Blessed be those who didn't have to go through the trouble of learning the English language. Some might say that learning Japanese or Icelandic might be the most difficult task out there, but even the most complicated aspects of those languages have some kind of logic behind them. English grammar and the language itself, on the other hand, has some truly nonsensical characteristics to it and a plethora of arbitrary rules.

Those with English as their native language never have to consciously work through the kinks of spelling out Wednesday or why writers write, but fingers don't fing and grocers don't groce. Learning English as a secondary language is a real minefield once you figure out the basic grammar rules and step into more specific areas. And these people decided to point some of the most confusing things out there to prove their point. English is a weird language and at times makes no sense whatsoever, especially for a language that is so widespread.

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English-Language-Logic-No-Sense

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Bleh
Community Member
1 year ago

There are so many people I wanna defenestrate

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Lilli
Community Member
1 year ago

*mind blown*

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To be fair, many linguists would easily find a logical answer to most of the problems presented in these messages, as English language has a lot of nuances (like words being borrowed from Latin and Greek, or the fact that some words had their origins lost or they ceased to be used in spoken language). However, that doesn't mean that they still don't fail to confuse people trying to learn the language, as even the most sound explanation might seem nonsensical when the original problem could be solved by, well... changing the language? Ah, let's leave this for the linguists to figure out and non-native speakers to be confused about, right?

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HANS
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1 year ago

You just ruined the ending for me!

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juice
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1 year ago

...oh

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PyroarRanger
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1 year ago

Oh shit.

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SykesDaMan
Community Member
1 year ago

It took me a while to remember which one is positive and which one is negative between horriffic and terrfic...

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Lilli
Community Member
1 year ago

I feel you dude

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Kaisu
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1 year ago

This is definitely really interesting!

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Lilli
Community Member
1 year ago

...what?

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#10

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So Dou
Community Member
1 year ago

We have the exact same word in french and with the same meaning ... others meaning too ;)

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Yoel Schvarcz
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1 year ago

In french it's called Double-V

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#12

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Kaisu
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1 year ago

English pronunciation was invented by Satan

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#13

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Ben Smith
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1 year ago

Why would you call a cell phone a “handy” anyway??

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Dave Walker
Community Member
1 year ago

I laughed out loud at shiphassailed :D (Yes, I'm a Brit)

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Ben Smith
Community Member
1 year ago

Excellent

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juice
Community Member
1 year ago

no one knows

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Yoel Schvarcz
Community Member
1 year ago

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#18

English Nonsense

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Ben Smith
Community Member
1 year ago

This is the oldest one in the book...

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PyroarRanger
Community Member
1 year ago

America explain... I am confusion!!

Foxxy
Community Member
1 year ago

Arkansas is pronounced Arkansaw.

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DE Ray
Community Member
1 year ago (edited)

Native Arkansan here. There are a lot of explanations (and those different factors aren't wrong - they all contribute some), but I think the best is that the French (and their propensity to silent final -s) played a large role in settling Arkansas, but not Kansas. The name comes from a native (possibly Algonquin or related language) term which would probably be best rendered as "ar Kansah", meaning roughly "land of the people from upsteam" or possibly "the people of the west wind", which would not have been the name the local natives called it (the native Caddo in this area spoke a Sioux dialect, but there are only 110 Caddo left alive and even fewer speak their language) - so a pronounced final -s wouldn't have been appropriate anyway.

Daria B
Community Member
1 year ago (edited)

A bit off topic, but to me personally, Kansas and Arkansas sound like angel and archangel. So, basically, Arkansas is a high Kansas. *nods smartly* Okay, I'll stop here.

Slune
Community Member
1 year ago

Funny working brain developing brilliant explanations.

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Linda Robinett
Community Member
1 year ago

These things are historical. Know Spanish? Why is Amarillo pronounced Amarilllllo rather than Amariyo? History.

Alex Noott
Community Member
1 year ago

The difference in English use of letters & Spanish. Like in Jehovah the J is pronounced as a Y. Yehovah.

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Stannous Flouride
Community Member
1 year ago

Arkansas was named for the French plural of a Native American tribe, while Kansas is the English spelling of a similar one. Since the letter "s" at the end of French words is usually silent, we pronounce Bill Clinton's home state "Arkansaw." ... Kansas is named for the Kansas River, which is named for the Kansa tribe.

shelley smith
Community Member
1 year ago

um ... actually the river was named after the kansa.

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CheeseOnToast
Community Member
1 year ago

Google it... the explanation is out there.

Nicole Holt
Community Member
1 year ago

Oh yes. I definitely pronounced Arkansas like Kansas with "Ar" in front of it, when I first came to the U.S. over 20 years ago. To this day, my (American) husband has not let me live it down.

