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What does it mean to be a "real" man? Well, masculinity is one of those topics everyone has an opinion on, as gender norms remain a delicate subject that tends to spark heated debates online. And even though public attitudes are becoming more accepting in many ways, stereotypical patterns of masculine behavior are still deeply rooted in our society — according to the age-old cliché of the masculine guy, men are expected to be strong, brave, and dominant.

But in reality, when people are telling everyone that a macho man doesn't cry, takes risks, makes money, fears nothing, and — heaven forbid! — never shows any signs of emotional vulnerability, it can spark some pretty warped ideas about manhood.

Thanks to one illuminating corner of Twitter called 'Hot Masculinity Takes,' we get to see a galore of absurd cases when this happens online. "Welcome to the Alpha Zone," says the account’s description, and you already know it’s gonna be a wild ride. So continue scrolling to check out the absolutely ridiculous opinions about men on the Internet, and don’t miss the chat we had about masculinity with licensed clinical psychologist Dr. Jesse Matthews right below.

Psst! After you’re done with this list, more madness awaits in Part 1 of this feature right here.

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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I wanna punch the idiot who wrote this put down. And I’m an oh-so-estrogenic woman. My crushing lack of testosterone must be making me so irrational to say something like this. Isn’t it?🙄😤😡 Who is this misogynistic weirdo, to think he can be rude to the ladies and gentlemen like that? Bet he’s an insecure neckbeard.

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It’s hard to avoid encountering the term toxic masculinity these days. But as the person behind the account, who preferred to stay anonymous, told my colleague Rokas in a previous interview, this social media project is not purely about that. The philosophy of the page is to post the takes and let people make their own conclusions. "I do draw a lot from the manosphere but a lot of the takes are from women speaking about men, and I include left-wing hot takes too," the creator added.

A brief scroll through the list proves that harmful stereotypes about what it means to be a man are abundant in today’s society. But what exactly urges people to share their absurd statements without any second thought? And how can these ideas affect men seeking out their masculine identity?

To gain more insight on the topic from an expert, we reached out to Dr. Jesse Matthews, Psy.D., a licensed clinical psychologist based in Chester Springs, PA. According to him, ideas about masculinity have become quite polarized in our society.

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"As masculinity has moved away from the 'manly man' or 'tough guy' definitions, many people have not only clung to these stereotypes, but they have made them more extreme," Dr. Matthews told Bored Panda. This usually stems from people rejecting the changing views, and "social media in particular creates echo chambers for this, with various influencers carrying the flags for those who identify with their views."

While we all bear different perspectives on the world around us, masculinity especially can be a very deep rabbit hole with a variety of different viewpoints. But Dr. Matthews raised an important question: why do these ideas matter so much to people?

"Obviously, it’s part of life for any guy or anyone who identifies with masculinity, but the obsession with being a 'real man' is more based in insecurity. The person essentially needs to ensure that they present a masculine enough identity to avoid judgment or being called out as not masculine by other guys," the psychologist explained.

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Men who are insecure about their manliness exhibit behavior that is often exaggerated and even caricature-like. But Dr. Matthews says there’s also irony at play here. "Many of these individuals would tell you that being a real man means just doing your thing and not caring about what anyone thinks about it. However, one can’t simultaneously obsess over portraying an ultramasculine image, yet claim to be unconcerned about judgment. It just doesn’t compute."

Hypermasculinity — or toxic masculinity as it’s usually called — is also based on the false belief that masculinity needs to be saved, Dr. Matthews argued. "In the same way that some people seem to be afraid that racism or homophobia might one day die out. So they embrace stereotypes, or how they think things 'should' be or were in 'the good old days.'"

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wow, so a man drinking a fruity drink sounds like a great way to filter out super shallow people. Drink up men, the fruity drinks are the best.

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But putting men (half of the world’s population!) in a box can seriously harm their well-being. "It’s limiting at best, and at worst it leads people to play into these stereotypes." For example, hypermasculinity often makes people act in ways "that are sexist or homophobic, or at least not challenging others on this kind of behavior."

"It also has the power to create toxic environments, uncomfortable for women or men viewed as not masculine, and of course to lead to situations involving sexual assault," Dr. Matthews continued. "As well, if these men carry on these thoughts and behaviors through adulthood, they may pass them down to their children or other young people they come into contact with, like kids they are teaching, coaching, and so on."

According to the American Psychological Association (APA), instilling elements of traditional masculinity into men and boys can be psychologically harmful, as it has been shown to limit their development, constrain their behavior, and result in gender role conflict. What’s more, it can negatively influence their mental and physical health.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This screams red flag all over. Anyone under that height is usually underage (with the exception of naturally petite women).

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And men wonder why we women have a tendency to come off as cold, closed-off, and wary with men we dont know. Obviously, even the men we DO think we know can be a danger to us.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Statistically, the men that women do know are the ones most likely to harm them. Women are told to be wary of strangers and yes, we should be, but ultimately it's our partners that rape, maim and kill us more than men we don't know...

