they will leave. That's all I did. They were gone in a couple weeks and never came back. The other idea is what's stated here but you don't have to spray to roach. Just put out some little dishes of water with a couple drops of soap in them. The roaches will drink it and die.

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40 Of The Best Life Hacks That Sound Fake But Actually Work, Shared By People Drinking a cup of water with your alcoholic drink, waking up Alive not dead.

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40 Of The Best Life Hacks That Sound Fake But Actually Work, Shared By People I hesitantly submit squeegeeing yourself off before getting out of the shower. It's so simple I was dubious, but just use your hands to quickly wipe off excess water and bingo, you're not cold getting out.

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40 Of The Best Life Hacks That Sound Fake But Actually Work, Shared By People Microwave tip: Put a cup of water on the tray with whatever you are microwaving, it always makes it taste better and "fresher".

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40 Of The Best Life Hacks That Sound Fake But Actually Work, Shared By People If your ring gets stuck on your finger windex will slide it right off. Worked at a jewelry store for five plus years.

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#38

40 Of The Best Life Hacks That Sound Fake But Actually Work, Shared By People Eating candied ginger helps with nausea. Any ginger really, but candied ginger is much better tasting.

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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Stomach bug? Drink dry flat ginger ale. Has to be stuff with sugar in, not diet. Ginger settles the tum and the sugar and water help you hydrate etc. Works well for hangovers as well. Make sure it is flat, as the fizz can aggravate the tum.

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40 Of The Best Life Hacks That Sound Fake But Actually Work, Shared By People Vinegar in a plastic bag with rubber band tied around any faucet will make the faucet like-new. I'm talking decade old rust and stuff gone...and water flows like the first day.

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40 Of The Best Life Hacks That Sound Fake But Actually Work, Shared By People Getting 8 hours of time on bed, not necessarily sleep, is mental magic

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