“She Is Forced To Do Something That She Would Never On Her Own Do”: Dad’s Punishment Causes Daughter Emotional Distress, This Guy Calls It Abuse
Some time ago, physical abuse was an acceptable punishment to give a child that was misbehaving. It was even applied in schools so not only parents could use this method of discipline.
Thank God someone figured that this wasn’t the best way and that it actually is a really really bad way to show your kids what is right and what is wrong as it leads to a myriad of problems that this child will have to deal with when they grow up.
Physical punishment isn’t that common and it’s not socially acceptable, even though there aren’t strict laws surrounding it. However, emotional abuse is still very much used by parents. They think they can get away with it because they are not hitting them, but this TikToker explains that it’s actually not a good option either.
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Dad decides to discipline his daughter by making her smash her phone with a hammer, but a TikToker says it’s not okay
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Jon Fogel, who is also known as wholeparent on TikTok, is “a dad, a pastor, and a nut for evidence-based non-trauma inducing parenting” as he introduces himself in his bio. He shares various videos giving advice to parents on how to solve common problems many people deal with when raising children.
He is reasonably popular on TikTok, having a following of 200k people and not too long ago, his video went viral with 5M views talking about emotional abuse.
That video begins with a stitch showing another parent punishing his daughter because he was tired of her being disrespectful towards her mom. His thought that a good way to show his daughter her behavior was unacceptable was to make her smash her phone with a hammer.
The girl is clearly in distress, she is crying, but the dad is telling her to hit the phone and do it harder. She is doing it through tears, but not everyone would think this is abuse as the dad is not physically touching her.
The TikToker starts his video by showing a concerning clip of a girl crying as her father tells her to hit her phone
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However, Jon identified it as emotional abuse and revealed that if you read anything about child development, you know that physical and emotional abuse have almost the same effect on children’s brains.
A group of scientists published an article in which they determined that “emotional abuse, which likely represents experiences of parental rejection and is often considered most detrimental in terms of altered concept of ‘self,’ is associated with the cortical thinning of regions implicated in mediating self-reflection, self-awareness, and first-person perspective.”
Jon points out that just because the dad is not touching the child doesn’t mean he’s not abusing her
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Lane Strathearn, MBBS, PhD who is the director of the division of developmental and behavioral pediatrics and the physician director of the Center for Disabilities and Development believes that “The problems observed in adulthood are extremely serious and difficult to treat. Our community suffers on so many levels as a result of emotional abuse and neglect.”
Kids Helpline provides a lengthy list of what consequences emotional abuse brings, but let’s look at the ones that are mentioned in both this list and the one about physical abuse. They include pretty much the same impacts such as self-harm, drug and alcohol use, eating disorders, behavioral disorders, low self-esteem, developmental delays, physical ailments, depression or anxiety, etc.
And because emotional abuse is harder to detect, it may be even more dangerous as there are no obvious signs for a person outside the family to see. Kids Helpline gives a couple of indicators that might point to possible emotional abuse that include avoiding or running away from home, decline in school work, trying too hard to please or failure to connect with parents, lying and stealing, lack of trust in adults, etc.
He claims that emotional abuse can do as much damage to a child’s development as physical abuse so parents need to look for other disciplinary methods
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As Jon says in the video, just because a parent is not physically hitting their child doesn’t mean they don’t feel distress, which damages the undeveloped brain.
He also brings up another problem that is related to the specific example of the father making his daughter smash her phone. She is being taught that she must do as a man says even if she doesn’t want to, which may possibly lead her to get into and remain in an abusive relationship and that will be just another problem in her adult life.
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You can watch the video below
@wholeparent #stitch we have to think about the far reaching implications of our punishment. When we psychologically punish like this we don’t just hurt them in the moment we give them a lifelong wound. #emotionalabuseaware #abusiveparenting #parenting101 #kidbrainbasics ♬ original sound – Jon Fogel
Of course, every child is different, so it is hard to tell a parent what would work for them instead; however, they need to understand that the damage they do with emotional abuse is very hard to fix and is even harder to forget even when fixed, so it is important to do your research and look for a more gentle way to teach your children good behavior.
Did you know how harmful emotional abuse could be to your children? Do you think there are better ways to discipline your children and show them their behavior was wrong? Or do you think that parents and children are becoming too sensitive and as long as they are not hitting their children, they are fine? Let us know your view in the comments!
