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This Doctor’s Notice Explains Why They Won’t Be Accepting Patients Who Didn’t Vaccinate Their Kids
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This Doctor’s Notice Explains Why They Won’t Be Accepting Patients Who Didn’t Vaccinate Their Kids

The only human disease ever eradicated, smallpox, was eradicated using a vaccine. In the 18th century, scientist Edward Jenner decided to follow up his observation that dairy workers who had contracted a relatively mild cowpox infection were immune to the deadly smallpox virus. In 1796, he performed his first vaccination on James Phipps, his gardener’s 8-year-old son. Jenner inoculated Phipps in both arms, making Phipps develop a fever and some uneasiness, but no full-blown infection. Later, Jenner injected Phipps with variolous material, and no disease followed. The boy was later challenged with variolous material once again, and just like the first time, showed no sign of infection. Jenner successfully repeated the test on 23 other subjects, including his 11-month-old son. Now, he’s referred to as “the father of immunology”, and his work is said to have “saved more lives than the work of any other human.”

Few public health measures can compare to vaccines. Vaccinations have reduced disease, disability, and death from a variety of infectious diseases. In addition to saving lives, vaccination has resulted in economic benefits to societies, amounting to almost $69 billion in the United States alone. A recent economic analysis of 10 vaccines for 94 countries estimated that a $34 billion immunization investment resulted in savings of $586 billion in reducing costs of illness and $1.53 trillion when broader economic benefits were included. But despite the overwhelming abundance of evidence, some people choose not to vaccinate their kids.

In response, Dr. Charles Goodman and other doctors are adopting a new policy. They will no longer see children and/or their parents who don’t get them vaccinated. “Parents who choose not to give measles shots, they’re not just putting their kids at risk, but they’re also putting other kids at risk — especially kids in my waiting room,” Dr. Goodman said.

As doctors continue “firing” patients who believe debunked research linking vaccines to autism, some mothers who have been dropped feel “betrayed and upset.” Dotty Hagmier, founder of the support group Moms in Charge added that these parents made up their minds about vaccines after “careful research and diligence to understand the risks versus the benefits for their own children’s circumstances.” Some add that by dropping these people doctors might be sending them to quacks.

The American Academy of Pediatrics stated that doctors should speak of the importance of vaccinations during visits but should respect parents’ wishes unless there’s a significant risk to the child.

Vaccinations have reduced disease, disability, and death in staggering numbers but some people still believe in debunked research linking them to autism

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In response, one doctor has decided to change their policy

“Our office will no longer be seeing patients that do not vaccinate their children. We will vaccinate those who would like to begin the process, however failure to comply with this policy will result in discharge after January 1, 2019. We can provide a medical release when a new physician has been found. Due to the overwhelmingly thorough research of science based findings there is a plethora of evidence supporting the positive impact vaccines have on children. As per Dr. Azmeh’s professional advice, along with the CDC and WHO (World Health Organization), we strongly discourage any parent from withholding vaccines that will undoubtedly help their children. If you have any questions or concerns regarding this policy, please feel free to ask a staff member.”

Other health professionals are also doing this

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“Although I respect each person’s free choice, I have a bigger responsibility to all of the patients for whom I care for. Because of this, the office no longer accepts NEW PATIENTS who have decided not to immunize their children.”

As doctors continue “firing” these patients, some parents who have been dropped feel “betrayed and upset”

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“Not vaccinating your kids leaves them vulnerable to disease their whole lives. When your daughter gets rubella when pregnant, how are you going to explain that you chose to leave her at risk? What will you say when she calls you and tells you she has cervical cancer, because you decided that she wouldn’t need the HPV vaccine? What do you tell your son when he breaks the news to you that he cannot have kids, thanks to the mumps that he got as a teenager? And what do you say when he gives influenza to his grandma? How do you explain that she won’t be coming home from hospital? Not ever. Do you tell them that you didn’t think these diseases were that serious? That you thought that your organic, home cooked food was enough to protect them? Do you say sorry?”

