Viral Tweet Sparks Debate On Why This Generation Isn’t Soft Or Weak For Quitting Toxic Jobs As Older People Like To Criticize Them
Differences between generations are caused by the natural development of humanity. Because we have different experiences from the world surrounding us, we will have a different outlook to the world than our parents did even though we were raised by them and were taught the values they believe in.
The differences are evident in various areas of life and they’re often easily distinguishable. For example, Twitter user Yugopnik shared his thought about how the older generation observes that young people don’t remain at one company for long if they feel like it is interfering with their life too much and calls them soft for that, but he completely disagrees with that.
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Twitter user points out that calling the younger generation soft or weak for quitting toxic jobs doesn’t make any sense
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Yugopnik describes himself as a “Balkan Slavic Socialist with a YouTube essay channel and cohost of @TheDeprogramPod.” He says he “Dresses like Tito, drinks like Yeltsin, and talks like Žižek.”
The tweet in question went quite viral with 95k likes, so evidently, many people share the same sentiment about not staying in a job that has a toxic environment.
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He understands that sometimes life circumstances may not permit one to quit a job, but other than that, there is no reason to torture oneself for a job
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Yugopnik says that he finds it funny when older people call the younger generation soft or weak if they can’t handle managers who demand too much but don’t pay enough. He understands that some people don’t have a choice and just have to stay to be able to feed themselves and their loved ones, but other than that, he doesn’t think the consequences are worth it.
The comments were filled with people sharing the same sentiment
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Many of them couldn’t find logic in the accusation as employees just are looking for better options
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Twitter users had a heated discussion in the comments. The majority of people agreed that they consider it normal to quit working at a place you don’t feel is suited for you. Some said that doing that is actually an act of self-care and a sign of self-respect.
If you think about it, a standard workweek is 40 hours, so you spend most of your time awake working. So why would you want to spend all that time working for someone who doesn’t appreciate you or with people who make your life harder than it should be? Especially when the circumstances allow you to quit and find something better.
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They feel that if a person is being mistreated and not valued in the company, they have no business remaining there
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Another argument that a lot of people said their older relatives or acquaintances mentioned was that young people don’t have loyalty to their employers and are changing their jobs as if they were socks.
It all comes back to the same reason of not putting up with a toxic working environment as a lot of people feel that they don’t receive the same loyalty from their employers and after a while it just makes them search for better options.
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Many times people aren’t even paid enough to make the suffering worth having a luxurious life
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Not only were people trying to explain why quitting a job that makes you die inside is a very sensible decision, they came for the older generations for having meltdowns when they are asked to put masks on for others’ and their own safety.
Also, if you really think about it, it’s not that easy to walk out from a job. However toxic it is, it is still a source of income, you’re already familiar with it and with the people working with you. The unknown and uncertainty is always scary, so quitting a job in hopes to find a better one is actually quite brave.
To compare, one Twitter user said that the moments when the older generation has meltdowns are when they have to follow life-saving regulations
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Although the vast majority of Twitter commenters fully agreed with Yugopnik, there were some who thought that persevering at a job that you don’t like toughens character and shows a person’s ability to adapt.
After reading all the opinions and reasons, you are really left convinced that if you are not happy with where your life is going, you try to change that and it’s weird to be called soft or weak for that.
Actually, quitting a job is often seen as a bold move because uncertainty is always frightening, but it’s worth overcoming it to get free from a toxic situation
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What do you think of Yugopnik’s opinion? Would you agree with Twitter users who support it or do you think that young people don’t know how to deal with uncomfortable situations? Share your reflections in the comments!
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Share on FacebookWhat we all need to remember is that every previous generation that ever existed has called the next but one generation after them stupid names. It's been going on for centuries. It's not new. It's not different It's not specific to any generation or group of people. It's still stupid, but it's nothing new.
