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Karen Expects ER To Change Rules For Her As She Wants To Eat, Calls Police, Gets A Reality Check
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Karen Expects ER To Change Rules For Her As She Wants To Eat, Calls Police, Gets A Reality Check

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Let’s face facts: entitled people are some of the worst. Power tripping through life like the world owes them a favor, unleashing hellfire on anyone who dares not meet their demands, and generally just being pushy jerks. You know, Karens, basically.

One person turned to an online community to share their story of an ER patient too entitled for her own good and the outrageous demands she started making. When the hospital wouldn’t bend the rules for her, though, things really started going sideways.    

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    One woman walked into an ER, was seen to after a few hours, and given a bed, since her issues were serious enough that she needed to be admitted to the hospital

    Alt text: Karen patient arguing with ER staff while calling the cops after failing to impose her rules in the hospital emergency room

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    ER staff explain process to Karen patient who tries to impose rules and is left waiting in ER room for transfer.

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    She insisted, however, on first going home to have a shower and eat, but the staff explained to her it didn’t work that way, and she could shower and eat once admitted

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    Woman labeled as Karen trying to impose her rules on ER staff, calling cops when her demands are denied.

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    The woman ended up walking out anyway, showing up 4 hours later to demand her bed back, and then calling 911 from inside the hospital when she was refused

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    After unleashing a tirade at the officers when they explained to her that she would need to start the whole process again, the would-be patient just left

    The original poster (OP) says the chaos kicked off when one woman walked into the ER and started acting like she was checking into a hotel instead of a hospital. After driving herself in and getting evaluated, doctors determined she needed to be admitted but, instead of agreeing, she announced she was heading home for a shower and a snack.

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    Staff gently explained (multiple times) that it doesn’t work that way. Leaving meant starting the entire ER process again. She didn’t care. Without telling anyone, she just got up and walked out. Her room was cleaned, filled, and life moved on until, hours later, she strutted back in demanding her old bed like nothing happened. 

    When told (once again) she now had to wait like every other patient, she lost it. Her brilliant solution? Calling 911 (from inside the hospital) to demand police force the ER to admit her immediately. Officers arrived, listened to her rant, and calmly repeated the same message; follow the process or head home. Entitlement meets immovable reality.

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    Eventually, she stormed off again, shocked that neither doctors nor law enforcement would bend the rules to suit her. And honestly? If she could drive home, shower, eat, and come back to fight with half the city, maybe she wasn’t in that bad of shape. Goes to show that, while medical emergencies are common, entitlement just might be the toughest condition to treat.

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    Let’s be real: some people just don’t understand they’re not the main character in every situation. When they get a reality check, they literally don’t know what to do, apart from turning up their whine volume. The woman in OP’s story is straight-up entitled, but why? And what’s the best way to deal with people like her? We went looking for answers.

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    The folks over at BetterHelp break it down: some people believe that when kids are given everything, they ask for without learning how to earn it, it leads them to expect the same treatment once they grow up. On the other hand, certain personality disorders, such as narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) or antisocial personality disorder (ASPD), may lead to a sense of entitlement.  

    Although they may come across as having a strong personality or a powerful sense of self-confidence, many entitled people can suffer from personal insecurities. Their attention-seeking behavior can also isolate them from loved ones and coworkers, which can lead to further anguish.

    Arlin Cuncic from VeryWellMind explains that, while relationships with entitled people can actually grind down your own sense of self-worth, there are steps you can take to protect yourself, including practicing saying “No.”, setting firm boundaries and consequences for overstepping them, and encouraging them to problem-solve.

    Perhaps the woman in OP’s story learned a lesson, perhaps she’s still arguing at another hospital. Either way, we can’t see any ER putting up with a patient bent on breaking reality.

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    What do you think? Should the woman have been given her room back, or did she get the wake-up call she so obviously needed? Share your thoughts in the comments!