Jude Pilsworth
Community Member
1 year ago

WHAT? I got to 65 without realising that’s why I can never find “Arkensaw “ on any map🤣

Susie Colley
Community Member
1 year ago

And Arkansas City is pronounced like Ar-Kansas...even tho its in Arkansas...

Alex Noott
Community Member
1 year ago

Oh my head hurts.

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Danielle Madison
Community Member
1 year ago

Me, 8 years old in spelling class, pronounces Arkansas as Ar-Kansas. Almost 30 years later, I still have to think about it before I pronounce it.

Elizabeth Wilkins
Community Member
1 year ago

My daughter likes to mess with people and say Are-Kansas

Shelli Perez Lorton
Community Member
1 year ago (edited)

Arkansas’ name means “many Native American tribes” in French as the French bought that land from Spain. Kansas is the English spelling of a Native American tribe. Thus the different pronunciations.

shelley smith
Community Member
1 year ago

kansas refers to the kansa tribe, one of the 6 degiha siouan tribes. arkansas is from another d.g. siouan tribe actually called the ogaxpa ( or mutilated by european explorers into quapaw). when fellow explorers were confronted with a tribe called the mahican tribe &, a few hundred miles away, the mohegan tribe they short circuited & claimed they were the same people. one guy, james fennimore cooper, wrote a book called "the last of the mohicans", which had a character called uncas who was actually the first of the mohegan tribe because he & his buddies split off from another tribe in the 1600s.

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Daniel da Silva
Community Member
1 year ago

What's the difference? They sound the same to me. English is not my first language.

Id row
Community Member
1 year ago

The realization of this one pissed me off a little, lol.

Pseudo Puppy
Community Member
1 year ago

Easiest answer of an involved history: It's a merging of french immigrants trying to write the pronunciation of the native languages of the Kansa and Quapaw tribes, when talking about the land-area & its people(s). When the native languages were written using a roman alphabet, the "S" was added to make the core words plural. This french spelling / word, was then mispronounced by english speakers in government. (this is the simplest way I can find to explain it).

Kathy Baylis
Community Member
1 year ago

Well, Newark in New Jersey is pronounced like “Newirk” with the first syllable emphasized only slightly and the second almost swallowed so it almost becomes monosyllabic. But Newark in the neighboring state of Delaware is pronounced like “New-ARK” with strong emphasis on “Ark” and making the two syllables distinct. Did this happen because of proximity, to be sure which one someone is talking about? Maybe, but I certainly don’t know for sure.

Vaida Kuodytė
Community Member
1 year ago

The way Arkansas is pronounced MAKES. NO. HECKING. SENSE

Kusotare
Community Member
1 year ago

This actually had to be settled by the Arkansas State Legislature in 1881. The two US Senators representing the state at the time disagreed on the correct pronunciation, necessitating legislation.

AP
Community Member
1 year ago

In Oklahmoma, Miami is pronounced "Miamah"

Slune
Community Member
1 year ago

Oh, Okies......;

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queen...<3
Community Member
1 year ago

OMl when I was younger my friend and I had a lengthy discussion on this lol And yes, I am a native English speaker.

Quinn Gusinow
Community Member
3 months ago

you can get arrested in Arkansas for pronouncing it similar to Kansas

Terry Stickland
Community Member
1 year ago

Wait til you find out about Tucson.

Boricua Exilio
Community Member
1 year ago

As a foreign language speaker I get away with mispronouncing Arkansas all the time. I say it how it should be pronounced and every time someone corrects me, I say that if you wanted to pronounce that way then then you should write Arkansaw and not Arkansas.

Masen Silas
Community Member
1 year ago

And the bane of my existence. i still hate myself for loudly telling my teacher she was wrong in her pronouncement as there was no w. I still say shes wrong but man I was embarrased af

Victoria Rey Piuma
Community Member
1 year ago

Agreed

Lilac DaCat
Community Member
1 year ago

Why, just why. >.<

Anita Bailey
Community Member
1 year ago

I thought Arkansas was pronounced phonetically for many years. Luckily, being British, I never had occasion to say it out loud!!

Terry Jackson
Community Member
1 year ago

I heard that the Arkansas River that flows through both Kansas and Arkansas is pronounced differently in each state to match the pronunciation of their respective states. That is Ar-Kansas with the final 'S' in Kansas. Arkansaw in Arkansas. Is this true?

Stephen Hutchison
Community Member
1 year ago

They are not from English, but one of the native American languages that we ganged up on and stole words from. Or at least that's the excuse I've heard for those names.

Bunny Lady
Community Member
1 year ago

Oh yes!!!!!!!!! I always just want to say ar kansas instead of how it's really pronounced arkensaw!!!

