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Autistic Boy Goes To School With A Hidden Recorder In Backpack, Two Teachers Get Fired
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Autistic Boy Goes To School With A Hidden Recorder In Backpack, Two Teachers Get Fired

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12-year-old Camden Davis, from Baton Rogue, Louisiana, had been attending the Hope Academy since last year. The academy specializes in teaching special needs students, and according to its website promotes “inclusion, encouragement, positive relationships and recognition of student accomplishment.”

Camden is severely autistic, and his mother Milissa had enrolled him at Hope Academy in the hope of giving him a supportive and understanding environment where he could learn at his own pace. However, she began to notice increased signs of distress in Camden after coming home from school and instinctively knew that something was wrong.

So one day, she decided to place a recording device in his backpack to get an idea of what might be causing his unhappiness, as he was unable to vocalize it himself. It’s fair to say that she was shocked with what she found. Camden was being bullied. Not by classmates or kids in the playground, but by the specially trained teachers who were supposed to support him.

“I’m sad and heart broken that this happened to Camden,” Milissa told Bored Panda. “I am his biggest advocate and his biggest fighter for justice. No child should have to have this happen to them. I brought this to light because I wanted my son to be the last kid that this happened to at this school. This is happening all over the world, and people need to learn to accept kids and adults with Autism. They have a light in them that shines so bright.”

Camden is at a new school and his new teacher has a degree in special ed, Applied Behavior Analysis, and a minor in psychology, so he is being well treated now. However, he still suffers some effects from his experience. “He still is having severe anxiety and wetting the bed,” Milissa told us. “He had not wet the bed since he was 3.”

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“Bullying is terrible when it’s kids-on-kids. But it’s so much worse when it’s adults picking on your child.”

Scroll below to see how the story unfolded.

This is Camden, a 12-year-old from Louisiana who attended the Hope Academy, a special school for kids like him with autism

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His mother Milissa wanted him to get a supportive and understanding environment where he could learn at his own pace

Image credits: Milissa Davis

So she felt extremely lucky when Camden was accepted to the school

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Which is known for good conditions for students with special needs

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But she noticed that the usually cheerful and happy boy was distressed. He got aggressive and would frequently wet the bed

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Image credits: Milissa Davis

The concerned mom tried talking to the school board, but she got nothing

Image credits: Milissa Davis

In her desperation, Milissa came up with a plan

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She hid a recording device in her son’s backpack

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Image credits: Spy Equipment UK (not an actual photo)

And the things teachers were saying to Camden left her in shock

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The next day she took the recordings to the school board, which kicked off a chain reaction

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The school’s principal, Lisa Stone, had to act quickly and fired the two teachers heard in the recordings

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Here are the actual recordings that got the internet boiling with fury

Milissa pulled Camden out of the school immediately and has sought legal advice. Her social media post about the incident went viral but has since been removed, while the teachers involved appear to have been fired from the school. Hope Academy’s principal, Linda Stone, released this statement about the incident:

“On March 23, 2018, a recording posted to social media was brought to our attention. Apparently, a parent sent a student to school with a recording device in his/her backpack. The recording appears to be a compilation of audio clips, many of which involve private conversations between two adults with no other persons/children present. The recording contains regretful conversations between these adults.
The parent never brought the recording to the attention of Hope Academy before posting it on social media. The parent has also refused to meet with Hope Academy to discuss the actions we have taken to address the issue. The persons involved in the communications are either no longer with the school or will no longer be with the school after this semester.
Over these many years, Hope Academy has built a strong reputation for competently serving the educational needs of the special needs community. These recordings are not an indication of who we are. We ask that the community not let the actions of two persons reflect on the reputation of and the mission of our school-a mission we have tried so hard to build. We again extend an invitation to meet with the parent involved to discuss this incident further.”

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Maci Wilcox
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm a 7th grader and even I can tell that these teachers are awful. One of my best friends is autistic, and he is the smartest person I know and would be very offended if someone said those things to him. I also help in the special needs classroom at my school, and they are some of the nicest kids in the entire building. I'm hoping to grow up to become a special education teacher, and I'll definitely be nicer than these teachers! I'm really glad that they both got fired!

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Anne Reid
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I wish those teachers were more like you! You have a big heart, Maci. Don’t let anyone change that. We need more people like you in the world.

