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Dad Asks If He Was Wrong For Making A Woman Cry After She Told Him How To Wipe And Tried To Dress His Baby Daughter
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Dad Asks If He Was Wrong For Making A Woman Cry After She Told Him How To Wipe And Tried To Dress His Baby Daughter

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Changing a baby’s diaper in public is a surprisingly (or is it, really?) divisive issue. When you’re a parent to one, then there’s little choice you have if you’re out on errands, unprepared or without someone to look after your other kids. And as for the onlookers, the sight may indeed spark some thoughts, comments and even… advice on wiping strategies.

Yep, you heard it right. This is precisely what happened to one dad who took his three-month-old twins out to the supermarket. “While shopping, my daughter pooped, and I mean she POOPED. There’s no changing tables in the men’s room and there was no family bathroom,” the dad explained in a post on r/AITA. After the barista at Starbucks gave him a green light to change the baby in the back, he got to work.

But there was also this “older woman in her late 40s–early 50s” who had a couple of things to share with dad. He did not welcome it well, so scroll through the whole story right below to see how it ended.

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“While shopping my daughter pooped,” he wrote, and since there were no family bathrooms or changing tables in the men’s room, he decided to change the baby daughter in public

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But there was a lady who not only came forward to criticize dad’s “wiping style,” but also did what felt like crossing the line to him

At this point, dad called the stranger woman a creep, something he now wonders whether it was the right thing to do

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For people who  are genuinely wondering why dad decided to change the baby right there in the back of the Starbucks, this is what he had to explain

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To find out more about the diaper duty and all the questions that come with it, from whether it’s fine to do it in public and what public spaces are not meant for it, we spoke with Marissa McKenna, a mom to four who owns Mommy Knows What’s Best, a parenting blog. Her mission is to provide practical solutions that can work for almost every kind of family, based on what she knows works for her family.

“When you need to change a diaper in public, there are a few extra things to think about that you wouldn’t worry about at home: Is there a safe space to lay down the baby? Is the space clean enough for the baby? Is it a blowout that may require extra supplies or help? If you cloth diaper, are you prepared to store the soiled diaper in your bag until you get home? Who is around that may be watching? If you have another child with you, who’s going to keep an eye on that child so you can manage the diaper change?”

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Marissa added that an experienced parent would know what to expect, but for a new parent, the first public diaper change could be a daunting task. “It’s all about being prepared when you bring your baby out in public places,” she added.

And this is what people commented on this whole incident

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There are definite public spaces where you should not change a baby’s diaper, “such as bathroom sinks, a restaurant table, a shopping cart, airplane seat, or the tops of picnic tables. Basically, you should not change a diaper anywhere someone else may eat, wash their hands, or even sit themselves,” Marissa explained.

“Another public space to avoid is the floor in the middle of an aisle in a store or library. Not only might you have an audience, you may encounter someone who has a weak stomach who may not want to see a diaper mess when they’re shopping or browsing for books.” Marissa added that also, if you’re going to change a baby’s diaper in a vehicle, be sure the vehicle is safely parked and not in motion.

Other people shared just how shocked they were about the dad changing her diaper on a table in a cafe

Ideally, if you have to change diapers in public, the best place to do it would be in a clean bathroom with a clean changing table without an audience, Marissa explained. “Of course, we all know that always isn’t an option, so some other places to change a diaper would include: a changing room in a store; a bench in a park away from others; a secluded spot in the grass in an outdoor settings; in a parked car, either in the back hatch with rear seats down or the back seat; if the baby is small enough, you might also be able to change a diaper while the baby is on your lap in a secluded spot.”

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This is how the procedure would look: “Before you begin, get all of your supplies out and ready to go. Keep everything within reach. Make sure that no matter what space you choose, you place a diaper changing mat or blanket under the baby to protect the surface from the diaper mess and to protect the baby’s skin.”

Meanwhile, for those parents who are worried about an audience in any public space, you can cover the baby’s parts with a wipe, burp cloth, or small blankie. “And of course, clean up the surface when you are finished and properly dispose of the diaper,” she added.

Image credits: Felipe Salgado (not the actual photo)

When asked why there’s so much backlash against diaper changing in public Marissa explained that “to us adults, going to the bathroom is a private event, unless of course you’re a mom with little kids. We don’t want to see or smell other people’s waste, especially when we’re eating or drinking. And if you’re someone with a weak stomach, it can ruin your day.”

She continued: “I think any backlash comes when a parent tries to change a baby’s diaper on a surface or in a place that is used by the general public to eat or drink or even sit. No matter how tiny the baby is, it just isn’t right.”

Image credits: Kelli McClintock (not the actual photo)

In order to avoid backlash or pressure from others, be prepared before you even leave the house, Marissa suggests. “Stock up the diaper bag. Do a little research about the place you will be visiting to see if there are clean public restrooms and where they are located. If there won’t be any clean public restrooms, is there an outdoor space you can use or can you park your car close to where you will be?”

