“I Reject The Majority Of Orders”: DoorDash Driver Shares How He Chooses Which Orders To Pick Up, Sparks Debate Online
Food delivery apps have revolutionized the game of take-out. We are no longer limited to only pizza and Chinese food if we’re not interested in cooking dinner or leaving our homes. Although those are both fantastic options, our phones now hold the capability to have almost anything delivered right to our doors. This has been especially useful in recent years when dining-in has been restricted due to the pandemic, and many of us have had to quarantine at least once.
But while we all have enjoyed the convenience of food delivery apps on occasion, few of us actually know what it is like to work for these companies. There are so many nowadays that will bring you anything from a pint of ice cream to a gourmet meal in take-out boxes, but as one DoorDash driver recently shared on TikTok, not every driver is willing to pick up any order.
In the video posted by The Gig Doctor, he shared his tips and methods for being selective when driving for the app, and it sparked quite the debate in the comments. Below, you can read his full explanation, as well as some of the replies from a variety of viewers. Let us know in the comments what you think about these recommendations for working for DoorDash and if they will change the way you order food in the future. Then if you’re interested in checking out a Bored Panda piece featuring wild stories from food delivery drivers, we’ve got the perfect article to read next right here.
This DoorDash driver recently sparked a debate online after sharing that he won’t pick up just any order
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According to Business of Apps, food delivery apps have skyrocketed in popularity in recent years. From April to September in 2020, the combined revenue of the most successful food delivery services (DoorDash, Grubhub, Uber Eats and Postmates) was $5.5 billion. They are constantly expanding as well. I remember when Uber Eats had a handful of options scattered around the city, but today, these apps cover almost every single restaurant, as well as places like grocery stores and pharmacies to bring you the snacks and food items you’re craving that don’t need to be prepared in a kitchen. These apps are on the rise worldwide as well, as Business of Apps projects that the global market for delivery apps will grow to $300 billion by 2027. That’s a lot of pizzas (or brunch bowls, pad thai, lasagnas, milkshakes, etc.).
While the demand for food delivery has increased rapidly, the demand for food delivery workers has grown as well. In theory, it’s a very simple way to make money and can be added into anyone’s schedule to earn a little extra income on the side, if it does not serve as their full-time job. But we all know large corporations like Uber can be very greedy and make it much harder than necessary for small businesses and drivers to earn money, so The Gig Doctor might be onto something when he discusses how selective he is about picking up orders. He explains that it just is not worth his time to take small orders, which upset some readers online, but he is working to make money. If he knows from experience that small orders don’t bring in profits, he has no obligation to take them.
Another DoorDash driver, Mike Hayes, opened up to Business Insider about his experience working for the app. The company claims Dashers earn $25 for every hour they work, so Mike was intrigued by the opportunity, after being laid off during the pandemic. Unfortunately, however, Mike reports that he typically earns between $300-$800 a week after working for 45 hours over the course of 6 days. He also echoes The Gig Doctor’s sentiment that orders will get passed if they are not worth it. “My biggest piece of advice for customers is to tip more than $5 on your delivery if you want it to arrive fast,” Mike says. “The bigger the tip, the more incentive the Dasher will accept it right away and to get it to you quickly. And the more you tip, the more we get paid. Tips are our livelihood, since we don’t depend on the DoorDash base pay.”
The base pay for DoorDash workers is about $3 an hour, so it is perfectly reasonable for drivers to skip orders that won’t be worth it for them. At the end of the day, food delivery workers are just trying to pay their bills and provide for their families just like everyone else. So if we want them to bring us food, we can’t expect them to pick up tiny orders with no tips. Let us know what you think about The Gig Doctor’s video in the comments, and if you plan to use a food delivery service any time soon, please make sure you can throw in a few extra dollars as a tip. It might even help your order be delivered in record time!
Viewers had mixed opinions in the comments, ranging from frustration to support for the underpaid drivers
A necessary service for us disabled people but the company has become brilliant at putting the customer and the dasher against eachother
I never thoughtabput it that way. So what did you do before delivery services? I am curious
Load More Replies...I dont understand how all this works. In UK (my city anyway) each restaurant has its own delivery driver already on at least minimum wage and fuel allowance so tipping is nice but not expected. (They are chuffed if you say "keep the change." Usually no more than a couple of quid) The supermarkets also have their own delivery drivers who are paid more than minimum wage I believe and they dont accept tips. Also never understood tipping %... why should you pay more on a tip depending on how much you spend as its still only one person with one delivery.
Also... why are you expected to put on a tip BEFORE getting the service? You tip for good service. You should be able to tip after you received said service. Companies need to be paying an actual wage. Customers should not be expected to make up the poor wages!
Load More Replies...I don’t mind tipping, but the delivery and service fees take away from what could have been more of a tip. Be mad at the companies
Oh yeah I definitely agree. When you get charged $30 for both, you're out of $60. Not saying drivers don't deserve a tip but with that on top of food you're almost out $100 which is crazy.