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    In the comments, readers shared their own experiences with medical events and the things they now do to prepare for them

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    Ivan Ayliffe

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    After twenty years in advertising, I've decided to try my hand at journalism. I'm lucky enough to be based in Cape Town, South Africa and use every opportunity I get to explore everything it has to offer, both indoors and out. When I'm not reading, writing, or listening to podcasts, I spend my time swimming in the ocean, running mountain trails, and skydiving. While I haven't travelled as much as I'd like, I did live in !ndia, which was an incredible experience. Oh, and I love live music. I hope you enjoy my stories!

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    I am a visual editor here. In my free time I enjoy the vibrant worlds of art galleries, exhibitions, and soulful concerts. Yet, amidst life's hustle and bustle, I find solace in nature's embrace, cherishing tranquil moments with beloved friends. Deep within, I hold a dream close - to embark on a global journey in an RV, accompanied by my faithful canine companion. Together, we'll wander through diverse cultures, weaving precious memories under the starry night sky, fulfilling the wanderlust that stirs my soul.

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    Monika Pašukonytė

    Monika Pašukonytė

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    I am a visual editor here. In my free time I enjoy the vibrant worlds of art galleries, exhibitions, and soulful concerts. Yet, amidst life's hustle and bustle, I find solace in nature's embrace, cherishing tranquil moments with beloved friends. Deep within, I hold a dream close - to embark on a global journey in an RV, accompanied by my faithful canine companion. Together, we'll wander through diverse cultures, weaving precious memories under the starry night sky, fulfilling the wanderlust that stirs my soul.

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    LongFang
    Community Member
    3 weeks ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    sheesh.... I was in tachycardia at the office, collegues forced & accompanied me to Company Medical Office. Was told she calling the firemen, cannot leave her office despite my little protest. They came, conformed taking me to ER. I said anywhere but XYZ hospital please. Why ? My ex-wife works there... One of them almost had to go to ER himself because he almost died laughing...

    Apatheist Account2
    Community Member
    3 weeks ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Some people have a real problem with not being in total control.

    Anne Roberts
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am, unfortunately, a "frequent flyer" in the hospital. During the pandemic I developed pneumonia and was surrounded in the ER by other very sick people. I waited for 11 hours. The ER had, for some reason, taken away both the snack machine and water fountain. As soon as I finally saw a doctor I broke down crying. I was sick, hungry, thirsty and exhausted. The doctor got me a drink and a sandwich and that helped a lot. I was admitted and given IV antibiotics. I never considered leaving the hospital but it sure was frustrating. Luckily I am healthy, at the moment ..

    Who? Me?
    Community Member
    3 weeks ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    FYI, most hospital security is aware of cars being left behind, just let them know and make sure they have your contact info. Was greatly relieved what I found that out.

    Anne Roberts
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My hospital is only 3 miles from home so I have driven myself many times. Luckily there is a shuttle to take you from the parking garage to the hospital if needed. I keep that phone number handy.

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    K Barnes
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Last time I was in the ER the woman next to me was being so unreasonable and making her partner miserable. She kept saying things to him like "if you really loved me you'd talk to them and make them take me in" even though she'd only been waiting 90 minutes (I was at 4.5 hours). She eventually stormed out in a huff because her partner "didn't love her enough to help her" and he followed her miserably a few minutes later. I felt awful for the guy, she was making him suffer just as much as she was.

    Michele campfens
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Most times I have been in er (cancer patient in the past) their first question is if you have eaten anything. Generally if it is a true emergency…requiring admission or surgery, eating will delay things or complicate them. This is due to reflux, aspiration and other possible complications. Going home for a shower and food clarifies that it was not a true emergency. Rather a medical episode, maybe requiring a doctors visit. Not needing emergency services and delaying treatment for those who truly need it. Old adage-Empty barrels make the most noise. Often the quiet patients are the ones who are in too much pain to raise a fuss.

    Dirk Daring
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Lost me at, "Look, there’s nothing wrong with main character energy..."

    David Paterson
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Good on her. The "that's not how it's done" rules in hospital in general and ER in particular are counterproductive.

    Mike F
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well when my right lung collapsed the ER triage system worked very well. If it wasn't done the "way it's done" I may have died laying on a gurney in a hallway while while someone was taking up space in the ER over a splinter. Just like anything else, you cannot paint everything with a broad brush.

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    Trillian
    Community Member
    3 weeks ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The police actually come for something like this???

