To succeed in this competitive world, you gotta make smart choices early in your career. Or at least we are taught that from an early age. So no wonder that most of us have compared ourselves with others at some point in our lives.

According to a recent study, more than 75% of people reported feeling envious of someone in the last year. But what if some career paths don’t even deserve that painfully nagging feel?

To shed light on how we glamorize particular professions and demonize others, people are busting careers that are “actually a complete nightmare” in this r/AskReddit thread. Let’s read on and let us know whether you agree with them in the comments!

#1

People Share What Careers Look Glamorous From The Outside But End Up Being A Nightmare (30 Pics) Veterinarian.

Insanely competitive schooling that crippled you with debt, with a depressing debt:income ratio after graduation.

Most of your patients don’t like you, and most of the owners think you’re getting rich upselling them unnecessary services when their dogs’s exploding eyeball cancer can be cured with raw organic exotic meats/cbd/coconut oil, but you’re withholding that information because you’re in bed with Big Kibble.

High stress, stagnant wages, long hours, [poor] holiday leave. Rampant depression. Lost count of how many colleagues have committed suicide. Sometimes tempted to join them.

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Chucky Cheezburger
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2 months ago

Hey,just wanna say thank you for taking care of the critters, good boys and girls and street cats of all kinds. I cant donwhat you do or know what you know. Without you to take care of our furry friends, our lives wouldnt be a lighter shade of darkness.

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#2

People Share What Careers Look Glamorous From The Outside But End Up Being A Nightmare (30 Pics) Law Enforcement.

I went into it with the naive belief I would be making a difference. I wanted to protect people and make my community safer. Instead, I got to see the worst humanity has to offer day in and day out. Lets see if I can list all the negatives:

Most departments are filled with arrogant a-holes with inflated ego's that love to condescend to other officers or the public when they themselves can barley read.

Many officers have severe anger issues and love to take it out on the public (never saw it happen physically but verbally or by issuing ever ticket possible).

Try to suggest changes to bring about better relations with the public? Prepare to be ostracized and bullied till you tow the line.

The overall level of incompetence is staggering, with some officers barely knowledgeable of the firearms they carry everyday.

Your view of the public and people in general becomes very dark. The amount of EDP's (emotionally disturbed persons), druggies and alcoholics you deal with each day is ridiculous and you start to wonder how society hasn't collapsed.

You arrest a violent offender just to see them quickly released over and over, whats worse is how many times an abuse victim files a complaint because you arrested their "love" despite almost being killed.

Very few people are actually grateful when you cut them a break. They DO take it as a sign of weakness and try to push the envelope. This is an often overlooked reason why some officers become a-holes. You try to help people out and they spit in your face (sometimes literally), this gradually tears you down until you can barely recognize what you are becoming.

The uniform is a target. You can be the nicest most patient officer in the world but to many the uniform means you are the enemy. You will get cursed at, attacked and have your private life laid bare.

Low pay not even remotely commensurate with what you have to deal with.

There is sooo much more but I was lucky enough to get out and change careers before it all really got to me.

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Angelica Del Carmen
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2 months ago

Ugh, what a shame. I feel bad for them and their families.

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#3

People Share What Careers Look Glamorous From The Outside But End Up Being A Nightmare (30 Pics) Ballet dancer

Parents spend tens of thousands (or more) on training. They give up their entire teen years and schooling (most elite ballet dancers are homeschooled and a large percentage move away from home for training in high school).

Most dancers you see on stage in a ballet are paying to be there. The bottom rungs of ballet companies are pay to play. Then when you have paid to dance a few years you might be able to get a position that pays you with a dozen pairs of pointe shoes and a stipend for performances. Then maybe you'll be promoted to the bottom level where you get paid 20K a year and have no health insurance. All while putting your body through major torture.

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Marc
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2 months ago

"All while putting your body through major torture." That's one of the biggest problems for me. I once knew a professional ballet dancer. She had the body of a pensioner at about 30, to put it a bit exaggerated. Professional dancers in general torture their bodies, and ballet dancers even more so. That should always be made clear to parents and young dancers. Those who want to do this as a profession don't really do it for long. The body suffers enormously from the excessive strain.

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When you find yourself constantly comparing your career to others, you may succumb to painful sensations of envy, allowing someone else's accomplishments to make you feel inferior. And according to a recent study, more than 75% of people reported feeling envious of someone in the last year.