The American Academy of Pediatrics stated that doctors should remind the importance of vaccinations but should respect parents’ wishes unless the child is in huge risk

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troufaki13
Community Member
3 years ago

Also, schools should not accept unvaccinated children.

diane a
Community Member
3 years ago

And registered childminders. Make life as difficult as possible for these idiots

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diane a
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3 years ago (edited)

Unvaccinated children should be restriced on flights to certain parts of the world due to risk of them contracting the diseases and bringing them back. Also - Medical Insurance Providers could insist on up-to date proof of vaccinations for everyone - not just kids, otherwise cover for those conditions be restricted. Know thats extreme - and agree it should just be the law.

Felix Feline
Community Member
3 years ago

Perhaps that should include all flights. Airplane air isn't of the best quality as it is, and to be forced to sit in an enclosed space with mumps and other highly contagious diseases that should have been vaccinated for is dangerous.

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Jaguarundi
Community Member
3 years ago

I have to vaccinate my pets and horses by law. I also was vaccinated as a child, by law, in order to be enrolled in grade school. My entire class was regularly vaccinated and checked for head lice & etc. in school by visiting nurses. My mother suffered from polio, so, she was quite emphatic that her children were immunized for any and all diseases. More parents should be concerned about the dangers of not vaccinating vs. the unproven dangers of the vaccine itself.

Daniel (ShadowDrakken)
Community Member
3 years ago (edited)

That's where you're wrong; it's not "unproven dangers of vaccines" it's "proven efficacy and safety of vaccines" Vaccines are not unproven. They work, they're safe, and even for those with allergies there's secondary versions as a backup. Only those with immunodeficiencies have an excuse.

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AMY SANDERS
Community Member
3 years ago

My daughter recently bought home a permission slip to have her HPV vaccine at school (she's 12) I signed yes straight away. such a no-brainer. It could potentially save her life. makes me mad when people don't go for smears too. but that's another story...

diane a
Community Member
3 years ago

Unfortunately that has only become available in recent years - wasnt around when I was a child, and apparently there is an upper age limit on when it will actually provide benefit unsure if it's 25

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Sansa Blacktyde
Community Member
3 years ago

I'll say it again and keep saying it. As someone with autism, as someone with family members with autism, if you think having autism is worse than dying or being physically/mentally disabled through a contagious, preventable disease, you are a piece of scum and should never become a parent. And also VACCINES DO NOT CAUSE AUTISM, you stupid, ignorant, blind, asshats. Andrew Wakefield was a charlatan, and was rightly struck off by the GMB for malpractice and faked all of his 'research'. Research which is massively outweighed by the long history of the documented and tested success of vaccines.

Carol Emory
Community Member
3 years ago

Bravo Sansa! Well said!

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Sonya Jersey
Community Member
3 years ago

I was born in '88, east europe. Besides the vaccines as a baby, we had vaccines during the first years of school. Someone would come in the classroom and tell us kids to prepare for vaccination next hour. It was mandatory, every kid was vaccinated and parents were informed about this...by us.. when we got home. Also nurses would check us for lice and etc, even dirt under finger nails. Kids who had dirty hands were sent to wash. I vaccinate all of my pets to keep them healthy and I will do so with my future children.

Carol Emory
Community Member
3 years ago

We had the lice checks too...LOL. Funny how there were so many kids in our school district that got lice. We were considered a well to do neighborhood.

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Gerry Higgins
Community Member
3 years ago

Between anti-vaxers, flat-earthers, and trump supporters, it's no wonder the entire world is laughing at the United States

Random Panda
Community Member
3 years ago

These people are not found only in the US, they are all over the world.

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Kathy Honey
Community Member
3 years ago

Poliwoggy, please educate yourself that vaccines do NOT cause autism! That theory was debunked a long time ago! When I was going through chemo, being around people who were not vaccinated was dangerous!!!! Also, I know someone who had polio before the vaccines were available and he spent his entire life after in a wheel chair his whole life!