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Bella Smith
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Does anyone feel reminded of Ms Trunchbal for Matilda and how she became a Headmistress! this is a real-life example of her :(

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just a thought!
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Exactly ! Can't believe there are real teachers like that. If they don't enjoy interacting with children then they shouldn't teach at all.

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Asia
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It only takes a second to say something harmful, yet healing after that takes years...

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Mikaela-Rose Evans
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm autistic (very high functioning). I have other mental disorders, like dyslexia, ADHD, Bipolar disorder and OCD. It's hard to think that people can really treat people like me like we're idiots, that we can't understand anything or things like that. People with learning disabilities aren't stupid. They learn differently. I wish there were more people who can understand this.

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pusheen buttercup
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I feel you, Mikaela-Rose Evans :) Even one who is nonverbal may possibly still understand what is going on. I have heard cases of where a few non-verbal autistic adults learned to type and expressed intelligence that no one thought they had. Regardless too of the level of functioning, a common mistake is to assume people with autism are all the same and not thinking about other factors such as for example ADHD, or the mere fact that it affects us all differently anyway. While this subject is complex, and it is understandable that many fall prey to misconceptions, thank you for helping to spread knowledge to others. :)

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Cassie
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm glad this mom did what she had to do to protect her child. FYI, recording without consent is illegal in many places and you could be charged with a crime if you do this. I read a similar story recently where another mother did the exact same thing and was arrested for it, so don't think authorities will just let it slide. Protect your kids, but know what you may be getting in to.

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Sasy
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Most definitely Cassie, and I am sorry that the system failed your kids in any way, what a terrible thing.

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Matthew A
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would sue... the emotional damage done is worth more than firing over... who knows how long that went on...

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Nate Haggers
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5 years ago

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I would counter-sue and expel the boy. An unauthorized recording device on a private school campus is illegal and surely a violation of enrollment terms.

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Alia G.
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It’s really sad, so many great teachers can’t find jobs, and yet there are people like this who are allowed around children. I wish I could just go through and fire all the teachers like this,

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BetsyB
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think the principal is just as bad as the teachers & is obviously a liar.

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Isabel
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I agree, that statement read very wrong. Good thing she took her son out of there (awesome mom, btw!). Environments with a negative atmosphere (gossiping, bullying etc) often seem to have this behavior because it's either tolerated or even reinforced from the top down. I hope there will be consequences for this school.

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lunanoir69
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My nephew had a PROFESSOR announce to the whole class that "William has a*s burgers!!". My nephew has Asperger's Autism, as well as his two siblings, his father and mother, and myself. That professor will NEVER teach in my state again, believe me!! Nebraska's public school system, and it's community college are a JOKE if you have any type of disability or learning disorder!!!!

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BREAK YOUr perceptions
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

its sickening there are "adults" out there who still think mocking or belittling children of any status is ok. these people should be removed from the gene pool. we have had enough disgusting horrid bullying from other students but when teachers do these things. its unforgivable.

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pusheen buttercup
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm not surprised one bit. Sadly many groups that claim to be understanding are full of ignorant people who only want to improve their reputations. I have autism myself and was really shocked at the treatment I and other children at the time received from similar groups. Autism is simply impossible to type-cast, there's such a broad range, and even the range within a single person is not necessarily uniform nor linear.

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Antonio Fierro
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This angers me deeply, as a father of an autistic boy myself, i don't know what i would do if i found out that he was getting treated like this at his school. Poor child.

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Nate Haggers
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5 years ago

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News flash - he's probably getting treated like this regularly and also being forced to eat cat poop by his peers.

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BusLady
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Is there an acronym for "Crying my eyes out ?" (CMEO). If not, there should be.

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Ntosh
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't know how difficult or easy it is to be a teacher in the US, here in SA it very easy, compared to other careers. Some people often go into teaching as a means of making a living, with no passion for the job or love and patience for children. It is such a shame that as parents we have no choice but to send our kids to these people for their education. This makes me worry about how my children are treated at school. I have a daughter that's only a year old who goes to day care, I always worry about how she is and how the teachers are treating her. I am sorry that this mother had to hear those things they were saying to her child. I commend her for being smart enough to pick up that something was not right with her child

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devon
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Idc what country you are from, teaching is an incredibly tough job. You have to fight for the good ones and put a stop to those who are unqualified for their jobs. Less people are becoming teachers here in the US b/c salaries are awful. That's how awful people like these two teachers end up in the education world. it's truly sad.

