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I recently shared a photo I'm proud of on Instagram. Reactions ranged from very positive to those denying my work the title of “a photograph,” calling it “computer graphics,” or “photo-graphics.” This got me thinking. Do people really understand the concept of photography art and why are they so adamantly against photo manipulation?

I became passionate about creative photography after the birth of my twin daughters Annabella and Juliette; my little kids inspire me every day in my work. Through photography, I strive to enter the world of my two children, to grasp all the childhood whimsies, and to recreate these magical moments that we all look back on and smile. This means using whatever photographic tools will get me closest to that vision. Photo editing is just one of those tools.

Photography was invented over 180 years ago, but it's only with the relatively recent invention of digital editing software that creative photo manipulation has become the subject of popular controversy. Really though, this just shows our lack of awareness of the history of photography: image manipulation didn't start with Photoshop. In fact, it's always been an essential part of what photographers do.

As I dug a little deeper, I came to realize that art and news photographers have been manipulating their photographs since the very first days of photography. So the argument that a particular image is less of a photograph because it has been retouched didn't seem at all convincing to me. If we started ruling out retouched and photoshopped images from the category of photographs, we would be left with not a single photograph in the world.

Since the invention of photography, image manipulation has been a key part of it. The 19th-century photographers liked to call it “removing imperfections” from the shot, and they did it by painting directly onto the glass-plate negatives. Sometimes, an entire person would be “painted out”. Moreover, they would combine multiple frames in the darkroom to add dramatic elements to their stunning pictures.

Similarly, most new photographs, made over the course of the last century, will have been cropped, dodged, burned, and even painted to some degree. The photographer does this in order to better illustrate the story in the paper. Even the snaps in the family photo album vary, depending on the film, the chemicals, and the color settings used. Most photos are certainly not simply neutral, un-manipulated snatches of the real world. They are rather a real-world story told in a beautiful way.

Sure, I can see why heavy use of Photoshop might be worrying in the area of photojournalism, but I do not consider myself a documentary photographer. Far from it. In fact, I think my work is a little like making a still movie. Image manipulation has always been a part of filmmaking too, but nobody ever suggested that a movie using a blue - screen or CGI is not a movie (cinematography?). There is art in applying these techniques as well. Thus, I will use whatever photographic tools will get me closest to my photo ideas.

The word photography literally means writing or drawing with light. The process of making an entirely computer-generated image - such as a digital illustration or animation - couldn't really be described as "writing with light." This contrasts sharply with my way of working: in simple terms, I make images using a box with a hole that lets light in - so they can definitely be considered "photo-graphs". The fact that I edit these images afterward using software doesn't change this. In any case, it's not fundamentally different from what people were doing in the darkroom over a century ago.

Now that I have tried to raise awareness about the history of and about photography in general, I would like to hear your opinion. How would you define photography? Please share your thoughts on when a photograph stops being a photograph. How much manipulation is too much manipulation?

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Bobbi Newell
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This one, for me, has the most dramatic change in mood. It goes from enjoying small moments despite adversity, to the sweet, pure innocence of childhood.

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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You did not just "remove imperfections from the shot"... This is a whole lot more of changing. It still is very beautiful work.

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Kim Lorton
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Lilia, these are all beautiful photographs! The different tonal qualities you show make each one so different! They are amazing! Most people don’t understand the definition of the word photograph or photographer. A picture does not a photographer make! But you, are a true photographer! Thank you, for these amazing sweet pictures!

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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

While the crop of second photo is better, I like the green of trees in the first one more.

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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I actually much prefer the unaltered photo on this entry. There's authentic, cheerful fall crispness about it that quite draws me in. I think this is lost in all the red tones applied in the altered photo and the rain effect comes off as very false. For some reason it reminds me of those rather tacky Sears Family Photo pics circa 1970's & '80's where the subject was placed in a champagne glass or something with a loved one in profile looming them. Again, just my opinion and the original photo is lovely in its own right.

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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I actually prefer the original photo here. It's much more ethereal and pleasant to my eye than the second one, which changes to an almost hellish, bizarre feel. I mean no offense, it's just my opinion. From all the shots, this one with the girl on the beach is the one that I think it's been worked a bit too much. Very beautiful photos, though.

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Chicago Kitty
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I agree, there's something almost apocalyptic about the background in the altered photo.

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Kerri Russ
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OMG... ease up on the reddish and orange! It really hurt my eyes as I scrolled down. The deep saturation really detracts from the girl and her lantern, which I think pops in the original.

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Morgen Stern
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is going far too far, IMO. The altered photo looks so artificial that it lost all emotion.

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Why don't you back off because this is not your work, why don't you try working your butt of and doing this work. Exactly.

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Phoebes
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If that were my child, I'd buy and hang both in different parts of my house. Gorgeous!!!

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Terry Sanders
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The first few are simple color corrections. There's no room for relevant criticism any more than criticizing a photo lab for corrections to it's prints. As the gallery descends, however, the simple corrections begin to morph into surprisingly maudlin compositing. The photographs themselves are sensitive, seen nicely, and self-sufficient, I don't get the need to turn them into Thomas Kinkaid kitsch.

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Patricia Moran
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I love how you make sure that the main subjects(these gorgeous children) of your photographs are always the priority. Your lighting and color work enhances the children’s faces. Your color work is amazing. Unfortunately no matter what you do in life somebody will be a total turd about it. Continue following your vision, it’s spot on. I’m obviously not a professional, but your work makes me relaxed and happy while I view it. Art is supposed to make you feel, you’re doing your job!

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Dominique
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I’m sad to say I don’t like the second one. Too much work done on the child’s complexion, but that’s just my opinion

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Caroline Seguin
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Well, I think it's beautiful photography. I like the second photo better because you see the little girl's face better. As for the tone and colours, it's up to the artist to decide what she likes? I notice she puts a lot of yellow or warmth in most of her shots in photoshop. So what? It's beautiful!