These generational groups, boomers, X, Y, etc are just marketing ploys to sell people stuff hey don't need based on when they were born. There were no generational groups before boomers, and they were called boomers based on the increase of births after WWII.
Load More Replies...Calling a whole generation any name is always too simplistic to be pertinent.
I particularly hate this "war" between boomers and millennials. People should except one another's differences and respect one another. What good does it do to be angry?
Load More Replies...My body will never fully recover b/c I did everything required to work to pay for education, to pay rent, to pay bills, to *eat*, to have medical care b/c we weren't well off enough to afford insurance and not poor enough for Meidcaid. (US, if you can't guess, LOL.) The grinding exhaustion b/c you can't do all that and still get enough sleep, you're never able to eat healthy b/c you don't have time to cook a good meal, it's just what you can grab, and your body just ages faster than the calendar says it does. I probably knocked 20 years off my life. If I did it again? I"d sooner have the frigging student debt. Sometimes. Just to have not been full-time worker, full-time student, just... no. Never. Don't. Not worth the long-term effect. Rant over.
I see my cousin work over 10 hrs a day and get paid the bare minimum. She works in the software sector. It's jst crazy how much she puts her energy into her work, only to get 50% of what she deserves.
There's this material on BoredPanda about how man are/were taught to 'dislike women'. You Pandas might want to check it out as this is really good (even though rather depressing) stuff. One of the few non-comparative things i was taught (i'm GenX, go figure!) as a kid was that a man should be r-e-s-i-l-i-e-n-t. It was not an opposition to the other gender, it was simply stated to me (thousands of times) in my face, as an 'objective' fact. So if one can't handle the harsh treatment he's not manly enough, period. I believe this might be the reason why older generations see younglings quitting the job for many different reasons as soft/ weak. I'm not trying to be judgemental here, to make things clear, i'm just looking for an explanation (i didn't read the whole thing though fiy, sorry if it was pointed out before smh).
Also Gen X. I think our parents stressed resiliency and self-sufficiency to justify their non-parenting. (We have been referred to as "the least parented generation".) Those can be good traits, but they can also be negative - sometimes it's better to quit or to ask for help. I see Millennials doing the best they can with the very bad situation they grew into. I think they're 100% correct to reject toxic jobs and demand something better.
Load More Replies...Some of us can't just hop on to the next job. I have a family to feed and have depression and bipolar disorder. I work hard at whatever is given to me at wages that would make you cringe. I don't think about it as cowardice. It takes courage.
I think this point is made up above by one of the posters -they say sticking it out to support your familiy is courage.
Load More Replies...“Your never going to get anywhere in life if you don’t let rich people exploit you.” 🤣
I want to know whether she said that verbatim and if she knows that "to be exploited" is not in fact a good thing.
Load More Replies...There’s nothing wrong either with doing an 8-5 passionless job if it has good benefits and pays you enough to support your interests and hobbies.
Absolutely! The odds of finding a job that you're passionate about are extremely low, because in most "passion" fields the competition for places is so fierce that jobs pay little or nothing. Literally. In the arts and related businesses, employers are shamefully shameless about using interns and volunteers instead of adequately compensated employees. So for most humans, a job where you have adequate payment, a decent work-life balance, and you don't feel morally corrupted by your work, well, that's as good as it gets for most of us. Better than it ever gets for a lot of us.
Load More Replies...I threw myself into my first after school job at a supermarket wholeheartedly. They used me, I did boss level work for youth wages, opened the dept and closed it, had to train my own boss. And then they had the nerve to call me lazy (it was actually the deputy manager fobbing her s**t on me, thinking I would be an easy target). I brought all the log books to the disciplinary meeting: every day she said I was lazy had my signature only for (deli)cleaning, cooking, dishes, sanatising etc, and I can guarantee I served 90% of customers on those days, and the duty manager backed me up. I'd always thought "work hard be loyal blah blah blah" 😡 well, they could never cover my 10 hour Saturday shift without splitting it into three etc, no one wanted to cover it (horrible shift). So I came in on Friday one hour before closing with my uniform in a bag along with my letter of resignation and a matching medical certificate. Apparently 6 others left within a fortnight 😃
On reflection I was fortunate and privileged to have been able to just quit, even if I was at high school. I was thinking about it just now, and if I had had to stay in that job, that would have been spirit breaking s**t. And that is reality for so many ppl, and I'm sorry if I seemed flippant in my above comments, I did not think about it properly from the viewpoint of others.
