Mom Shuts Down Person Calling Her Daughter Working In Fast Food A “Hero”, Says She’s A Slave
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The coronavirus pandemic is setting some people on edge. Especially those who are still working in the real world and are at risk of catching Covid-19.
When talk show host Ellen DeGeneres made a joke about how the coronavirus quarantine is like jail, she made a lot of her fans angry. “One thing that I’ve learned from being in quarantine is that this is like being in jail. It’s mostly because I’ve been wearing the same clothes for 10 days and everyone in here is gay,” she said.
One woman to call Ellen out on Twitter said that the celebrity should try working her daughter’s fast food job without any protective equipment. When celebrity expert Mike Sington told the mother that her daughter is a hero, she lost it and replied that the 19-year-old is a “slave to capitalism” and a “sacrifice demanded by the elites.” Scroll down for Bored Panda’s interview with Mike.
When Ellen DeGeneres made a joke about quarantine being like jail, a lot of her fans got angry at her
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According to celebrity expert and former NBCUniversal Senior Executive Mike, he got the humor behind the joke, but he knew that Ellen’s joke would backfire on her. “We’ve all seen the luxurious mansions she’s bought, so no one is going to feel sorry for her. Then she equates being gay with being in prison, which I think she thought she could get away with, being gay herself.”
“All that being said, it’s a joke that misfired. She’s involved in many charitable endeavors and gives away millions of dollars. I think people came down on her very hard, but Twitter has a pile-on mentality, and people are obviously stressed out now,” Mike told Bored Panda.
Plenty of people called Ellen out for her “tone-deaf” joke
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Mike says that he believes some celebrities are living in a bubble. “Spare us the shots of you self-isolating in your mansions. Now is truly not the time for this while so many are suffering. Many are on their own now, are bored, they aren’t being shot by the paparazzi, and they want to stay relevant. Currently, they don’t have staff saying you shouldn’t post that’.”
As for why so many people got angry at Ellen’s post, Mike thinks that “they’re literally climbing the walls now stuck at home or working under hazardous conditions.”
“Many celebrities seem entitled and out-of-touch right now, it’s impossible to relate to them under the current conditions. They should just lay low.”
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According to Mike, there should be a new rule where people don’t make any jokes about the pandemic. “I don’t think they should be censored, but use common sense,” the celebrity expert said. “We need entertainment though, so if celebrities want to produce entertaining content for us online, that’s great. The late-night hosts have been particularly adept at this—funny, without being offensive.”
“Also, Ellen’s ‘brand’ is ‘be kind’. She really crossed the line there with her stereotypical prison joke. Some comics could have gotten away with it. She should have known better,” he added.
One woman shared how her daughter who works in the fast food industry is exposed every day
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She pointed out that her daughter isn’t a “hero” but a “slave”
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Not everyone agreed with the mother’s message. Some people obviously supported her and her daughter. Others thought that the mother was being overly dramatic, shouldn’t use words like “slave,” and said that there’s no real alternative to working for a living.
While a few people also pointed out that her daughter can’t be called a sacrifice for the elites if she’s helping provide fast food to ordinary folks.
However, the mother wasn’t the only person mad at 62-year-old Ellen. Some people said that Ellen’s joke about jail was “tone-deaf,” considering that the US is seeing more and more prison inmates testing positive for Covid-19.
While this “at-home edition” of her talk show was received poorly, Ellen’s previous quarantine videos were much more successful. Ellen’s wife Portia de Rossi is her camera operator and director while their dog Augie is key grip.
This isn’t the first time that celebrities have seen backlashes for what they do in self-isolation. For instance, actress Gal Gadot got quite a bit of heat for posting a video of her and other stars singing John Lennon’s Imagine. Some people pointed out that celebrities singing doesn’t really help anyone.
Here’s how some people reacted to the mother’s comments
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This abuse of the word "hero" is beyond annoying. Call someone a hero, and then it seems you can ask them anything: to work in a hospital or in a fast food without protection, to endanger themselves, to go to a war zone and return traumatized and with no health care... but hey, we call them heroes, so that's the best reward.