So to find out more about this often overwhelming feeling, Bored Panda reached out to Dawn Moss, the founder of “Your Interview Coach” who has been helping both candidates and hiring managers through the recruitment and selection process since 2013.

Dawn said that career envy can happen to a lot of people and for various reasons. “Career envy can happen when individuals aren't doing very well in their own career. Often there's a perception that others are doing much better than them and there's some jealousy.”

#4

People Share What Careers Look Glamorous From The Outside But End Up Being A Nightmare (30 Pics) I don't know if nightmare is the word, but my wife has finally reached her lifelong goal of becoming a zookeeper at one of the top zoos in the US. She is very happy to have the opportunity to hand food to otters, have reindeer eat out of her hand, and brush okapi. However, she took on tens of thousands of dollars in student loans and did months of unpaid work at the zoo to get the job, which is seasonal, requiring she be off 2 months a year. She gets up at 4 AM and does farmhand style physical labor for 8 hours a day for about $9 an hour with no benefits. I am thrilled that she reached her goal, and I am happy that she is happy, but I am pretty disenfranchised with the whole thing.

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Ozacoter
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2 months ago

I agree. Being a caregiver is an amazing job but extremely difficult as well. Most job positions are unpaid and sometimes they even ask masters or long experience to be an unpaid intern. Even if you get paid the salary is extremely low. You can get all kinds of infections (i worked with animals with diseases that could kill me) and you break your body lifting sacks, digging soil etc. All to become 40 and be unable to keep doing the job because you are too broken.

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#5

People Share What Careers Look Glamorous From The Outside But End Up Being A Nightmare (30 Pics) Chef.

Long hours, sh**ty environment, nothing is ever good enough.

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Swamparella McJudgeface
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2 months ago

And so hard on the body. Standing for ten hours straight for days on end takes a toll.

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#6

People Share What Careers Look Glamorous From The Outside But End Up Being A Nightmare (30 Pics) Teaching for sure. I mean, people know it sucks, but still the idea of becoming a teacher and changing the lives of children simply by caring enough exists in a lot of people and sadly it's just not like that. The very sad truth is it doesn't matter how much you care, there are so many people who just want to make your job near impossible and people drop out of the position left and right.

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Marc
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2 months ago

As with all professions in the social sector, teachers are paid far too little for the job to be attractive in any way. Unfortunately, we would rather pay millions to some CEO or banker than properly pay the professions that really contribute to our society and social interaction. Many teachers enter this profession with idealism until they are crushed by the system, parents, students and framework conditions. In doubt, it is one of the most thankless professions of all, with only a few bright spots. And we parents also have enormously high expectations of these teachers. I'd like to see us if we had to do this job for the money.... I have great respect for anyone who still wants to do the job. But we shouldn't be surprised if more and more people end up in this profession to whom we would otherwise not entrust our children. Because who still wants to do this job? Apart from idealists or unsuitable people?

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In other instances, it can also happen to career ambitious individuals, Dawn said. “Although these people are likely to admire and aspire to be like those with successful careers. It will drive them forward and they are likely to put a plan into action,” the career consultant explained.

“Career ambitious individuals will strive to be better and spend time networking with those they admire. Others will avoid the successful people and miss out on opportunities and the outcome will be a self-fulfilling prophecy.”

Having said that, Dawn added that hanging around successful people will impact positively on your career. “You'll naturally up your game and want to gain their admiration too. These people with successful careers can be coaches and mentors and it's wise to network internally. If you want to be truly successful, then hang around with successful people. You'll learn so much about navigating complex work politics and environments. You'll learn how to build relationships and negotiate.”

#7

People Share What Careers Look Glamorous From The Outside But End Up Being A Nightmare (30 Pics) The video game industry. A lot of kids and teens want in it so bad because “I grew up playing games blah blah blah they take me to another world blah blah blah.” Then you become an adult and learn that it’s all math and physics, and making a video game has NOTHING to do with what you experienced growing up. It’s all black screens of code, polygons, and being criticized for your work.

What’s worse, if you make games you probably never have the time to play them anymore. The gaming industry is notorious for implementing 60-80 hour work weeks.

EVEN WORSE depending on what company you work for, you may never have stable work. You finish a project and then the company tells you “we don’t have another project for your particular skill set.” Then you gotta look for more work.

