“We’re In Canada So We Only Paid For Parking”: People Online Are Comparing What They Paid For Childbirth And What Americans Pay
The healthcare system in the US is always the target of criticism from people in other countries. They hear the heartbreaking stories of Americans not being able to afford their medication and avoiding calling an ambulance because they fear what the bill will look like. Especially when they compare that to their own experience of having a calm heart knowing that if they need medical assistance, it won’t make them go bankrupt.
Literally every single service you get at the hospital in the US has a price. Even if you are not sick. Even if you are giving birth. A lot of people have heard about the crazy bills people get for being hospitalized, but not so many know the crazy amounts Americans have to pay after the stay at the hospital after giving birth. The trend of moms saying how old their children were when they paid off their bills went viral on TikTok and made foreigners grateful that they didn’t need to worry about that.
TikToker mslilyflowers asked parents when they finally paid off their hospital bill for childbirth and the answers divided into two big camps
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It’s expensive enough to raise a child just as it is. Maybe you wouldn’t think it is at first, because people tend to think that babies are alive on love alone. But what about a stroller, a bed, a car seat, and all the clothes that need to be renewed as the baby is growing very rapidly? Other unexpected expenses?
And on top of worrying how parents will prepare their children for college 18 years later, they have to deal with the enormous hospital bills they receive after.
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Americans were dropping some big numbers and showing their bills which said that they owed thousands of dollars
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A TikTok user whose account no longer exists but had the username @mslilyflowers asked other moms, “How old was your baby when you paid off the hospital bill for having them?” She herself said that it was not until her kid turned two years old.
Other moms related and shared the amounts they have to pay off for staying at the hospital. They were saying that they are in debt thousands of dollars. The amounts are bigger if the babies had to stay in the neonatal intensive care unit where they are taken if they are born prematurely or need care because of complications. The cost also includes the care of the mother after the delivery.
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A woman who had triplets received a bill of over $3 million but luckily the bigger part was covered by insurance
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Most Americans have insurance, but every insurance company has different policies and all people have to pay different amounts
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Some people are more lucky than others and they have insurance that covers a part of the hospital debt and parents will have less to pay. Over 90 percent of Americans have insurance, but it doesn’t cover all medical costs; also, every insurance company has a different policy and different hospitals have contracts with different insurance companies so even if you have insurance but you go to the wrong hospital, you may not be covered.
While giving birth is covered partially by the insurance companies, people will still receive the bill and will see the amount that it took them to bring a child into this world.
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A study published in the online journal Health Affairs says that parents with employer insurance paid $4,569 in 2015 for the delivery, the hospital stay and the postpartum care. The price goes up if the mother has to have a C-section, if the child or the mother have any complications and the price also greatly varies depending on which state in the US the birth takes place.
Non-Americans were mostly saying they didn’t pay anything at all, unless you consider parking a hospital bill
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There were people who had to pay a couple of hundred dollars, but it was because they chose to have private rooms and otherwise they wouldn’t have paid anything
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A lot of people related to the original video but moms from other countries were shocked to find out that Americans pay to give birth. In such countries as Canada, Australia, and the UK, where the moms on TikTok were from, the biggest cost was the parking. And if they received any sort of bills from the hospital, it was because they chose to have a private room. Other than that, they didn’t pay anything for the hospital stay.
It is because those countries have universal free healthcare systems that simple checkups, giving birth, having certain operations and staying in the hospital doesn’t cost them any extra money. It could be that the government is paying for all medical care or citizens are required to purchase private insurance, but even then, the amounts don’t even come close to what Americans are paying.
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Even Kate Middleton’s royal childbirth was less expensive than some of these women’s
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To compare, it is estimated that the total cost for Duchess of Cambridge Kate Middleton giving birth to her daughter Princess Charlotte in the luxurious accommodations that a royal family would have cost about $18,000, which is oftentimes significantly less than most births in the US.
So what makes the bills for childbirth in the USA so scary to many families? Well, the hospitals charge for the mother’s hospital stay and that varies from person to person. They also charge for the baby’s care: any medication, the nursery, special needs, tests, any devices that were used, etc. The mother’s appointments with a gynaecologist, the anesthetist, ultrasounds, blood tests and medication all add up to the bill.