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

“Men are afraid of women laughing at them, Women are afraid of men killing them” - Margaret Atwood.

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Helena
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Holy carp. This is why women never feel safe. All those professing 'not all men', this right here is why we have to treat every single man as if he's going to snap. You don't like being feared? Maybe don't accept this bs out of your fellow men.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

For real? He not only justifies M U R D E R, but then doubles down with a threat that women should bow down and cater to men or else?!? I hope that a*****e never gets laid again, let's clean up this gene pool

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I agree, this army sergeant and his girlfriend were not equals. If you need a gun to fight off someone's laugh you are really f*****g weak.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Shame they blanked the guy's username. He should be named and shamed for that attitude.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Seriously, censorship makes no damn sense when they posted this PUBLICLY.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So, I read this story. She was trying to distance herself for MONTHS from this ahole but he tried to kill himself or said he would. So, she stayed in his life. They were not living together or really dating at that point, so when he came over for Valentine's Day 2020, he professed his love and she laughed. That's when he strangled her and dumped her body in the woods. The whole relationship was filled with possessiveness, manipulation and constant threats. I'm not naming the bastard that took her life, but HER name is Anitra LaShay Gunn. She's was a college student at Fort Valley State University in Georgia. She did not deserve this. It is not up to anyone else to keep a man's ego from being bruised. I hope he rots

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Iwish more people would read about this before making stupid comments, but sadly they probably won't believe her story anyway and will only want to listen to his side.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"Men are afraid women will laugh at them, women are afraid men will kill them" - Margaret Atwood

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Men are afraid women will laugh at them. Women are afraid that men will kill them.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The OP commenter's takeaway from that tragic sitution is really frightening because his words are helping to perpetuate these news stories.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There are SO Many things wrong here! And none of it is remotely funny. Disgusting actually.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And this is why we look over our shoulders everywhere forever.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"If you don't respect me I'll beat you" how quick would this guy turn into a b***h if he ran into someone who could easily beat his a*s?

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I genuinely don’t get what his point is. We should respect a man’s potential for insane, homicidal rage at any perceived slight?

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is just sick. Wtf. This guy I think needs to go to the crazy house or jail I'm not really shore which. But definitely a huge red flag I hope he don't have a girlfriend and I hope never gets a hold of any weapons. Right here government put a red flag on this dude like right here is a threat if I ever seen one🚩🚩🚩🚩🆘🆘 🙄😳🤯

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I read something somewhere about a study being done where men and women were asked what they worried most about being in a relationship- men said rejection, women said m, their partners killing/abusing them........and here we have "Exhibit A" sums it up in a nutshell really, doesn't it!?

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If anyone's wondering why there seem to be a lot more lesbians around these days, I present Exhibit A.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Oh my God, there's nothing funny about this one. That is just disturbing.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Let this be a lesson; if a female laughs a real man will walk away. An infant will throw a tantrum. Bigger lesson; any man that thinks having a p **is is the sole qualification for a right to life and being human needs to stop obsessing over d **ks so much.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So every man who kills a female family member is justified because he was having a bad day. Makes perfect sense.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"Men are afraid that women will laugh at them. Women are afraid that men will kill them." - Margaret Atwood

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Well you know what they say, men’s biggest fear with the women is to be laughed at, while women fear being killed by men.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Reading this, I am very sure, I can beat you in your rage. Preferably with a mace, a spiky one

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He wasn't looking for a shoulder to cry on if he professed his love. We don't know why she laughed, but he had no right to disrespect her, much less attack and murder her! He obviously wasn't in love as he did that. I know plenty of women that could have kicked his butt and dragged it to the MPs, but a surprise ambush like he did is a huge advantage in a fight, especially when you've been trained for combat and your victim probably isn't.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We don't need rage. WE ARE DIABOLICAL, watch your back buddy!

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think all this men vs women arguing misses the point. I believe people have blindspots when it comes to other people they either like or love and they overlook certain aspects of their personalities. Anyone, man or woman, can do terrible things you when you underestimate them.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Is this even for real? Are these real ppl?? Someone plz tell me this whole feed is some kind of twisted satire, its making me feel sick.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

wow...tell me your an abusive predator without telling me you're an abusive predator

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

...she could have laughed because she was happy like a lot of people if something good happens to them or if they get a pleasant surprise instead of crying happy tears, smiling, etc, they start laughing because they are happy it doesnt mean like haha im laughing because youre weird you could laugh in so many different ways!