AND IF ALL THAT WASNT BAD ENOUGH, you’ll probably never work on a game you want to work on. All those big, fancy games and indie darling on Steam are a very small fraction of what exists. Barbie’s Horse Adventure? Those people got degrees and we’re inspired by the same games as you. Crappy Candy Crush knock-offs? Same degree and inspiration. Stupid table-top games that you only see in the family section at Walmart? Those also utilize game designers/programmers.

Don’t get into videogames because you like videogames. Get into videogames because you’re passionate about math and science.

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Marc
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2 months ago

I worked in the games industry for almost 15 years after graduating, and still do some of it, but then as a freelancer. Personally, I would advise anyone not to go down this path. Many young people romanticise this profession because they compare it to playing games. But one has nothing to do with the other. If you develop games, you don't play them. As a rule, they don't even see them. There is also no room for their own ideas. That is decided a few pay grades above. Most game developers basically do contract work and they only see a small part of the game, never the whole product. It's often a bit like assembly line work, with enormous personal and time pressure. Honestly, there are so many better professions where you can either work creatively or also as a developer and programmer. Most people don't stay long in the games industry because no one does it for long.

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#8

People Share What Careers Look Glamorous From The Outside But End Up Being A Nightmare (30 Pics) Medicine, a close friend is a doctor, he doesn't have a life.

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Otter
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2 months ago

Since COVID hit, nobody in healthcare has had a life. People spent a year avoiding physical contact with loved ones, like spouses dividing houses in half to avoid contact. It's been that bad.

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#9

People Share What Careers Look Glamorous From The Outside But End Up Being A Nightmare (30 Pics) Modeling, too competitive and not enough food.

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Marc
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2 months ago

It may sound mean, but I have always considered modelling to be one of the most unnecessary and meaningless professions there is. Something is made to look like what it isn't in order to sell something that no one needs, and in the process generations of women, especially young women, are given a false sense of body image that no one or hardly anyone can live up to. Ultimately, this is an industry that exists only for self-preservation and that no one would miss. But maybe it's just me.

Amy Dodds
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2 months ago

It's basically being a human coat hanger

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Otter
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2 months ago

With bonus sexual harrassment.

Butternut DerpFarts
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2 months ago

I’m just over 110 at 17 and I’m healthy ( my doctor says that’s the perfect weight for me) and I bet if I tried modeling ( I never will) they would say ur too hefty loose weight

Mazer
Community Member
2 months ago

Probably one of the hardest and most dysfunctional field of work you can get into

222T111
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2 months ago

I sit for artist, as a side gig, which is different from modeling, in a sense. I’m a very small person simply due to DNA. I eat a lot. However, we are all put in the same box. People telling us to eat more. I eat 3 meals a day and snack all day. I can’t control my metabolism. I almost quit because people of people’s comments about my body. It’s like they get off on ripping us apart. It’s the opposite of fat shaming and equally as painful. I still do it because I love art. The artist that employ me are amazing. Not all of us starve ourselves, are photoshopped, vain or stupid. Some of us do it bc our other jobs (Vet field🤦🏻‍♀️) don’t pay all our bills. Not all models model clothes and are “human coat hangers”. However, the “human coat hanger” comment is a great concept for an artist exhibit. Thanks for the idea. We get no respect. (See below comments) I have never been sexually harassed on a job. Only when I go out. We are humans too with feelings. Stop body shaming all sizes!!! ✌🏽

Carmen Sandiego
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2 months ago

Skinny shaming? I agree, it's just as hurtful. I think they mean human coat hanger as in that's what (most of) their employers see them as. Body shaming does more harm than good, and I completely agree with everything on your comment.

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Pantea
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2 months ago

I liked it when I used to be a model. Do it just as a side job, for example as a student. Don't be fooled by the glamour you see on TV. Don't aime for a carriere as a top model. Don't ruin your health with diets. Take jobs your agency finds where they want you as you already look. Work for small fashion shows, cheap catalogues, ads and stock photos. You make lots of money doing easy jobs and have a lot more time to learn for the uni, compared to wating tables and such. In the 90s, I made enogh money in few hours on 2-3 days a week to pay rent and bills. Plus it was fun, mostly :)

kjorn
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2 months ago

and you must be really really thin at first. must be genetic!

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When asked how to stop comparing yourself to others, Dawn said it’s less easy. What it takes is an understanding that “What makes one person successful and others not.” “When you compare yourself to others and feel disappointed with your own performance or progression, then this will be less than helpful and will impact choices and decisions.”

