Couple Baits Thieves With Unsecured Bikes And Then Beats Them With Bats, But Not Everyone Thinks It’s Okay
A couple in California was left without solutions when police neglected an epidemic of theft in their neighborhood. The plan they improvised to get revenge on the thieves, though, has drawn greater legal consequences and criticism from people who think that they went too far.
Video recordings show that the couple had a camera trained on an unsecured bike outside their home. When the camera registered motion and it appeared that someone was trying to take the bike, the couple emerged with baseball bats and chased them into the street, sometimes seriously beating them. Police reports say this happened at least four times and none of the would-be thieves’ injuries were life-threatening, but a neighbor told local news that there were weeks when they heard the assaults happening almost every night.
A couple in Visalia, California posted these videos on Youtube and Facebook
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Police say that the case is complicated by the fact that few victims are likely to come forward, as describing the circumstances of the assault would require confessing that they, themselves, were attempting a crime. This is what has commenters split on whether the couple should have taken matters into their own hands.
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A California legal defense agency states that it is possible in California to make a citizen’s arrest in response to a misdemeanor like petty theft, but the process is not as easy as it sounds, and not doing it by the rules can invoke criminal liability. Making a citizen’s arrest legally, according to the agency, requires contacting police immediately and restraining the suspect without the use of excessive force until they arrive and can make an arrest, apparently not the couple’s intention.
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A local news segment shows clips from the couple’s videos
The pair was arrested for assault with a deadly weapon, and conspiracy
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Some people think their use of violence was not justified
Some take the view that the thieves simply faced the consequences for deciding to steal. A baseball bat is a potentially deadly weapon, however. The case would be very different if they had simply hit someone wrong, and petty theft is not punishable by execution. Another neighbor told local news that while the community was initially supportive of the couple’s neighborhood watch, people on their street gradually started to feel unsettled by their motives and the blood left on the sidewalks after the attacks.
Others think the thieves had it coming
I use to live that area. My house was robbed in the middle of the day, they took my computers and a gun. It took over 12 hrs before the police came to file a report.
I'd like to point out that it is the fault of politicians - via voters - that created that situation. Calizuela's pro-criminal stance and continual gutting of police resources and capability have led to this and its going to get worse.
Load More Replies...UNDER THE LAW The couple has the right to make a citizen's arrest and detain the thieves. UNDER THE LAW Assaulting them and not calling the police is a CRIME. If you don't like the LAW call your state legislators and try to get the LAW changed. Otherwise, you are committing a crime (not my opinion - just the facts).
Call State legislators. Yeah that'll help! smh. We all know that's a waste of time.
Load More Replies...On the one hand, you have theft of property worth say $150. On the other hand, grievious bodily harm inflicted as a first step --- not as an escalation from words to a scuffle to a full-blown fight. To the law, and to any sober thinking human it's quite clear where the balance lies.
Load More Replies...I am not defending the thieves, but I do believe that the couple's actions were a bit over the line. The thieves shouldn't be stealing, but the couple shouldn't be beating someone that severely over something like a bike. Now they will have to do jail time over a 150-300 dollar item. If they ever catch the thieves they should do jail time as well. In a civilized society, you don't take the law into your own hands. That's how lynchings occurred.
I still think beating the thief so much is not the right thing to do. Maybe restrain them and call the cops, but to just beat up like that is barbaric. Besides that, after reading some responses featured within the article, it makes me think of cases when "theft" is being presumed rather than witnessed. And, speaking in general, misunderstandings can happen as well. What if the supposed thief were not really a thief? For example when some stupid racist makes assumptions, or simply when someone's package came to the wrong address and the addressee noticed that and wants to take what has been misdelivered. No, unless you were assaulted, or something, there must be better ways of dealing with a thief.
I'd love to know how going onto someone's property and stealing their stuff is a 'misunderstanding'. The desire not to be robbed does not make you a racist, Daria.
Load More Replies...That's the price you pay when you steal someone's property...you never know how unbalanced someone can be, however that being said these people baiting thieves so they can beat them is pretty sick.