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Geoff Masters
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I hope the God of Karma pays a visit to these two teachers as well as the Head Mistress for trying to play down the schools part in this despicable behaviour.

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BusLady
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Her a*s is on the line. She probably makes quite a bit of $ and doesn't want to lose that job.

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Wanda Queen
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Aaaand this is why my 13 yo autistic son and I are going to give home schooling a shot next yet. I am so tired of beating my head against he wall with teachers and administrators who insist on thinking they can "tough love" the autism out of him.

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Mingi Football
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why do these people (they aren't teachers) choose this profession when they don't care about the children? If the time comes when you have lost heart and no longer care to "teach" it is time to change professions.

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phil blanque
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wellll...There are many questions to be answered here. Some are financial...How much are these teachers paid, how much training do they have, and how are they vetted? Do teachers have adequate back-up support when they need to take attention away from the rest of the class to address individual student needs, which can vary quickly and require immediate intervention? What is the pay differential between administrators and teachers? In my experience high level administrators may be paid well over $120,00 a year, while teachers may be paid under $30,000...not a good recruiting strategy. Lastly, what oversight does the administration have over everyday activities in the school...it is really on them that a parent had to find a way to identify these problems. That is the administrators' job!! Someone should evaluate them...they appear to be negligent. A sad post, but an excellent mom...watchful over her child and ready to take action to protect him!

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Malcontent
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Heard about this on the Philip DeFranco show a couple weeks ago- disgusting behaviour from people who are supposed to be helping the kid, makes you wonder why they became teachers if that is how much care & compassion they show children, any children, let alone ones with learning difficulties.

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pusheen buttercup
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Simply not knowing any better, I can forgive, but not trying to improve ones' understanding when it's a job you took on... I see that in my opinion as wrong.

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Shana
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If you can't handle working with special needs kids or any kids for that matter, get a different job? If you thought you could but it stresses you out too much, quit and get something else. Kids, with or without special needs, shouldn't be treated like this by the people that are supposed to teach them and help them grow.(shouldn't be treated like that by anyone actually.)

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Biana Weatherford
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'd like to give props to those that can do this job. There is something spectacular about people who can stay calm and encouraging in tough situations that exist in special needs classrooms. Yes that child might be frustrating but it's not his fault and taking your anger out on him solves nothing. So thank you....all you teachers and care givers that do this job without the recognition that you deserve!

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I Love My Dog
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Unfortunately there are many teachers out there like that. They only want the job for the long holidays. Even with non special needs kids they're don't care they just put the ones that struggle at the back of the class and just focus on the brighter kids. It's just so wrong and sad. Every child is special and every child no matter what their learning abilities should have the chance to shine and have all their needs met and addressed.

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ALIYAH ALLEN
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

i had friends that used to make fun of mentally disabled children. i at least thought teachers would have enough sense to educate instead of criticize.

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Suzanne Haigh
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What I do not understand is that they were employed by a school for children with special needs, why could they cope with them? In the UK you have to special training for a special school, beside you teaching degrees, is it not the same in America

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Kimberly gibbler
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I know a lot of people who think that autistic people are annoying loud and weird but they are very smart and creative in deed and anyone who disagrees needs to be educated especially someone who was supposed to be anyway

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Efraín Suárez-Arce
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Mom is really gonna need that attorney in order to explain how and why she set up her 12 year old autistic son with a wire and sent him to school to record PRIVATE CONVERSATIONS BETWEEN ADULTS illegally. She got two teachers fired over these illegal recordings. I see “lawsuit” written all over this.

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Efraín Suárez-Arce
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

On April 27th, 2018 D.G. Sciortino from Shareably came up with an article that is so biased it borders on the absurd. “Teachers Bully Boy With Autism And Mom Catches Them On Tape” might as well have been written by Milissa Davis, the mom in charge of this set up. Right off the bat, once you’ve identified a handicapped student by name and start publishing his photograph, you’ve already violated C**A, GINA, FERPA and HIPPA. So obviously the welfare of this child is not Sciortino’s first concern. “Nonprofit school” is just an elegant way to say “Charter School.” One day Milissa Davis decided to hide a recording device in her son’s backpack, record adults without their knowledge or consent and then post these recordings online in violation of C**A, FERPA, HIPPA, federal wiretapping laws, cyberstalking laws and probably a few other laws I can’t remember. THEN she took her son out of the school and got a lawyer. Hope Academy’s principal Linda Stone put out a written statement. “On March 23

