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While we may imagine a dystopian future of thought police, killer robots, and nuclear fallout, the real future predictions are much more boring. Instead of being brutally brainwashed and enslaved by fascist, authoritarian regimes, we have willingly enslaved ourselves. By allowing the top 1% to get exponentially richer, we drown in a sea of debts, tech, advertising, endless wars, environmental destruction, addictions, depression... the list goes on.

Brilliant, isn't it? But it's ok; there's always Facebook to scroll through (Bored Panda too, obvs), Netflix to watch, chemical-laden meals to consume, manufactured outrages over a mermaid's skin color to comment on. Who's got time for thoughtful resistance in this sick, sad world? Even those that think they are resisting by electing bigoted billionaires, bankers and Eton toffs to represent them are simply playing into their hands, as their dishonest, scaremongering claptrap divides us ever further over political, racial and gender lines!

Sometimes we need to take a step back and see the forest for the trees. This list, compiled by Bored Panda, contains some pretty terrifying examples of present-day dystopian society, things that make you realize that beyond all the distractions of trying to survive and thrive in the rat race, something's not quite right with this world.

So if you didn't find the sinister scenes of mindless automatons chanting “send her back” chilling enough, scroll down below to get a reality check on the spookily Orwellian society we are allowing to be constructed, and let's see if we can fix our near future in the comments! If you want to see even more proof of our dystopian world, be sure to check out our previous list!

The term 'boring dystopia was coined by the late academic and cultural theorist Mark Fisher in 2015. He used it to refer to the "bland, mildly coercive signs that abound in late-stage capitalist society, which foster a vague sense of isolation or unease."

He started a Facebook group that documented these signs as a way to develop consciousness about the world around us. "It was understood from the start to be a consciousness-raising exercise, encouraging people to perceive the actual state of Britain rather than the PR state," Fisher said in an interview with Vice. "Which is surprisingly hard, because there's this mixture of Silicon Valley ideology, PR and advertising which distracts us from our own aesthetic poverty, and the reality of what we have. Which is just all these crap robots…"

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"Boring Dystopia was partly about the fact that no one can care about stuff any more," said Fisher. "It's not that they don't care, but in a city like London, or any intensely pressured urban metropolis—add to that the pressures of capitalist cyberspace and people just feel like they perpetually have no time."

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Kathie Leonetti
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Let's not forget the politicians and celebrities who fly all over who have huge SUVs .

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The Facebook group was short-lived, with Fisher quickly becoming disillusioned with Facebook itself. "For me the point at which the group started to go downhill was when it became like every other Facebook group. It was just recirculating 'content' and sending links, keeping people inside what I would call capitalist cyberspace instead of looking outside at their own environment. It felt like it was reinforcing the condition it was intended to displace," he explained.

"It didn't work at that scale, and you could feel that it wasn't the right place for it… It was just an experiment, and Facebook probably wasn't the right platform. I didn't want it to be diluted."

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giovanna
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That is just RIDICULOUS. I really, honestly don't understand how come the American people are not crazy mad in the streets protesting about that. Like, protesting all the time.

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JK Rowling
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They're trying, but most of them are too busy trying to support themselves on seven dollar wages and sacrificing their mental health for college

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Carol Emory
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I've watched Live Rescue on TV only to see people that are all messed up from accidents and/or shot and bleeding refuse an ambulance because of the cost. That's insane when people are more afraid of cost than treatment. This c**p needs to stop. Universal healthcare for all.

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Dave G.
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

universal health care will just result in even poorer healthcare for everyone. i really wish you people actually took some economics classes and fully understood the ramifications of the policies you try to preach without even actually understanding them

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Pamela24
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Reminds me of how people in my country got all angry for having to pay 90 CZK for an ambulance (roughly $5). Wow, I'm surprised more people are moving to the USA for a better life and not out from it... :(

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pebs
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Healthcare in the US is unbelievable. Like if it was the poorest country in the world.