YES!! So many people just don’t even want to be called a hero, what they want is to go home to there families and be safe. But just like this woman’s daughter, they get stuck in horrible, stressful, low-paying jobs made even worse by the fact that we are in the middle of a PANDEMIC and they get little to no PPE. And we just say, “well, they’re HEROS” and just think that’s enough compensation for the heartache and misery they’re going through!!!!!!!!!!
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I hate it when us low paid workers are told how great we are instead of given safety equipment and a proper wage
The minimum wage has not been raised in the U.S. in over ten years. Meanwhile, the costs of housing, food, clothes, medical care, etc. have all gone up. People have been fighting like pit bulls on angel dust to have it raised to a living wage, or at least above the pathetic 7.25/hr it is. But what happens whenever people scream for a decent minimum wage? The 1%'s stooges belch propaganda about robotized restaurants and $20 tacos. It's easy for them to be snarky when they're not working 60, 70, even 80 hours a week at multiple part-time jobs and still subsisting on beans and rice while wearing thrift-shop clothes.
You push for $15 minimum wage and then lose your job thats 100% on you. There shouldn't be a minimum wage at all! You should get paid what your worth. You don't have a right to make enough money as a cashier at McDonalds to buy a house, a car and raise a family! Get real!
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Instead of sniping at each other over wording, why not make a mask for the next "essential employee" you encounter? Or give them gloves? Or give them a large tip? That 19 year old girl is not helped by anyone who is currently arguing over the word "hero" or yelling at the elites. She may be helped by someone who gives her a mask.
Everyday help is vital right now. Though campaigning for change - that is necessary too.
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I agree with the person who said: If she's a hero, then pay her like one.
Lara, whose fault is it that the government is soulless in democratic system? While rich, and people like Vanities, are disciplined and vote, those voters which could benefit from pro-labor representation, don't bother to vote; there's no excuse not to vote.
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This virus is really showing us the underbelly of our broken system, isn't it.
I am an essential employee and I feel everything that this woman is saying. I am also immunocompromised and yet I still have to come to work or I can't pay my bills. Instead of calling us heroes, raise our pay or let us be at home like everyone else. No one needs to eat out everyday. And on the argument that this is the work I chose: In our small town there are only so many jobs and the good ones are taken.
There are so many reasons why people can have their choices or options limited - people need to stop judging. The morally compromised over paid people at the top need to pay their key workers properly. I hope you stay safe deanna.
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Grocery stores are essential. But fast food? Gloves and mask are necessary items, how can employees work without it? Employer didn't gave them any, or are they suppossed to bring their own?
I work at a grocery store, therefore we're essential. Every single day I see people come in just to walk around because they're bored at home. There's nothing heroic about working as an essential worker. I have four kids at home. Not working is not an option. Working during all this crazy is my only option.
While I understand the mother's argument that her daughter is stuck..so are a lot of other people. Truckers that are forced to transport goods from one under-infected area to an area riddled with cases because people can't learn to control their buying and hoarding. But those truckers have no place to cook or get supplies..so they need grocery store or fast food joints to eat. Then there are the other poor people stuck living in motels and hotels with no way to cook and no food service...so they need those stores and restaurants too. This isn't just the elite needing these people to work...it's also people struggling with where to get their next meal from day to day.
wait.. if her daughter sacrifice herself, is it what heroes do? sacrifice themself..
....wait, she doesn't want to "sacrifice" herself, she have to work, she doesn't have a choice.
Load More Replies... It's a problem I've been having with all this. I'm an essential worker, auto mechanic. We have put polices in place to minimize risk but still, it's a risk. I see they're trying to pass a bill to give $25k seemingly only to healthcare workers. In no way do I imply that are not directly in the line of fire. They are truly essential. They are at enormous risk. There are also all those driving trucks to get supplies to the hospitals, stores and whatever else is open. There are the fast food workers that are making your food because you're tired of cooking. There is a ton of people still out there braving exposure to keep things running. What about them? If it's such a risk, why are the most important, those keeping things going, called essential yet it feels a bit like cannon fodder. Are we essential or expendable?