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Efraín Suárez-Arce
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

On April 27th, 2018 D.G. Sciortino from Shareably came up with an article that is so biased it borders on the absurd. “Teachers Bully Boy With Autism And Mom Catches Them On Tape” might as well have been written by Milissa Davis, the mom in charge of this set up. Right off the bat, once you’ve identified a handicapped student by name and start publishing his photograph, you’ve already violated C**A, GINA, FERPA and HIPPA. So obviously the welfare of this child is not Sciortino’s first concern. “Nonprofit school” is just an elegant way to say “Charter School.” One day Milissa Davis decided to hide a recording device in her son’s backpack, record adults without their knowledge or consent and then post these recordings online in violation of C**A, FERPA, HIPPA, federal wiretapping laws, cyberstalking laws and probably a few other laws I can’t remember. THEN she took her son out of the school and got a lawyer.

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Gerry Higgins
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You get what you pay for. Private schools typically have very low pay scale for teachers. The good ones go on to high paying positions and you're left with the rejects.

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John Anderson
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sometimes there are people who need a baseball bat to the teeth......These teachers need that lesson.

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Ruth Beaty
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The sad thing is this happens with children who don't have special needs too. I stood outside the classroom of my oldest son several times and heard nothing but rants against the superintendent of schools. I finally had to pull my kids out of school and homeschool them.

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Luke Oakridge
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

While those teachers were wrong to say what they did, I do have sympathy for teachers who work in difficult environments. I have substituted before and I can tell you that many kids refuse to behave and will disrupt the classroom. It can be very frustrating when there is limited punishment options available for substitutes to use on disruptive students. Even special needs students will sometimes do less than they are capable of doing and can be disruptive. It is important to know what a student's capabilities are, but I believe that we should hold students to them rather than letting them get away with avoiding work and disrupting the classroom.

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Eddie77
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Camden was being bullied. Not by classmates or children on the playground, but by specially trained teachers who were supposed to support him. This should not happen in schools of this type... I congratulate Camden's mother for her good idea to put a recording device

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KT Trondsen
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I remember seeing this on the news not long ago. Absolutely broke my heart. I'm so glad the mom was that clever to do a recording. Such horrible teachers, I hope they never get to teach again!

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SexyEggPlant
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't hate the teachers and honestly what I heard wasn't horrible and to be fair being a teacher at a special needs school is frustrating like really frustrating and if one of the students isn't doing what they are supposed to which is what it sounded like it can be more frustrating and it seems like they were taking their frustration on him and since people with special needs can be different it can be hard to connect with them but since they should've been aware of what they were getting into and I do agree that what they said wasn't ok but I can't hate them for doing what they did also I feel like if you are going to be a special needs teacher then they should have special training and requirements if they don't already.

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SexyEggPlant
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Update: the one with the cussing was awful tho and they have no right or excuse to say that

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Christina S.
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

personally I could never do this job because it truly takes a special person to work with special needs people/children. However, if you're going to sign up for such a trying job you should know what you're getting yourself into. You can't expect to walk in and treat children who suffer like animals, how will they ever get better? It's disgusting things like this happen and I applaud the mom for taking action to protect her son. I wish him well on his journey.

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Rhon
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

These teachers were only in the job because they were too immature to grow up and leave school! Shame on them and anyone else who treats a child like this!

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A Little Light Arson
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I do love this story! Although I couldn't help think of Danganronpa when I saw the name of the school...

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Helyn Hughes
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It is illegal in New Zealand to record someone without their knowledge. But what a revelation! And with a son who cannot communicate I fully understand it. However she should have given the school the opportunity to address it first. They may not have done anything, and she could still go public, but it was the right thing to have done. There are no doubt good people there too.

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David Gridley
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Years ago, I was offered a job as a teacher's aide working with special needs students and I turned it down. I knew I didn't have the patience.

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Full Name
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Seems like everyone is a douchebag here. The mom not wanting to talk to the principle and instead going to the internet is just awful, as is going public with people's private coversations. The teachers that said stuff right to the kid need a smack, but so does this mom. People say all kinds of stuff privately between friends. EVERYONE does it. Every single person says things privately they would not say publicly, or at the very least they think things they wouldn't say publicly. Everyone. Maybe the mom was just at wits end so I get it, but she still chose poorly.