Load More Replies...I remember maybe 8 years ago I read an article (I am also Slavic, Balkan) in some paper where some journalist complained on like 2 full pages of article how younger generations are "spoiled" because they want to work in their own profession. She was angry, ranting how young people should work "in fields" or in post office or any available job not just wait for job in their profession for which they studied for years. Though it appeared journalist and me were same age, I totally disagree. All people have right to work wherever they want. If you studied for 4 or 5 years and love and want to work in your profession you have every right to do it! Whatever age you are. Even more, in some profession if you lose few years, you can become almost unemployable! Of course everyone should strive to have job they want and they are good at! Why the hell would that even be an issue?
There's a peculiar "protestant work ethic" tradition in the english speaking world whcih equates misery and suffering with virtue - something Weber argued - like, you earn salvation by suffering / working hard. Strangely, I always found that the catholics were more into suffering. But I digress. The point is, there's a kind of sense of pride in suffering through misery. So deliberately working at a job that makes you miserable for years, is some kind of sick martyrdom that they're proud of. And anyone who ISNT interested in martyrdom, gets seen as "soft".
Load More Replies...I'm in my 60s and *lots* of people in my age group quit jobs they didn't like to pursue whatever turned their crank. We got flack but who cares(d). I went through a whack of jobs until I settled on a career path that I fancied in my mid 30's. I left jobs due to boredom, micromanagers, idiots and 'just cuz'.
The moment I quit my toxic job was liberating AF! "I have come to the realization that I am over qualified for the position"
I gotta admit i didn't read all of this. I'm a boomer and have never heard any of these remarks. I think it's part of Pandas new format. Spread all the undocumented, negative hearsay you can find. Just what we need, more unnecessary pot stirring.
OK Kenny so scroll down to "Freder" below and see a boomer making EXACTLY these claims.
Load More Replies...I had a conversation with my 27 year old son. We both agree that this is the same thing that motivated miners to strike and textile workers to walk off leaving machines silent and earning potential nil for everyone. Sometimes that's what it takes. I'm proud of them. We should be cooking meals and making go fund me for this.
I'm Gen X and I've been railing against the hostile work environment and outright illegal acts by corps, all. my. life. A whistleblower when it wasn't cool. I'm quite certain I ended up on a well shared "naughty list" (still on it also). Sooo sick of first question at an interview being "Why u wanna work for us?" My answer: You all called me. (what I'd like to add: "....so came because I figure the paychecks won't bounce")
I'm Gen-X and totally applaud and support the outright rejection of toxic work culture, abusive management, and the expectations demanding martyrdom for a job. That sh!t broke me, and as I was watching it happen spoke out against it in favor of a workforce revolution which I never thought would happen The only way to make change is to attack the industry at it's false premise - that the employee and customer aren't as important as their executive board or investors. Watch what happens when business collapse when neither workers nor customers will sponsor the bad behavior and adversarial relationship they promote. Bravo!!