“Of course, if you can’t totally avoid being around people during the diaper change, be ready to hear and then ignore some comments. As long as you are changing the baby in a safe, clean space and you’re avoiding eating/drinking/sitting surfaces, you’ll be just fine. A baby is gonna do what a baby is gonna do, and there’s no avoiding it,” the blog author concluded.

Get more of Marissa’s useful and informative parenting tips, advice, and insights on her website Mommy Knows What’s Best.

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Roxy Eastland
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I can't be the only one that hates the phrase ''I was just trying to help' when the help was not asked for, welcome, or in fact in any way helpful?

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Just saying
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If you think someone needs help, you should offer to help, not dive straight in

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lenka
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

1. Men's rooms should have baby changing tables. 2. The old biddy was out of line.

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Beth L
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

All of this. Don't blame the dad for using a table if there isn't a baby changing station he has access to. This isn't a new problem.

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Hans
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In Scandinavia (and fortunately, in an increasing number of other places) it is just normal that men restrooms have the same diaper changing equipment as women restroom, or that a baby changing station is included in a spacious unisex restroom, which typically serves as a wheelchair-user toilet as well. I think having changing stations only in women restrooms is sexist.

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Hugo Raible
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When there was no changing station in the men's bathroom, I just went into the women's, didn't even ask and never had any bad reaction from the women there who appreciated a guy doing the baby service. Not my problem that they didn't have a changing station in the men's room.

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Marianne
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA. A stranger touching my baby in public during a global pandemic? I think not.

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Lillukka79
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Pandemic or not, you do not touch others no matter how small they are.

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UpupaEpops
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm saying this as a woman. The s**t women can get away with just because they are women is insane.

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Kt
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Right? A simple gender reversal scenario would tell everyone that this man did not overreact at all! If it had been him watching a woman wipe a child after changing a nappy, and then touching them without permission, he would have been hauled off . Women just think they can get away woth everything!

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Laura Watts
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wow if you've gotta change ur kid then things happen he was on a back table with permission no fault for him . Also I understand people offering to help but you don't criticise another parents wiping ( like seriously why you looking you weirdo ) and a to dressing she should have offered her help not just assume that as a woman she has rights over all children

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Liam Walsh
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Maybe if a parent is visibly struggling you might ask if they need help but that's all - then the choice is theirs whether or not they take you up on it or not and what help they require. I've held or distracted children for parents when they've needed to focus on another but otherwise you let them do what they need to do without interference.

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Helena Houzarová
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The two ESH commenters at the end clearly can't read with comprehension. OP asked employees if he could change his daughter on that table; if letting him in the ladies' was an option, the employees could have and should have suggested it. But they okayed OP's plan.

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Irma
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

At my work we just have one bathroom stall with a changing table in it. No mens or womens bathrooms. I really dont see a problem with that either and as far as i know nobody does.

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Nikki Sevven
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA. She was creepy, and could easily have snatched the baby and ran. Do NOT touch other people's children.

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Terran
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA. The woman's actions might have been well intended, but as a saying in my country goes: well intended is the opposite of well done.

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ThEboRedEsTpANdA
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I love the reply he made to one of the comments about his wife carrying around a fly swatter when she was preg

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Irma
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Agreed it was funny. Also sad. People here are saying dont touch peoples kids. Which is true. But also dont touch people you dont know in general. I dont want people touching my belly or trying to lift my shirt. Why on earth would that be normal

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Alexandra Davis
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The last comment makes me so angry. He was in no way at all in the wrong.

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Alexis Draskinis
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

1: men have kids/babies, they should have changing tables in the men's room. 2: yeah, he couldve done it somewhere else but he did ask, get their ok, & since they knew they'd know to clean the table afterwards & sanitize it so no shame from me there. As an ex server, ive seen plenty of folks just do it & then leave the mess (including diaper) for me to clean. 3rd: if she wanted to help or thought he needed it, she couldve just asked & this wouldn't be a creep story anymore. Ive had people ask me if i needed help when my kid was a baby. If i did i said "sure" & let them know how they could help. If i didnt i said "no thanks i got this" & continued with my day. Ive asked others if they needed help & if they take it great! If they dont then they do what they're doing knowing help is around if they change their mind

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Irma
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I agree with you and wish everyone was like that. But the amount of people that are insulted or the 'suit yourself' attitude when you dont want them to help

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Me Oh My
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Oh boy! NTA. That lady WAS a creep. I probably would have called her names far worse than creep, tbh.

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Lord Mysticlaw
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Just by the way, the title is pretty misleading. I expected (from the title) that the woman thought the dad needed advice on wiping because it's really important for females to wipe front to back and that's not necessarily something a male would think of and in that case I might have given her a pass.