Why aren't the police doing their jobs? I'm not criticizing the police, I'm asking a question. Is it lack of resources and personnel? We can afford to spend trillions on bombs and prisons but we can't afford proper police protection?
Local police forces are mostly funded by local taxes. Some areas have very low tax revenue.
Load More Replies...They look weird as s**t, like the type of people you’d expect to do this lol
There is a big difference between justice and assault, if you wanted to work with the local police to set up a sting operation that would have been a good thing, but taking the law into your own hands when you weren't in danger of bodily harm is another. Common sense was not included in this plan to fix a problem.
This happened FOUR TIMES? And they decided to film and publicize their exploits? Sounds like they were enjoying both the violence and being famous for it. If you spot someone trying to steal from you and overreact in this way I could understand it. But baiting a trap so you can provide justification for future violence ISN'T reasonable, especially when you do it FOUR TIMES, film it and then distribute the video. In THIS case it's the 'victims' who are at fault. If you are laying a trap repeatedly with the intention of doing violence, not merely retrieving your goods, then YOU are the violent criminal..
I am ambivalent about calling it "baiting a trap." On the one hand, clearly they left the bike out intentionally, hoping someone would come steal it so they could beat the c**p out of them. Bait and trap. On the other hand, the "bait" is their bike. The "trap" is their lawn. A person should be able to leave their bike on the lawn as much as they want, and no one has any right to try to take it. It's only a "lure" to theives.
Load More Replies...If this happened in Texas or Florida instead, the thief would have been shot dead and the couple would have been hailed as heroes for committing man slaughter. Gotta love those "Stand Your Ground" laws. Don't get me wrong. California gun laws saved my life two years ago. And I can't thank that responsible gun shop owner who chose to run a background check and call the cops instead of selling a gun to the man who was going to murder me. They chose to NOT use deadly force. But, it wasn't exactly self defense. I would have taken a different approach. Maybe more along the lines of booby trapping the bike. A simple piece of black nylon cord would have sent Dipshit McTweaker over the handle bars.
There's a funny series of "pranks" on Youtube, in which folks either tether the bike to a post with a hidden cable such that it'll come to a very abrupt stop down a hill, or sabotage the bike's frame such that it'll fall apart after being ridden a short distance, giving the would-be thieves exactly what's coming to them.
Load More Replies...Too bad. People get fed up with robberies. I have no sympathy for the thieves.
All of you who say- they are in the right. You're missing the point. The bike wasn't there left just like that- they set it up only to beat anyone who takes it with bats. That's premeditated and they deserve to get done for it!!! As does a thief.
If one could count on the police to respond and actually handle the theft in a timely manner, then I'd consider the couple to be in the wrong. However, if they are unwilling or unable to assist a citizen in being secure in their property, the citizen should be permitted to handle the situation. There should be no expectation of safety when someone is committing a property crime against someone else. Maybe they'd think twice if they were risking a beat-down or worse. As it stands, thieves steal with impunity in most of the USA, with small-value property crimes not being something police are willing to handle.
I feel a sense of justice reading this... followed promptly by disappointment. A video recording of vigilante action doesn't seem smart.
I don't blame them. The bikes were on their property. This is what is wrong with the State of California and the country. Criminals have more rights than non criminals. he thieves have s****y parents. No moral compass and the typical attitude of they are entitled to what ever they want however they can get it.
Holy s**t so many r******d dumb f***s. Going by so many comments here if people aren't pro thievery then they are dumb AF and full of s**t. Like images of comments say you can't bait on your own f*****g property. Also logically and morally they have every right no exceptions in this case.
When the police won't prevent, deter, or punish crime, people will do it themselves. I am not a fan of beating people up, but people who are not thieves have nothing to fear from these people. Also, what we are calling "leaving bike out as bait" in this situation would be considered "leaving your bike in a perfectly normal and safe place" in most of the country.
I think sometimes people do need to take the law into their own hands (within reason ofc because there are SOME criminals that are actually dangerous not just stupid kids or adults stealing), but them using bats seems excessive IMO. Because stealing is wrong and insulting to terrify someone like that, as though nothing is sacred, but if they outnumbered the guy then using bats especially ones that appear metal could quite easily break bones and though hes wrong beating him with their fists could have just as easily gotten the point across.