Load More Replies...This is totally correct. I am the same way. I'm not going to drive all over for $2.25. Gas is too high
Okay well you're the one who chose to drive and deliver food as a career maybe just do your job like the rest of us have to. This just shows how sad and pathetic people have gotten
Load More Replies...It's a necessary thing to do if you are a dasher. I usually take anything less that $5 when I dash, so I am not quite a choosy as this dasher. You do have to account for how much gas costs and what kind of car you have. Think about that when you are tipping your dasher! If you don't want to tip than go get it you own damn self! And for God sakes, turn on your porch lights!!!!!
Yes. I think there are multiple factors that will vary from driver to driver and market to market. The cost of fuel and MPG of the car, like you say. Also, cost of living where you are, and how long it'll take you to do the job. Where I live, doing that 2.6 mile delivery on city streets would be at least 20 minutes, considerably more at high traffic times. It's also a stupidly expensive metro where gas is around $6/gal and $3K median rent. That makes for a different calculation than $3.85/gal and $2K median rent (national average).
Load More Replies...This sounds as entitlement in my country (EU), but then the model of business is radically different. The riders here are penalised if they turn down orders on a regular basis or aren't available permanently. So l guess good for them, though inflation is gonna end a lot of the business.
Wow - in my country you can't even order for less than, say, 20 Dollars. Which makes sense. It's ecological and economical nonsense to order a 2 Dollar item
What he is showing is not the cost of the food order. It's what the app is offering a driver (fee plus tip) to bring the food to the customer.
Load More Replies...I do not frequently order because it can really add up, but there are time when delivery is needed. For a small amounts, it would seem smarter and much cheaper to do a drive-up, which is what I do. However, what I hate is having to put my tip in the app. It is a tip, not part of the salary to subsidize the company's payroll, but that is how the company treats tips. If you don't, the driver doesn't know what the tip will be and can decline it so I end up putting it in the app.
He can do with whatever he wants with his employment, but his tone with this just sounds plain bitchy and entitled imo
No, he was actually respectful and said that accepting the order only to cancel it later is straight up rude. So he simply declines the order to not make the customer wait for a longer time.
Load More Replies...I rarely use DoorDash or any of the delivery services except maybe instacart but my tip goes up a lot more for groceries!! I try the restaurant directly to see if they have their own delivery driver! The fees for this apps are ridiculous!! Most of it goes back to the app and not the driver! Only time I really used them is when I was in a car accident and couldn't leave my home unless I was in a wheel chair!
I see our dashers pick up 2 or 3 orders at a time. Even the little ones, if they are on the way to dropping off larger orders, is easy money without giving up anything. Use them as fill ins and you make more? Wouldn't you?
Not always an option Kiley. You do not always have stacked orders. I will sometimes pick up a smaller amount if I am already picking up and it is not more than additional 2 miles, bot you can't count on "fill ins"
Load More Replies...my minimum tip on orders is $8.00 because of the gas prices. i also order $30-$50 at a time. food delivery is a luxury and should be paid as such. you can always place the order yourself and schlep on over to pick it up in your own vehicle.
You mean people like you can. If you're disabled, not so easy to "schlep on over".
Load More Replies...The issue with this is everyone knows how these companies work when they apply, if they don't that is a them problem as most people research before applying. So they know the company and what the service offers and what they will be expected to deliver. If they have issues then they either need to talk to their employer or unionize.. Doesn't matter what a customer orders, if it's offered on the service then it must be delivered as that is what the service offers. Doesn't say I have to order big and people with mobility issues don't always have big orders but should not be denied. This is offered by the service and the customer is in the right to expect that service. These drivers are in the wrong and handling it like children, shaming the customer rather then the company and punishing innocent people who only wanted a service they were told they could have. Idc about the drivers, they choose to work there and are niw scamming the system and wanting their pos bs validated
I don't feel it was necessary, That Dasher Boy had to broadcast his personal belief or style to the world. He isn't saying anything, that isn't already known. I dash. He is correct in many regards. First off, gas went from 3.00$ to 6.00$ where I live in Nevada. Secondly, Door Dash offers "high volume pay" throughout different time frames in the day. This means a 2.50 base pay & the high volume pay of 2.00$ or 2.50$ it varies, makes it around 5.00$ of pay. It's very simple math, to know exactly what the customer is tipping. If an order offer for Panda Express for example, Is offered @ 7.00$. A Dasher automatically knows without actually knowing, that it's 5.00$ base and somebody is being cheap with a 2.00$ tip. My general plan of attack is just like Dasher Boys, almost every drivers mentally - attack is the same. The post who said they "recommended a tip of 5$" is correct. Base pay & coupled with high volume pay of 5$ means there should be no offers of 6.00$ oders or 7.00$ orders. 9-10
I am a DoorDash driver and it is really annoying when customers don't tip. I accept all orders that come across my screen because it's the right thing to do. Some orders turn out to be more money in the end and I understand not wanting to tip until the delivery is finished, but when I get an order with no tip and it says in the comments to "leave at door", that customer had no intentions on tipping. I've pretty much given up on delivering for DoorDash because of so many drivers who cherry pick and leave the small orders for the rest of us. I drive more for Instacart and Shipt now because of this.