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Most women were just shocked not at the amounts but at the idea that parents had to pay anything at all
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Tell us your experience with giving birth and if you had to pay anything for it? With which women do you relate more? And how do you feel about Americans having to pay so much money that they can go bankrupt for basic healthcare? Leave your thoughts and reactions in the comments!
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This makes me sick. "Universal health care will never work here". As long as the billionaires aren't paying their share taxes it won't. I hate it here.
Ain't it the truth? When confronted with these facts, politicians in response is usually 'Homina, homina.'
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I know the rest of the bills were horrible, but I can sympathize with that woman's mother who had to pay 18€ for parking at the hospital. That's absolutely outrageous. Did they at least valet and wash it?
Welcome to America. "We force you to have an unwanted child, and here's your $100K bill, too!" WTF? (Note: US-born & bred, and hate this BS.)
🎶🎵This is why i want to move out of this country as soon as possible🎶🎵
Have an American friend who is disabled, which sadly makes it hard for her to find and keep a job. She wants to leave but no country will take her (no money = no entry, same everywhere). Makes me realize how incredible EU-citizenship really is, knowing I can move to any other member state, no questions asked.
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A lot of people I know will never have that much money in their life wtf. Also here ( in Germany ) you basically get paid to have kids, child support is a big thing here. Sometimes up until the "kid" is 25 if they struggle with health and education.
You don't even have to struggle. If the "kid" still goes to school till 25, then he/ she is entitled to "child support" from the state. (German too and I benefited from during Ausbildung)
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Wow. Just... wow. I live in Poland which is a realy s**t country for a lots of reasons, but giving birth in public hospital costs you 0, no matter what happens. Giving birth with a private doctor... 2000$ at most. And you have 6 months leave from work 100% paid.
Before I submitted the paperwork to have my hospital costs covered by charity, one representative suggested I just break down the bill to $15,000 a year for the next 20 years, or $30,000 a year for the next 10 years. At the time I made minimum wage, which meant my entire paycheck would go towards hospital fees.
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We were outraged by the bill after we left hospital. To our (unpleasant) surprise, we were asked to pay £4.00 for parking. I was saving that money for a 'meal deal' at Tesco.
Add a few zeros to the end in USA, even with insurance.
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Reading this I don't understand how Americans can even live. I mean a woman with triplets and 1.2 MiO $ each??! The interest alone would kill me. How did U.S end up being such a f****d up country?
Reading stories like these always make me feel so grateful I am from the Netherlands since the only thing you have to pay for it the parking fee.
Yikes am I ever grateful to be Canadian. My wife had two c-sections and it cost us a grand total of $180 combined. It would have been free but we opted to have the large, private room, so my wife could recover in peace.
We paid for a private room for a week as my son had jaundice after an emergency delivery. Other than that, paid nothing
Once a USA child is born, they get their own deductible! So the mother's costs and baby's costs can stack up separately!
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I had a late term miscarriage in 2007. The bill to NOT bring my babies home after they were "born" at 21.5 weeks was more than $86,000. I still have ptsd thinking about sobbing in my nursery dealing with postpartum depression and mourning the loss of my children while someone on the phone told me that if I could pay 20k in full right then they would consider it settled. I was 23 years old and had just finished college. I took the hit on my credit and did not pay a dime. My credit score was in the 200s for the 7 years it took to come off. But it still infuriates me that any of this happened to me AND that it happens to women all the time. It's unforgivable
Oh and this was before the extension of parent coverage. So I was not covered by my parents insurance. I was paying an exorbitant for my own insurance from my full time job (barely above minimum wage) I worked through my entire college career.
Load More Replies... It's so absurd. You literally pay to have a child, you PAY OFF a child.. And childcare expenses don't end with birth, you need so many things after that, then school and then college. I really don't understand how there are still people thinking america is "great"...
I genuniely remember getting told off by my wife because I was complaining that the admin assistant doing her checking-out paperwork was distracted and it meant the car parking tipped over into another 24 hour period. The car parking was something like £30 in the end. I was furious.
Holy crap. It's free in Ireland (well if you go public anyway). You've enough money to be spending on stuff for the baby too. Unreal.