I'm sorry but I've grown immune to American insanity. Billionaires sacking people because otherwise they wouldn't be able to recover from this crisis? People having to work without the company providing any means of protection? An administration insisting that everything is all right while New York is digging a mass grave? Rich people making fun of poor people struggling with a pandemic by singing a song? Yep. it's the great U.S. of A. You all created that society, deal with it. Sorry, not sorry. Perhaps Corona will finally reveal how inhuman the American society has grown.
I am still going to do patient advocacy, unpaid, volunteer, as I have for yaers ---- and my PPE right now is what I can find at home (and a mask I sewed and wash every day). Yep. We make do when we must. It's what is needed to help others, that's the job/calling. BUT... Be heroic enough to nto run to th estore, or the pizza place, or religious services "b/c I can and it's essential to *me*." You're a vector for a virus doing that. Stay home. Please. Medical personnel and adjacent personnel cannot go home until everyone else has stayed there long enough...
A lot of us are technically "slaves" who are still working. I'm 9 months pregnant and I have to work still. If you care stop voting for people like Trump and other likeminded capitalist/oligarch pigs.
She’s not a hero or a slave, she’s a person who has to work to survive, like most people. A slave can be beaten, raped, and sold at their owner’s whims. They aren’t paid. They are the property of another person.
People don't quite understand what we are trying to accomplish by stay-at-home orders, and therefore don't understand the exceptions. The daughter is neither a slave nor a hero. She's just someone who might get the virus earlier than others. We'll all get it eventually (barring some miracle). We just want to not all get it AT ONE TIME. So, she will get it let's say next week, but I'll get it in a couple of months since I'm working from home. Her life is no more at risk than mine. I don't understand why people don't understand what the mitigation techniques are actually for. They don't save lives by keeping people from getting the virus. It's saving lives by not overwhelming the hospitals so that anyone getting sick has the same chance of survival as anyone else (rather than being turned away due to overcapacity).
Marnie, if you are working from home, you might get never infected, for the most part it depends on you; how can you say that "her life is no more at risk" than yours? I don't believe that every single person will be infected as you implied; the life style, diet, and strong or weak immune system of every single individual makes a huge difference, as that's all what we have right now against this virus.
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It's nonsense like this that makes me believe we are getting exactly what we deserve-covid-19. Humans have used, misused, abused and stabbed each other in the back to get what they want for too long. covid-19 could thin the heard, if not the entire population, isolation alone is giving Mother Earth a chance to heal and proving that vulnerable people in society still have great value as people and will force us to appreciate the "little guy" far more than we ever have before. Hopefully, those that survive this come out of it with a far better appreciation of what we have and the ability to appreciate everyone and everything. Even if it is not the apocalypse, it should be a huge and sobering wake up call that ripples through every level of society on the planet.
Lisa, the emergence of this virus, all previous ones, and the future ones is NOT the result of that "humans have used, misused, abused and stabbed each other in the back...." but because humans have used, misused, abuse, unimaginably tortured, heinously killed and destroyed every single animal species -every single sentient being there is on this planet "to get what they want..." some more than others, some not at all. It would be just if Covid19 "could thin the heard, if not the entire population" because it seems to be only possibility to save our planet, since humanity did never ever learned from its own mistakes and, most likely will not cease to self-destruct.
Load More Replies... ....the reality is forcing her to work, Tres.
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I am working remotely, I set up a home office in a spare, bought new monitors and an office chair, have two computers so I can be in a meeting on one, have emails and inbox on another. All I could think was just a few years ago I would not be in this privileged position. Our work load has increased dramatically because we review and approve medical studies on human subjects and now have around 50 studies that are COVID related. I work into the night and weekends to get them through the review process and approved. I am incredibly grateful to be in the position I am in. In a nice home office, working remotely, and plenty of work to do. I have said a thousand times you could triple my salary and I would not go back to working fast food. I mean that more now than ever.
To add to my list 7. Work in a mid-market or up hotel. One of my exes never stepped foot on a college campus, came from parents who were broke like a joke. But she was a front desk mgr. of an upper-middle market hotel, made $18/hr. How?! How?! When there are moustache-twirling plutocrats who hate poor people?! Well, she had worked in other hotels, starting out in the lowest level gigs, kept doing a good job, over some years, wended her way up the ranks. Usually they'd never promote, say, a cleaning crew person up into mgmt. ranks at most hotels. But they do promote good workers who start out, say, as a general front desk associate. Is that unfair? Probably. But we all know that, so think about that: Is the road I'm on one that leads anywhere decent?
