Babysitter Storms Off After Client Calls Her “Expensive” For Charging While Their Baby Sleeps
Recently, a story from a 22-year-old woman who works as a babysitter for a family went viral on the AITA subreddit. “I get paid 20 dollars an hour, I’m an EMT-Basic and speak Spanish,” she wrote.
The woman explained that the father of the family she works for started complaining how he “hates that I’m there while the baby is napping” and even told her that “you get expensive if you’re here while the baby is napping.”
It felt like a real slap in the face for the author, since she was doing the chores and all the work while the baby slept, and it wasn’t like she was doing nothing. Read on below to see how the story evolved, and be sure to share your thoughts in the comments.
A woman who works as a nanny shared how the baby’s parents don’t want to pay her for when the baby sleeps
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The author later added an update about this whole situation
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Many people expressed their support for the author who joined the comment section to share some more information
I'm not a nanny, but I did work at a daycare/preschool. Every afternoon after lunch, the children were put down for a nap. They were still being watched while they were sleeping. Sometimes they didn't go to sleep and the toddlers would wake up during nap time and have to be calmed back to sleep. Some of the older kids would talk in their sleep and would have to be calmed as well. The children may have been asleep, but they still needed our 100% attention. This father sounds like there is something wrong with him and if I was the nanny I would certainly not go back to work for him. Just because a child is asleep doesn't mean that they don't need someone to watch them.
Nothing wrong with the father but dollar signs. He should appreciate a good sitter
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If she was making $20/hr last year, she should be making $22/hr this year just to keep up with inflation. That's not even a raise, that's keeping her pay the same. But it sounds like she's moving on anyway.
Oh, you just know that dad views child care as "women's work" and therefore trivial and not worth paying much for. He wouldn't lower himself to care for his own baby.
Load More Replies... Is the dad the kind of guy who thinks getting a little tiff started from time to time is flirting? It’s the comment about him “chuckling in the background” while she tries to defend herself concerning the hurtful things he said. At any rate, he see’s a weakness in an employee that he is trying to exploit in order for him to feel more powerful.
He sounds like a really weird guy. If that is his idea of flirting, I am surprised he is married.
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For starters $20hr is not enough. I run a pet walking/sitting company and charge way more than that to look after people's pets, given they are people's baby's but still a kid is alot more effort. And just because the kid is sleeping doesn't mean you shouldn't be charging unless he wants you to leave the kid unattended. I will often be pet sitting at peoples houses whilst they are away so most of the time I'm getting paid and not even interacting with the pet as alot sleep big chunks of the day or are a senior pet and will literally sleep all day. Doesn't mean i shouldn't get paid as the service it to be there incase something happens.
Last year I took on some child care work to supplement my income while trying to grow my coaching practice. I’m a professional with 2 Ivy League degrees and multiple certifications and years of coaching and personal development experience who fell on hard times. This was a good way to contribute and show up in person for people and earn some consistent income. I was shocked by what people wanted to pay. The going rate, in an affluent neighborhood, was $25/hour for 2 kids. I took on a position with a family charging them almost double this. I coached the kids on life skills, emotional intelligence, and other important skills. I oversaw homework, tutored in reading, got them on a schedule and a routine. The mom often made comments about the “expense,” and often hired a different “babysitter” on weekends or on my day off. I insisted that I was not a “babysitter” and yet she would insist to her kids that I was a “babysitter.” You signed up to have kids. Kids are expensive.
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My wife is a nanny with 25 years experience and her early childhood education degree, she gets payed 25$ an hour for 1 kid and 10$ more per extra child. She gets payed for 40 hours a week no matter what, parents have day off don't need her she gets payed, child has a Dr appt and she goes home early she gets payed, in fact she gets 2 weeks sick leave, 2 weeks vacation and 6 personal days on top of getting payed when they go on vacation. The reason she gets payed like this is because great childcare is hard to come by and if you find a great nanny you do WHATEVER it takes to keep them happy and staying in your home because the parents need the great nanny more than the great nanny needs the job. My wife can literally find a new job with all the benefits I said in less than 6 hours, I've seen her do it. So moral of the story is DONT NIT PICK OR BE TICKY TACKY WITH YOUR NANNY OR MANNY, YOU WILL LOSE THEM.
Firemen should only get paid when putting out fires. It’s outrageous getting paid to wait for burning buildings.