I'm just thankful none of the victims were "people of colour" the headlines would read "wicked wicked white couple callously assault black man who allegedly stole something or other, however, a close family relative advised "he dinndu nuffin"
Better to attach of couple of strands of 100# test fishing line about 20-30m long to the bike frame and to a secure part of the building. That way the thieves' only injury comes when they try to pedal away and get a sudden lesson in the difference between momentum and inertia.
Serves them thieves right. If they don't want to get beaten up - they just... here's a shocker... shouldn't steal!
I hope the couple get's off. This level of crime is way below the interest of local PD. As a citizen you really have no recourse here. If this was Texas they would have have been blown away. I feel the worst for those that get their work tools stolen. Happens all the time around here.
Here’s the go fund me to help the couple with legal fees. They did nothing wrong. https://www.gofundme.com/f/please-help-corey-amp-savannah?utm_source=customer&utm_medium=copy_link-tip&utm_campaign=p_cp+share-sheet
The government sets sting operations all the time for drugs, prostitution, etc. I don't see how these thieves are suddenly victims. You break the law, and there will be consequences in one form or another...
If I was on the jury, I'd let them walk in a heartbeat. You deserve a beating if you want to be a thieving scumbag. I applaud them and don't give af that the thieves got injured. Don't be a thief and you won't get a beating. Seems like a very fair trade-off. Cops are more worried about the criminals and don't care if you were robbed and they certainly won't look for your stuff. Maybe if criminals knew someone was finally going to do something about it, they'd think twice.
Hurray for Florida and Castle Laws- Here when can outright shoot them if you feel threatened or beat the snot out of them (with non-lethal force) if they threaten your property. :) https://www.gunlaws.com/FloridaCastleDoctrine.htm https://www.uslawshield.com/force-defend-property-florida/
Dont forget this guy DECIDED on his own will to be a robber. Sooner or later criminals are goin to face the consequences of their choices. Now a question for an U.S citizen: if the victims used a gun that be ok cause its part of the constitution?
It’s unfortunate they feel they have no other recourse but vigilantism. If those with the means would quit shirking their duty and start contributing (e.g. quitting all their complaining and paying their fair share of federal, state, and local taxes), there would be ample funding for adequate police training and staffing, amongst other public services and infrastructure. Then there would be enough officers to respond to chronic problems like this. I mean, where else do wealthy people think the money for all that comes from?
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Stealing is wrong, violence is wrong. Two wrongs do not make a right.
As someone who has had several bikes stolen, it is perfectly acceptable to beat any thief for any theft infraction. These sting operations prevented someone innocent having their bike stolen. So there!
In the 1990s, 20 years before Denver went BOOM!, a warehouse owner set up a booby trap for those who might break in through the back door. His shotgun trap killed two teens and injured another homeless person. He tried using Colorado's "Stand Your Ground" law, but that was struck down. He was convicted of two counts of second-degree murder and one count of assault with a deadly weapon.
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Someone could have been killed. Killing to save your life is one thing, killing over a bike is another. It's stupid and irresponsible. I would hate to kill anyone even if I had to to save a life but to kill over this, unthinkable.
Vigilantism is not the answer, society would fall into total and complete chaos. Hold them for police, they will come for a suspect being held, they do not run out too quickly after your house has been robbed, when there is no longer a threat to the people or property, to compare the two situations is ridiculous, small minded and under educated.
Finding blood on the sidewalk is a bit disturbing knowing how it got there.... Scare the c**p out of the thief but don't harm them to the point of a hospital visit jesus. I get why they are so angry and want to hurt the thieves, you just get to a point where you are constantly losing things you've worked so hard for just so some loser junkie can come along and take it. I'd be tempted to do the same thing tbh if i was getting robbed all the time.
Vigilante justice This leads to taking the law into your own hands, and lynchings. These are two low grade thugs trying to feel important.