Accessible ways a person w/ 0 college ed. can make WAY more than the min. wage: 1. Warehouse or call center (usually starts @ $13/hr). 2. Car or aptmt sales (if you can sell, some salespeople make six figs - no college). 3. Receptionist/Paralegal (some lawyers let people paralegal w/ no cert., who still eventually make $50k). 4. Become busser or bar-back at mid-market or better restaurant and/or bar. Do a good job, wait & a waiter or bartender eventually quits, now their gig is yours, w/ tips min. $30k, sometimes over $50k. 5. Construction laborer (would start at least at $12/hr, many raises if you keep working well). 6. Home health aide (usually starts at $15/hr). Instead of being upset about employers who don't offer you a good deal, look around, find the employers who do. All of this, assuming no higher ed. is possible. Now (picture Morpheus in the pure white light): "What if I told you, that some people from modest upbringings HAVE graduated from college & trade school?"
It's amazing how people go from 0-to-100 on anger and accusation and lashing out. Perhaps free online classes in stress reduction and anger management are needed. I could use it!
A joke. Poor timing.. lack of sensitivity when 1000s of people are dying... not particularly funny anyway...
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No worker is essential. The service is. Unless you're some absolute genius (I'm talking Stephen Hawking level) who can offer skills and knowledge that can't be easily learned/replicated, you can be let go in a heartbeat. That includes medical workers. That's the U.S. way. I get "kudos" from my boss and great performance reviews. But I know I'm only there until they can find someone better...
Her daughter should get or have gotten a proper education so she would not have to take a minimum wage job. The choice is hers, slaves did not have a choice, so you are belittling slavery.
So people with learning difficulties or mental health issues, possibly disabilities of various forms - these people who may not be able to get a 'proper education' should be denied a living wage? What an inhumane attitude so many people have. These staff members still have bills to pay, they still need to eat. If a company can't afford to pay its entry level staff properly they have a flawed business model and a morally bankrupt soul running the place. I am so glad that executive salaries are being investigated in the UK and that there are moves to prevent companies from paying staff properly. Kudos to all the companies that don't act like evil bastards and do the right thing... and yet still manage to turn amazing profits.
Load More Replies... An analogy to crappy min. wage jobs (of which I've worked several - many, many thousands of min. & low wage hours I've done, so don't try to claim that c**p on me): Say you're dating someone, they're willing to see you & fool around, but they don't respect you, don't want to commit. What to do? Probably, if you want something healthy and longterm, you'll have to leave them and seek someone else. Maybe you love them and they don't love you (I've been there, on both ends of that). But if that's the case you probably can't change it. Instead of howling in frustration that the situation sucks or trying to make someone love or respect you, find another situation.
Companies have rules around how they work, how much they pay, how much time people can take as annual leave - they are full of rules, rules that can be changed to improve people's situations. Relationships come along without rules and then you make them up as you go along, to suit the people involved. People may be stuck and only able to take on a certain type of job but the pay should enable them to meet their basic needs. Relationships don't need to meet any needs whatsoever - no requirements. Can just be a laugh. A job can be a laugh but it still needs to provide a wage so that people can eat and have shelter. You can make it sound like a reasonable comparison but doesn't make it true.
Load More Replies... I do get the point you are making CbusResident but there still shouldn't be a starting salary in any industry that isn't a genuine living wage. Whether or not warehouses or call centres pay more isn't really the point. It isn't about progression either - people at the 'bottom' need to be able to live. Not all of them are going to be young people starting out and still living at home with mum and dad. Life can be complicated, people's reasons for doing what they do, or for being where they are, can be complicated. None of it should be stymied by jobs being paid so very badly.
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This abuse of the word "hero" is beyond annoying. Call someone a hero, and then it seems you can ask them anything: to work in a hospital or in a fast food without protection, to endanger themselves, to go to a war zone and return traumatized and with no health care... but hey, we call them heroes, so that's the best reward.
