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What does it mean to be a "real" man? Well, masculinity is one of those topics everyone has an opinion on, as gender norms remain a delicate subject that tends to spark heated debates online. And even though public attitudes are becoming more accepting in many ways, stereotypical patterns of masculine behavior are still deeply rooted in our society — according to the age-old cliché of the masculine guy, men are expected to be strong, brave, and dominant.

But in reality, when people are telling everyone that a macho man doesn't cry, takes risks, makes money, fears nothing, and — heaven forbid! — never shows any signs of emotional vulnerability, it can spark some pretty warped ideas about manhood.

Thanks to one illuminating corner of Twitter called 'Hot Masculinity Takes,' we get to see a galore of absurd cases when this happens online. "Welcome to the Alpha Zone," says the account’s description, and you already know it’s gonna be a wild ride. So continue scrolling to check out the absolutely ridiculous opinions about men on the Internet, and don’t miss the chat we had about masculinity with licensed clinical psychologist Dr. Jesse Matthews right below.

Psst! After you’re done with this list, more madness awaits in Part 1 of this feature right here.

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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I wanna punch the idiot who wrote this put down. And I’m an oh-so-estrogenic woman. My crushing lack of testosterone must be making me so irrational to say something like this. Isn’t it?🙄😤😡 Who is this misogynistic weirdo, to think he can be rude to the ladies and gentlemen like that? Bet he’s an insecure neckbeard.

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It’s hard to avoid encountering the term toxic masculinity these days. But as the person behind the account, who preferred to stay anonymous, told my colleague Rokas in a previous interview, this social media project is not purely about that. The philosophy of the page is to post the takes and let people make their own conclusions. "I do draw a lot from the manosphere but a lot of the takes are from women speaking about men, and I include left-wing hot takes too," the creator added.

A brief scroll through the list proves that harmful stereotypes about what it means to be a man are abundant in today’s society. But what exactly urges people to share their absurd statements without any second thought? And how can these ideas affect men seeking out their masculine identity?

To gain more insight on the topic from an expert, we reached out to Dr. Jesse Matthews, Psy.D., a licensed clinical psychologist based in Chester Springs, PA. According to him, ideas about masculinity have become quite polarized in our society.

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"As masculinity has moved away from the 'manly man' or 'tough guy' definitions, many people have not only clung to these stereotypes, but they have made them more extreme," Dr. Matthews told Bored Panda. This usually stems from people rejecting the changing views, and "social media in particular creates echo chambers for this, with various influencers carrying the flags for those who identify with their views."

While we all bear different perspectives on the world around us, masculinity especially can be a very deep rabbit hole with a variety of different viewpoints. But Dr. Matthews raised an important question: why do these ideas matter so much to people?

"Obviously, it’s part of life for any guy or anyone who identifies with masculinity, but the obsession with being a 'real man' is more based in insecurity. The person essentially needs to ensure that they present a masculine enough identity to avoid judgment or being called out as not masculine by other guys," the psychologist explained.

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Men who are insecure about their manliness exhibit behavior that is often exaggerated and even caricature-like. But Dr. Matthews says there’s also irony at play here. "Many of these individuals would tell you that being a real man means just doing your thing and not caring about what anyone thinks about it. However, one can’t simultaneously obsess over portraying an ultramasculine image, yet claim to be unconcerned about judgment. It just doesn’t compute."

Hypermasculinity — or toxic masculinity as it’s usually called — is also based on the false belief that masculinity needs to be saved, Dr. Matthews argued. "In the same way that some people seem to be afraid that racism or homophobia might one day die out. So they embrace stereotypes, or how they think things 'should' be or were in 'the good old days.'"

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wow, so a man drinking a fruity drink sounds like a great way to filter out super shallow people. Drink up men, the fruity drinks are the best.

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But putting men (half of the world’s population!) in a box can seriously harm their well-being. "It’s limiting at best, and at worst it leads people to play into these stereotypes." For example, hypermasculinity often makes people act in ways "that are sexist or homophobic, or at least not challenging others on this kind of behavior."