On the other hand, she said that a little bit of competition is healthy since it will drive performance and productivity, which in turn increases profitability. “It's all about mindset and attitude and how you frame this situation that will either help or hinder someone's career.”

#10

People Share What Careers Look Glamorous From The Outside But End Up Being A Nightmare (30 Pics) Film crew.

Yes, you sometimes meet famous people. Sometimes they're cool, often they're really not. The days are 14+ hours of work with a commute of who knows how long on either end, depending where you're shooting. You have half an hour for lunch. Coffee breaks are whenever you're not needed on set, so depending on your job (I was in camera, and we rarely had a down moment), it could be almost never. More often than not, someone on set is yelling. People lose their minds over making really [poor] entertainment. You start work by 7am on Monday, and by Friday you're coming in at 4pm and leaving when the sun comes up on Saturday. There are no paid holidays, no paid sick days, no paid vacation. If you don't work enough qualifying hours, the union kicks your healthcare.

And this is if you're IN a union. Non-union, much worse. Sexual harassment is through the roof, but the kids who get it the worst are afraid to say anything or they'll lose their jobs. I have been told some real horror stories about famous actors, some of whom I still haven't seen get outed by the Me Too movement. And I'm not talking word-of-mouth, second-hand stories. I'm talking about young women who whisper to each other what shows to avoid and make them swear to never use their name because if they want to work in this industry, they can't be known as a troublemaker.

I watched so many co-workers fall into addictions, lose family, miss their children's lives, over the dumbest TV shows in the world. If you go union, the money can be good, but it's not worth it. It's just not worth it.

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Monster
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2 months ago

So sad hundreds of people work there and kids are growing up missing their dads or moms(((

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#11

People Share What Careers Look Glamorous From The Outside But End Up Being A Nightmare (30 Pics) Political staffer. Most jobs in politics pay very little money and require you to work 80+ hours a week for a boss who is guaranteed to have a gigantic ego. You also have to look for a new job after every election day.

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Elsb3t
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2 months ago

I worked as a political assistant in the Netherlands. Best job ever. Terrible working hours, but never a dull moment and an incredible team spirit. Still in contact with some former colleagues after more than ten years.

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#12

People Share What Careers Look Glamorous From The Outside But End Up Being A Nightmare (30 Pics) Being an artist. People think it's just fun drawing time in art class, but it is so stressful. Especially if it's a job you do. When I get commissions I spend hours just THINKING of the idea. I start sketching it, person (usually a non artist, artists are usually more gentle about it or don't mind) says it's not how they wanted it. Redo the sketch. HOPEFULLY it's okay now. Do the 2 hour line art. They say "Oh, this is wrong, this is too big, wtf is that, etc." After spending another 1-2 hours fixing it, you color it in. There's usually no problem with that unless it's an artist with a color pallet you're not used to. When you're done you send them to picture and hopefully they paid you while you were drawing because there's a lot of people who just make excuses. Also, if you're a small artist, you probably under charged that commission. That drawing you slaved over for 5 days... the person was only willing to 15 dollars and you'll take anything because everyone loves to ask for free stuff

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Marc
Community Member
2 months ago

I work in a very similar environment. As a UI/UX designer, but often also on commission or as a freelancer. I experience the same pressure and even after more than 20 years in this profession, you can never completely shake it off. Experience helps a little, but it's still often enough a very nerve-wracking back and forth. What helped me in the end was to have long preliminary talks. The more detailed I know what the client wants, the more likely I am to come close to these expectations. You often meet clients who don't know what they want. Or they say that you should just create something. That goes wrong in 99% of cases. Consulting can be very time-consuming, but it pays off in the end if you know exactly what you are working towards and that you are implementing the client's vision. Yes, that limits the actual creative process, especially with painters or the like, but commissioned work often leaves only limited room for your own creativity. I learned it the hard way.

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#13

People Share What Careers Look Glamorous From The Outside But End Up Being A Nightmare (30 Pics) My SO is an attorney and isn't loving life right now. She says "You know how you did term papers in college? Well I do term papers every day, all day, endlessly."

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Julie C Rose
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2 months ago (edited)

As someone who once literally translated a report about paint drying, writing term papers for a living isn’t necessarily bad if you’re into that kind of thing.

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#14

DO. NOT. WORK. FOR. TELEVISION NEWS.