In Korea, I paid almost $2,000 but that was fancy family suite (only option for dad to be in the room) and an epidural ($500). For the second, I think we actually GOT money, like $70
With my first, people kept asking if I'd go to America to have my baby. I just laughed and said no, I'd rather go on vacation or buy a car with that amount of money!
Load More Replies... The parking is expensive. Everything else is covered by the health care system. What do people in the US do when they don't have a good employer health plan?
Here's the thing- in the U.S. even good insurance won't cover everything. My friend got pregnant unexpectedly and because she was a high-risk pregnancy she would need to see the doctor twice a month for the first few months and then once a week the last few. She would also need several tests done throughout her pregnancy. She had insurance through her job with one of the largest healthcare providers in the U.S. She actually had to quit her job and apply for welfare because they would cover only two sonograms and absolutely no other tests. They would also only cover one doctor's visit a month. And like I said, she had better coverage than most. It's really ridiculous.
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Well, at this point it's fairly safe to say that the government and the wealthy are really trying to put an end to people with no money breeding. Between the cost of insurance, the debt collects, the laws against abortion and generation Y just not producing, we are at the point of lowering the population. Not that some people aren't actively trying to put an end to that too.
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The only people who are shocked by this have been living under a rock for the past five years. The US has expensive healthcare that may or may not be covered by insurance, but those in charge refuse universal healthcare because "socialism". There - that's the headline for the next time this crops up.
Load More Replies... All three children born in the US, in three different states. I think we paid for parking, for one of them. The difference: we were a military family, and all costs were paid for by the military health care system. I shudder to think what it would have cost us if we were not a military family! The irony is that I knew literally dozens of people in the military who would rant and rave about the 'evils' of socialized medicine, without realizing that they enjoyed the benefits of a 'socialized' medical system.
I'm sorry but the republican party, which includes manchin and sinema, will never allow universal health care. It will hurt their corporate masters profit line.
I had a great midwife - who is covered by my provincial health care. Gave birth in the hospital. I would have paid for a private room, but there was only one other family in the maternity wing that night, so we were each given private rooms at no charge! Parked across the street in an empty lot, so that was free. Literally paid NOT A CENT, and had in-home care for 8 weeks after shew as born!
I had a private room for 3 days after giving birth to my son, total cost for everything: 240€. (Finland)
We were supposed to pay NOK 200 ($24) per night my husband stayed in hospital with me during the birth of our oldest, which was a drawn-out induction that took 3 days. We never got an invoice though. We had two more kids after that. Only paid for parking. All check-ups and doctor's appointments are free until they turn 16. As were all my pre-natal checkups. This is in Norway.
I specifically selected my health insurance because of how much it covered in relation to child birth and all the appts before, and until the baby is 2. 1st child: $500, 2nd: 0... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
The thing with these USA healthcare features is that we all know it is screwed up, we get it. It’s not being fixed because none of the USA political leaders that can change it have to put up with it like citizens do, plus significant funding of political campaigns come from insurance companies. Next time you are at a healthcare provider in the USA ask for the cash price, vs, insurance billed, and see the big difference. ..something is wrong that there is even a difference.
There's no reason it shouldn't be possible in the blue states. All you'd need is a government insurance agency that insures the state population and charges a levy coupled with a state pharmaceutical company that negotiates cheap prices. You could even get the insurance from an existing supplier. California with its population size would have huge bargaining power.
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I paid $40 for my son in Ft Lauderdale 38 years ago. We were a charity case and he and I almost died. My mom paid 50 cents for me...the nurse's lunch as she had Blue Cross/Blue Shield 75 years ago.
35k 8 k after insurance and u was paying 40% taxes state and federal
Danish here... Our first child involved some complications, so I stayed with my wife and son for about a week. While C-section, son and wife was free, I had to pay 100kr/day for food and stuff (about 13,2usd).
Seems like the medical profession needs to be held accountable for high prices. Nothing the government handles has ever turned out well. I can't leave my health and financial security in the hands of politicians.
The United States Sucks when my husband and I have kids. I am not going to the hospital. I'll do it on my own. F**k the doctors.