"It also has the power to create toxic environments, uncomfortable for women or men viewed as not masculine, and of course to lead to situations involving sexual assault," Dr. Matthews continued. "As well, if these men carry on these thoughts and behaviors through adulthood, they may pass them down to their children or other young people they come into contact with, like kids they are teaching, coaching, and so on."

According to the American Psychological Association (APA), instilling elements of traditional masculinity into men and boys can be psychologically harmful, as it has been shown to limit their development, constrain their behavior, and result in gender role conflict. What’s more, it can negatively influence their mental and physical health.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This screams red flag all over. Anyone under that height is usually underage (with the exception of naturally petite women).

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And men wonder why we women have a tendency to come off as cold, closed-off, and wary with men we dont know. Obviously, even the men we DO think we know can be a danger to us.

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For men who try to seek out their identity and find a healthy relationship with their inner guy, these societal pressures and expectations can be especially burdensome. "It can be hard for people to stand out or to be seen as going against those around them. For example, a male raised in a family or in a community with traditional masculine stereotypes may find it hard to explore or adopt a less stereotyped identity," Dr. Matthews said, adding the person is likely to be criticized, punished, or excluded for it.

Unfortunately, most people who are raised in stereotyped environments tend to internalize those behavior patterns. Psychologist Matthews explained this happens because they don’t know anything else and it feels right to them, or they feel pressure to fit in.

"This can mean demonstrating extreme or toxic masculinity, as not only could one fit in that way, but he could be praised or more highly valued in the group for it." And, alarmingly, "in places like prisons where this applies, it could actually help you to survive."

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Jeff Gabrisl
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Was I less of a man because I invited all of my friends to come by for my birthday pizza party? I built the brick oven, I made so much dough, I bought all the ingredients, I just wanted to show off what I built!

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He's having birthday dinner because people love him, want to celebrate knowing him and they want him to be happy.

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Gustav Gallifrey
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Umm...because my friends are civilised, and maybe some of them (male and female) would rather not be slamming down whisky with beer chasers and scoffing over-chillied snacks in a dingy 'sports bar'?

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Spending time with people is now prohibited. Abide by the rules. Be a man.

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Michael Largey
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Because when I had a birthday dinner as a women, all my family just stared in shock at my dress and make up.

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Kathryn Baylis
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Maybe because it’s his birthday? Any problem with him also getting birthday gifts?

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JRM 3
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why? Because we need to eat. And once per year it gal falls on our birthday. I thought that was common sense.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Because its my birthday and I like it when people I care about treat me out with my favorite foods. Nothing unmanly about it. That big juicy steak, medium rare, and all the fixings. Perfect Birthday Dinner

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Because his friends and family want to celebrate his birthday?

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Edits OP's post to: "Thank you for the invitation, but I kindly decline."

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Margaret Hooper
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Because my husband gets the biggest, best-quality steak the local butcher has with all the trimmings, followed by his favourite cake. He loves the fact I appreciate him enough to care. Does your wife do the same?

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So is it the combo that makes it gay, or should you never have dinners and never have birthdays? Is it straight to have dinner the other 364 days? I'm so confused by the rules!

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Because I'm not going to fast on my birthday, and if my friends and family want to celebrate, I have no reason to argue with them

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes men, starve on your birthday to celebrate your strength... everyone else- there´s cake!

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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Because I can cook and like to invite my friends. What kinda question is that? F**k off you're not getting any french onion soup for this kind of shitty behaviour.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I dont like celebrating my birthday. according to the people on all these posts this is my one thing thats not gay about me. there's still hope I may still get to be a misogynist. I'd keep my fingers crossed but that's gay

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's gay to be glad you were born /s wouldn't anyone be glad about any excuse to eat something nice?

