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There is a vast valley with steep slopes and a raging river winding its way through the bottom that separates the people who are genuinely nice and those who only proclaim themselves to be ‘nice.’ Most of us know from experience that guys who are actually nice act very differently than those who are ‘nice guys.’

However, this post isn’t about nice guys. No, this one is about nice girls. Or rather—‘nice girls’ who believe they’re entitled to ‘perfect’ partners while dripping with hatred for the world and showing their true colors when things don’t go their way. In fact, there’s a place where they get called out: the r/Nicegirls subreddit that proves that fake ‘niceness’ knows no gender boundaries. See for your yourselves, dear Pandas. Be sure to read on for Bored Panda's interview with one of the moderators of the subreddit, user CTFOE_is_Free.

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What A Sweetheart

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Selfishness and altruism aren't as black and white as you might think. According to research, human history has shown that some forms of selfishness can be considered to be "healthy" while some altruism can be "pathological." Healthy selfishness led to higher levels of psychological well-being and a "genuine prosocial orientation." Meanwhile, pathological altruism was associated with vulnerable narcissism and selfish motivations for helping others. If that sounds familiar, it's the scientific basis for the difference between nice and 'nice.'

Moderator CTFOE_is_Fee told Bored Panda that the reason why some women are 'nice girls' is a combination of a few factors. "Some of them are too immature to realize what they're doing. Others are that manipulative on purpose. Lastly, some do not even realize what they're doing," they explained.

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But Why? Smh Entitled Queens Lol

But Why? Smh Entitled Queens Lol

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Sowieso
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This kind of messaging is why men think they should try harder, and how you create an unsafe feeling for a lot of woman. Because a man will take away from this that no means yes. And that you have to keep trying, even though the woman made clear that she is not into you. It's a dangerous game to play!

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The Cat Isn’t What He Should Be Getting Rid Of

The Cat Isn’t What He Should Be Getting Rid Of

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Sum Guy
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The cat has been there before her and judging by her being jealous of a cat, the cat will be there after she's gone

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We were curious to find out where the line between genuine niceness and fake 'niceness' was for the moderator. Here's what they had to say: "Personally, for me, the line is drawn when you can tell that someone is being passive-aggressive; when you can sense the subdued maliciousness in their words and actions. If your gut is telling you that something is not genuine about the person then they probably are not genuine. I think we've all experienced a few relationships like that in our lives. I do not see there being a large grey area between the two. You know when someone is being kind or not."

According to CTFOE_is_free, one of the things that new members need to keep in mind if they decide to join up is to read and follow the subreddit rules. "We have a strict No doxxing policy, as we work to respect and protect the privacy of the subjects of the content as well as that of the posters."

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I Went On One Date With This Girl And She Spent The Whole Time On Her Phone Drinking Coffee I Bought Her

I Went On One Date With This Girl And She Spent The Whole Time On Her Phone Drinking Coffee I Bought Her

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A Message To All Nice Girls Who Might Have A Screw Loose

A Message To All Nice Girls Who Might Have A Screw Loose

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Saint Thomas
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Or maybe... confront him and talk about it ? Then make a decision ? I understand this is meant as a kind of joke with a twist, but it's not good advice, either way.

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According to the creators of the subreddit, the 'Nice Girls' community is like the ‘Nice Guys’ online group, but different in that they focus on women instead. Bored Panda has even written about them before. You can check out that post right over here once you’re done enjoying this list. Spoiler alert: proclaiming that you’re nice doesn’t make it so. The proof is in how you act, not the mild-mannered facade you show the world.

“For all the self-proclaimed ‘nice girls.’ For the women who complain ‘guys are only interested in [promiscuous women].’ For women who complain that men are shallow for not dating overweight women, while also demanding that their man have washboard abs. For the women who hold others to the highest possible standard, but have no standards for themselves,” the r/Nicegirls creators explain what their group is all about.

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A Nicegirl Daydream

A Nicegirl Daydream

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Now That's A Logical Leap

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Whimsy
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Laughter is not good for my tummy pain right now, but that reply was funny as heck.

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The main focus of the subreddit is to shame these ‘nice girls’ in all their glory through images, articles, videos, and everything else. “This sub is not for female incels. This place is not for crazy girls. If you swap the genders and it doesn't belong on r/niceguys, then don't post it,” they explain.

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What’s more, the moderators point out that their community is “not a women hating subreddit.” They encourage members to be polite and “refrain from making sexist comments or being a bigot.” They have a zero-tolerance policy regarding things like that, so mind your manners. Yes, there’s a certain unsurprising irony there that a group about shaming people who are supposedly ‘nice’ actually requires folks to be nice.