    Beth Wheeler
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes they do and depending on what's going on the idiot patient and their behavior might get arrested. I actually saw it happen 1 time, just shook my head and laughed at their stupidity.

    Load More Replies...
    The Starsong Princess
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Have a little compassion. Unwell people under stress often don’t behave well. She likely panicked. If you are in the medical profession, it’s a waste of time to get bent out of shape at irrational patients.

    Mark Stewart
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Anything could have happened to her and nobody would have known where she was because she didn't properly sign herself out, she sounds like the type that would have sued the hospital for letting her leave and not admitting her.

    Load More Replies...
    LongFang
    Community Member
    3 weeks ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    sheesh.... I was in tachycardia at the office, collegues forced & accompanied me to Company Medical Office. Was told she calling the firemen, cannot leave her office despite my little protest. They came, conformed taking me to ER. I said anywhere but XYZ hospital please. Why ? My ex-wife works there... One of them almost had to go to ER himself because he almost died laughing...

    Apatheist Account2
    Community Member
    3 weeks ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Some people have a real problem with not being in total control.

    Anne Roberts
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am, unfortunately, a "frequent flyer" in the hospital. During the pandemic I developed pneumonia and was surrounded in the ER by other very sick people. I waited for 11 hours. The ER had, for some reason, taken away both the snack machine and water fountain. As soon as I finally saw a doctor I broke down crying. I was sick, hungry, thirsty and exhausted. The doctor got me a drink and a sandwich and that helped a lot. I was admitted and given IV antibiotics. I never considered leaving the hospital but it sure was frustrating. Luckily I am healthy, at the moment ..

    Who? Me?
    Community Member
    3 weeks ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    FYI, most hospital security is aware of cars being left behind, just let them know and make sure they have your contact info. Was greatly relieved what I found that out.

    Anne Roberts
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My hospital is only 3 miles from home so I have driven myself many times. Luckily there is a shuttle to take you from the parking garage to the hospital if needed. I keep that phone number handy.

    Load More Replies...
    K Barnes
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Last time I was in the ER the woman next to me was being so unreasonable and making her partner miserable. She kept saying things to him like "if you really loved me you'd talk to them and make them take me in" even though she'd only been waiting 90 minutes (I was at 4.5 hours). She eventually stormed out in a huff because her partner "didn't love her enough to help her" and he followed her miserably a few minutes later. I felt awful for the guy, she was making him suffer just as much as she was.

    Michele campfens
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Most times I have been in er (cancer patient in the past) their first question is if you have eaten anything. Generally if it is a true emergency…requiring admission or surgery, eating will delay things or complicate them. This is due to reflux, aspiration and other possible complications. Going home for a shower and food clarifies that it was not a true emergency. Rather a medical episode, maybe requiring a doctors visit. Not needing emergency services and delaying treatment for those who truly need it. Old adage-Empty barrels make the most noise. Often the quiet patients are the ones who are in too much pain to raise a fuss.

    Dirk Daring
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Lost me at, "Look, there’s nothing wrong with main character energy..."

    David Paterson
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Good on her. The "that's not how it's done" rules in hospital in general and ER in particular are counterproductive.

    Mike F
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well when my right lung collapsed the ER triage system worked very well. If it wasn't done the "way it's done" I may have died laying on a gurney in a hallway while while someone was taking up space in the ER over a splinter. Just like anything else, you cannot paint everything with a broad brush.

    Load More Replies...
    Trillian
    Community Member
    3 weeks ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The police actually come for something like this???

    Beth Wheeler
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes they do and depending on what's going on the idiot patient and their behavior might get arrested. I actually saw it happen 1 time, just shook my head and laughed at their stupidity.

    Load More Replies...
    The Starsong Princess
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Have a little compassion. Unwell people under stress often don’t behave well. She likely panicked. If you are in the medical profession, it’s a waste of time to get bent out of shape at irrational patients.

    Mark Stewart
    Community Member
    2 weeks ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Anything could have happened to her and nobody would have known where she was because she didn't properly sign herself out, she sounds like the type that would have sued the hospital for letting her leave and not admitting her.

    Load More Replies...
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