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Woman Gives Her Mother In Law A Fake Key Copy To Her House She Was Supposed To Use In Emergency, MIL Gets Busted At Christmas Dinner
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Woman Gives Her Mother In Law A Fake Key Copy To Her House She Was Supposed To Use In Emergency, MIL Gets Busted At Christmas Dinner

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They say that when you marry someone, you marry their entire family. There’s a lot of truth in that. But unlike the first part of this saying, the latter one is not really up to you. So yeah, you may as well end up with a white elephant in a bag.

This story from a 34-year-old woman who said ‘I do’ a year ago gives a glimpse into what it is like to have a mother in law that gets on your nerves. “My husband and I purchased a new house recently. My MIL kept pushing to get an emergency key, she promised that she would only use it in an emergency,” she wrote in a post on r/AITA. But it turned out, the author’s mother-in-law is really nosey and she already walked in on them twice, so there was little chance she wouldn’t do it again.

So unbeknownst to her, the MIL got a fake copy to their house. And her snoopy deeds came to light at a Christmas dinner which ended in one hell of a tantrum and one more family drama to go in the books.

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juniperbushes avatar
Gin
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Good effing grief! Why are some parents like that and why the hell do their offspring let them get away with it? Weird af! Honestly, if your partner isn't putting you first then you have a problem. The only people who should come before a husband/wife are their children.

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Caro Caro
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When a mother walks in on you being intimate and you (he) don't think it's a big deal then that's already a red flag. He's a mamma's boy and the MIL is controlling and had the tantrum to manipulate the family into taking her side. Him wanting your phone is what his mother would want to do ... it's all about control.

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Bunzilla
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sounds like the OP's husband needs to get married to his mother. I'll never understand this weird, unhealthy relationship that so many mothers seem to have with their sons. Like their son's partner is somehow 'intruding' on their relationship. The OP should seriously rethink her relationship with her husband given his behaviour. He will ALWAYS take his mother's side over his wife's, and it doesn't sound like he respects her at all. Her feelings aren't important to him.

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Otter
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He's going to give the MIL keys, now. Guaranteed.

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IlovemydogShilo
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My Mother had some REAL issues with her Mother in law. This was back in the 60s and Granny came from a catholic family in the southern Irish countryside and my mother was an English protestant living in England. In case you don't know that in it's self is not a good mix. The English and the Irish had issues and the Catholic and the Protestant as well. And that's putting it mildly. It's better now, but back then, pretty bad to sat the least. Even when my mother converted to Catholicism nothing changed. Granny treated my mother like dirt. ALL of it behind my dad's back and mum said nothing. One day my dad came home early. Granny was living with at the time and even though mum waited on granny hand foot, granny still treated her like dirt. When Dad heard what granny was saying he LOST it. He told granny that if she wanted to live in this house then she had to treat mum with respect or go back home. He ended by saying "I chose her, I was lumbered with you". I will choose my wife over you every time. EVERY TIME!" Granny went back to Ireland soon after and mum and dad spent the next 43 years happily married until dad passed away. THAT is how a man should be towards his wife when it comes to mother in law issues. You are NTA your husband and mother in law are.

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Flying Captain
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Reminds me of my dad. His mom has a lot of issues that her only son is not in Vietnam by her side to care for her but instead in Germany living with his wife and two daughters (my parents fled Vietnam bc of political reasons). Even though there have been many attempts to persuade him returning to VN he said "No...I chose to start a family so my family here is my responsibility." (Aka "I didn't chose to have a mom.") So proud of my dad.

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Deborah B
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA - and be real - MIL chose the setting and tone of the 'exposure'. If she hadn't made it an issue in front of the whole family, it wouldn't have been. The only thing you could have done differently at that point would have been to say "I wasn't comfortable giving you a key, because I feel that you don't respect my privacy. Do you really want to have this arguement now, in front of everyone?" It would have given her the opportunity to walk it back without total public shaming. She was totally in the wrong, all around. Your husband is also totally in the wrong. Yes, he has the right to expect you to treat his family with respect, but respect has to go both ways. Someone walking in on you in a private moment is violating. Even if *he* doesn't feel violated, you do, and he needs to hear that, and support you. You have the right to set boundries and privacy expectations that allow you to be comfortable in your own home.