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lenka
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He is not just a 'male'. He is the baby's father and I am sure he knows how to properly care for her. My husband was perfectly capable for looking after our babies (son AND daughter) and knew exactly how to change a diaper and clean his little girl without some nosy intrusive person insisting that he didn't know how to care for his child.

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lightbulb
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

God that one comment. "yOuR eNtItLeMeNt Is AsToUnDiNg". What entitlement? Being a dad just caring for his baby? Come on.

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John Baker
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As someone in the post's comments pointed out, if a man had done the same thing, he'd probably have been arrested. Why should a woman get a free pass? I'm sure she was only trying to help, but her help was neither asked for nor needed. NTA.

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Trillian
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Completely right to tell her to back off, but could have left out the creep. I get that he's annoyed and a bit stressed (I would have been if I had to change my poop-exploded daughter in Starbucks bc nobody provided a changing table where I could get at it) so yeah, that happens. Nothing that a grown ass woman should start crying about.

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April Stephens
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I wonder if she was crying because her feelings were hurt, because she was ashamed, or a combination.

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Sarah
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA, not by a long shot. No one has a right to touch your child! A total stranger should not be stepping in to tell a parent how to care for their kids either but, man, actually laying hands on someone else's kid? And also, why men's bathrooms don't have changing tables is beyond me. My sister has three little girls and I know her husband sometimes had a hell of a time finding a place to change them when she wasn't with them.

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Nunya Bus
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The problem ultimately is the lack of baby facilities that men can access. Its terrible that he'd even have to ask to the use the ladies room to change his child let alone have to think of that. The problem is Society is TA for making it seem weird for men to take care of their children. The double standards for when they're a little older too. This dad can take his son into the restroom with him and his wife can take the daughter AND the son with her into the restroom until a certain age, but the dad could never take his daughter into the restroom. It's so freaking stupid, pointless and complicated. So that's the ultimate problem. And if he asked to use a table why is the onus on him to request the ladies room with a changing table with an escort? The employees could have suggested that too. I don't think he's anymore or less wrong for not thinking of that idea then the employees for not suggesting it and them actually saying it was ok to use the table.

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Nunya Bus
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

to continue, if he had just straight up used a table without asking that would be gross but he was very upfront and polite about it. Lastly, don't touch other people's children. Don't assume they need help unless you can actually see a child about to roll off the counter or run into traffic then you get a free(and I hope a very welcomed) pass.

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Sum Guy
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The one thing I really appreciated is the Barista saying it's okay without a problem (at least the story makes it seem like they were just okay with it)

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Lea S.
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ohmygoodness people with changing the kid on the table. He didn't take the poopy diaper and rub it into the surface. He had a changing pad for f***s sake. The manager okayed it. That's all that matters.

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buttonpusher
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This would piss me off too. Along with those who stick their oar in when a child is throwing a tantrum. "Of that was my child I'd..." "Yeah well he's not your child so f**k off!" And male toilets need baby change stations. And I am so glad my kids are way past the poopy blow-out stage. Omg that was a nightmare. It's like a grenade went off.

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Bobby
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Do. Not. Touch. Children. Saving a life? Sure. Stopping abuse? You bet. Being "helpful?" Not without asking.

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Aleksandra
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Women can be kidnappers too. Sure some people really want to help and all, but don't let strangers touch or pick up your little child and especially if you're a man and the stranger is a woman - people are more likely to believe that woman that she's the real parent than belive to a man.

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Karis Ravenhill
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA. You don't touch other people's children without their permission, END OF STORY. You don't butt in on someone else's parenting if they're managing ok. The man did the right thing since there were no changing facilities available to men with children, and I appreciate his consideration at not wanting to accidentally scare women in the female toilets because he's a very large man. Also, you don't leave your daughter sitting in her own sh*t, that's how females get UTI's and other infections, he did the right thing not waiting until he got home to change her. This guy is so considerate and will make a wonderful spouse/father. After how much I was grabbed at and molested as a child, if someone came up and tried to touch my child without my permission i'd scream and punch them, this old biddie got off lightly from the situation, a man with less manners would've decked her for touching his daughter.