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Not sure that's going to work as a legal defence.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Oh my f*****g God. I hate this person. This is frightening and more frightening he tells the world proudly. Sickening.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We have to be weak awared and adaptive to any mens wish just to keep them secure and in line-but still we are the weak sex I 'll never get that

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Lol you never seen a woman below the hight of 5ft 2 go off their head, and it shows

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As a lady if you don't like one man then you prolly don't like all men. But if you like one man, as a lady - it means you like him, and him alone. So if you feel you're offended by one man, be celibate. If you don't hear me right, wait till you got 7 ex-boyfriends and you still can't make it work with the 8th

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And what exactly is wrong with having 7 or 8 boyfriends? Or more for that matter. And no I don't like all men, I like some men. And with some of those men I like I want to have sex and with some that I like I don't want to have sex.

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All the women on here saying things like "and men wonder why we are so wary of them." Like, I get it. But, you're also missing the point that this man told his GILRFRIEND that he loved her and she f*****g LAUGHED at him. Imagine bring a man and being told your whole life not to show emotion, to hold them deep down and "man up." Then, finally finding someone you think you can be yourself around and you open up just the SLIGHTESTS amount because you feel safe with them. And then she laughs jn your face. I'm not saying murdering people is ever justified or okay and their was clearly years of emotional abuse piled on this man. But women can't demoralize men that show any emotion then complain that all men show signs of toxic masculinity.

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I once had a gf that I was planning on asking to marry me. I lost my job and called her up and told her how I was feeling like a failure and scared that it meant I wouldn't be able to get us our own apartment or how I wouldn't be able to support her as the man. The very next day she broke up with me and was sleeping with someone else with 48hrs. I have the most amazing wife in the world now who doesn't care if I show emotions but I still have never cried in front of another women since that day. This is why men punch dry wall and scream. All those emotions start boiling up inside of us, but instead of it coming out in tears we have to yell or punch something bc that's "how men deal with problems" and it's super sad! But, I won't cry about it because OnLy GIrLs cRy

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For men who try to seek out their identity and find a healthy relationship with their inner guy, these societal pressures and expectations can be especially burdensome. "It can be hard for people to stand out or to be seen as going against those around them. For example, a male raised in a family or in a community with traditional masculine stereotypes may find it hard to explore or adopt a less stereotyped identity," Dr. Matthews said, adding the person is likely to be criticized, punished, or excluded for it.

Unfortunately, most people who are raised in stereotyped environments tend to internalize those behavior patterns. Psychologist Matthews explained this happens because they don’t know anything else and it feels right to them, or they feel pressure to fit in.

"This can mean demonstrating extreme or toxic masculinity, as not only could one fit in that way, but he could be praised or more highly valued in the group for it." And, alarmingly, "in places like prisons where this applies, it could actually help you to survive."

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Only the most insecure men use words like alpha and beta males. Do they not realize how it makes them sound?

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Extreme views like the painfully ridiculous ones featured on 'Hot Masculinity Takes' are rarely a positive thing. But as the modern world now teaches us, the subject matter is much less black-and-white.

"Masculinity is not simply the opposite of femininity, just as it is not synonymous with heterosexuality," Dr. Matthews noted. "Many people today see being masculine as being calm and controlled vs angry and reactive, being a good problem solver rather than one who relies on brute force to solve everything, or standing up for other people or what’s right vs trying to control or overpower others."

What people see as healthy masculinity may differ, but generally, we can all foster it by not judging other people. "This means not being worried about what other men are doing and giving people the space to be themselves," Dr. Matthews added. "We can all do what we want to do and believe what we want to believe. Masculinity isn’t going anywhere, so people don’t need to try to be the protectors of it or to act in stereotyped ways to let people know they exist."

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Mmm, yes, let's never stop living with perpetual brutality, chaos, and death.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

High blood pressure, obesity, high blood sugar, malnutrition, but I can't think of any real reasons.

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Many men in Dr. Matthews’s practice have never gone to therapy before, and some wouldn't even be expected to be found in a psychologist’s office at first glance. But they are sure glad they did. "This idea of what it really means to be a man and the positive and negative ways in which they have lived this is a frequent topic of conversation."

"I would encourage anyone concerned with issues of identity, including ideas about masculinity, to start reflecting on it in some kind of organized way. Don’t just watch videos by your favorite IG or Tik Tok influencers, but start journaling, reading books, or going and seeing a therapist. It really can change your life," Dr. Matthews concluded.

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Picturing this guy putting together flat-pack furniture without instructions ('cause those are for girls) and when his shelf turns into a table, he just throws it through the wall. Because bro

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

BREAKING NEWS: WORK COLLEAGUES OFTEN ENGAGE AS FRIENDS WITH EACH OTHER. MORE ON THIS AT 11.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Say you're insecure about your masculinity without saying you're insecure about your masculinity

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

James Butler is a septic tank guy on TikTok and YouTube who has a 'manly' job, but also decent general advice about being a boss of a company. It's not all dancing and "challenges" on TikTok.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Anyone else think that the whole alpha, beta, sigma whatever is just dude bro astrology?

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