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Leigh Cauthen
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I hate to say divorce but honestly I don't see how this is going to work out for you. Not only does he not support you, he's also insanely controlling. I would get out before it's too late...aka before you have children together. I'm guessing your mil isn't someone you'd want in the delivery room, but who would push her way in anyways and your husband wouldn't do a thing about it. Then you'd have to deal with your mil disregarding your wishes with your own child for the rest of your life. If your husband doesn't put you first NOW he never will.

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Don't Look
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It’s just how it is though. We’ve all read this story. Some of us have lived it. At this point we can sit back and laugh until it isn’t funny.

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Kristy Nelson
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA! Wow, I'm sorry, but it seems to me you might have to rethink your marriage and see a counselor. It sounds like a very unhealthy and toxic family dynamic.

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ZAPanda
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Give husband an ultimatum. Either he apologises and the mother apologises or you are gone. Warn his next wife/girlfriend as well. Unacceptable. If MIL walked in on intimacy that's immediately a red flag. I'd have ejected her from the house at that point.

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Octavia Hansen
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm surprised that MIL didn't ask SON for a key. MIL probably has other problems with the wife, but she apparently doesn't go over any issues with her son. This is NOT going to get any better with age . . . and I'd change ALL the locks TODAY!

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K Witmer
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He learned to have temper tantrums and to push people boundaries from his whacky mother. She's going to have a lot of problems w him and his family if he's already doing this.

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LRevello
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When you act like a child (like the MIL) you deserve to be treated like a child. Trust & respect are EARNED. No key or I'd get a divorce. You married him, not his crazy mother. Clearly she has no boundaries and is mentally unstable. She was the one who created the scene by publicly calling YOU out during a holiday. SHE wanted a fuss. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

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Zoe's Mom
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

But I would take it that she was this way all along. Not blaming the OP but this was toxic way before she married him and Mama's Boy isn't putting his foot down and having his wife's back. Houston, we have a problem.

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Yayaboobo
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It doesn't matter whether you two were being intimate, that's not the point. No one should be in your home unannounced.

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Lara Verne
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Oh nope. Her husband is an asshole as well as his mother. Get away from that family.

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Patti Vance
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

never gave my sil a key or any other of his family for that matter. our old house had the washer and dryer in the basement so you had to walk out of the living area, across the small enclosed porch area and down the steps. when alone & doing laundry sometimes would not wear a robe as...i'm in my own house. now, i will admit that my night clothes are from frederick's of hollywood but they were kind of skimpy. came up one day to see my two nephews, ages 10 and 12 w/their mom on the porch. told her that unless she wanted her boys to get early female anatomy lessons she needed to learn how to knock or call before coming over. my ex got upset because 'their family'. too freaking bad. my parents lived next door on one side; my son lives on the other side after we broke up. in over a decade they never have walked into my house without calling first to let me know they were coming over.

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Stannous Flouride
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The third comment above (the list) hits every nail on the head. IMHO Those nails should be driven into the coffin of the relationship.

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Daria Z
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Uh... I would not want to interfere in whatever relationships this mother and son are having. Don't wanna be a third wheel 🙃

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Lucie B Gendreau
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Do yourself a favor and lose the husband and the mother-in-law!!! Who needs that aggravation?!? It will only get worse!! Time to start fresh in a new healthy relationship minus the MIL baggage!

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S
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Don't stress it girl, there are plenty of decent men still left in the world. You'll find another one. I'm sure we would all pitch in to throw you a divorce party lol

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Rench
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My MIL has never had, nor ever will have a key to anything I own. It seems unnecessary to me. We leave our doors unlocked until we go to bed or when we leave. In the 30+ years that I have been with my wife, there has never been a time when she needed one.

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Suzanne Clark
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sooooo not acceptable. He needs to grow up and tell Mommy he's not the baby anymore, and start acting like an adult and more importantly, YOUR HUSBAND!