I no longer use doordash or any other food delivery service. I live in a city where there are perfectly good restaurants within a 5 minute drive of my house. I'll order on the phone or online, and then go pick it up. I think these "picky" drivers are shooting themselves in the foot. They want big money, but soon they won't have a delivery job at all.
Not true! I think it's great that you are willing to go pick up your own food, as I do it for myself. We are using our time and our gas to serve people. If we don't get compensated for that, why bother?
Load More Replies...After reading all the horror stories about "food delivery services" I would NEVER use them. It isn't the fact that I would have to tip them, that is a no -brainer. Of course I would tip them, at least 30%. But I don't trust them not to eat or spit or something worse to my food.
Putting aside issues of the business model etc, they are being an ahole. By doing this, you are not just saying you don't think it's worth your time doing those orders, you are saying other people should do them, so you get to pick and choose the high end ones. It's the equivalent to working in retail and telling your colleagues you are only going to help customers where the commission hits a certain level, and they need to take care of the rest.
What he’s saying is, he’s not going to work for free or his own cost. Sheesh. Are you dense? Why would he?! If no one accepts the order, the customer won’t be charged and will learn to tip better next time. I’ve had to order small orders for delivery fairly often while recovering from surgeries over the last two years in a cancer journey but I knew they won’t be picked up if a driver didn’t see it as valuable to him/her. So I tipped appropriately. Never had a problem with slow or cold food. These drivers aren’t employees, they’re independent contractors. Same with ride share drivers. Neither you, the service nor the restaurants “own” them. If one can’t afford to offer a driver what he needs/wants to “take the job,”, one can’t afford the service. Get off your butt and go get it yourself.
Load More Replies...The issue is that Doordash and all other apps a couple of years changed their model to subsidize drivers pay based on tips. Basically, Doordash schemed with Uber and other apps, to change their contracts with drivers we will pay you a base change of a couple of bucks (2.50 in my market) and also tell you what you will be paid including tip. This was after doordash was sued and held liable to for stealing drivers tops. Prior drivers were getting paid for time and miles. The business model is wrong and has continually increased rates for customers and in return, lowered drivers pay. The issue with this is that these gig apps can change their algorithm to minimize what they pay drivers to try to reach profitability. These are billion dollar companies that have never turned a profit. The biggest ponzi scheme right under our noses.
Doordash GrubHub Uber Eats all Ativan 30 40 50% to the base cost of the product at the restaurant so why isn't the driver getting part of that? I certainly would not place an order because they all give me a large service charge that makes the cost of my meal 50% more
If people want their food delivered, they should at least be grateful enough to tio
Well yes you all would have a completely different view if you knew what it's actually like to work in this business. The company offers a lot of privileges to the customers so they'd invite them into using their services but they behave like trash with the drivers. That's not fair. Next time consider the fact that they're not your slaves, they're also people and it's not their fault these services put most of the cost on them just to attract customers. I know, it's great when you can get food delivered at your door for a few dollars but for someone to do a 20-30 minute ride for a few bucks is not worth it, especially considering gas is not cheap
You're a fool you definitely don't make more money than the people taking all the deliveries idiot just do your job you pathetic loser people like you are why my food ends up cold when I get it delivered loser go do your job like the rest of us who are useful to our societies
This guy's a twat you're going to claim that the top dashers make less than you f*****g moron those guys make way more because they aren't picky little bitches do your f****n job you loser all you do is drive around and deliver food f**k off you entitled prick
This service is an expensive joke. If they can't provide it to the poor souls that chhoose,, they should go out of business. I ordered once a while back, but never again.
Services such as DoorDash and Lyft has helped me tremendously as I am disabled and can not drive. I keep a running list of what I need and then make 1 large grocery list once every 1 or 2 weeks and leave a good tip as the help is so much appreciated. The fact that they are only getting paid $3/hr plus tips is infuriating. That's illegal and these corporate monsters know it. They need to pay you min. wage plus tips at a bare minimum. I've worked at places like this and I've heard all their B.S. excuses for paying less then minimum wage. " You will make so much money in tips that you won't even care about your hourly." " We can only pay you $3/hr because of taxes on your tips. By paying you less we are actually insuring that you get to keep all your tips. It's for your benefit.". All these excuses are lies go to any attorney and they will tell you this is illegal no matter the contract you signed. All my past employers ended up having to pay me past wages because they got caught and sued
Don't have a problem with this as I don't use their services. Do what's best for you dude.
I usually order 2 or 3 items, like dinner for tonight and lunch/dinner for tomorrow. It makes all the fees more worth it, and ensures that the tip will be at least $10. I could t imagine tipping less than $10. And I always get my order on time seeing as I always tip at least 10.