Hey, no problem. Just leave and do what you want while the baby's asleep. Maybe have a part-time job. They'll be fine and it'll save the parents money since you're not "wasting the money" being all expensive while the child sleeps. /S
I feel for the OP. She's young and admittedly doesn't defend herself at times like this. The father knows exactly what he's doing to her by gas lighting, lying, shifting blame, snide comments and guilt tripping her by accepting payment for his child who she clearly adores, then laughing about it. He sounds like a real narcissistic gem! If OP isn't able to stick up for herself then I'm ready, able and willing to do it for her. If I was this winners wife (which I would never be) I would go off on him for his behavior especially to a young girl whom you've hired to help raise and educate your baby.
Read it anyway. Yeah, that dad is a piece of trash. NTA. Get as far away from them as possible.
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When you're good at something, never do it for free... Eff those people especially the husband. I'd say I'm doubling my rate or quitting on the spot
I did childcare in my home, I did not deduct the time the children napped. If a tornado were to strike, it's my responsibility to bring the children to a safe place. I didn't wait til they got up from a nap to do so. During nap time is when the employees get a break, or does dad relieve her at a set time?
If they require her to be there, she's on the clock. If they told her that she could leave while the baby slept, that's another story.
Babysitting is nothing like a field trip. That man should watch his own kid and see what it's like.
If a person was hired for say 8 am to 4 pm, employers has to pay, nothing like not doing anything, don’t have to pay you. Don’t work that way. Every where there are down time, still get paid.
So, I could've just left the house when my kids were sleeping? Who knew? Honestly, the low value we put place on childcare is maddening. I'd like to see that father get through a day of caring for his daughter without any help.
It's not just childcare. There are far too many people who devalue other people's time. There is this odd belief that the job has to be extraordinary to deserve payment. People deserve compensated for their time. If a person is not free to leave and do whatever they want, then a living wage should be paid. Normal jobs have paid breaks, too, required by law.
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I personally think you should be making more money! Let them take that baby to daycare and pay 1200 a week....They will think you are a bargain then! Dont let them bully you like that..Even when a child sleeps it needs a watchful eye...Does he not know babies can suffocate, overheat, choke? He is the Ahole, not you!
Here’s one thing I will say to all you fellow “people pleasers” out there from a former one myself: snap out of it! No one actually cares about our extra contributions. They don’t value us any more, or respect us more. You have to love yourself enough to know your own worth and set clear boundaries. Please don’t wait until you’re over 50 like I did to learn these lessons. But it will be hard to let those patterns go, I warn you in advance. You will have to forgive yourself for allowing these people to walk on you. Because yes, we are responsible for ourselves being hurt. We cannot change other people, only ourselves. However, once you let go, it is so freeing. Go be free my dear friends!
What does he expect, that you just leave the sleeping kid alone and go home? Because that’s what you do if you don’t get paid.
He expects exactly that because he and his wife are home and he thinks that's enough and he doesn't value the nanny because he thinks she's not needed when the kid sleeps
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Just take care of your own kids then or ask a babysitter for a few hours.
Something needs to be understood by businesses today. Very, very few ever give enough of a raise to keep up with inflation anymore. The other issue is that if you're not making the average wage (or more), you actually lose money even if you get a matching percentage to inflation. If you make $10 an hour and inflation is 3% and you get a 3% raise, that's $600 a year. However costs for things like food, rent, gas, clothing go up the same amount for everyone, regardless of how much you make. So if you get a $600 a year raise and your landlord raises your rent $100 a month, you're S.O.L.
You should get paid whether the child is awake or sleeping. While that child is sleeping you're on call just in case they should wake up. It would be the same if you were responsible for taking a child to school and picking them up, if you're who the school calls if there's an emergency, then you would get paid while they're in school because you would be on call. If 5hey don't want to pay you while the child is sleeping, you don't need to be there while the child is sleeping. Leave this job and don't look back.
I hope you have better luck with your new job.I think he is the AH. Good luck to them to find someone as good as you!
I didn't understand this either until I had kids myself...lol They go through such rapid changes in the first few years. I threw away the "in months" thing after they officially turned 2.
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Uhhh.. does the dad want the baby to be left alone in the house while sleeping?
Has the dim bulb father never heard of SIDS? Does he think that babies just sleep for 8 hours and never ever wake up needing to be fed or changed?