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Nicholas Yu
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Looks like you've got to divorce your momma's boy of a wimpy mhusband.

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Karis Ravenhill
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA. Momma's boy. Run from this, now. First, he's fine with his mother walking in to your shared home unannounced, and when you're being intimate? The fact she did this TWICE is extremely twisted on both hers and her sons part, she seems to enjoy interrupting you both having sex (which no mother should ever want to see), and the son almost has some kind of Oedipus complex going on with his mother. This sh*t is dark. He also doesn't respect your opinion, voice, or the fact it's YOUR home too that the MIL is invading unannounced. Don't apologize, tell him he needs to get off his mother's teat, grow up and start respecting you, or you'll find someone else to replace him that doesn't have such a twisted relationship with his mother at his age.

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Beth Gietl
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My in laws did something like that. They waited until we left for a vacation. They had the key to check on the sump pump in case it rained. It didn't. But they came into the house, went to the basement and my MIL went through things and borrowed items for a luncheon she was hosting. Never said a word about it until she finally returned the items after her party. I was livid, but hubby thought it was OK.

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Lily
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Simply put, MIL is a liar. And that the husband defends her repeated invasions of privacy is despicable.

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Isabella
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't even understand WHY on Earth did she married this guy? it was obvious before tying the knot, that he has issues and will not change magically after the wedding.

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blatherskitenoir
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think her one mistake was confessing it was on purpose. She should have said "huh, sorry, must have gotten the wrong key copied, or maybe they messed it up...by the way, wtf were you doing in my house? I'm going to have to ask you give the fake key back, and not expect a new one."

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Eiram
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wow. He basically accused you of everything his mother actually did. I would find a neutral friend to help talk to him about his mother issues. The red flag was him not caring when she interrupted you guys TWICE.

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Animalsrgreat
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Well played on your part! She doesn't need a key to your house, and besides being a old brat, she has proven she can't be trusted. I'm afraid you've married a mama's boy, and you will never be his priority.

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Andrei Caldararu
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If there's at least another person present, you always take your SO's side, regardless of what you actually think - that can be shared later, in private

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Renita McAfee
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Good luck f*****g for your husband's mom's enjoyment. Not saying this lightly. I dated someone who's mom had a history of walking in on her son with his girlfriends and I noted out the first time she did it to me. He would also blame the gf.....after his mom called us tramps for sleeping with him. Should have left the first time, she gets off on it.

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deanna woods
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

For my family, it wasn't my grandmother, it was my two aunts. My aunts were my dad's sister and they treated my mom so horribly. It doesn't happen anymore, but it did happen for a very long time. This husband's behavior is worrisome and the OP needs to consider if she wants to stay married to this man.

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Diane Knight
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If she has a 'working' key, tell him no 'nookie' unless there's an alarm installed and activated during those times.

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Teri Roberts
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Been there done that. My husband always thought I was exaggerating when angst or issues came up between his mother and myself. So I stopped telling him. The first time he saw it for himself, he confronted her and made her leave. Your husband is married to you, not his mother. You have to decide if you want her to come first and if he is capable of putting you and your marriage first.

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Marty Sunderland
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA!!! MIL outed herself! She chose to bring it up then thinking she had plenty of backing. She ruined the meal, and her son will let her ruin your marriage and the rest of your life. Give her your key when you pack up and move to a place where you can have peace and privacy.

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SilverSkyCloud
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

why do people marry / stay with people like this? how desperate are they to stay in these relationships??????? p.s im not talking about relationships where one partner is too scared to leave thats completely different

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Shruti Patel
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Give her the key n install cameras. Their kind would even snoop to see if you are using protection or pills.

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GhostReflection
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Did anyone else notice that the top comment was written by "you'retheAH"

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Katinka Min
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They all sound rather immature. If your mother in law walks in on you unannaounced you straight out tell her, you are not giving her a key!! You don't play stupid games in your midthirties. And you better don't buy a house with someone you've only known for a year and who has an oedipus complex!

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Random Anon
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The husband needs to be the illustration for the phrase "mamma's boy".