Unless you like being underpaid, over-worked, unappreciated, actively bullied, over exposed to the depths of human depravity, on the clock 24/7 and ready to be completely disillusioned with the world and the monsters called people living on it.

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Mohammad Ammar
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2 months ago

I always think this when I watched the news. They switch from cherry blossom season in Japan to the death of 50 children in Yemen, like it's nothing.

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#15

People Share What Careers Look Glamorous From The Outside But End Up Being A Nightmare (30 Pics) Behavioral health. I spent a long time working towards a career in therapy, and I’ve noticed that a lot of new people/people looking to get into the field go in with the starry-eyed “I want to help people” mentality. I did, too.

You do help people, but it is [freaking] hard to help people. A lot of jobs are high stress/low pay type of deals, because a lot of the jobs available are through nonprofits that only have so much funding to go around. You are vicariously exposed to other people’s trauma, and it does affect you, no matter how good you are at creating boundaries and practicing self care. It’s an admirable profession, but a grossly under appreciated one, and it most certainly isn’t for everyone who wants to “help people” for a living.

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Linziaj
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2 months ago

Would never have thought of that as a glamourise job anyway !!!

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#16

People Share What Careers Look Glamorous From The Outside But End Up Being A Nightmare (30 Pics) I'm a professional, full-time voice actor. I'm blessed to be successful and happy, but about 99% of the voice actors I know are depressed most of the time, struggling hard to find work, wrestling with impostor syndrome, questioning if they should give up, and barely able to make rent. Particularly videogame/anime/animation actors.

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H Edwards
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2 months ago

Most animated movies used to be voiced by professional voice actors. Now they get the big names in to voice most of the characters, and the professionals are out of work. It's sad.

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#17

People Share What Careers Look Glamorous From The Outside But End Up Being A Nightmare (30 Pics) Farming on a large scale. I was living in debt up to my ass ($500k-$1 mil depending on the time of year), haggling for every input (land, fertilizer, seed, equipment), at the mercy of the weather, and got to watch the commodity markets kick me in the nuts every business day. The real cherry on top was everyone thinking you are trying to kill them with GMOs and copious amounts of chemicals that we dont use. Not to mention farms are passed down through generations so you've got a bunch of dead and living ancestors watching your every move. Oh and a lot of farmers work a second full time job for the health insurance. There's a reason farm suicides are high and farm "accidents" and accidents are higher.

There's a million young rural FFA kids that would give there left leg for a chance to farm.

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Patti Vance
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2 months ago

yes, all to this. but, when it comes to the GMOs, most people don't understand that they have been eating genetically engineered food for decades as most of your food you are seeing to day do not look anything like it started out before farming started to get standardized in regards to size, color, etc.

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#18

People Share What Careers Look Glamorous From The Outside But End Up Being A Nightmare (30 Pics) TATTOOIST... it's crazy hours, no hourly rate, if no one comes in to get tattooed you don't get paid that day, you often spend more time drawing for tattoos than actually drawing and more often than not your doing that at home. There's so much more BS than anyone thinks.

I don't know why anyone thinks it's glamorous I know I certainly don't.

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InfectedVoice
Community Member
2 months ago

Dude, my artist earns £90 an hour and lives an extremely comfortable life, he loves art and never gets sick of coming up with designs and pieces for people, you can hear and see the enthusiasm when he is talking about it, this is someone who shouldn't have been a tattoo artist.

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#19

People Share What Careers Look Glamorous From The Outside But End Up Being A Nightmare (30 Pics) Architect is really bad. Most people don’t complete it and the mental health issues are quite serious. There’s a lot of criticism and stress in the beginning, lots of late nights and hard work. At the end of the work you get insulted in public.

There’s no real reason for this. You aren’t going to be saving lives or anything, there’s no need to make it so expensive either.

So three years later, you get a degree and have to do a year of intern work, then it’s time for another year of study and projects and exams. Then two years of minimum wage work.

Then you come back for more exams, essays and projects.

It’s really too hard for what it is. I get paid very badly and I don’t really use any of my training. It was pointless really but girls like it at parties when I say I’m an architect. That’s a lie I don’t go to parties I

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Dave P
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2 months ago

and 40% are unemployed or employed in other fields because way more degrees to the number of jobs in the field. I mean took at Netanyahu in Israel, he had a MIT architects degree and a masters and he had to settle for becoming a politician.