What??? 1. SIDS applies to babies younger than 1 year old. 2. That baby sleeps when OP isn't there, and has survived. OP isn't a magical talisman against SIDS. No one is sitting by the crib watching this baby breathe. 3. Who said anything about an 8-hour nap? 4. This baby is 22 months old. A 22-month old child is absolutely capable of sleeping 8 hours without being woken up to be fed, and some don't need to be changed either. A child this age actually needs ~12-14 hours of sleep per day.
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I had a boss like that in a different field. HE required I come into the office 5 days a week for set hours. Even though the vast majority of my work could be done at home and much more efficiently there. Then when things were slow and he was feeling insecure he'd throw tantrums because I expected to be paid for every minute I was forced to be in the office. Not just per project. Its the sign of an incredibly greedy and insecure little man.
I used to work for the most prestigious day cares in the area. Our job contract stated we couldn't work for our clients off hours but honestly who else would the parents trust to watch their kids when they needed a night off. I did lots of off hours babysitting for them and never once did they complain about me being expensive while their kids sleep. Obviously it's their 2 year old wome up and tried to climb out and wander around it was important that an adult was there! I made good money for good reason and that reason was keeping the babies safe.
I was a nanny in the past a had a parent that had no problem paying me 5bucks an hr for 50hrs per wk. I put up with it for over 2 yrs, cause I felt like I had no other options. She had a second kid and wanted me to return after a few mths of mat leave at a ridiculously low increase. I was so done! I ended up leaving and joining a temp nanny agency. I was called with a FT job and turned it down. I changed my mind and interviewed with this family on a Friday night and was offered the job the next day. There was talk about salary and was told they would get back to me. I ended up having to call them back, worried I was asking for too much. His response "Whatever makes you happy"! I worked for them for over two yrs. She was a teacher, so the first yr she surprised me with a month's paid vacation in august, it was the same the next yr too. Great fam! My other issue is the pay that a lot of parents are offering is the same or less than it was 20yrs ago, ugh!
She should advocate for a new contract. As a "nanny" and not a "baby sitter" her rate is as follows: waking hours $25,sleeping hours $20,hours when child wakes up in medical distress $1,000,time listening to pay complaints $50 with a one hour minimum. An additional $10 an hour should be added when using bilingual skills, $42 for 50 minutes when providing therapy, both couples or children's I could continue but I hopefully made my point Yes I will be more than happy to work as your advocate and negotiate a meaningful and satisfactory contract that will be legally binding I dislike bullies if all types
Do not return! My bff has had something similar to this happen with a house/pet sitting he had done for a couple for years. The husband told him that he wasn't taking the dogs out when they were suppose to and just kept ranting. My bff would leave in the middle of doing something to make sure the dogs went out on schedule. The wife apologized for her husband actions and he accepted their apology. He asked my opinion and I said I wouldn't do it again because it would probably happen again and he did not need that stress with health. So when they called him to house sit he declined. Giving the reason it was just too far to go back and forth. And it was a bit out of the city south was plausible. It was also something we had discussed with him telling me he didn't like the drive. So op don't go back this man will do it again. Not being paid while the baby is napping is a joke. If you shouldn't be paid while she naps then they shouldn't expect you to stay during that time. Walk away.
36 years in business and I can tell you some parents are so rude. I've heard these gripes all along the way. It's not worth it to work for them. It won't get any better.
Seems like it's ways the wealthiest people, the ones who have the most to give and would would have the easiest time giving it (whether that be laying their employees or helping others, etc) are always the most selfish, self-centered, condescending people there are. On the other hand, it's the ones without a pot to píss in, that would literally give someone else the shirts off their back. Because someone who is struggling, doesn't want to see anyone else struggle. But when people get money, they forget that they once struggled, too. Or they never had to, in the first place. Either way, they start to think they're better than anyone who is "lower" than them. They look down on them. And they treat them accordingly. Money changes people, man. I don't ever want to be rich. I'm glad she's waking away from these awful people.
I know she'll miss the baby, and that'll be hard for her. But sooner or later, that little girl will become a mini version of her parents, and start acting just like them. And that would hurt OP even more. I'm glad she won't be there to see that.
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I'm with nobat7364, when nap time & don't want to sleep, I'm ready to kill or walk out. I work Day Care, 7-14 1 yr olds. Always that 1 or 2 wining, crying, playing, singing won't go to sleep, about to wake others
F**k that guy. Leave and don't go back. Make sure they know HE'S the reason.