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Dave G.
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

healthcare is actually far worse in some countries that have socialized healthcare like canada for example. healthcare where I was born (in the soviet union) was also horrible and it was a socialist "universal" healthcare system. We didn't even get anesthesia for surgery and it was common for people to die from diseases like the flu. I am very thankful to my family that they literally gave up everything (we came to the US with literally nothing but the clothes on our backs because we had to pay so much money just to come here legally) to come to the united states. The quality of healthcare here compared to socialist countries like the one I was born in (USSR) is incredible. The 3rd world conditions we endured in the USSR are pretty much unheard of in the american healthcare system. Healthcare here in the US is lightyears ahead of probably 75% of the world. Don't take my word for it, though, visit some socialist countries and see how their healthcare is for yourself. Ask locals

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Laugh Fan
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Not entirely true. If you are involved in a road traffic accident you are charged for the ambulance. However, it's usually paid for by the insurance company of the person who caused the collision. I know this as I was hit by a lorry and their insurance paid for my ambulance bill.

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nanashi
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

oh now I understand why I keep hearing more people getting to the hospital with Uber

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Dave G.
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

thankfully because of the competitive spirit of capitalism that is so prominent in American culture we have alternatives like uber to get to places we need to go. sadly people in socialist countries don't enjoy that privilege and often have to wait weeks to receive urgent care. people in canada have literally lost limbs thanks to the long waits for public healthcare due to their crappy "universal healthcare" system that essentially forces them to either wait until they have to have their limbs amputated/die or seek care at a private clinic instead. they're lucky that private clinics still exist as in a purely socialist system that option wouldn't even be available. we have it pretty darn good here in the US all things considered. i would know, i immigrated here from the soviet union in the early 90s and I can tell you from personal experience that it is much much better here. just about anyone from most other countries on earth would tell you the same thing too

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Fairsher
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My heart goes out to those in the US who have to choose between taking their baby/child to the hospital or eating or going bankrupt over a medical bill. I love my Canada for having health care for all and wish the US would just take the leap and do the same.

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Mike
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There are a LOT of Canadians down here in central FL that love the healthcare they get here. It's usually a lot faster than when they're at home.

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Hard 2 Guess
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I got a US $5650.00 bill for a less than a mile long ambulance ride. Thankfully only had to pay $2500.00 because I was admitted. If I wasn't admitted I'd have to pay full amount. They didn't even use WEE YOO WEE YOO WEE YOO.

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BusLady
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I once spent 3 years to pay off one ambulance ride. I had a payment plan.

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Kjorn
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

military in america cost a lot! a lot! after that… no money for education and healthcare

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Jen Love
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In Canada. I was hit by a car.Broke my hand, loads of nerve damage and a concussion to say the least. I received an ambulance, x-rays, MRI, therapy and dr's appointments for months at the hospital. all for $70 bucks.

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Dave G.
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

yeah and you pay like half your income to your government, and most people in your country have to wait so long in a line for urgent care that some of them end up having limbs amputated by the time they're finally seen by a doctor. thanks but ill keep our "crappy" US healthcare. id rather keep my limbs and not spend weeks waiting for care like you do, and then have to give up half my income to the government just to pay for it. you act like we pay more than you when in reality you guys actually probably pay more for healthcare in taxes than we do.

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Kathleen Barlow
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And the most bizarre of all is that I see all over Twitter some Americans hating on socialised health care!! Obviously not the ones that need it though.

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Foxxy
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Whilst we have great healthcare in Australia we have to pay for an Ambulance too whether it be through a private insurer, privately through the ambulance service or pay the bill. It is approx $700-$1500 for an ambulance.

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Christopher Lee
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Not if you are in Queensland - we still have free ambulances and hospital care :)

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RaroaRaroa
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In NZ, St John Ambulance charge around $100 I think. But Wellington, where I live, has Wellington Free Ambulance and it is just that. Free.

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pebs
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As in Europe and even in Russia, when there is an emergency. I' can't believe how US citizens bear this. In Italy is free as well, you pay only when you rent an ambulance, for example when you return fron hospital and you can't go on your own because of health problems. And in a case like that, if you travel within your town, the price is about 40 euros (more or less 40 dollars).

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Koalamonster
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is why nobody wants to have an ambulance called for them. Insurance doesn't even cover all of that.

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NanZ
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am in the US and my husband was on Medicare with stage four pancreatic cancer. He had to go to the hospital and I called the ambulance. The EMT was in my house and my husband desperately needed to use the bathroom and drug himself there with a walker. The EMT said the ambulance would be $1000.00 because he made it to the bathroom using the walker. I said What? and he said since he saw him walk we would have to pay $1000.00 copay. The ambulance was the only way he could possibly have gotten there but that didn't matter. Medicare rule and we paid it. I don't understand why we have this kind of healthcare. Money, that is why!