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Vladimíra Matejová
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I dont get it why in some buildings there are separate toilets for men and then separate toilets for women+disabled+changing tables for babies and they are the same size. like why? changing rooms should not be part of the toilets, there should be a separate room for it so either gender could go there. and both men and women toilets should be for disabled too

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Bobert Robertson
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Where are the feminists and equal rights people with this issue of lack of change tables in men's washrooms? It drives me nuts that I've had to change my kids on countertops in bathrooms so many times. When you finally find one with a change table it feels like I've found Atlantis

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Lauren Caswell
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There is push on this. Equality means equality. You ask where the feminists are, but I really hope you know a 'feminist' can be any gender(you probably do, no offense is intended here). The reason some bathrooms now have change tables for men is because of 'feminists', and no, some of the bathrooms is not enough. Feel free to add your voice, if you aren't already doing so, to the cause. Write to your local government. Push for change 👍

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Anne Helene Meen
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA! Hell, I work temp in kindergardens, and the one rule I follow above all is you do not push yourself onto others. Especially the littlest ones! The only exceptions are emergencies and imminent physical injuries. Some kids need to observe a new caretaker before seeking them out, others use you as a climbing frame 5 sec after you enter the room. You do not touch a baby without their parents permission! This lady was way out of line, if you can't respect someone setting boundaries you have no right to be shocked when they snap. (I'm gonna steal the flyswatter trick if I ever get pregnant)

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

sometimes in can be accepted by a visito a nurse being happilypregnan responded pleasantly to my inquiry of what did she hope for prefaeing my enquiey wih "my deae what are you hoping for-told me some healh sone to be playing games wih Dadda I said God Bless a nw wee soul kiss my own hane an eeached our - visitor leaned forwar for me to pat her ttum and beamed smiling when said God Bless you little love depending upon circumstances a kind exchange

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Janice Parks
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This lady probably grew up being socialized to fuss over babies. Hers. Mine. Yours. Everyone’s. Lord only knows why but its true. I think its a trait shared by most social animals such as humans. Seeing a baby or baby clothes or, yes, even baby poop can get a woman’s hormones racing especially, in my opinion, those who are coming to the near end of their fertility. She probably just felt a need to fuss over your baby and lost her inhibitions for the moment. You didn’t need it to be mean unless you suspected her intentions were nefarious in which case your reaction fit the situation. If this ever happens again maybe you can just say thank you but I’ve got this. The lady may appreciate hearing that you don’t let strangers touch your children. By allowing her a moment to pull herself back you’ll find you don’t need to growl at her unless she escalates the situation.

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I'mNotARoboat
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Anyone saying ESH are also assholes. I don't care if he was changing the baby on a table in the back area. He had permission and it is much better than a filthy bathroom floor. He did what he needed to do and the family was harrased with unwanted attention and touching. She did not have permission to touch his baby. SHE IS a creep. Don't touch other peoples' kids.

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Nina
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Should have had the woman arrested for trying to touch your daughter. Could you imagine if the roles were reversed? The creepo man would've been crucified. You're a great dad and that cow deserved to cry about how much of a judgemental AH she was. Dad's get such s**t for being a good dad, it's unbelievable.

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rabbit
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

About the use of the bathroom labeled for the opposite gender. It's just a sign. When I go in it's the women's room. When he goes in it's the men's room. Just make sure someone checks it out first to be sure no one is there - one gender at a time.

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Tamara Kroonen
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA but, he could also went straight home to change her and come back later to finish groceries, since it was a 5 minute walk from home he says.

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Emmydearest
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm guessing you've never had to attend to a baby who pooped like a thunderstorm: poop out of the diaper, on the clothes... You'd definitely want to change them as soon as possible, and surely don't want to put them in a carrier because that would mean:💁 poop in the carrier. And we're not talking about "solid"; it's a mess. A. MESS.

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Changing a baby on a table is gross, but the lady’s behaviour was grosser.

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I call BS on this guy. I'm going to go ahead and guess that the guy who has the full-time stay at home wife/slave is not as educated on how to properly clean and change his child. He probably was wiping the wrong way and doing other things that this woman noticed. Was it her business? Beyond this obvious health code violation in a public place, nope. But I'll bet that prompted it. Violate public sanitation norms and you can expect people to assume you're incompetent and in need of assistance.

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Monika Rhodes
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Dude, that lady was out of line- that was the point of this. Geez you karens look for a problem at any cost.

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Hindsight is always 20/20. Especially in this case. Both parties here are in the wrong. The lady should have asked if he needed help before she intruded in his space. The guy should have never used a public table to change a baby with a messy diaper. I don't believe the woman was a menace at all, probably seeing how he has twins and thinking he could use some help. The guy clearly was not prepared for a situation like this.

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Kt
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Please enlighten us as to how you prepare for a baby having a big, smelly, gross s**t? I would love to know!

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This smells like BS, as most of the 'Stories' are on Boredpanda.

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April Stephens
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I love reading these even if they're made up. I thought you could not back carry until around 6 months. Maybe that 3-month-old has really good neck control or it is a better baby carrier than those that I am aware of... Otherwise, this situation seems pretty plausible to me. And one way or another, it's an interesting story.

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While the whole store smacks of BS ( 6'7" + a backpack carrier+ inside is not likely) my guess is that he was wiping back to front and on a little girl is indeed wrong

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youre in a grocery store you use the WOMANS WASHROOM THATS ONLY MADE FOR ONE PERSON AT A TIME. This is 2021 and you wont find a mens room with out a change table anywhere in north america.