However, just because r/Nicegirls deems these women worthy of being shamed doesn’t mean that they’re having an all-out war with them. Members of the group can’t post any identifying information about people: this way, they’re protected from internet users who might want to criticize them or insult them. After all, just because someone’s ‘nice’ now doesn’t mean that they’re not learning to be actually, genuinely nice. I’m a big believer that people can change if they set their minds to it.

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So You Know It's Wrong, But You Did It Anyway?

So You Know It's Wrong, But You Did It Anyway?

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Foxxy (The Original)
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Oh boy, and I bet that she still doesn't get the irony after being called out on it.

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So I Broke My Leg, And She Wanted To Go On A Date....

So I Broke My Leg, And She Wanted To Go On A Date....

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"I Just Said Goodnight, But I'm Gonna Throw A Tantrum If You Say Goodnight Back"

"I Just Said Goodnight, But I'm Gonna Throw A Tantrum If You Say Goodnight Back"

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Foxxy (The Original)
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Oh yeah coz men can read our minds and know exactly how we are feeling. How about stop playing games and tell him.

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Urban Dictionary defines 'nice girls' as women who believe they're the best choice to be someone's girlfriend. They're deemed by the internet to be manipulative, have self-esteem issues, and can be passive-aggressive. They also have problems with jealousy and being self-centered. Especially if rejected.

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The "I Don't Want Anything" Classic

The "I Don't Want Anything" Classic

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Foxxy (The Original)
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ugh another one playing stupid Games. If you say you don't want something then expect to not get it.

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EQXL
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Lets pretens I am Josh and you'd say that to me. Chances are I actually know what you mean, but I still won't get you anything. Why? Cause I am not gonna support your freakishly childish behaviour.

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backatya
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Again repeat after me No means No and Yes means Yes. There's no special code or anything.

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Anna Banana
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I absolutley hate being ignored when I say I want/don't want something. I find it disrespectful when somebody keeps asking as if I don't know my own mind. Having said that, I am now gaining a new perspective on things while I read all those stupid posts and I'm starting to see where those people are coming from.

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Pau Tea
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And thats why they will use the excuse 'No means Yes' in every aspect...

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Luna Lovegood!
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

i think the question you should be asking is..."does anyone want an ungrateful girlfriend?"

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Bailey Baker
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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Useless boyfriend? This girl probably is a gold-digger and if someone doesn't know how to read her mind? Ha! Let's break up. Literally what.

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Crep 105
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So, you ask him not to get you anything, and he did exactly what you asked.... And you're mad that he did what you told him too?!

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Sarah Grape
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

say what you mean it's called communication and will solve a vast majority of problems.

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Craig Reynolds
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Another example of a #Karen teaching men that NO actually means YES!!! Coffee and sex are obviously not the same but the meaning of the words NO and YES do NOT EVER CHANGE so STOP being the idiot that you are by teaching men they do change...

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Kat
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That's how life works. If you want something, just say it.

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J
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Another one who expects her boyfriend to be a mind reader!

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Mshauri Mazuri
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Girls, please answer straight to whatever your bf asked you. They're not magicians, they're not telephatic, they're not edward cullen that can read your mind. Just say the f*ck you wanted to eat, say the place you wanted to go, and please, say the things you wanted to say. That is how communications works.

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Celtic Pirate Queen
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What is with you bitches expecting what you said you didn't want? Grow the f**k up and act like an adult.

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Chase Ryan
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I hate when people think you can just read their minds like you're Doctor Strange.

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Amanda Hunter
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I had a friend like that, insisted on no birthday gifts, then got upset when there were no birthday gifts.

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thisisanalt
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He listened, that's one thing not most people do, be appreciative.

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Justin Seagull
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3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I get that we all want a little extra LTC when we're emotional, but you have no right to be angry when people are doing exactly what you asked.

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Car addict
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

i had a gf that wanted me to get her a milkshake without whipped cream but then got mad and said "yOu KnOw I liKe WhIPpEd CrEaM"............f**k you Emma

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Nikki Sevven
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I seriously don't understand the constant attempts to manipulate. Why are you making your life harder?

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KT
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

LOL my husband ALWAYS says he wants nothing, I ALWAYS bring him something then he laughs cause i know him better than he knows himself!!

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Rene Berendsen
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is exactly why more and more men are joining MGTOW. We are so sick of this bullshit. We don't f*****g read minds. If it was the other way around and we would get mad the women would say we need to "man up" or "stop acting childish"

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Abigail Johnson
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I did that once with my mom. if that ever happens to you, and you kno what they mean, dont get them anything

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Xitlali Alvarez
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Oh yeah just don't tell him what you want. He'll DEFINITELY get you it. 🙄

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Spanish Girls Are Her #1 Enemy

Spanish Girls Are Her #1 Enemy

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We Have The FBI And Then We Have This

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What an absolute f*****g bitch. There is no sugar coating how I feel about people doing s**t like this.