The other side of the story is that younger workers these days can be fragile & easily offended to the point of being unreasonable. Example #1, customer service at a hardware store turned around and walked away from helping me. My crime: she did not understand that I was asking if the store had any used portable generators for sale they had taken back under warranty replacement after the recent lengthy power outage. She kept saying that warranty problems were handled by corporate. I tried to tell her that I was not asking about how to handle a warranty problem, I wanted to know if the store had an inventory of used generators for sale at a discount. The rep felt I was being disrespectful because I did not like her answer. I repeated the question several times to the same answer, so she walked away from the customer service booth acting wounded. I was very offended that she would just walk away. Strange, and no, I was not being gruff, obnoxious, abusive, or unkind. She had zero tolerance for any sort of perceived disrespect. Example #2: I had a question about the meaning of a three-letter mnemonic on a will distribution form sent me by a major nationwide bank. I kept getting non-answers and the run-around by cust. service. I asked to speak to a supervisor. He escalated by insisting that I had to come in to the local branch and talk personally to a representative so they could be sure who they were talking to. The representative at the local branch was equally unhelpful. Apparently, they all felt that they would be providing high-level legal fiduciary advice if they defined one of their alphabet soup of numerous mnemonics. The corp. did not provide an online page to define their numerous mnemonics. I kept getting more annoyed and frustrated until I left. I found out what it meant doing a google search. So what is the big secret? I was just asking for the definition of one of their code word mnemonics. I was not asking their opinions and recommendations on a long-term, high-dollar investment strategy at their bank. Defining a commonly-used business term does not create a binding fiduciary agency relationship. They should have known that working at the big-name bank with all their training. Apparently, they felt I was disrespecting them by being annoyed at their refusal to help me with a reasonable question. I will never do business with that bank again since this sort of fragility and arrogance seems to be part of their corp. culture. And don't blame it on me, I was polite and friendly. The young people just wanted to assert themselves by being unhelpful since they were so fragile and determined not to take the slightest bull off of a customer. This sort of excessive fragility to the point that you won't work with a customer is unnecessary and unprofessional, young people. Stop it. You are not that delicate, fragile, or special to the point that you must be babied all the time.
What cracks me up is when you ask the older ppl who b!tch over younger ones "not wanting to work" why dont they work those jobs then . And the resond with "hell no those jobs are s**t/why would i degrade myself like that" like THERES YOUR ANSWER MORON
I am a boomer and never stayed in a job more than two years because I was not willing to sell my soul or make myself sick just for the job. In my parents' day, employers were loyal to there employees so there was a reason to be loyal, but that actually changed for the boomer generation. If you really investigated I bet you would find more boomers who were like me. I have to say that I get really tired of the boomer/"old people" bashing. We are not all alike, just as not all young people are alike, Look to the broader picture, please.
I'd say you can reverse this. I know no old people at all that had one job, they all made redundant several times (no payouts), worked in crap jobs, ok jobs, struggled to pay for things, had little "toys", hated war and the excuses for it, some ran away from their own countries, inc my mum, so where does this stereotyping come from?
It depends on country. I *do* know someone who worked one job his entire life. I won't go into details. But yeah, they exist. And he was proud of sticking it out, and saving up for retirement. So I asked him, ok, so you worked hard, all your life, doing something you literally didn't care about, to save up money... to do what you want... for a couple of years at the end of your life? It's like not living for 40 years in order to "live" for 10-15, when your health is failing and options like travel aren't realistic anymore. Sad.
Load More Replies...These generational biases really need to end. It's not ok to judge people on anything besides character and age is not an exception. Every generation has amazing wonderful people, every generation has terrible, selfish people. Look at your own ideals and core beliefs; realize the long history of where they come from. We all stand on the shoulders of giants. We all should try to learn from past mistakes. Those that come after us will do the same.
I'm a Boomer who is not much for criticizing younger generations. Every generation faces different issues and situations. Well, unfortunately there are things that just keep keeping on😠. Racism, sexism etc. But things change with each generation and each generation has to deal with different issues in the workplace. However, when it comes to younger generations, they come with new ideas to change/improve things as time goes on. I appreciate that so much. New ideas are always needed. I'm glad they're discovering and putting their foot down about how people are expected to "be" their jobs. No. There is friends, family, mental health and that requires balance. Really? Managers in the service sector? Put on a uniform, the customers don't know you're management and find out what your staff have to put up with for an unfair wage. Things have changed. Employer loyalty? Gone. They'll take from you everything they can take and demand more. Gen X, bring on the new ideas. Have a good life!