People in the comments were horrified by the initial clip, especially because they experienced emotional abuse as children as well
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If you’re filming your child being disciplined, you’re a sh*t parent. There’s no reason a camera should ever come out when punishing a child. That’s just cruel and disgusting.
I agree however, sometimes it's a good thing- for the child's sake that it does end up on video. That way things like this, and other forms of abuse can sometimes be identified and handled and/or there is evidence.
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This is shaming and not discipline. Social media platforms should police and ban videos like this. I did not watch it because people do this for views and money. Pathetic. People like these should be castrated. They do not deserve to be parents.
This kind of intense experience of being shamed is definitely teaching her young amygdala that she is a person worthy of shame and cannot trust herself or other people. How she sees herself has been changed for the worse and she is at great risk of living her life in a way that desperately seeks to avoid feeling that intense shame again through unhealthy habits of one sort or another. The dad will have won a round of dominance and will think he did a good job shaping her if she stops doing what got her into trouble out of her intense fear of experiencing such a thing again. I try to consider that the dad may have had good intentions, but I can just never understand people who are comfortable continuing to dish out "discipline" or shaming to a child in visible distress.
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This is just disgraceful on the dads part, their are so many ways to settle an issue than abuse. God forbid you site and have a talk with your child about why it isn't okay to talk like that, as children can't be smart enough to understand their wrongdoings without administering abuse of some kind! (I'm joking, if that wasn't obvious)
He's so pleased with himself...ugh, if punishing your child is giving you any kind of giddiness or power trip I would say you're doing it wrong.
I am not a fan of this father. What did this kid do to deserve this? “Disrespect” her parent, whatever the hell that means? I can see resorting to this kind of traumatic punishment if she were playing with a gun or something, because kids should associate danger with fear, but it doesn’t seem like this kid is going to learn a useful life lesson from this. Seems like she’ll just learn to fear authority and nothing more. Idk just my non-expert opinion.
I'm sure the Dad is one of those people who claim "I was spanked and turned out fine". No you didn't especially if you continue the cycle of abuse in your family. Consequences make the most sense in correcting a child's behavior. The adult has to be the adult in the situation at all times.
Ok I need to ask, is spanking abuse? Because I know it's legal, and I know plenty of people do it, but multiple of my friends have told me it's abuse, and one of them told me to call CPS on my parents if they beat me again, and while I have no plans to call CPS, I still wanted to ask.
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Someone should grab that hammer and smash the parents instead, if anything in this world is useless it's him and not that smartphone. That little girl deserves better than this a*****e.
Posting to hide an ad: Also, why are we not mentioning the fact that people are not only videoing themselves punishing their children, but then posting it to social media? For likes? Followers? Ego boost? At least she will have good documentation for future therapists or child protection services.
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As soon as a man starts smuggly "punishing" his child/ren -- usually girls -- for "disrespect," we know that he's likely the problem, not the child. Also, do you want your kids to grow up to be hoarders? Because this kind of trauma is how then end up hoarding, or never developing any attachments to anyone because it's just going to be taken away. Men like this don't care, though. They're sad, insecure little boys who get off on bullying others. I hope his kids put him in the worst rest home ever.
Yes. Sadly, although we know he's the problem here, she likely does not and is cementing it in her developing brain. She will have a hard time changing this view of herself even when she learns in the future that this wasn't right because the amygdala is a primal part of the brain that isn't easy to retrain.
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I can't believe someone actually thinks emotional abuse isn't abuse. It does just as much damage. It can cause emotional scars, low self-esteem and PTSD. (I still deal with it.)
They probably agree that emotional abuse is abuse. They just don't see what they're doing as abusive. Maybe because they had similarly damaging experiences as kids, or worse ones, and in comparison to that, this is better. Or maybe "what, I turned out fine, didn't I?" and get angry when one points out that there is no 'fine' when hurting (physical or psychological) someone younger, smaller, more vulnerable and completely dependent on them is a solution to any kind of problem.
Load More Replies... Stop humiliating your kids online for clout. End of story. Appropriate ways to discipline your kids is a whole separate conversation, but there is absolutely no scenario in which posting it on the internet is even a little bit okay. Public humiliation isn't discipline, it's abuse.
Agreed. I'd also add that humiliation should never be a parenting tool if you care about helping your child become a healthy adult.
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I'm 51 and still terrified of my mother And she didn't raise me, my grandma did. But my mom is still scary, uber scary.