It's simple. If it's not yours, don't touch it. Reminds me of a legend of Vlad the Impaler. It is said that Vlad the Impaler was so confident in the justice of his rule, that he placed a cup made of gold at the fountain in the middle of Targoviste citadel, so that all the thirsty people could use the cup to drink but not to steal it. No one would dare. The cup remained there, until the day he died. Everyone forgets that people are animals with instincts. We all think that we're so educated and smart, each of us thinks he's somehow above the rest, but at the end of the day we're just monkeys in suits, that need education. Sometimes, by punishment.
Idiots, all of them and now thief will get done for stealing and them for assault- clever, ehh?
Thats not how it works. Only the police can bait someone into stealing a bike or car. Insurance wouldnt cover you if they found out you made something easy to steal. its like saying "hey you want this bike?" and than hitting them with a bat when they take it
Everyone is just talking about the laws and the rights and the ways to punish criminals. Doesn't anyone think what are the reasons people resort to such behavior. I bet that usually there is a reason, for example sewere money problems. If there wouldn't be poverty there would only be crime caused by mental illness.
“Waaaaaa, I was stealing somebody’s bike and got punished”...Amerika has become a country of sissies.....should have killed him....
This is not cool at all. This was a set-up just to get footage to put onto YouTube to make money. The whole scenario falls under the heading of Entrapment. This couple put the bike there as bait setting up a camera and alarm system to "trap" thieves.
Where is the clip where we get to see the beating? This is a GREAT idea!
I don't see a problem in this. 1) cameras clearly show people entering the property and attempting to steal things, 2) reports of reoccuring thefts were filed to the police and the authorities didn't do anything about it, 3) wannabe-thieves were just beaten, no serious or life-threatening injuries were made, but next time they will think twice before stealing another thing. I want to be able to go out without fear of being mugged, I want to be able to leave sth in my yard without wondering will it be there later, I want to be able to go out of the house without fear in the back of my head which winders whether someone broke in. Is that too much?
Assault is only permissible as self defense. The couple was never in danger.
Load More Replies...All these people defending thieves. It would be a different story if they were the ones having their property stolen. No one has the right to take something that doesn't belong to them. You can't "lure" someone into stealing. I don't care what it is or where it is, the thief knows that it is not theirs. If this happened more often maybe would be thieves would have second thoughts. What's next can someone steal my car and then sue me because I didn't leave enough gas in the tank which then caused them to run out of gas and get caught by the police?
The difference between the two, is you don't combat a crime, by committing a crime yourself. Not having gas in your car is not a crime. Beating a thief with baseball bats is! And in this case, they intended the result from the beginning. That is indeed conspiracy. They didn't just happen to catch him stealing their bike...they planned it. You just can't respond to crime, by committing one yourself and expect to get off.
Load More Replies...Police don't do s**t. We literally had a GPS on one of our things stolen and the police still didn't do ANYTHING.
Load More Replies...I use to live that area. My house was robbed in the middle of the day, they took my computers and a gun. It took over 12 hrs before the police came to file a report.
I'd like to point out that it is the fault of politicians - via voters - that created that situation. Calizuela's pro-criminal stance and continual gutting of police resources and capability have led to this and its going to get worse.
Load More Replies...UNDER THE LAW The couple has the right to make a citizen's arrest and detain the thieves. UNDER THE LAW Assaulting them and not calling the police is a CRIME. If you don't like the LAW call your state legislators and try to get the LAW changed. Otherwise, you are committing a crime (not my opinion - just the facts).
Call State legislators. Yeah that'll help! smh. We all know that's a waste of time.
Load More Replies...On the one hand, you have theft of property worth say $150. On the other hand, grievious bodily harm inflicted as a first step --- not as an escalation from words to a scuffle to a full-blown fight. To the law, and to any sober thinking human it's quite clear where the balance lies.
Load More Replies...I am not defending the thieves, but I do believe that the couple's actions were a bit over the line. The thieves shouldn't be stealing, but the couple shouldn't be beating someone that severely over something like a bike. Now they will have to do jail time over a 150-300 dollar item. If they ever catch the thieves they should do jail time as well. In a civilized society, you don't take the law into your own hands. That's how lynchings occurred.