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Pete Häkkinen
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In their own words she can't help it so since she lacks self-control you must do it for her by not giving her access. If he doesn't get it get a divorce.

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maper sam
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

why did she give her the key in the first place? I don't get it. why not just say no.

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Frannie Kaplan
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

First mistake is you married the husband. Narc mother feels no guilt with her son enabling her like that. I will never ever ever marry some one like this. It's like 2 mistakes for the price of 1.

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Mike Loux
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Lawyer up, OP. Kick him to the curb. He's a loser and it will only get worse over time.

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Lin B
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Definitely NTA, but she has a real husband problem. The husband should have been the one to tell his mother she didn’t need, and wasn’t getting, a key to their house.

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Imogene Cargeaux
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wait what? "She had a smug on her face after I hand delivered it to her" But in the sentence before OP said that she sent her a key.... hmmm? Which is it dude. I think someone may have changed a few details in the real story n forgot to proofread.

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Katherine Dobias
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would like to know what she thinks she will find by snooping in the house. Give her sometime and she will get bored of going into the house. She'll just stop doing it on her own. I personally wouldn't aggravate the situation even further. Sometimes people fight back just because you're fighting them, if you stop they'll stop too just give it some time. The fire will burn out on its own if you stop feeding it.

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Gerard Neaux
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If she has kids with him, she's going to be abused. Like it's happened already but worse since she'll have less choices to pack her bags.

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OhForSmegSake
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I moved in with a Mama's Boy whose Mama had a key to his house. We came home from a day out to find her washing dishes and it was obvious that she had been in our bedroom "tidying the drawers" (snooping). I asked that he take her emergency key back bc she had crossed a line, especially since we were both at-home nudists and very kink friendly so what was in those drawers was extremely personal. He took the key off of her in front of me but, I later found out, gave her another behind my back. He also got upset when I gave an emergency key to a trusted friend of mine who I knew would not violate our privacy as he "didn't want a stranger being able to wander into his house w***y-nilly". We didn't last long after that.

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Glen MacLeod
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I hope you don't have children. If not, get out before it happens, otherwise you will have his mother in your life FOR-EV-ER. As for your husaband....nothing wrong with him a spine implant wouldn't cure. He's not a grown up man.

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Eric Mesh
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2 years ago

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OP, while the lesser fault, is still a deceptor. A sitdown with a mediator/ therapist for all three to understand why MIL thinks her behavior is acceptable, and give the OP some power in objectivity and authority to put MIL and husband in place, set boundaries, and consequences for breaking them. Of course, all easier said than done.

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Alejandro Vega
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2 years ago

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Sorry but you the A, you don't get to complaint if you choose to marry a mommas boy!

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Liam Walsh
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My father sulked - massively. He kept it hidden until after the wedding. Controlling types hide what they don't want you to see until they think it is too late.

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Homer Jay
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2 years ago

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The old womani may be a pain in the back but, why humiliating people? If humiliation was the correct answer and solved problems, then why we have jails instead of humiliation houses

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Otter
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2 years ago (edited)

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I have mixed feelings. Yes the MIL is The Asshole, big time,, but the OP could have left it at "...but you said you'd only use the key for an emergency", and let the family work out the implications on their own. It's not nice to "gotcha" at Christmas dinner, unless it's someone who loves gotcha games.

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Homer Jay
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2 years ago

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Or making her think that in case of emergency the key works

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Chris Scritchfield
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2 years ago

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YTA. What you did was basically give a pack of needles to an addict. I mean yeah she shouldn't have been given one regardless but the method used and posting it here was for your ego. Given your SO's behavior you knew in advance how this would go and honestly he should divorce you. The fallout is your fault and your no better than that kid feeding toothpaste Oreos to the homeless for online views. That being said it's still funny as hell!

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Mark Pho
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2 years ago (edited)

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You're both AH's. Seriously. Where do you get off lying to your family member? What ever happened to simple communication? "My dear MIL. I love you, but really don't want repeats of incidence like when you walk in on us in the middle of our most intimate moments." And what if there was an emergency? You would have screwed yourself and your MIL with that fake key. Honest, straight forward and non-accusatory communication would have solved this without the drama. Hopefully all is being forgiven. Your husband is also the AH, by the way. But you definitely are too.