Well, it's not a 'tiny' order... it's showing him the tip he makes... soo... let's say the retauraunt says "over $30 free delivery"... so you get $35 worth of food... but the tip, at 15% is like 5.25. So... true enough I tend to order from places that will serve up enough for the food to last and that I can integrate into leftovers over the week... so it usually ends up being a bit more... but still nowhere near the $10 tip minimum this guy is demanding. Besides... I've found, on the occasion that the order really is large (thus the tip being over $15 or whatever)... I've STILL had door dashers be absolute jerks about the whole thing. Once I was sick (Gi issues, dehydrated, migraines, etc)... the courier calls my phone "Yeah, I'm like... in the central area of the complex (of townhouses... so outside... about a 3-5 minute walk away... and it was dark... and raining), come out here and get your food" - I was like 'Uh... no... you have my address... I'm sick... and it's raining..."
Sometimes have to cancel after accepted, because the restaurant is out of what was ordered, and restaurants can't contact customer to tell them, and we get stuck driving there for no reason. And we can tell customer to cancel the order, and wait a few minutes to see if they cancel. Then we get paid half the amount. If we just cancel on our end DOOR DASH will send the same order to another driver. I know that for a fact, having been the fourth driver to show up, one time.
What I'm getting from delivery ppl is this; instead of demanding better pay FROM THE COMPANY THEY WORK FOR, they make the customers(often disabled and/or elderly) suffer because their fixed income cant tip more than $5. Do better. Also, grabbing all those smaller orders would add up fast, this just smells of someone who doesnt actually want to work.
INDEPENDENT CONTRACTOR,that means, they work for themselves!!! How many times do you need to hear that? Mileage deduction is 57 cents a mile they only show distance ONE WAY. So we have to consider how far back we drive, as well, that's how BUSINESS decision are made. 4 miles there may mean 4 miles back to where driver can get another order from. Restaurants grouped together known as a hot spot, on app. So, 8 miles is 4 dollars in deduction on taxes. Even if our costs aren't that high, car going to need replacing eventually. That's the TRUE COST, not how much you spend on gas
Load More Replies...I stopped using Doordash. They would always leave my food somewhere else or not deliver at all. I honestly believe these companies should not allow this kind of thing. After so many declined orders I would toss them off the system. And why for the love of god would I tip you before service? Do you tip at a bar or restaurant before you eat or drink? Do you tip the pizza delivery before it gets to you? I tip based on service.
As someone who works for tips, I understand and also someone who delivered pizza, the wear and tear on your car plus gas it's not worth $5. Also sometimes it's not the drivers fault, you have to consider the time, traffic, and how busy that restaurant or store might be so regardless you still tip at 15-20%. And remember delivery is a luxury and people are doing you a favor.
Do these people not know how self employment works. I can promise him the dasher that made 400 dollars going 10k miles that year lost less money then he did just on the standard mileage deduction then he did making 400 with 100 miles. Plugging that example into a 1099 calculator. If he made 400 in a year and drove a total of 100 miles he would owe 58 dollars in taxes. Plugging in for a fake rival driver who made 400 driving 10,000 miles. They owe -826 in taxes.
I agree, people have become terribly entitled. They want their food delivered fast, hot, and fresh but don't see how they should pay a respectable tip for the convenience of being able to stay home instead of going out for whatever reason they had for not wanting to go out. When I'm hell of tired, it's cold, raining, snowing, or I haven't had time to pick up groceries just yet, I think about that and I show all of my appreciation via the tip. People have too much nerves these days thinking that something should come for nothing especially in this day and time. Pshhh! 🙄. That's why your food is still at the restaurant sitting on the counter so don't complain. Tip your delivery app driver for doing what you could be doing for yourself but you didn't want to, and show appreciation. Delivery driving is not a social service for the people, it is a job and drivers expect to be paid...Good day!!
I'll just start playing with myself, but thing's end up gettjng a little messy when I start using thier delivery items as "enhancements!"
I call BS here. DD requires a minimum of $12 for an order (that's before any taxes or fees). Not to mention that DD hires the scummiest most vile people imaginable. I mean, straight-up Charles Manson types. I dropped DD ages ago and went over to GrubHub, which is far superior and the drivers aren't potential serial killers.
My next door neighbor, a registered sex offender, drives GrubHub.
Load More Replies...Remember that the distance the app shows is a one way distance. The driver has to drive at least double that. Also, drivers are subcontractors and have to pay their own taxes, insurances, gas and vehicle maintenance costs out of the delivery fees. That all adds up to about 50% of delivery price. I do door dash, if the offer is not at least $1 per mile of the doubled distance, it is not economically worth it.
Some places, especially CVS don’t allow you to tip and frankly because of inconvenience I just don’t have cash to tip with. I wish there was another way to tip.
I suspect that the extravagant tippers who use Door Dash frequently are the same deadbeats who default on their student loans because they "just can't afford the payments"!
raise the base. Stop letting customers decide employees wages. Food service are some of the lowest paid workers.
We tip outrageously well when we order because we know the drivers will pick us up faster and we want to help with whatever we can - we're getting a little extra money, so we can pay it forward. We joke that the drivers know us in the area now because our stuff is picked up *quick*!
totally irrelevant, but they are from my town! I recognize places on his maps.