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#20

People Share What Careers Look Glamorous From The Outside But End Up Being A Nightmare (30 Pics) Idk if military is glamorized, but I saw a bunch of people who joined cause they wanted to be badasses and they couldn't wait to get out. Long hours, sometimes dangerous work, mind-numbingly repetitive tasks, being stuck with a-hole bosses at times (not like you can just quit), not the best pay, etc. Add it all up and you get a large portion of people who do one enlistment and never come back.

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Samantha Lomb
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2 months ago (edited)

In the US its seen as a ticket out of poverty for a lot of kids. The only way they can go to college is potentially be shot at. Makes it pretty clear inequity is part of the system design not a bug

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#21

Acting.

There's no sure-fire way into the business. You can just have natural ability and take direction well, audition, and nail the role. You can follow a fine arts degree in theatre and acting and hone your skills which may help in the audition process, and further. Even at that, you've got to grind and grind and grind until you get noticed...if you ever get noticed.

If you end up being a star, you can expect a career of destroying your body. Want that latest role? Gain 30 lbs. Want the next one? Lose 50. If you're a woman, expect to have to maintain your figure through your relatively shorter career, and that doesn't mean an "average" figure. For an extreme example, Christian Bale lost 63 lbs for his role in The Machinist, eating an apple and a can of tuna a day, then had to bounce back and gain weight for Batman Begins.

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Mohammad Ammar
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2 months ago

To be honest some actors choose to be extra for their role, like the examples given.However even simple movies like those in the MCU are now setting unrealistic body standards for actors who've signed on as well as for their viewers who largely fall in the impressionable teen-young adult age range.

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#22

People Share What Careers Look Glamorous From The Outside But End Up Being A Nightmare (30 Pics) Radio announcer. Like a lot of other jobs in the entertainment industry, it’s full time work for part time pay. Second jobs are common. Your pizza delivery guy just may be your favourite morning show host! At least, that’s how the morning guy at my station made ends meet, until he was laid off in the last round of cutbacks.

Now we’re a “hybrid station,” which is the preferred business model these days. That’s a fancy way of saying one person does everything while you run a ton of syndicated programs. 12 hour days of minimum wage.

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A.J Milne
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2 months ago

Unless you own that radio station

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#23

Opera singing.

The famous Maria Callas said if she could do it all over again, she wouldn’t.

Takes countless years, hundreds of thousands of dollars, hard to hold a day job due to rehearsals, bouncing from place to place to place, people in music don’t always consider you to be a musician, people with “regular jobs” constantly asking you what you’re “real career” is, or they do the polar opposite and think you’re some famous diva when in fact you aren’t. Incredibly difficult to keep long term relationships due to the constant travel, you literally pay hundreds of dollars for job interviews (since that’s what auditions are), you perform most holidays since Christmas and Easter are the prime biblical times which = lots of singing and NYE means operetta or “A Salute to Vienna” where you sing Johann Strauss Jr all night. It’s rarely fur shall’s and champagne, and you work in the evenings and sleep in the day. It makes it difficult if you have a family, especially a young family because you have to decide if you work on Christmas to help pay for things or you stay home to open presents.

It’s a string of tough decisions. It’s taxing and a lot of people take breaks. It’s truly a passion that drives you forward because it’s hard and thankless and less and less people support it. You really gotta love what you do.

Opera is the meeting of all the art forms, music, visual art, dance, literature, and acting. Please give it a shot before dismissing it. Please support the arts.

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Ines Olabarria-Smith
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2 months ago

True! Don’t forget living in a continuous exam, being always judged, pressure for finding an agent that really believes in you…. But the stage is everything!

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#24

This is kind of niche but, scuba dive instructor. I did it for 3ish years, I can't begin to tell you how many times people wished they had my job.

A decent portion of the job was selling. I hate forcing people to buy things, but I had to have a certain percentage of people buy a mask, at least. The mask was about 25% of the cost of an open water course. Chances are they'd never use it again.

Dive shop politics are insane. I worked 6.5 days a week for 90% of the year. If I turned down a course, I wouldn't be given another until there were no other instructors available. If there were no courses going on, I still had to be in the shop incase someone came in. During slow times there would be 7 or 8 instructors hanging around doing nothing. We all lived less than 5 minutes away. My dive shop would only hire people who were attractive enough. They'd also refuse to hire people who had trained at certain other dive schools in the area. The owners would go out of their way to be charming to the customers and then take the piss out of them as soon as the were out the door.