Just take the phone away. Problem solved. I understand wanting to discipline a kid who is being a brat but stop allowing it. I see parents all the time telling their kids to stop behavior, but then give in 2 minutes later and give them treats, pay for phones, give in in some way. This is simple: take the phone away. When they get angry say "this is the consequence to your actions. No phone for a month and the next time you do it it will be 2 months. Remember this feeling." Then make sure you change the wifi passwords so they can't sign into the internet on a different device. Trust me, once they know that your punishments are real and you aren't going to give in, they'll stop. if that doesn't fix it then you need to step up to a more severe punishment but at no time do you have to put your hands on the kid or break something that is costly like this. Let her know privileges are to be earned. She has to earn it back.
You crawl up a tree and fall down, it hurts you. Lesson: be careful when crawling in trees. There is a logic behind that, which is easy to follow. Insult mom, phone gets taken away, it is hard to spot the link and reasoning behind that. Therefore it is easy to write off as mom being unreasonable. Smash a phone with a hammer, or have your phone taken away, to be honest, it is hard for me to see the difference between the two. The end result will be the same, no phone, and I would say that the damage and the "lecture", will therefore be about the same: mom/dad is unreasonable and is willing to hurt me in order to have it their way. That is not problem solved. You can take away a phone, when it is the phone that is the problem, e.g. because it is used to insult people on Facebook, but if it's only an action done to cause pain, it is a weird move, which will probably not teach your child much about cause and effect. Its like if you were busted in shoplifting resulted in us taking your car.
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I remember the video where the father shot the daughter's laptop, claiming in was "tough love" and I remember how pretty much everyone cheered about it. It was neither funny, nor healthy.
I wonder how much money those people have to decide that destroying electronics is just super-fine... I mean, the recession can'T be that bad, can it? How about, if they really need to punish someone, take the laptop away (after letting the kid save all the files they need!) and donate it to someone who needs it more? Destroying stuff is abusive and also super-dumb.
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the dad is punishing his daughter because “he was tired of her being disrespectful towards her mom”. so he’s making her smash her phone with a hammer. in the video the girl is crying, but the dad is telling her to hit the phone harder. (paraphrased from the article)
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We own a bike shop. A 70 something customer brought in a child sized bike. It is rusty and not in good shape. He wants it rideable so he can finally ride the bike his father gave him and then took when he couldn't ride it bc it was too big. His sister took it and kept it all these years. She died and he went and took it. The family is livid. That is what words can do to kids. A 70 yo man riding a child's bike to prove to a dead alcoholic father that he can. Words hurt...and for a long time.
Forcing your daughter to destroy a perfectly good phone which was probably bought with your own money will surely make her respect her mother more, right. I wish insecure parents stopped calling their power trips "discipline". He also posted it publicly, so the whole world could see that a grown-a*s man has power over an 8-year-old kid. Pathetic.
my mother would do way worse than this if i got a toy for Christmas or my birthday. i would have it for that day and then it went into the trash. i didn't even do anything wrong so it was not a punishment for bad behavior. and when i did do something wrong it was the leather belt with the metal loops that connected the leather. when i got older i was the youngest. any time i did something she didn't like she would call everyone in the family to tell them what i did. they were all much older than me so i would hear it six times and what a loser i was.my mother was extremely cruel with her tactics.
The dad is WASTING HIS MONEY cause HE was probably the one who payed for the phone in the first place
All she will learn from that is that her dad can be a cruel being to be around, who will sometimes act completely irrational, and hence that she can never predict what will happen. What exactly is the link between being disrespectful of the mother and having a phone? None what so ever, the phone is just a way to hurt her, as pain aparantly is his way of controlling her actions. This can only end in two ways, either he will break her down, so much that she will be an anxious wreck, who will never trust him or anybody else, will isolate herself out of fear, and cling on to him as he is the only human around, or, can we hope her sake, she will realise what a terrible person he is, and cut him out of her life, leaving him wandering what happened, when he is rotting in a retirement home. Your job as a parent is to help your child understand how the world works, and what consiquences their actions bring, not to introduce artifical consiquenses, like these designed in order to control them.
Children are usually emotionally attached to what they own. I was too emotionally attached to whatever I had, I'd take care of them like they were living things. This is no better than telling the child to take their pet's life. If someone had made me destroy something I owned this way, I would've never ever forgiven them... and I would've been scarred for life.
have current parents not learned about grounding their kids? about "you did something wrong, you don't have access to X thing that you love for, say, a week"? you don't have to destroy property and emotionally scar your kids for life to make your point, jesus christ.