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Because it's his birthday, and 1: He wanted dinner. 2: Dinner was his gift. 3: Their date is the gift.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Because that's the only time I can justify eating a one pound cheese burger. And I want my friends to be there while I do it

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Having and taking a chance to celebrate a new year of life with one’s closest friends is weakness? Only someone emotionally immature could possess that kind of faulty and mean logic, I believe, since she feels that degrading others makes her look confident and powerful.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Then I don't have to cook (or clean-up!). That said I might trade dinner for staying the same age:)

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm sorry, what did I just read?? So if you are a man, you can't celebrate your birthday with friends/family/yourself?? this is ruining my day but i will keep reading

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You wanna eat on your birthday too?! I just got you a present and now you are asking for food?!? Outrageous.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You can have a fabulous birthday brunch instead, with fruity drinks

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Because I like friends, good food and presents. Why, do you have a better reason?

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I didn't realise that your sex determined how you celebrate your birthday!!!

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Because he battled himself out of a dark threatening womb/ cave and competitive jungle umarmed but a battlecall like tarzan? How isn't that manly ?

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Right. Because real men are not born, they manifest themselves into existence after pupating in a testosterone-controlled environment supervised by Matt Walsh and Ben Shapiro. Don't you know that male neonates who travel through a birth canal instantly become gay?

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Because my dad is an amazing human being and he deserves to be celebrated.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Dear men: Happy birthday. Have a great day. Get yourself a nice dinner. Enjoy gifts and family. You're awesome. Love - everyone who matters

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

is she saying men aren't alllowed to get older? is this her way of telling us she likes to date younger men?

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I avoid telling people it's my birthday because I don't want them thinking I'm seeking attention the way a bratty child would

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Because he is one year older and glad to still be alive and so are his family and friends maybe? Ya think? 🙄

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Everyone needs to have a birthday party. Everyone needs to be appreciated.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In my house, if it's your birthday you get whatever you want for dinner. Everyone should be celebrated on their birthday

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Only the most insecure men use words like alpha and beta males. Do they not realize how it makes them sound?

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Extreme views like the painfully ridiculous ones featured on 'Hot Masculinity Takes' are rarely a positive thing. But as the modern world now teaches us, the subject matter is much less black-and-white.

"Masculinity is not simply the opposite of femininity, just as it is not synonymous with heterosexuality," Dr. Matthews noted. "Many people today see being masculine as being calm and controlled vs angry and reactive, being a good problem solver rather than one who relies on brute force to solve everything, or standing up for other people or what’s right vs trying to control or overpower others."

What people see as healthy masculinity may differ, but generally, we can all foster it by not judging other people. "This means not being worried about what other men are doing and giving people the space to be themselves," Dr. Matthews added. "We can all do what we want to do and believe what we want to believe. Masculinity isn’t going anywhere, so people don’t need to try to be the protectors of it or to act in stereotyped ways to let people know they exist."

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Mmm, yes, let's never stop living with perpetual brutality, chaos, and death.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

High blood pressure, obesity, high blood sugar, malnutrition, but I can't think of any real reasons.

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Many men in Dr. Matthews’s practice have never gone to therapy before, and some wouldn't even be expected to be found in a psychologist’s office at first glance. But they are sure glad they did. "This idea of what it really means to be a man and the positive and negative ways in which they have lived this is a frequent topic of conversation."

"I would encourage anyone concerned with issues of identity, including ideas about masculinity, to start reflecting on it in some kind of organized way. Don’t just watch videos by your favorite IG or Tik Tok influencers, but start journaling, reading books, or going and seeing a therapist. It really can change your life," Dr. Matthews concluded.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Picturing this guy putting together flat-pack furniture without instructions ('cause those are for girls) and when his shelf turns into a table, he just throws it through the wall. Because bro

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

BREAKING NEWS: WORK COLLEAGUES OFTEN ENGAGE AS FRIENDS WITH EACH OTHER. MORE ON THIS AT 11.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Say you're insecure about your masculinity without saying you're insecure about your masculinity

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

James Butler is a septic tank guy on TikTok and YouTube who has a 'manly' job, but also decent general advice about being a boss of a company. It's not all dancing and "challenges" on TikTok.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Anyone else think that the whole alpha, beta, sigma whatever is just dude bro astrology?

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