The amount of responsibility is huge, and nobody even thinks about it until you point it out. You're taking 4 people into a deadly environment and have to bring them back in the same state they went into it in. If something goes wrong you can lose your license or go to jail. Where I was working, these were pretty exclusively early to mid 20 year olds. Not only that, but if someone you trained has an incident at a later date, you can also be investigated and possibly prosecuted.

I was diving in 30C (86f) water. I constantly had an infection. Could be from a small cut, or my ears or my throat. It was constant.

Long, very hard work days. 12 hour days were about the norm. I'd teach, be dragging around the tanks I was responsible for weighing 20kg each as well as tonnes of other gear, and putting on my 'be happy around the customer face' whilst keeping them from dying. It's like a combo of retail and warehouse work.

It also diluted my love of diving. Even when diving with professionals now I have a hard time not constantly being on alert, waiting for someone to do something stupid, rather than enjoying the dive.

Pay is [really bad].

It's an amazing job, but it turned my hair grey by 25.

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Nevits Yibble
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2 months ago (edited)

This is so accurate. I did it for a few years part-time. Other things to add: dealing with asshole parents of child divers (kids themselves were a blast though. SO much fun), fighting/arguing couples attending together (usually one made the other sign up), panicky students who hysterically freak out during ocean dives (your other job is therapist), and the absolute worst: the macho, "extreme sport" morons who ignore your instruction (every. single. class.). Our shop also routinely overbooked classes to pack as many paying customers as possible - minus the extra divemaster support required. Leaving me too many divers to keep track of, which was dangerous.

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People Share What Careers Look Glamorous From The Outside But End Up Being A Nightmare (30 Pics) Fashion designer You won’t even get a job if you are willing to work for free

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Sergy Yeltsen
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2 months ago

The requirements for a fashion designer are difficult: you have to totally hate women, for a start, and insist they have bodies of 10 year old boys to even look good in what you create...

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Nonprofit sector.

You’re mostly putting a bandaid on issues. You go into it wanting to help people, but far too many people are ungrateful, not willing to help them selves, or complain no matter how much you’re trying. I cannot tell you how many people have made threats even when you’ve gone well above and beyond for them. So many people abuse the system for freebies. I had people come in trying to get freebies who make over 100k a year.

The pay is always [poorly] unless you’re at the executive level. It is ridiculous how much executives make compared to the workers doing 90% of the work. The CEO of my organization makes well into the six figures while we have to work 3 years to get a 3% raise on our low salary. They also devalue you constantly. You have people with master’s degrees working entry level positions being bossed around by some old lady with zero education but who’s friends with the CFO or something.

You’re constantly working with a ramen noodle budget expected to come out with steak and lobster results. 9/10 volunteers are only there because they’re trying to get hours or a reference and complain a lot.

You’re constantly battling other nonprofits even if you’re just trying to share resources. You can do completely different things and are just trying to refer clients back and forth so they can acess all available resources, but they’ll guard their clients like gold.

The amount of shady practices that occur as well... Inflation of numbers, total lies, etc... it is really sad how many places do nothing or very minimal, but are galmorized as “doing good”.

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ProfessionalTimeWaster
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2 months ago

Most non-profit companies' management exploit the enthusiasm and hard work of young people who genuinely want to make the world a better place. On the other hand, management make a lot of money for very little work. Not to mention, most non-profits are shady and opaque about their expenditure. Donors may think they are sponsoring school education for a little girl in 3rd world country, that will change her world....but in reality they may be sponsoring religious conversions....or worse, spread unrest and terrorism in that country.

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People Share What Careers Look Glamorous From The Outside But End Up Being A Nightmare (30 Pics) Pro Wrestling.

Like a small chance of making not only WWE but any other company in general

And injuries and travel. Some people are forced to retire young

Even if you never been in the independent scene WWE has an infamous schedule and travel time.

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John L
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2 months ago

Not to mention, very few make it into their 50's and 60's because of all the damage, they've done to their bodies.

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#28

i like all the pushes to get people into stem fields specifically science. they do all those demonstrations that make smoke or foam appear and make color changes, they are like LOOK SCIENCE IS FUNSIES, when in reality its the most grueling repetitive high stress miserable work you can get plus countless industries just contract out the positions so you aren't even guaranteed benefits plus any business is first and foremost a business so you have to spend countless hours in board room meetings explaining science and why things won't work to people who think the disc drive on their computer is a drink holder

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Vera
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2 months ago

That's just not true. Most of my friends including myself work in STEM. It is mostly fun intellectually stimulating work, with great pay and benefits. From academia to IT companies, absolutely the best career choice, especially for people from humble backgrounds. If your family is not wealthy and doesn't have good connections, just study as much maths as you can from as early age as possible.