This is a case of an idiot who is too lazy to actually parent his kid AND is willing to p**s HUNDREDS of dollars down the toilet. He paid for that phone... idiot on every level.
I would argue that emotional abuse is worse than physical abuse. If you tell someone you don't speak to your parents as an adult because they used to hit you, they generally are understanding. But if you tell them it waa because they emotionally abused you they'll say "but those are your parents. They're family!", "they were just raised in different times", or "I'm sure they love you"
Please don't say something like that. Abuse is abuse and it's all wrong. For a person that may have been a victim of physical abuse to hear or see a comment like that is very scaring. It's like telling them that their experience doesn't matter because it's not as bad as others.
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He's wearing a ball cap with American flag on it, which is usually the look favored by conservatives. Especially Trumpers. Not a total coincidence I don't think......
I'm no Trump fan, but emotional abuse can occur in every type of family.
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no it is not good dicipline. It is a desperate/lazy move for someone with no empathy, who is bullying his will through by using pain as his go to tool, probably because he cannot imagine/spot all the side effect and scaring it will cause. Though filming it did certainly not make things better, it is the action not the filming that is the prime issue.
Load More Replies... Is it just me or isn't parenting like 95% making your child do something they didn't want? So according to OP everybody is abusing their child, or I have missed something.
You not only missed it, you weren’t even up and dressed and walking to the stop.
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Regardless of the whole story, this man is absolutely in the wrong for posting this situation on social media, at the very, very least. It should never be a parenting goal to instill shame in a child.
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How would you like your boss or any figure of authority posting a disciplinary action against you in social media? Just because she is a kid does not mean she is not deserving of respect and privacy.
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I really hope you're infertile and not able to adopt, with your attitude i wouldn't even trust a goldfish in your hands, you heartless trashcan of a human being.
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Take away kids' things as a consequence of bad behaviour by all means and it's not abuse, but posting the child's punishment online for the whole world to see and denying her privacy in a way that's in the public domain forever, that's the abusive part.
Load More Replies... If you’re filming your child being disciplined, you’re a sh*t parent. There’s no reason a camera should ever come out when punishing a child. That’s just cruel and disgusting.
I agree however, sometimes it's a good thing- for the child's sake that it does end up on video. That way things like this, and other forms of abuse can sometimes be identified and handled and/or there is evidence.
Load More Replies... This is shaming and not discipline. Social media platforms should police and ban videos like this. I did not watch it because people do this for views and money. Pathetic. People like these should be castrated. They do not deserve to be parents.
This kind of intense experience of being shamed is definitely teaching her young amygdala that she is a person worthy of shame and cannot trust herself or other people. How she sees herself has been changed for the worse and she is at great risk of living her life in a way that desperately seeks to avoid feeling that intense shame again through unhealthy habits of one sort or another. The dad will have won a round of dominance and will think he did a good job shaping her if she stops doing what got her into trouble out of her intense fear of experiencing such a thing again. I try to consider that the dad may have had good intentions, but I can just never understand people who are comfortable continuing to dish out "discipline" or shaming to a child in visible distress.
Load More Replies... This is just disgraceful on the dads part, their are so many ways to settle an issue than abuse. God forbid you site and have a talk with your child about why it isn't okay to talk like that, as children can't be smart enough to understand their wrongdoings without administering abuse of some kind! (I'm joking, if that wasn't obvious)
He's so pleased with himself...ugh, if punishing your child is giving you any kind of giddiness or power trip I would say you're doing it wrong.
I am not a fan of this father. What did this kid do to deserve this? “Disrespect” her parent, whatever the hell that means? I can see resorting to this kind of traumatic punishment if she were playing with a gun or something, because kids should associate danger with fear, but it doesn’t seem like this kid is going to learn a useful life lesson from this. Seems like she’ll just learn to fear authority and nothing more. Idk just my non-expert opinion.
I'm sure the Dad is one of those people who claim "I was spanked and turned out fine". No you didn't especially if you continue the cycle of abuse in your family. Consequences make the most sense in correcting a child's behavior. The adult has to be the adult in the situation at all times.
Ok I need to ask, is spanking abuse? Because I know it's legal, and I know plenty of people do it, but multiple of my friends have told me it's abuse, and one of them told me to call CPS on my parents if they beat me again, and while I have no plans to call CPS, I still wanted to ask.