I guess this cheap ba$tard hasn't looked far enough ahead. This child is going to need to start potty training soon (of she is ready) who is going to do that? You have to be consistent for it to work. Is he going to do that all day? Mention that.
Sounds like he's a Karen (thinks he is entitled). He also he is too self-involved to be a good father. I totally agree that she should quit.
I'm not a nanny so I can't imagine the emotional turmoil but she definitely deserves better treatment for all that she does.
Wow! What a precious little flower that father is. The only reason the parents decided to talk to her is because the comments she made on Reddit must have gotten back to them. In VA, nannies get paid on average of $25/hr and UNLESS it is spelled out before the nanny takes the job, which is why a written contract should be done & signed between employer & employee on the exact duties all spelled out, are expected to care and GUARD the children in their care (including when they are asleep), along with feeding, entertaining them, taking them to & from school or after-school programs, preparing any meals or snacks, clearing up after the children and seeing they get any scheduled medications & feedings. The nanny's job are to the children only unless written into the contract. The very idea that a nanny or sitter isn't working while the kids are sleeping is idiotic. Any mom will tell you if babies have a bad dream they need a cuddle, if sick they need watched over as well!
If dad thinks that babysitting is expensive, just wait until the child is 16 years old and wants a car, an iPhone, a laptop, a vacation with her friends, clothes, sports equipment, etc. etc.
Sorry but a babysitter IS supposed to be paid as long as she is there, doesn't matter if the kid is sleeping or not. I would never try something so petty as to argue otherwise.
Wouldn't you just love to be a fly on the wall when Mum finds out the nanny left and they've got to look after their own kid, work and interview new nannies? Good luck in your new job, OP, and lets hope their new nanny won't put up with his garbage either.
Unless the parents are there while baby is napping, than you are still working. Tell dad to shove it and find something else. Iam a houskeeper and forever am finding in commercial compqnies, of them cutting back on what we do because they dont want to pay us. Sounds great but in the long run we end up doing more, same thing with watching kids.
If you stay renegotiate the contract and have it say "here's my tutor rates and my cleaning service rates on top of my child care rates! Oh and I charge extra because I'm bilingual, as well!" Know your worth! Children are not easy, and teaching is not easy either. And no one likes cleaning sh*t that's not theirs. I'm a pet groomer and I have finally realized my worth and I most definitely charge accordingly.
If ok was up front about her price before being hired then the father made a choice to hire or not. On another note I think she is selling herself a little short, babysitter, house keeper, tutor, etc. And on a third note why do you need a babysitter while you are home?
I don't care if the baby is sleeping. Your there to do a job and should be paid every hour your there. Your either a baby sitter or a housekeeper. If they want you to do both it should be in the contract. The fact bb that you do things while baby is sleeping is a bonus for them and a kindness from you. Talk it out. If they don't listen go somewhere else
I predict the parents are gonna have a few arguments after the nanny leaves because that is when they realize they had it made and the stupid father's cheap-a*s comments ruined a perfectly nice set-up. I will be eagerly waiting for a follow-up when the mother files a post on her stupid a*s husband.
My sister watches two kids during the day while the father is sleeping! Because he works nights, she GETS PAID, the whole time she is there!YOU need to be paid the whole time you are THERE!
No one gonna comment on a 22 month old learning Spanish? I mean, from what I get from this Spanish is t the first language sooooooo... I dunno something feels off about this lol.
I don't know where she lives but it sounds like she is really underpaid. She is an EMT trained, bilingual nanny. She is teaching the kid spanish & helps the student mother with her spanish homework too. I used to get paid $20 an hour for basic babysitting when I was a teenager. This woman has training & abilities that I certainly did not have. She needs to find a family that appreciates her & pays her what she is worth.
NTA... he wasn't kidding. When mamma found out she gave him an A$$ chewing. Ask mamma if you could possibly get a letter of reference. There are too many instances and you're not comfortable returning.
You ought to charge extra based on your EMT skills - you're qualified to provide emergency medical assistance in the event of a medical emergency. Those minutes others would have to wait for ambulance might mean the difference between life and death for that little child. Some customers just aren't worth it. This is Exhibits A through Z on that one. Let that customer mind her own child if she can't appreciably pay for the privilege of another set of watchful eyes on her child. You are definitely NTA.