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Mike
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Unlikely, EMT's don't know about insurance and copays. They don't even ask for your insurance info.

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Johnny
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We hire a lot of H1B's - they are nearly all PhD's or otherwise accomplished in their field, they aren't taking anyone's job away (we hire less now since it's much harder to get a visa, so we opened a European office, so now these highly paid employee are spending their money outside of the USA), and it's fun telling them about our healthcare system "Wait, I'm paying $400/month for this insurance, and I *still* have to pay up to $5000/year in addition!?"

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Ray Ceeya (RayCeeYa)
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

One of my friends just quit the local ambulance service. He was only making $13/hr in a city with over a million people.

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Tambot
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

$13 an hour??? What. INSANE. In the USA? In Canada, Vancouver in particular, paramedics are making anywhere from $22-40 per hour

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JLM
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm Canadian and we pay for an ambulance unless you're basically unconscious. But the fee (at least in Toronto) is like $95.

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Max L.
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

sorry Im italian it is my understanding you're billed if you have no insurance and an hospital can't refuse to take care if you need then they will bill you. Problem is an insurance cost a lot and is not affordable by average payroll workers ? Do I get it right ?

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Tambot
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In Canada ambulances aren't free either, but way more affordable. I think like $80, most of which would be covered under medical insurance after the fact. I don't mind paying a bit, but $500 +.... no way.

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Tina Hugh
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Hey, my trip was “only” $900. Which is $249 less than what I pay for health insurance every month. And I consider myself one of the lucky ones. How did we get to this state?

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Gerry Higgins
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Everyone is outraged but nobody seems to want socialized healthcare.... then pay for it and stop complaining.

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Freya the Wanderer
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Paying for an ambulance ride? [Bleep]ing robbery! This is why we need "socialized" medical care.

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Dave G.
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

freya if you think that's robbery, wait till you hear how "socialized" or "universal" health care works in countries like Finland and Canada. The government literally takes like more than half your income to pay for not just your healthcare, but everybody's healthcare. They probably pay like 5 times more for healthcare in taxes than we do out of pocket.

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pebs
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm really astonished by the way US government treats its citizens.

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Kelly
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is what happens in the USA. The truth in my Country is: ambulance free. Transplants, surgery free. Of course, we pay taxes but it's for the community.

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Bob Beltcher
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yup, my wife fell down 5 stairs while 3 months pregnant. Don't worry, everything was fine. Bill for the ambulance was 1400 after insurance. This is why we need to fix health insurance.

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Layla
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I've read that some epilepsy patients in the US wear bracelets or IDs that say please DON'T call an ambulance because they simply cannot afford to pay $2k every time they have a seizure and someone around calls 911 to try and help. And to think there exist idiots who fight against free healthcare... :(

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Freya Fluharty
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sometimes I feel as though Americans should just stay indoors, lie in bed and do nothing just in case they hurt themselves. Even if they did, there'd still be things out to get them........I don't know. Encase yourselves in Bubblewrap?

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Id row
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It is outrageous, but at least we don't have to wait 8 hours for an ambulance or worry the hospital will starve us to death because no one bothered to feed us for 10 days. Every day I read multiple negligent horror stories about the NHS. But, in all seriousness, yes, our system is completely broken. Only the rich or fortunate can afford healthcare. Our country even fines us for being too poor to afford their useless, over priced government insurance. My husband was fined $1,800 last year for not having enough money for insurance. Great system.

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Alethia Nyx
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In Victoria (Australia, not sure about the other states) it's expensive if you aren't an ambulance Victoria member, but membership is cheap, $50 for a single or $95 for a family.

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Anni
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If you are on a low income and have a Health Care Card it is free.

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Blue Cicada
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

AND... the cost varies by fire department, which hospital you go to, etc. In my small township, residents of the township do NOT pay for ambulance service, but if my out-of-town dinner guest has a medical emergency, he will be billed $1,000+ USD for the 6 miles to an emergency facility or 12 miles to a full hospital.