Load More Replies... Someone should grab that hammer and smash the parents instead, if anything in this world is useless it's him and not that smartphone. That little girl deserves better than this a*****e.
Posting to hide an ad: Also, why are we not mentioning the fact that people are not only videoing themselves punishing their children, but then posting it to social media? For likes? Followers? Ego boost? At least she will have good documentation for future therapists or child protection services.
Load More Replies... As soon as a man starts smuggly "punishing" his child/ren -- usually girls -- for "disrespect," we know that he's likely the problem, not the child. Also, do you want your kids to grow up to be hoarders? Because this kind of trauma is how then end up hoarding, or never developing any attachments to anyone because it's just going to be taken away. Men like this don't care, though. They're sad, insecure little boys who get off on bullying others. I hope his kids put him in the worst rest home ever.
Yes. Sadly, although we know he's the problem here, she likely does not and is cementing it in her developing brain. She will have a hard time changing this view of herself even when she learns in the future that this wasn't right because the amygdala is a primal part of the brain that isn't easy to retrain.
Load More Replies... I can't believe someone actually thinks emotional abuse isn't abuse. It does just as much damage. It can cause emotional scars, low self-esteem and PTSD. (I still deal with it.)
They probably agree that emotional abuse is abuse. They just don't see what they're doing as abusive. Maybe because they had similarly damaging experiences as kids, or worse ones, and in comparison to that, this is better. Or maybe "what, I turned out fine, didn't I?" and get angry when one points out that there is no 'fine' when hurting (physical or psychological) someone younger, smaller, more vulnerable and completely dependent on them is a solution to any kind of problem.
Load More Replies... Stop humiliating your kids online for clout. End of story. Appropriate ways to discipline your kids is a whole separate conversation, but there is absolutely no scenario in which posting it on the internet is even a little bit okay. Public humiliation isn't discipline, it's abuse.
Agreed. I'd also add that humiliation should never be a parenting tool if you care about helping your child become a healthy adult.
Load More Replies... I'm 51 and still terrified of my mother And she didn't raise me, my grandma did. But my mom is still scary, uber scary.
Just take the phone away. Problem solved. I understand wanting to discipline a kid who is being a brat but stop allowing it. I see parents all the time telling their kids to stop behavior, but then give in 2 minutes later and give them treats, pay for phones, give in in some way. This is simple: take the phone away. When they get angry say "this is the consequence to your actions. No phone for a month and the next time you do it it will be 2 months. Remember this feeling." Then make sure you change the wifi passwords so they can't sign into the internet on a different device. Trust me, once they know that your punishments are real and you aren't going to give in, they'll stop. if that doesn't fix it then you need to step up to a more severe punishment but at no time do you have to put your hands on the kid or break something that is costly like this. Let her know privileges are to be earned. She has to earn it back.
You crawl up a tree and fall down, it hurts you. Lesson: be careful when crawling in trees. There is a logic behind that, which is easy to follow. Insult mom, phone gets taken away, it is hard to spot the link and reasoning behind that. Therefore it is easy to write off as mom being unreasonable. Smash a phone with a hammer, or have your phone taken away, to be honest, it is hard for me to see the difference between the two. The end result will be the same, no phone, and I would say that the damage and the "lecture", will therefore be about the same: mom/dad is unreasonable and is willing to hurt me in order to have it their way. That is not problem solved. You can take away a phone, when it is the phone that is the problem, e.g. because it is used to insult people on Facebook, but if it's only an action done to cause pain, it is a weird move, which will probably not teach your child much about cause and effect. Its like if you were busted in shoplifting resulted in us taking your car.
Load More Replies... I remember the video where the father shot the daughter's laptop, claiming in was "tough love" and I remember how pretty much everyone cheered about it. It was neither funny, nor healthy.
I wonder how much money those people have to decide that destroying electronics is just super-fine... I mean, the recession can'T be that bad, can it? How about, if they really need to punish someone, take the laptop away (after letting the kid save all the files they need!) and donate it to someone who needs it more? Destroying stuff is abusive and also super-dumb.