HEAR US OUT! I Lyft, door dash, Uber eats and Uber… all which base pay isn’t great. It’s a low paying job that some of you may say you will never do because it’s not beneficial so why expect us to do it for you if you’re not tipping us knowing the base pay is garbage? Do y’all read any of the Petitions and sign for use when we are asking these company’s to pay use better? Better yet if our demand and requirements why don’t y’all order and go get the food? If it don’t relate, if it’s not directed to you.. let people have their opinion especially when they are in the situation and not you!
People don’t want to pay for they food to be delivered they thank doordash pays us and the nerves they have when they don’t tip and want u to do extra stuff if u ain’t order your food correctly and ask for the extra stuff u want that’s on u first of we only there to pick up and deliver not order and if they are hungry they watch your moves and complain when they food moves in a different direction remember your food is not they only food gets pick up other food do to so tip and your food will be warm when u get it 😂
Money talks and b.s. walks... Down to the restaurant to get it's own food.
It's simple. You tip for the level of service you want. Don't lowball it, if you want to know what a good tip is just use the gas prices as a guide. I recommend using the price of premium, but it's your choice.
I kind of agree with him, the issue is customer are being cheap they order 30 dollar meal or 15 meal and will pay $ 2 tip. Now a days any restaurant min tips start at 18%. Think about that. One time I delivered an order they tip .25c seriously for big order that cost them $50 and 5 miles come on. Donor dash should implement min tips $5 regardless how far order is or close. Or implement $5 min charge regardless plus base charge that would make min order $10 that not bad for driver. We bring you food or shopping at your comfort. Other wise you have to dress up drive in traffic etc.. to pick the food and most likely spending more if you went shopping. So door dash change your models and customer get it together and tips more. Also restaurant need to secure the food most of them don’t which is big food safety issue
Your order will be accepted if you aren't a cheapskate with the tip. If you think you can just tip 20% on your $5 order, you're an idiot. This person is picking up your food at the restaurant and bringing it to you in their own vehicle, with their own gas. A minimum tip for a short distance of 1 - 5 miles would be $10. If you're asking them to pick something up that is 20 miles away, you'd better cough up a $20 tip. This isn't pizza delivery.
A necessary service for us disabled people but the company has become brilliant at putting the customer and the dasher against eachother
I never thoughtabput it that way. So what did you do before delivery services? I am curious
Load More Replies...I dont understand how all this works. In UK (my city anyway) each restaurant has its own delivery driver already on at least minimum wage and fuel allowance so tipping is nice but not expected. (They are chuffed if you say "keep the change." Usually no more than a couple of quid) The supermarkets also have their own delivery drivers who are paid more than minimum wage I believe and they dont accept tips. Also never understood tipping %... why should you pay more on a tip depending on how much you spend as its still only one person with one delivery.
Also... why are you expected to put on a tip BEFORE getting the service? You tip for good service. You should be able to tip after you received said service. Companies need to be paying an actual wage. Customers should not be expected to make up the poor wages!
Load More Replies...I don’t mind tipping, but the delivery and service fees take away from what could have been more of a tip. Be mad at the companies
Oh yeah I definitely agree. When you get charged $30 for both, you're out of $60. Not saying drivers don't deserve a tip but with that on top of food you're almost out $100 which is crazy.
Load More Replies...This is totally correct. I am the same way. I'm not going to drive all over for $2.25. Gas is too high
Okay well you're the one who chose to drive and deliver food as a career maybe just do your job like the rest of us have to. This just shows how sad and pathetic people have gotten
Load More Replies...It's a necessary thing to do if you are a dasher. I usually take anything less that $5 when I dash, so I am not quite a choosy as this dasher. You do have to account for how much gas costs and what kind of car you have. Think about that when you are tipping your dasher! If you don't want to tip than go get it you own damn self! And for God sakes, turn on your porch lights!!!!!
Yes. I think there are multiple factors that will vary from driver to driver and market to market. The cost of fuel and MPG of the car, like you say. Also, cost of living where you are, and how long it'll take you to do the job. Where I live, doing that 2.6 mile delivery on city streets would be at least 20 minutes, considerably more at high traffic times. It's also a stupidly expensive metro where gas is around $6/gal and $3K median rent. That makes for a different calculation than $3.85/gal and $2K median rent (national average).
Load More Replies...This sounds as entitlement in my country (EU), but then the model of business is radically different. The riders here are penalised if they turn down orders on a regular basis or aren't available permanently. So l guess good for them, though inflation is gonna end a lot of the business.
Wow - in my country you can't even order for less than, say, 20 Dollars. Which makes sense. It's ecological and economical nonsense to order a 2 Dollar item
What he is showing is not the cost of the food order. It's what the app is offering a driver (fee plus tip) to bring the food to the customer.
Load More Replies...I do not frequently order because it can really add up, but there are time when delivery is needed. For a small amounts, it would seem smarter and much cheaper to do a drive-up, which is what I do. However, what I hate is having to put my tip in the app. It is a tip, not part of the salary to subsidize the company's payroll, but that is how the company treats tips. If you don't, the driver doesn't know what the tip will be and can decline it so I end up putting it in the app.
He can do with whatever he wants with his employment, but his tone with this just sounds plain bitchy and entitled imo
No, he was actually respectful and said that accepting the order only to cancel it later is straight up rude. So he simply declines the order to not make the customer wait for a longer time.