Universal health care in the US will never, ever, ever happen. Just one reason is that as long as the politicians are bought and paid for by the military/mercenary/hardware industries, the will and impetus isn't going to happen. The republicans will continue to consolidate their power with corruption and dirty tricks, emboldened by the evil and brilliant strategies devised by Ronald Thrump. Anyone who thinks Trump and the republicans are dumb is in a fantasy land.
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My son was in the NICU for four days, then a Children's Hospital for twelve more days. My bill was just shy of $300,000. Luckily the Children's Hospital was a charity hospital and they forgave my debt after I submitted enough paperwork to prove there's no way I could pay that big of a bill, even if it took a decade. Now when I have a little extra I try to donate to such hospitals to help the next generation of Americans who get screwed over by our ridiculous healthcare system.
But...but...if I don't pay the hospital for holding my own child, they won't let me hold my own child!
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Yet most pople want to come to America compared to other amazing countries with everything free! Somebody explain to me why 20% of world’s immigrant pooulation go to America—which is way higher than anywhere else in the world. Germany is #2 with less than 5%. Canada is #10! So then world is stupid for not going to other countries right? Stupid immigrants!!
Ignorant immigrants. Also the problems they are escaping from aren’t quite like the problems they are coming towards.
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Has anyone played BioShock Infinite? Where you wonder around the environment and get clues explaining that the utopia is actually an Ayn Rand objectivist hellhole? That's america.
I do think that American healthcare is messed up. It's because of insurance. It's messed up in cost definitely. But I guarantee that I would never go anywhere else for any important surgery or procedure. And the whole freaking world knows that. Also, as commonly believed, NO ONE gets turned away in the US, regardless of finance.
" But I guarantee that I would never go anywhere else for any important surgery or procedure. And the whole freaking world knows that" Ahhh the typical, arrogant American "the whole freaking world knows that", geez you've got tickets on yourself, nobody knows you from a bar of soap ,lmao. Also, plenty of other countries have just as high a standard, or in many cases better health care and standards than America. "the whole freaking world knows that" ROFLMAO
Load More Replies... Settle down. The poor in US have medicaid insurance and pay nothing for all medical care including having babies. That said nothing is free. Canadians and UK pay much higher taxes which helps pay for the Healthcare they receive. Americans (middle and upper middle class) also are paid higher wages. Yes I think insurance costs too much here. I pay $1000/month. Everyone is paying for healthcare one way or another.
Umm, the poorest of the poor have Medicaid. Also, the process in order to obtain it varies by state, some are more complicated. When I say poor, I mean, for a household of 1, you can't make more than $17,000-something a year. If you make over that, no Medicaid. So the person has to choose between quality of life (obtaining a decent paying job to afford an okay home in a safe-ish place) and living in the dumps for free healthcare. In order to have Medicaid you have to stay poor.
Load More Replies... If America is so bad why do everyone migrate TO USA, raher than other great countries?
Take a look at the people trying to get in versus the people complaining. Check out their stories. The people already here can see that green grass and it’s not as green as they want it to be. The people trying to get in haven’t even seen grass before.
Load More Replies... Another viral shitok video with people covering the screen with their faces.What is wrong with people using tiktok?Is it a disease,a trend,an urge...?I didn't even read the article because i know it is #usabad #worldgood.
We have seen this already X times on BP, I think everyone has now understood the US healthcare is not cool.
Well everyone doesn't understand it, or it would have changed by now. The message needs to be repeated over and over until it is fixed.
Load More Replies... the Norway lady................everything was free except braces obviously
I'm perfectly happy to pay 20% tax on my income so that neither me nor my fellow Brits are saddled with a ridiculous bill when we're most in need. Oh, and the first 12,500 of what I earn is untaxed anyway. Didn't they work out that income tax on the US and UK is broadly the same, only Americans get a lot less in return?
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2018 average tax for a single person with no kids: Canada 22.8% -- United States 26.1%... 2018 corporate tax: Canada 26.5% -- United States 27%... State tax vs Provincial Tax is where Canadians pay more, but that is very hard to compare with all the possibilities. But Canadians pay closer to 10% where an American would pay 5%.... --- Overall that's a fair price considering what they get in return.
Load More Replies... With universal healthcare large providers (like the NHS) have both the power and incentive to force pharmaceutical companies to lower their prices.
Load More Replies... This makes me sick. "Universal health care will never work here". As long as the billionaires aren't paying their share taxes it won't. I hate it here.