"Unless you have to feed your family" ..... What are you going to do to feed yourself?
Any person who has control over your paycheck is not your friend. Too many employees forget that and think the boss would go the extra mile for them. That will never happen. If you're told in an interview that they are like a family, don't react, don't smile, nothing. You are not marrying into your job, keep it separate from your home life. Employers need to do better.
I think in about 5 years these folks are not going to be singing the exact same tune because life in general doesn't care about your feelings.
True, unless they can start their own businesses and deploy more ethical business models for their staff.
Load More Replies...The employment model shifted from lifelong careers where upper management was present and upward mobility possible to major corporations filling positions through staffing agencies with people they never hire. A friend worked for a company for 14 years and 9 months, was fired, and then brought back on through a staffing agency. All pride in workmanship was gone. All company loyalty was shot.
It used to be possible to buy a house and raise a a family on a modest salary. People on a modest salary now can often barely afford to eat. The older generations who are (directly or indirectly) responsible for this are equally as responsible for messing up our planet for younger and future generations - and refuse to act, even now. And yet somehow the young are the bad ones. The inequality in our society and the mess our planet is in now will take generations to fix, if it's even possible.
Also, consider this: if one hires a sex worker, it's a limited relationship, in all ways, for all concerned. Pay included. Everyone moves on after the job is quickly complete. If something is desired of a more quality relationship, with love, and the perks of loyalty, fealty,legal reasons, love etc, negotiation must be undertaken, and a legal framework established, protecting all parties. If they want more than a quick lay for quick pay, Put a ring on it.
Not sure what you're getting at? That sex work is the solution?
Load More Replies...What we all need to remember is that every previous generation that ever existed has called the next but one generation after them stupid names. It's been going on for centuries. It's not new. It's not different It's not specific to any generation or group of people. It's still stupid, but it's nothing new.
These generational groups, boomers, X, Y, etc are just marketing ploys to sell people stuff hey don't need based on when they were born. There were no generational groups before boomers, and they were called boomers based on the increase of births after WWII.
Load More Replies...Calling a whole generation any name is always too simplistic to be pertinent.
I particularly hate this "war" between boomers and millennials. People should except one another's differences and respect one another. What good does it do to be angry?
Load More Replies...My body will never fully recover b/c I did everything required to work to pay for education, to pay rent, to pay bills, to *eat*, to have medical care b/c we weren't well off enough to afford insurance and not poor enough for Meidcaid. (US, if you can't guess, LOL.) The grinding exhaustion b/c you can't do all that and still get enough sleep, you're never able to eat healthy b/c you don't have time to cook a good meal, it's just what you can grab, and your body just ages faster than the calendar says it does. I probably knocked 20 years off my life. If I did it again? I"d sooner have the frigging student debt. Sometimes. Just to have not been full-time worker, full-time student, just... no. Never. Don't. Not worth the long-term effect. Rant over.
I see my cousin work over 10 hrs a day and get paid the bare minimum. She works in the software sector. It's jst crazy how much she puts her energy into her work, only to get 50% of what she deserves.
There's this material on BoredPanda about how man are/were taught to 'dislike women'. You Pandas might want to check it out as this is really good (even though rather depressing) stuff. One of the few non-comparative things i was taught (i'm GenX, go figure!) as a kid was that a man should be r-e-s-i-l-i-e-n-t. It was not an opposition to the other gender, it was simply stated to me (thousands of times) in my face, as an 'objective' fact. So if one can't handle the harsh treatment he's not manly enough, period. I believe this might be the reason why older generations see younglings quitting the job for many different reasons as soft/ weak. I'm not trying to be judgemental here, to make things clear, i'm just looking for an explanation (i didn't read the whole thing though fiy, sorry if it was pointed out before smh).