Load More Replies... the dad is punishing his daughter because “he was tired of her being disrespectful towards her mom”. so he’s making her smash her phone with a hammer. in the video the girl is crying, but the dad is telling her to hit the phone harder. (paraphrased from the article)
Load More Replies... We own a bike shop. A 70 something customer brought in a child sized bike. It is rusty and not in good shape. He wants it rideable so he can finally ride the bike his father gave him and then took when he couldn't ride it bc it was too big. His sister took it and kept it all these years. She died and he went and took it. The family is livid. That is what words can do to kids. A 70 yo man riding a child's bike to prove to a dead alcoholic father that he can. Words hurt...and for a long time.
Forcing your daughter to destroy a perfectly good phone which was probably bought with your own money will surely make her respect her mother more, right. I wish insecure parents stopped calling their power trips "discipline". He also posted it publicly, so the whole world could see that a grown-a*s man has power over an 8-year-old kid. Pathetic.
my mother would do way worse than this if i got a toy for Christmas or my birthday. i would have it for that day and then it went into the trash. i didn't even do anything wrong so it was not a punishment for bad behavior. and when i did do something wrong it was the leather belt with the metal loops that connected the leather. when i got older i was the youngest. any time i did something she didn't like she would call everyone in the family to tell them what i did. they were all much older than me so i would hear it six times and what a loser i was.my mother was extremely cruel with her tactics.
The dad is WASTING HIS MONEY cause HE was probably the one who payed for the phone in the first place
All she will learn from that is that her dad can be a cruel being to be around, who will sometimes act completely irrational, and hence that she can never predict what will happen. What exactly is the link between being disrespectful of the mother and having a phone? None what so ever, the phone is just a way to hurt her, as pain aparantly is his way of controlling her actions. This can only end in two ways, either he will break her down, so much that she will be an anxious wreck, who will never trust him or anybody else, will isolate herself out of fear, and cling on to him as he is the only human around, or, can we hope her sake, she will realise what a terrible person he is, and cut him out of her life, leaving him wandering what happened, when he is rotting in a retirement home. Your job as a parent is to help your child understand how the world works, and what consiquences their actions bring, not to introduce artifical consiquenses, like these designed in order to control them.
Children are usually emotionally attached to what they own. I was too emotionally attached to whatever I had, I'd take care of them like they were living things. This is no better than telling the child to take their pet's life. If someone had made me destroy something I owned this way, I would've never ever forgiven them... and I would've been scarred for life.
have current parents not learned about grounding their kids? about "you did something wrong, you don't have access to X thing that you love for, say, a week"? you don't have to destroy property and emotionally scar your kids for life to make your point, jesus christ.
This is a case of an idiot who is too lazy to actually parent his kid AND is willing to p**s HUNDREDS of dollars down the toilet. He paid for that phone... idiot on every level.
I would argue that emotional abuse is worse than physical abuse. If you tell someone you don't speak to your parents as an adult because they used to hit you, they generally are understanding. But if you tell them it waa because they emotionally abused you they'll say "but those are your parents. They're family!", "they were just raised in different times", or "I'm sure they love you"
Please don't say something like that. Abuse is abuse and it's all wrong. For a person that may have been a victim of physical abuse to hear or see a comment like that is very scaring. It's like telling them that their experience doesn't matter because it's not as bad as others.
Load More Replies... He's wearing a ball cap with American flag on it, which is usually the look favored by conservatives. Especially Trumpers. Not a total coincidence I don't think......
I'm no Trump fan, but emotional abuse can occur in every type of family.
Load More Replies... no it is not good dicipline. It is a desperate/lazy move for someone with no empathy, who is bullying his will through by using pain as his go to tool, probably because he cannot imagine/spot all the side effect and scaring it will cause. Though filming it did certainly not make things better, it is the action not the filming that is the prime issue.
Load More Replies... Is it just me or isn't parenting like 95% making your child do something they didn't want? So according to OP everybody is abusing their child, or I have missed something.
You not only missed it, you weren’t even up and dressed and walking to the stop.
Load More Replies... Regardless of the whole story, this man is absolutely in the wrong for posting this situation on social media, at the very, very least. It should never be a parenting goal to instill shame in a child.
Load More Replies... How would you like your boss or any figure of authority posting a disciplinary action against you in social media? Just because she is a kid does not mean she is not deserving of respect and privacy.
Load More Replies... I really hope you're infertile and not able to adopt, with your attitude i wouldn't even trust a goldfish in your hands, you heartless trashcan of a human being.
Load More Replies... Take away kids' things as a consequence of bad behaviour by all means and it's not abuse, but posting the child's punishment online for the whole world to see and denying her privacy in a way that's in the public domain forever, that's the abusive part.
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