Load More Replies...I rarely use DoorDash or any of the delivery services except maybe instacart but my tip goes up a lot more for groceries!! I try the restaurant directly to see if they have their own delivery driver! The fees for this apps are ridiculous!! Most of it goes back to the app and not the driver! Only time I really used them is when I was in a car accident and couldn't leave my home unless I was in a wheel chair!
I see our dashers pick up 2 or 3 orders at a time. Even the little ones, if they are on the way to dropping off larger orders, is easy money without giving up anything. Use them as fill ins and you make more? Wouldn't you?
Not always an option Kiley. You do not always have stacked orders. I will sometimes pick up a smaller amount if I am already picking up and it is not more than additional 2 miles, bot you can't count on "fill ins"
Load More Replies...my minimum tip on orders is $8.00 because of the gas prices. i also order $30-$50 at a time. food delivery is a luxury and should be paid as such. you can always place the order yourself and schlep on over to pick it up in your own vehicle.
You mean people like you can. If you're disabled, not so easy to "schlep on over".
Load More Replies...The issue with this is everyone knows how these companies work when they apply, if they don't that is a them problem as most people research before applying. So they know the company and what the service offers and what they will be expected to deliver. If they have issues then they either need to talk to their employer or unionize.. Doesn't matter what a customer orders, if it's offered on the service then it must be delivered as that is what the service offers. Doesn't say I have to order big and people with mobility issues don't always have big orders but should not be denied. This is offered by the service and the customer is in the right to expect that service. These drivers are in the wrong and handling it like children, shaming the customer rather then the company and punishing innocent people who only wanted a service they were told they could have. Idc about the drivers, they choose to work there and are niw scamming the system and wanting their pos bs validated
I don't feel it was necessary, That Dasher Boy had to broadcast his personal belief or style to the world. He isn't saying anything, that isn't already known. I dash. He is correct in many regards. First off, gas went from 3.00$ to 6.00$ where I live in Nevada. Secondly, Door Dash offers "high volume pay" throughout different time frames in the day. This means a 2.50 base pay & the high volume pay of 2.00$ or 2.50$ it varies, makes it around 5.00$ of pay. It's very simple math, to know exactly what the customer is tipping. If an order offer for Panda Express for example, Is offered @ 7.00$. A Dasher automatically knows without actually knowing, that it's 5.00$ base and somebody is being cheap with a 2.00$ tip. My general plan of attack is just like Dasher Boys, almost every drivers mentally - attack is the same. The post who said they "recommended a tip of 5$" is correct. Base pay & coupled with high volume pay of 5$ means there should be no offers of 6.00$ oders or 7.00$ orders. 9-10
I am a DoorDash driver and it is really annoying when customers don't tip. I accept all orders that come across my screen because it's the right thing to do. Some orders turn out to be more money in the end and I understand not wanting to tip until the delivery is finished, but when I get an order with no tip and it says in the comments to "leave at door", that customer had no intentions on tipping. I've pretty much given up on delivering for DoorDash because of so many drivers who cherry pick and leave the small orders for the rest of us. I drive more for Instacart and Shipt now because of this.
I no longer use doordash or any other food delivery service. I live in a city where there are perfectly good restaurants within a 5 minute drive of my house. I'll order on the phone or online, and then go pick it up. I think these "picky" drivers are shooting themselves in the foot. They want big money, but soon they won't have a delivery job at all.
Not true! I think it's great that you are willing to go pick up your own food, as I do it for myself. We are using our time and our gas to serve people. If we don't get compensated for that, why bother?
Load More Replies...After reading all the horror stories about "food delivery services" I would NEVER use them. It isn't the fact that I would have to tip them, that is a no -brainer. Of course I would tip them, at least 30%. But I don't trust them not to eat or spit or something worse to my food.
Putting aside issues of the business model etc, they are being an ahole. By doing this, you are not just saying you don't think it's worth your time doing those orders, you are saying other people should do them, so you get to pick and choose the high end ones. It's the equivalent to working in retail and telling your colleagues you are only going to help customers where the commission hits a certain level, and they need to take care of the rest.
What he’s saying is, he’s not going to work for free or his own cost. Sheesh. Are you dense? Why would he?! If no one accepts the order, the customer won’t be charged and will learn to tip better next time. I’ve had to order small orders for delivery fairly often while recovering from surgeries over the last two years in a cancer journey but I knew they won’t be picked up if a driver didn’t see it as valuable to him/her. So I tipped appropriately. Never had a problem with slow or cold food. These drivers aren’t employees, they’re independent contractors. Same with ride share drivers. Neither you, the service nor the restaurants “own” them. If one can’t afford to offer a driver what he needs/wants to “take the job,”, one can’t afford the service. Get off your butt and go get it yourself.