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#29

For all of you smart kids with advanced degree of from Top 50 colleges , don't go into consulting. You can do better. Find a line of work that is not as soul-sucking, and energy-draining. Those frequent flyer miles and free hotels, wining and dining in glamorous suits are just a smokescreen, to cover up the misery from constant travelling, networking, guaranteed overtime and no weekends are not worth it.

Many people do it as a stepping stone to a real career, which is smart. Staying in consultancy for 5+ years will likely turn your life upside down.

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Death Metal Kitty
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2 months ago

Can confirm. It's crazy, also the worse part is that it's hard to leave the industry. Few people have the specific skill sets of a consultant, and when you apply to any other role, the company decides that they can't let you go there because few other people have the skill sets you have. I'm not even in a top consultancy or from a top university, but goddamn it is as hard getting out as it is getting in.

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Scientific research

First you bust your ass in undergrad to get accepted to a good grad school. If you're like me and did biology, that means you're going to be taking the same classes and stressing out about a lot of the same stuff as pre-meds. Then you go to grad school which lasts on average 5-8 years (in the sciences). That's most or all of your 20s spent making ~$26k/year on a student stipend. But hey, at least school is free.

Then after you graduate you've got your PhD and can go work, right? Not really. If you're extremely "should play the lotto" lucky, then yes, you'll get a coveted research job. If you're like the vast majority of people, however, you'll be forced to get a post-doc position. That's where you work under a professor in a lab (just like you always have) and get paid a whopping ~$40k/year. They also last for only 1-2 years, and once it's up it's time to try to get a real career job again, or, more likely, apply for yet another post-doc. People can be stuck post-doc'ing for 10+ years.

This is the first real piece of the nightmare. Turns out twice as many PhDs graduate every year than there are jobs available for them in the sciences. That means there's a ton of competition all vying for the same tiny handful of professorships. "What about industry?" you say. Industry has even fewer openings and is a pipe-dream for most since they only want practical experience and skills. You're also still working under someone, unlike being a professor where you're free to explore any interest you want (kind of). So most people go for being a professor, where the average opening gets 200-300 extremely well qualified candidates.

But maybe you get lucky and get your job as an assistant professor (entry level). You're now making ~$60k/year, and you better bust your ass getting tenure because if you don't meet your tenure requirements by the time you have your tenure hearing (after about 5-7 years at most places) you're fired. And the problem with that is, a typical part of tenure requirements is getting one to two R01 grants (the grant name is only relevant for biology, I have no clue what the physics/chemistry/etc. equivalents are). The R01 is a big grant, considered to be the bread and butter grant for research...too bad it's funding rate is around 10%. Go to a scientific conference and chat with people and I guarantee you will have no problem at all finding scientists with stories of applying for that grant for years with no success.

Now lets say you do miraculously make it past that hurdle and get bumped up to associate professor. Now you're making ~$75k/year and things are smoother sailing. Think you can stop worrying about grants? HA! Even if you work at a university that still has real tenure (i.e., can't be fired) they probably have a clause in there about you funding your own salary through grant money. So no grants = no salary. Even better, as you have your own lab, you're also the person funding your workers' salaries. So if you lose too much grant money, you have to fire everyone. This happens all of the time, even to great labs.

Finally, if you've had a successful career, then around the time you're in your 50s or 60s you'll get promoted to full professor, where you will finally make ~$100k/year.

It's worth noting that scientists' work lives are stressful. Working weekends and holidays is common. Working late is very common. You screw up one detail in an experiment and you may have just thrown away months of work. You are constantly stressing out if you'll reach the next goal or not. "Will I get into grad school?", "will I finish grad school?", "will I ever get a professorship?", "will I ever get grant money?", etc. You get exposed to dangerous stuff like radiation, biohazards, chemical hazards, carcinogens, hell, I've even been in rooms that had magnet hazard signs up.

Don't do science kids.

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Ozacoter
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2 months ago

Yeah. Also a lot of old teachers and researchers are extremely arrogant and toxic. Like using the work of their unpaid interns to publish papers themselves, making them compete to have your name on the paper or straight refusing to teach them anything.

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