Sheila Weila
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3 years ago

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You need to research the polio vaccine.

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yikes
Community Member
3 years ago

this is so idiotic. i dont understand why the hell people dont vaccinate their kids. even if (eVEn If) they do indeed cause autism (eVeN iF). and if that's the worst case senario, then honestly what the fuck do they have to fear? i have a little sister with autism, and she is the purest, most innocent, beautiful little shit in the world, and I love her to bits. these anti-vaxxers act as if autism is the end of the world, as if it's the worst possible thing to happen to their child. It's disgusting. People are the absolute worst.

diane a
Community Member
3 years ago (edited)

Vaccinations ensure a healthier life, and also life itself - that should be enough for them. Wait till proof comes in that the exact same proportion of unvaccinated children develp autism as those vaccinated. What will their excuse be then?

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Jessica Russian Sifontes
Community Member
3 years ago

So I MUST vaccinate my dog but somehow Nancy* can choose not to vaccinate her children

Crystalyn Snyder
Community Member
3 years ago

An undervaccinated child contributed to my friend's death. She had completed chemo, was doing great but because someone felt that their child did not need to be vaccinated. Her immune compromised body couldn't handle it. What people don't realize is you lose herd immunity when you have chemo. Her family lost her because of a bad choice.

Carol Emory
Community Member
3 years ago

So sorry for your loss. I hate people that have that selfish "well we're all healthy and fine" excuse about not vaccinating. I just want to slap them and say "it's not all about you, moron"...

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Senor Patrik
Community Member
3 years ago

I am cool, my country is shit but vaciination is required by law ... otherwise social Office will take your children ....... that is why we have so many poor but healthy people :)

Random Panda
Community Member
3 years ago

It's required by law in my country too, but these days some doctors will give parents fake documents stating their kids vaccines are up to date for the right price :/ Last year we had a small break out of measles, which hadn't happened in decades.

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Terry Farnsworth
Community Member
3 years ago

This makes sense. I had German measles when I was 5. My temp hit 107, I was packed in ice...it was torture. I fell into a coma, but I could still hear what was happening around me. The doctor told my mother to make plans, I was going to die. I was lucky, many others who survived weren't so lucky. Deafness, encephalitis, pneumonia, death...that's can happen. And that's just measles. People who don't vaccinate put others at risk, that's unacceptable.

Carol Emory
Community Member
3 years ago

It's funny how one person's supposed professional opinion can ruin so many people's intelligence. Andrew Wakefield produces a 'study' that was a joke and was not supported by hundreds of other tests trying to prove vaccines cause autism (because every one of them failed to prove autism and vaccines are linked.) And now we have a whole generation of hippy-dippy parents that think that vaccinating your kids against deadly diseases is worse than risking your kids having autism. These morons are going to cause all sorts of outbreaks. It's sad that so many innocent people will suffer because of them.

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S Bagci
Community Member
3 years ago

Good for them !!!!!! Everyone doctor should do the same thing !

Samantha Robinson
Community Member
3 years ago (edited)

Unless your child has an autoimmune deficiency or such, I truly believe it should be required that your child be vaccinated. Anti-vax people are only thinking of THEIR children (I truly feel scared and sorry for these children), not the children of others and the health of the WORLD at large. Because of vaccines diseases such as smallpox have been virtually eradicated. But because of anti-vax people, these diseases have a horrifying chance of making a comeback and wiping out entire populations.

Aunt Messy
Community Member
3 years ago

The point is that they're NOT thinking of their own children. They are CHOOSING to risk their children's lives for their own egos. How sick is that?

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Chelsea Andrews
Community Member
3 years ago

I know its crazy to argue with an anti-vaxxer, but I just wanna say this. Why do they quantify autism as being worse than disease and death???? I'm on the spectrum and would much prefer this than getting some serious life altering disease and die. I know they do not cause autism, but seriously autism isnt the end od the world.

bob
Community Member
3 years ago

There is currently an outbreak of measles in the region of Paris, France. In 2018... I'm not that surprised, but still, kind of unbelievable...