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Helyn Hughes
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sometimes teachers let off steam like this. Don’t for one minute think that working with autistic kids is easy. Its really hard, but that said their behaviour was fireable, no question. They are not suited to the job. People that are, are like gold. Its not everyone’s cup of tea.

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Mimikyu
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't normally pity people, but damn, those teachers got what she deserved

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Maria K
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Oh my god.. I can't believe someone, yet alone a teacher, would say that! :(

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Alessandra Ricotta
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ooopps, my cat fault :D Anyway, my mum never have the will to take care for me enough to do the same thing, which has continued for all high schools. I could have fired entire institutions. (sorry for bad english)

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peril-clay
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That's awful. I can't believe anyone would do that. What would they be thinking, anyway???? I'm glad his mom realized something was happening and did something about it. I hope he is okay.

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Shujaat Khan
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is not enough to fire them but also certified them not fit for the job in future in same capacity , as they need psychological treatment themselves and they can not be care taker or teacher of wonderful kids. I am very upset with this incident full marks to mother of wonderful kid and even the board of the school should also be fined due to not able to understand the parents complain and there should be some training to them also.

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Liz Karsa
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am not even a parent so I don't have that protective "mama bear" point of view but I am a human being and these "teachers" are VILE. I am sorry that this child had to be traumatized in such a way. VILE.

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Aunt Messy
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's hilarious that the administration claims that the teachers were talking amongst themselves with no kids present...how did that "conversation" come into existence, then? ... They'll close ranks and pretend the recordings are a lie and try to pretend that since the child is already disabled, no one can "prove" what happened.

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Random Panda
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

To be fair, it's possible the conversation happened during recess and the backpack was left in the room while the kids were outside (I don't know how it is in America, but in my country it's pretty common to leave your backpack in the classroom during recess). However I agree it's more likely they're lying.

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Grumble o'Pug
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Heartbreaking. I hope parents pull their children and that nasty mess closes.

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Nate Haggers
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Snitches get stitches. That little boy better watch his back.

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Maci Wilcox
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm a 7th grader and even I can tell that these teachers are awful. One of my best friends is autistic, and he is the smartest person I know and would be very offended if someone said those things to him. I also help in the special needs classroom at my school, and they are some of the nicest kids in the entire building. I'm hoping to grow up to become a special education teacher, and I'll definitely be nicer than these teachers! I'm really glad that they both got fired!

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Anne Reid
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I wish those teachers were more like you! You have a big heart, Maci. Don’t let anyone change that. We need more people like you in the world.

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Bella Smith
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Does anyone feel reminded of Ms Trunchbal for Matilda and how she became a Headmistress! this is a real-life example of her :(

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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Exactly ! Can't believe there are real teachers like that. If they don't enjoy interacting with children then they shouldn't teach at all.

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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It only takes a second to say something harmful, yet healing after that takes years...

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Mikaela-Rose Evans
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm autistic (very high functioning). I have other mental disorders, like dyslexia, ADHD, Bipolar disorder and OCD. It's hard to think that people can really treat people like me like we're idiots, that we can't understand anything or things like that. People with learning disabilities aren't stupid. They learn differently. I wish there were more people who can understand this.

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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I feel you, Mikaela-Rose Evans :) Even one who is nonverbal may possibly still understand what is going on. I have heard cases of where a few non-verbal autistic adults learned to type and expressed intelligence that no one thought they had. Regardless too of the level of functioning, a common mistake is to assume people with autism are all the same and not thinking about other factors such as for example ADHD, or the mere fact that it affects us all differently anyway. While this subject is complex, and it is understandable that many fall prey to misconceptions, thank you for helping to spread knowledge to others. :)

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Cassie
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm glad this mom did what she had to do to protect her child. FYI, recording without consent is illegal in many places and you could be charged with a crime if you do this. I read a similar story recently where another mother did the exact same thing and was arrested for it, so don't think authorities will just let it slide. Protect your kids, but know what you may be getting in to.

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Sasy
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Most definitely Cassie, and I am sorry that the system failed your kids in any way, what a terrible thing.

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Matthew A
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would sue... the emotional damage done is worth more than firing over... who knows how long that went on...

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Nate Haggers
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I would counter-sue and expel the boy. An unauthorized recording device on a private school campus is illegal and surely a violation of enrollment terms.