NTA in the slightest but he might feel like you're part of the family so he can tell you lame jokes. I base this on the fact his wife sided with you easily and probably has heard her fair ahare think back to if she rolled her eyes at any point of you pointing this or or even if she might have been trying to hide it. As a man I don't have any problem telling you we get to familiar sometimes and it's not always sexual he might look at you sometimes as a daughter or niece and he might treat them that way. Because honestly most men won't fease up
I'm not a nanny, but I did work at a daycare/preschool. Every afternoon after lunch, the children were put down for a nap. They were still being watched while they were sleeping. Sometimes they didn't go to sleep and the toddlers would wake up during nap time and have to be calmed back to sleep. Some of the older kids would talk in their sleep and would have to be calmed as well. The children may have been asleep, but they still needed our 100% attention. This father sounds like there is something wrong with him and if I was the nanny I would certainly not go back to work for him. Just because a child is asleep doesn't mean that they don't need someone to watch them.
Nothing wrong with the father but dollar signs. He should appreciate a good sitter
Load More Replies... If she was making $20/hr last year, she should be making $22/hr this year just to keep up with inflation. That's not even a raise, that's keeping her pay the same. But it sounds like she's moving on anyway.
Oh, you just know that dad views child care as "women's work" and therefore trivial and not worth paying much for. He wouldn't lower himself to care for his own baby.
Load More Replies... Is the dad the kind of guy who thinks getting a little tiff started from time to time is flirting? It’s the comment about him “chuckling in the background” while she tries to defend herself concerning the hurtful things he said. At any rate, he see’s a weakness in an employee that he is trying to exploit in order for him to feel more powerful.
He sounds like a really weird guy. If that is his idea of flirting, I am surprised he is married.
Load More Replies... For starters $20hr is not enough. I run a pet walking/sitting company and charge way more than that to look after people's pets, given they are people's baby's but still a kid is alot more effort. And just because the kid is sleeping doesn't mean you shouldn't be charging unless he wants you to leave the kid unattended. I will often be pet sitting at peoples houses whilst they are away so most of the time I'm getting paid and not even interacting with the pet as alot sleep big chunks of the day or are a senior pet and will literally sleep all day. Doesn't mean i shouldn't get paid as the service it to be there incase something happens.
Last year I took on some child care work to supplement my income while trying to grow my coaching practice. I’m a professional with 2 Ivy League degrees and multiple certifications and years of coaching and personal development experience who fell on hard times. This was a good way to contribute and show up in person for people and earn some consistent income. I was shocked by what people wanted to pay. The going rate, in an affluent neighborhood, was $25/hour for 2 kids. I took on a position with a family charging them almost double this. I coached the kids on life skills, emotional intelligence, and other important skills. I oversaw homework, tutored in reading, got them on a schedule and a routine. The mom often made comments about the “expense,” and often hired a different “babysitter” on weekends or on my day off. I insisted that I was not a “babysitter” and yet she would insist to her kids that I was a “babysitter.” You signed up to have kids. Kids are expensive.
Load More Replies... My wife is a nanny with 25 years experience and her early childhood education degree, she gets payed 25$ an hour for 1 kid and 10$ more per extra child. She gets payed for 40 hours a week no matter what, parents have day off don't need her she gets payed, child has a Dr appt and she goes home early she gets payed, in fact she gets 2 weeks sick leave, 2 weeks vacation and 6 personal days on top of getting payed when they go on vacation. The reason she gets payed like this is because great childcare is hard to come by and if you find a great nanny you do WHATEVER it takes to keep them happy and staying in your home because the parents need the great nanny more than the great nanny needs the job. My wife can literally find a new job with all the benefits I said in less than 6 hours, I've seen her do it. So moral of the story is DONT NIT PICK OR BE TICKY TACKY WITH YOUR NANNY OR MANNY, YOU WILL LOSE THEM.
Firemen should only get paid when putting out fires. It’s outrageous getting paid to wait for burning buildings.
Hey, no problem. Just leave and do what you want while the baby's asleep. Maybe have a part-time job. They'll be fine and it'll save the parents money since you're not "wasting the money" being all expensive while the child sleeps. /S
I feel for the OP. She's young and admittedly doesn't defend herself at times like this. The father knows exactly what he's doing to her by gas lighting, lying, shifting blame, snide comments and guilt tripping her by accepting payment for his child who she clearly adores, then laughing about it. He sounds like a real narcissistic gem! If OP isn't able to stick up for herself then I'm ready, able and willing to do it for her. If I was this winners wife (which I would never be) I would go off on him for his behavior especially to a young girl whom you've hired to help raise and educate your baby.