Also Gen X. I think our parents stressed resiliency and self-sufficiency to justify their non-parenting. (We have been referred to as "the least parented generation".) Those can be good traits, but they can also be negative - sometimes it's better to quit or to ask for help. I see Millennials doing the best they can with the very bad situation they grew into. I think they're 100% correct to reject toxic jobs and demand something better.
Load More Replies...Some of us can't just hop on to the next job. I have a family to feed and have depression and bipolar disorder. I work hard at whatever is given to me at wages that would make you cringe. I don't think about it as cowardice. It takes courage.
I think this point is made up above by one of the posters -they say sticking it out to support your familiy is courage.
Load More Replies...“Your never going to get anywhere in life if you don’t let rich people exploit you.” 🤣
I want to know whether she said that verbatim and if she knows that "to be exploited" is not in fact a good thing.
Load More Replies...There’s nothing wrong either with doing an 8-5 passionless job if it has good benefits and pays you enough to support your interests and hobbies.
Absolutely! The odds of finding a job that you're passionate about are extremely low, because in most "passion" fields the competition for places is so fierce that jobs pay little or nothing. Literally. In the arts and related businesses, employers are shamefully shameless about using interns and volunteers instead of adequately compensated employees. So for most humans, a job where you have adequate payment, a decent work-life balance, and you don't feel morally corrupted by your work, well, that's as good as it gets for most of us. Better than it ever gets for a lot of us.
Load More Replies...I threw myself into my first after school job at a supermarket wholeheartedly. They used me, I did boss level work for youth wages, opened the dept and closed it, had to train my own boss. And then they had the nerve to call me lazy (it was actually the deputy manager fobbing her s**t on me, thinking I would be an easy target). I brought all the log books to the disciplinary meeting: every day she said I was lazy had my signature only for (deli)cleaning, cooking, dishes, sanatising etc, and I can guarantee I served 90% of customers on those days, and the duty manager backed me up. I'd always thought "work hard be loyal blah blah blah" 😡 well, they could never cover my 10 hour Saturday shift without splitting it into three etc, no one wanted to cover it (horrible shift). So I came in on Friday one hour before closing with my uniform in a bag along with my letter of resignation and a matching medical certificate. Apparently 6 others left within a fortnight 😃
On reflection I was fortunate and privileged to have been able to just quit, even if I was at high school. I was thinking about it just now, and if I had had to stay in that job, that would have been spirit breaking s**t. And that is reality for so many ppl, and I'm sorry if I seemed flippant in my above comments, I did not think about it properly from the viewpoint of others.
Load More Replies...I remember maybe 8 years ago I read an article (I am also Slavic, Balkan) in some paper where some journalist complained on like 2 full pages of article how younger generations are "spoiled" because they want to work in their own profession. She was angry, ranting how young people should work "in fields" or in post office or any available job not just wait for job in their profession for which they studied for years. Though it appeared journalist and me were same age, I totally disagree. All people have right to work wherever they want. If you studied for 4 or 5 years and love and want to work in your profession you have every right to do it! Whatever age you are. Even more, in some profession if you lose few years, you can become almost unemployable! Of course everyone should strive to have job they want and they are good at! Why the hell would that even be an issue?
There's a peculiar "protestant work ethic" tradition in the english speaking world whcih equates misery and suffering with virtue - something Weber argued - like, you earn salvation by suffering / working hard. Strangely, I always found that the catholics were more into suffering. But I digress. The point is, there's a kind of sense of pride in suffering through misery. So deliberately working at a job that makes you miserable for years, is some kind of sick martyrdom that they're proud of. And anyone who ISNT interested in martyrdom, gets seen as "soft".
Load More Replies...I'm in my 60s and *lots* of people in my age group quit jobs they didn't like to pursue whatever turned their crank. We got flack but who cares(d). I went through a whack of jobs until I settled on a career path that I fancied in my mid 30's. I left jobs due to boredom, micromanagers, idiots and 'just cuz'.