Ain't it the truth? When confronted with these facts, politicians in response is usually 'Homina, homina.'
Load More Replies... I know the rest of the bills were horrible, but I can sympathize with that woman's mother who had to pay 18€ for parking at the hospital. That's absolutely outrageous. Did they at least valet and wash it?
Welcome to America. "We force you to have an unwanted child, and here's your $100K bill, too!" WTF? (Note: US-born & bred, and hate this BS.)
🎶🎵This is why i want to move out of this country as soon as possible🎶🎵
Have an American friend who is disabled, which sadly makes it hard for her to find and keep a job. She wants to leave but no country will take her (no money = no entry, same everywhere). Makes me realize how incredible EU-citizenship really is, knowing I can move to any other member state, no questions asked.
Load More Replies... A lot of people I know will never have that much money in their life wtf. Also here ( in Germany ) you basically get paid to have kids, child support is a big thing here. Sometimes up until the "kid" is 25 if they struggle with health and education.
You don't even have to struggle. If the "kid" still goes to school till 25, then he/ she is entitled to "child support" from the state. (German too and I benefited from during Ausbildung)
Load More Replies... Wow. Just... wow. I live in Poland which is a realy s**t country for a lots of reasons, but giving birth in public hospital costs you 0, no matter what happens. Giving birth with a private doctor... 2000$ at most. And you have 6 months leave from work 100% paid.
Before I submitted the paperwork to have my hospital costs covered by charity, one representative suggested I just break down the bill to $15,000 a year for the next 20 years, or $30,000 a year for the next 10 years. At the time I made minimum wage, which meant my entire paycheck would go towards hospital fees.
Load More Replies... We were outraged by the bill after we left hospital. To our (unpleasant) surprise, we were asked to pay £4.00 for parking. I was saving that money for a 'meal deal' at Tesco.
Add a few zeros to the end in USA, even with insurance.
Load More Replies... Reading this I don't understand how Americans can even live. I mean a woman with triplets and 1.2 MiO $ each??! The interest alone would kill me. How did U.S end up being such a f****d up country?
Reading stories like these always make me feel so grateful I am from the Netherlands since the only thing you have to pay for it the parking fee.
Yikes am I ever grateful to be Canadian. My wife had two c-sections and it cost us a grand total of $180 combined. It would have been free but we opted to have the large, private room, so my wife could recover in peace.
We paid for a private room for a week as my son had jaundice after an emergency delivery. Other than that, paid nothing
Once a USA child is born, they get their own deductible! So the mother's costs and baby's costs can stack up separately!
Load More Replies... I had a late term miscarriage in 2007. The bill to NOT bring my babies home after they were "born" at 21.5 weeks was more than $86,000. I still have ptsd thinking about sobbing in my nursery dealing with postpartum depression and mourning the loss of my children while someone on the phone told me that if I could pay 20k in full right then they would consider it settled. I was 23 years old and had just finished college. I took the hit on my credit and did not pay a dime. My credit score was in the 200s for the 7 years it took to come off. But it still infuriates me that any of this happened to me AND that it happens to women all the time. It's unforgivable
Oh and this was before the extension of parent coverage. So I was not covered by my parents insurance. I was paying an exorbitant for my own insurance from my full time job (barely above minimum wage) I worked through my entire college career.
Load More Replies... It's so absurd. You literally pay to have a child, you PAY OFF a child.. And childcare expenses don't end with birth, you need so many things after that, then school and then college. I really don't understand how there are still people thinking america is "great"...
I genuniely remember getting told off by my wife because I was complaining that the admin assistant doing her checking-out paperwork was distracted and it meant the car parking tipped over into another 24 hour period. The car parking was something like £30 in the end. I was furious.
Holy crap. It's free in Ireland (well if you go public anyway). You've enough money to be spending on stuff for the baby too. Unreal.
In Korea, I paid almost $2,000 but that was fancy family suite (only option for dad to be in the room) and an epidural ($500). For the second, I think we actually GOT money, like $70
With my first, people kept asking if I'd go to America to have my baby. I just laughed and said no, I'd rather go on vacation or buy a car with that amount of money!