Brian Martin
Community Member
3 years ago

Antivaxers are child abusers of their own and everyone else’s children.

Magpie
Community Member
3 years ago

Why is this even a debate in this century?

Magpie
Community Member
3 years ago

Yes I am a fully Vaccinated Australian. Vaccination was one of the first examples of how science works that we were taught in school. My grandmother understood how vaccines work.

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Anggi Pangastuti
Community Member
3 years ago

And those who choose to not vaccinate their kids are actually got vaccinated when they were kids....

Aunt Messy
Community Member
3 years ago

@Sheila - Measles can cause encephalitis, blindness, and death. The leading cause of death among children in developing countries is measles. Chicken pox can cause a debilitating condition in the nerves that is excruciatingly painful. Thankfully, there's a vaccine for shingles now. There has only been a chicken pox vaccine since 1992. ...///... Mumps isn't called the viral vasectomy for nothing. It causes infertility in men. Do you want to tell your son he can't have kids because YOU made that decision for him in all your ugly, selfish, ego-tripping. ...///...

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Jackie Terando McClement
Community Member
3 years ago

I want the antivaxxers to show me the proof as to why they refuse to vaccinate

Aunt Messy
Community Member
3 years ago

Forget it. They've got none. All they have is blind faith - the road to stupidity.

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Doc Thissen
Community Member
3 years ago

One word: GOOD. Unless there is a medical reason, (there are, in fact, some children who cannot be vaccinated - they are rare, but do exist), there is no reason. Not. To. Vaccinate. This is a public health matter, so that supersedes all other thinking - including religious beliefs.

Janette Smith
Community Member
3 years ago

Good

Kjorn
Community Member
3 years ago

i'm aggre but it,s so sad because many… many children pay the tribute for their crazy parents (WHO WERE VACCINATED WHEN WERE KIDS, THEREFORE THEY'RE HEALTY NOW). law should be passed for forced kids to be vaccinated.

Catherine Todd
Community Member
3 years ago

My mother got polio the year BEFORE the polio vaccine was invented and made available. She was 13 year old, and wore a brace and crutches for the rest of her life. Anti-vaxxers endangering every child in a doctor's waiting room or exam room should be ILLEGAL. I hope those poor children are not allowed to go to "regular" school and infect everyone there. It's so sad. Parents should not have the "right" to endanger their own children and all other children they come into contact with.

Gerry Higgins
Community Member
3 years ago

Don't need vaccinations? Tell that to the children in Africa dying for lack of them.

Grace Wiebe
Community Member
3 years ago

It's strange to me that people would blame vaccines for conditions like Autism instead of the copious amounts of processed foods they ate when they were pregnant or fed to their kids from an early age. Or the toxins in the air from scented plug-ins to hairspray. Or that maybe Autism isn't "caused" by any outside source...it's just something that happens sometimes...?

Janet Summers
Community Member
3 years ago (edited)

Sometimes it is genetic. Autism was discovered sometime in the early 20th century and people thought it was just "bad kids" getting an excuse. Then it was found to be genetic in some families. For instance, I have Autism and my brother's son has Autism, which means my brother might be a carrier, and someone in our ancestry might have had it. My nephew was Autistic from the time he was 6 mos old, so don't tell me it's nothing but the vaccines. Still makes my heart break for him cause I know the kind of life he's heading for.

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Jaime Quirk- Palecek
Community Member
3 years ago

Vaccination 👍🏼

Magpie
Community Member
3 years ago

It is a very difficult decision for doctors, but they have to protect as many people as possible. This is how it is done. You can be sure it was a difficult painful decision, with many discussions with all the drs in the clinic.

Jackie Terando McClement
Community Member
3 years ago

The antivaxxers need to explain why they believe it's bad and show proof.