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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

the second one looks like there's a fire behind the girl, too much red, the original is way better.

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Sunny Bhanushali
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Your pictures look great with and even without the photoshop processing.

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Kerry Burnette
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I love being able to see the children's facial expressions - which you accomplish with your applications. Awesome, gorgeous photos!!!

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Faith Nicole
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

These are all beautiful photis. Original and enhanced. I jave an ootion on my phones camera to enhance the coloring in photos or make them look more vintage / b&w / nostalgic. I see nothing wrong as to why anyone would criticize your work. Everyone enhances something in life..from adding eyeshadow to bring out their eyes, the type of bra you wear to add shape to shoes with a heel to add some height.

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Kenna
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is definitely my favourite. I'm a 16 year old photographer and I definitely need Photoshop lessons from you.

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Paul Dixon
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Once again I prefer the original. Her version distracts from the child and is way too much orange.

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Lesa Shelton
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

All of the pictures are very good, but it seems that you have a dislike for natural colors. Some enhancement is fine, but when it comes across as unnatural, it hurts the picture. You can also get into the trap of making unattainable beauty. The red-headed girl is beautiful just the way she is.

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Caroline Seguin
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I like the second photo better. Yes, this photographer likes to change her colours and usually puts a lot of yellow back into it but one the second photo we see the little girl's face better!

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Brad Williams
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I view post production in the same way I view makeup. Use a light touch. Post production tools should be used to enhance what is already there, not create something that wasn't. So the question how much manipulation is too much manipulation? When you start introducing elements that were never there to begin with. The composition must always start with the camera. Using the right ISO, aperture and speed to achieve the desired effect is basic. Then consider filters (neutral density filters do wonders for great photographs). Only take it to post to fix minor issues such as light blasting, color correction, burning and dodging. The first two photos are a perfect example of this. The image of the two kids under the umbrella is cute, but over-done. You moved from photography to CGI. To a lesser extent you did the same with the beach scene (a neutral density filter of 2 stops would have been amazing there). I agree those last two look more like photo graphics, than photographs.

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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The original is more pleasing for sure- the only thing I would do is brighten/define the figure similar to the altered version...and then barely touch the background. I understand that it's sometimes really hard to know when to stop ( I'm a perfectionist artist too) but sometimes the best thing to do is let go and trust the power of the original image. I think your work is really beautiful, and you're definitely headed in the right direction... just need to exercise your editing eye

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Andrea Lewis
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think the real art comes from the skill of knowing how to light and stage and frame naturally. It takes real skill to be able to take a stunning photo in the field. I still use my old Canon 35mm with a matchstick needle. There is a lot to be said about knowing the right combination of f-stop and aperature etc.

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Hans Barsun
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm assuming that the top ones are the originals. Guess the luddite in me is coming out, or perhaps just a color/tone preference. I prefer them to the retouched version.

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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm not a photographer at all, so I can only say that some of these really do look better before all the processing.

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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I like them both again. Perhaps I'm just not feeling hugely fussy this afternoon!! I think the way the little girl stands out more crisply in the second image works well. The colours to me are just warm.

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Nicole Putnam
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The altered photos feel more like it is about the environment and not the real kids. I don’t mind lightening up a dark spot or something basic but if you have to create something completely new it isn’t photography

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Hülya Yamanoglu
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The processed version of the photograph next to the original took my breath away. I was fascinated. I can make a book of fairy tales from this square. I think it is very successful. Great photos and great touches. Each of them has turned into a magnificent one in their own field.

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Kat K
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I like the color scale on original photo more, it´s very soft and gentle, also the lantern looks great and the color of sky is just gorgeous, I really like sunset photos like that :)

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Kris Van de Vijver
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

First of all, there's no right or wrong, it"s all a matter of taste. Some people prefer a photo to be untouched or even "raw" (and not necessarily visually pleasing) and some prefer to look at a 'sugar-coated" digital painting (eye-candy). Some prefer colder, others want to see warmth. But a photographer or artist in general should *never* want to please his/her audience. It's important that you edit and post the images that *you* love, without compromising. Unless your aim is to be commercially successful and then you should probably consider to please your clients, as you probably need the income and the clients are paying for the images. In case you're curious, for me personally, most photos here are edited too much and I would love to see something in between the original and the edited version. But as I said, it's personal. You can compare editing with cooking: some prefer very spicy, others prefer medium spiced and some people want little herbs to have the original taste.

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Sandy Carbone
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

These are stunning works of art. Keep doing what you're doing.

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Jeannie Carle
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Oh! The first one, please! Just lighten her face - leave the red out!

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Christine Dam
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You are a photographer for your customer, not and pictural artist. so less photoshop is better

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Barry Toney
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I prefer the original, the edited version looks cartoonish or painted, especially her face.

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Isabella
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The second image doesn't look like a photo anymore (and again so much red and orange!). No doubt Lilia that you have good photoshop skills, but important is how they are used. Remember, less is more.

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Eva Koepsell
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

lighting the girls face is good...the red back and foreground is too sinister

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Alexandr Ukolov
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Obviously it's the matter of taste, but I agree with those who like original photos better.

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Roy Powell
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I like what Photoshop did with the little girls face. I don't like the "manufactured" sky.

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Brigitta Swart
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What photographers did way back when, i.e. removing imperfections and what photographers do now are two totally different things. When you manipulate a photo that much that it changes the scenery and makes it look like lala land...that is just not good photography. Good photoshop skills probably, but not good photography.

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Diane Diggs
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes, the second photo actually looks like a very lovely painting. I wonder if that is the look you were going for?

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