Read it anyway. Yeah, that dad is a piece of trash. NTA. Get as far away from them as possible.
Load More Replies... When you're good at something, never do it for free... Eff those people especially the husband. I'd say I'm doubling my rate or quitting on the spot
I did childcare in my home, I did not deduct the time the children napped. If a tornado were to strike, it's my responsibility to bring the children to a safe place. I didn't wait til they got up from a nap to do so. During nap time is when the employees get a break, or does dad relieve her at a set time?
If they require her to be there, she's on the clock. If they told her that she could leave while the baby slept, that's another story.
Babysitting is nothing like a field trip. That man should watch his own kid and see what it's like.
If a person was hired for say 8 am to 4 pm, employers has to pay, nothing like not doing anything, don’t have to pay you. Don’t work that way. Every where there are down time, still get paid.
So, I could've just left the house when my kids were sleeping? Who knew? Honestly, the low value we put place on childcare is maddening. I'd like to see that father get through a day of caring for his daughter without any help.
It's not just childcare. There are far too many people who devalue other people's time. There is this odd belief that the job has to be extraordinary to deserve payment. People deserve compensated for their time. If a person is not free to leave and do whatever they want, then a living wage should be paid. Normal jobs have paid breaks, too, required by law.
Load More Replies... I personally think you should be making more money! Let them take that baby to daycare and pay 1200 a week....They will think you are a bargain then! Dont let them bully you like that..Even when a child sleeps it needs a watchful eye...Does he not know babies can suffocate, overheat, choke? He is the Ahole, not you!
Here’s one thing I will say to all you fellow “people pleasers” out there from a former one myself: snap out of it! No one actually cares about our extra contributions. They don’t value us any more, or respect us more. You have to love yourself enough to know your own worth and set clear boundaries. Please don’t wait until you’re over 50 like I did to learn these lessons. But it will be hard to let those patterns go, I warn you in advance. You will have to forgive yourself for allowing these people to walk on you. Because yes, we are responsible for ourselves being hurt. We cannot change other people, only ourselves. However, once you let go, it is so freeing. Go be free my dear friends!
What does he expect, that you just leave the sleeping kid alone and go home? Because that’s what you do if you don’t get paid.
He expects exactly that because he and his wife are home and he thinks that's enough and he doesn't value the nanny because he thinks she's not needed when the kid sleeps
Load More Replies... Just take care of your own kids then or ask a babysitter for a few hours.
Something needs to be understood by businesses today. Very, very few ever give enough of a raise to keep up with inflation anymore. The other issue is that if you're not making the average wage (or more), you actually lose money even if you get a matching percentage to inflation. If you make $10 an hour and inflation is 3% and you get a 3% raise, that's $600 a year. However costs for things like food, rent, gas, clothing go up the same amount for everyone, regardless of how much you make. So if you get a $600 a year raise and your landlord raises your rent $100 a month, you're S.O.L.
You should get paid whether the child is awake or sleeping. While that child is sleeping you're on call just in case they should wake up. It would be the same if you were responsible for taking a child to school and picking them up, if you're who the school calls if there's an emergency, then you would get paid while they're in school because you would be on call. If 5hey don't want to pay you while the child is sleeping, you don't need to be there while the child is sleeping. Leave this job and don't look back.
I hope you have better luck with your new job.I think he is the AH. Good luck to them to find someone as good as you!
I didn't understand this either until I had kids myself...lol They go through such rapid changes in the first few years. I threw away the "in months" thing after they officially turned 2.
Load More Replies... Uhhh.. does the dad want the baby to be left alone in the house while sleeping?
Has the dim bulb father never heard of SIDS? Does he think that babies just sleep for 8 hours and never ever wake up needing to be fed or changed?
What??? 1. SIDS applies to babies younger than 1 year old. 2. That baby sleeps when OP isn't there, and has survived. OP isn't a magical talisman against SIDS. No one is sitting by the crib watching this baby breathe. 3. Who said anything about an 8-hour nap? 4. This baby is 22 months old. A 22-month old child is absolutely capable of sleeping 8 hours without being woken up to be fed, and some don't need to be changed either. A child this age actually needs ~12-14 hours of sleep per day.