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Rob Chapman
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yep. I had to call 911 and ended being taken to the hospital. It was a 10 minute ride. I got a bill for $5000

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UncleBu
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah I learned this in a hard way. I paid the hospital the second I got their bill, thought that should include everything. Then two month later the ambiance company called say I need to pay them. And the it costs more cuz it was late. There goes 12 hundreds

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Shannon Richards
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It actually depends on where you live in the United States. In Pennsylvania, our local ambulance paramedics, EMTs and firefighters were volunteers. We paid an annual fee to be part of their system which helped to support them and in turn we got seriously reduced fees for ambulance transportation. I think about $50 per trip. We never needed it, but our money still went to a good cause.

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Georgette Goldie
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

call an ambulance in an emergency in the UK and you will not be charged. on the other hand if you insist in calling an ambulance in a non-emergency you may receive an invoice. won't be $7000

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Zelda Blue
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The reason for this is that there are too many people with no common sense who call an ambulance or visit an emergency room for non emergencies. An ambulance is not your private taxi service to take you to the doctor.

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Just Me
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am from Canada. We have free health care. We pay taxes that cover the cost. You get a health card at birth and you present it every time you go to the doctor or hospital. I used to always wonder when Americans used to say that this hospital was great but that pne was terrible or a charity hospital. Here a hospital is a hospital. Same quality of care. Unless it is a specialist hospital. Like The hospital for Sick Children or a Cancer hospital. I would hate to have to suffer simply because I was poor. I do not understand why Americans are not protesting this.

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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In isrsel we have crazy hight defence budget but despite it we also have an excellent health system which is maintained by mandatory health insurance that almost everybody can afford even if unemployed. How is it possible that the american people don't fight for affordable health care

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Id row
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You forgot the air ambulance. That goes for more than 50 grand.

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Peggy Bereza
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You also have to pay for an ambulance in BC, I’ve done so 3 times in the last 5 years.

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Marika Stanway
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Shall we sell NHS to American multibillion companies then? What say you all? Lets brexit and sell NHS. Great idea! (said absolutely fu****ng nobody EVER)

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Kim Conroy
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

in Australia we can buy a family membership to the ambulance service for $96. full cover, no out of pocket.

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Rolinka Nuse
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Health care in Brazil sucks, but one way or another we have it

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Mike
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I live in the United States of America. Our county doesn't charge ANYBODY for ambulance service.

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Marty BlackEagle-Carl
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

you dont even have to call them. someone else calls them (cops, 911) , they transport you, and you get a bill in the mail. dont get me going on medi-helicopters.

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Sherri Mantooth Bagwell
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Several years ago my son was in a severe car wreck and fractured 3 vertebrae. He was traveling when this happened and was out of state, over 2 hrs from home. When he was ready to be discharged to a rehab facility he had to be transported by ambulance or the rehab place wouldn't accept him. The bill was going to be several thousand dollars to transport. I got on the phone with our insurance and pleaded with the lady to help us. She ok'd it, knowing it would be denied, but that would be after the trip was complete and we could be billed.

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criminalgirl
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Hey you have a president that talks like he's worked hard in a manual labour job all his life, but in truth he has nothing in common with the people who support him, but you nutters are all about the jungles, not interested in common sense, or the truth.

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KT Trondsen
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No matter the cost, if it is a real emergency you call. Being alive is more important than $2000.

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Jeff Requier
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

our Air ambulances are run by donations, american ones are expensive

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Jeff Requier
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Its 800 in CANADA thats with our health care that covers everything else

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Maria Rohlen
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In civilized countries you call an ambulance in case of emergency, not in case you can afford it.

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Klaudia Dziopa
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When instead of wanting to get better you just want to die because it's either that or living in crippling debt for the rest of your life... The land of the free.

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K Miller
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is horrible, I had a car accident 10 years ago and I MAYBE had to pay $50, in Canada

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Maximiliano De Borba
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm uber driver, more than twice I brought people to hospital, even with blood out

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Michal Hershtal
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In Israel, ambulances are only free (covered by national health insurance) if you're admitted to the hospital. Makes sense...they're not meant to be taxis.

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Rachel Walker
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

its similar in australia. depending on what state. in NSW we pay anywhere from $500 upwards

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Lolabean
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

For all those saying they would rather have lower taxes, or that in the UK we have free healthcare but pay higher taxes etc... here's a little comparison of a UK take home salary calculator and a US one. Based on UK Salary of £20,000 after taxes and National Insurance you would take home £17,135.84. In the US, if you earned $20,000 after taxes you would take home $17,486. The difference is minimal. I know what I'd rather.