Load More Replies... The parking is expensive. Everything else is covered by the health care system. What do people in the US do when they don't have a good employer health plan?
Here's the thing- in the U.S. even good insurance won't cover everything. My friend got pregnant unexpectedly and because she was a high-risk pregnancy she would need to see the doctor twice a month for the first few months and then once a week the last few. She would also need several tests done throughout her pregnancy. She had insurance through her job with one of the largest healthcare providers in the U.S. She actually had to quit her job and apply for welfare because they would cover only two sonograms and absolutely no other tests. They would also only cover one doctor's visit a month. And like I said, she had better coverage than most. It's really ridiculous.
Load More Replies... Well, at this point it's fairly safe to say that the government and the wealthy are really trying to put an end to people with no money breeding. Between the cost of insurance, the debt collects, the laws against abortion and generation Y just not producing, we are at the point of lowering the population. Not that some people aren't actively trying to put an end to that too.
Load More Replies... The only people who are shocked by this have been living under a rock for the past five years. The US has expensive healthcare that may or may not be covered by insurance, but those in charge refuse universal healthcare because "socialism". There - that's the headline for the next time this crops up.
Load More Replies... All three children born in the US, in three different states. I think we paid for parking, for one of them. The difference: we were a military family, and all costs were paid for by the military health care system. I shudder to think what it would have cost us if we were not a military family! The irony is that I knew literally dozens of people in the military who would rant and rave about the 'evils' of socialized medicine, without realizing that they enjoyed the benefits of a 'socialized' medical system.
I'm sorry but the republican party, which includes manchin and sinema, will never allow universal health care. It will hurt their corporate masters profit line.
I had a great midwife - who is covered by my provincial health care. Gave birth in the hospital. I would have paid for a private room, but there was only one other family in the maternity wing that night, so we were each given private rooms at no charge! Parked across the street in an empty lot, so that was free. Literally paid NOT A CENT, and had in-home care for 8 weeks after shew as born!
I had a private room for 3 days after giving birth to my son, total cost for everything: 240€. (Finland)
We were supposed to pay NOK 200 ($24) per night my husband stayed in hospital with me during the birth of our oldest, which was a drawn-out induction that took 3 days. We never got an invoice though. We had two more kids after that. Only paid for parking. All check-ups and doctor's appointments are free until they turn 16. As were all my pre-natal checkups. This is in Norway.
I specifically selected my health insurance because of how much it covered in relation to child birth and all the appts before, and until the baby is 2. 1st child: $500, 2nd: 0... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
The thing with these USA healthcare features is that we all know it is screwed up, we get it. It’s not being fixed because none of the USA political leaders that can change it have to put up with it like citizens do, plus significant funding of political campaigns come from insurance companies. Next time you are at a healthcare provider in the USA ask for the cash price, vs, insurance billed, and see the big difference. ..something is wrong that there is even a difference.
There's no reason it shouldn't be possible in the blue states. All you'd need is a government insurance agency that insures the state population and charges a levy coupled with a state pharmaceutical company that negotiates cheap prices. You could even get the insurance from an existing supplier. California with its population size would have huge bargaining power.
Load More Replies... I paid $40 for my son in Ft Lauderdale 38 years ago. We were a charity case and he and I almost died. My mom paid 50 cents for me...the nurse's lunch as she had Blue Cross/Blue Shield 75 years ago.
35k 8 k after insurance and u was paying 40% taxes state and federal
Danish here... Our first child involved some complications, so I stayed with my wife and son for about a week. While C-section, son and wife was free, I had to pay 100kr/day for food and stuff (about 13,2usd).
Seems like the medical profession needs to be held accountable for high prices. Nothing the government handles has ever turned out well. I can't leave my health and financial security in the hands of politicians.
The United States Sucks when my husband and I have kids. I am not going to the hospital. I'll do it on my own. F**k the doctors.
Universal health care in the US will never, ever, ever happen. Just one reason is that as long as the politicians are bought and paid for by the military/mercenary/hardware industries, the will and impetus isn't going to happen. The republicans will continue to consolidate their power with corruption and dirty tricks, emboldened by the evil and brilliant strategies devised by Ronald Thrump. Anyone who thinks Trump and the republicans are dumb is in a fantasy land.