I still think beating the thief so much is not the right thing to do. Maybe restrain them and call the cops, but to just beat up like that is barbaric. Besides that, after reading some responses featured within the article, it makes me think of cases when "theft" is being presumed rather than witnessed. And, speaking in general, misunderstandings can happen as well. What if the supposed thief were not really a thief? For example when some stupid racist makes assumptions, or simply when someone's package came to the wrong address and the addressee noticed that and wants to take what has been misdelivered. No, unless you were assaulted, or something, there must be better ways of dealing with a thief.
I'd love to know how going onto someone's property and stealing their stuff is a 'misunderstanding'. The desire not to be robbed does not make you a racist, Daria.
Load More Replies...That's the price you pay when you steal someone's property...you never know how unbalanced someone can be, however that being said these people baiting thieves so they can beat them is pretty sick.
Why aren't the police doing their jobs? I'm not criticizing the police, I'm asking a question. Is it lack of resources and personnel? We can afford to spend trillions on bombs and prisons but we can't afford proper police protection?
Local police forces are mostly funded by local taxes. Some areas have very low tax revenue.
Load More Replies...They look weird as s**t, like the type of people you’d expect to do this lol
There is a big difference between justice and assault, if you wanted to work with the local police to set up a sting operation that would have been a good thing, but taking the law into your own hands when you weren't in danger of bodily harm is another. Common sense was not included in this plan to fix a problem.
This happened FOUR TIMES? And they decided to film and publicize their exploits? Sounds like they were enjoying both the violence and being famous for it. If you spot someone trying to steal from you and overreact in this way I could understand it. But baiting a trap so you can provide justification for future violence ISN'T reasonable, especially when you do it FOUR TIMES, film it and then distribute the video. In THIS case it's the 'victims' who are at fault. If you are laying a trap repeatedly with the intention of doing violence, not merely retrieving your goods, then YOU are the violent criminal..
I am ambivalent about calling it "baiting a trap." On the one hand, clearly they left the bike out intentionally, hoping someone would come steal it so they could beat the c**p out of them. Bait and trap. On the other hand, the "bait" is their bike. The "trap" is their lawn. A person should be able to leave their bike on the lawn as much as they want, and no one has any right to try to take it. It's only a "lure" to theives.
Load More Replies...If this happened in Texas or Florida instead, the thief would have been shot dead and the couple would have been hailed as heroes for committing man slaughter. Gotta love those "Stand Your Ground" laws. Don't get me wrong. California gun laws saved my life two years ago. And I can't thank that responsible gun shop owner who chose to run a background check and call the cops instead of selling a gun to the man who was going to murder me. They chose to NOT use deadly force. But, it wasn't exactly self defense. I would have taken a different approach. Maybe more along the lines of booby trapping the bike. A simple piece of black nylon cord would have sent Dipshit McTweaker over the handle bars.
There's a funny series of "pranks" on Youtube, in which folks either tether the bike to a post with a hidden cable such that it'll come to a very abrupt stop down a hill, or sabotage the bike's frame such that it'll fall apart after being ridden a short distance, giving the would-be thieves exactly what's coming to them.
Load More Replies...Too bad. People get fed up with robberies. I have no sympathy for the thieves.
All of you who say- they are in the right. You're missing the point. The bike wasn't there left just like that- they set it up only to beat anyone who takes it with bats. That's premeditated and they deserve to get done for it!!! As does a thief.
If one could count on the police to respond and actually handle the theft in a timely manner, then I'd consider the couple to be in the wrong. However, if they are unwilling or unable to assist a citizen in being secure in their property, the citizen should be permitted to handle the situation. There should be no expectation of safety when someone is committing a property crime against someone else. Maybe they'd think twice if they were risking a beat-down or worse. As it stands, thieves steal with impunity in most of the USA, with small-value property crimes not being something police are willing to handle.
I feel a sense of justice reading this... followed promptly by disappointment. A video recording of vigilante action doesn't seem smart.