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Jeff Miller
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My bro had a hospital ER visit a few months ago, stayed about 3 hours. Total bill for insurance was $26,000.

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Daniel Garcia
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In Las Vegas, I had to take an ambulance from a clinic to Valley Hospital 3 blocks away because I was in cardiac arrest, the charge was $1000. They said I was lucky it was so close, because was less than a mile. A year later, a friend was in a serious accident outside of Vegas and required a helicopter flight to Valley. The cost was $30,000.

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Neo Conderson
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Okay so we're going to make the ambulance rides free. How are you going to pay for the ambulance and all the emergency equipment inside? It's not like buying gum, or even an iPhone. How are you going to pay the driver and all the paramedics that ride along? Wait, don't tell me: the taxpayer should pick up the tab. "The rich". Did you know that there isn't enough money IN THE WORLD to make health care for everyone free?

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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It cost money in Canada too if you have no health care coverage from your job. It cost me 250$ in Alberta just to have them come to my house and would have been 500$ if I had had them take me to the hospital. Thankfully I was covered through my job at the time.

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Lona nods
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

yes, that's why some will reconsider calling one because they can't afford the cost.

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D.J. Thorb
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Capitalist greed and exploitation of the most fragile people. Is America Great yet?

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Anet Arteacher
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OK people who have health insurance usually have an ambulance covered under their policies. People who do not, although they would be billed, would probably never pay anyway so the hospital ends up eating the cost which they then end up passing on to the consumer who can pay. This is why we need universal healthcare in the United States so we all actually pay and corporation should pay more since they have now made them selves ‘people’.

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Lisa Chambers
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Well how do the well trained personnel who come scoop up the broken or sick get paid in your country?

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Ashley Paine
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

you have to pay for this in canada too. shockingly, things cost money?

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jevais
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is applied here also in Switzerland. I fell in my 🛁, broke a vertèbre and have to pay 770.00 Swiss Francs. Switzerland is lining up with the Great American way!

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auntyj
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You have to pay for an ambulance in Australia too. Most states have ambulance insurance or subscriptions.

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Cheryl Fontaine
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Exactly why I would never call an ambulance.... I would go bankrupt just paying that bill, let alone the hospital bill....

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Fajar Kurniawan
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4 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When I saw 911 the 80's documentary series (not today TV drama). I tought that's a great public service response system in the US But they have to pay???

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Pamela
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Unless you have ambulance coverage or exemption in Australia, it also costs. The ambulance company send bills. You either pay them or send them to your health fund or return them with your pension number which will exempt you from payment.

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Anna Repp
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yep. Still owe about $500 for an ambulance ride I took like 5 years ago. Was not covered by insurance.

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moeless
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yet ambulances don't drive off and leave you if you can't pay. Amazing.

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danielw
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Just to add clarity (and not defending it, at all) an ambulance only costs money if you take a ride. or a bandaid. This is to prevent 3rd parties from not calling on the fear the individual needing help didn't have insurance. (or, 3rd parties from getting hit with a massive bill because they did the right thing.)

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Jon Payne
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

To be fair many people call ambulances for unnecessary matters, which then drives up the costs. Also cost are high because when someone who is uninsured fails to pay a bill the expenses is passed along to those with insurance.

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Shadow Phillips
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Usually faster to call a taxi or uber than an ambulance anyway tbh

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Tina Smith
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In Canada - the place where everyone thinks health care is "free" (it isn't) - you are charged for using ambulances. In Ontario, it is $45 for emergencies and $240 if they deem it a "non-emergency". Most group benefits (employer provided insurance) cover the cost and people on social assistance are exempt. They get the bill, but take it to their social worker or take proof of social assistance to the hospital and the costs are waived.

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Melanin Mo
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

this is America, where we will treat your illness but dont care about preventing it

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Claes Gustavsson
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In Sweden, it's free. Well, all of us are paying through taxes but we know that when we do have to go by ambulance or get sick in general it won't ruin your life. That we take for granted. Same for everybody. It's quality of life.