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Alia G.
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It’s really sad, so many great teachers can’t find jobs, and yet there are people like this who are allowed around children. I wish I could just go through and fire all the teachers like this,

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BetsyB
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think the principal is just as bad as the teachers & is obviously a liar.

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Isabel
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I agree, that statement read very wrong. Good thing she took her son out of there (awesome mom, btw!). Environments with a negative atmosphere (gossiping, bullying etc) often seem to have this behavior because it's either tolerated or even reinforced from the top down. I hope there will be consequences for this school.

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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My nephew had a PROFESSOR announce to the whole class that "William has a*s burgers!!". My nephew has Asperger's Autism, as well as his two siblings, his father and mother, and myself. That professor will NEVER teach in my state again, believe me!! Nebraska's public school system, and it's community college are a JOKE if you have any type of disability or learning disorder!!!!

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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

its sickening there are "adults" out there who still think mocking or belittling children of any status is ok. these people should be removed from the gene pool. we have had enough disgusting horrid bullying from other students but when teachers do these things. its unforgivable.

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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm not surprised one bit. Sadly many groups that claim to be understanding are full of ignorant people who only want to improve their reputations. I have autism myself and was really shocked at the treatment I and other children at the time received from similar groups. Autism is simply impossible to type-cast, there's such a broad range, and even the range within a single person is not necessarily uniform nor linear.

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Antonio Fierro
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This angers me deeply, as a father of an autistic boy myself, i don't know what i would do if i found out that he was getting treated like this at his school. Poor child.

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News flash - he's probably getting treated like this regularly and also being forced to eat cat poop by his peers.

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BusLady
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Is there an acronym for "Crying my eyes out ?" (CMEO). If not, there should be.

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Ntosh
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't know how difficult or easy it is to be a teacher in the US, here in SA it very easy, compared to other careers. Some people often go into teaching as a means of making a living, with no passion for the job or love and patience for children. It is such a shame that as parents we have no choice but to send our kids to these people for their education. This makes me worry about how my children are treated at school. I have a daughter that's only a year old who goes to day care, I always worry about how she is and how the teachers are treating her. I am sorry that this mother had to hear those things they were saying to her child. I commend her for being smart enough to pick up that something was not right with her child

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devon
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Idc what country you are from, teaching is an incredibly tough job. You have to fight for the good ones and put a stop to those who are unqualified for their jobs. Less people are becoming teachers here in the US b/c salaries are awful. That's how awful people like these two teachers end up in the education world. it's truly sad.

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Geoff Masters
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I hope the God of Karma pays a visit to these two teachers as well as the Head Mistress for trying to play down the schools part in this despicable behaviour.

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BusLady
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Her a*s is on the line. She probably makes quite a bit of $ and doesn't want to lose that job.

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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Aaaand this is why my 13 yo autistic son and I are going to give home schooling a shot next yet. I am so tired of beating my head against he wall with teachers and administrators who insist on thinking they can "tough love" the autism out of him.

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Mingi Football
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why do these people (they aren't teachers) choose this profession when they don't care about the children? If the time comes when you have lost heart and no longer care to "teach" it is time to change professions.

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phil blanque
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wellll...There are many questions to be answered here. Some are financial...How much are these teachers paid, how much training do they have, and how are they vetted? Do teachers have adequate back-up support when they need to take attention away from the rest of the class to address individual student needs, which can vary quickly and require immediate intervention? What is the pay differential between administrators and teachers? In my experience high level administrators may be paid well over $120,00 a year, while teachers may be paid under $30,000...not a good recruiting strategy. Lastly, what oversight does the administration have over everyday activities in the school...it is really on them that a parent had to find a way to identify these problems. That is the administrators' job!! Someone should evaluate them...they appear to be negligent. A sad post, but an excellent mom...watchful over her child and ready to take action to protect him!

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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Heard about this on the Philip DeFranco show a couple weeks ago- disgusting behaviour from people who are supposed to be helping the kid, makes you wonder why they became teachers if that is how much care & compassion they show children, any children, let alone ones with learning difficulties.

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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Simply not knowing any better, I can forgive, but not trying to improve ones' understanding when it's a job you took on... I see that in my opinion as wrong.

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Shana
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If you can't handle working with special needs kids or any kids for that matter, get a different job? If you thought you could but it stresses you out too much, quit and get something else. Kids, with or without special needs, shouldn't be treated like this by the people that are supposed to teach them and help them grow.(shouldn't be treated like that by anyone actually.)