I don't blame them. The bikes were on their property. This is what is wrong with the State of California and the country. Criminals have more rights than non criminals. he thieves have s****y parents. No moral compass and the typical attitude of they are entitled to what ever they want however they can get it.
Holy s**t so many r******d dumb f***s. Going by so many comments here if people aren't pro thievery then they are dumb AF and full of s**t. Like images of comments say you can't bait on your own f*****g property. Also logically and morally they have every right no exceptions in this case.
When the police won't prevent, deter, or punish crime, people will do it themselves. I am not a fan of beating people up, but people who are not thieves have nothing to fear from these people. Also, what we are calling "leaving bike out as bait" in this situation would be considered "leaving your bike in a perfectly normal and safe place" in most of the country.
I think sometimes people do need to take the law into their own hands (within reason ofc because there are SOME criminals that are actually dangerous not just stupid kids or adults stealing), but them using bats seems excessive IMO. Because stealing is wrong and insulting to terrify someone like that, as though nothing is sacred, but if they outnumbered the guy then using bats especially ones that appear metal could quite easily break bones and though hes wrong beating him with their fists could have just as easily gotten the point across.
I'm just thankful none of the victims were "people of colour" the headlines would read "wicked wicked white couple callously assault black man who allegedly stole something or other, however, a close family relative advised "he dinndu nuffin"
Better to attach of couple of strands of 100# test fishing line about 20-30m long to the bike frame and to a secure part of the building. That way the thieves' only injury comes when they try to pedal away and get a sudden lesson in the difference between momentum and inertia.
Serves them thieves right. If they don't want to get beaten up - they just... here's a shocker... shouldn't steal!
I hope the couple get's off. This level of crime is way below the interest of local PD. As a citizen you really have no recourse here. If this was Texas they would have have been blown away. I feel the worst for those that get their work tools stolen. Happens all the time around here.
Here’s the go fund me to help the couple with legal fees. They did nothing wrong. https://www.gofundme.com/f/please-help-corey-amp-savannah?utm_source=customer&utm_medium=copy_link-tip&utm_campaign=p_cp+share-sheet
The government sets sting operations all the time for drugs, prostitution, etc. I don't see how these thieves are suddenly victims. You break the law, and there will be consequences in one form or another...
If I was on the jury, I'd let them walk in a heartbeat. You deserve a beating if you want to be a thieving scumbag. I applaud them and don't give af that the thieves got injured. Don't be a thief and you won't get a beating. Seems like a very fair trade-off. Cops are more worried about the criminals and don't care if you were robbed and they certainly won't look for your stuff. Maybe if criminals knew someone was finally going to do something about it, they'd think twice.
Hurray for Florida and Castle Laws- Here when can outright shoot them if you feel threatened or beat the snot out of them (with non-lethal force) if they threaten your property. :) https://www.gunlaws.com/FloridaCastleDoctrine.htm https://www.uslawshield.com/force-defend-property-florida/
Dont forget this guy DECIDED on his own will to be a robber. Sooner or later criminals are goin to face the consequences of their choices. Now a question for an U.S citizen: if the victims used a gun that be ok cause its part of the constitution?
It’s unfortunate they feel they have no other recourse but vigilantism. If those with the means would quit shirking their duty and start contributing (e.g. quitting all their complaining and paying their fair share of federal, state, and local taxes), there would be ample funding for adequate police training and staffing, amongst other public services and infrastructure. Then there would be enough officers to respond to chronic problems like this. I mean, where else do wealthy people think the money for all that comes from?
https://abogadosdeaccidentesahora.com/locaciones/abogados-de-accidentes-en-santa-ana-avenida-grand/
This is seious I hope some lawyers give them a lesson https://abogadosdeaccidentesahora.com/locaciones/abogados-de-accidentes-en-santa-ana-avenida-grand/
Stealing is wrong, violence is wrong. Two wrongs do not make a right.
As someone who has had several bikes stolen, it is perfectly acceptable to beat any thief for any theft infraction. These sting operations prevented someone innocent having their bike stolen. So there!