Load More Replies... I had a boss like that in a different field. HE required I come into the office 5 days a week for set hours. Even though the vast majority of my work could be done at home and much more efficiently there. Then when things were slow and he was feeling insecure he'd throw tantrums because I expected to be paid for every minute I was forced to be in the office. Not just per project. Its the sign of an incredibly greedy and insecure little man.
I used to work for the most prestigious day cares in the area. Our job contract stated we couldn't work for our clients off hours but honestly who else would the parents trust to watch their kids when they needed a night off. I did lots of off hours babysitting for them and never once did they complain about me being expensive while their kids sleep. Obviously it's their 2 year old wome up and tried to climb out and wander around it was important that an adult was there! I made good money for good reason and that reason was keeping the babies safe.
I was a nanny in the past a had a parent that had no problem paying me 5bucks an hr for 50hrs per wk. I put up with it for over 2 yrs, cause I felt like I had no other options. She had a second kid and wanted me to return after a few mths of mat leave at a ridiculously low increase. I was so done! I ended up leaving and joining a temp nanny agency. I was called with a FT job and turned it down. I changed my mind and interviewed with this family on a Friday night and was offered the job the next day. There was talk about salary and was told they would get back to me. I ended up having to call them back, worried I was asking for too much. His response "Whatever makes you happy"! I worked for them for over two yrs. She was a teacher, so the first yr she surprised me with a month's paid vacation in august, it was the same the next yr too. Great fam! My other issue is the pay that a lot of parents are offering is the same or less than it was 20yrs ago, ugh!
She should advocate for a new contract. As a "nanny" and not a "baby sitter" her rate is as follows: waking hours $25,sleeping hours $20,hours when child wakes up in medical distress $1,000,time listening to pay complaints $50 with a one hour minimum. An additional $10 an hour should be added when using bilingual skills, $42 for 50 minutes when providing therapy, both couples or children's I could continue but I hopefully made my point Yes I will be more than happy to work as your advocate and negotiate a meaningful and satisfactory contract that will be legally binding I dislike bullies if all types
Do not return! My bff has had something similar to this happen with a house/pet sitting he had done for a couple for years. The husband told him that he wasn't taking the dogs out when they were suppose to and just kept ranting. My bff would leave in the middle of doing something to make sure the dogs went out on schedule. The wife apologized for her husband actions and he accepted their apology. He asked my opinion and I said I wouldn't do it again because it would probably happen again and he did not need that stress with health. So when they called him to house sit he declined. Giving the reason it was just too far to go back and forth. And it was a bit out of the city south was plausible. It was also something we had discussed with him telling me he didn't like the drive. So op don't go back this man will do it again. Not being paid while the baby is napping is a joke. If you shouldn't be paid while she naps then they shouldn't expect you to stay during that time. Walk away.
36 years in business and I can tell you some parents are so rude. I've heard these gripes all along the way. It's not worth it to work for them. It won't get any better.
Seems like it's ways the wealthiest people, the ones who have the most to give and would would have the easiest time giving it (whether that be laying their employees or helping others, etc) are always the most selfish, self-centered, condescending people there are. On the other hand, it's the ones without a pot to píss in, that would literally give someone else the shirts off their back. Because someone who is struggling, doesn't want to see anyone else struggle. But when people get money, they forget that they once struggled, too. Or they never had to, in the first place. Either way, they start to think they're better than anyone who is "lower" than them. They look down on them. And they treat them accordingly. Money changes people, man. I don't ever want to be rich. I'm glad she's waking away from these awful people.
I know she'll miss the baby, and that'll be hard for her. But sooner or later, that little girl will become a mini version of her parents, and start acting just like them. And that would hurt OP even more. I'm glad she won't be there to see that.
Load More Replies... I'm with nobat7364, when nap time & don't want to sleep, I'm ready to kill or walk out. I work Day Care, 7-14 1 yr olds. Always that 1 or 2 wining, crying, playing, singing won't go to sleep, about to wake others
F**k that guy. Leave and don't go back. Make sure they know HE'S the reason.
I guess this cheap ba$tard hasn't looked far enough ahead. This child is going to need to start potty training soon (of she is ready) who is going to do that? You have to be consistent for it to work. Is he going to do that all day? Mention that.
Sounds like he's a Karen (thinks he is entitled). He also he is too self-involved to be a good father. I totally agree that she should quit.