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Biana Weatherford
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'd like to give props to those that can do this job. There is something spectacular about people who can stay calm and encouraging in tough situations that exist in special needs classrooms. Yes that child might be frustrating but it's not his fault and taking your anger out on him solves nothing. So thank you....all you teachers and care givers that do this job without the recognition that you deserve!

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I Love My Dog
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Unfortunately there are many teachers out there like that. They only want the job for the long holidays. Even with non special needs kids they're don't care they just put the ones that struggle at the back of the class and just focus on the brighter kids. It's just so wrong and sad. Every child is special and every child no matter what their learning abilities should have the chance to shine and have all their needs met and addressed.

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ALIYAH ALLEN
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

i had friends that used to make fun of mentally disabled children. i at least thought teachers would have enough sense to educate instead of criticize.

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Suzanne Haigh
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What I do not understand is that they were employed by a school for children with special needs, why could they cope with them? In the UK you have to special training for a special school, beside you teaching degrees, is it not the same in America

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Kimberly gibbler
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I know a lot of people who think that autistic people are annoying loud and weird but they are very smart and creative in deed and anyone who disagrees needs to be educated especially someone who was supposed to be anyway

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Efraín Suárez-Arce
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Mom is really gonna need that attorney in order to explain how and why she set up her 12 year old autistic son with a wire and sent him to school to record PRIVATE CONVERSATIONS BETWEEN ADULTS illegally. She got two teachers fired over these illegal recordings. I see “lawsuit” written all over this.

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Efraín Suárez-Arce
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

On April 27th, 2018 D.G. Sciortino from Shareably came up with an article that is so biased it borders on the absurd. “Teachers Bully Boy With Autism And Mom Catches Them On Tape” might as well have been written by Milissa Davis, the mom in charge of this set up. Right off the bat, once you’ve identified a handicapped student by name and start publishing his photograph, you’ve already violated C**A, GINA, FERPA and HIPPA. So obviously the welfare of this child is not Sciortino’s first concern. “Nonprofit school” is just an elegant way to say “Charter School.” One day Milissa Davis decided to hide a recording device in her son’s backpack, record adults without their knowledge or consent and then post these recordings online in violation of C**A, FERPA, HIPPA, federal wiretapping laws, cyberstalking laws and probably a few other laws I can’t remember. THEN she took her son out of the school and got a lawyer. Hope Academy’s principal Linda Stone put out a written statement. “On March 23

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Efraín Suárez-Arce
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

On April 27th, 2018 D.G. Sciortino from Shareably came up with an article that is so biased it borders on the absurd. “Teachers Bully Boy With Autism And Mom Catches Them On Tape” might as well have been written by Milissa Davis, the mom in charge of this set up. Right off the bat, once you’ve identified a handicapped student by name and start publishing his photograph, you’ve already violated C**A, GINA, FERPA and HIPPA. So obviously the welfare of this child is not Sciortino’s first concern. “Nonprofit school” is just an elegant way to say “Charter School.” One day Milissa Davis decided to hide a recording device in her son’s backpack, record adults without their knowledge or consent and then post these recordings online in violation of C**A, FERPA, HIPPA, federal wiretapping laws, cyberstalking laws and probably a few other laws I can’t remember. THEN she took her son out of the school and got a lawyer.

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Gerry Higgins
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You get what you pay for. Private schools typically have very low pay scale for teachers. The good ones go on to high paying positions and you're left with the rejects.

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John Anderson
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sometimes there are people who need a baseball bat to the teeth......These teachers need that lesson.

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Ruth Beaty
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The sad thing is this happens with children who don't have special needs too. I stood outside the classroom of my oldest son several times and heard nothing but rants against the superintendent of schools. I finally had to pull my kids out of school and homeschool them.

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Luke Oakridge
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

While those teachers were wrong to say what they did, I do have sympathy for teachers who work in difficult environments. I have substituted before and I can tell you that many kids refuse to behave and will disrupt the classroom. It can be very frustrating when there is limited punishment options available for substitutes to use on disruptive students. Even special needs students will sometimes do less than they are capable of doing and can be disruptive. It is important to know what a student's capabilities are, but I believe that we should hold students to them rather than letting them get away with avoiding work and disrupting the classroom.