The hassle of business management is unending and i hope it's continues like this. I was in debt, I needed to start up a business of my own and a loan company that I contacted online gave me a loan and now I have my own Business. you can contact them on their Company Email: (masfinancialservices11@gmail.com) They are Trustworthy and reliable.
My son was in the NICU for four days, then a Children's Hospital for twelve more days. My bill was just shy of $300,000. Luckily the Children's Hospital was a charity hospital and they forgave my debt after I submitted enough paperwork to prove there's no way I could pay that big of a bill, even if it took a decade. Now when I have a little extra I try to donate to such hospitals to help the next generation of Americans who get screwed over by our ridiculous healthcare system.
But...but...if I don't pay the hospital for holding my own child, they won't let me hold my own child!
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Yet most pople want to come to America compared to other amazing countries with everything free! Somebody explain to me why 20% of world’s immigrant pooulation go to America—which is way higher than anywhere else in the world. Germany is #2 with less than 5%. Canada is #10! So then world is stupid for not going to other countries right? Stupid immigrants!!
Ignorant immigrants. Also the problems they are escaping from aren’t quite like the problems they are coming towards.
Load More Replies... Has anyone played BioShock Infinite? Where you wonder around the environment and get clues explaining that the utopia is actually an Ayn Rand objectivist hellhole? That's america.
I do think that American healthcare is messed up. It's because of insurance. It's messed up in cost definitely. But I guarantee that I would never go anywhere else for any important surgery or procedure. And the whole freaking world knows that. Also, as commonly believed, NO ONE gets turned away in the US, regardless of finance.
" But I guarantee that I would never go anywhere else for any important surgery or procedure. And the whole freaking world knows that" Ahhh the typical, arrogant American "the whole freaking world knows that", geez you've got tickets on yourself, nobody knows you from a bar of soap ,lmao. Also, plenty of other countries have just as high a standard, or in many cases better health care and standards than America. "the whole freaking world knows that" ROFLMAO
Load More Replies... Settle down. The poor in US have medicaid insurance and pay nothing for all medical care including having babies. That said nothing is free. Canadians and UK pay much higher taxes which helps pay for the Healthcare they receive. Americans (middle and upper middle class) also are paid higher wages. Yes I think insurance costs too much here. I pay $1000/month. Everyone is paying for healthcare one way or another.
Umm, the poorest of the poor have Medicaid. Also, the process in order to obtain it varies by state, some are more complicated. When I say poor, I mean, for a household of 1, you can't make more than $17,000-something a year. If you make over that, no Medicaid. So the person has to choose between quality of life (obtaining a decent paying job to afford an okay home in a safe-ish place) and living in the dumps for free healthcare. In order to have Medicaid you have to stay poor.
Load More Replies... If America is so bad why do everyone migrate TO USA, raher than other great countries?
Take a look at the people trying to get in versus the people complaining. Check out their stories. The people already here can see that green grass and it’s not as green as they want it to be. The people trying to get in haven’t even seen grass before.
Load More Replies... Another viral shitok video with people covering the screen with their faces.What is wrong with people using tiktok?Is it a disease,a trend,an urge...?I didn't even read the article because i know it is #usabad #worldgood.
We have seen this already X times on BP, I think everyone has now understood the US healthcare is not cool.
Well everyone doesn't understand it, or it would have changed by now. The message needs to be repeated over and over until it is fixed.
Load More Replies... the Norway lady................everything was free except braces obviously
I'm perfectly happy to pay 20% tax on my income so that neither me nor my fellow Brits are saddled with a ridiculous bill when we're most in need. Oh, and the first 12,500 of what I earn is untaxed anyway. Didn't they work out that income tax on the US and UK is broadly the same, only Americans get a lot less in return?
Load More Replies... 2018 average tax for a single person with no kids: Canada 22.8% -- United States 26.1%... 2018 corporate tax: Canada 26.5% -- United States 27%... State tax vs Provincial Tax is where Canadians pay more, but that is very hard to compare with all the possibilities. But Canadians pay closer to 10% where an American would pay 5%.... --- Overall that's a fair price considering what they get in return.
Load More Replies... With universal healthcare large providers (like the NHS) have both the power and incentive to force pharmaceutical companies to lower their prices.
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