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Lucie B Gendreau
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You are obviously missing the point of the story!! The MIL is violating the boundaries of the marriage!!

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YTA. You could ve given no keys and not post all family quarrels online. But you chose to create a situation with only negative outcomes. Either your mil used it outside of emergency as now, or either she awaited the first emergency and noticed your clever scheme caused somebodys dead by late treatment. ... But what do you say, your mil is An A too. Sure she is but that's outside of your control. You only control your own A-hole-dom

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Gin
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Good effing grief! Why are some parents like that and why the hell do their offspring let them get away with it? Weird af! Honestly, if your partner isn't putting you first then you have a problem. The only people who should come before a husband/wife are their children.

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Caro Caro
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When a mother walks in on you being intimate and you (he) don't think it's a big deal then that's already a red flag. He's a mamma's boy and the MIL is controlling and had the tantrum to manipulate the family into taking her side. Him wanting your phone is what his mother would want to do ... it's all about control.

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Bunzilla
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sounds like the OP's husband needs to get married to his mother. I'll never understand this weird, unhealthy relationship that so many mothers seem to have with their sons. Like their son's partner is somehow 'intruding' on their relationship. The OP should seriously rethink her relationship with her husband given his behaviour. He will ALWAYS take his mother's side over his wife's, and it doesn't sound like he respects her at all. Her feelings aren't important to him.

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Otter
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He's going to give the MIL keys, now. Guaranteed.

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IlovemydogShilo
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My Mother had some REAL issues with her Mother in law. This was back in the 60s and Granny came from a catholic family in the southern Irish countryside and my mother was an English protestant living in England. In case you don't know that in it's self is not a good mix. The English and the Irish had issues and the Catholic and the Protestant as well. And that's putting it mildly. It's better now, but back then, pretty bad to sat the least. Even when my mother converted to Catholicism nothing changed. Granny treated my mother like dirt. ALL of it behind my dad's back and mum said nothing. One day my dad came home early. Granny was living with at the time and even though mum waited on granny hand foot, granny still treated her like dirt. When Dad heard what granny was saying he LOST it. He told granny that if she wanted to live in this house then she had to treat mum with respect or go back home. He ended by saying "I chose her, I was lumbered with you". I will choose my wife over you every time. EVERY TIME!" Granny went back to Ireland soon after and mum and dad spent the next 43 years happily married until dad passed away. THAT is how a man should be towards his wife when it comes to mother in law issues. You are NTA your husband and mother in law are.

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Flying Captain
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Reminds me of my dad. His mom has a lot of issues that her only son is not in Vietnam by her side to care for her but instead in Germany living with his wife and two daughters (my parents fled Vietnam bc of political reasons). Even though there have been many attempts to persuade him returning to VN he said "No...I chose to start a family so my family here is my responsibility." (Aka "I didn't chose to have a mom.") So proud of my dad.

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Deborah B
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA - and be real - MIL chose the setting and tone of the 'exposure'. If she hadn't made it an issue in front of the whole family, it wouldn't have been. The only thing you could have done differently at that point would have been to say "I wasn't comfortable giving you a key, because I feel that you don't respect my privacy. Do you really want to have this arguement now, in front of everyone?" It would have given her the opportunity to walk it back without total public shaming. She was totally in the wrong, all around. Your husband is also totally in the wrong. Yes, he has the right to expect you to treat his family with respect, but respect has to go both ways. Someone walking in on you in a private moment is violating. Even if *he* doesn't feel violated, you do, and he needs to hear that, and support you. You have the right to set boundries and privacy expectations that allow you to be comfortable in your own home.

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Leigh Cauthen
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I hate to say divorce but honestly I don't see how this is going to work out for you. Not only does he not support you, he's also insanely controlling. I would get out before it's too late...aka before you have children together. I'm guessing your mil isn't someone you'd want in the delivery room, but who would push her way in anyways and your husband wouldn't do a thing about it. Then you'd have to deal with your mil disregarding your wishes with your own child for the rest of your life. If your husband doesn't put you first NOW he never will.