Lillukka79
Community Member
3 years ago

Sheila, she sounds really trustworthy... 😂 https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Suzanne_Humphries

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Melisa Eva
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3 years ago

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thewaldenthree
Community Member
3 years ago

Not all vaccines are created equal. In particular, the flu vaccine. A 2013 study by the government found that older adults were just as likely to end up at the doctor as those not vaccinated. The government admits that each years vaccines attack only 3 or 4 types at most, usually only 2, of last years models. Yet the famous Mayo Clinic exposes the fact that you may have one of more than 100 different viruses. Moreover, viruses mutate at a vicious rate. Since it takes the lab rats, human type, a minimum of 8 to 10 months to create a new vaccine, none of this years myriads of mutations are affected.

thewaldenthree
Community Member
3 years ago

Not all vaccines are created equal. The Flu vaccine in particular A 2013 study by the government found that older adults were just as likely to end up at the doctor as those not vaccinated. The government admits that each years vaccines attack only 3 or 4 types at most, usually only 2, of last years models. Yet the famous Mayo Clinic exposes the fact that you may have one of more than 100 different viruses. Moreover, viruses mutate at a vicious rate. Since it takes the lab rats, human type, a minimum of 8 to 10 months to create a new vaccine, none of this years myriads of mutations are affected.

Dana Hill
Community Member
3 years ago

I love the stories of the anti-vaxxer's kids that have reached adulthood and immediately go get vaccinated. I LOVE that.

Michèle Gyselinck
Community Member
3 years ago

A certain Poliwoggy said she (He?) would have their kids vaccinated but have so many questions. "Do I pick the kind of autism? Is the vaccine gluten-free? What even is polio?" Is this person for real or is this a spoof? If they're for real, what planet are they living on?

Marnee DeRider
Community Member
3 years ago

It wasn't "debunked research" linking vaccines to autism, it was a flat-out lie, made up by a journalist out of thin air. Stop perpetuating the myth!

Tabitha Martin
Community Member
3 years ago

Hope all of these doctors lose their license and practice.

Janine Randall
Community Member
3 years ago

Parents would rather have a dead child than a child with autism. Sounds reasonable.

Kim Lorton
Community Member
3 years ago

I’m a firm believer of vaccines. When I was born, there was only polio and small pox vaccines. I had the red and German measles, mumps, and chicken pox. But now, why put kids through that, and the potential for death? Vaccinate, please!

sharron lynn parsons
Community Member
3 years ago

There has been no mention as to what do the fathers think !!!

Anne Ingleside
Community Member
3 years ago

I'm a mom who believed in immunizations, and held my infant as he had his vaccination, then shortly after seized, stopped breathing, foamed at the mouth, turned purple, had CPR and spent days in a children's hospital, and now struggles with a lifelong neurological disorder, because of his vaccinations. I've been dismissed from two practices because I refuse to give those vaccines to him again. Even with clear medical evidence supporting the fact that it could kill him, I am condescended to, patronized, and treated like a crazy person because I decline vaccines. I'm not a conspiracy theorist or anti modern medicine kook. I just want a medical doctor that will care for my children well, listen to me as a parent, and respect us as people not a one size fits all patient. Where does "first do no harm" come in? Where does a mother's right to protect her child come in? Why am I crazy or a bad parent for wanting what is best for my child's health???

Aunt Messy
Community Member
3 years ago

You mean a neurological disorder that he ALREADY HAD, before the vaccination? ..///... Correlation does not mean causation. Your story is the same as saying that 95 % of spouses are women therefore 95 % of men beat their wives. ...///... You'd rather your son die because you CHOSE not to protect him.

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Tim Bijlsma
Community Member
3 years ago

Well, even if you vaccinate your kid a unvaxxed kid can really make him/het sick. That's the scary stuff about this, if you would walk into a fucking biohazard you will survive, kids and elderly will have a problem. Vaccinated or not. Normally I say Darwin, but me and my gf want kids and I hope we will pull through this ignorance.

Martina Třešková
Community Member
3 years ago

I think it's great and neccessary that the doctors take the stand. If the world believes in something that was already scientificaly proven to be bollocks, and if they are endangering their kids and other people by that belief, there need to be consequences for them so that it makes them change their mind. Also it spreads awareness. Plenty might not know it's bollocks.