YES!! So many people just don’t even want to be called a hero, what they want is to go home to there families and be safe. But just like this woman’s daughter, they get stuck in horrible, stressful, low-paying jobs made even worse by the fact that we are in the middle of a PANDEMIC and they get little to no PPE. And we just say, “well, they’re HEROS” and just think that’s enough compensation for the heartache and misery they’re going through!!!!!!!!!!
Load More Replies... I hate it when us low paid workers are told how great we are instead of given safety equipment and a proper wage
The minimum wage has not been raised in the U.S. in over ten years. Meanwhile, the costs of housing, food, clothes, medical care, etc. have all gone up. People have been fighting like pit bulls on angel dust to have it raised to a living wage, or at least above the pathetic 7.25/hr it is. But what happens whenever people scream for a decent minimum wage? The 1%'s stooges belch propaganda about robotized restaurants and $20 tacos. It's easy for them to be snarky when they're not working 60, 70, even 80 hours a week at multiple part-time jobs and still subsisting on beans and rice while wearing thrift-shop clothes.
You push for $15 minimum wage and then lose your job thats 100% on you. There shouldn't be a minimum wage at all! You should get paid what your worth. You don't have a right to make enough money as a cashier at McDonalds to buy a house, a car and raise a family! Get real!
Load More Replies... Instead of sniping at each other over wording, why not make a mask for the next "essential employee" you encounter? Or give them gloves? Or give them a large tip? That 19 year old girl is not helped by anyone who is currently arguing over the word "hero" or yelling at the elites. She may be helped by someone who gives her a mask.
Everyday help is vital right now. Though campaigning for change - that is necessary too.
Load More Replies... I agree with the person who said: If she's a hero, then pay her like one.
Lara, whose fault is it that the government is soulless in democratic system? While rich, and people like Vanities, are disciplined and vote, those voters which could benefit from pro-labor representation, don't bother to vote; there's no excuse not to vote.
Load More Replies... This virus is really showing us the underbelly of our broken system, isn't it.
I am an essential employee and I feel everything that this woman is saying. I am also immunocompromised and yet I still have to come to work or I can't pay my bills. Instead of calling us heroes, raise our pay or let us be at home like everyone else. No one needs to eat out everyday. And on the argument that this is the work I chose: In our small town there are only so many jobs and the good ones are taken.
There are so many reasons why people can have their choices or options limited - people need to stop judging. The morally compromised over paid people at the top need to pay their key workers properly. I hope you stay safe deanna.
Load More Replies... Grocery stores are essential. But fast food? Gloves and mask are necessary items, how can employees work without it? Employer didn't gave them any, or are they suppossed to bring their own?
I work at a grocery store, therefore we're essential. Every single day I see people come in just to walk around because they're bored at home. There's nothing heroic about working as an essential worker. I have four kids at home. Not working is not an option. Working during all this crazy is my only option.
While I understand the mother's argument that her daughter is stuck..so are a lot of other people. Truckers that are forced to transport goods from one under-infected area to an area riddled with cases because people can't learn to control their buying and hoarding. But those truckers have no place to cook or get supplies..so they need grocery store or fast food joints to eat. Then there are the other poor people stuck living in motels and hotels with no way to cook and no food service...so they need those stores and restaurants too. This isn't just the elite needing these people to work...it's also people struggling with where to get their next meal from day to day.
wait.. if her daughter sacrifice herself, is it what heroes do? sacrifice themself..
....wait, she doesn't want to "sacrifice" herself, she have to work, she doesn't have a choice.
Load More Replies... It's a problem I've been having with all this. I'm an essential worker, auto mechanic. We have put polices in place to minimize risk but still, it's a risk. I see they're trying to pass a bill to give $25k seemingly only to healthcare workers. In no way do I imply that are not directly in the line of fire. They are truly essential. They are at enormous risk. There are also all those driving trucks to get supplies to the hospitals, stores and whatever else is open. There are the fast food workers that are making your food because you're tired of cooking. There is a ton of people still out there braving exposure to keep things running. What about them? If it's such a risk, why are the most important, those keeping things going, called essential yet it feels a bit like cannon fodder. Are we essential or expendable?