Barbara Vandewalle
Community Member
1 year ago

American english advertisement tiesment Enlish english advertisement tesment advertise ties

Alex Noott
Community Member
1 year ago

They are only pronounced differently because the 2nd has Ar in front of it. But the Kansas bit is said the same. Now, if you're in Arkansaw, that's a whole new matter!

Annette Johannessen
Community Member
1 year ago

And the football team Leichester should be LESTER

nala simba
Community Member
1 year ago

Me too!

Liviu Lupasc
Community Member
1 year ago

I am not 100% sure, but I think it's illegal misspelling Arkansas in the state of Arkansas :)

Florence Hastings
Community Member
1 year ago

That’s ok, I was born in america and found it’s better not to think about it.

Jacquleen Payne
Community Member
1 year ago

And that’s why in my house we call them Kan-sass and Ar-kan-sass.

Monika Soffronow
Community Member
1 year ago

"...thank the French. Arkansas was named for the French plural (silent final 's') of a Native American tribe, while Kansas is the English spelling of a similar one." -> https://www.businessinsider.com/why-we-pronounce-kansas-and-arkansas-differently-2014-2

Marianne Evensen
Community Member
1 year ago

The Arkansas River is pronounced completely differently than Arkansas the state. It's a mystery.

DE Ray
Community Member
1 year ago

It isn't pronounced differently in Arkansas. Where are you?

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Twitch Mitchell
Community Member
1 year ago

To me it's just Kansas and ar-Kansas

Madzdad the bard
Community Member
1 year ago

And in Kansas, the Arkansas River is pronounced Ar-Kansas, to do so otherwise is asking for a fight!

DE Ray
Community Member
1 year ago

And, as is typical, they're wrong.

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Tiny Dynamine
Community Member
1 year ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arkansas#Etymology_and_pronunciation

Jennifer Rapp
Community Member
1 year ago

It's a law from when Arkansas became a state with land from Kansas.

Kaitlin Trollinger
Community Member
1 year ago

The name of the land originally occupied by the name of the people split between two different states. The Kansas Indians lived in the Arkansas nation.

Amy Pattie
Community Member
1 year ago (edited)

American: Let’s break off with English spelling so it makes sense The people: Horrah! America: And lets name two states Kansas and Akansas! The people: Horrah?

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ShareMusic
Community Member
1 year ago

"I before e except after C" is how I learned it in 6th grade. Except in "ancient" (which I later missed on the spelling test!).

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Lilli
Community Member
1 year ago

is it bad that I actually understood this?

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HANS
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1 year ago

I'd rather not do either or do neither.

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#23

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Steven Cook
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1 year ago (edited)

I feel like slim chance still has some small chance while fat chance has no chance at all...

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Bleh
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1 year ago

This made more sense than it should've

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Piou
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1 year ago

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If you think that English is hard to spell then don't look at French. And it was just the first example coming to my mind. Without being the most intuitive language to spell, English is an easy one

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Artex Gorilla
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1 year ago

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No, it's not. Slang means informal words mostly used in spoken language.

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Ben Smith
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1 year ago

Not really.

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Tiny Dynamine
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1 year ago

Some things have no explanation. It's just how they've come to be.

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Miztre
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1 year ago

And people will pronounce it Stefan.

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#30

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KatHat
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1 year ago

Because it used to be shortened to "frig" - I've read it in books, most memorably One Pair of Hands by Monica Dickens - and you tell me how that looks like it should be pronounced.

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Tiny Dynamine
Community Member
1 year ago

I think this depends on what country you're from. It only means the second one in the UK.

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#32

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Kaisu
Community Member
1 year ago

Because it has nothing to do with the words man/woman and comes from Latin humanus

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Full Name
Community Member
1 year ago

Where are they pronounced the same? Not in North America.

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Ben Smith
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1 year ago

And butchers don’t butch

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Full Name
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1 year ago

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Bad comparison because drinks are just different flavours or temperatures if the same thing. You can say soup to mean any soup, or sandwich for any sandwich.

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Kaisu
Community Member
1 year ago

Because "Philippines" is in English while "Filipino/Filipina" is Spanish. No need to stress out. In Spanish the country is Filipinas. All is well, they're just words in two different languages!

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Yoel Schvarcz
Community Member
1 year ago

What about Middle-English?

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Daria B
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1 year ago

One is AWful, the other is AWEsome. Maybe here lies the difference.

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Tiny Dynamine
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1 year ago

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Balogna isn't even a word! I've heard and seen 'baloney' but if you google that one, it doesn't give any credible results.

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Dynein
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1 year ago

Man's laughter and man slaughter...

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