David Jeu
Community Member
3 years ago

Im not against vaccine but how can a vaccined kid can be in danger being in the same room with a non vaccined one?

Gilles Légaré
Community Member
3 years ago

Edward Jenner Did not fill his vaccines with mercury and aluminum. Modern medicine is good. Big Pharma is not.

Roberto Durante
Community Member
3 years ago (edited)

Vaccinations have reduced disease, disability, and death in staggering numbers, not to forget rising the bank account of the big pharmacy mafia and the doctor who convinced people to vaccinate their kids for big bonus . Happy to live in europe where we have the choice to do or not.

Arianna Behrens
Community Member
3 years ago

What I can't figure out is why everyone has a problem with those that choose not to vaccinate. I mean I get it, you want your kids to be safe. But they are if they are vaccinated, right? Then this

Aunt Messy
Community Member
3 years ago

You're right. There is no "argument". There is no "debate". Not vaccinating is child abuse. If your child dies because you CHOSE not to protect them, then you are guilty of murder. Everything else is bullshit.

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Kevin Sullivan
Community Member
3 years ago

Informed consent is the real issue. If the average person received there information from there doctor about vaccines and thinks that is the same thing as being informed they should think again. Most people should know that the US. Has pay for profit health care system and everything is based on making a profit and vaccines is no different. The marketing of vaccines is a very lucrative business because there is no liability and of reduced drug trials. Anyone can save themselves a lot of trouble by simply asking your doctor to see the vaccine insert before you vaccinate instead of after they vaccinate you. Beware the price you may pay for this request is a verbal demand to leave his office and to never come back.

Carol Emory
Community Member
3 years ago

You really really think that the vaccine insert will make a difference. There are plenty of medications that cause side effects. Vaccines and autism is not one of them. And if you are going to play the "it's just big pharma trying to make a profit" scam..stop. Many of those vaccines go to countries where patients aren't charged a dime. And many of the vaccines are also offered for free in clinics throughout the USA. Anyone with half a brain can figure out how to circumvent paying for the vaccine. But then again..if you had half a brain..you wouldn't think that vaccines cause autism or that it's just big pharma's way of making a profit.

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Maria Bumbac
Community Member
3 years ago

I think it is terrorism and really an ignorance of the illness process. I healed several bad unbalances like cancers, egzema, papilloma virus....Doctors shouldnt speak before finding out why a virus is there neither HOW it can be cured. Finally we won't need them any more, ans it will save us alot of money: it a good thing!

Chris Lehr
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3 years ago

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I agree vaccines are important but I also agree with parents right to choose the path for their children. This could seriously backfire for doctors if the vaccines are eventually proved to be in anyway harmful.

Sheila Weila
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3 years ago

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But the doctors and the pharmaceutical companies cannot be sued for vaccine injury. The should be held accountable if they force people.

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s¡rawrah Mornin
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3 years ago

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I'm one of those unvaccinated hippie spawn ....im just a creeping around who knows where I'll be mwahaha

Kenny Gibson
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3 years ago

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Aunt Messy
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3 years ago

There is no cure for HPV. This is commercial spam. Report it, people.

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Valerie Lessard
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3 years ago

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oh my god, are you fucking kidding me? there was JUST a post like this,

Kiahna
Community Member
3 years ago

And another will come. And another. And another. And another until PEOPLE GET IT THROUGH THEIR HEADS TO VACCINATE THEIR CHILDREN.

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Allison Ann
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3 years ago

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This Paki is not the ONLY doctor in the world! And who is he - or ANY of you lowlife MAGATS to tell others what to do with their children? Let's talk about how many kids DIE from these vaccines. PLENTY!! These vaccines are LADEN with harmful and lethal chemicals, carcinogens, substances that re DESIGNED to maim or kill children. I trust NOTHING that comes out of shithole America's government or health system! If you lowlife MAGATS want to vaccinate and kill YOUR children, then by ALL means go ahead, but mind your OWN fucking business when it comes to someone else's kid.