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Ana Miranda @ Lisbon, Portugal
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If you don't have the need to be a number, if you eat everyday, if you live well and have plenty of time to travel, just don't go there. You have almost everything. What you need is to look at America as it is nowadays and assume you have to close your month and stop saying "REALLY?????!!!!!" We live in a better place for sure. And I'm sorry for you all that keep dreaming about another USA!

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Chrissa P
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My daughter was hospitalized at a MAJOR hospital. She needed a 3rd surgery and this had to be done at the eye center which we accessed via elevators and basement paths. After the surgery she was not able to be take back through the basement because of the hospital policy since post op she was more fragile and the risk of being stuck in the old elevators...so they called an ambulance to drive us up the driveway. LITERALLY UP A SMALL HILL ON THE SAME PROPERTY. $1400.00. It took 4 times longer to fill out the one form than the ride itself.

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R.s. Potter
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

To be fair, I had to pay for an ambulance the two times one was called for me, and I live in Canada. It wasn't $2000 though, more like $300. Emergency services are not funded by the public health system, they're municipal for the most part.

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Kate
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yup. Had to pay $2000 for the ambulance ride that took me from a car wreck (other car responsible for running a red light) to the ER.

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Shauna Rybolt
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I went to the doc for mild chest pain, they did an EKG and it was abnormal. So they said I needed to go to the hospital downtown, to the ER, where they had everything they needed to help me. I said “okay I’ll head down there” and they said no, an ambulance was going to take me. They wouldn’t let me drive myself. Got into an ambulance, went to the ER, and it ended up they couldn’t say what was wrong with me, only what wasn’t wrong with me. Not a heart attack. Not a stroke. And a lot of people have abnormal EKGs, they said. So I went home. The next week, I got a $4000 hospital bill, and a separate ambulance bill for $1500 (due on receipt). I have insurance through my work, and they wouldn’t cover the ambulance at all.

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Kirsty van Rhyn
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In South Africa we also pay for ambulances and hospitals? Some of us have medical aid (if we can afford it) but savings get depleted quickly and then you have to pay privately anyway.

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William McGivney
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And if you need to be airlifted by helicopter the cost is $30,000 and up

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Adi Das
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Imagine failing suicide cause your full in debt, and after you get better finding out you have a 5000 dollars bill from the ambulance and another 16000 from the hospital...

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Ani-87
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

WTF AMERICA. In Finland if you are signed in the hospital and they need to move you it’s FREE. If you get a heart attack and someone calls an ambulance for you, they take you to the nearest hospital but afterwards you get a fee at home because you need to pay the own risk/deductible which is around 28 dollars, max 35 dollars. Same goes if you call the ambulance yourself. But in many cases it’s totally FREE.

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Eileen Stacey
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That is so crazy.. a lot of people die because of this and again the poor suffer.

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Shira Reinberg
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

These things cost money though. Maintenance, paying salaries of the medical staff ...it'd just be coming out through taxes if it was "free". How do you think it's "free" on other countries? And alot of times in socialized medicine, hospitals and doctors offices are way understaffed, underpaid and they have to see as many peoples possible, so they only have around 10-15 minutes with every patient. And also, when you don't pay, alot of things need to be prioritized to save money. So if you're not gonna die in a few days, you may have to wait up to half a year to get an appointment. Every system has it's pros and cons in my opinion

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Charley CharleyEx
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is outrageous! Elect me President and we'll not only have free ambulances, we'll have free every t hing

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Pretty Pangolin
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I paid $500 for an ambulance because I didn't know it was at least mostly covered by insurance, and it wasn't mentioned on the bill. Sucker!

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lumpy
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What we need is a free market for ambulances. That way you can comparison shop for the the best service at the lowest price as you lie dying from the diabetes you can’t afford to fully treat.

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Tenay Douglas
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When I was dehydrated last summer my mom had to call the ambulance and our insurance covered some but it was still like 833 dollars

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Sean Sommers
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I work in EMS in USA. I have regular conversations with EMS providers from the UK. First: they are allowed to refuse service and transportation if they deem the persons emergency does not require an ambulance. Second: staffing has been a problem in the UK with reports of ambulance responding with only 1 crew member which means no care or evaluation is provided entity's to hospital. Third: due to short staffing and services overwhelming resources at hospitals paramedics are often required to remain with patients on their cots providing care until the hospital accepts them, this is IN the ER, with one paramedic telling me he went in for a shift and brought in one person and remained with them for their 1212 hour shiftentirhoushift.