I'm not a nanny so I can't imagine the emotional turmoil but she definitely deserves better treatment for all that she does.
Wow! What a precious little flower that father is. The only reason the parents decided to talk to her is because the comments she made on Reddit must have gotten back to them. In VA, nannies get paid on average of $25/hr and UNLESS it is spelled out before the nanny takes the job, which is why a written contract should be done & signed between employer & employee on the exact duties all spelled out, are expected to care and GUARD the children in their care (including when they are asleep), along with feeding, entertaining them, taking them to & from school or after-school programs, preparing any meals or snacks, clearing up after the children and seeing they get any scheduled medications & feedings. The nanny's job are to the children only unless written into the contract. The very idea that a nanny or sitter isn't working while the kids are sleeping is idiotic. Any mom will tell you if babies have a bad dream they need a cuddle, if sick they need watched over as well!
If dad thinks that babysitting is expensive, just wait until the child is 16 years old and wants a car, an iPhone, a laptop, a vacation with her friends, clothes, sports equipment, etc. etc.
Sorry but a babysitter IS supposed to be paid as long as she is there, doesn't matter if the kid is sleeping or not. I would never try something so petty as to argue otherwise.
Wouldn't you just love to be a fly on the wall when Mum finds out the nanny left and they've got to look after their own kid, work and interview new nannies? Good luck in your new job, OP, and lets hope their new nanny won't put up with his garbage either.
Unless the parents are there while baby is napping, than you are still working. Tell dad to shove it and find something else. Iam a houskeeper and forever am finding in commercial compqnies, of them cutting back on what we do because they dont want to pay us. Sounds great but in the long run we end up doing more, same thing with watching kids.
If you stay renegotiate the contract and have it say "here's my tutor rates and my cleaning service rates on top of my child care rates! Oh and I charge extra because I'm bilingual, as well!" Know your worth! Children are not easy, and teaching is not easy either. And no one likes cleaning sh*t that's not theirs. I'm a pet groomer and I have finally realized my worth and I most definitely charge accordingly.
If ok was up front about her price before being hired then the father made a choice to hire or not. On another note I think she is selling herself a little short, babysitter, house keeper, tutor, etc. And on a third note why do you need a babysitter while you are home?
I don't care if the baby is sleeping. Your there to do a job and should be paid every hour your there. Your either a baby sitter or a housekeeper. If they want you to do both it should be in the contract. The fact bb that you do things while baby is sleeping is a bonus for them and a kindness from you. Talk it out. If they don't listen go somewhere else
I predict the parents are gonna have a few arguments after the nanny leaves because that is when they realize they had it made and the stupid father's cheap-a*s comments ruined a perfectly nice set-up. I will be eagerly waiting for a follow-up when the mother files a post on her stupid a*s husband.
My sister watches two kids during the day while the father is sleeping! Because he works nights, she GETS PAID, the whole time she is there!YOU need to be paid the whole time you are THERE!
No one gonna comment on a 22 month old learning Spanish? I mean, from what I get from this Spanish is t the first language sooooooo... I dunno something feels off about this lol.
I don't know where she lives but it sounds like she is really underpaid. She is an EMT trained, bilingual nanny. She is teaching the kid spanish & helps the student mother with her spanish homework too. I used to get paid $20 an hour for basic babysitting when I was a teenager. This woman has training & abilities that I certainly did not have. She needs to find a family that appreciates her & pays her what she is worth.
NTA... he wasn't kidding. When mamma found out she gave him an A$$ chewing. Ask mamma if you could possibly get a letter of reference. There are too many instances and you're not comfortable returning.
You ought to charge extra based on your EMT skills - you're qualified to provide emergency medical assistance in the event of a medical emergency. Those minutes others would have to wait for ambulance might mean the difference between life and death for that little child. Some customers just aren't worth it. This is Exhibits A through Z on that one. Let that customer mind her own child if she can't appreciably pay for the privilege of another set of watchful eyes on her child. You are definitely NTA.
NTA in the slightest but he might feel like you're part of the family so he can tell you lame jokes. I base this on the fact his wife sided with you easily and probably has heard her fair ahare think back to if she rolled her eyes at any point of you pointing this or or even if she might have been trying to hide it. As a man I don't have any problem telling you we get to familiar sometimes and it's not always sexual he might look at you sometimes as a daughter or niece and he might treat them that way. Because honestly most men won't fease up
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