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Usually, 'nice girls' are women who get others to pity her into dating her. In short, they're the female version of 'nice guys,' with all the drama and seething hatred you'd expect to see from them. Both 'nice girls' and 'nice guys' feel like they deserve to be in a relationship with anyone that they want or anyone that so much as smiles at them.

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Double Standards Are Great !

Double Standards Are Great !

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There’ll Be Blizzard In Hell Before I Stop Eating Cinnamon Toast Crunch For Breakfast

There’ll Be Blizzard In Hell Before I Stop Eating Cinnamon Toast Crunch For Breakfast

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They also believe that the world owes them what they want just because they're 'well-mannered.' The moment things go south and they don't get what they want, they rage at the world and proclaim that it's not fair that things are this way. Whereas a genuinely nice person is kind to others without expecting a reward, a self-proclaimed 'nice girl' or 'nice guy' hides the fact that they're really just after the reward. Usually, the reward they have in mind is romantic or [ahem] something more.

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I'm Sure Nick Appreciates Your Support!

I'm Sure Nick Appreciates Your Support!

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My Ex Girlfriend Wanted To Meet For A Drink And I Said No As I Was Visiting My Terminally Ill Grandmother. She Said My Grandmother Was Lucky Be Dying Because She Would Be Ashamed Of Me. Then Put This Message On Her Instagram

My Ex Girlfriend Wanted To Meet For A Drink And I Said No As I Was Visiting My Terminally Ill Grandmother. She Said My Grandmother Was Lucky Be Dying Because She Would Be Ashamed Of Me. Then Put This Message On Her Instagram

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The Gentleman’s Journal suggests that the difference between nice and ‘nice’ depends on how honest we are with ourselves about our intentions. For instance, they explain that you should be generous, but that you shouldn’t use your generosity as a bargaining chip for other things. That means that why you’re doing something is just as important as the fact that you’re doing it.

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Don't Get Me What I Ask For

Don't Get Me What I Ask For

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Come on, you cant be THAT unappreciative! You should be grateful you even have a boyfriend with that attitude

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My Ex Sent Death Treats To Me On My Birthday, This Was What Happened Afterwardss

My Ex Sent Death Treats To Me On My Birthday, This Was What Happened Afterwardss

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One thought in particular raised by the Gentleman’s Journal stuck in my mind: “Do be kind. But don’t do it just because you think you ought to.” The implication here is simple: being kind is vital. However, making the decision to be kind because you believe it’s the right thing to do is the key here.

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Nice Girls Don’t Exi-

Nice Girls Don’t Exi-

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Foxxy (The Original)
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3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That's insane, I think she needs professional help. Super stalkerish. Hopefully she was charged.

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Being nice, polite, and kind just because you feel pressured to doesn’t make you nice. It makes you ‘nice.’ After all, kindness under duress isn’t really kindness, is it? But what do you think, dear Pandas? Why do you think ‘nice girls’ and ‘nice guys’ act the way that they do? Where do you think the line between actual kindness and fake kindness lies? Can we tell which is which from a distance? Share your thoughts with everyone else in the comments below.

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Okay, Thats Not Toxic At All

Okay, Thats Not Toxic At All

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It's Only Okay If I Can Go Through Your Phone

It's Only Okay If I Can Go Through Your Phone

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Foxxy (The Original)
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If you can't trust your partner and have to go through their phone then maybe it's the wrong relationship for you or you need help with getting over your trust issues.

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Damn... I Don‘T Even Know Her

Damn... I Don‘T Even Know Her

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It’s Almost Like They’re There To Workout?

It’s Almost Like They’re There To Workout?

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Sum Guy
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wow... they are focused on working out at the gym? I have never heard of that before

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The Truth Comes Out. My Former Best Friend, Who I Ended Up Dating And Then It Killed Off Our Friendship When Things Went South

The Truth Comes Out. My Former Best Friend, Who I Ended Up Dating And Then It Killed Off Our Friendship When Things Went South

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Feel Like This Belongs Here

Feel Like This Belongs Here

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And Breaking Worth 40$ Isn't Cruel?

And Breaking Worth 40$ Isn't Cruel?

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Raine Soo
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah, keep on telling yourself that after your boyfriend breaks up with you, and you're sitting home alone fuming.

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This Is The Second Time I've Ever Talked To Her, What The Hell

This Is The Second Time I've Ever Talked To Her, What The Hell

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Nice Girl Has Trouble With Her Spelling

Nice Girl Has Trouble With Her Spelling

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