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Ok, someone dressing your baby without your permission is a little bit strange. But it is stranger to change a diaper and clean (seemingly a lot of) s**t on a table where someone else will sit and drink coffee, it's gross. And what backwards country do you live in where a male doesn't have a dedicated spot to change a diaper?? It's not the 50's anymore, is it?

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I got to be honest here...This poster is the asshole. Not because he didn't want the stranger to touch his kid, but because he was rude and started name calling. He is NTA for not wanting her to touch his child he ITA for being a jerk about it. "Thank you for your help, but I'd rather you not touch my child" would have been a better response.

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Emmydearest
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Would you be ok if a stranger came and started touching your coat? Or your purse? I'd say no... And isn't your baby more "precious" than your purse? So, yes, if a stranger comes and starts touching and clothing your baby you definitely are entitled to some "roughness". Could he have been more polite? Sure. But is he in the wrong? No.

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If there’s no change table and I won’t be much longer, I’ll let the baby sit in their own mess. Not that big of a deal.

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KimB
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ugh really?!? Yeah no big deal until the kid ends up with fungal diaper rash... I'm sorry but no! Leaving the baby sit in the mess isn't the answer and the OP said it was a big "blow out" and was on her clothes also...ALL public restrooms should have a changing table for babies

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YTA - you did not need to insult her. yes she was wrong for not ASKING if you needed help.... But Your reaction has now guaranteed she will never offer help again. We have gotten to be such an angry and RUDE society, that it actually is making me sick. Most of us boomers were raised to help our fellow man/ woman/ child. Now it seems most want it every man for himself. My roommate was once walking home from the store, he fell down and could not get up. he was crying for help and although many people walked past and got in their cars and drove away, not one person stopped to offer assistance or even call for a cop / or ambulance. It took me 20 min to get there to help him, and all you could see was an old man on the ground crying.

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KimB
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Big difference in someone asking for help vs going up to a random stranger and first telling him he's wiping his own daughter incorrectly he politely told her he knew what he was doing. She tried to take over and dress his baby and he told her to stop and she was being a creep because at that point she WAS a creep he told her flat out he didn't need her help and she continued to try and help where help was not needed. As far as your friend that's simply awful that not one person would help him but in their defense there's a lot of shady people in this world and some use ruses like faking an injury to get people in a vulnerable situation in order to rob them ( a good example is serial killer Ted Bundy pretended to have a broken arm complete with a fake cast to lure his victims into helping him)

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It's weird and you were right for telling her to stop and leave, but calling her a creep was unnecessary. She wasn't being creepy.

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Ben Smith
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Grabbing another persons child without the parents consent is not just creepy, it's damn near criminal. Creep is the nicest of the words I would have called her.

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Roxy Eastland
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I can't be the only one that hates the phrase ''I was just trying to help' when the help was not asked for, welcome, or in fact in any way helpful?

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Just saying
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If you think someone needs help, you should offer to help, not dive straight in

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lenka
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

1. Men's rooms should have baby changing tables. 2. The old biddy was out of line.

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Beth L
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

All of this. Don't blame the dad for using a table if there isn't a baby changing station he has access to. This isn't a new problem.

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Hans
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In Scandinavia (and fortunately, in an increasing number of other places) it is just normal that men restrooms have the same diaper changing equipment as women restroom, or that a baby changing station is included in a spacious unisex restroom, which typically serves as a wheelchair-user toilet as well. I think having changing stations only in women restrooms is sexist.

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Hugo Raible
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When there was no changing station in the men's bathroom, I just went into the women's, didn't even ask and never had any bad reaction from the women there who appreciated a guy doing the baby service. Not my problem that they didn't have a changing station in the men's room.

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Marianne
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA. A stranger touching my baby in public during a global pandemic? I think not.

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Lillukka79
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Pandemic or not, you do not touch others no matter how small they are.

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UpupaEpops
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm saying this as a woman. The s**t women can get away with just because they are women is insane.

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Kt
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Right? A simple gender reversal scenario would tell everyone that this man did not overreact at all! If it had been him watching a woman wipe a child after changing a nappy, and then touching them without permission, he would have been hauled off . Women just think they can get away woth everything!

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Laura Watts
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wow if you've gotta change ur kid then things happen he was on a back table with permission no fault for him . Also I understand people offering to help but you don't criticise another parents wiping ( like seriously why you looking you weirdo ) and a to dressing she should have offered her help not just assume that as a woman she has rights over all children

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Liam Walsh
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Maybe if a parent is visibly struggling you might ask if they need help but that's all - then the choice is theirs whether or not they take you up on it or not and what help they require. I've held or distracted children for parents when they've needed to focus on another but otherwise you let them do what they need to do without interference.