The moment I quit my toxic job was liberating AF! "I have come to the realization that I am over qualified for the position"
I gotta admit i didn't read all of this. I'm a boomer and have never heard any of these remarks. I think it's part of Pandas new format. Spread all the undocumented, negative hearsay you can find. Just what we need, more unnecessary pot stirring.
OK Kenny so scroll down to "Freder" below and see a boomer making EXACTLY these claims.
Load More Replies...I had a conversation with my 27 year old son. We both agree that this is the same thing that motivated miners to strike and textile workers to walk off leaving machines silent and earning potential nil for everyone. Sometimes that's what it takes. I'm proud of them. We should be cooking meals and making go fund me for this.
I'm Gen X and I've been railing against the hostile work environment and outright illegal acts by corps, all. my. life. A whistleblower when it wasn't cool. I'm quite certain I ended up on a well shared "naughty list" (still on it also). Sooo sick of first question at an interview being "Why u wanna work for us?" My answer: You all called me. (what I'd like to add: "....so came because I figure the paychecks won't bounce")
I'm Gen-X and totally applaud and support the outright rejection of toxic work culture, abusive management, and the expectations demanding martyrdom for a job. That sh!t broke me, and as I was watching it happen spoke out against it in favor of a workforce revolution which I never thought would happen The only way to make change is to attack the industry at it's false premise - that the employee and customer aren't as important as their executive board or investors. Watch what happens when business collapse when neither workers nor customers will sponsor the bad behavior and adversarial relationship they promote. Bravo!!
The other side of the story is that younger workers these days can be fragile & easily offended to the point of being unreasonable. Example #1, customer service at a hardware store turned around and walked away from helping me. My crime: she did not understand that I was asking if the store had any used portable generators for sale they had taken back under warranty replacement after the recent lengthy power outage. She kept saying that warranty problems were handled by corporate. I tried to tell her that I was not asking about how to handle a warranty problem, I wanted to know if the store had an inventory of used generators for sale at a discount. The rep felt I was being disrespectful because I did not like her answer. I repeated the question several times to the same answer, so she walked away from the customer service booth acting wounded. I was very offended that she would just walk away. Strange, and no, I was not being gruff, obnoxious, abusive, or unkind. She had zero tolerance for any sort of perceived disrespect. Example #2: I had a question about the meaning of a three-letter mnemonic on a will distribution form sent me by a major nationwide bank. I kept getting non-answers and the run-around by cust. service. I asked to speak to a supervisor. He escalated by insisting that I had to come in to the local branch and talk personally to a representative so they could be sure who they were talking to. The representative at the local branch was equally unhelpful. Apparently, they all felt that they would be providing high-level legal fiduciary advice if they defined one of their alphabet soup of numerous mnemonics. The corp. did not provide an online page to define their numerous mnemonics. I kept getting more annoyed and frustrated until I left. I found out what it meant doing a google search. So what is the big secret? I was just asking for the definition of one of their code word mnemonics. I was not asking their opinions and recommendations on a long-term, high-dollar investment strategy at their bank. Defining a commonly-used business term does not create a binding fiduciary agency relationship. They should have known that working at the big-name bank with all their training. Apparently, they felt I was disrespecting them by being annoyed at their refusal to help me with a reasonable question. I will never do business with that bank again since this sort of fragility and arrogance seems to be part of their corp. culture. And don't blame it on me, I was polite and friendly. The young people just wanted to assert themselves by being unhelpful since they were so fragile and determined not to take the slightest bull off of a customer. This sort of excessive fragility to the point that you won't work with a customer is unnecessary and unprofessional, young people. Stop it. You are not that delicate, fragile, or special to the point that you must be babied all the time.