I'm sorry but I've grown immune to American insanity. Billionaires sacking people because otherwise they wouldn't be able to recover from this crisis? People having to work without the company providing any means of protection? An administration insisting that everything is all right while New York is digging a mass grave? Rich people making fun of poor people struggling with a pandemic by singing a song? Yep. it's the great U.S. of A. You all created that society, deal with it. Sorry, not sorry. Perhaps Corona will finally reveal how inhuman the American society has grown.
I am still going to do patient advocacy, unpaid, volunteer, as I have for yaers ---- and my PPE right now is what I can find at home (and a mask I sewed and wash every day). Yep. We make do when we must. It's what is needed to help others, that's the job/calling. BUT... Be heroic enough to nto run to th estore, or the pizza place, or religious services "b/c I can and it's essential to *me*." You're a vector for a virus doing that. Stay home. Please. Medical personnel and adjacent personnel cannot go home until everyone else has stayed there long enough...
A lot of us are technically "slaves" who are still working. I'm 9 months pregnant and I have to work still. If you care stop voting for people like Trump and other likeminded capitalist/oligarch pigs.
She’s not a hero or a slave, she’s a person who has to work to survive, like most people. A slave can be beaten, raped, and sold at their owner’s whims. They aren’t paid. They are the property of another person.
People don't quite understand what we are trying to accomplish by stay-at-home orders, and therefore don't understand the exceptions. The daughter is neither a slave nor a hero. She's just someone who might get the virus earlier than others. We'll all get it eventually (barring some miracle). We just want to not all get it AT ONE TIME. So, she will get it let's say next week, but I'll get it in a couple of months since I'm working from home. Her life is no more at risk than mine. I don't understand why people don't understand what the mitigation techniques are actually for. They don't save lives by keeping people from getting the virus. It's saving lives by not overwhelming the hospitals so that anyone getting sick has the same chance of survival as anyone else (rather than being turned away due to overcapacity).
Marnie, if you are working from home, you might get never infected, for the most part it depends on you; how can you say that "her life is no more at risk" than yours? I don't believe that every single person will be infected as you implied; the life style, diet, and strong or weak immune system of every single individual makes a huge difference, as that's all what we have right now against this virus.
Load More Replies... It's nonsense like this that makes me believe we are getting exactly what we deserve-covid-19. Humans have used, misused, abused and stabbed each other in the back to get what they want for too long. covid-19 could thin the heard, if not the entire population, isolation alone is giving Mother Earth a chance to heal and proving that vulnerable people in society still have great value as people and will force us to appreciate the "little guy" far more than we ever have before. Hopefully, those that survive this come out of it with a far better appreciation of what we have and the ability to appreciate everyone and everything. Even if it is not the apocalypse, it should be a huge and sobering wake up call that ripples through every level of society on the planet.
Lisa, the emergence of this virus, all previous ones, and the future ones is NOT the result of that "humans have used, misused, abused and stabbed each other in the back...." but because humans have used, misused, abuse, unimaginably tortured, heinously killed and destroyed every single animal species -every single sentient being there is on this planet "to get what they want..." some more than others, some not at all. It would be just if Covid19 "could thin the heard, if not the entire population" because it seems to be only possibility to save our planet, since humanity did never ever learned from its own mistakes and, most likely will not cease to self-destruct.
Load More Replies... ....the reality is forcing her to work, Tres.
Load More Replies... I am working remotely, I set up a home office in a spare, bought new monitors and an office chair, have two computers so I can be in a meeting on one, have emails and inbox on another. All I could think was just a few years ago I would not be in this privileged position. Our work load has increased dramatically because we review and approve medical studies on human subjects and now have around 50 studies that are COVID related. I work into the night and weekends to get them through the review process and approved. I am incredibly grateful to be in the position I am in. In a nice home office, working remotely, and plenty of work to do. I have said a thousand times you could triple my salary and I would not go back to working fast food. I mean that more now than ever.