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Don't Look
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It’s just how it is though. We’ve all read this story. Some of us have lived it. At this point we can sit back and laugh until it isn’t funny.

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Kristy Nelson
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA! Wow, I'm sorry, but it seems to me you might have to rethink your marriage and see a counselor. It sounds like a very unhealthy and toxic family dynamic.

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ZAPanda
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Give husband an ultimatum. Either he apologises and the mother apologises or you are gone. Warn his next wife/girlfriend as well. Unacceptable. If MIL walked in on intimacy that's immediately a red flag. I'd have ejected her from the house at that point.

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Octavia Hansen
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm surprised that MIL didn't ask SON for a key. MIL probably has other problems with the wife, but she apparently doesn't go over any issues with her son. This is NOT going to get any better with age . . . and I'd change ALL the locks TODAY!

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K Witmer
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He learned to have temper tantrums and to push people boundaries from his whacky mother. She's going to have a lot of problems w him and his family if he's already doing this.

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LRevello
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When you act like a child (like the MIL) you deserve to be treated like a child. Trust & respect are EARNED. No key or I'd get a divorce. You married him, not his crazy mother. Clearly she has no boundaries and is mentally unstable. She was the one who created the scene by publicly calling YOU out during a holiday. SHE wanted a fuss. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

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Zoe's Mom
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

But I would take it that she was this way all along. Not blaming the OP but this was toxic way before she married him and Mama's Boy isn't putting his foot down and having his wife's back. Houston, we have a problem.

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Yayaboobo
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It doesn't matter whether you two were being intimate, that's not the point. No one should be in your home unannounced.

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Lara Verne
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Oh nope. Her husband is an asshole as well as his mother. Get away from that family.

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Patti Vance
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

never gave my sil a key or any other of his family for that matter. our old house had the washer and dryer in the basement so you had to walk out of the living area, across the small enclosed porch area and down the steps. when alone & doing laundry sometimes would not wear a robe as...i'm in my own house. now, i will admit that my night clothes are from frederick's of hollywood but they were kind of skimpy. came up one day to see my two nephews, ages 10 and 12 w/their mom on the porch. told her that unless she wanted her boys to get early female anatomy lessons she needed to learn how to knock or call before coming over. my ex got upset because 'their family'. too freaking bad. my parents lived next door on one side; my son lives on the other side after we broke up. in over a decade they never have walked into my house without calling first to let me know they were coming over.

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Stannous Flouride
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The third comment above (the list) hits every nail on the head. IMHO Those nails should be driven into the coffin of the relationship.

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Daria Z
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Uh... I would not want to interfere in whatever relationships this mother and son are having. Don't wanna be a third wheel 🙃

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Lucie B Gendreau
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Do yourself a favor and lose the husband and the mother-in-law!!! Who needs that aggravation?!? It will only get worse!! Time to start fresh in a new healthy relationship minus the MIL baggage!

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S
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Don't stress it girl, there are plenty of decent men still left in the world. You'll find another one. I'm sure we would all pitch in to throw you a divorce party lol

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Rench
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My MIL has never had, nor ever will have a key to anything I own. It seems unnecessary to me. We leave our doors unlocked until we go to bed or when we leave. In the 30+ years that I have been with my wife, there has never been a time when she needed one.

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Suzanne Clark
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sooooo not acceptable. He needs to grow up and tell Mommy he's not the baby anymore, and start acting like an adult and more importantly, YOUR HUSBAND!

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Nicholas Yu
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Looks like you've got to divorce your momma's boy of a wimpy mhusband.

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Karis Ravenhill
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA. Momma's boy. Run from this, now. First, he's fine with his mother walking in to your shared home unannounced, and when you're being intimate? The fact she did this TWICE is extremely twisted on both hers and her sons part, she seems to enjoy interrupting you both having sex (which no mother should ever want to see), and the son almost has some kind of Oedipus complex going on with his mother. This sh*t is dark. He also doesn't respect your opinion, voice, or the fact it's YOUR home too that the MIL is invading unannounced. Don't apologize, tell him he needs to get off his mother's teat, grow up and start respecting you, or you'll find someone else to replace him that doesn't have such a twisted relationship with his mother at his age.