Aunt Messy
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3 years ago

Seriously now you're a racist as well as a child abuser. Go away.

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First Name
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3 years ago

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So now doctors can discriminate against people based on their medical history. That seems unethical.

Kiahna
Community Member
3 years ago

Not on their medical history. On whether or not they have had life saving vaccines. You are one ignorant pig, you know that?

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Allison Ann
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3 years ago

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That Paki is not the ONLY doctor in town! I'd tell him to fuck off. NOBODY can FORCE ANYONE to vaccinate their children!! These vaccines are LADEN with carcinogens, chemicals, and other lethal substances designed to harm or KILL children! Let's talk about how many children DIE from vaccines or are harmed for life! FUCK AMERICA!! Let that MAGAT filth vaccinate THEIR kids, but don't come telling other what to do!

Sophia Li
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3 years ago

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This shouldn't be allowed! People have the right to make their own decisions about vaccines. Regardless of if it is better or worse to get them, these people still need medical help. Imagine if all doctors did this. It wouldn't necessarily make parents vaccinate their children. It would only deprive them of going to the doctor.

Random Panda
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3 years ago

Read up on herd immunity if you don't understand why your vaccination status affects other people.

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NoYFB
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3 years ago

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And you can also prevent cervical cancer by healthy choices. Safe sex for example.

Carol Emory
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3 years ago

You're full of shit. My Aunt abstained from sex until she was married, never had another relationship after she divorced and her husband never cheated on her..yet she still got cervical cancer. Saying that you can prevent cervical cancer by having safe sex is about as effective as saying if you don't want to be pregnant, use a condom. Plenty of babies still produced from broken condom syndrome....

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Hans
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3 years ago

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Mixed feelings here. The children are not the ones to blame, and their stupid parents will probably take this "incentive" to even less provide them according to their medical needs. The same goes for exluding such children from kindergartens and schools. They pay the price for their parents idiology. Thus, rather find ways to get their parents back to reason and protect these children!

Night Owl
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3 years ago (edited)

All that is true. On the other hand they are endangering other patients who couldn't get vaccinated (because they are too young or for health reasons) for whom the doctors and other medical professionals also have a responsibility. And the same goes for kindergartens and schools. I imagine it wasn't an easy decision to make (since they can't force anyone to vaccinate). I imagine they did try to convince them but didn't succeed. I'm really sorry for the kids.

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Azure Adams
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3 years ago

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Good on these doctors. Hope these dumb-assed parents kids die. Poor kids. Don't give a damn bit of sympathy or empathy to these parents if and when their kids do die. They need to feel all the guilt and shame they can and we should heap it on them too

NoYFB
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3 years ago

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It's too new. Kids vaccinated now are guinea pigs. There have been severe side effects and some of them come after years, not right away. I'm sure it's safe for many but I need more research and studies done on it before I let them put it in my kids. Other vaccines I have taken for them but not HPV.

Kiahna
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3 years ago

Almost every single 'scientifically proven fact against vaccines' have been debunked one way or another. I assure you, once your children are vaccinated, they will be safer than any other article says they wouldn't be.

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Jus
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3 years ago

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I think the most important thing is to make vaccines as pure and harmless as possible. And fast! I can't believe this is impossible in our times. Also, children can't choose so banning them from schools, as some of you suggest, would only damage their future more.

Aunt Messy
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3 years ago

Their parents are choosing to destroy their own kids' futures. Period. This is not a "discussion" and it's not a "debate". Did you even read the article? Do YOU want to have to tell your daughter that she's going to die of cancer because you CHOSE not to protect her?