What cracks me up is when you ask the older ppl who b!tch over younger ones "not wanting to work" why dont they work those jobs then . And the resond with "hell no those jobs are s**t/why would i degrade myself like that" like THERES YOUR ANSWER MORON
I am a boomer and never stayed in a job more than two years because I was not willing to sell my soul or make myself sick just for the job. In my parents' day, employers were loyal to there employees so there was a reason to be loyal, but that actually changed for the boomer generation. If you really investigated I bet you would find more boomers who were like me. I have to say that I get really tired of the boomer/"old people" bashing. We are not all alike, just as not all young people are alike, Look to the broader picture, please.
I'd say you can reverse this. I know no old people at all that had one job, they all made redundant several times (no payouts), worked in crap jobs, ok jobs, struggled to pay for things, had little "toys", hated war and the excuses for it, some ran away from their own countries, inc my mum, so where does this stereotyping come from?
It depends on country. I *do* know someone who worked one job his entire life. I won't go into details. But yeah, they exist. And he was proud of sticking it out, and saving up for retirement. So I asked him, ok, so you worked hard, all your life, doing something you literally didn't care about, to save up money... to do what you want... for a couple of years at the end of your life? It's like not living for 40 years in order to "live" for 10-15, when your health is failing and options like travel aren't realistic anymore. Sad.
Load More Replies...These generational biases really need to end. It's not ok to judge people on anything besides character and age is not an exception. Every generation has amazing wonderful people, every generation has terrible, selfish people. Look at your own ideals and core beliefs; realize the long history of where they come from. We all stand on the shoulders of giants. We all should try to learn from past mistakes. Those that come after us will do the same.
I'm a Boomer who is not much for criticizing younger generations. Every generation faces different issues and situations. Well, unfortunately there are things that just keep keeping on😠. Racism, sexism etc. But things change with each generation and each generation has to deal with different issues in the workplace. However, when it comes to younger generations, they come with new ideas to change/improve things as time goes on. I appreciate that so much. New ideas are always needed. I'm glad they're discovering and putting their foot down about how people are expected to "be" their jobs. No. There is friends, family, mental health and that requires balance. Really? Managers in the service sector? Put on a uniform, the customers don't know you're management and find out what your staff have to put up with for an unfair wage. Things have changed. Employer loyalty? Gone. They'll take from you everything they can take and demand more. Gen X, bring on the new ideas. Have a good life!
"Unless you have to feed your family" ..... What are you going to do to feed yourself?
Any person who has control over your paycheck is not your friend. Too many employees forget that and think the boss would go the extra mile for them. That will never happen. If you're told in an interview that they are like a family, don't react, don't smile, nothing. You are not marrying into your job, keep it separate from your home life. Employers need to do better.
I think in about 5 years these folks are not going to be singing the exact same tune because life in general doesn't care about your feelings.
True, unless they can start their own businesses and deploy more ethical business models for their staff.
Load More Replies...The employment model shifted from lifelong careers where upper management was present and upward mobility possible to major corporations filling positions through staffing agencies with people they never hire. A friend worked for a company for 14 years and 9 months, was fired, and then brought back on through a staffing agency. All pride in workmanship was gone. All company loyalty was shot.
It used to be possible to buy a house and raise a a family on a modest salary. People on a modest salary now can often barely afford to eat. The older generations who are (directly or indirectly) responsible for this are equally as responsible for messing up our planet for younger and future generations - and refuse to act, even now. And yet somehow the young are the bad ones. The inequality in our society and the mess our planet is in now will take generations to fix, if it's even possible.
Also, consider this: if one hires a sex worker, it's a limited relationship, in all ways, for all concerned. Pay included. Everyone moves on after the job is quickly complete. If something is desired of a more quality relationship, with love, and the perks of loyalty, fealty,legal reasons, love etc, negotiation must be undertaken, and a legal framework established, protecting all parties. If they want more than a quick lay for quick pay, Put a ring on it.
Not sure what you're getting at? That sex work is the solution?
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