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Beth Gietl
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My in laws did something like that. They waited until we left for a vacation. They had the key to check on the sump pump in case it rained. It didn't. But they came into the house, went to the basement and my MIL went through things and borrowed items for a luncheon she was hosting. Never said a word about it until she finally returned the items after her party. I was livid, but hubby thought it was OK.

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Lily
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Simply put, MIL is a liar. And that the husband defends her repeated invasions of privacy is despicable.

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Isabella
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't even understand WHY on Earth did she married this guy? it was obvious before tying the knot, that he has issues and will not change magically after the wedding.

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blatherskitenoir
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think her one mistake was confessing it was on purpose. She should have said "huh, sorry, must have gotten the wrong key copied, or maybe they messed it up...by the way, wtf were you doing in my house? I'm going to have to ask you give the fake key back, and not expect a new one."

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Eiram
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wow. He basically accused you of everything his mother actually did. I would find a neutral friend to help talk to him about his mother issues. The red flag was him not caring when she interrupted you guys TWICE.

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Animalsrgreat
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Well played on your part! She doesn't need a key to your house, and besides being a old brat, she has proven she can't be trusted. I'm afraid you've married a mama's boy, and you will never be his priority.

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Andrei Caldararu
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If there's at least another person present, you always take your SO's side, regardless of what you actually think - that can be shared later, in private

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Renita McAfee
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Good luck f*****g for your husband's mom's enjoyment. Not saying this lightly. I dated someone who's mom had a history of walking in on her son with his girlfriends and I noted out the first time she did it to me. He would also blame the gf.....after his mom called us tramps for sleeping with him. Should have left the first time, she gets off on it.

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deanna woods
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

For my family, it wasn't my grandmother, it was my two aunts. My aunts were my dad's sister and they treated my mom so horribly. It doesn't happen anymore, but it did happen for a very long time. This husband's behavior is worrisome and the OP needs to consider if she wants to stay married to this man.

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Diane Knight
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If she has a 'working' key, tell him no 'nookie' unless there's an alarm installed and activated during those times.

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Teri Roberts
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Been there done that. My husband always thought I was exaggerating when angst or issues came up between his mother and myself. So I stopped telling him. The first time he saw it for himself, he confronted her and made her leave. Your husband is married to you, not his mother. You have to decide if you want her to come first and if he is capable of putting you and your marriage first.

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Marty Sunderland
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA!!! MIL outed herself! She chose to bring it up then thinking she had plenty of backing. She ruined the meal, and her son will let her ruin your marriage and the rest of your life. Give her your key when you pack up and move to a place where you can have peace and privacy.

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SilverSkyCloud
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

why do people marry / stay with people like this? how desperate are they to stay in these relationships??????? p.s im not talking about relationships where one partner is too scared to leave thats completely different

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Shruti Patel
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Give her the key n install cameras. Their kind would even snoop to see if you are using protection or pills.

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GhostReflection
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Did anyone else notice that the top comment was written by "you'retheAH"

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Katinka Min
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They all sound rather immature. If your mother in law walks in on you unannaounced you straight out tell her, you are not giving her a key!! You don't play stupid games in your midthirties. And you better don't buy a house with someone you've only known for a year and who has an oedipus complex!

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Random Anon
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The husband needs to be the illustration for the phrase "mamma's boy".

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Pete Häkkinen
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In their own words she can't help it so since she lacks self-control you must do it for her by not giving her access. If he doesn't get it get a divorce.

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maper sam
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

why did she give her the key in the first place? I don't get it. why not just say no.

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Frannie Kaplan
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

First mistake is you married the husband. Narc mother feels no guilt with her son enabling her like that. I will never ever ever marry some one like this. It's like 2 mistakes for the price of 1.

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Mike Loux
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Lawyer up, OP. Kick him to the curb. He's a loser and it will only get worse over time.