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jknbt jknbt
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3 years ago

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my niece refused to vaxx her two kids. So she has to stay home with them since no daycare will take them. Result: very well adjusted kids, they don't have autism, she and my nephew had to cut back a lot since she doesn't work, but they are making it fairly well on his salary.....COMPARE THIS TO THE NEIGHBORS: they vaxxed their kids, put them in daycare, she still works, and BOTH KIDS HAVE AUTISM. HMMM....IS THERE A CONNECTION??? These kids will suffer for the rest of their lives because of parent's decision....don't seem fair...what can I do?

diane a
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3 years ago (edited)

Co-incidence - Bound be many kids with Autism living next to anti-vaxxers. Plus if one child has it - much higher risk of a sibling having it also. Iwould think it difficult for a kid who has little contact with their peers will be totally well ajusted

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NoYFB
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3 years ago

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I say no to HPV vaccine only. It doesn't sound safe at all.

Person2638
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3 years ago

It is very safe and even if it isn't, it sounds a hell of a lot safer than cancer.

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Your Tank
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3 years ago

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But don't vaccines also help spread the disease though?

Alia G.
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3 years ago

No, what vaccines do is they give the person such a minor dose of the disease that won't negatively affect them at all, so that the body can learn how to fight it. For example, you've never had to fight off a lion, I assume. So if a full grown male lion were to attack you now, you wouldn't stand a chance. But if you grew up around lion cubs, you wouldn't be in danger, and you'd learn how lions behave and could defend yourself. from them.

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Anne
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3 years ago

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BP is only posting these "controversial" vaccination stories as they generate more views/clicks than pictures (that I assume most of us are here for, a minute of light in a gloomy day), so they bring in more money.

troufaki13
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3 years ago

Also, schools should not accept unvaccinated children.

diane a
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3 years ago

And registered childminders. Make life as difficult as possible for these idiots

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diane a
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3 years ago (edited)

Unvaccinated children should be restriced on flights to certain parts of the world due to risk of them contracting the diseases and bringing them back. Also - Medical Insurance Providers could insist on up-to date proof of vaccinations for everyone - not just kids, otherwise cover for those conditions be restricted. Know thats extreme - and agree it should just be the law.

Felix Feline
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3 years ago

Perhaps that should include all flights. Airplane air isn't of the best quality as it is, and to be forced to sit in an enclosed space with mumps and other highly contagious diseases that should have been vaccinated for is dangerous.

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Jaguarundi
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3 years ago

I have to vaccinate my pets and horses by law. I also was vaccinated as a child, by law, in order to be enrolled in grade school. My entire class was regularly vaccinated and checked for head lice & etc. in school by visiting nurses. My mother suffered from polio, so, she was quite emphatic that her children were immunized for any and all diseases. More parents should be concerned about the dangers of not vaccinating vs. the unproven dangers of the vaccine itself.

Daniel (ShadowDrakken)
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3 years ago (edited)

That's where you're wrong; it's not "unproven dangers of vaccines" it's "proven efficacy and safety of vaccines" Vaccines are not unproven. They work, they're safe, and even for those with allergies there's secondary versions as a backup. Only those with immunodeficiencies have an excuse.

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AMY SANDERS
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3 years ago

My daughter recently bought home a permission slip to have her HPV vaccine at school (she's 12) I signed yes straight away. such a no-brainer. It could potentially save her life. makes me mad when people don't go for smears too. but that's another story...

diane a
Community Member
3 years ago

Unfortunately that has only become available in recent years - wasnt around when I was a child, and apparently there is an upper age limit on when it will actually provide benefit unsure if it's 25

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Sansa Blacktyde
Community Member
3 years ago

I'll say it again and keep saying it. As someone with autism, as someone with family members with autism, if you think having autism is worse than dying or being physically/mentally disabled through a contagious, preventable disease, you are a piece of scum and should never become a parent. And also VACCINES DO NOT CAUSE AUTISM, you stupid, ignorant, blind, asshats. Andrew Wakefield was a charlatan, and was rightly struck off by the GMB for malpractice and faked all of his 'research'. Research which is massively outweighed by the long history of the documented and tested success of vaccines.

Carol Emory
Community Member
3 years ago

Bravo Sansa! Well said!