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Helena Houzarová
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The two ESH commenters at the end clearly can't read with comprehension. OP asked employees if he could change his daughter on that table; if letting him in the ladies' was an option, the employees could have and should have suggested it. But they okayed OP's plan.

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Irma
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

At my work we just have one bathroom stall with a changing table in it. No mens or womens bathrooms. I really dont see a problem with that either and as far as i know nobody does.

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Nikki Sevven
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA. She was creepy, and could easily have snatched the baby and ran. Do NOT touch other people's children.

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Terran
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA. The woman's actions might have been well intended, but as a saying in my country goes: well intended is the opposite of well done.

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ThEboRedEsTpANdA
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I love the reply he made to one of the comments about his wife carrying around a fly swatter when she was preg

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Irma
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Agreed it was funny. Also sad. People here are saying dont touch peoples kids. Which is true. But also dont touch people you dont know in general. I dont want people touching my belly or trying to lift my shirt. Why on earth would that be normal

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Alexandra Davis
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The last comment makes me so angry. He was in no way at all in the wrong.

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Alexis Draskinis
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

1: men have kids/babies, they should have changing tables in the men's room. 2: yeah, he couldve done it somewhere else but he did ask, get their ok, & since they knew they'd know to clean the table afterwards & sanitize it so no shame from me there. As an ex server, ive seen plenty of folks just do it & then leave the mess (including diaper) for me to clean. 3rd: if she wanted to help or thought he needed it, she couldve just asked & this wouldn't be a creep story anymore. Ive had people ask me if i needed help when my kid was a baby. If i did i said "sure" & let them know how they could help. If i didnt i said "no thanks i got this" & continued with my day. Ive asked others if they needed help & if they take it great! If they dont then they do what they're doing knowing help is around if they change their mind

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Irma
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I agree with you and wish everyone was like that. But the amount of people that are insulted or the 'suit yourself' attitude when you dont want them to help

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Me Oh My
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Oh boy! NTA. That lady WAS a creep. I probably would have called her names far worse than creep, tbh.

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Lord Mysticlaw
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Just by the way, the title is pretty misleading. I expected (from the title) that the woman thought the dad needed advice on wiping because it's really important for females to wipe front to back and that's not necessarily something a male would think of and in that case I might have given her a pass.

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lenka
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He is not just a 'male'. He is the baby's father and I am sure he knows how to properly care for her. My husband was perfectly capable for looking after our babies (son AND daughter) and knew exactly how to change a diaper and clean his little girl without some nosy intrusive person insisting that he didn't know how to care for his child.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

God that one comment. "yOuR eNtItLeMeNt Is AsToUnDiNg". What entitlement? Being a dad just caring for his baby? Come on.

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John Baker
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As someone in the post's comments pointed out, if a man had done the same thing, he'd probably have been arrested. Why should a woman get a free pass? I'm sure she was only trying to help, but her help was neither asked for nor needed. NTA.

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Trillian
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Completely right to tell her to back off, but could have left out the creep. I get that he's annoyed and a bit stressed (I would have been if I had to change my poop-exploded daughter in Starbucks bc nobody provided a changing table where I could get at it) so yeah, that happens. Nothing that a grown ass woman should start crying about.

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April Stephens
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I wonder if she was crying because her feelings were hurt, because she was ashamed, or a combination.

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Sarah
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA, not by a long shot. No one has a right to touch your child! A total stranger should not be stepping in to tell a parent how to care for their kids either but, man, actually laying hands on someone else's kid? And also, why men's bathrooms don't have changing tables is beyond me. My sister has three little girls and I know her husband sometimes had a hell of a time finding a place to change them when she wasn't with them.

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Nunya Bus
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The problem ultimately is the lack of baby facilities that men can access. Its terrible that he'd even have to ask to the use the ladies room to change his child let alone have to think of that. The problem is Society is TA for making it seem weird for men to take care of their children. The double standards for when they're a little older too. This dad can take his son into the restroom with him and his wife can take the daughter AND the son with her into the restroom until a certain age, but the dad could never take his daughter into the restroom. It's so freaking stupid, pointless and complicated. So that's the ultimate problem. And if he asked to use a table why is the onus on him to request the ladies room with a changing table with an escort? The employees could have suggested that too. I don't think he's anymore or less wrong for not thinking of that idea then the employees for not suggesting it and them actually saying it was ok to use the table.

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Nunya Bus
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

to continue, if he had just straight up used a table without asking that would be gross but he was very upfront and polite about it. Lastly, don't touch other people's children. Don't assume they need help unless you can actually see a child about to roll off the counter or run into traffic then you get a free(and I hope a very welcomed) pass.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The one thing I really appreciated is the Barista saying it's okay without a problem (at least the story makes it seem like they were just okay with it)

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Lea S.
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ohmygoodness people with changing the kid on the table. He didn't take the poopy diaper and rub it into the surface. He had a changing pad for f***s sake. The manager okayed it. That's all that matters.