To add to my list 7. Work in a mid-market or up hotel. One of my exes never stepped foot on a college campus, came from parents who were broke like a joke. But she was a front desk mgr. of an upper-middle market hotel, made $18/hr. How?! How?! When there are moustache-twirling plutocrats who hate poor people?! Well, she had worked in other hotels, starting out in the lowest level gigs, kept doing a good job, over some years, wended her way up the ranks. Usually they'd never promote, say, a cleaning crew person up into mgmt. ranks at most hotels. But they do promote good workers who start out, say, as a general front desk associate. Is that unfair? Probably. But we all know that, so think about that: Is the road I'm on one that leads anywhere decent?
Accessible ways a person w/ 0 college ed. can make WAY more than the min. wage: 1. Warehouse or call center (usually starts @ $13/hr). 2. Car or aptmt sales (if you can sell, some salespeople make six figs - no college). 3. Receptionist/Paralegal (some lawyers let people paralegal w/ no cert., who still eventually make $50k). 4. Become busser or bar-back at mid-market or better restaurant and/or bar. Do a good job, wait & a waiter or bartender eventually quits, now their gig is yours, w/ tips min. $30k, sometimes over $50k. 5. Construction laborer (would start at least at $12/hr, many raises if you keep working well). 6. Home health aide (usually starts at $15/hr). Instead of being upset about employers who don't offer you a good deal, look around, find the employers who do. All of this, assuming no higher ed. is possible. Now (picture Morpheus in the pure white light): "What if I told you, that some people from modest upbringings HAVE graduated from college & trade school?"
It's amazing how people go from 0-to-100 on anger and accusation and lashing out. Perhaps free online classes in stress reduction and anger management are needed. I could use it!
A joke. Poor timing.. lack of sensitivity when 1000s of people are dying... not particularly funny anyway...
Load More Replies... No worker is essential. The service is. Unless you're some absolute genius (I'm talking Stephen Hawking level) who can offer skills and knowledge that can't be easily learned/replicated, you can be let go in a heartbeat. That includes medical workers. That's the U.S. way. I get "kudos" from my boss and great performance reviews. But I know I'm only there until they can find someone better...
Her daughter should get or have gotten a proper education so she would not have to take a minimum wage job. The choice is hers, slaves did not have a choice, so you are belittling slavery.
So people with learning difficulties or mental health issues, possibly disabilities of various forms - these people who may not be able to get a 'proper education' should be denied a living wage? What an inhumane attitude so many people have. These staff members still have bills to pay, they still need to eat. If a company can't afford to pay its entry level staff properly they have a flawed business model and a morally bankrupt soul running the place. I am so glad that executive salaries are being investigated in the UK and that there are moves to prevent companies from paying staff properly. Kudos to all the companies that don't act like evil bastards and do the right thing... and yet still manage to turn amazing profits.
Load More Replies... An analogy to crappy min. wage jobs (of which I've worked several - many, many thousands of min. & low wage hours I've done, so don't try to claim that c**p on me): Say you're dating someone, they're willing to see you & fool around, but they don't respect you, don't want to commit. What to do? Probably, if you want something healthy and longterm, you'll have to leave them and seek someone else. Maybe you love them and they don't love you (I've been there, on both ends of that). But if that's the case you probably can't change it. Instead of howling in frustration that the situation sucks or trying to make someone love or respect you, find another situation.
Companies have rules around how they work, how much they pay, how much time people can take as annual leave - they are full of rules, rules that can be changed to improve people's situations. Relationships come along without rules and then you make them up as you go along, to suit the people involved. People may be stuck and only able to take on a certain type of job but the pay should enable them to meet their basic needs. Relationships don't need to meet any needs whatsoever - no requirements. Can just be a laugh. A job can be a laugh but it still needs to provide a wage so that people can eat and have shelter. You can make it sound like a reasonable comparison but doesn't make it true.
Load More Replies... I do get the point you are making CbusResident but there still shouldn't be a starting salary in any industry that isn't a genuine living wage. Whether or not warehouses or call centres pay more isn't really the point. It isn't about progression either - people at the 'bottom' need to be able to live. Not all of them are going to be young people starting out and still living at home with mum and dad. Life can be complicated, people's reasons for doing what they do, or for being where they are, can be complicated. None of it should be stymied by jobs being paid so very badly.
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