Load More Replies...The issue is that Doordash and all other apps a couple of years changed their model to subsidize drivers pay based on tips. Basically, Doordash schemed with Uber and other apps, to change their contracts with drivers we will pay you a base change of a couple of bucks (2.50 in my market) and also tell you what you will be paid including tip. This was after doordash was sued and held liable to for stealing drivers tops. Prior drivers were getting paid for time and miles. The business model is wrong and has continually increased rates for customers and in return, lowered drivers pay. The issue with this is that these gig apps can change their algorithm to minimize what they pay drivers to try to reach profitability. These are billion dollar companies that have never turned a profit. The biggest ponzi scheme right under our noses.
Doordash GrubHub Uber Eats all Ativan 30 40 50% to the base cost of the product at the restaurant so why isn't the driver getting part of that? I certainly would not place an order because they all give me a large service charge that makes the cost of my meal 50% more
If people want their food delivered, they should at least be grateful enough to tio
Well yes you all would have a completely different view if you knew what it's actually like to work in this business. The company offers a lot of privileges to the customers so they'd invite them into using their services but they behave like trash with the drivers. That's not fair. Next time consider the fact that they're not your slaves, they're also people and it's not their fault these services put most of the cost on them just to attract customers. I know, it's great when you can get food delivered at your door for a few dollars but for someone to do a 20-30 minute ride for a few bucks is not worth it, especially considering gas is not cheap
You're a fool you definitely don't make more money than the people taking all the deliveries idiot just do your job you pathetic loser people like you are why my food ends up cold when I get it delivered loser go do your job like the rest of us who are useful to our societies
This guy's a twat you're going to claim that the top dashers make less than you f*****g moron those guys make way more because they aren't picky little bitches do your f****n job you loser all you do is drive around and deliver food f**k off you entitled prick
This service is an expensive joke. If they can't provide it to the poor souls that chhoose,, they should go out of business. I ordered once a while back, but never again.
Services such as DoorDash and Lyft has helped me tremendously as I am disabled and can not drive. I keep a running list of what I need and then make 1 large grocery list once every 1 or 2 weeks and leave a good tip as the help is so much appreciated. The fact that they are only getting paid $3/hr plus tips is infuriating. That's illegal and these corporate monsters know it. They need to pay you min. wage plus tips at a bare minimum. I've worked at places like this and I've heard all their B.S. excuses for paying less then minimum wage. " You will make so much money in tips that you won't even care about your hourly." " We can only pay you $3/hr because of taxes on your tips. By paying you less we are actually insuring that you get to keep all your tips. It's for your benefit.". All these excuses are lies go to any attorney and they will tell you this is illegal no matter the contract you signed. All my past employers ended up having to pay me past wages because they got caught and sued
Don't have a problem with this as I don't use their services. Do what's best for you dude.
I usually order 2 or 3 items, like dinner for tonight and lunch/dinner for tomorrow. It makes all the fees more worth it, and ensures that the tip will be at least $10. I could t imagine tipping less than $10. And I always get my order on time seeing as I always tip at least 10.
Well, it's not a 'tiny' order... it's showing him the tip he makes... soo... let's say the retauraunt says "over $30 free delivery"... so you get $35 worth of food... but the tip, at 15% is like 5.25. So... true enough I tend to order from places that will serve up enough for the food to last and that I can integrate into leftovers over the week... so it usually ends up being a bit more... but still nowhere near the $10 tip minimum this guy is demanding. Besides... I've found, on the occasion that the order really is large (thus the tip being over $15 or whatever)... I've STILL had door dashers be absolute jerks about the whole thing. Once I was sick (Gi issues, dehydrated, migraines, etc)... the courier calls my phone "Yeah, I'm like... in the central area of the complex (of townhouses... so outside... about a 3-5 minute walk away... and it was dark... and raining), come out here and get your food" - I was like 'Uh... no... you have my address... I'm sick... and it's raining..."
Sometimes have to cancel after accepted, because the restaurant is out of what was ordered, and restaurants can't contact customer to tell them, and we get stuck driving there for no reason. And we can tell customer to cancel the order, and wait a few minutes to see if they cancel. Then we get paid half the amount. If we just cancel on our end DOOR DASH will send the same order to another driver. I know that for a fact, having been the fourth driver to show up, one time.
What I'm getting from delivery ppl is this; instead of demanding better pay FROM THE COMPANY THEY WORK FOR, they make the customers(often disabled and/or elderly) suffer because their fixed income cant tip more than $5. Do better. Also, grabbing all those smaller orders would add up fast, this just smells of someone who doesnt actually want to work.
INDEPENDENT CONTRACTOR,that means, they work for themselves!!! How many times do you need to hear that? Mileage deduction is 57 cents a mile they only show distance ONE WAY. So we have to consider how far back we drive, as well, that's how BUSINESS decision are made. 4 miles there may mean 4 miles back to where driver can get another order from. Restaurants grouped together known as a hot spot, on app. So, 8 miles is 4 dollars in deduction on taxes. Even if our costs aren't that high, car going to need replacing eventually. That's the TRUE COST, not how much you spend on gas
Load More Replies...I stopped using Doordash. They would always leave my food somewhere else or not deliver at all. I honestly believe these companies should not allow this kind of thing. After so many declined orders I would toss them off the system. And why for the love of god would I tip you before service? Do you tip at a bar or restaurant before you eat or drink? Do you tip the pizza delivery before it gets to you? I tip based on service.