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buttonpusher
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This would piss me off too. Along with those who stick their oar in when a child is throwing a tantrum. "Of that was my child I'd..." "Yeah well he's not your child so f**k off!" And male toilets need baby change stations. And I am so glad my kids are way past the poopy blow-out stage. Omg that was a nightmare. It's like a grenade went off.

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Bobby
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Do. Not. Touch. Children. Saving a life? Sure. Stopping abuse? You bet. Being "helpful?" Not without asking.

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Aleksandra
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Women can be kidnappers too. Sure some people really want to help and all, but don't let strangers touch or pick up your little child and especially if you're a man and the stranger is a woman - people are more likely to believe that woman that she's the real parent than belive to a man.

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Karis Ravenhill
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA. You don't touch other people's children without their permission, END OF STORY. You don't butt in on someone else's parenting if they're managing ok. The man did the right thing since there were no changing facilities available to men with children, and I appreciate his consideration at not wanting to accidentally scare women in the female toilets because he's a very large man. Also, you don't leave your daughter sitting in her own sh*t, that's how females get UTI's and other infections, he did the right thing not waiting until he got home to change her. This guy is so considerate and will make a wonderful spouse/father. After how much I was grabbed at and molested as a child, if someone came up and tried to touch my child without my permission i'd scream and punch them, this old biddie got off lightly from the situation, a man with less manners would've decked her for touching his daughter.

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Vladimíra Matejová
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I dont get it why in some buildings there are separate toilets for men and then separate toilets for women+disabled+changing tables for babies and they are the same size. like why? changing rooms should not be part of the toilets, there should be a separate room for it so either gender could go there. and both men and women toilets should be for disabled too

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Bobert Robertson
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Where are the feminists and equal rights people with this issue of lack of change tables in men's washrooms? It drives me nuts that I've had to change my kids on countertops in bathrooms so many times. When you finally find one with a change table it feels like I've found Atlantis

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Lauren Caswell
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There is push on this. Equality means equality. You ask where the feminists are, but I really hope you know a 'feminist' can be any gender(you probably do, no offense is intended here). The reason some bathrooms now have change tables for men is because of 'feminists', and no, some of the bathrooms is not enough. Feel free to add your voice, if you aren't already doing so, to the cause. Write to your local government. Push for change 👍

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Anne Helene Meen
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA! Hell, I work temp in kindergardens, and the one rule I follow above all is you do not push yourself onto others. Especially the littlest ones! The only exceptions are emergencies and imminent physical injuries. Some kids need to observe a new caretaker before seeking them out, others use you as a climbing frame 5 sec after you enter the room. You do not touch a baby without their parents permission! This lady was way out of line, if you can't respect someone setting boundaries you have no right to be shocked when they snap. (I'm gonna steal the flyswatter trick if I ever get pregnant)

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

sometimes in can be accepted by a visito a nurse being happilypregnan responded pleasantly to my inquiry of what did she hope for prefaeing my enquiey wih "my deae what are you hoping for-told me some healh sone to be playing games wih Dadda I said God Bless a nw wee soul kiss my own hane an eeached our - visitor leaned forwar for me to pat her ttum and beamed smiling when said God Bless you little love depending upon circumstances a kind exchange

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Janice Parks
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This lady probably grew up being socialized to fuss over babies. Hers. Mine. Yours. Everyone’s. Lord only knows why but its true. I think its a trait shared by most social animals such as humans. Seeing a baby or baby clothes or, yes, even baby poop can get a woman’s hormones racing especially, in my opinion, those who are coming to the near end of their fertility. She probably just felt a need to fuss over your baby and lost her inhibitions for the moment. You didn’t need it to be mean unless you suspected her intentions were nefarious in which case your reaction fit the situation. If this ever happens again maybe you can just say thank you but I’ve got this. The lady may appreciate hearing that you don’t let strangers touch your children. By allowing her a moment to pull herself back you’ll find you don’t need to growl at her unless she escalates the situation.

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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Anyone saying ESH are also assholes. I don't care if he was changing the baby on a table in the back area. He had permission and it is much better than a filthy bathroom floor. He did what he needed to do and the family was harrased with unwanted attention and touching. She did not have permission to touch his baby. SHE IS a creep. Don't touch other peoples' kids.

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Nina
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Should have had the woman arrested for trying to touch your daughter. Could you imagine if the roles were reversed? The creepo man would've been crucified. You're a great dad and that cow deserved to cry about how much of a judgemental AH she was. Dad's get such s**t for being a good dad, it's unbelievable.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

About the use of the bathroom labeled for the opposite gender. It's just a sign. When I go in it's the women's room. When he goes in it's the men's room. Just make sure someone checks it out first to be sure no one is there - one gender at a time.