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Eddie77
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Camden was being bullied. Not by classmates or children on the playground, but by specially trained teachers who were supposed to support him. This should not happen in schools of this type... I congratulate Camden's mother for her good idea to put a recording device

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KT Trondsen
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I remember seeing this on the news not long ago. Absolutely broke my heart. I'm so glad the mom was that clever to do a recording. Such horrible teachers, I hope they never get to teach again!

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SexyEggPlant
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't hate the teachers and honestly what I heard wasn't horrible and to be fair being a teacher at a special needs school is frustrating like really frustrating and if one of the students isn't doing what they are supposed to which is what it sounded like it can be more frustrating and it seems like they were taking their frustration on him and since people with special needs can be different it can be hard to connect with them but since they should've been aware of what they were getting into and I do agree that what they said wasn't ok but I can't hate them for doing what they did also I feel like if you are going to be a special needs teacher then they should have special training and requirements if they don't already.

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SexyEggPlant
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Update: the one with the cussing was awful tho and they have no right or excuse to say that

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Christina S.
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

personally I could never do this job because it truly takes a special person to work with special needs people/children. However, if you're going to sign up for such a trying job you should know what you're getting yourself into. You can't expect to walk in and treat children who suffer like animals, how will they ever get better? It's disgusting things like this happen and I applaud the mom for taking action to protect her son. I wish him well on his journey.

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Rhon
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

These teachers were only in the job because they were too immature to grow up and leave school! Shame on them and anyone else who treats a child like this!

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A Little Light Arson
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I do love this story! Although I couldn't help think of Danganronpa when I saw the name of the school...

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Helyn Hughes
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It is illegal in New Zealand to record someone without their knowledge. But what a revelation! And with a son who cannot communicate I fully understand it. However she should have given the school the opportunity to address it first. They may not have done anything, and she could still go public, but it was the right thing to have done. There are no doubt good people there too.

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David Gridley
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Years ago, I was offered a job as a teacher's aide working with special needs students and I turned it down. I knew I didn't have the patience.

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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Seems like everyone is a douchebag here. The mom not wanting to talk to the principle and instead going to the internet is just awful, as is going public with people's private coversations. The teachers that said stuff right to the kid need a smack, but so does this mom. People say all kinds of stuff privately between friends. EVERYONE does it. Every single person says things privately they would not say publicly, or at the very least they think things they wouldn't say publicly. Everyone. Maybe the mom was just at wits end so I get it, but she still chose poorly.

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Helyn Hughes
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sometimes teachers let off steam like this. Don’t for one minute think that working with autistic kids is easy. Its really hard, but that said their behaviour was fireable, no question. They are not suited to the job. People that are, are like gold. Its not everyone’s cup of tea.

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Mimikyu
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't normally pity people, but damn, those teachers got what she deserved

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Maria K
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Oh my god.. I can't believe someone, yet alone a teacher, would say that! :(

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Alessandra Ricotta
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ooopps, my cat fault :D Anyway, my mum never have the will to take care for me enough to do the same thing, which has continued for all high schools. I could have fired entire institutions. (sorry for bad english)

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peril-clay
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That's awful. I can't believe anyone would do that. What would they be thinking, anyway???? I'm glad his mom realized something was happening and did something about it. I hope he is okay.

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Shujaat Khan
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is not enough to fire them but also certified them not fit for the job in future in same capacity , as they need psychological treatment themselves and they can not be care taker or teacher of wonderful kids. I am very upset with this incident full marks to mother of wonderful kid and even the board of the school should also be fined due to not able to understand the parents complain and there should be some training to them also.

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Liz Karsa
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am not even a parent so I don't have that protective "mama bear" point of view but I am a human being and these "teachers" are VILE. I am sorry that this child had to be traumatized in such a way. VILE.

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Aunt Messy
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's hilarious that the administration claims that the teachers were talking amongst themselves with no kids present...how did that "conversation" come into existence, then? ... They'll close ranks and pretend the recordings are a lie and try to pretend that since the child is already disabled, no one can "prove" what happened.

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Random Panda
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

To be fair, it's possible the conversation happened during recess and the backpack was left in the room while the kids were outside (I don't know how it is in America, but in my country it's pretty common to leave your backpack in the classroom during recess). However I agree it's more likely they're lying.

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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Heartbreaking. I hope parents pull their children and that nasty mess closes.

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Nate Haggers
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Snitches get stitches. That little boy better watch his back.

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