As someone who works for tips, I understand and also someone who delivered pizza, the wear and tear on your car plus gas it's not worth $5. Also sometimes it's not the drivers fault, you have to consider the time, traffic, and how busy that restaurant or store might be so regardless you still tip at 15-20%. And remember delivery is a luxury and people are doing you a favor.
Do these people not know how self employment works. I can promise him the dasher that made 400 dollars going 10k miles that year lost less money then he did just on the standard mileage deduction then he did making 400 with 100 miles. Plugging that example into a 1099 calculator. If he made 400 in a year and drove a total of 100 miles he would owe 58 dollars in taxes. Plugging in for a fake rival driver who made 400 driving 10,000 miles. They owe -826 in taxes.
I agree, people have become terribly entitled. They want their food delivered fast, hot, and fresh but don't see how they should pay a respectable tip for the convenience of being able to stay home instead of going out for whatever reason they had for not wanting to go out. When I'm hell of tired, it's cold, raining, snowing, or I haven't had time to pick up groceries just yet, I think about that and I show all of my appreciation via the tip. People have too much nerves these days thinking that something should come for nothing especially in this day and time. Pshhh! 🙄. That's why your food is still at the restaurant sitting on the counter so don't complain. Tip your delivery app driver for doing what you could be doing for yourself but you didn't want to, and show appreciation. Delivery driving is not a social service for the people, it is a job and drivers expect to be paid...Good day!!
I'll just start playing with myself, but thing's end up gettjng a little messy when I start using thier delivery items as "enhancements!"
I call BS here. DD requires a minimum of $12 for an order (that's before any taxes or fees). Not to mention that DD hires the scummiest most vile people imaginable. I mean, straight-up Charles Manson types. I dropped DD ages ago and went over to GrubHub, which is far superior and the drivers aren't potential serial killers.
My next door neighbor, a registered sex offender, drives GrubHub.
Load More Replies...Remember that the distance the app shows is a one way distance. The driver has to drive at least double that. Also, drivers are subcontractors and have to pay their own taxes, insurances, gas and vehicle maintenance costs out of the delivery fees. That all adds up to about 50% of delivery price. I do door dash, if the offer is not at least $1 per mile of the doubled distance, it is not economically worth it.
Some places, especially CVS don’t allow you to tip and frankly because of inconvenience I just don’t have cash to tip with. I wish there was another way to tip.
I suspect that the extravagant tippers who use Door Dash frequently are the same deadbeats who default on their student loans because they "just can't afford the payments"!
raise the base. Stop letting customers decide employees wages. Food service are some of the lowest paid workers.
We tip outrageously well when we order because we know the drivers will pick us up faster and we want to help with whatever we can - we're getting a little extra money, so we can pay it forward. We joke that the drivers know us in the area now because our stuff is picked up *quick*!
totally irrelevant, but they are from my town! I recognize places on his maps.
HEAR US OUT! I Lyft, door dash, Uber eats and Uber… all which base pay isn’t great. It’s a low paying job that some of you may say you will never do because it’s not beneficial so why expect us to do it for you if you’re not tipping us knowing the base pay is garbage? Do y’all read any of the Petitions and sign for use when we are asking these company’s to pay use better? Better yet if our demand and requirements why don’t y’all order and go get the food? If it don’t relate, if it’s not directed to you.. let people have their opinion especially when they are in the situation and not you!
People don’t want to pay for they food to be delivered they thank doordash pays us and the nerves they have when they don’t tip and want u to do extra stuff if u ain’t order your food correctly and ask for the extra stuff u want that’s on u first of we only there to pick up and deliver not order and if they are hungry they watch your moves and complain when they food moves in a different direction remember your food is not they only food gets pick up other food do to so tip and your food will be warm when u get it 😂
Money talks and b.s. walks... Down to the restaurant to get it's own food.
It's simple. You tip for the level of service you want. Don't lowball it, if you want to know what a good tip is just use the gas prices as a guide. I recommend using the price of premium, but it's your choice.
I kind of agree with him, the issue is customer are being cheap they order 30 dollar meal or 15 meal and will pay $ 2 tip. Now a days any restaurant min tips start at 18%. Think about that. One time I delivered an order they tip .25c seriously for big order that cost them $50 and 5 miles come on. Donor dash should implement min tips $5 regardless how far order is or close. Or implement $5 min charge regardless plus base charge that would make min order $10 that not bad for driver. We bring you food or shopping at your comfort. Other wise you have to dress up drive in traffic etc.. to pick the food and most likely spending more if you went shopping. So door dash change your models and customer get it together and tips more. Also restaurant need to secure the food most of them don’t which is big food safety issue
Your order will be accepted if you aren't a cheapskate with the tip. If you think you can just tip 20% on your $5 order, you're an idiot. This person is picking up your food at the restaurant and bringing it to you in their own vehicle, with their own gas. A minimum tip for a short distance of 1 - 5 miles would be $10. If you're asking them to pick something up that is 20 miles away, you'd better cough up a $20 tip. This isn't pizza delivery.
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