In the 1990s, 20 years before Denver went BOOM!, a warehouse owner set up a booby trap for those who might break in through the back door. His shotgun trap killed two teens and injured another homeless person. He tried using Colorado's "Stand Your Ground" law, but that was struck down. He was convicted of two counts of second-degree murder and one count of assault with a deadly weapon.
Den Star and Scott M: Bored Panda has hidden your comments for some reason.
Someone could have been killed. Killing to save your life is one thing, killing over a bike is another. It's stupid and irresponsible. I would hate to kill anyone even if I had to to save a life but to kill over this, unthinkable.
Vigilantism is not the answer, society would fall into total and complete chaos. Hold them for police, they will come for a suspect being held, they do not run out too quickly after your house has been robbed, when there is no longer a threat to the people or property, to compare the two situations is ridiculous, small minded and under educated.
Finding blood on the sidewalk is a bit disturbing knowing how it got there.... Scare the c**p out of the thief but don't harm them to the point of a hospital visit jesus. I get why they are so angry and want to hurt the thieves, you just get to a point where you are constantly losing things you've worked so hard for just so some loser junkie can come along and take it. I'd be tempted to do the same thing tbh if i was getting robbed all the time.
Vigilante justice This leads to taking the law into your own hands, and lynchings. These are two low grade thugs trying to feel important.
It's simple. If it's not yours, don't touch it. Reminds me of a legend of Vlad the Impaler. It is said that Vlad the Impaler was so confident in the justice of his rule, that he placed a cup made of gold at the fountain in the middle of Targoviste citadel, so that all the thirsty people could use the cup to drink but not to steal it. No one would dare. The cup remained there, until the day he died. Everyone forgets that people are animals with instincts. We all think that we're so educated and smart, each of us thinks he's somehow above the rest, but at the end of the day we're just monkeys in suits, that need education. Sometimes, by punishment.
Idiots, all of them and now thief will get done for stealing and them for assault- clever, ehh?
Thats not how it works. Only the police can bait someone into stealing a bike or car. Insurance wouldnt cover you if they found out you made something easy to steal. its like saying "hey you want this bike?" and than hitting them with a bat when they take it
Everyone is just talking about the laws and the rights and the ways to punish criminals. Doesn't anyone think what are the reasons people resort to such behavior. I bet that usually there is a reason, for example sewere money problems. If there wouldn't be poverty there would only be crime caused by mental illness.
“Waaaaaa, I was stealing somebody’s bike and got punished”...Amerika has become a country of sissies.....should have killed him....
This is not cool at all. This was a set-up just to get footage to put onto YouTube to make money. The whole scenario falls under the heading of Entrapment. This couple put the bike there as bait setting up a camera and alarm system to "trap" thieves.
Where is the clip where we get to see the beating? This is a GREAT idea!
I don't see a problem in this. 1) cameras clearly show people entering the property and attempting to steal things, 2) reports of reoccuring thefts were filed to the police and the authorities didn't do anything about it, 3) wannabe-thieves were just beaten, no serious or life-threatening injuries were made, but next time they will think twice before stealing another thing. I want to be able to go out without fear of being mugged, I want to be able to leave sth in my yard without wondering will it be there later, I want to be able to go out of the house without fear in the back of my head which winders whether someone broke in. Is that too much?
Assault is only permissible as self defense. The couple was never in danger.
Load More Replies...All these people defending thieves. It would be a different story if they were the ones having their property stolen. No one has the right to take something that doesn't belong to them. You can't "lure" someone into stealing. I don't care what it is or where it is, the thief knows that it is not theirs. If this happened more often maybe would be thieves would have second thoughts. What's next can someone steal my car and then sue me because I didn't leave enough gas in the tank which then caused them to run out of gas and get caught by the police?
The difference between the two, is you don't combat a crime, by committing a crime yourself. Not having gas in your car is not a crime. Beating a thief with baseball bats is! And in this case, they intended the result from the beginning. That is indeed conspiracy. They didn't just happen to catch him stealing their bike...they planned it. You just can't respond to crime, by committing one yourself and expect to get off.
Load More Replies...Police don't do s**t. We literally had a GPS on one of our things stolen and the police still didn't do ANYTHING.
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