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Lin B
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Definitely NTA, but she has a real husband problem. The husband should have been the one to tell his mother she didn’t need, and wasn’t getting, a key to their house.

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Imogene Cargeaux
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wait what? "She had a smug on her face after I hand delivered it to her" But in the sentence before OP said that she sent her a key.... hmmm? Which is it dude. I think someone may have changed a few details in the real story n forgot to proofread.

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Katherine Dobias
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would like to know what she thinks she will find by snooping in the house. Give her sometime and she will get bored of going into the house. She'll just stop doing it on her own. I personally wouldn't aggravate the situation even further. Sometimes people fight back just because you're fighting them, if you stop they'll stop too just give it some time. The fire will burn out on its own if you stop feeding it.

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Gerard Neaux
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If she has kids with him, she's going to be abused. Like it's happened already but worse since she'll have less choices to pack her bags.

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OhForSmegSake
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I moved in with a Mama's Boy whose Mama had a key to his house. We came home from a day out to find her washing dishes and it was obvious that she had been in our bedroom "tidying the drawers" (snooping). I asked that he take her emergency key back bc she had crossed a line, especially since we were both at-home nudists and very kink friendly so what was in those drawers was extremely personal. He took the key off of her in front of me but, I later found out, gave her another behind my back. He also got upset when I gave an emergency key to a trusted friend of mine who I knew would not violate our privacy as he "didn't want a stranger being able to wander into his house w***y-nilly". We didn't last long after that.

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Glen MacLeod
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I hope you don't have children. If not, get out before it happens, otherwise you will have his mother in your life FOR-EV-ER. As for your husaband....nothing wrong with him a spine implant wouldn't cure. He's not a grown up man.

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Eric Mesh
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2 years ago

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OP, while the lesser fault, is still a deceptor. A sitdown with a mediator/ therapist for all three to understand why MIL thinks her behavior is acceptable, and give the OP some power in objectivity and authority to put MIL and husband in place, set boundaries, and consequences for breaking them. Of course, all easier said than done.

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Alejandro Vega
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Sorry but you the A, you don't get to complaint if you choose to marry a mommas boy!

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Liam Walsh
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My father sulked - massively. He kept it hidden until after the wedding. Controlling types hide what they don't want you to see until they think it is too late.

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Homer Jay
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The old womani may be a pain in the back but, why humiliating people? If humiliation was the correct answer and solved problems, then why we have jails instead of humiliation houses

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Otter
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2 years ago (edited)

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I have mixed feelings. Yes the MIL is The Asshole, big time,, but the OP could have left it at "...but you said you'd only use the key for an emergency", and let the family work out the implications on their own. It's not nice to "gotcha" at Christmas dinner, unless it's someone who loves gotcha games.

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Homer Jay
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Or making her think that in case of emergency the key works

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YTA. What you did was basically give a pack of needles to an addict. I mean yeah she shouldn't have been given one regardless but the method used and posting it here was for your ego. Given your SO's behavior you knew in advance how this would go and honestly he should divorce you. The fallout is your fault and your no better than that kid feeding toothpaste Oreos to the homeless for online views. That being said it's still funny as hell!

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Mark Pho
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2 years ago (edited)

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You're both AH's. Seriously. Where do you get off lying to your family member? What ever happened to simple communication? "My dear MIL. I love you, but really don't want repeats of incidence like when you walk in on us in the middle of our most intimate moments." And what if there was an emergency? You would have screwed yourself and your MIL with that fake key. Honest, straight forward and non-accusatory communication would have solved this without the drama. Hopefully all is being forgiven. Your husband is also the AH, by the way. But you definitely are too.

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Lucie B Gendreau
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You are obviously missing the point of the story!! The MIL is violating the boundaries of the marriage!!

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YTA. You could ve given no keys and not post all family quarrels online. But you chose to create a situation with only negative outcomes. Either your mil used it outside of emergency as now, or either she awaited the first emergency and noticed your clever scheme caused somebodys dead by late treatment. ... But what do you say, your mil is An A too. Sure she is but that's outside of your control. You only control your own A-hole-dom

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