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Tamara Kroonen
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA but, he could also went straight home to change her and come back later to finish groceries, since it was a 5 minute walk from home he says.

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Emmydearest
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm guessing you've never had to attend to a baby who pooped like a thunderstorm: poop out of the diaper, on the clothes... You'd definitely want to change them as soon as possible, and surely don't want to put them in a carrier because that would mean:💁 poop in the carrier. And we're not talking about "solid"; it's a mess. A. MESS.

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Changing a baby on a table is gross, but the lady’s behaviour was grosser.

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I call BS on this guy. I'm going to go ahead and guess that the guy who has the full-time stay at home wife/slave is not as educated on how to properly clean and change his child. He probably was wiping the wrong way and doing other things that this woman noticed. Was it her business? Beyond this obvious health code violation in a public place, nope. But I'll bet that prompted it. Violate public sanitation norms and you can expect people to assume you're incompetent and in need of assistance.

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Monika Rhodes
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Dude, that lady was out of line- that was the point of this. Geez you karens look for a problem at any cost.

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Hindsight is always 20/20. Especially in this case. Both parties here are in the wrong. The lady should have asked if he needed help before she intruded in his space. The guy should have never used a public table to change a baby with a messy diaper. I don't believe the woman was a menace at all, probably seeing how he has twins and thinking he could use some help. The guy clearly was not prepared for a situation like this.

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Kt
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Please enlighten us as to how you prepare for a baby having a big, smelly, gross s**t? I would love to know!

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This smells like BS, as most of the 'Stories' are on Boredpanda.

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April Stephens
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I love reading these even if they're made up. I thought you could not back carry until around 6 months. Maybe that 3-month-old has really good neck control or it is a better baby carrier than those that I am aware of... Otherwise, this situation seems pretty plausible to me. And one way or another, it's an interesting story.

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While the whole store smacks of BS ( 6'7" + a backpack carrier+ inside is not likely) my guess is that he was wiping back to front and on a little girl is indeed wrong

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youre in a grocery store you use the WOMANS WASHROOM THATS ONLY MADE FOR ONE PERSON AT A TIME. This is 2021 and you wont find a mens room with out a change table anywhere in north america.

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Ok, someone dressing your baby without your permission is a little bit strange. But it is stranger to change a diaper and clean (seemingly a lot of) s**t on a table where someone else will sit and drink coffee, it's gross. And what backwards country do you live in where a male doesn't have a dedicated spot to change a diaper?? It's not the 50's anymore, is it?

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I got to be honest here...This poster is the asshole. Not because he didn't want the stranger to touch his kid, but because he was rude and started name calling. He is NTA for not wanting her to touch his child he ITA for being a jerk about it. "Thank you for your help, but I'd rather you not touch my child" would have been a better response.

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Emmydearest
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Would you be ok if a stranger came and started touching your coat? Or your purse? I'd say no... And isn't your baby more "precious" than your purse? So, yes, if a stranger comes and starts touching and clothing your baby you definitely are entitled to some "roughness". Could he have been more polite? Sure. But is he in the wrong? No.

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If there’s no change table and I won’t be much longer, I’ll let the baby sit in their own mess. Not that big of a deal.

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KimB
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ugh really?!? Yeah no big deal until the kid ends up with fungal diaper rash... I'm sorry but no! Leaving the baby sit in the mess isn't the answer and the OP said it was a big "blow out" and was on her clothes also...ALL public restrooms should have a changing table for babies

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YTA - you did not need to insult her. yes she was wrong for not ASKING if you needed help.... But Your reaction has now guaranteed she will never offer help again. We have gotten to be such an angry and RUDE society, that it actually is making me sick. Most of us boomers were raised to help our fellow man/ woman/ child. Now it seems most want it every man for himself. My roommate was once walking home from the store, he fell down and could not get up. he was crying for help and although many people walked past and got in their cars and drove away, not one person stopped to offer assistance or even call for a cop / or ambulance. It took me 20 min to get there to help him, and all you could see was an old man on the ground crying.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Big difference in someone asking for help vs going up to a random stranger and first telling him he's wiping his own daughter incorrectly he politely told her he knew what he was doing. She tried to take over and dress his baby and he told her to stop and she was being a creep because at that point she WAS a creep he told her flat out he didn't need her help and she continued to try and help where help was not needed. As far as your friend that's simply awful that not one person would help him but in their defense there's a lot of shady people in this world and some use ruses like faking an injury to get people in a vulnerable situation in order to rob them ( a good example is serial killer Ted Bundy pretended to have a broken arm complete with a fake cast to lure his victims into helping him)

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Demi Zwaan
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It's weird and you were right for telling her to stop and leave, but calling her a creep was unnecessary. She wasn't being creepy.

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Ben Smith
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Grabbing another persons child without the parents consent is not just creepy, it's damn near criminal. Creep is the nicest of the words I would have called her.

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