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Analyn Lahr
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And if your insurance (if you have it) doesn't cover ambulance rides, you're SOL.

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Sean Harrison
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I lived in Nottingham fro 4 years and I loved the NHS. I know it has it's issues, but it's a far, far better system than what we have in the USA. God help the English if American Insurance Providers ever get their hands on the NHS.

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Merilyn Horton
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I wanted to live in the USA until I learned about the cost of health care:

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Amoureuse
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Same. I used to think I'd want to move there but no. I'll be happy paying my taxes and getting reasonable bills if I get sick. If it gets really bad I can even get some financial help.

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Sandra Givens
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Some of us live in areas without professional ambulances, relying on emergency services staffed by volunteers. You don't have to pay them but it's nice if you donate a bit so they don't have to have as many bakesales to pay for life-saving supplies.

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John Bullock
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Magic ambulances are free. Real ambulances staffed with professionals that are properly maintained and operated by trained staff are very expensive. Our dear friends in the UK are clever enough to have found ways to spread the cost. I'm guessing it's through taxes. https://blog.thesalarycalculator.co.uk/paye/tax/comparison-of-uk-and-usa-take-home/

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Vesna
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

After a couple of ER bills like that, we prefer to take Uber now. Classy and a good bloody story for the driver!

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Tacitus86
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is why I'll just die and I don't have to be around you people anymore either. LOL

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Flash Henry
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And this is why I refused to let the EMT's touch me after a head-on collision that almost killed me. I'll take myself to the hospital, thanks. That bill will probably bankrupt me by itself, I don't need the added $1,000 for a 2 minute ride in an ambulance.

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Hiker Chick
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

$1800 for 5 mile ambulance trip, could not refuse because unconscious (non-fatal, just a fainting episode). Still paying 2 years later.

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Hard 2 Guess
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You got lucky. Seems like you got a huge discount. Check my other comment for explanation why I say this.

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Kari Panda
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Just out of curiosity: Does that mean people don’t call an ambulance if they see a car crash or so? Or is it always the victim who pays - which would probably lead to the victim bringing charges to the one who called the ambulance.

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M O'Connell
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4 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It would be the person who was transported via the ambulance is who would pay. Plus in an emergency situation, you would be calling 911 to be connected with an emergency dispatcher who would send emergency services.

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Rosesinmyhair
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In Australia every resident pays a $20 levy on their electricity bill 4 times a year for the Ambulance. That is all we pay.

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Foxxy
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Maybe where you are in Australia. Where I live it can cost around $700-$1500 for an ambulance if you don’t have ambulance cover.

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Michael Reed
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What happens When people who don't live in America, and Americans, find out the ambulance ride costs the same in their country, but Everyone else there working is forced by law to pay for it? There is No Free Lunch, and No Free Ambulance rides either. Truth.

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Michael Reed
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What happens when people who don't live in America find out it costs the same, but everyone else in their country is forced to help pay for it. No Free Lunch & No Free Ambulances either. Truth!

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Marilyn Mele
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That is crazy... that is fake news. Where are you getting these numbers from????? It costs $200 tops . If you don't have insurance they negotiate it down. This is false info.

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Leo H
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is cause noone cared about cost cause insurance paid it all... now noone has insurance..thanks obama..and we realise how fluctuating prices can be

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There are two schools of thought here: Ambulances cost money, so pay up. Or: It should be free so make someone else pay for it. Welcome to being an adult.

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Actually...there are many countries that charge. Sometimes I think they should charge and then it be reimbursed IF it was a general emergency. Far too many people in the UK use them as taxi rides :-(.

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Kari Panda
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As someone coming from a poor family, no, please not! The other way around would be fine - charging later if there was no actual medical issue. But we have that reimbursement thing for medical bills of jobless people here, and it lead to many people suffering because they couldn‘t afford to go to the doctor and receive a refund months later.

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There is one thing we can do: Get out and vote. Vote for the senators and representatives who aren't afraid to push for single-payer, universal health care. And if someone calls you a socialist, tell them to look at Japan, which a) is hardly socialist, b) has the world's longest life expectancy, and c) has a well-established universal health care system.

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